how do i make my art more appealing in general?(don't mind the unfinished sketch)
>>7939444Add tits. Doesn't matter what you're drawing. Slap a pair of tits on it.
anon's right
>>7939444copy appealing art until it rubs off on you
Draw this pose.
Apologies for what I'm about to inflict on your eyes, anons.
>>7935077trying is half the battle. better than not drawing at all
Let's get the image count to one hundred, guys!
Im too brainlet for the perspective of the upper torso for this one
>>7939407the struggle will strengthen your brain. try tracing it first.
Is making a living as a comic artist a no go in the states?
>>7937555anyone committed to drawing superhero slop and blizzard slop in current year is probably unpleasant and a little pathetic irl. it doesnt even make as much money as simpler forms and rendering so they are usually just manchildren who never bothered to learn different styles, probably really hard to work with.
>>7938534Oh its possible. This guy is doing it,and has been for over a dozen years.
>>7937555who posted this, their online personality and how they interact with the audience matters and should be revealed.
>>7938853You read that and thought I was saying it was impossible? I said it was like winning the lottery. Pointing to a lottery winner and saying "look! he did it!" does not challenge my point.
>>7938853anyone who started in the 2000s was doing it on easy mode. It basically doesn't count. We're talking about 2026, basically a different universe especially post covid.
Is there a good alternative to INPRNT? Just learned they only give you 30% of the sale, which is not much. Where should you sell prints these days without having to deal with the logistics yourself?
>>7938515do you live in US or Canada?if so print your shit (or using a printing service) and post it on etsy/shopify is the easiest. Otherwise, you are stuck with print-on-demand services like Printify or Gelato.heavily recommend buying a printer or print service it saves a lot in the long term
>>7938546is dealing with all the shipping shit really worth it>>7938515wasnt inprint 50% or was that a different site
>>7938789If you don't want to do it yourself then you have to accept getting ripped off by the people you make do it instead
>>7938789yes Packaging is the only real hassle (get 100% easier after you buy all the supplies and can print sticker labels at home). Etsy simplifies the rest. If USPS (rarely) or you fuck up the label, just send another one.
>>7939318>fuck up the labelI mean, just in general fuck up. The label is auto-generated and paid automatically, so it is easy.
How can I tell these stupid kids that they are talentess ngmi permaprebegs in spite of their efforts and practice, and no matter what they do that won't lead them anywhere, and that everything is about genetics that they don't have( without ruffling the feathers of their parents and risking my ass in prison)
>>7939285I had a nerdy little retard as a teacher that most likely felt this way and that nigga indirectly became a catalyst for my improvement out of my sheer disdain so might as well keep doing whatever you're doing now. Who knows it might help someone
You should explain to your students that you couldn't do so you teach. I could be far more mean to you in my post but you're a teacher and likely already on the brink of following in Van Gogh's footsteps.
every public school art teacher is fucking god awful. THOSE WHO CANT DO TEACH FRFR
>>7939285bro did you even try teaching them anything lol
>>7939285kids age 3 to 18 - they can still learn drawing skills"kids" age 30 to 43 - If they are still bogged down by drawabox, ngmi
those who do graffiti - how the fuck is Sofles pulling this off? I know it's layering, shading and flaring a lot, but holy shit, this dude is just next level, and I'm next level jealous
>>7939173Repetition and experimentation.
>>7939173you won't like the answer
>>7939173I wouldn't do illegal things
Do you think art based on beauty has been superceded? Because everything has been done before for a long time to a great degree of perfection. Same way how making classical music is useless due to Bach existing. Another argument is that AI renders art=beauty useless since it can produce great art already (or will be able to). If you ask contemporary artists they will say that it's too simple and has no message. Can it even compete with contemporary art? As much as one can shit on contemporary art, there's a reason why figurative art is dead, and we can't just blame the jews or cultural degradation (although the latter maybe). Can figurative art bring something new and majestic to the table, or will it just be lifelessly repeating history? Does it even need to do something new or is that just appealing to the masses (i.e if you were christian you wouldn't wait for christianity 2.0 because it's innovative, but I suppose art is supposed to be creative, hence why you could look down on tradition to some extent.)
>>7938935> Do you think art based on beauty has been supersededno>cultural degradationthat's the core issue. this is how all civilizations evolve, they eventually die out, conquered and, or, by rotting. because we're for the most part of a "global" civilization, it's unlikely we get conquered.hence we "just" have to wait for something to grow from the rot, simple as.look, beauty requires contemplation, time and space to be appreciated. who has the time for such a thing today? until society slows down greatly, appreciation of beauty will hardly rise
I believe it changed forms and is now spread to the masses through other means like comics and videogames.Take capeshit for example, it shows larger than life people with a perfect physique doing heroic stuff and preaching morals the common man should aspire to, they even draw them according to heroic proportions : Superman is generally 10 heads tall by 4 heads wide, for example, the guy is built like a statue of Hercules.Now maybe you'll tell me it's all been subverted by the Jews to promote communism and racemixing, sure, but it's still the closest we have to those old paintings and statues.
Beauty and ugliness both have a place in art but apparently that's a hot take that will get me called a communist and a jew
>>7938935>Because everything has been done before for a long time to a great degree of perfectionanother nodraw cope
Also a potential master study thread
>>7938362almost looks digital wew
I feel like posting art from 1880+ doesn't really count because it's quite literally modern.
>>7938702still all over the place in alaska, canada, and siberia.
>>7938785genuinely gorgeous
Excellent threadWould you consider Klimt modern?
Previous thread: >>7786013What is /ALT/?If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title.>Rules & Guidelines(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly, keep discussion at a civil level.>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.------>Community Resources>Tag the OP if you want a resource included here.
>>7938551
>>7938671blog?
>>7938917>>7938551Blog?
feeling good about this one
It’s time to draw within the shapes. What can you turn the shapes into without altering the shapes themselves?
>>7937609I like the armor/shield and trireme a lot
i really couldn't think of anything for the blue one
>>7933943i like the orange one
>>7938975I can see two good reasons to like that one.
Thread to study the adult male body. Post your art, discuss artists, and post resources related to the subject of cute guys and handsome men.Some resources:>English Youtube channel with tutorials about ikemen/anime boys:https://www.youtube.com/user/SirKite92/videoshttps://www.youtube.com/c/Dospordos/videosRules:>Do not take the bait or derail. Don't be a sperg.>Don't fight about different male body types, ikemen/twink/bara. Nobody cares.>No femboy/trans/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that.>No shota. Go to /lsg/ for that.>No tits, no coochies, no female body ratio.>Females are welcome so long as the image remains male-focused.>Don't sperg if a feminine male (not femboy) is posted, ignore if it's not your cup of tea, keep in mind the nature of stylization and simplification in anime and cartoon art styles before you choose to derail the thread, though crit is welcome like always.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7934528You can post shota in lsg and gag
>>7934539Not OP, but I don't think the anons that were dedicated enough to keep the general going want to continue to tardwrangle a thread with troublemakers who keep trying to skirt rules and throw their slop itt. You can tell the rules to a pedofag a million times, but they will not listen out of spite/jealousy/whatever else have you.
>>7934542No that's what I'm saying since these threads are gonna archive to migrate to the new active ones
Bump
Its dead jim.
I just wanna ask because, it seems like there's no hope getting a professional job as an animator anymore.I went into art school before AI was shoved everywhere and there was all this doom, so I genuinely believed that if I just graduated and made a nice reel I could get a job, but now I'm still a student and realizing that just won't work out anymore.So what do I do? I'm not dropping out of school because I'm still passionate about the arts. I hear people say indie is the future blah blah blah but there's like only one indie studio actually paying people and all the seasoned professionals end up working there. I've volunteered for multiple projects, I'm honestly tired of it, not the work itself but joining crappy projects where no one communicates at all or nothing's run professionally because it's not a real studio. I have no connections or art friends, so I'm lost.I just want to get my start somewhere, that's all really, I thought the numerous volunteer projects I did the last couple years would help me do that but they didn't. I've honed my skills, but I'm still a nobody, and I just don't know what to change to fix this.Please help me /ic/
Maybe if you didn't get confused by basic human conversation you wouldn't have to worry about your "cortisol levels". You sound a lot like you didn't eat breakfast this morning.
>>7938602I'm not confused, troll.
>OP asks question>gets answer to question within a few posts>arguefaggot has to come in and pretend (I hope) to fail to follow the conversation just to argue about somethingOh 4chan.
riding this thread to ask: how do indie animation studios like glitch start?
>>7938577>wants X>effort to get X too hard. Me doomed!
Hi anons i hope you all doing well btw here's a silent comic I've did in 6 days to challenge myself feel free to criticize so i can improve thank you page 1
>>7858687In my version she'd be fucked by the wrestler guy full nelson style and marry him
>>7927415Why you people ruin everything wholesomeI hope OP don't see your disgusting, revolting, abomination of a reply Shame on you anon, shame on you
>>7931424He made it better
Why does this thread keep getting bumped? It's long since served it's purpose, and I doubt OP is even here still.
>>7936035Maybe they're waiting for the OP to return maybe
how do you draw as good as animators?
>>7934948can you?
>>7932225aren't they just masters of tracing and that's how they are able to draw such clean lines?
>>7934965i dont draw
>>7935015wip
>>7932226
Brother if I wanted to do this with my phone I'll be all day trying to get the perfect hand reference, this is straight up unfair
>>7928575reminds me of the end of flcl
>>7932681>it's retards thinking they absolutely NEED that new shiny toy that solves all their problems for themEvery month it seems I have to talk my sister out of blowing quadruple-digit dollars on some fancy toy she says will help her finally kickstart her YouTube career, and every time I have to take her to one side and tell her the problem isn't that she doesn't have the gear -- she has alot of gear, the problem is that she isn't fucking doing it in the first place and buying "the new thing™" isn't going to magically give her the discipline to start.
>>7932644You can use your phone as virtual cam nowadays
>>7932644how does that even make sense, desktops are third world option because you can scrounge the parts instead of having to buy a new screen, keyboard, case, psu etc every time
>>7928575its like playing chess, but you have AI playing both sides.it defeats the purpose of the game.its intelectual and artistic cuckoldry, with the AI "artist" being the cuckold.
