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This thread is designed to be a space for women, by women. Fujos, Yumejos, and OC stacies welcome.
If you are not a XX chromosome woman, do not post in this thread. Not looking for male opinions, male art, etc.


Rules:
>the males must be attractive
>women must be drawn with the female-gaze in mind.
>No femboy/trans/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that.
>If you want female advice on "how do I draw x" then go to /beg/. Nobody gives a fuck.
>No male yurifags, no faceless dudes, no femboy, no shota/ loli, no futa, no derailing thread. Nothing created to appeal to the male gaze. Thank you.
>If it does not serve women, it does not belong here.
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>>7781053
That's a girl anon
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crossposting

>>7780988
John fun facts:
>he got hella gaslit by his dickweed coworker into taking the serum that gave him his powers
>the only sense of his that didn't get enhanced was his hearing
>he can do that lizard tongue thing and process smells via a vomeronasal organ, otherwise known as the Jacobson's gland
>>7780747
Cute cute CUTE!!!
>>7780736
>another jawn
Yes, YES. They shall multiply and take over!!!
>>7780720
I am in love with the earthy tones you used here and also really love her lore!!! Hope to see her hubby too!!!
>>7780365

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>>7781451
Most people I show say the winged hussar is their least favorite, glad to know some people still have taste
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>>7780720
Used your OC for my pre-Raphaelite studies
>>7781640
Truly, the masses lack taste... the winged hussar is the patrician's choice!
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>>7780720
Fixed the shoulders cause they looked like they were scrunching up

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1: Post a brief backstory if your OC has one.

2: Character design critique and discussion is welcome.

3: Keep it fairly SFW. Lewds are fine but no explicit porn.

4: This is NOT a request thread. Artist Only. No spamming OC/infodumps for multiple threads without delivering.

5: Be sure to thank Drawfrens for their hard work as soon as you can, it's just common courtesy :^)

Previous Thread: >>7698981
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>>7777064
Ok I'll draw her soon later this week
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>>7780786
hurray
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>>7749151
got a wip
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>>7781341
oooo looking really great so far!
I cant wait to see it done.
I like the pose you choose as well.
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>>7737546
rabbit

I realized something painfully obvious, but didnt really click until now.

I return to basics every now and again for one reason or another, but on this go, i realized something about tutorials like these and why theyre so useful. Maybe i always knew, but forgot.

Drawing on your right side of the brain, It can be a leap for a begginner, because youre abandoning shapes you know for abstract shapes. Shapes youre not to name. It can be a hard concept to wrap your head around.

So, instead of teaching loomis, anatomy, etc, right off the bat, these tutorials are a great way to build confidence because theyre so simple. You can get a decent drawing with those basic shapes the left brain already uses.

So, i think instead of bludgeoning a newbie with loomis studies, start out with these simple drawings for simple characters, to build confidence. Then, try something a little more complex.
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>ITT: Draw the rest of the fucking owl.
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>>7777723
These still kinda work even if you do completely fuck up the proportions
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>>7776838
>So, instead of teaching loomis
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>>7781627
>howtodrawforkids.com
Thanks anon
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>>7776838
Absolutely. I feel pretty much anyone who started drawing as a kid got their hands on a magazine or similar with guides like this.
Even if not, when you decide to branch out from doodling by your imagination, these are one of the first things you'll come across when researching how to draw. Not everyone decides to start drawing in their late 20s and immediately seeks full fledged courses. Of course I'm old now so it might be more likely the first resource a kid comes across might be a yt short of a /ic/ tier autist shouting about fundies so what do I know. Seems like a good way to get stuck in tutorial hell without getting a taste of the real fun of drawing.
You are very right about the confidence too. Being able to see a recognisable image come to life by your own hand is huge. It gives you a peek through the door of potential.

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Guys... I really need your help. I wanna learn to draw in semi-realistic anime style. I have been trying to teach myself for the past 1 year. I tried the coloso chyan, mogoon, ritotuna courses.. but they didn't really help. I can't draw shit now. I wanna master this skill. And i am ready to put in the one.. Please suggest what i should do. Any resources i should refer to anything.
Thanks for reading this. Hope you have a good day:)
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>>7777582
>>7777589
>"you have to be pro-tier from the prebeg stage"
grim
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>>7778621
More like
>I want to draw like one of the most skilled artists who worked for 20 years in the industry!
>have you tried learning the basics first?
>NOOOOO I DONT WANNA REEEEEEE WHY IS EVERYONE SO MEAN TO MEEEER
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>>7777570
FUNDIES
FUNDIES
FUNDIES
FUNDIES
FUNDIES
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>>7777542
Yoneyama Mai has been drawing for two decades now, has been drawing for various studios, has been drawing for 14 hours a day for years and is one of the most prominent modern japanese artists.
And you come here, saying you've "tried to teach yourself for the past 1 year?"
Come back in 19 years.
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>>7777604
If you are going to draw so much about it instead of drawing go use AI already and stop being a bother

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I feel like I’m getting the hang of gesture, but I still don’t fully understand the energy in poses
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>>7776973
I always mess up proportions. I was wondering if i should get hampton's course on gesture
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Im no pro, but I think you're doing fine. IMO Gesture is just loose notation that helps you capture your idea of how the pose functions to hold the body up in a particular pose. So the problem isnt really about improving the gesture by understanding the energy, its about how gesture is used to inform your actual drawing of the figure.

Try to develop your understanding of proportion, form and anatomy alongside your gestures. Your proportions here are pretty good, though i'm unsure if it's just coming from observation or being supported by knowledge too (relative head size for instance).

It helps to see poses in real life, or better yet, to do them yourself, if you really want to capture the "energy" in a pose with more detail. You could also use a doll or sculpt some clay on a wire armature (the armature being the gesture). You then understand what it takes to hold the pose up and where on the body the strain is felt to hold it. Your gestures will be more informed then and you'll feel that energy more.

Energetic gesture often requires exaggeration, and its difficult to do that well if you don't have some sense of how the body holds itself up against gravity and how the anatomy can be pushed to its limit.

Carry on though, doing good
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>>7777285
a real teacher wouldve charged op 100$ for a critique this good. and they say this board is bad...
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vilppu is way better at teaching gesture than hampton

that is if ur a beginner
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>>7777285
Not only very high effort critique but an insanely good rundown of what one is actually going for when gesture drawing.

For stupid questions and questions that don't deserve their own thread.
Post here if you don't expect your thread to reach 100+ replies.
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what happend with BRUSH CSP thread?
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is it bad that i'm not bothered to draw without a reference anymore? i hope to be able to draw from imagination someday, but whenever i do, it looks so bad and takes so much longer. so i just don't
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>>7779607
it's normal if you're self-aware: most things drawn 'from imagination' are remixes of stuff you've seen in the past, through the filter of a lossy memory
instead of relying on that, you just look things up and imbue imaginative work with real details / information
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>>7750465
I remember some Anons used to shill a beginner's guide made by comic artist David Finch as a "good place to start for beginner artist" here.
Is that still true? I'm getting an itch to learn how to draw again recently.
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Has someone tried Leonardo? Do you think it's worth the 40 bucks at its current state? The infinite canvas seems like a cool feature.

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I just tried drawing from imagination for the first time.
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>>7778429
>Man is walking down the street
>Ex-wife stops at the intersection, unaware of his presence
>Man sees his child in the backseat
>The divorce took everything from him
>His own spawn so close yet so far away
>Ex-wife and child drive away, leaving man to contemplate his existence
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>>7777296
I can draw f16s from imagination
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>>7777296
“Imagination” is just free recall memory
Look up benjamin keep on YouTube and then apply those lessons to drawing and you’ll improve
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>>7778429
I… kneel…
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>>7777296
Brave.

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shit so ugly it looks like a.i. generated.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DQWeWFmjDJG/?img_index=1
https://www.instagram.com/p/DH6QICfyDno/?img_index=1

it turns out it wasn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-xeKn4hfSA

thoughts on this one?
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I think this thread was AI generated.
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>>7781487
your mom generated A boner for I
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>>7781494
You got pegged by my mom? That doesn't sound like something to brag about.
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>>7781487
another clanker thread

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Do you think the reason no one is making great paintings like this anymore is because it takes too long to make or because they don't have the talent/skills ?
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>>7779884
>(This is you admitting that the Greeks dealt in what are essentially glorified, if visually-pleasing, cartoons.)

This is you outing yourself as a midwit chinaman.

>Also, the Greeks and Romans mostly worked in sculpture

How do you think masters like Praxiteles, Lysippos, and Polykleitos perfected their highly advanced proportions?

Advanced perspective is only a small portion of what makes classical painters elite. They were master drafstmen first, the likes of which your favorite mangooka artist will never hold a candle to. The amount of nuance in the line quality alone is magnitudes above the greatest jap artist alive or dead. You should heed the advice of >>7779901

>>7779974
>your insight is mostly a flawed interpretation of ancient philosophy, and a gross misunderstanding about the practicalities of patronage and means my favorite shotacon artists are just like michelangelo!!!

>>7780003

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>>7780048
>"my favorite shotacon artists are just like michelangelo!!!"
>if i assume his tastes and i strawman him into a pedophile, my point will have buoyancy!
not beating the "inane bullshit" allegations
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>>7780048
>advanced perspective

This is you outing yourself as a nodraw cunt. Perspective isn’t rocket science my guy. It’s certainly not any mark of mastery. It’s a basic bitch fundie. Just because it cripples (you) and 80% of /ic/ doesn’t mean it’s actually complicated or hard.
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No one is trained to make these things technically speaking or see history painting as the highest possible achievement in painting.
in this case the subject is a national legend and it wouldnt really have any meaning in the current gay democratic societies because people dont really know the legend anymore and dont feel the need to assert themselves as a newborn nation with an old history.
In the case of Roman and Greek stories that also used to be popular subjects they seem to have been relegated to popular culture nowadays and there is no elite reading Homer/Ovid/Livy/Virgil etc. So if an artist decides to paint these subjects its not because there is a current cultural demand for it but simply because the guys of the past did it or because of the artists own personal obsession.
Aside from that many artists prefer to paint things they can observe themselves, such as daily life of peasants or whatever, instead of making up a composition for an epic legend. Of course the wrecking ball of modernism fucked everything up, especially after ww1.
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>>7781445
>roman and greek
>gay democratic societies

Japanese art from 1750
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>>7777586
two butts
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>>7777584
>>7777586
>>7777587
>>7777587
>>7777592
Average permabeg
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>>7777592
The primitive x-ray, the yellow pervs
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>>7777637
tis cavernous
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>>7777584
Ugly bastards are timeless

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How can I make this Francis Bacon basedjack look more abstract in MS Paint? The paint bucket is too solid
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>>7777675
Ok i just discovered the other brushes
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>>7777675
use different colors for shading and different brushes like you said

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How do i make my linework not...

Not whatever i am doing, i don't like how it ends up
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>>7780612
clean it up for one, it's pretty messy
study lineart from artists you like to see how they tackle the same problems. depends on the style you are going for.
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>>7780617
I think its kinda indecision what causes this. Like a lot of times the legs and the outfits and the expressions i didn't really decide exactly where they were or what they were, so i kept erasing and redrawing and erasing and thickening the lines to make it less obvious
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>>7780635
Do a sketch first, do another sketch to clean it up if you're not happy with it, if there are more ideas that pop up do another pass, do it as many times as needed, it can be messy at the start and then you tidy up as you go, but don't use your lineart to figure all this out at once, it will only make things harder on you and likely cause a lot of inconsistencies with your lines, also when using lines is good to think about it on hierarchy terms, what's the most important thing on your drawing? You can simply apply a big to small logic, and maintain it throughout the entire drawing, your hatching is looking too big and it isn't helping in describing the form of your characters or planes of objects.
Also this is a very busy piece, be patient with it, there's no reason to think you'll get it done anytime soon, I'd forget about that and think about how to go about each step, thinking about the composition, the sketch, cleaning up the idea with convincing perspective and proportions of the characters, thinking about the objects themselves and a general idea of the lighting, applying some texturing without overdoing it, big to small, simplify where it's needed. There are many criteria that you can apply in your drawing, while scanning everything on each step and making sure you've accounted for all elements in the image. If you need an idea of how to go about it just see how other artists solve these problems, inking in general is a cool medium when it comes to design, you can technically break some of the rules as long as your piece is cohesive, try playing with screentones or using various cross hatching techniques for either creating values or patterns.
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>>7780655
I think it was rushed, i didn't stop to think where the light comes from. Ive managed to make things like these more clear

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What should I focus on now if I want to draw cartoons like this? I’ve tried courses like Drawabox, and they’ve helped me improve my line confidence, but that’s about it
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>>7773939
Study anatomy
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>>7773939
draw cartoons. keep asking yourself why something does or doesn't work (either when you're drawing or analyzing someone's work). don't slack off on fundamentals. understand shape language and what makes appealing shapes
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Isnt drawabox about perspective?
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you draw what you like
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Exaggerate everything! Make parts bigger or smaller! Everything! Shape language is something that can definitely help you with cartoonish styles :)

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general critiques for my artwork to make it look more pro?

https://imgur.com/a/cRNzjJm
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>>7780836
work on consistency, readability(silhouette), and shape hierarchy. Kyle Ferrin came to mind as someone you might want to study for pro work in this whimsical style.
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>>7780836
Work on shape/silhouette design, play around with different edge thicknesses and add more contrast in your tones (like in picrel, I think its the best, even if its an extreme example)
It's cute but too much pastel tones kinda blend together and leave nothing for the viewer to hold on
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Draw less abstract blobs and try doing some actual anatomy and perspective.
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>>7780836
Do some still lifes and learn how to make objects look more 3D.
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>>7780836
Cute stuff. I like it as it is. Though those last ones without contours don't look as good as the others.

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Why do people like this perma/beg/?
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>>7778588
Because he killed Hitler
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>>7778588
in honor of the double; if you train your art skills like you would a muscle, you will permanently be bad, because art is not a muscle, it's a process of figuring out what works, breaking through bottlenecks, not chasing the burn.
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And then people are surprised why this /beg/ got rejected from art school


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