>get off from work (corpocuck job)>too tired to drawi thought it was just a meme but now i understand, this is awful
>>7158646I used to work 2-11pmId draw on my lunch break and after work.Took about a year for my Patreon to beat my work paycheck
>>7158646caffeine helps but careful not to lose too much sleep
>>7158646Exert all that effort to being stellar in your own field (your current job) and work towards having your own empire. Drawing is only a hindrance to you at this point. If you loved it enough you won't put it aside as a hobby. Just choose another hobby that's relaxing and fun. Forget abt art.
>>7158918>caffeine helps but careful not to lose too much sleepcaffeine is a trash drug for me. only good when I've had some decent sleep. if I'm tired and drink coffee I just feel like shit.
>>7158646definitely not a memeyou have 2-3 hours a day of real(tm) concentration juice and you blow most of it out at work
Previous thread: >>7066089What is /ALT/?If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title.>Rules & Guidelines(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly, keep discussion at a civil level.>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.------>Community Resources>Tag the OP if you want a resource included here.
>>7157959>>7157961Well as derided and overly exaggerated as it is now, at one point I appreciated the shape language of that style and at times it can still be fun. Thankfully I’ve got more ability than JUST that style, since I’m getting the impression that it’s not your respective cups of tea
>>7153459Thoughts? It's a redesign.
>>7155498Not really a copy of anything, but I did have TaffyToad's art somewhat in mind when drawing>>7156291>>7156302These are sick, that textured brush looks so cool. I humbly ask for a blog...>>7157730I think this low-contrast color palette is actually really pretty. But the other anon is right, it would probably have more depth with harsher highlights/shadows
>>7158796much more appealing, i think
Am I the only one who worst fear is not drawing "badly" but that his style is not recognizable?, like yeah someone can have bad anatomy but you can always say "o that guy did it">>7153454>>7153627>>7156302>>7157475>>7158771i like this ones, good job
Has anyone bought these Titan 13 figures? are they worth buying?the titan13toy website charges about $21 for them, i know there's worse quality ones for cheaper, but i just want to know if you guys think these are worth their cost especially for posing and reference use obviously.i know you could use stuff like 3d models in CSP but that's a whole new program to learn just to position it and then you have to draw it. I would prefer using something like this that i can move freely.I am wondering if it's worth it because i do spend a big amount of time looking up references for use in pictures. The issue is, the more i think about it, the more i realize i'm looking up references not for how the body moves in terms of joints, but moreso for how boobs or a butt would act in a given pose.
First off, there's a defacto standard:1/12 bjd doll (Ball Joint Dolls), come in various """tastes""" and they're basically a better barbie or ken doll when you want realistic proportions.They also make them with anime proportions and you can get them seamless if you pay up.So unless you want to draw a robot there's no point in buying something some fag on the internet 3D printed.CSP 3D models are used for tracing and sometimes not even that. It's how 99% of slop posted on /d/ is created. The EX version can basically render you figure and all you have to do is add detail not present in the model or the environment. It's one step removed from using AI in terms of pumping out content without skill.
>>7157690Forget to add 1/6 bjd are more of a standard and the scale action figures and barbies have.There are also ones that have more joints so most poses are possible.
>>7156969What's the point of this? Why is is better than a $1 wooden puppet?
>>7156969You should try this thing called drawing from imagination, it costs 0 dollarinos.
>>7156969I have one of these and it's fine.Holds poses well and comes with a zillion tiny accessories. Make sure you get one with a stand included, though.Makes it easier to photograph.>>7157690I'm planning to get a few of these too, in a bit. They have a lot of those on Amazon
See what you can do in a set limit of time. Pic related don in about an hour and a half.What can you do in between 1 and 2 hours? Post results here!Get to drawin!
>>7157579Youre too kind, friend. I appreciate it! I'll do my best not to burn out. Right now, for several years really, ive been suffering the opposite of burn out. Like I want to draw, but i just cant get the lead out and just do it. So these have felt so relieving! But thanks for the warning, I'll keep on top of it!
Back again, friends. And might I say, i have not had this much fun drawing in YEARS! How long I have wasted by simply NOT drawing?! I feel like a bit of my old self again! Back when I loved art and drawing. Anyway, this one, if i may be honest, i did not keep track of the time. I would say maybe an hour and a half. But i had so much fun feeling the form, and hatching in the textures and everything! It is not finished, but I am so glad i started! And yes this is the coomer meme. I always wanted to make a short comic with him, virgin, and chad duking it out in the most action packed way possible. I feel like that may be sooner that just a dream now. Good night /ic/!
Little over 1.5 hours.>>7157581Thanks, but no, that's me in the past. Drawing that way always fills me with the dread of it being a fluke afterwards.>>7157753Nice
Hey guys, just so you know - Windows has this nice little built in timer that you can find by just typing "timer" into the Start menu. It hovers on top of windows as well
Back again with another sketch. My quickest yet, at only 20 minutes. I unfortunately i didnt make much time, but i didnt want to leave the day without having drawn at all. >>7158474Thank you friend, wonderfuly work yourself. I see that you like drawing that elven child, is she part of a project you are working on?>>7158757I feel like i should have known this already. Thank you for your recommendation, friend!
How do you go about shading a line artwork?
Reminder to report, sage and hide schizo thrads.
I got a positive response so here's the first thread for studying Figure Drawing for All It's Worth by Andrew Loomis. Here's a basic schedule for the first chapter, but feel free to ignore it and work at your own pace. A schedule for the rest of the book will be discussed later.Start by reading the first 32 pages. Don't worry about copying the drawings yet. Pay attention to the basic proportions pages. When you're done, got to page 38.Pages 38-49: 2 weeks. Take your time learning the mannequin. Try drawing it in various poses. Pages 50-56: 1 weekThen spend 1 week going back and studying the pages that were skipped.Don't just copy! Try redrawing Loomis' drawings from memory after your initial copy, and take note of what you got wrong. Apply what you've learned to photo reference and try inventing figures from imagination.The book:https://files.catbox.moe/d2501d.pdfAnd here's some refs:https://files.catbox.moe/7246sw.zipGood luck!
>>7141043Not really happy with how these came out but oh well. Even on an ipad digital still feels weird. Hopefully I won't take as long with the next page.
i also did this pose from imagination and im happy with it >>7156283
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just messing around today, trying to push acitons
more experimenting, gotta stop ignoring gesture but its so fucking boring to practice
>0 Thread for people who are interested in OC discussion and sharing. DO NOT post work expecting fills or hoping to get returns.1. Art trades should be directed to the Verified Art Trade thread. 2. Critiquing designs, lore, and writing of characters and character designing are welcome. 3: Avoid off-topic discussions and DO NOT respond to bait posts.4: Be sure to thank Drawfrens for their hard work as soon as you can, it's just common courtesy :^)Previous Thread: >>7050249
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Can someone give me some pointers on how to add some character to my characters? I can draw a mannequin, I can draw a pose from imagination and then refine it with reference, I can do some basic shapes to define how the character is gonna look, but then when I want to add some detail and/or props I go completely blank.
>>7158794You can start with a color palete, or do the twitter trend thing of making something abstract into a character. You can also draw yourself badly.
>>7158794You have to actually want to create a character, when you're making a good character you aren't trying to make a 2D fuck doll or a brand avatar for your cringe pngtuber channel. You want to make someone that lives in a world and has a purpose. You don't just add detail because you think "alright time for detail", you add detail deliberately to convince the viewer that this is a living character that has a past and is rooted in a real world. You should learn the fundamentals of basic visual language, shape silhouette economy of detail etc. But the character and world you want to make should be something that interests you and comes from you.
>>7158858To add to that, form always follows function. Ask yourself what a character's purpose is and then design them accordingly. A miner wouldn't likely have a jetpack unless they were mining space rock, etc.
Is copying, and understanding, Bridgman's over and over actually valuable?I heard some artists talking about it, what do you guys think?
>>7126302Will copying bridgman help me draw hot furries?
>>7157974>>7157976He is probably the faggot that started a thread saying he got better by not drawing always, yet never posted a shit
>>7158322>>7158261>>7157976>>7157974no, because i'm not a narcissist and don't need asspats. the bridgeman hands guy is also a furry. you should be ashamed of defending him.
>>7158545shut up bitch nobody cares
>>7158545Are you what people call a crab?
Why does drawing traditionally or in a sketchbook calm me while doing so digitally fill me with stress?Anyone else have this dilemma?
>>7157172Love seeing your posts pop up in random threads. I know you've got less time to draw now due to a work/life situation, have you learned how to make it work yet?
>>7157280It's been a tough April at work. The two group leaders were out sick for over a month,and only one made it back,so I haven't drawn much from the exhaustion. I have bounced back, and this is my latest finished work, and presently I am working on something similar. I want a tshirt design,just for myself to make a prototype of,so what time I have to draw has been leaning in that direction. Anything I put to paper is a win.To me at least.
And this is the present work,a whimsical design and experiment.
>>7153509I'm the opposite, sketching on my PC feels great because I can erase quick and easy, but if I do that too much on paper it ends up being a mess. For lineart I stress the fuck out when doing it digitally for some reason.
>Bad anatomy by a artist I like >Stylaization >Bad anatomy by artists I don't like>They're a hackYou troglodytes do this with everything and I hope you all burn in hell for it.
>>7158603bad anatomy is a faggoty nitpick at some point. If the art looks good, it looks good, and the i dotters just have bad taste
>>7158603OP is a retard>>7158615>unanimously agree on anything besides the fact that youre a niggerOP is 100% a nigger
>>7158603There's an aesthetic to good and bad.
>>7158603OP must be underage to be this retarded
Why do you care at all about anatomy being unrealistic if it looks good? Are you training to get a job in medical illustration? It's literally insignificant otherwise. If it looks good, it is good. It's art, not mathematics. If you want it to look good and be realistic or accurate, then you can do that. If you want it to look good and be cartoony or unrealistic, you can do that.You guys see everything as a pissing contest, it's so sad to see people here value social hierarchy over the love of art.
Previous thread: >>7146185>Link: https://dad.gallery>Discord: You must have a DAD streak of at least 14 to join. Ask Vastian for an invite.>Found an issue with the site? Lost your streak and want to appeal? Please message the contact link at the bottom of the site instead of posting in the thread.Rules:>Draw every day (or your preferred frequency)>Submit your work by 23:59:59 GMT>Spend at least 30 minutes on each submission>No loli or shota porn>Miss a day and you'll be alright, just keep going!>Maintain your streak and you too can become the LAST ARTIST STANDING!!>Have fun!Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
The paintover challenge is rape. It's as mind fucky as someone leaving a complex comment on your submissions.Yes, some peopel like rape, but most will have a hard time dealing with it. It's no wonder it's only recived one submission, and it isn't even the creator of the challenge who submitted it.This challenge at best is only for people who know each other and are friends. No way you do this to strangers. Icky challenge to say the least.
i need rape from another dad
I love ulala's style so much
>>7159215rape is my jam. i don't care which dads jimmies I rustle
>>7158921tableguy is trash. and who tf is ray?
Thread to study the male body. Post your art, discuss artists, and post resources related to the subject of cute boys and handsome men.Some resources:>English Youtube channel with tutorials about ikemen/anime boys:https://www.youtube.com/user/SirKite92/videoshttps://www.youtube.com/c/Dospordos/videosRules:>Do not take the bait or derail. Don't be a sperg.>Don't fight about different male body types, ikemen/twink/bara. Nobody cares.>No femboy/trans/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that.>No shota. Go to /lsg/ or /ssg/ for that.>No tits, no coochies, no female body ratio.>Females are welcome so long as the image remains male focused.>Don't sperg if a feminine male (not femboy) is posted, ignore if it's not your cup of tea, keep in mind the nature of stylization and simplification in anime and cartoon art styles before you choose to derail the thread, though crit is welcome like always.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
why brush engine in procreate feels rougher than csp brush engine?
>>7154366I feel like brushes in procreate have more variety when it comes to things like weight and rotation making them more natural-looking than in CSP. Very pretty coloring btw, me likey
this nerd again
>>7155865I get some dork vibes from this guy, what a cutie
>>7155865i like the composition (overall) anon. like i feel the doodles complete it
How many anons here are actually "classically" or "fomally" trained in an academy or by a teacher who belongs to a noble lineage of art? I see so many insanely skilled painters here, who just drop their art in the draw thread and never give advice or reply to any other anons, and it makes me feel like they have access to knowledge that the rest of his don't have. The video courses, artbooks, and advice given in the various stickies of the generals here don't even seem to be able to help a day 0 beginner cross the bridge towards the high quality stuff I see those anons producing.I don't know. How important is it, in your view, to just go and subscribe to a school like Watts Atelier for 2 years and to just not come back to /ic/ until you're really skilled? For those of you who are really skilled, how did you get there?
>>7158625draw a kangaroo from imagination
>>7158625>brent evistonIs he really that good? I have an instinctive revulsion towards him because some anon kept shilling him for 2 years, but I'm open to changing my mind. If possible, could you post your work? (just a sketch is fine) What makes him so much better than other people like Loomis and Steve Huston?
>>7158551I'm not sure an "art institute" counts as formal training because it's useless and I ended up teaching myself 99.9% of the time off books.I heard similar stories from others, including people that went to art college so it's not just bad luck.Nowadays they're more interested in making money than filtering or expelling bad artists so you end up with self-taught artists as graduates.
>>7158636>What makes him so much better than other people like Loomis and Steve Huston?>NTANo way in hell he's better than Loomis or Huston (or Vilppu-sama) Don't get me wrong, he's good, really good but not that good, those 3 are literal art Gods.
>>7158636>>7158680There's a pantheon of Art Gods that teach and Vilppu is the numba one by far, not a single other artist, not even Watts can come close to our lord and savior.
why do 80% of characters face towards the left?
>>7152785He makes no snese. No matter what way a chracter is facing, you can still make the pose in a way where you'll have to draw more ")" curves.What he said makes ABSOLUTELY no sense.
>>7156627wtf is this sorcery oO
>>7152558this made me curious, so i tallied up all the characters i've drawn in the past year. (n/a = front-facing or looking away from the camera) i'm right-handed btw
>>7152558why does it matter?
>>7157721left handed and i overwhelming draw facing right. i can find 1 left facing and 4 front facing out 20 sketches sketches ive done
>0: Thread for people who are interested in trades.1: Post a brief backstory if your original character has one.2: Character design critique and discussion is welcome.3: Keep it fairly SFW. Lewds are fine but no explicit porn.4: This is NOT a request thread. Artists ONLY. No spamming original characters/infodumps without proof of prior delivery.5: Be sure to thank Drawfrens for their hard work as soon as you can, it's just common courtesy :^)6: Avoid off-topic discussions and DO NOT respond to bait posts.7: Leave all the chit-chat out unless to thank drawfrens. Draw more and talk less.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>7151282glad you liked, >>7152958 cool!
>>7121546I think Hira is kind of attractive
Old character I did but basically is one of the leaders of some fairy type characters I made. Though I'm still working on his design since he's supposed to be plant like
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