How do artists lost their SOVL?
>>8046446>troonjutsu cancer style instead of Naruto styleanon bleach was literally a contemporary to naruto, if you wanna make a comparision between styles say bleach, are you retarded
There's no such thing as sovl you stupid fucking dipshits. It's just losing your balls/braveryYoung artists and beginners are bold, they know no better. "In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few" - (Shunryu Suzuki)If you have no sovl and would like some, or you've had sovl before and have lost it, here is the cold hard truth. There is no such thing, you are just being a coward who thinks he will die or suffer if he makes a bold art decision. Grow a Pair and grow up and stop anonymously Mean Girl-ing men with more ability than you have online kthxbai.
>>8052479> Young artists and beginners are bold, they know no better.That’s not even true even a little bit?A true beginner can’t fucking draw. Nothing “bold” about a chicken scratched incorrect Loomis head
(You) are too retarded to reply to directly. I'd get faggot juice on my post.
>i have no balls to engage directly, ill just passive-aggressive like a troon :)
>tfw yo art develops What causes this? Is this the result of those western YouTube art influencers and their terrible advice?
This is really just another thinly vieled "I hate female artists" thread, huh?sage.
>>8049740Females shouldn't be drawing
>>8051981some ofyour favorite media was almost definitely made by a woman and you don't even know it. I hope this causes existential dread in your feeble mind.
>>8047355both are shit
>>8047345OP's image fucking hurts to see so much because this is literally how it looks everytime I try to draw something that's isn't on my usual shitty cartoony/anime art style.
my new oc :D i decided to do it in a new artstyle since im having mixed feelings in which style i wanna draw in
>>8052053i just realized how low quality this was sorry
>>8052054No no, it's part of the charm
IT'S SO CUTE :3!!!
>>8052053boring attention seeking whore, take it to /lgbt/
DUDE ibis wasnt opening so i had to delete the app and lose everything i hadnt backed up and it STILL wont open and then i find out a lot of people are having this problem and its been 12 hrs the company STILL wont fix their app and I LOST STUFF BECAUSE OF IT. FUUUUUUU
Oh brother, how I pity you...keep trying, maybe they'll fix the problem soon
nobody cares, take it to twitter
procreate doesnt have this problem
How do you build an intuition for anime idiosyncrasies? The stuff that doesn't rely on any rules or construction but you just have to knowIt's usually obvious when someone is actually Japanese vs another culture's cartoon style so there have to be some principles behind it
>>8051482Eeeeeeh as much as I am a Loomis fag I think the skills that OP mentions require a separate skill set that Loomis doesnt teach. Even with his "Fun with a Pencil" book the cartoons that he draws still have too much structure in em to ever be as loose and freeform like the pic in OP. Like in OP's pic some shit is easy to incorporate in one's personal drawings like drawing basic swirls in the place of eyes cause thats a easy symbol to recognize, but achieving the look of those other drawings is harder cause that requires active squashing and stretching of the characters features. It also requires a good proper understanding of your own character design cause you want to know what the limits are on your character in terms of how far they can be stretched before it starts looking unrecognizable/bad.Like to illustrate that Im gonna use the meme elf. On the right we see her "on model" form, the state where she is expected to be at normally, and on the left we see two examples of her in a more caricature state. The one on top still keeps recognizable elements but exaggerated in some areas and simplified in others. On the bottom you see what this artist typically does and just copes an image and adds some of the elf iconography on top. Most artists want to achieve the results of something like the top image, where they have an established character but want to push them to their extremes, but want to avoid something like the bottom where they just copy something someone else made and add some cheap details and still say no its still the same characters you guys. Like even though what this anon here >>8051712 is saying is harmless advice cause it is good to build up a database in your head you dont just wanna copy faces from other characters either cause aside from the obvious symbols like stars for eyes or the :3 lips those exaggerated faces are still based on those original designs so for your own characters you gotta discover what works for them
At the end of the day this isnt one of those things you can be taught outright. Its something that must be learned through trial an error and getting comfortable with being loose and to not be so tied to the structure and rules of the character design that you established, but not go too far unless you want your character to be unrecognizable. I find that animators tend to have it easy in this regard cause in order for some animations to work properly they HAVE to purposefully twist these characters in ways that conventionally look odd in isolation cause it will look fine in the animation. Its no wonder that when you ask them to do it ON PURPOSE they can make all these unique faces that are still recognizably those characters
>>8051482He was literally and specifically asking about the parts that aren’t covered by Loomis. The stylization of facial features etc. The only way to learn that stuff is to actually study anime
>>8051467a thousand refs copied by hand grants me skill to draw them at the end... a thousand refs copied by hand...
>>8052421not them, but>cries softly as i crack open my dog-eared coffee stained old reference manga for the 1000th time. where’s that 756th panel…>newly formed tears dot the work as i flip through the pages, further blurring the ink. i reach a chapter where the lines remain crisp, the paper no longer wavy as a storm-tossed sea. >oh ya, there’s where i left off.^ but the thing is, it’s true. dehydration and back pain are the eternal nemeses.
>draw from imagination>struggle every step of the way and end result isn't that impressive>draw using reference>quality skyrocketsSo that's how you do it huh
>>8050169But if you want to create, sooner or later there will be things without a reference. A dynamic pose, an hard angle, a dragon, a cool background...I am still stuck at learning figure drawing. It's just impossible.
>>8050327didn't norman rockwell use a projector and basically draw and paint over his photo references?
>>8050169Literally everyone knows that you should use reference wherever possible.You still want to be able to draw purely from imagination so that you’re not totally chained to reference, though
I'm absolutely garbage regardless, but I actually get better results drawing purely from imagination than I do drawing from life.
>>8050188
It's been forever since we've had one of these!Theme: Heat, SummerRules:>Claim a tile next to an existing tile>Draw the tile and post it >Make sure your tile aligns with the adjacent tiles>Tile dimension: 200x200 pixels>No AI Starting on tiles F1 and A8.Build on what others drew, be creative and have fun!
>>8043571He's pumping, I'm bumping.
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>>8051631:D
>>8051631Yippee!
>>8052334The plot thickens...
What happens if i lowkirkenuinely close my eyes and can't imagine just how the FUCK does the thing i have to draw look? Like how is a woman with a staff on her hand ment to be on the exact pose where shes just going to stand up, like hand on her knee hunched over and pushing up, but she has a staff on her hand so she would have her right hand not leaning on her knee but, i guess holding the staff upwards, holding up to it, but then that fucks up the movement of her, like she no longer seems to be about to push her body forwardsAnd before you say it have a manly man ass body, the reference doesn't work, specially my shoulders dont have the same sucked into the clavicle look the character has and i cant just invent in what direction they go
That's a developable skill. Swear to God. It hapened when you learned to speak your native language and it can happen again for drawing if you don't fall for literal mindpoison online. I know that's opaque and pie in the sky but i swear it's true.
>>8046910what would one have to do to start out? i tried making an anime girl from imagination, but it came out looking like an ayy lmao
>>8050440I do not know how to put it into words. It's a bit like jazz music or cooking, where being process oriented and listening to your feelings is factually and objectively a better approach than trying to control every element of what you do to curate results. This is the essence of Gesture Drawing.
>>8050707oyh ok, thanks i guess...
>he cant project a 3d apple in his brain
I love ImagineFX. One of the rare print media magazine to even still exist. No one talks about it though. Why is that?
>>8047329absolutely nothing wrong with itautistic weebs pretending to be artists are literal human garbage
>>8051251Anime has taken over the world and there’s nothing you can do about it.My local mall has TWO different anime figure/poster/tshirt shops, can’t say that about any other art style
>>8051695What the fuck does that have to do with me defending faux anime as a legit "style"?Any style can be good if the artist knows what they're doing.
subscribed for exactly one year way way back when (one of the issue's cover was Assassin's Creed 3), now I just download them from sadpanda whenever it was uploaded, which was couple years ago the last time. It was 2019 issues, I think.Not that it matters much, the content is somewhat (understandably) repeats itself after some time and the things that actually useful are 1) you already knew or 2) you can find easily elsewhere. Some tech reviews are entertaining and indeed useful, but again, see point 2.
>>8046952*fuckable
I found this chinese artist named zhang dazhong (zero personal info about him online btw), how do you even get this good?
>>8051716uh... comparing art to the popularity of anime just doesnt make any sene
>>8051716any pretending anime/manga art is anti-realist....thats just weird
>>8051716Any serious anime/manga artist is heavily trained on realism, Katsuhiro Otomo just to name an exampleWhenever you stop using realism (aka literal reality) as a base for your art and switch it for anime, for example, you'll develop a shitty, self-cannibalizing art style like the countless ones we see today, nothing will top realism because it is the foundation of art and the best manga and anime artists would agree with me
>>8051852life is the foundation, not realism.ftfy
>>8051716>>8051726yeah, most anime is pretty realist-ish wtf guy?
Make a portait of this man in your style
Messenger quality because I can't upload with my phone. I think I'll keep adjusting the lower third of his face, the preview pic shows that his hair is still the main anchor of the face, not the beard.
>>8037036
How to draw horror & scary art without looking like an edgy middle schooler?
>>8048717whats wrong with being an edgy middle schooler?
>>8051013Yea, I'm on day 6 of daily blook practice. I started practicing purely to increase the quality of the lunch notes I give her.
>>8048743This is just a Protestant Church potluck.
>>8051049That is cude anon, I think they should be 30% less scary but the idea is great
>>8050927Now I really feel behind... at least with art I had hopes.
seeking critique
Keep practicing. Try spamming a ton of gestures and observational drawings for..... awhile. And then come back to conceptualized illustrations once you've improved
Look AI.
>>8051735Good. Good way to get your art out to people you know.
Post here if you need a REDLINE, REDRAW or a REPAINT or if you want to help other anonsMake sure to specify what area you're struggling withAll skill levels welcome
Looking for a redline hard pose for me, drawing haman karn
>>8046195Post ref
>>8047033maybe sth like this
>>8043263weirdly verbose response for someone who "doesn't remember what happened"
>>8049013>I'm trying really hard to remember what happened>Oh, correct me if I'm wrong. I think what happened was[...]Please work on your reading comprehension.
what do you despise about this software?
the one real complaint is that there isn't a "mouse drag brush angle" command, like how there is with the "mouse drag brush size" command. Like where you hold shift and can change the size of the brush by dragging the cursor around.Evidently under the hood it's so fucked up that there's literally no way for them to add something like that without significant rework and I think that's fucking stupid for something so basic. Makes painting a lot more annoying.otherwise I love it and am glad it exists
>>8050810Nta, but similar stance, I'll learn the tools if I ever find myself needing to learn them. I'm not against them simply because I spite Krita, Krita simply does not provide anything of value that makes it worth getting past that initial friction other than being FOSS, which when all you want to do is draw, is not fucking worth it at all. If they offered something legitimately better than other software, I'd use them. They don't. It's once again, that simple. Right now you're essentially arguing that I should use Krita because it's free, that's literally the only argument it has going for it, but in a time where paid programs can be attained for free via cracks, why would I use Krita? It's counter intuitive to literally all other program UX.
>>8051363I'll fucking do it again
>>8051363>92ae5f3b4dcd9accef7df170561762f2.gif
Sperging out over drawing softwares is a sign of a perma beg
