Does /ic/ support the Bargue Method of learning how to draw? Many of the best artists learned from it, but I wonder if it's outdated.
>>7733748>It's one of the few things that gets easier just by (relatively) mindless practice.Accruaccy training has been anything but mindless and I suck fucking trash at it.I let my mind flutter for a single second and I get lost
>>7733735You most likely need to apply more ways of measuring. And practice it for weeks to get really fast at seeing them in your minds eye and applying them in practice.Vertical and horizontal lines, equals, halves, doubles, diagonals, angles, triangles, squares. Find them first in the reference and then apply them to your drawing.Then learning the subject matter, like anatomy makes it even easier as you can make assumptions without direct measurement.Practice measurement in isolation. Make lots of little sketches where the focus is finding the relationships in the proportions that only take between 30 seconds to 10 minutes.
>>7733756>I let my mind flutter for a single second and I get lostThat's just learning how to draw. As you get more confident, you don't have to consciously juggle a ton of different things at once. They'll be second nature.
>>7731847>Does /ic/ support the Bargue Method of learning how to draw?It's probably great in terms of learning to draw what you see, learning how to accurately do so (with grids, or measurements, or whatever else you use), how to accurately tone a piece.That said, while there's some benefit gained in your basic drawing skills, I don't think they're as great as simply doing those things. Is learning to copy going to teach you anatomy? Is it going to teach you proportions? Is it going to teach you perspective?So while I think it's an exercise worth doing a few times, I personally don't think there's as much to learn from it as simply going through one of the more oft recommended drawing books.
>>7733939this
Pic is one of the most successful artists in the US right now. The only key to success is to be retarded. The more you practice, the more you erode the marketable retardation within you. This is why great artists are so poor and retarded ones are not. Do not lose the beautiful and lucrative retardedness within you.
>>7731907You have Stockholm Syndrome, anon.
>>7731893no.
>>7729767and xkcd is the most popular* webcomic and marvel capeshit movies raked in billions and tou ought to realise by now alot of the population are knuckle dragging retards who dont know whats good and billion dollar marketing companies shill their trash directly into the eyes of these drooling faggots and if the people were truly well informed and owned a deep critical understanding of the arts none of this trash would even exist.but im sure you knew that
>>7731910Is OP actually Mr Krupp?
>>7731973>and xkcd is the most popular* webcomic and marvel capeshit movies raked in billions and tou ought to realise by now alot of the population are knuckle dragging retards who dont know whats good and billion dollar marketing companies shill their trash directly into the eyes of these drooling faggots and if the people were truly well informed and owned a deep critical understanding of the arts none of this trash would even exist.trvke
How much money are you guys making from your art in a year?
>>7732291I have first time clients use either DA shop commissions or Pixiv Requests. The site acts as the middle man so neither artist nor client can screw each other over. For trusted returning clients I give direct PayPal option.
>>7732698this is very imformative may i ask if the site actually sees the piece you are submitting?
>>7732820Pixiv sees it, DA doesnt
About 6500 from drawing at work.
>>7732843QRD?
You guys are so inefficient with your time it's crazy. I've seen people go from early-intermediate amateurs to junior illustrators in 12-18 weeks. They work all day, every day to get there, but it's worth it. They don't spend years at the intermediate plateau. They don't waste thousands of hours on social media. You need to sort out your shit and take this craft seriously or pack it in. A lot of you guys are making progress at 5% of your capacity.
>>7731806I'm ESL.
>>7729295>They don't spend years at the intermediate plateauDude, I spend years at the beginner plateau.
all you constructoids have to do is just show one human being who studied all these old farts and actually succeeded as an artist as a direct result of that practice. Until you do, practice is nothing but a meme.
>>7731851>won’tI don't remember it being requested, fagbait
>>7732350Dude, most of the great painters learned construction, even the Renaissance ones.
WHY DID I PICK THE ANIMATION COURSE IN COLLEGE
>>7734205While a nice painting, the faces are stylised in a classical european way, and the hands are gnarled and oversized, so I wouldn't say it's a great display of his figure drawing prowess.>>7734206>>7734210>>7734211These are good, but they all also strike me as studies, which shows he put the effort in, but doesn't mean he could draw them well without direct reference.>>7733798This is probably the best example of his figure drawing work. It's not great. Not terrible, but not great.All this said, hitler was pretty good at rendering, and I don't think he was a bad artist, like so many desperately claim. He was a landscape painter, and a pretty decent one too, if a little bland in his compositions.>>7734388>Damn! He mogs 99.9% of d/ic/ks too bad his figure drawing skills were shit.W-w-well let's see hitler's anime styled drawings! I bet he draws like a typical gaijin!
>>7734387No obsessed shitskin tranny, I will not draw a portrait of you for you to cumtribute to "pwn da evil fascists!" Kill yourself.
>>7734372I was thinking indie animation or something of the sort. guess I didn't need to go to college for that. that was $750 dollars down the drain.
>>7734443>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnasium_(Germany)Damn, I stand corrected. I'm not as good at pretending I'm German as that other faggot>Both of you, git gud with your criticism.Oh, I don't come here to criticize. I actually draw; I'm just here because I'm waiting for my imprimatura to dry. My observations are reflective of what art I find interesting relative to my own desire to make or follow it. When I say Hitler's landscapes and portraits are boring, I'm saying "I'd never waste my time making something like that; that doesn't invoke anything in me".>>7734461>hitler was pretty good at renderingMost painters are. They tend to disregard accuracy and call it "style", LOL.>>7734487As if you could. How about you pull out your ethernet cable and go back to your drafting desk, if you even have one. I'm sure there's a box of crayons lying around your parents' house.
>>7734210yeah im not glazing because it's omg hitler!but these drawings would get him into any art school or visual art program. and are a good foundation for exploring and creating different styles of art.even if there's one or two flaws, or boring. that's really how it goes with most artists. i'm not saying he's a world class. but are people expecting him to be a picasso at 17/18?
Fuck you, I like Thomas Kincade.
>>7716987what video is this
>>7716752>that super bright skyWhy yes, aurora borealis at this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country.
>>7721310lmao
>>7731114Narrator: The point of the analogy is that you shouldn't eat too many Kincade paintings.
>>7731149is this a reference to something
Damn, you guys REALLY like anime. You know the anime look was just a shortcut for dealing with budget constraints, right?
>>7731433And since you know some things that influenced this a hundred years ago, the conclusion is what exactly?
>>7734679it doesnt help that all the most shilled and "popular" stuff is either shonen or girly waifu shit. manime is dying out
>>7734459kys faggot bumper
>>7731489Imagine calling 4chan your home. You're like a retarded hobo living in a dumpster alley, sperging over someone throwing trash your way
>>7734689so why are you i our alley then, mr. fancypants gucci loafers?
Which is better?
>>7732867Digital. Physical painting decays over time. Old artworks are repainted over and over throughout history to the point that they arent even what the original artist did. pic rel, right was the original.
>>7733625Bro put the sweet face of his juicy pussy on the piece he had just stolen.
>>7733625You will never be a man ahh painting
>>7732867digital made me so lazy that even painting with watercolors feels like a hassle
>>7732867To work with and use in your profession? Digital for sure.To impress others and to really make a legacy with a piece of art? Traditional.Here's a question; for all the digital art that exists in the world, with all the artists using that medium, and for as long as digital art has been around now... why isn't there seemingly a single piece of digital art that is up there in the pantheon of great pieces of art? Why isn't there a digital painting Mona Lisa? Why isn't there a 3D model version of The Thinker?People appreciate digital art, but they don't appreciate it like they do traditional.
What do you think about this year 'tober prompt?
>>7730692Anyone got any tips for drawing with ink for a beg?
I dont want to be a faggot who does digital for Inktober, but I also dont want to but out all my old trad supplies.
>>7734556Just go buy a sharpie my dude
>>7734553Just start with a sakura pigma micron. relatively cheap to pick up a starter set. You dont really need wide number of sizes. I wouldnt worry about the brush versions (pentel pocket brush can be nice, but some have defective bristles you need to trim/annoying if get shitty one, some sakura sets have 1 brush pen in it). You probaby end up using 001, 01, 03, 05 and maybe spot blacks with a brush or 1 (this is like marker thick kinda thing). Dont get caught up spending lots on nibs or gpens or watercolor brushes and ink. Just start with something simple like $10 pack of microns.https://www.youtube.com/@RichardFriendartist - comic book artist/inker. go through his archives. used to post lots of tutorials on inking, tools, and videos on hatching like wrightson and franklin booth, etc like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJXCw9J9eFI https://www.youtube.com/@stephentraversart - does lot of inking videos for landscapes and plein air type stuff. can see how he breaks down a photo or reference and how he builds the ink up into a full image.https://www.youtube.com/@longstrideillustration - similar to travers with arti tutorials, but shows how to render like other famous artists and other inking tutorials like rocks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KZATKZsRfc or grass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZiopESzIAo&t=5stry to do pen contorl exercises and focus on various lines and shapes like attached image. Just spend 10-15 mins doing these types of small blocks. focus on line quality. can fill block or go from light to darker/denser lines to create gradients, etc. look up zentangles. they are 'fun' little doodle exercises similar to these. can help with line control and weights to generate patterns and get used to using pen or whatever tool you go with. once done, move to textures like the rock, grass, etc tutorials. dont do entire drawings. just make generic rock shapes and try to render it. do small squares of bushes and grass sections.
>>7734553Watch speedpaint and something similar and mimic their technique/method to your drawinghttps://files.catbox.moe/ldxtds.mp4
Use the subject of your choice.
>>7733716Can confirm.
>>7733716her brapper's tight as a stevedore's grip, but her puss'll do in a pinch
>>7727756Wallpaper-worthy
>>7727756fuck you I wont draw what you tell me
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>>7733327You make her look so cool, thanks!
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Post your favorite novel illustrations.
>>7733638bernie wrightson's frankenstein is the pinnacle of illustrated novels.
>>7733655Wrightson is so good that the drawings he *cut* from this book are better than anything out there aside from the stuff he kept in.
My personal favorite is Tove Jansson's work in Lord of the rings books. It's not the technically best, but I love it.
>>7733638Theres not many that stand out to me. Dore bible etc engravings i guess might count. Wrightson frankenstein plates. The hibbot i guess had some sketches and maps. Alice in wonderland but not amazing art from original. Moby dick has some but i dont think they were from original release. Feels like very rare for a novel outside random weeb light novels to have focus on illustrations or any included.
>>7733638Not so much a 'novel', but Jean Paul Colbus did a series of illustrations for a book on Chess, and I believe he didn't illustrate anything else? Shame, because what he did was great.
I call this painting 'Greta Deflowered'
>>7734303Ever heard of Emma Watson?
>>7734240But this is "Calm", painted by Serge Marshennikov in 2018.https://www.artsy.net/artwork/serge-marshennikov-calm-2018
>>7734240Stop wasting bandwith and go touch some grass.
>>7734240That takes courage.
Plucking the Wallflower
how do you achieve consistent lineart? i understand line weight perfectly but i find it hard to consistently press down exactly how hard i need to for my lineart to all be the same where it needs to be
>>7730164For perfectly consistent or tight lines you can use a stabilizer and draw your lineart on a vector layer, that way you can manually adjust your lines after you put them down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_tEeMxfS44
>>7730200dont professionals use the pen tool at all? its very helpful.
just make a brush that has a limited pressure rangeeasy
>>7730170This. It's very difficult to do all in one go. You can, sometimes, but it's more effort than it's worth.Paint your lines. Sculpt them.
>>7730164Go vector. Then again my style usually has slightly variable line weight.Alternatively, use ibisPaint X on your phone and use your fingers only.
>I just need the right course>I just need the right book>I just need the right referenceYou just need to draw, nigga.
>>7733292What youtube channel?
>>7733003i was going through dozens of these meticulously detailed pics i drew in 2023 all I could think of was "how the fuck did i draw all these? i didnt even plan them or have the equipment i have now i actually just did it I didnt even think. lol what the fuck im a fucking loser"
>>7734179https://youtube.com/@praisethesun6453
>>7734176I don't read manga.>>7734179>>7734405
>>7734299same thing happened to me. I had more creative and expressive drawings last year than now. Half of them I wouldn't even finish if I were to do them now.
