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>There is one thing not to do, and that is simply to drift along with the daily routine, making no extra effort. You will soon find yourself middle-aged, having done nothing more than routine jobs, and being little farther along than you were years ago. The extra effort is the difference between the great mass of mediocre artists and the comparatively small group of very good ones.
>And in Art, study can never stop. You will find sketches galore in the studio of the good man, with the paint quite fresh. The mediocre artist's sketches are old and dusty.
>I have seen so many middle-aged artists still hoping, whose samples are frayed at the edges, and thumb-marked with time. Sometimes it has been a matter of years since they sat down and actually did something to give their hopes any promise. They are plodding their lives away at something they hate, and doing nothing about it. These are the men who never seem to have had a chance. The truth is, they never seized a chance.
- Andrew Loomis, Creative Illustration

/Studies/ General is all about improving your art and never settling for mediocrity. Every artist is a student, forever and ever. Anybody, from beginner to pro, can post here. Any style is accepted. Critiques are welcome and encouraged. Let's make this a productive thread!

Read the fucking sticky: http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/

Recommended Resources:
https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

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>>7132440
>>7129259
Oh yeah and Dougs little thumbnail sketches were the most useful thing to me surprisingly. This one here for example is what I mean. Just a free flowing and quick idea on the page before the real thing. Try giving it a go if your ever stuck.
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>>7132093
>>7132255
Nice. I'm personally not so big fan of using the brush but that's probably because I'm lacking the skills needed to use it properly
Both Frazetta's and Amano's brush art is splendid
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Back in the swing of things, more copies from Huston's book.

>>7102024
>Was there anyone you studied before Huston, which you found really helpful?
Thanks. Sorry about the late reply. Before this I went through most of Proko's free anatomy course, Michael Hampton's first CGMA course and daily figure drawing practice. The courses helped but the 100s of hours of figure drawing helped the most. I like Steve Huston's instruction a lot more.
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>>7132069
Glad you like it anon, really appreciate your kind words.
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>>7132069
Also don’t mind them, no one has ever done anything worthwhile without having nasty bugs bothering them. Just gotta persevere

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>Guidelines:

1. [THE MOST TAISETSU] Don't post too revealing works (especially porn). If you think it's too lewd, post a censored copy here and link to Catbox, Imgur, or any off-site that hosts images for your works.

2. Do not post child photo references, legal or otherwise.

3. Due to this general's PPH (posts per hour/thread activity), please wait until the thread falls to around page 5 or 6 before making a thread. Use archived(moe) or warosu to retrieve the old threads.

4. Please do NOT talk about real children. Keep it 2D only.

>Lolicon Artists Directory & General Information
https://load.blogs.allthefallen.moe/


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>>7132324
The real Pippa is like nearly 30. The character isn't. She is a very gross person. She hates showering and drinks nothing but soda. She lives in filth and mold because she never cleans. I am very aware. Still loli bro.
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>>7132329
Sorry, I just have problems separating 3dpd from vtubers because I fucking hate vtubers. Filthy fucking 3dpd usurping my 2d bitches.

Looking cute tho.
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>>7131787
Cute, I like it anon.
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>>7132159
her left leg is off
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>>7131787
i looked her up and saw her announcement, anon I pray your oshiwife is ok

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>>7132032
whats this
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>>7132170
This
https://e-hentai.org/g/2367763/1b25ad2999/
but some of the full/double pages are tiny for some reason
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Can't seem to find a link for Vision: Color and Composition for Film by Hans Bacher anywhere. Does anyone have a scan?
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please i can't find it anywhere, thanks
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>>7132178
>chinese
ugh
Still, looks very good, Maybe I'll buy it and read the AI translated one, if there's one of course.
I still kinda regret learning japanese when almost all the interesting books I find are chinese or korean.

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I’m struggling to find sources such as books to learn to draw these cool artistic “backgrounds” I don’t even know how to call them honestly but I think they look really cool and I’d like to learn how to make them
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I used to fiddle around with Photoshop, finding source material online and morphing them with filters in search for stuff that I could use in Second Life. This was a texture meant for a build,and originally was an orange photo of dripping ice. I find true abstract art respectfully incomprehensible, not a thing that I normally spend the rare drawing time on,but lately I have been tossing out surreal imagery in some new comics,but I abandoned them in favor of other projects,but they have potential if I bothered to give the ideas more development instead of a plunge directly to the Comic Standard Bristol board that I have a limited supply of,then I might have continued it. I I'll post one next. It has a character drinking Chaos tainted wine,and the brief transformation sequence it manifests.
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>>7132097
It’s called abstract urban art for those who wanna know
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>>7132509
I feel like certain types abstract art have potential to make comics more interesting
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>>7132097
Have made and attempt yet? Have you ask yourself what is it about it that you like?

a good drawing is the aftermath of having fun. it's what is left on the page after you had fun with your pencil

if you ever think anything like "I hope this turns out good/is up to a certain standard of quality/I hope I become great" while you are drawing you will not make a good drawing
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I think you're entangling outcomes of expression with something on the order of desire.

I agree that what's left is a product of utensil function. here for brevity i'll say f(x) = x times "fun" divided by "I hope this turns out good" and there's like a graph where the function is in the "actually good" quadrant or the "actually bad" quadrant

I agree that desires or expectations can negatively impact creativity and I also think defining "good" with a singular judgement about whether or not I was thinking "I hope this turns out good" is an insufficient parameterization.

There are no good drawings(obstensibly, no bad drawings) there are just drawings and our values layered on top saying that the drawing is good or bad.
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>>7132601
> if you ever think anything like "I hope this turns out good/is up to a certain standard of quality/I hope I become great" while you are drawing you will not make a good drawing
Perhaps, but you'll experiment and learn stuff

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No /TRAD/ general? Aight, this will be the trad general. Post your recent trad artworks/WIPs in this thread.

I will begin. Will really appreciate critiques.
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have a clumsy frazetta study, first time using a gpen and brush.
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This is insane. absolutely insane. I can not explain and I can not express how insane this watercolor image is.
INSANE
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>>7131681
Yeah youre good. Nice work and I think the kind of feedback I gave would have been enough to keep in mind for the next time, nothing that you absolutely had to address. Excited to see how it turns out

>>7131945
The goat, although I dont strive for realism personally. Imagine seeing this when photos were poorer quality, rare and b&w
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>>7131945
The power of white gouache.

Also probably of photo references. (1886 is about 40 years after the first permanent colored photo).

(It's not that crazy if you've actually tried to paint water reflections; most of the water is very abstract and loose)
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Do you guys sketch/draw in public? What do you draw? I'm not good at it so I don't want to draw people(because I don't want to accidentaly make a caricature and also because anxiety), but drawing tress and building is boring and animals are hard to find sometimes and they move.

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Give it to me straight. How is it possible for a mangaka to draw 20 pages in a week? How can I harness this power, for my webcomic?
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By making it their job.
Being very good.
Having assistants.
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team effort

I used to think this one guy who streamed drawing his manga all day was just him alone drawing it but it turned out it was 2 people swapping in and out.
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>>7132583
>>7132584
Oh shit, this is what I get for morning posting. Should have actually read OPs post.
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>>7132318
they must like doing manga for a living. They only get assistants when their manga is selling well.
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>>7132619
it's still tangentially related, ergo based. no need to put your thoughts to shame

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Hello. I'm trying to create a macrostyle [Roots: Groenism, Schulzism, Primitive Tezukism], but I'm having difficulty increasing visual entropy in a non-arbitrary way.

From a soft perspective: any tips for increasing entropy? Maybe through shadows/gradients?
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>>7132092
can you put the thesaurus down and post normally?
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>>7130628
Ok I kinda get what you were trying to ask now but have you tried communicating your thoughts normally and unlike an autistic retard? Throwing around your local terms "you" personally use isn't gonna help you, in fact discarding them and learning how to communicate in modern standard English will probably help you in some way with your drawing compositions.

Also in trying to create a "macrostyle" based on what I've understood of it, is a waste of time. from your definition it requires appealing to a large set of people, thus making it bland and soulless as it tries to accommodate our each and every individualistic preference, smoothing itself out into an uninteresting smooth blob of shit.
Who would want to contribute to developing a style they are not interested in? "Macrostyles" are born out of a combination of bold creativity and a bit of luck. Leyendecker didn't develop his style for this purpose, yet I still find myself endlessly inspired by his works (as do a lot of other people).
In other words just get good and hope for the best.
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>>7132092
what about things like rubber hose, Hanna Barbara and looney tunes art styles that where basically exactly what you are talking about?

They have extremely approachable styles and where approachable for decades - every animation studio effectively used these
the idea that "each nation should have it's macrostyle" is fundamentally retarded - styles change alongside the people living in them

even "anime" is a broadstroke term - look at things like ampanman and evangelion and tell me they are the same style you absolute donkey
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>>7130066
autistic drawings
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>>7130920
Cute and silly. Literally only reason why I decided to check this thread.
>>7130066
Post it on /i/. Might get more doodles of her

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Thread to study the male body. Post your art, discuss artists, and post resources related to the subject of cute boys and handsome men.

Some resources:
>English Youtube channel with tutorials about ikemen/anime boys:
https://www.youtube.com/user/SirKite92/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/Dospordos/videos

Rules:
>Do not take the bait or derail. Don't be a sperg.
>Don't fight about different male body types, ikemen/twink/bara. Nobody cares.
>No femboy/trans/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that.
>No shota. Go to /lsg/ or /ssg/ for that.
>No tits, no coochies, no female body ratio.
>Females are welcome so long as the image remains male focused.
>Don't sperg if a feminine male (not femboy) is posted, ignore if it's not your cup of tea, keep in mind the nature of stylization and simplification in anime and cartoon art styles before you choose to derail the thread, though crit is welcome like always.

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>>7132341
non-oc is fine just gotta be a cute guy
also baby hand
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I’m gonna make these into the cutest boys that every boyed
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>>7132458
Cute!
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>>7132458
what’s that brush?
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>>7132573
HB1 modified

>Animation Thread Discord
https://discord.gg/Ju9NuWN

>51 exercises to try
http://www.animatorisland.com/51-great-animation-exercises-to-master/

>basic programs
https://opentoonz.github.io/e/
https://www.synfig.org/
https://motorpen.com
https://tupitube.com/

>Reference
http://www.referencereference.com/
https://vimeo.com/groups/aniref

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>>7132208
looks really good except for the last tilted head/face
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angry lady with a big problem

Trying to color more often than just sketches these days.
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>>7132208
>>7132461
Very nice both of you.
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>>7130876

first 3 frames are done. It gives you a since of whats going on. I'll wait till its completely done before posting again.
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>>7132556
Ok, I lied, 1 more gif before its done. I mean... Look how much difference 1 extra frame makes! Completely different animation now!

4 frames in, 4 frames to go. The next 4 frames will be easier to make since im not trying to figure out what to do while i do it lol.

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Whoever posted the Video course general thread,
FUCK YOU
all of the websites mentioned on the thread are dogshit paywalled slop and require me to pay (((shekels))) for downloading from the server like a good goyim !!

any alternative for downloading this course pic related /a torrent link and thank you??
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>>7130764
don't rely on them, they wont help you in the end

just draw
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Any course about how to animate 2D art in after effect?
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>>7131820
dang... wrong post...,
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>>7130764
this is not a beg course and is not for everyone, it is supplementary to your own knowledge
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>>7131574
use a debit card...

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>use draw a box bro, you'll see results in no time

>the draw a box creator art
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>>7131973
your newfag is showing
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>>7131973
It’s truly over…this board is only for newfags now
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>>7132008
Because i am
Just was here for idk about month or now
>>7132010
As if i newfag will destroy the board, poison the water supply
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>>7132015
That piece you're referring to is a meme. At this point it may as well belong to no one.
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>>7123033
It has very poor value control.
And the characters are just exceedingly ugly.

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I don't know any brush that can do that.
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i think its a matter of messing around with the pen pressure settings in your drawing program/tablet driver. pen pressure further into the 'soft' curve should give you that kind of line weight variety. i think. its been a while since i messed around with it

Is copying, and understanding, Bridgman's over and over actually valuable?
I heard some artists talking about it, what do you guys think?
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>>7131941
Yuri pls marry m3
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>>7132081
>Yuri pls marry me
She's the best girl of that Q&A by far, the other girls talk about BS like copying anime frame by frame and drawing fanart of their favorite characters but she's the real deal when it comes to advice on resources, practice methods, software, etc. Not to mention that she's girly while the others are tomboys.
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Bridgman mostly works but his quads drawings are just awful
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>>7132215
>the other girls talk about BS like copying anime frame by frame and drawing fanart of their favorite characters
These are good things to do

One of the few artists that taught me how to get into digital art hasn't been active in 2 years. She had been diagnosed with cancer years earlier and was losing her voice. Now, she doesn't upload anywhere anymore. When I thought about the idea that maybe she passed away in 2022 makes me cry really hard. Even though we never met IRL, never hung out, and I only participated in her streams a few times, I am deeply sorrowful at the fact she will never draw again, her art was so cute. Like a little piece of my history as an artist finally blipped out and will never doodle again. Makes me tear up, I'm going to miss her.
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>>7132408
go /pro/ to honor her memory nigga, she watches your path from the skies
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Don't worry, now that World War III is starting we're all going to visit it!
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>>7132408
>Yamio
Ah, fuck... It's been 2 years since her last post
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