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Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

Do not worry pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills. They often post paid twitter promos from random artists. It's all shilling, ignore it.

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>>7756624
almost every ilustrator reviews something if they got it for free, kek i even remember guy that draws on ipad, in procreate, and he reviewed some kind of xp pen, using clip studio paint and his artwork was much worse than usual, duno if it was caused by lack of line corections.
I recommend teoh on tech
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>>7724410
im using split keyboard, mainly left side but i have another half on right side if i need to type something
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Any high-end pen tablet that's not an intuos pro? Similar price and quality, no ipads please
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>>7756546
Basically what my tablet screen looks like now
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Is the XP-PEN Artist 12 (2nd Gen) good? It's on sale rn for 120 euros

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>Story about a 40 yo retard who becomes a superhero
>Mangaka has amateur art, but still made it
This is hopefuel, anon. They made his shit into a fucking anime.
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>>7756512
honestly thats why I hate so many western comic artsts, I go to comiccons and all the indie artists theyre making the same stupid shit, dumb 20 page short storys about superheroes. Nothing true to life, its all slop. Write something real, the japs are great, theres so many awesome long running series that are continuous stories, not short single issue arcs about the world ending
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>>7755184
society is becoming full of retard neets with no skills living in their parents homes, with absolutely no taste for art. Of course a shit manga like that found success, stories about working hard and not giving up no longer sell.
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>>7755191
this is the wrong way to look at it. I'll give you a hint. the reverse is also the wrong way.
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>>7756526
>society is becoming full of retard neets with no skills living in their parents homes, with absolutely no taste for art.
That make no sense, 99.9% of story creators are normal adults with a day job.
The isekai subgenre was created by Japanese salarymen trying to escape their horrible work conditions not NEETs or anyone else living life in easy mode.
>Of course a shit manga like that found success, stories about working hard and not giving up no longer sell.
Japanese fiction is about fantasy, and living your dreams not emulating real life.
There's a reason why modern Western fiction is so disliked around the world while Asian fiction is so beloved.
>>7756506
>wasn't spawn co-written with neil gaiman?
The first chapter that Gaiman wrote's chapter 9 and he created a few characters like Angela and Medieval Spawn.
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>>7756512
early spawn was alright before it became a powerwankfest like japanese shonen

Simple OC >>> overdesigned sparkle dog

TRVKE
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>>7756382
Does anyone outside of the 13 year olds who make sparkledogs disagree with this?
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>>7756382
ok but what does picrel have to do with that
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>>7756412
>Does anyone outside of the 13 year olds
Why would anyone pull out?
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>>7756410
Truth be told, some things (as appealing as they may seem) should be kept within the illustrated realm.
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>>7756382
she is so cute, i love her

For stupid questions and questions that don't deserve their own thread.
Post here if you don't expect your thread to reach 100+ replies.
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>>7755992
Also if you're really having a hard time you can post some of your art and I'll tell you what I'd pay for it.
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>>7756295
Isee.
As a neet so time is all I really have. This is about the standard type of stuff I can whip up (as in, character etc design standing in void). I have not measured the time it takes me to finish something like this but I'd guess that it is about 5-6 hours maybe from just concepting all the way to finishing up the coloring and lighting, if I were to go about it in one go.
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>>7751779
>accidentally mogs 51% of /ic/
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>>7756468
Yeah I'd probably pay around $75 for a piece like this. If you're being asked to come up with a design for someone and not just drawing a character they give you, add another $25. You can then do like $50 for a half body, $25 for a sketch or whatever if you really want to add other options. And remember, this is just one guy so negotiate with him if he rejects these prices.
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>>7756937
Hmm, I see, thanks, that gives me some perspective, I honestly had no idea of what monetary value I would give to my own work.

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Why do artists tend to go insane and/or break down mentally so often?
Does drawing make you go crazy?
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i wanna post some of my stuff on here. but i'll worried the stuff i drew would be way too niche for peoples taste
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>>7747993
>every time you draw you're putting a piece of your soul into what you draw
schizophrenic
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>>7737955
The ones that go insane are in validation cycle.
>obsess over numbers
>need to be liked, popular
>if someone criticizes or comments on their art it gets taken to heart or goes directly to their head

The best way to prevent this is by having a liason or independent wealth
>mangakas have editors or managers so they can concentrate on their art without getting affected by the opinions of strangers
>nepobabies and rich housewives draw and paint whatever the fuck they want bc it's not tied to survival or identity
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>>7756497
you'll grow older and understand.
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>>7737956
fpbp

Does /ic/ has an actor, model, or famous person that they think it looks like theyr OC?
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>>7756553
Nice try, SEAnigger.
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>>7756552
Doesnt have to look exactly like the character lol I guess my point is more like when you see a certain person in any medium and your mind goes "If i had to do a live action with my OCs i would pick THIS person"
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>>7756731
WTF are you on about? What do you mean with "exactly"? Your character looks NOTHING like the girls you posted.
Are you talking about the character's personality or manerisms?
JFC, this anon >>7756553 is absolutely correct
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>>7756776
just a reminder, this autist was booted from dad.gallery because he could not stop gloating about using ai (and the site has no slop rule)
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>>7756776
It does in my mind

>>7756919
To cool for that site

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>as time goes, artist that produce this level of work become more common.
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>>7756540
Fame and popularity at young age absolutely does fucks with your brain. I mean I remembered when I was in last year of highschool and Ib came out, and since then for about 2-3 years I was obsessed about making my own hit rpgmaker indie game and daydreaming getting famous. Never made any game but eventually did learnt to draw. Then after graduating college none of these even matter in the end lmao.
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>>7755092
>traced AI
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>>7755108
Based and underrated
When you're young you have all the time in the world and no responsibility
Getting good past 30 or 35 is genuinely impressive.
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>>7755108
This is what I've been thinking after hearing some lawfirm commercial yesterday on the radio. They said something that completely flipped the narrative and I thought that was unique. It's the same with 35/40 starting journey accounts. Those are more interesting.
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>>7755092
>make mid art
>lie you're 16
>get likes

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Figure drawing is a fun and good way to get better at drawing humans.

Some free resources:

https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://www.quickposes.com/en
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/random
https://www.characterdesigns.com/non-nude-photo-index
https://www.lovelifedrawing.com/tutorials/
https://app.posemy.art/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practice
https://www.rkgk.org/

Might as well check the archives and active /ic/ threads for references:

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>>7755438
>>7755483
i just really don't understand how to draw and the only advice i ever get is this
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>>7756306
Yeah, that looks better already!
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>>7753468
>>7754369
OP here. I love critiqued work. I truly do.
I do wonder sometime about people that give opnions without showing their work. I have some education that goes with my work as an artist. I can take all comers.
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>>7755972
Thanks! The ref is from posemaniacs.com
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>>7727689
continuation of this. decided to fill up the page before moving on to different angles.

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>artist(s) draws traditionally and does great soulful work
>goes digital
>soulfulness and quality plummets and never recovers

How do you explain this phenomenon? Is traditional drawing inherently more soulful in a way that digital art can't replicate?
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>>7754430

a single 4K PNG is like 8-16 MB, or 25 MB at most, assuming it's fully rendered and you're using gradient shading, detailed backgrounds, etc

you can store around 40 to 50 4K PNGs on a single gigabyte, and a terabyte will give you a thousand times that.

unless you're storing minute long APNG animations, i don't buy it. 1 TB is enough, and 2 TB is available for not much more.
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>>7756615
>png
for an output of 4k png, you'll be keeping working files of >4000p
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>>7754617
I think bro has a nurse fetish.
Probably begged Yoshinori Kanada or whoever was in charge of assigning cuts on the Download OVA to give him that scene.
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>>7756581
uhhh that would mean the fired animators can just make their own anime and all 500 studios in japan will go bankrupt overnight
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>>7756698
They wouldn't be able to compete unless they also use AI; and since they are poorer, they are in great disadvantage.

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Do you agree?
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>>7752414
>my way is the only way if it's not my way you suck
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I've tried to use 3d models and it's too much effort for poses that end up feeling unnatural / stiff
I find it easier to make my own refs by taking photos
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>>7756651
>it's too much effort for poses that end up feeling unnatural / stiff
you are not meant to completely trace the 3d model retardbro..
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>>7756734
I don't do either with models or photos
the point is that there's a logic to how the body naturally balances itself that is lacking with 3d models
like how a hand grips an object gracefully, or how much twist in the torso with a sitting pose is still comfortable, etc
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okay but in all seriousness it’s much easier to just draw the pose

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>>7756593
>physical book
good luck lol
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>>7756593
seconding
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>>7756593
The reviews say it’s shit cash grab.
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Requesting
>Chocolat Cadabra Archives
I think there's a Chinese scan floating around somewhere but it probably requires a login or something
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>>7756676
Unfortunately this is a vietnamese basket weaving forum. Ask the chinese one.

What's some random art from childhood that stuck in your memory for some reason?
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>>7747089
Speaking of, this bad boy qualifies for OP
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A lot of you guys are really old wtf
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warhammer coverart
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>>7742131
Aaay, ausbro
I remember the art on this, I also remember avoiding looking at the art while I ate it because it put me off so much.

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For now, crab 4 has the craziest ending yet
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>>7757130
100% pure insanity
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>>7757130
I think we need to thank our beloved former absolute overlord for this! Let's all sing along and celebrate in honor of the great, cool and powerful DOOMVA!
https://youtu.be/TfpiHv1kP5E?si=ZtghLgx5id65fvkq
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The only good filthy techie is a dead techie!! Farewell, feline!
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I liked DOOMVA

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Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

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Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg

Books:
Understanding Comics
https://e-hentai.org/g/2042453/83e7da6ed0/
Making Comics

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>>7756972
>I haven't tried Mixam but heard of good results. They also have a common manga size format.
I've used Mixam for about 5 years now. They've always been very helpful to me and their interface for uploading documents is extremely intuitive and fast. One time I fucked something up by accident and they had a customer service guy contact me out of the blue directly that they had paused my order to double check that everything was done correctly before they processed my payment.
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>>7756889
>Something like Sailor Moon on its face is the most ridiculous teenager thing ever
no that's what actual adults write for their target audience, teenagers write about "deep" takes on religion
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>>7756996
Sailor Moon is just Mean Girls for fujoshis and was that back in the day. If you understand you were not born at that time and won't be able to understand.
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>>7756972
>Amazon KDP
I remember being told about this. I will be honest I didn't take it seriously back then but if I ever do decide to do things online this probably would be the best avenue. The marketing tactics for those who self-publish seem miserable and I just pray I don't have to be those people.
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>>7757021
Holy fucking cringelord, please stop embarrassing yourself

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Why are a vast majority of modern western artists and art fans retards or losers? They're mostly dumbasses, assholes, and dropouts and seem to be at the bottom of society irl. This is overwhelmingly the case once you dig into them. I'm aware it may be that way because your place in society isn't directly correlated with art and people often choose a less taxing job if they want to focus on their art. However, if that were the case then you'd find artists distributed somewhat randomly in all stations of life. But that isn't the case.

Doesn't art depend on thought and the mind heavily? Is it because most of western art related media is retarded and hence attract retards? Is this why the topics they get into are always rather immature?

On the other hand when I look through JP artists bios it's some med student doing it as a hobby or when looking through interviews of illustrators, a lot of them studied stuff like chemical engineering in undergrad and switched to the arts in post-grad. Is it because western society doesn't really respect artists at all and hence there's little place for them in society. In turn, a lot of astute people here shun art thinking there is no prospect and hence not worth pursuing?

It didn't used to be like this, Jim Lee from DC went to Princeton and was supposedly on track to study medicine. Where are the type of artists like this now in the west? Yes, this is a rare and extreme example, but it just seems like Japanese artists aren't always in the bottom rung of society as western ones and it's sad to see.

I'm really not trying to glaze Japan, rather, I don't have much reference for other non-western countries. My point is more why western artists are generally bottom feeders and not great people, even down to their personality.
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>>7755791
Retarded politically downstream ESL nigger. Die.
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>>7755879
the guild system still exists; it's called art school now.
If you're an online artists you just need to suck dicks in the right discords.
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>>7755932
An art school is just an education, what the guild system did was guarantee reputation and commissions based off doing a intermediary period of journeyman ship still helping a master artist while selling smaller pieces.
Nowadays you can get an education but there's no guarantee you will be led out into good prospects, even award winners are making livings but aren't guaranteed that they're going to catch anyone of values eye, selling art education separately from guaranteed work in a sense was the ultimate commodification and "scamming" of art.
I know it began in urban cities like Paris where the demand for art outgrew the amount of people that could work at a artists studio in conjunction with paintings going from mural size to fitting in homes, and therefore it was a good way of teaching the unwashed masses who would have gotten nothing otherwise, but that "Good deal" is gone now because the education isn't dirt cheap because instructors, campus owners, the like, all charge thousands for what used to be done for free as community service by artists and only models and supplies being paid for.
It evolved into a terrible shadow of itself, and now there just is no network.
Why bother doing anything when some outsider artist who works using period blood and is schizophrenic gets picked up by a jew because they know they will OD on heroin before 30 and that will make their manufactured popularity skyrocket to millions to hundreds of millions per piece at Sothebys?
Unless the way artists are brought up beyond the education stages changes no matter how good the education is you are fundamentally scamming people out of money and throwing them into shark infested waters off a sinking ship.
Of course, why would you want a large group of people to have job security? Chances are the jews, bourgeoisie, whatever you call them, understand that this is a broken system, but its one that they can therefore exploit and prefer to have around.
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>>7754936
>another west vs east thread
>absolutely braindead "arguments" again
Every fucking day and you apes keep
replying
kys OP you dumb ass weebniggr
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>>7756572
well, it's fun


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