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I bought some simple pencils and paper a week ago. And then I started researching what books I should buy if I want to learn how to draw. It‘s been A WEEK and all I did was RESEARCH. I have not drawn a second.

There are dozens of beginner how to draw books. Everyone is shilling something else. Then there are dozens of books on gesture drawing, figures, faces, perspective etc. What do I pick here?

Okay, my goal is to draw anime illustrations, lame I know. But again. In the anime study general there are like 60 pages of Japanese drawing books. Should I really translate and study them? Then you also have 30K anime artbooks on e-hentai referenced in the artbook thread. I looked through /ic/ archive and everyone is saying something different about learning anime style. My head is spinning. I don‘t know which advice, books, resources to actually follow.

And then there is a big hole for resources in between. What about coloring your anime girls? Shading? What is even „rendering“? CSP guide? What kind of brush do I need for what?

Fuck I just want to learn how to draw and then just draw a lot. Help
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>>8076589
The best book on drawing for beginners is "Just Draw", it was hidden in plain sight. Easy to dismiss.
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>>8075562
You don't
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These are the books that are currently helping me:

Figure Drawing Design and Invention for gesture and anatomy and other minor subjects like construction, clothes, design

Freehand Figure Drawing for Illustrators for construction of a mannequin

Framed Perspective volumes 1 and 2 for perspective

Burne Hogarth's Dynamic Figure Drawing for how the figure operates

Framed Ink for composition

Morpho Simplified Forms and Morpho Clothes and Folds for further detail into how anatomy and clothes can be constructed

Rendering in Pen and Ink

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>>8075562
You suffer from analysis paralysis.
The secret to learning to draw (and I am very specific about the word draw - not painting, not art in general) is that most people are not "taught" how to draw, and cannot be. Rather, you have to discover how to draw. You have to be a bit of an autodidact. You have to be willing to experiment over and over again, i.e. practice. Because drawing is ultimately about developing your own process that gives you results reliably. It's the space between your mind and a blank page, and no one else can really get in there. Some books can certainly point you in the right direction, but ultimately you still have to convince yourself that it works. When it doesn't, people blame the book/teacher.
There are some basic things you can learn that are collectively known as "the fundamentals", but I bet you already know which books to get for that. The fundamentals is actually a relatively small subject compared to other fields of study. You'd never know it based on how much bloviating we do here, but that's just to make us feel what we do is important or serious. But it's all mark making, and a few geometric rules and tricks. Certainly not worthy of dedicating entire websites to, especially not a paid one.
What you actually need to spend more time on, after learning the fundamentals, is understanding the subject you want to draw. Figure books don't really teach you to draw, they teach you some shorthand about anatomy. If you want to draw sci-fi mechs, then some engineering experience, or even having just worked on a car before, will be infinitely more valuable than downloading another book. If you want to draw anime style, watch and study anime.
You don't necessarily need a book on anime style. You need a grounding in the fundamentals so that you know what to pay attention to, so that you can translate to paper what you've visually absorbed.
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>>8075739
We need one more FUN shizo

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examples of western and non Japanese moe
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I have a hard time understanding what moe is, beyond being 'cute'.
Like is Deedee from Dexter's lab moe? What about Frankie from Foster's home?
If they are, then aren't most cartoon characters moe?
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>>8080134
moe is the feeling of wanting to protect the person, the feeling you get towards your children and wife, a puppy, there needs to be some kind of vulnerability for a character to feel moe
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>>8080134
Moe is derived from the pity reflex. The character must be not just cute, but innocent and helpless to the point of absurdity. Like watching a puppy hop around on the edge of a cliff. It must be impossibly naive and constantly threatening to destroy itself in some way.

Western moe is actually characters like Leeloo from the Fifth Element, or Knives Chao from Scott Pilgrim. Zooey Daeschenel characters are moe.
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>>8079042
woah this looks straight up like nurzhan bekkaliyev. Illustrations like these are one of his style inspos ig
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>>8079273
middle looks like mckenna grace

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What are you supposed to draw when you have no ideas or inspiration to draw from? I dont want to use anhedonia as an excuse, but its extremely hard to come up with even a simple idea in this state.
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>>8080191
whenever i feel like this i just look at the images saved on my image folder one by one, there's a reason i saved them, sometimes they spark an idea, an outfit, a pose, a character...
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>>8080191
watch more anime
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Draw a penis and some boobs. That always works for me.
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>>8080191
you don't have anything you like? go outside on a walk and observe the world around you, read a book about smth you like, watch a video pertaining to your interests. There's so many interesting visual things in the world, surely you can pick one as a subject.
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>>8080295
futachads keep winning

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Post your stuff. Get rated. Get crabbed. Rate others.
Put 3 works in a collage for a better rating

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>>8064232
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>>8080023
/pro/
>>8080034
/adv/
>>8080065
low /int/
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it would be good if you guys would justify your answers you know? like, stop binge rating and stop for a second to say WHY you rate something as low beg for example
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>>8080258
low /int/
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>>8080300
I am happy about that

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Aaaaaaaa!

My EYES! YOU BASTARD!

(Not responsible for self inflicted injuries)

This is a continuation from this previous thread >>8016016
(I'm not previous OP but to me this is HIS thread, maybe he's busy so I made it for him)
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>>8078762
I wasn’t banned for any of my art. Shockingly. It was because those retarded faggots over at /lit/ and stupid nigtards who sperg out if you mention certain authors.
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>>8078762
As long as Sparky and the Professor look18+, you can have them do anything. This ain't a blue board.
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>>8078902
COOL DOGGY! I had to do a quick illustration on picrel
>>8078915
Nice table! And clever design.
>>8079022
I love your work coon anon! Always so effortlessly sexy
>>8079319
Yeah, they're clearly grown ups, problem is if Sparky is "human enough", maybe I worry too much about it.
Don't worry I will resume the story for sure.
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I appreciate your positivity.
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>>8079976
Oh you mean the Naked Furries in a non Furry thread thing? Yes,but I declare this thread a Furry Friendly Space. Let orifices gape and be filled!

Post your artwork.

Also, any experience with copying and selling artworks?

>want to learn how to draw at 27
>Even if I try super hard I wouldn't even be good until 29
>Most artists online are like 19
>Art communities are full of high schoolers and super young adults
What's even the point? To impress people who aren't even allowed to drink? I should've just started drawing in middle school, now it's too late..
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>>8076532
his entire schtick is having hope and always believing theres something you can do, therapy is institutionalized coping. Of course there will be blackpillars pushing back, why does he deserve sanctuary from having his views challenged? Its like how SF6 is shit yet people shill it anyways, it is our DUTY as crabs to destroy their little delutions and shatter their hopes.
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>>8076310
I have the same feeling, and the only thing that's keeping me going is porn I desperately want to exist from series that forever reason lacks complete interest from drawfags.
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>>8077126
Life is all about coping until you die.
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>>8076310
>want to learn to draw at an older age
>dont want to put in the effort to draw

christ your and insufferable faggot just og generate some chat gpt images and post them to instagram
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>want to learn how to draw at 27
>Even if I try super hard I wouldn't even be good until 29

>want to learn how to draw at 38
>Even if I try super hard I wouldn't even be good until 40

>want to learn how to draw at 53
>Even if I try super hard I wouldn't even be good until 60

>want to learn how to draw at 80
>Even if I try super hard I wouldn't even be good until 91

>

>YWN be an artfag on 2004-2015 internet
Honestly seems like it would have been really fun and would have led to lots of good friends, but I could never draw for shit and now AIslop has taken over and all the cool art communities have been replaced with porn and lgbtranny rainbow shit.
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>>8080168
>40% of India had internet in 2025 and the percentage keeps rising
Good grief. English speaking websites should just ban everyone outside of English speaking countries. I engage enough with indians from their telemarketing and scam calls, I don't need to see more of them.
Not to mention all the weird larping they (and other non-english foreigners) do, like larping as extreme-right or left wingers, or running sigma male accounts, or whatever else.
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>>8080006
>tfw just being a beg with a tablet was enough to make a livable wage through commissions
>now need to be the second coming of Raffaele Monti to get more than 10 likes on xitter
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>>8080006
You think you do but you don’t. All of the software like photoshop and clip studio had way less features and were harder to use. All of the best digital artists back then got good via trad art before moving to digital. Also, this digital art shit only became uber popular in 2015 after a post about how Sakimichan’s patreon income was $10k a month went viral. If you weren’t drawing since childhood then you probably wouldn’t even be here if not for the influx of interest after that event.

The same thing also happened with software development around 2010 where it became common knowledge that Twitter and Facebook and Google programmers were making 6 figures so a lot of people decide to change careers to software dev.
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>>8080173
You still can get popular with dogshit art but you have to draw porn. For SFW there's no way to get popular without sucking a popular guy's dick for retweets though
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>>8080006
i sure hope you're out there trying to reach and connect with the people who are on the same wavelength as you and not wallowing in misery

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Previously on Real Housewives: >>8057339

>Look, there is no time to explain; take this pamphlet on the best practices here
1. Don't post too revealing works (especially porn). If you think it's too lewd, post a censored copy here and link to Catbox (https://catbox.moe) or any off-site that hosts images for your works. You may also link back to /b/.

2. Be smart, keep discussion to 2D Anime/Cartoon characters only. Do not post chiId photo references (legal or otherwise), and do not talk about issues regarding real children.

3. It is recommended to let the thread reach page 7 before starting a new one.

>Lolicon Artists Directory & History of Lolicon
https://load.blogs.allthefallen.moe/

Happy Halloween!
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Why are pedophiles allowed on this board?
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>>8080009
better ask why are they allowed to rule governments
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>>8079535
ohhh the court diviner has caught her
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>>8080153
Nyooo

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/asg/ don't look!
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>>8079739
posts like these are always funny, like there was anything special about 2016 anime, or 2006, etc for that matter
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>>8080078
I dunno, I got into anime for the shows targeted at adults, and they straight up just don't make those anymore.
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>>8079750
the writing in eurocomics is always awful, capeshit tier
the only thing that's better is the art but most of the time you get pretty panels that read poorly as a comic, because nobody who works in comics in the West likes to actually make comics
or they try to ape manga which is even worse
I fucking wish there were decent western comics but the way you go through a manga without getting bored is a lost art in the west, like every other skill
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>>8079760
You say that likes its a good thing lmfaooooooooooooooooooo. Soulless feak.
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>>8080170
There's a difference between common, niche, and shit taste. 90% of retards that say they have "niche" taste, but in actuality it's fucking shit. Which group are you in, anon?

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>What is /fag/?<
This is the Furry Art General thread, here we post everything related to kemono, furry, and animals alike.

>Rules & Guidelines<
Please refrain from flaming, causing drama or replying/feeding those who cause such.
This is a SFW thread only, please take caution so you don't get BANNED for posting NSFW art.
This general is NOT and NEVER will be affiliated with any discord servers, DO NOT click any of the discord links that are spammed here!
As always, don't be afraid to ask for critique!

>Resources<
https://www.lackadaisycats.com/ishkabibble.php
https://x6ud.github.io/
https://sketchfab.com/calacademy
https://sketchfab.com/uod_museums
https://sketchfab.com/osuecampus

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Sometimes I ask myself why do I put up with what I put up with
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Hellhound character design. Hairstyle ripped off of Nathan Explosion
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I may be cooking
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>>8080212
Fuck, wrong image

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>Display P3 claims it has more colors
>enable Display P3 preview in Clip Studio Paint
>colors changed to become nicer
>reddish shadows on skin look more beautiful, wow this is so cool now I can make more beautiful anime
>check color picker
>it's still 256 discrete values per RGB channel
>it did not increase to give me more values to account for the supposed "increased" "wider" gamut
I am in shock. So does this mean P3 is a scam or something? I cannot go back to sRGB now, the preview version looks much worse even if it is kind of scammy? Is there any point to it if uploading to Elon's site just makes the colors washed out again?
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>>8077674
A bit ago, back when I was messing around with a Ghidra MCP tool alongside Antigravity, I was working on modding Clip Studio Paint 4 to add an HSY' color picker (like the one in Krita), and a grayscale toggle keyboard shortcut that behaves like Krita's perceptual grayscale softproofing mode, which doesn't require a separate black color layer to check values. Would need to test it on the latest CSP release to make sure it can work though.

But lately, been working on using Claude Opus to help rewrite Krita to do as much stuff on the GPU as possible, while also optimizing startup times, loading times (especially with clone layers and fill layers), amongst other things. Since that is the software I primarily use, and I was baffled by how much faster Procraft/Procreate is. So far there's like around 20,000 lines of code (modified or otherwise) as a part of these changes.

Filters, drawing the actual canvas, perspective guides, and layer compositing is much faster on the GPU, but the work on porting the brush engine to the GPU so far has been minimal gains. Vulkan rendering is now an option alongside Metal, and you can pick the GPU used for rendering. I had a .kra file that had a bunch of clone layers and fill layers on it that took my Ryzen 7 9800X 3D like 104 seconds to load into, but with a bunch of the patches, it brings that down to 8 seconds. Time-lapse recordings now directly encode frames to a video file using ffmpeg and GPU encoding to save on space (I've had 20 hour projects that use up 60GB of JPG timelapse images and that's just unacceptable). I plan to test the GPU brush engine on an AMD FX 8350 setup to throw the absolute worst CPU I can at it.

Got any other suggestions on quality of life changes I could add?
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>>8080107
The worst thing about Krita is the brush engine in general. If you could get .abr format brushes to work 1:1, there would be much less reason to use CSP and PS.
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move along
having p3 display wont automatically improve your composition and fundamental skill
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>>8080112
>brush engine in general.
Kek, this is the most unhinged thing I've read in a while
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>>8077409
All you need to know for digital illustration is:
1) Just keep the sRGB preview toggled on at all times, (2) and when it's time to export you imbed the sRGB profile to the exported files.

3) Also get something like a SpyperPro to get accurate colors and values. You WILL not get them right otherwise.

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/lwad/#2

Previous: >>7849114

I've obtained a prescription for (generic) Adderall and wanted to experiment on how it affected learning to draw. I opened this thread to document my progress and for everyone else's observation / amusement.

My goal with this thread is to simply take an Adderall and draw for at least a couple hours a day and post the results. Realistically I may miss some days. The hope is to keep these threads ongoing until I'm either satisfied with the progress documented, or I crash out.

Probable Questions:
>Why?
Whether or not medicating has a significant effects on learning, if it only has a partial effect on some related disciplines that go into drawing, or it arguably had no major effect at all, I want this thread to feed into any discussion as a case example. I also chose /ic/ since I know this board doesn't pull back punches.
>Are you actually diagnosed with ADD / ADHD?
Yes, ADD. I believe inattentive. Been diagnosed since 2003 but never treated long-term.
>How old are you?
31.

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>>8077166
The right eye is shifted too far to the side of the face for the angle of the head
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Tried eyeballing this staircase I like, but I for the left building too big at first and the stairs too wide. Later tried corrections with ruler.

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Thank ya. My reference was looking down at an angle, so trying to make them my upright instead messed stuff up.
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Easiest way to save it was adding a third story, so the scale is a little off.
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Turning this into value practice. Doing such fine hatching is really hard and I should practice it on more simple stuff.
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One more night, falling asleep real hard (finished playing the Ocarina of Time remake) (it was solid but I got nitpicks).

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>>8080132

Recharge your art batteries with some inspiring content. A place to post and discuss interesting non-tutorial videos about art and artists. Documentaries, general art culture, esoterica, and instructional videos provided they are unique in what they show or are uniquely inspiring. Please avoid artTuber content as they are agents of the antichrist

A couple to start off:
4 Artists Paint 1 Tree
https://youtu.be/9Dg8w6gk4cE?si=kQDpMrZ1PQJTotHh

The Comic Book Greats With Todd McFarlane Part 3
https://youtu.be/ZiVFa3AufQI?si=aQjIUV8DkahZsX29

The Comic Book Greats Sergio Aragones
https://youtu.be/yzac_3Y_Tng?si=hu50IGZftnPXHtTA

The Confessions of Robert Crumb
https://youtu.be/rTOM6qzmjYY?si=3V5wcZ6LY79XkqkE
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I like this thread.
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The most brutal redpill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyiUAagEt2E
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>>8077229
>The most brutal redpill
That being chinese sucks?
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Roger Scruton - Why Beauty Matters (2009)
https://vimeo.com/549715999
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>>8020228
I got a couple that scratch an itch

How to Actually Finish More Art
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR38nfQOXLE

1993 interview re: Paul Rand and Steve Jobs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb8idEf-Iak

Gabe Newell: On Productivity, Economics, Political Institutions, and the Future of Corporations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td_PGkfIdIQ

The Most Hated (and loved) Architecture in History | Brutalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhdIEq_h0es


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