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can I ever be taken seriously as an artist if I draw kinky stuff like picrel for example?

I wanna make serious comics and try and get published, but I also wanna start a twitter account and draw some borderline nsfw comic strips with anthro girls, orc girls, amazons, etc.

If I wanna break into comics and make serious art, should I stay away from doing stuff like that? Not ever gonna draw nsfw, but I'll probably skirt the line if I make the account
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>>8034121
i wouldnt take you seriously because of the quality of your art, but honestly i jerk off to worse both fetish and quality wise. anyways, shit lineweight, zero variance. shit overlaps like where the shoulder connects the the arm on the guy top right, dudes got pancake shoulders or something. hands also dont bend like his right hand does. alot of your issues would be solved by looking in the mirror and copying so you dont have much of an excuse. also alot of it looks heavily referenced from templates, which is a huge crutch and something you need to ditch asap. you could certainly be popular with this artstyle but you would lose the most important thing in the world, my respect.
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>>8037438
It doesn't matter. Whenever he gets dogged on, it'll always be brought up. He will always be known as the inflation guy.

Sexual taboos are just embarrassing. You relinquish your dignity.
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Nowadays, it’s self-employment or death as an artist. It’s pointless to prepare yourself for a future that no longer exists for 99.9% of all artists.
Draw nsfw art because it's what you want. No need to worry about giving some HR lady the -ick years later.
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>>8038373
No it doesn't. A massive number of illustrators/animators have made porn either privately or publicly at some point.
The trick is to be professional and to also just have separate portfolios, which you should have even for your sfw stuff anyway. Portraits aren't going to help you get hired as an environment artist, mecha and car drawings aren't going to get you hired as a creature designer, and showing off a library of body horror eldritch abominations isn't usually going to go well with a children's book publisher, unless they're doing a resurrection of Goosebumps I suppose.
The much bigger problem right now is that the entire media industry is currently on fire and no one really knows what the future landscape is going to look like.
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>>8038465
>The much bigger problem right now is that the entire media industry is currently on fire and no one really knows what the future landscape is going to look like.
its going back to being for madmen or the wealthy. same as it ever was.

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>>7989721
Why are you allowed to have 2 threads?
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>>8031466
He’s been posting here longer than almost anyone else, he’s earned it
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Whats the fastest way to keep consistent sprite scale across multiple sprites and backgrounds?
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>>8013740
Did anyone notice this?
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Previous Thread: >>7984957

If you are a beginner, please use the /beg/ general.
>>>/ic/beg

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others! Don't take anything personal!
Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 2000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

>/ic/ Resources/Reference/Downloads/Links:

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/

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struggling with these eyes. shes supposed to be looking off to the side but i just dont think it looks right?
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i dont know what to study.
i want to make better bodies and faces. but how
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My friends Sonic inflation art :)
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>>8038101
Really nice.
I think what you need to fix is minute,
somehing having to do with the shape of the eye in this angle and the right eye being a bit too far?

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Gonna motivate myself into drawing daily so i am starting this thread for records.
Today i did some elipses and boxes and peter griffin by memory as a treat.
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Cringe attention seeker really thinks im gonna click links to see his shitty scribblings. Yeah OK nigger. How about get some sketchbooks and fill them up all by yourself
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>>8036132
Tell that to the mods
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Random guy
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Big K
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Does comparing yourself to more skilled artists all the time actually stunts your growth and love for drawing, or is it totally valid if you're willing to catch up to the by sheer brute force (as in, drawing 5+ hours per day and following strict study schedules)?
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>>8038140
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>>8038358
only people who started before 2010 can say this comfortably. Including me. We were lucky to be born before social media.
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>>8038389
>>8038358
jesus christ, you know you can draw and not engage with social media, right?
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>>8038389
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>>8038400
make me

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it's been a week and i already feel like quitting, nsfw is a scam

will i make it if i keep going, guyz :*I(
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>>8038346
no, please continue drawing NSFW. there's a major underrepresentation of erotic art that's palatable to the fetish-averse.
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>>8038386
I don't know what to draw, though. What would you want me to draw?
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>>8038366
The shit content notwithstanding, these numbers aren't particularly insane. Good organic posts reach these numbers easily.
Whether the alogirthm picks up your post is a matter of luck to a very large extent.
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>>8038388
wholesome HMoFA
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>>8038395
Hmm. HMoFA is cute, i'll give it a try.

does anyone know a good art software for drawing with a mouse?
looking for something with strong line stabilization or vector tools
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>>8034847
shut the fuck up lmao
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>>8034847
You can try out Krita for free.
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>>8034919
The Dynamic Brush Tool is nice to use with a mouse.
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>>8034859
bodied that brushoid

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i need one
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>>7927695

personally looking for hamptons drapery course, packs of models from extreme angles and also in clothing.

suprised noone uploaded scott eaton's bodies in motion stuff yet also. His anatomy course comes with one but its outdated.

ps if you dont have picrel physique youre ngmi as an artist. This is ancient knowledge though. iykyk.
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>>8035509
thank
your rewards
https://gofile.io/d/Y9bTtg3l
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>>8023004
any packs of men/women in business (casual) or for that matter just normal day to day clothes?
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>>8035970
https://gofile.io/d/m3royKTi
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>>8038208
Thank you, anon, already have it, wish there were more. AND SHE IS NOT NAKED WHY.
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>>8038341
https://gofile.io/d/b2wqoMAF

Taking a break? Drink some water, do some stretches, share some thoughts.
Just keep them art related.
This is a thread for venting about and discussing your own personal drawing-related issues. Please keep posts on topic. Do not discuss community drama, do not link to twitter threads, and do not discuss non-art topics.
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>>8038396

We all start somewhere, Miku.
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>>8038403
Oh so the retweet is giving me high profile followers but they're not retweeting the posts, just following and liking.

But the most important thing here is I'm figuring out my workflow. That's the biggest success today.
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>>8038364
If the artist that retweeted you is the kind that retweets all kind of trash all day, you'll barely get any views because his retweets get deboosted.
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>>8038585
I'm just happy my posts aren't going into a void anymore and my mutuals are building up.
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I am so done with art desu, i hate how fake everything is, i hate the process and i hate how shallow practicing different ways to draw the same shit is

art has nothing to do with my innate talents, but i got sabotaged by a million things as a kid its fucking crazy, man fuck all of this, i dont even enjoy, you know, the feeling of success in art, its so sooo much weaker than in sports

I’ve put together a collection of interesting images to help you find new ideas for your creative projects.
I have lots of them but feel free to contribute if you want to.
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>>8038327
imagine the smell
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People with 10k followers and beyond, how long did it take you to grow a following online starting from 0 and what would you realistically recommend to people aiming for the same goal through sharing art online?

Also looking for more infos on places like Bluesky, Newgrounds or Pixiv since Twitter doesn't seem like an accurate way of measuring how big your actual audience is.
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>>8034000
exhibit A
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>>8034000
You don't have to draw for others but don't go in expecting to grow a big account out of it. That is what we call narcissism. Feel free to post your hecking scrimblo OCs into the void for eternity, there's nothing stopping you from doing that if that's what makes you happy. But if you want a SUCCESSFUL account it's time to start thinking about people other than yourself and how to appeal to the algorithm. You don't have to draw just 'slop', there has got to be at least a few media or niches you enjoy, or you can tailor stuff you already draw to have algorithmic appeal.

If you want to achieve success without having to fill out a job application, this is the reality you have to accept.
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>>8032024
>Detach your ego from yourself and recognize that the things you draw for yourself are highly unlikely to appeal to other people. An artist who acknowledges this and draws for other people will go farther than anyone else. Many artists are narcs who thinks the world revolves around them to the point that they're above appealing to the algorithm (nobody is above the algorithm)
disagree, i think it is more about finding people who like the same stuff as you and relate to what you make
your job is to find where these people are, what tags are they under what sites are they more likely to be on
no algo =/= easier
pixiv is good for growing an audience and getting love as a smaller artist but newgrounds requires u to be picked for a special program by others in said program to really start getting traction
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>>8033705
the gameplan is to turn the fame into money
the steps to get there are gonna be different for everyone
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>>8038156
>newgrounds
I don't know anything about using Newgrounds but I've heard from others that it's fairly easy to get picked for that special program thing. (Assuming you're talking about 'scouting'?)

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Who is the Jonathan Blow of art?
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>>8034672
He's Phil Fish Lite, if Phil Fish had enough self-awareness to shut the fuck up when necessary.
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>>8033534
kinda right except that braid, but mainly the witness, are in this day still in rotation whenever any serious discussion about games comes up, braid for its historical significance, the witness because people genuinely think its one of the best puzzle games of all time
call him a pretentious "blow"hard (hehe) all you want but i very much disagree with the phenomenon of downplaying all the achievements of annoying people
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>>8034628
He kinda had to write about him or else none of us would've known the guy, I didn't and I've lurked /v/ since like 2014
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>>8033455
it insists upon itself
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>>8033534
>>8033588
He's like the Alan Moore or Terry Gililam or maybe even Hayao Miyazaki of video games.
As for 2D and fine art in general, I'm not sure.

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>>8033582
fuck off bitch ass Gabe the schlub
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>>8033923
back to basics
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>>8033910
what's the issue
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>>8019611
oh DAMN?
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>>8033923
Even with crayola colored pencils and markers?

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Anyone else desperately making art for money and feel like a lying soulless capitalist or imposter syndrome from it? I would say I enjoy making art and often am inspired making it, but this thirst for money and utter desperation makes me question my motivations. I also wonder if my like of it is propped up by my antidepressants, since I didn't like painting prior to taking them. Another concern I have is that if you were to ask me to do studies, learn figure drawing, etc, I would think you're crazy and "it's not that serious". I practiced these things as a youngling but now I feel like it's way too tryhard and would cement my identity into the artist territory way too much, almost like a too scary acceptance of the artist identity. To actually actively practice instead of making paintings for money just seems insane to me. I've gotten through some specific hurdles:
>art has no meaning: now I feel as if it does have it
>I don't like painting: post antidepressants i rather enjoy it
>art is low status: I really don't care anymore and I don't think it is, in fact it's kind of chad not to partake in the rat race

Another issue is that I make cutesy princesses mainly because I find them hot and my (hypothetical) female audience will think I'm expressing some pure and beautiful femininity, so I'd feel like I'm lying to them about my motivations.

Either way I'd appreciate feedback on this issue and if anyone else is in a similar situation. The reason why I'm doing this is because I have a useless major and art is something I'm decent at and you can make some money out of it while not being a slave or doing some gay job with no meaning or purpose.

Of course thought, to some extent it's even more fascistic to enslave your souls expression to the capitalist market for survival, so to some degree doing art means selling your soul even harder than being an office worker for example, where you're not actually supposed nor expected to enjoy working there.
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>>8035496

"capitalism" is when people make money unethically. doing honest business, paying your employees well, and charging reasonable prices are not capitalism. is there any other definition that i'm unaware of?
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>>8032897
No it’s fine. You can make art for money. It’s ok.
You should get off the Jew pills though, they’ll poison your mind
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fuck you OP. it's because of this sentiment that art has no respect from the general public. we should just do things for free as a form of self-expression? that we should consider ourselves fortunate to be able to provide charity in the form of art? i don't event want to express myself in my art.
the idea of art as free in terms of expression and in fee was created simply as a way for avant-garde artists to deride others for making money so they can secure the money themselves. in the same way, "capitalism" was just a strawman by leftists so they can seize control themselves and do the exact same thing that they accuse the other side of doing. it doesn't exist in the way it was formed up and continues to be conceived of.
but i can understand why you feel that way. you don't even love art. training to better your craft is how you show love to your craft and respect to it and your audience.
>>8032923
very indian post. YUCK
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>>8038207
>very indian post. YUCK
So I assume your not willing to show him your bobs and vigeen?
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>>8038207
ive no issue with people who love art making money out of it, the issue is im not sure i do and i feel bad about it, but the way you type if you tried to make money from art i wouldnt judge you in the slightest, it's more of a me problem in my case, ive no issue with people making money from art whatsoever


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