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If you're on a break after drawing and feel like sharing what's on your mind about what you're working on, the industry, things that excite you about art, or anything that frustrates you about drawing or the process of art then grab a cup of water and chill out here. Remember to keep the discussion on-topic as much as possible.

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>>6957192
I've seen plenty of art I've adored but I didn't have anything insightful to say about it
I've also seen absolute shit I didn't reply to because the anon was beyond help
I've seen people post competent work that didn't need any critique
I've seen people post boring work that didn't inspire a reaction at all.
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>>6963746
People also don't say thanks on this very board. Plenty of people have stopped drawing in the OC redraw thread because of it.
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>>6957185
I really like to use sports anon. Sports and athletics gives really good gesture drawings. Golf is great to practice twisting, shot-put for balance and weight practice, boxing for arms and twisting too. Pick a random sport and draw some people doing it, then pick another.
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>>6963753
You are a desperate passionless loser who wants internet points and they are gonna sniff that out instantly.
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>>6963295
Use the soft lead pencil with a light touch on the paper. That'll help.

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What are some anime character designs you would personally consider good?
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>>6963760
no!
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>>6963291
Magic Knight Rayearth has an intoxicatingly good aesthetic. From the characters, to the furniture, architecture, world. It's all beautiful.
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>>6963476
>writing
well we are talking about solely design, she created the proto waifu I think

Toriyama is much more than dbz,

>>6963471
I feel that most of his same faces are given to main characters, thats his heroic standard trunks = dqXI Luminary for example, but I can see more variety in his larger worlds works like dragon quest and dragon ball (og)

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Does anyone here have any idea where to find a program/tool to this type of colored background ? the LISA series over-ultilyzes this style of background countless times in their games ever since i was a fan for a good couple of years, it was only natural i eventually started to wonder how the vissuals and aesthetics are made, and starting to recreate my own, specially recently ive been thinking alot in create a fangame myself, i would be grateful for an answer thank you
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>>6964407
it's called a gradient. it can be done with any modern art software.

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What do artists usually use? I want to have a site for recieving art requests but I don't know which one to choose. Ones with a mechanic similar to tumblr's asks, such as curiouscat or retrospring, but I'd like an overview. Also I've seen some korean site I can't remember that was basically an anonymous chatroom but the owner/artist themselves wasn't anonymous. Is there a western version of something like that?
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Why am i getting filtered by this tutorial
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>>6964290
Maybe I want to make actual paintings instead of McDonalds'-tier assembly line pictures?
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>>6964318
what stupid boomer crap are you painting??
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>>6964318
No one said you can't do that, and you don't need to be defensive about it. Just know that most artists like you can't even make as much as a McDonalds fry cook.
Artists who do commercial art for clients do have to make multiple versions of something often. I'm answering a question, I'm not telling you what to do.
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>>6964318
In addition to >>6961947, greyscale allows you to see value contrast separate from hue. If you don't work in greyscale from the start, you can also use a greyscale filter to isolate the values after the fact.

A place for sharing examples and references with those fellow anons currently struggling to avoid the pitfall of same-face syndrome in their work (or who just want to learn to draw anything other than Caucasian-looking people for a change), without accidentally stumbling into minstrel-show era racist caricature territory.

Please, as a personal challenge, try to keep the /pol/tard shitposting at a minimum (I know you can do it).
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>>6964083
>*how to translate typical Black African features in a stylized manner
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>>6963845
It's way more realistic than what some of them actually pump out.
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>>6964080
You don't know anything about boxing then. Pacquiao's best moments happened at welterweight. One of the lower weight divisions that does have fantastic black representation with the all time champion of champions Sugar Ray Robinson. The contemporary undefeated record holder Floyd Mayweather Jr. Two of the "Four Kings" Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns. And early modern era legend Henry Armstrong.
It was also the home of fellow hispanics Oscar de la Hoya and Juan Manuel Marquez, and white Mexican Saul Alvarez currently considered a top 5 p4p among active fighters.
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>>6961837
"The Cartoon Circle Climbs the Mountains for Double-Ninth" (漫畫界重陽登高圖 "Manhuajie Chongyang dengao tu", 1936), a double-page coloured cartoon from the weekly pictorial magazine 'Shanghai Manhua' (上海漫畫), consisting in a group portrait of 1930s cartoonists by Chinese artist Wang Zimei.
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As an anti-sjw hivemind euro, my only racist position is against immigrants that fuck up economies, cultures and spreaded fucking drugs to a point never seen before. It's quite humorous how before it became a trend, I've been often the only guy talking with blacks and/or homos at social occasions and whatnot, just to see in the decade later the same people that was silently disgusted by them jump in the "rights for everyone!" bandwagon. On socials, because they're still scared shitless by crossing a nigger or a sandass on the streets.
This said, what I really find hard to understand is how american """blacks""" pigeon holed themselves into this pseudo culture where you basically act like a fucking ape, from the way you dress, to the name you give to your children. I mean what the fuck, I worked with multiple actual African niggers and the majority wasn't even vaguely near the level of retardation of that. What in the fuck? American blacks were this fucking close to be integrated in the society they wanted to be part of so long, what's the meaning of this cultural 180? Why?

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How do you sculpturally feel the form while you're painting so that you don't require line art to paint over? I know how to do it with lines using the Vilppu thing of defining volume with volumetric lines that create the form as you draw the gesture, but what is the painting equivalent?
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>>6964279
I'm also interested in an answer to this. When laying down or blocking in the forms I can achieve a Shinkawa look, but it's too vague and doesn't feel solid untill I go in and try to render chunk by chunk. I'd like to lay down something that feels more finished sooner and not be a rendermonkey
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>>6964279
when you are painting you are still drawing, instead of putting down lines the borders between colours are your lines, wrap your brush strokes around the form

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>Nothing worth having is easy
Yes
But is drawing a skill worth having in this day and age?
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All sorts of things to do that qualify as art.

Game modding. Photo bashing. Comics of all stripes. So many toys to try,and so many venues to show their results in. Put out a story,and the world can see it. But one must need to create,and not merely want to.
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>>6960839
In realistic terms, simply no.
One could argue that it's a kind of skill that becomes useful only if tied with the ability to sell it. Meaning, drawing alone has always been completely useless
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>>6960839
>But is drawing a skill worth having in this day and age?
Only if it's meaningful to you. One day you and I will die and nothing will matter, until then, make sure to do enjoyable things.
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>>6960839
Only if you have artistic goals. No AI is not an good option. You might think it will save you time and crunch out what you want. But what you get is pretty subpar AT BEST.
Learning to draw does not take decades like some would like to have you believe, if you spend 1-3 hours a day studying books regarding observation, perspective and construction you will mog most of deviantart in within a year.
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>>6963057
please give me more... my magnum opus will take at least 30

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>There is one thing not to do, and that is simply to drift along with the daily routine, making no extra effort. You will soon find yourself middle-aged, having done nothing more than routine jobs, and being little farther along than you were years ago. The extra effort is the difference between the great mass of mediocre artists and the comparatively small group of very good ones.
>And in Art, study can never stop. You will find sketches galore in the studio of the good man, with the paint quite fresh. The mediocre artist's sketches are old and dusty.
>I have seen so many middle-aged artists still hoping, whose samples are frayed at the edges, and thumb-marked with time. Sometimes it has been a matter of years since they sat down and actually did something to give their hopes any promise. They are plodding their lives away at something they hate, and doing nothing about it. These are the men who never seem to have had a chance. The truth is, they never seized a chance.
- Andrew Loomis, Creative Illustration

/Studies/ General is all about improving your art and never settling for mediocrity. Every artist is a student, forever and ever. Anybody, from beginner to pro, can post here. Any style is accepted. Critiques are welcome and encouraged. Let's make this a productive thread!

Read the fucking sticky: http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/

Recommended Resources:
https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

(Previously known as /msg/ - Master Studies General!)
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statue studies
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Can someone please critique this piece I made? I think I can make my edges even better. I'm using only 1 layer and 1 kind of brush
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>>6964256
OK now do it without tracing and color picking, so you actually learn something.
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>>6964390
I didn't trace or color pick.

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The year is almost over
Post (You)r artprogress
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>>6958331
How much did you charge for those out of curiosity?
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>>6963355
I don't think that's the case
2023 is much better than 2021
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>>6944618
ok
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>>6964135
good gains
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I don't know what I'm doing.
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>>6964389
you have good taste

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How do you become popular online via your own original characters and creations rather than making fan arts and such, regardless of how skilled you are?
Plenty of people on Twatter managed to make it this way and they get makeship partnership, loads of fan arts of their characters and, on rare occasions, even merchandising occasions.
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The little black line a little to the right of the halfway point is my avatar. That's how big this was.
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Sims are funny things.

It's a cube,and the game engine renders a gentle wavy ocean beyond the invisible borders of the sim. Clever people managed to discover that stuff could be shoved out beyond these confines,and someone is making a living selling faux islands and archipelagos to see out in the surrounding ocean. The side stuff extends out past these boundaries, and no one ever saw them.
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There was a garden beneath the dance floor, and one would have to walk past the shops to get to it. I wanted alien plants and I am sure that others would want them too.
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And,lastly,the animation I used as part of my store sign Strange Conjurations. Laurel and Hardy dancing was my best selling item. I carved it out of bad GIFs and it's delightfully absurd.
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>>6959993
arrrr, i had a comic once. a bear stole me glory.

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Discuss some drawing technology and tablets.
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>>6964314
fuck you
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>>6964324
>linking to the garbage wacum shill thread
kill yourself aaron
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>>6964314
I don't have a switch
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>>6964347
this is an aaron thread too. He can't stand if anyone else is able to make /dtg/.
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Winter is coming edition

This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware.

Recommended tablets:
>Pen tablets (non display)
Wacom Intuos pro
Huion Inspiroy
Xencelab Pen Tablet
XP Pen Deco

>Display tablets
Wacom Cintiq pro
Huion Kamvas
XP-Pen Artist

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Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

Do not read anything into pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.
If you have any additional questions, ask them.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills.

Recommended tablets:

>Screenless:
Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom

>Display:
Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite

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>>6964300
I have both of them. The Deco Pro is completely fine. For less than half of the cost you get a bigger active area.

The only difference I can feel pen wise is that Wacom has a lower initial activation force. So if you are extremely light handed and you try your very best you can get the xp pen to not register a stroke even if the tip is actively touching the tablet. Does any of that actually happen in real use? Not really. Just something to consider. No fishhooking or other memes are present like the resident schizo would like you to believe.

If you have neither I suggest the Deco Pro just for the size alone. I can tell you outright that the Deco Pro Gen 2 is the 2nd best screenless tablet line up.
They are supposed to refresh the Intuos Pro line next year so I’m looking out for that. Hopefully they update the design to match the Deco Pro and remove the useless buttons.
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>>6964325
Of course you're going to say that, aren't you shill?
Your tablet is garbage.
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>>6964325
thanks anon, very insightful.
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>>6964327
My paycheck from shilling cracked
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>>6964300
Don't think of it as comically big. Your monitor is doubtless far bigger-and so too would all but the least expensive screen tablet alternatives be. A tablet that size shouldn't be seen as anything other than the most suitable for its purpose. I haven't used an XP-Pen tablet yet but the largest size Gen 2 I'd just stumbled on the other day interests me. It definitely looks like a step in the right direction in every way, provided it doesn't have any conspicuous input or long term reliability problems.

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is there any reason to draw if youre not gonna show anyone your art? social media is complete AIDS
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>>6964354
maybe because you has patience. I'm a beginner and I can't draw any other expressions that aren't this or in this same style. I'm not joking
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>>6964356
*you had patience. Typo.
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>>6964356
Have you tried drawing something...yknow...fun? A crummy looking cat driving a crummy looking lambo? A crude version of yourself and your special someone enjoying a day at a simple looking beach?
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>>6964356
if you can't have fun drawing ugly expressions, then i'm sorry, but you don't actually enjoy drawing. you enjoy looking at pretty pictures. if i could instantly transfer unto you the ability to draw whatever your minds eye can dream up, you'd still be miserable and hate the process because you don't enjoy the pure, basic activity of making marks on a board.
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>>6964379
Well it is fun sometimes. It's just that I really can't make anything else.

what do you think about ancient japanese art
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>ancient
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>>6957582
>>6957593
The conventional elongated faces are a bit of an acquired taste, but their level of appeal really depends on the artist.

Personally, I find the faces in Kitagawa Utamaro's prints to be quite cute (pic related).
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>>6963246
Really enjoyed these posts. Thanks for sharing anons
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>>6963322
>It's a reminder of how what seems simple to us now were difficult
That's and endless list:invention of the zero, Einstein's space-time, Newton's law of mechanics, and so forth

> I just always found it dull
You have to appreciate it in context: forget anything about Western art, remove photography & the Internet. You come back home, of which every bit was carefully handcrafted, pick a handcrafted mug that your obedient wife quickly fill with some perfectly brewed tea, and contemplate a small painting with vivid colors.

>>6962628
Gosh that's awful.
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