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krita fucking sucks and I'm tired pretending it doesn't
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>>7422223
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>>7422223
skill issue
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>>7422223
Yes but it's the best we got to keep suscription services at bay.
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>>7422514
That's exactly why "they" attack this amazing piece of software so viciously."They" can not allow it to even exist.
Krita is a fucking miracle.
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>>7422223
It's all I've known... it's sure better than gimp, and it has a lot of nice brushes.
Marco Bucci said if he didn't already have decades of experience with photoshop, he'd switch to Krita.
I'd be interested to hear what its defects are, and what's the cheapest program I can switch to that doesn't have those problems... unless you have a toaster and are complaining about performance.
I saw someone yesterday say Krita is 'heavy'. Well yeah, it won't run great on your $250 Lenovo Thinkpad or w/e, but it's fine for a desktop pc
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>>7422223
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>>7422519
At this point picking on "performance" issues obviously exposes ill intended bias. Any average device will run Krita perfectly fine, if you want a bloated "heavy" software nothing tops PS.
About those "defects", the main one would be the text editor, it's has some limitations, but it works perfectly fine. That's the whole -issue-, "it doesn't have that one extra thingy". Like I hate that I can't move objects or selections with the arrows, or that in the color picking dock the icon to clean the used palette of colors is placed right next to them and sometimes you click on it by mistake and that's a bummer. But the software works just perfect, even better than the other programs. The real "problem" is that IT IS FREE. "They" can't have that. And they will go to war to destroy the free and independent beauty that is Krita.
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>>7422223
Its free though.
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>>7422551
As is gutter water.
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>>7422563
Nah, there's a lot of laws about that stuff.
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>>7422545
>I hate that I can't move objects or selections with the arrows
I just tried it, if you push ctrl+t first you can move with the arrow keys. But I guess that extra step would be annoying if you have muscle memory from a different program, or you're using tablet buttons
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>>7422519
I think they meant that it gets in its own way. You can change settings, sure. In default settings, for one, Ctrl+Z both undoes a previous action and moves the canvas. It's not as fucked up as GIMP, but there are other free programs that are more intuitive.
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>>7422570
You must have it quite rough then huh, godspeed bro.
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>>7422519
>I'd be interested to hear what its defects are
the text tool SUCKS but they're aware and working on it
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how can you even do complex halftones and screentones in krita.

this is why clip studio paint keeps rising
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>>7422223
krita is so much nicer after pain tool sai
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>>7422545
Is this samefagging or is it just Krita devs lurking this board?
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>>7423214
as an sai fag why should I use krita
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>>7422223
Nah it's good.
Photoshop literally new versions are cancer.
Older versions don't allow you to bind you keys with ctrl or alt. So if you want to draw and just mash "Z" it won't let you in Krita this is perfectly okay + shit ton of other good shortcuts. + It's free. Yes it's not CSP but it's good enough.
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>>7423227
*fuck typo won't allow you to bind without
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I've been using Krita for almost 10 years. Doubters, tell me what I should "upgrade" to.
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>>7422514
Best, you say?
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>>7423230
As an avid Krita hater, if you like Krita and you feel it's capable of what you want to do then there's no need to swap to anything else.
Retarded ass program though.
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>>7423226
why should i persuade you
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>>7423242
because I'm asking nicely and am doing that puppy eyes thing and I'm stuck using a pirated version of sai 1
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>>7423249
SAI is pretty good tho.
I still use Krita because im used to it by now.
Hell i would bought SAI but 35$ so fuck it i guess.
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is there a way to sort your brushes manually?
hotkey them without that retarded wheel?
do i really have to overwrite them every time with that -draw your icon, tee hee- shit to keep changes between the sessions?
why the hell there is like 20 selection tools and only one transform that holds all the liquify, scaling, wrapping inside. and move is a separate tool? what?
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>>7423254
Create new tag then assign to tag.
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>>7423257
i did, and now there is like 5 erasers in diffirent places. why the fuck cant i just drag them around?
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>>7423259
Yeah i don't think it's possible to drag them only bind them to keyboard with Tools>Scripts>Ten Brushes
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>someone gave me CSP as a present some time ago
>still using Krita
Maybe I should try to make a drawing from scratch in CSP, just for fun. However, I'm a little too lazy to learn how to use that program.
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>>7423306
aww say ty to that friend again
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its all distraction and procrastination.
only software that matters is you, and this is what actually sucks in most cases.
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>>7422223
no shit? the only ones saying it doesn't are Stockholm syndrome and coping shitters
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>>7423306
use csp and you'll never look back at krita.
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>>7423306
Nothing is more fun than drawing in krita.
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>>7423317
He's a client, but I also think of him as a friend. I always thank him for giving me the opportunity to work with him.
>>7423326
My favorite thing about Krita is being able to do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQdx6H9BIGs
After that, you can easily separate each color into a different layer with another feature. Can I do this in CSP? I remember asking this same question in another thread a long time ago, and an anon told me I could just use the paint bucket tool, which is kind of stupid. Not only is it not the same, but it takes more work and you get messier results.
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>>7422223
I wish it had a bigger community. The nice thing about CSP, PS, and Procreate is that it's easy to find a brush you want instead of having to make your own. Also comic tools would be nice.
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>>7422223

p h o t o s h o p
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>>7423372
Can you even pirate a version thats not 10 years out of date
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>>7423384
Nah. No even worth it btw
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>>7422516
Krita has attacked other software with their shitposts on twitter.
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>>7422223
where the fuck is the csp crack without the chinkvirus
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>>7423421
As somebody who cares deeply about twitter posts and the professionalism and decorum of my art free software's public relations team this concerns me greatly.
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>>7423421
BULLSHIT. Krita is free, and it is already better than the competition, there's no motive at all to shit on anyone else. It's all corporation false flags trying to smear the most chill community in the artistic software scene. Kritabros are in paradise, but the nigger-jeets are trying to destroy that free and independent paradise at the order of their sheckelstein masters.
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>>7422246
I look like that and say that.
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Paintstorm is really nice…
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>>7422223
yeah it kinda does but i still use it and have done for about 3 years now
its pretty good for animation tbf
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>>7423531
More like PAINstorm, amirite?
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I use CSP and Sai, it's enough for me
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>>7423384
>>7423385

genp

there. just search that and you'll get all your need. You're Welcome.
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>>7423577
You hate freedom, we get it
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>>7423598
They have that slave mindset.
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>>7423598
I have money
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>>7423617
cuck maxxing. t-take my money m-master
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>>7423384
yeah (rutracky my beloved) but you dont need one
ive been painting with ps 2018 since actual 2018, and it hasnt needed an update
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>>7423629
tfw stuck with cs4 from 2008 because its the only one I could find
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>>7423632

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m0nkrus, 2022 v23.5.0.669, for windows, multilingual but will probably default to russian so google around how to fix that
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>>7423384
all the last Photoshop version are available pirated.
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>>7422514
csp is still a one time payment.
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>>7423663
Krita is free already. Why pay for any other lesser crap?
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>>7423663
all the last versions of csp are also pirated
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>>7422223
I like Krita because it can paint in HDR.
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>>7422223
Krita is like interns / newcomers to an already established market and their only value is 'free' and 'good enough'. If you're already proficient in certain apps, that isn't enough value to justify the loss of opportunity from trying to learn its antics while also trying to get your projects running.
>huh why should we get interns? We'll just get our usual contractors who'd get the job done.
>"but they're FREE and GOOD ENOUGH!"
>yeah but we need to have one of our employee supervise them so they don't fuck up
>"BUT THEY'RE FREE!!"

And Kritafags calling this software amazing ITT isn't helping selling it. It's like a youtuber calling Honey amazing because they get sponsored by it
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>>7424310
But Krita actually IS amazing. Why do that make you seethe so much?
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>>7423629

I've been using cs2 until I updated to win11 it's so buggy on win11 but manage to get cs6 to work on it. You don't really need much to start digital painting. I've tried all the free apps and CSP but It just doesn't feel right. I'm sure it's a good app but I've been using PS for so long it just feels right. The shortcut, the layer functions is just nice.
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>>7424310
okay i was on board until the end, what the fuck is your problem with honey
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>>7422223
a bad carpenter blames his tools
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>>7424664
Try Krita you won't regret it.
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>>7424668
Yeah but only a retard tries to build shit with broken tools
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>>7424714
>broken tools
Yes, like your brain.
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>krita is overall shit and horrible interface
>csp laggy as shit
>PS is subscription slop model


Paint tool sai 2 is the true king
>Very lightweight
>one-time payment
>no brush lag
>made by only one guy
>best brush engine in the market
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I remember FireAlpaca getting a lot of attention a few years ago. Anyone have experience with it?
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>>7424739
>one-time payment
>Versus Krita (FREE, LIGHTWEIGHT, AND AMAZING)
Oh, what should I choose? Let me think...
> FREE, LIGHTWEIGHT, AND AMAZING
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>>7424740
Is it free?
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>>7424714
>a bad carpenter blames his tools
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>>7424746
Looks to be
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>>7423665
krita is fucking dogshit.
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>>7424667
>he doesn't know
honey being owned by super mega evil corp paypal unsurprisingly has shady scummy business practices that fuck over anyone that advertises for it. They replace affiliate links with their own so they get the money from a sale, and any cashback you get is pennies compared to what paypal gets.
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>>7422223
why is krita bad? no memes
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>>7424879
krita is faggot shit software that has
>muh customization!!!!
but nothing inherently functional. it's for gnu linux faggot codemonkeys
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>>7424879
>>7424904
Only talented Draw-Fags love Krita. If you want to do some Photobashing or play with a million filters and AI assistants you better stay with PS or some other paid bloatware like that.
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>>7424904
so you can't "Just draw" in crita, correct?
>>7424908
so it's PS faggots that are butthurt, gotcha
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>>7423249
based fellow pirated version of sai 1 chad
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>>7423249
>a pirated version of sai 1
then just buy a license? i thought it's dirt cheap especially if you're aren't a starving thirdworlder
sai has awkward default shortcuts and lacks some nice things like rulers and grids
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>>7424908
yet for some reason virtually no pros use shita, every pro uses either csp or photoshop
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>>7424740
I've heard it dogshit and worse in every way than krita
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>>7424908
>Only talented Draw-Fags love Krita
only people that would rather jerk off to their own code and stupid customization love krita because it lets them do anything but draw. Krita sucks dick. Post your work drawn in krita to prove me right.
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>>7424945
Yeah, like I said, only talented draw-fags use Krita. It's their little secret software, they gate-keep it like an exclusive circle.
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>>7424956
you sound like krita fucked your wife. Why so mad?
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>>7424958
I have no clue what a "talented drawfag" is in your context if not a professional artist. people would rather draw than fuck around with stupid shit in krita to try to make it functional.
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>>7424962
What stupid shit do I have to fuck around in krita to make it functional?
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>>7424970
That anon is a crab piece of jeet, he have no hands and no talent, he can only prompt. He just hate Krita because his shekel (((maters))) do. Krita is like Prometheus unleashing the fire of the gods for free, and that's why these jeet fuckers gnaw at Krita's guts all day and night at the orders of their (((masters))) for the only crime of being AWESOME, FREE, INDEPENDENT, AND BEAUTIFUL
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>>7424979
this is the average mental illness of a kritafag
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>>7422223
>decide to pay for and use CSP
>can only animate 24 frames
>have to create a new file just to export a small section of a canvas without resizing it
Yeah, Krita is vastly superior
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>tfw went from CSP to krita and havent used CSP since
I still have CSP and a pirated copy of Photoshop but I guess Im just too used to Krita by now to switch back
The only consistent problem I have with Krita is that there doesnt seem to be any way to make brush tips rotate randomly during a stroke which I know is something CSP can do.
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>>7424981
That's based tho..
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>>7424987
I know right?
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>>7424989
>brush tips rotate randomly during a stroke which I know is something CSP can do
Hardly a deal breaker
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>>7424987
WOW, YOU HAVE TO PAY AND STILL DON'T HAVE UNLIMITED FRAMES LIKE IN KRITA? LMOAUO. THOUGHT ABOUT SWITCHING. BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE NO REASON THANK U ANON-SAMA!
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>>7424994
I know which is why Im still using Krita
Also the program can tend to start chugging when the memory usage for any given project goes above 1gb ( I have 16).
>>7424997
IIRC you have to buy the ultra paypig version of CSP to have unlimited frames for animation. Its fucking stupid and annoying and Krita beats the shit out of it ten times over for animation
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>>7424997
You're welcomed Krita bro. Stay awesome and FREE
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I made this animation in krita, You couldn't dis this shit in CSP
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>>7425008
you didn't make anything.
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>>7425009
YOU didn't make anything, cuz you can't
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>>7425008
BASED AS FUCK. I remember this one. Obviously had to be a krita chad. Stay awesome and FREE kritabro
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>>7425011
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>>7424989
F5 (Brush Editor)>Rotation>Fuzzy Dab
Adjust the range of the graph for how much variation you want.
If you use a lower range you might want to uncheck share curve and also enable Rotation>Drawing angle and leaving it at the default. If the effect is too dense try going to Brush Tip and changing the spacing to auto then adjusting the slider.
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>>7425102
Absolute legend, thanks for the tip
CSP in absolute shambles
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>>7422223
>post bait thread
>watch as people come in to shit on it or whiteknight
Anon, this is not very nice.
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So other than the text tool, no one can offer an example of a real problem with Krita for, you know, DRAWING or PAINTING?
>>7424904
>but nothing inherently functional. it's for gnu linux faggot codemonkeys
idk, seems like everything just works for me. And I've never had to touch source code or config files or anything like that.
I like it that you can just open a canvas and start drawing/painting with a huge variety of brushes, which can be easily modified with the brush editor
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>>7425223
>bait
krita is genuinely fucking awful.
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>>7425230
>I like it that you can just open a canvas and start drawing/painting with a huge variety of brushes, which can be easily modified with the brush editor
so something you can do but with a better brush engine and better default brushes with literally every other drawing software?
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>>7425008
you didn't do shit, that gif is old.
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>>7425248
How are other brush engines better? Do they have better performance or something? (Krita's brushes can be quite slow if you're painting with a large brush size, like 300 pixels)
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>>7422223
Software as a service was a mistake and I won't be giving Adobe a single red cent when Photoshop peaked at CS6.
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>>7425230
You sound desperate lol
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>>7425244
I think you just enjoy seeing the resident kritafag seething lmao
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>>7424987
I just make a second animation folder in my file and copy/paste the last frame from the first so it's now the first frame in the new folder. Kinda sloppy but it's free at least.
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>>7422223
I prefer medibang but I still use shita because it's open source.
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you know you can download photoshop for free, right?
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>>7425250
like about one year old, I know. Cuz I made it, Whyeboi
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>>7424987
>can only animate 24 frames
the fuck?
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>>7425592
Aawwww look at adobe malware saying "I want to be free like krita too!" How cute
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Adobe products are spyware btw
Based Krita making payfags seethe is the same as Applefags jerking off their $2000 mid tier computers
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I've been using Krita for 3 years now and the only thing I see what causes people seethe at Krita is that Krita is free. Free things can't be good, according to some people.
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>>7422223
I'm happy with it.
But don't listen to me, the /beg/.
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>>7425888
>(((some people)))
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>>7422223
>123 replies
>only ONE Krita user posts his works
>Photoshop and consorts just seething, don't post work
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>>7425901
>only ONE Krita user posts his work
Where was that?
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>>7425916
>>7425008
Anyways, many anons here use Krita. Also for animation it is the go to software right now.
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>>7425922
Are you actually fucking retarded? Here's my work
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>>7425901
i pyw my work in other threads and try not to double dip
>>7413773
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>>7422223
what's wrong with krita?
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>>7426026
it's not that hard to find out what a butthole looks like
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>>7426366
Absolutely nothing. Most based art software ever created.
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>>7426373
sorry shitlib, that's deluxe paint
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>>7426396
The king is dead, long live the king.
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The program doesn't matter.
Just fucking draw lmao.
You don't need to pay anything, it won't make your art better this isn't a gacha game where spending money will get you to the endgame faster.
Just fucking draw.
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Oh god, Krita is so beautiful, I just can't get over it
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Oh god, Krita is so dogshit, I just can't get over it
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>>7426508
Trying this hard to hate on Freedom and awesomeness lmao ...¬‿¬
Adobe-jeets are in shambles
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>>7426511
I use sai but nice try.
>¬‿¬
go back.
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>>7426528
>go back.
To where? To Krita's Freedom and awesomeness?...
Gladly ^‿^
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>>7424904
So no reason at all?
I knew it, techlets can't into krita
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krita is so dog shit that even photoshop es leagues better.


like you can't even make reference layers in krita

at least there is a fill bucket tool= shape fill but you have to enable it on the bundle

there are whole load of features that krita can enable, but they don't enable it on default.

they don't even make features comparable to other programs like clip studio paint
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forgot to post pic

again krita dosen't have reference layers. no 3d integration, dog shit lettering
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>>7426769
>like you can't even make reference layers in krita
What do you mean by reference layers?
Krita grants users the ability to color-code layers, and then set various tools like Contiguous Select and Fill to sample those color-coded layers for its operations. You can color-code a lineart group, for instance, and then use Fill to block out flat colors, or use magic wand to select regions of that lineart for shading. Or you can select a region of solid color and paint details on a separate layer, for a detailed lineless piece (which I do all the time).
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>>7426769
>>7426772
Are you retarded? Or are you trying to misrepresent and mock krita haters to make them look as total retards? You make a list of the things that "supposedly" are not there, and on the same sentence you admit that those features are available...
wtf? just like anon said >>7426737
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>>7425901
Because it's just going to be an excuse to blame the software, in a thread where actual arguments are few and far between. But you know what? I'll do it anyway, just for you.
Made with Krita. I like using Krita because, more than any other program, it's the best equipped for producing HDR images that can be displayed on HDR-capable TVs and monitors, and it's able to do that by allowing the user to draw on a canvas that has no limits to how bright the colors can be (a scene-referred workflow).
Speaking of which, if you have an HDR display and know it can display HDR content, you could try viewing the HDR version of pic related here: https://files.catbox.moe/83j7qj.jpg
If you don't the image will just look identical to what was uploaded here.
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>>7426796
Nice gal anon! Cool glitter brush
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>>7426737
>techlets
You're not really making a good case here, retard.
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>>7426453
This. If you are a pro you can make good stuff even in fucking MSPaint
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>>7427041
Painting software is like shoes for runners, some shoes are more comfortable than others that enable better running performance and therefore distance.
Same with painting software if it feels like ass you will draw like ass if you have skill you can bruteforce it but why make it feel like shit when you can just pick what makes you feel better? Some tools feel better than others.

This is the only thing to consider.
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>>7427044
I agree. Krita feels so good, that's why krita bros are so addicted to it.
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>>7427048
Thank you for doing the needful sarr krita is the best sar
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>>7427041
>umm guys you should be able to make peo work with a stick in the dirt, who cares about anything at all???
This will never not be stupid to me. Yes, "just draw", but some things are easier to draw with than others.
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>>7424714
there are people on xhitter pumping out cool shit on the daily with mspaint, just stop being bad
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>>7427061
Why do you talk like an Adobe-pajeet?
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>>7427083
Zero chance either of those were quick.
I hate lying faggots like this.
>bro you want to be good at basketball? Just crumple up trash and try to shoot it into a trash can, don't buy an actual basketball and use a real hoop!
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>>7425901
I have only ever used krita so I don't know in what regard it's worse or better, but it does everything I want it to and that enough.
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>>7427558
Anon that's amazing!!!
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>>7427114
oekaki boards with replays are a thing, you can see people doing things quick(ish) in ms paint equivalents.
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>>7427114
regardless the point still stands, skill / 1e6 > tools
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>>7422223
dude, im broke
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>>7422223
The fact that by default the eraser is tied to the brush you're using and that changing its size will change the size of the brush says everything about the whole software

It's the usual thing developed by nerds that may be geniuses but lack common sense so they will inevitable make dogshit UI decisions
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>>7424739
>>csp laggy as shit
Terminate the xbox whatever background process you have

No clue why but at least for me that's the cause of CSP's lag
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>>7428799
>made a selection
>okay lets move some shit
>nu uh! should have switched to move tool
>fine whatever, move it over there and lets make it bigger a bit
>NU UH! should have switched to transform tool
fucking
>okay i want this shit and that shit from other layer moved over there
>im clicking the move tool, see. we re good right?
>NU UH! Moving from multiple layers is transform only!
fffffffffffff-
>fffine lets move some animation
>what the hell, why does it only moves the current frame
>move tool? transform? anyone? help??
>NU UH! you should use completely separte shit called transform masks to move the whole animation
...
>back to drawing anon?
>y-yeah. i guess.. lets take this brush and...
>NU UH! should have switched back to drawing tool, just selecting the brush is not enough
AIIEEEEE

ps that tool only works on vector layers. you probably want the move tool
LIKE ANYONE WOULD EVER
WANTED
TO TOUCH
YOUR SHITTY ASS RUDIMENTARY VECTORS
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>>7428838
Learn shortcuts it will make Krita far more usable.
LIQ is only one click and you can put it on pen or click mouse or external soft.
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>>7428838
any software unusable without shortcuts. So learn them or use what you like to use.
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>>7429160
>>7429154
How did you guys miss the point so hard? I swear kritafags are as mentally ill as it's troon creator.
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>>7429344
If you dont like it - dont use it. Nobody will fuck uranus if you use some closed source paidware.
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>>7429344
You sound like you have a problem with it.
I never had any problem with Kirta so i don't know if you have problem then change software or wait for some future update.
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>>7429418
>closed source paidware.
you say that like literally anyone but retarded nodraw techbros give a shit.
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>>7429154
>>7429160
>Dude just go out of your way to-
I'll go one step beyond, I'll just keep pirating CSP
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>>7422223
It has AI tools however
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>>7423346
How come scream and seething about AI but when they go and use tools like this? It makes no fucking sense. At what point you really have to say "This is not okay" since this pretty much does all the hard lighting and you don't really allow yourself to learn how lighting even work?

>Can I do this in CSP?
But yes, CSP has this
https://help.clip-studio.com/en-us/manual_en/390_filters/AI_Tools.htm
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>>7427044
Yes but it shouldn't take away the fact that you NEED to run to be a runner, much like you need to draw to be an artist. If you just sit around debating each tool is better and not really actually drawing. You are the worse of these two people.
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>>7429769
>>7429659
Why do paid-ware sheep hates FREEDOM so much?
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>>7429917
I like Krita because it's free as in BEER, but the FREEDOM is kinda okay I guess
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>>7429909
Krita had this feature before this whole AI thing started. Besides, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Lighting? Have you seen the video I posted? All the colorize mask does is apply base colors to your line art so you can give it shadows, lighting, and textures yourself. It's essentially a paint bucket tool, but more efficient.
What the link you shared shows may involve more than what I'm asking for because I see it's trying to mimic the texture of a brush, which is far from what I want. I just don't want to create every base color layer myself so I can spend my time rendering instead.
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>>7429948
>Krita had this feature before this whole AI thing started.
so did csp you retard
krita has absolutely nothing good going for it besides being free.
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>>7429948
Ah well, in that case I really do apologize for my bad reply. Looks like I missed the point there. My bad for both my tone and my reading comprehension.
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>>7428838
>anti krita autist is ESL
It all makes sense now...
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>>7429901
You have to manually install that shit
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>>7428838
>fffine lets move some animation
>what the hell, why does it only moves the current frame
Because you only selected one frame. Use the shift or control key to select multiple frames. It's not rocket science.
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>>7431331
try it retard
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>>7431331
That doesnt work, you do have to add a transform mask
But on that note how does it work in other frame by frame programs?
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>>7431331
Ooh, You mean on the canvas itself and not the timeline. That makes more sense now, My bad then.
>>7431404
Clip will let you use the move tool for all the frames you selected. Opentoonz won't. At least not consistently, I swear I got it to work but much like Krita you need to use
another tool to get it to work. I guess this is a standard practice with animation programs?
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Anyone know how I can make Krita run smoother? It's literally impossible to work on animations when the program's chugging so much playback skips frames
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>>7431639
Krita is honestly not very good with animation at the moment. I've had the same issues the entire time I've used it for animating, and I'm on a fairly high-end PC. My suggestion is switch between OpenGL/Angle renderers, In-memory cache vs On-disk cache, and lower the cache generation options. Mess with those settings to see what works for you. Also avoid animating with transform masks and beg the jeet Krita devs on their forum to add a proper fucking animation camera and decent vector animation lol.
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>>7431642
Ive put up with the issue for so long I think Im stockholm syndromed at this point lol. I want to love Krita but sometimes it can make it really fucking difficult Been thinking about switching to grease pencil but last time I used that it was a buggy frustrating mess
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>>7431643
I want Krita to be better for animation too, but the most glaring problem is the performance. Everything else I don't really mind, except I also want to be able to draw outside the canvas and have audio layers. I think the best alternative is probably OpenToonz/Tahoma2D or just pirating Toon Boom.
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The only issue I've had with Krita is the animation tool, as it kind of glitches out, and sometimes my 4K monitor flickers due to GPU related issues? (But that latter one does not happen now)
I'd say SAIv2 is kind of annoying, because every time I keep making new brush settings, it crashes and reverts to default. At least krita keeps it, but they both have different brush engines.
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>>7430522
>>7429901
NTA, done that, it's decent, it's basically using SD via krita instead of your browser.
Though, haven't used it for a while, I wonder if it can help me auto paint base tones instantly instead of me doing it. I'll have to go figure that out to remove monotonous actions
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>>7422223

this guy use MSpaint

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91xWlzguSgw
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>>7432063
>I'd say SAIv2 is kind of annoying, because every time I keep making new brush settings, it crashes and reverts to default.
What version of SAI 2 are you using? I've never heard of that problem before.
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>>7432186
2024-08-14. Whenever I make a new group (for the brushes), and place a brush with a new setting, leave it up for days, and a bunch of new drawings over the time.
I then never close the tool, have around 50+ new drawings (canvases), then eventually it gives me this weird error when I try to draw on the canvas, and it won't draw, so I have to save everything and close. Once I close and re open it, it removes that new group.
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>>7432424
That's really strange. It almost sounds like a memory leak but I'm not exactly sure. There is a new version available (2024-11-23) so maybe updating to that might fix the problem? if not that seems like something to email the dev about since deleting a whole group with brushes inside is a pretty major bug.
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>>7432541
Yea when it happens again down the line, I'll email him
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>>7424987
>>can only animate 24 frames
There are free dedicated animation programs like OpenToonz and they do that shit?
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>>7425586
>open source
It only matters in terms of security so some geek can look in and see if there are any backdoors.
Otherwise it means jack shit, you're not a programmer.
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>>7429418
Open source means nothing. You're not gonna make a better art program. These kinds of software are solved problems now. You have to be Procreate developer's levels of vision to understand what the mainstream users want to have any chance of taking out Photoshop/CSP.
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Out of topic but occasionally I'd see apps like Robelle going on for sale and I'm just thinking like, "I already have CSP. All my brushes, templates, shortcuts and materials are there. What the fuck is another drawing app is going to add to my drawing experience?".

Honestly same goes for Krita, Medibang, etc. At this point I'm just too entrenched to bother trying out different apps.
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>>7432845
>What the fuck is another drawing app is going to add to my drawing experience?".
Mixing paint that's actually realistic for example.
You literally can't get a pleasing, saturated green when mixing blue and yellow with regular digital software (including Krita, sadly), which is bread and butter of tradition painting. I wanted to pirate Rebelle just to fix that issue, but it works like crap on Linux and I'd rather add those colours manually than deal with windows bullshit.
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>>7424740
Yup. It's good. Doesn't have all the fancy features but it's super-fast and lightweight.
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>>7432885
unless, you know, it's mypaint
it's pretty spartan in all other areas (literally zero editing tools) but i has spectral mixing, which yields the result you describe
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>>7422223
i abandoned it when i got a 2nd monitor and krita breaks when you do that
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>>7433269
wtf are you on about
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>>7433269
What? Never heard of that bullshit. I use double monitors with krita on win10, win 7, and linux.
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>>7422223
What's wrong with krita?
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>>7423104
>how can you even do complex halftones and screentones in krita.
>this is why clip studio paint keeps rising

Heres what i found in a quick search:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxO519Yx-Gc
https://docs.krita.org/en/reference_manual/layers_and_masks/fill_layer_generators/screentone.html
https://old.reddit.com/r/krita/comments/dl5pl8/looking_for_a_screentone_bundle/
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>>7432885
>Mixing paint that's actually realistic for example.
>You literally can't get a pleasing, saturated green when mixing blue and yellow with regular digital software (including Krita, sadly), which is bread and butter of tradition painting. I wanted to pirate Rebelle just to fix that issue, but it works like crap on Linux and I'd rather add those colours manually than deal with windows bullshit.
Clip studio paint can do that now.
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Anyone else also experience the glitch where the animation timeline's keyframes will grow wider if you move the scroll bar with the tablet stylus?
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>>7433230
Huh, I didn't know that - thanks for letting me know, I'll check it out
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didn't the developers say that they can't fix the performance issues in krita? even with hardware acceleration?

if you try using a high resolution, animaiton or images it suffers horribly?

then again, the competition isn't better. photoshop sucks cock and clip studio cucked us on hardware acceleration for their mobile apps
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>>7424740
It's pretty much lighter SAI. If a friend of mine wants to dip their toes into digital art, I always point them to FireAlpaca for its simplicity.
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>>7422223
I use Krita because it supports Linux natively. Messing around with emulators and compat layers or, may RMS forgive me for uttering such words, installing windows just to have the privilege to pay for software seems smoothbrained.
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>>7435363
further proof that shita only appeals to contrarian faggot techbros that more likely than not don't even draw
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>>7422223
Is there a way to use oklab / oklch in Krita yet?
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>>7422223
noooooo but it’s FREE AND OPEN SOURCE AIAIAISIAISIEIEIEIEIEIEIEU
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>>7422223
bleach your skin
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is there seriously no selection option (out of twenty of them) that fills gaps?
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>>7436979
The only gap the creator wants filled is the gaping wound they pretend is a vagina
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>>7422223
Eh, it works. Krita isn't my main program but it ain't terrible like some anons mention, most complains are skill issue
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>>7436979
read the manual, krita has one of the best gap filling tools
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>>7437802
so where the hell is it hidden then?
like here is a circle(ymmv)
how do i select everything inside a circle? inb4 freehand
1 click in sai btw (after fiddling with a slider)
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>>7422223
I use Linux Mint, what can I use instead of Krita?
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>>7438137
Non-meme ones would be mypaint from repos and, if you build it yourself, azpainter.
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>>7438157
Thank you anon, God bless you.
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>>7422223
autism like this is why i will never give a shit about krita, it's the troonix of digital art
https://docs.krita.org/en/tutorials/clipping_masks_and_alpha_inheritance.html
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>>7422223
WHERE CAN I FIND CSP CRACKED WITHOUT THE DAMN CHINKVIRUS AAAAAAAA
or at least for mobile
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>>7438206
you'll never get cracked CSP for mobile/tablets because that version phones home each time you launch it
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>>7438180
>Krita doesn’t have clipping mask functionality in the manner that Photoshop and programs that mimic Photoshop’s functionality have. That’s because in Krita, unlike such software, a group layer is not an arbitrary collection of layers.
Why do fossfags kept trying to reinvent the wheel?
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>>7438764
Kritafags are fartsniffing morons that think they're smarter than everyone else.
No one here that uses krita even draws. They use it solely because it's open-source shitwear made by a tranny that uses donations to fund his self mutilation (seriously)
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>>7438063
they're probably talking about the colorize mask tool. There good video on it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQdx6H9BIGs
It might seem intimating at first but in practice it's dead simple. It's basically a flood fill with nodes.
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>>7439000
I know about colorize mask. Thats why I specifically asked about selecting pixels. I dont want to go through the whole setup just to select some stuff.
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>>7439009
So use a better art program.
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>>7438764
>>7438180
>>7438798
Why is /ic/ filled with so many boomers? Krita does something slightly differently than the way you're used to and you freak the fuck out like an octogenarian who's just been shown a smartphone. Are you mentally stunted?
So you don't have a function named Clipping Mask, but you have Inherent Alpha, which is the same thing, but more flexible. Create a layer, enable inheret alpha, and any stuff on layers below it will act to mask what's on your layer. And groups act as a way to control composition order of operations, which can be really useful if you use certain filter layers or blend modes. I use that all the time in my drawings. And if I need a cosmetic group (or a group that composites in-line, such as a set of color correction filters and other post processing), I just hit the Passthrough option.
Honestly I'm glad I don't have this retarded mentality, otherwise I never would've been able to learn Blender since I had already learned SketchUp.
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>>7439023
Why is /ic/ filled with so many /g/ tourist techfags? Oh right, ai

Krita is trying to reinvent the wheel for no reason.
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>>7439023
I wanna DRAW not read documentation to find out why this incredibly basic industry standard feature works in such arcane ways
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>>7439038
If you need everything to be the same as in another program, why are you searching for another program?
post your industry standard work
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the baby ducks are ANGRY
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>>7439067
I'd rather pay 20 bucks a year for CSP than deal with krita's bullshit sorry!
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>>7439038
>>7439104
>a basic hierarchical group structure is Eldritch knowledge to this anon
Holy Jesus maybe you are mentally stunted. Oh well, it's not my $20. Spend it however you want.
>>7439027
>Krita is trying to reinvent the wheel for no reason.
The reason is that it's simply better and more flexible, for literally zero extra effort unless you're genuinely retarded. There are tons of things that you can ONLY do in Krita that you can't do in any other program, notably ANY scene-referred work or anything that requires color management. Maybe if you took a hot second to figure it out you'd come to like the program and its power, as I have.
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>>7439167
Convenience is king. Nice try tho anon.
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>>7439169
It is convenient. For me. As someone who's used Krita for years, I find the concept of an art program not having compositing groups to be downright barbaric. But I can accept you're set in your old ways. I will continue to paint in HDR, using Krita.
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>>7422223
every program has its flaws, i can appreciate how krita is more customizable than other programs though
i also find animating way easier on krita than on csp
honestly though, just use what works best for you! since YOU are the one using these programs CAN YOU DIG ITTTTT?!
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>>7422545
>Like I hate that I can't move objects or selections with the arrows
Just hold shift and move the layer and/or selection with the arrows =)
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>>7439167
>it's simply better
And yet no one uses it. Curious.
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>>7429769
you're supposed to learn shortcuts for whatever software you use, to avoid wasting time
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I fucking love the chrome brushes in krita but I hate how I can never remember how to zoom in and out every time I try to use it again KEK

If I could replicate those brushes perfectly into clip studio I would be so happy



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