Anyone else here working a regular job/day job as a photographer? I've been working as a real estate photographer for a while and still do side jobs for things like corporate portraits/events, and I'm curious if anyone else on /p/ works in photography too.
>>4470477news papers maybe although I get the distinct feeling the journalists just use their phone these days
>>4467696Roughly how well does retail photography pay and do you have to travel a lot for the job? It feels like the ind of job where you'd need to constantly be on your feet visiting houses
>>4467625>>4467263Realizing I never replied, but the other anon is correct, most come from weddings.Often they'll schedule something beforehand to have a printed book available as a surprise gift for an album. I've done one the morning of too, basically as part of the "getting ready". Otherwise, usually done as a gift for husband's birthday or anniversary present.Weddings are great because you can get engagement, wedding, anniversary, maternity, family, etc all from one client. Weddings themselves also offer about the best opportunities from word of mouth you can get, from both clients and other vendors.
>>4470555During the trainee/probationary period, it pays utter dogshit but then improves once that period is over (likely to weed out people that don't give a fuck about photography or the hours needed). It's definitely not a massive high paying job ever after that and you're on your feet the majority of the time, but I guess it depends on how you feel about driving a lot, walking a lot and carrying a camera on a tripod for about 8 or 9 hours a day. I started to lose some weight doing it which was nice and depending on your schedule, you can take an hour or two for lunch (not paid obviously but it's good to rest between jobs).As far as travel, there can be a lot of driving, which is fine since you get paid for all the time it takes to travel anywhere. I've done some jobs where it was an almost 3 hour round trip and I was paid for every minute of it, and the actual job itself was just the basics of bedrooms, kitchen/living, bathrooms and the front of house photo.
School photographer hereOh yeah, you don't need me to confirm it but absolutely it sucks. But the facilitation involved in getting freelance clients is even worse for me.That said, I'm glad I get to take portraits and I get to be semi-creative sometimes. I don't like nature/landscape/still-life photography as much, the human body and face are the most interesting possible photos to take for me.I'm torn on the whole getting-to-work-with-kids thing. It keeps me young and can be very fun, but then of course, it can also be utterly infuriating, and you're always at the absolute bottom of the list of people the school cares about on any given day.Also, I rarely think about photography outside of work. I love it and respect it, but I want to be a filmmaker really, so I almost never find myself taking photos for fun. Only at those fleeting times I really want to get serious about improving.
Rank the Trump Portraits
>>4466539>s named tyler with a tranny boyfriend
>>4469991It's AI
>>4469991>>4471640The people in positions of power are already using AI and people are falling for it. Soon enough people will realize photography is an art, not an imprint of truth. And they will realize that most "photojournalism" is actually propaganda photography, not real journalism as well. Or so I hope. When you realize the pictures that you see aren't necessarily representing reality, you start valuing them as art, for their own sake. Especially after C2PA has been exposed as the FRAUD it is.
>>4471640Yes it's AI and it's more interesting that the actual portraits taken by real people. Sad, isn't it. >>4471647Only the mugshot is representing reality.
2>3>>>>4>>>12 is classic given the man's aura at the time. 3 was just unbelievable when it came out, just too crazy to be believed practically, but the air of evil mad scientist and punished-Trump it gives off has not been reflected in his actions since.4 is more like the yammering grandpa he actually is these days, likable, but not really effective. 1 is just weird.
How important is it to study photography through the library? What books do you recommend for beginners? What are the best photo books?
>>4473494>Photography: The Whole Story.What are your thoughts on it?
>>4473495Its fine. It has a lot to cover, so it cant go into too much depth, but the information is there. It contains a huge number of inspiring shots - which I think is the most important thing with these books. Its nice to get into the technique and history and character of the photographer; but if you want to emulate that, you can find it out later. What you're really looking for here is inspiration. You're learning how to frame. How to light. I dip into it occasionally to get ideas.Even though it has basically no data about the photographers, I actually prefer the Polaroid Book - because I love how much experimentation was achieved with such a restricted setup. People squeeze some beautiful, colourful, ethereal shots out of Polaroid in a square image.
>>4465912If you're going towards the mirrorless world, almost all books are useless, unless it's about comprehending light and composition imo...
>>4473506>>If you're going towards the mirrorless world, almost all books are useless, unless it's about comprehending light and composition imo...Photography is overflowing with retards who are technical masters but they don't have a unique style or a grand worldview which they present through photographs. I don't know how improvement is possible without education in art.
>>4473513We have gotten to a point in time where the technical know how is out the window, the mirrorless ecosystem has defeated all our "issues" pretty much when it comes to gear or knowing shutter speed, apature, and iso. Anything beyond say a z9 is maximum "technical", and niche, and for professionals, which I cannot argue against. But overall, the average mirrorless camera does all the work for you, so it's purely up to the user and their vision or eye to make or break a photo.
You find yourself trapped in a foreign country for 6 months.Due to some unfortunate disaster - you can only spend this time with either a 15mm lens or a 200mm lens. Which way are you going?Also ITT: Post Extra wide and extra long shots.
BASED EASTMANFUCK ALARIS
>>4472576I'm sorry they took your kodachrome away, even though paul simon asked them not to
>>4472917>potential for lower pricesif the chinks couldnt/wouldn't make lucky cheap, lol
>>4473062when are we going to be able to get lucky color film
>>4472576is this cat kodachrome
>>4473499looks like kot-at-home to me
What lightning set up and editing achieved this look? I’m somewhat new to photography. I got a great camera canon R5ii and the 35mm 1.8 lens. I’d like to learn from you guys how I could tweak my photos in studio to resemble this. Photoshop? Dodge and burn?
>>4473316Thanks. I actually prefer the digital look.
>>4473313On second thought If you're using digital you may be able to get away with a single softbox top right, feathered, actually. Previous setup would be needed for film. It looks like there was some lightening around his face. If you look you'll see where the background is brighter on his profile.
>>4473313Well first you need Oscar Isaac. Then you need some soft lighting from the top right of your shot and maybe a reflector in the bottom left to reduce shadow. You would also need a longer focal length than 35mm to do a tight portrait without much facial distortion. The most important thing is having Oscar Isaac though.
>>4473313Looks like ai slop
>>4473497Good analysis of the light setup, thanks anon.>>4473501Get your eyes checked.
>he's backour eyes were not ready, but at last we truly see:https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/skylum/luminar-neo.htm
>tfw you walkin thru a beautiful autumn park and BOOM a sudden reality shift>look up and realize you are now in Kenverse.what do
>>4472687Rejoice as all the minorities are gone
I took a picture with my Pixel one night in the village.
>>4469995>consistently the same thingMy point exactlyBlue and yellow/orangy faggotry>>4470011It's annoyingly retarded pising as genius, to the point of being despicable.>>4471275Just kys.
>>4472768phones are still terrible taking photos of the sky, fucking AI post processing.No pure black night sky, all artifacts.No hate to you, just me ranting that phone makers are twats.
The tutor came in and, to introduce ourselves, he asked what cameras we had at home. Everyone was saying the latest Canon model or top end DSLRs. I was trying not to say mine. But the tutor realised I hadn't said anything.>And you, Anon, what is your camera?>U-um, it's a Pentax >...>A Pentax ist DS... >A what?>Pentax... it's for interchangeable K-mount lenses... I have a whole ecosystem of them...>Um...>B-but I have a Canon EOS 1100D with a zoom kit lens.>Um. Yeah. Please use that instead for the assignments and exercises. Anyway...Did I fuck up?
>>4470332but toilet seat pump be like two dollar at home depot
>>4470207Should have said you have an ebony 8x10 camera.
>>4470414I'd call that a redflag- any DSLR should be acceptable but they ok'd a 14 year model?
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fake as fuck,all tutors are happy if you used more than an iPhone, DLR in auto mode.
Thoughts on Nobuyoshi Araki, aka ARĀKII? He is known for his evocative subjects, such as bondage and denuded eroticism, as well as controversial treatment of his models.
>>4467096his work lacks tentacles
>>4467097iconique
>>4467097I have this as a poster at homeA gallery was selling his work recently but ain't no way I'm paying 8 grand for that
>>4467096>controversial treatment of his models.does he rape them?
>>4467096just stupid porn. turn the young good looking women into homely men or women and no one cares suddenly. he just sells softcare to normies as "art". lame grift
Just take photos of AI slop and you too can become a master photographer.
>>4473122Based, I've been saying this for years. >people unironically believe the Zapruder film couldn't be faked>>4473133Another good example
>>4473141OP btfo>f-film doesnt capture reality because muh out of focus scans of out of focus scans>35mm = 400mp+>NOOOOO! GEAR SALAD! THE ENGAGEMENT HAS BEEN BAITED!
>>4473141that is fake af, foolji gfx dont really prodooce 400mp, plus a 100% crop of a 400mp image would be a tiny tiny area, much much smaller than thathttps://www.reddit.com/r/analog/comments/18if5vm/trying_400_megapixels_scans_on_several_film/PD: i like film, but at lets say 160lp/mm youd get 87mp at most
Fantastic. Please post negatives of NFTs and get them enlarged in your next thread.
>>4473391great idea. i could even shoot them on slide film so they can be projected and viewed against a light
>don't switch to a new mount in the digital transition so all your customers can still use their old film lenses>pride yourself for upholding true photographic tradition and having the finest lenses with the most "character">release the first full frame camera that can actually make full use of all those "sweet" 35mm pentax lenses in 2016, literally 10 years after the competition>in the meantime only make shitty APS-C kit zooms>Release your only monochrome camera for the true affecionados>It's APS-CWhy is this company such a joke?
Why aren't the three amigos weather resistant? :( I want to get them to take them backpacking...
>>4473162its for people who have a bunch of film lenses from when pentax was still relevant and don't want to go mirrorless for some reason tl;dr: yes>>4473169dont make me hit you over the head with /o/ - autoperformance != enjoyment
>>4473169wrongAlso photography was solved on 1902 when the Tessar design was invented.
>>4473162>too hipster to buy a real but "ugly" and "too popular" camera like Snoy or Ganon ?ouchpeople tend to have Pentax cameras because they already have some pentax lens. They do tend to be good, solid and reliable cameras though for some of them also you get to be different which is a plus
If anyone wants a cheap K1 check eBay
Have you ever gotten a strong emotional response after viewing a specific phot, like you would in a movie ? Or maybe going to an exhibition or reading a book ? Or is photography just "pretty cool" at best ?Pic related is the first response I got when searching " best art photography ever" online. While it's really good and impressive, I can't really say it makes me feel anything in my gut.Post pics that make you feel something, inspiring photographers/books etc.
>>4468813> To me your problem is the lack of punishments for bad behaviours.Doesn't really work like that though. Some countries have very harsh punishment and low crime rate, high punishment high crime rate (see France with drugs), low punishment low crime rate and low punishment high crime rate. The harshness of punishment isn't correlated to the amount of crime commited.Also you fail to take into account the fact that Paris is 2 times more populated then Taipei, plus all the tourists, Paris being one of the most visited cities in the world with London. It already attracts all kinds of people, but you also need to consider all the people who came to France because (one way or the other) of colonization. I think it's a small price to pay for all the atrocities France did for centuries.Beyond that on the subject of stealing, it's mostly a cultural thing I think. People in Europe just consider that things left in the wild just belong to everyone. You just don't live things outside. Even if you go to some random village in the countryside with less then <1000hab. if you live your shit out it will get stolen. My headcanon is that a lot of people are just cleptomanic, even if they don't need the money they take it. Also I visited Taipei a few months back and I found it really nice
>>4468860>high punishment high crime rate>like France Yeah you have no idea what you are talking about you should stop I'm not reading past that. You are probably a stupid brownie that thinks France deserved it because of colonisation or some retarded take like that
>>4468831He was ahead of the curve, that's why he got so much hate.
Found this cool picture by Cartier-Bresson of an american soldier returning to his mom. This one does it for me and I think it would be a good conclusion to this thread, hopefully
Yes, it's art. I'm not a photographer, I'm a drawing artist, but I come here for inspiration.Anybody can take a picture, just like anybody can doodle. The hard part is perfecting your craft and having a compelling/unique vision that makes you a recognizable artist.
How do I get over the fear of using my camera in public? I got a fancy camera but I've never taken any shots with it because I'm too scared to go outside with it and use it
>>4472643Next step is to spend 20 minutes standing on a busy street corner taking pics.
>>4456713Wear sunglasses. I can stand people looking at me funny but it's when there's actual direct eye contact with other people that my morale starts faltering. Also, like someone else said, it's much easier when you know you're a tourist.
In the grand scheme of things, you're just a dot among billions of dots inside a pale blue dot. When you die, do you want to look back and think "I wish I'd taken those photos instead of worrying about other random fucks think about what I'm doing"?
>>4456713to people who are too afraid to use their camera in public I always say this : get in a habit of taking all of your clothes off in crowded settings. There is going to be enough people that nobody notices what you are doing. You can to this once a week, even twice a week if you've got the time. Once your dick/titties start feeling cold you can put back everything and continue your day. After about six months of doing this pulling your camera out in public should be a no brainer
Want a cheatcode? Wear hi-vis. Grab a hi-vis yellow shirt, hoodie, or even a vest. Bonus pints if you get a few dirt or grease stains on it. People are so conditioned to ignore anyone wearing hivis that its basically urban camouflage.
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>>4472585This is counterintuitive to me, because in real life, greenery is very nice.
>>4472601Its a digislug problem. CFAs garble greenery into an indistinct mess. You can chase megapixels and lens sharpness forever and it will never look quite as good as you saw it until you’re up to a $50k phase one trichromatic back or doing trichromes with a 50mp+ monochrome sensor. It’s a technological limitation of digital tries to register color and detail at the same time. Foveon is a noticeable improvement as is pixel shift if somehow nothing moves, not even atmospheric distortion… which never happens. On film, greenery looks amazing.
NEW THREAD! Now that one anon can wash his pussy.>>4472577>>4472577>>4472577
>>4470808Ummmm kino
>>4470815I would have taken a step back so the traktor isn't cut off, but even then, the composition isn't that interesting. I would have walked around a bit to find a different angle and just not taken the photo if I couldn't find a good one.>>4470816>>4470817Is this a 50mm lens? Look at how you're tilting the camera down ever so slightly, so the vertical lines aren't vertical. Very common issue in the 35-60mm range because you're very close to a standard fov, so the subtle up or down perspective just looks weird and wrong. If the tilt is obvious and pronounced like looking up at a skyscraper with a wide angle lens, then your brain can kind of categorise it as looking up or looking down. If it's almost straight but not quite, then it just looks off>>4470818Nice subject and angle but the perspective a bit wonky again and the shot is too tight. Was there something at the edge of the frame that you wanted to exclude to get more of a clean shot? I wouldn't be so scared to include some uninteresting shit at the fringes if that's the only way to give my main subject some space. Also the colour in the sky is hella weird, start using presets or film sims, or better yet, just shoot film
>I need a camera bag>search "camera backpack">234,484+ different bags to choose from. Why is like this with fucking bags?
>>4459085wtf how did you get this picture of me
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I'm sick of sling bags over the shoulder, so I'm thinking of getting the Spider Holster for when I want the camera accessible.Or a waist bag like the Mountainsmith Tour Lumbar Pack when walking around. On the picture, the straps are optional if you're carrying less than 10lbs.All the popular bag brands, Peak Design, Wandrd, Wotancraft, have sling bags that could easily convert to waist bag. Sling bag is the current youthful fashion. I think waist carry will make a comeback, per the usual two-decade cycle.
camera cubes are legit the stupidest idea i've ever seenif i'm bringing a "camera bag" i don't want to have to fish a smaller compartment out of my pack, unzip that cube somewhere stable, and only then do i get to my polar filter or a microfiber wipeif i'm carrying a "camera" bag, it needs to provide me with access to what i need, when i need it
>>4468105You think you don't need a blower because you don't do anything interesting enough to warrant it. Try getting a piece of lint visible past f/4 on your sensor after a lens swap on top of a mountain. Oh wait, that'll never happen to you, because you only shoot building corners with your one lens. You could've just bought a compact but you're a LARPing hipster faggot who needed a Zf.
