Hi /p/, visitor from /lit/ here. I know nothing about cameras but for years I've really liked looking at pictures. Shoutout Ralph Eugene Meatyard, Vivian Maier, Roger Ballen, Emmet Gowin, Stacy Kranitz, Bruce Gilden, Dawoud Bey, Tseng Kwong Chi, Saul Leiter, Frederick Sommer, Mario Giacomelli, Lucas Samaras, Nan Golding, the Japanese guy who took all those raven pictures, many others. They might be memes, I don't know, I just really like their pictures.I have about 500 bucks to spend and I want to buy a camera. I'm thinking about a used picrel (Canon EOS R1000) with whatever used lens it normally comes with, think it's called a RF-S 18-45mm? I don't really know much about gear, just want to start taking pictures. I'm vaguely aware that once you buy a camera you're "locked into its system" of lenses, etc. I've heard the name Canon before so I figure that buying more lenses at some point in a few years won't be a problem. I want to take digital pictures because I don't want to pay for film right now, learn to develop, all of that. Am I being retarded about this, or is this a good purchase? Thanks in advance. In a form of payment, have a book recommendation -- currently reading "Love's Work" by Gillian Rose, short memoir by a philosopher who wrote it while dying of ovarian cancer. Strongly recommend.
>>4529709>inferior That's the M5, lmao.EF mount is here to stay even if they discontinue all Canon DSLRs in the future, if only because it became an industry standard like Arri PL (which started in 1980, to show you the longevity of these mounts).
>>4529716EF-M was too good. Thankfully it already has every lens you'd ever need for travel/EDC, all of them are smaller than their EF counterparts and just as sharp, and it can use an official EF adapter for edge cases where EF-M doesn't have a native lens.
>>4529537>drops over a stop of ISO noise using shorter exposures>equivalence fags btfo5DII users have wizard level skillsbuy a 5DII if you want to become a skilled photographer
>>4529626Both DA 50 and DA 35 plastic fantastics are fully FF capable as well as the DA 40 Limited and DA* 55 with a very small vignetting in the corner, basically full coverage.
>>4529851Also the DA 35 and DA 50 are cheap as fuck, you can get them for $80 or less a piece. I got my DA 35 for about $65, no outside wear and clear optics.
New motto - gear only matters if your photo doesn't suck.
>>4529870>Lumix colors are all over the place. Her skin bounces between grayish blue to yellowish green and sometimes normal. Plus, you'll never see a decent stills autofocus test in a lumix review...The worst thing about Lumix is that they also removed Optical Low Pass Filters from their cameras, which seems odd when people claim OLPF are more suited to videography than photography and claim that Lumix is the video brand, but it makes sense once you understand that OLPFs were removed to save cost for manufacturers not for any image quality benefit.Luckily Kolari makes OLPF, permanent and drop-in options for L-mount and others.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9hvb4vKJnY
>>4529675>trying to deny that pixel pitch is one of the main determiners of reach.Pixel pitch is ONE FACTOR the equation of so-called "reach" (technically, ANGULAR RESOLUTION). In fact, it is only one SUB-FACTOR of one of the two REAL factors: IMAGE SCALE, the other one being CLEAR APERTURE.Reducing pixel pitch is ONE WAY to increase image scale. But it is ALWAYS BETTER to MAXIMIZE the pixel size for any given IMAGE SCALE, which means you should always increase the focal length FIRST. A larger sensor will ALWAYS yield more resolution than a smaller sensor at ANY GIVEN IMAGE SCALE, and will ALWAYS yield cleaner images with less noise at ANY GIVEN RESOLUTION. Your Saturn snapshit does NOT prove the superiority of smaller sensors, and in fact the full-frame sensor in THAT PARTICULAR comparison would have performed BETTER at the same image scale.STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION.
>>4529889>and in fact the full-frame sensor in THAT PARTICULAR comparison would have performed BETTER at the same image scaleWhy are you fixing image scale as if the average user has bespoke sensors and optics? The maximum image scale is obtained maximizing focal length and minimizing pixel pitch. My whole argument is that once you've already maxed out on the focal length you have available or are willing to deal with (be it a matter of size, weight, practicality) then a crop sensor is how you max out your reach. If you're a Qatari sheikh then feel free to spend over 2 million USD on a medium format super telephoto lens plus the tripods, vehicles and crew to move it around.
Hey, absolute photography noob here (I barely know anything about cameras)I'm looking to buy my first camera for the sole purpose of taking photos of my model kits (in other words, almost exclusively close-up photos). What's the best camera/lens combo I can find for less than 300€?Again, I don't know shit about cameras so I have no idea what to look for.
I have too much gear but still want some input on what I should bring to Paris for a week:Leica MP w/ some 28-75 primes (incl 35 summilux), SF20 FlashNikon Fm3a w/ some 24-90 primesRolleiflex 3.5EFuji GFX100RFRicoh GR4 MonochromeRicoh GR1VLeaning bringing the MP and 35 Summilux with a bunch of Tri-X and the GFX. Maybe the GR4 Mono too. idk
Will update as images are processed, will be Speedweek and a bunch of other stuff I did over the months.
>>4528900He still has an air brake endorsement on his license. They come to Speedweek sometimes, this guy was there in 2018.
>>4528905Very interesting, not the one I knew though.This is the one I meant, it'd be a crazy strike of luck if it happened to be there honestly:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_OqYjk66V8>>4528903Wew, it's cramped in Zztopland.Also I was just thinking, how cool would it be to bring a slit camera there?
>>4528912Wow, they even brought a lot lizard
>>4528949Kek that's the wife of one of them I think
>>4528952>he married the lizardoh no...
>be Shigemi Sugimoto>former principal engineer of Olympus' camera business>have your entire fucking division bought out by Japan Industrial Partners>literally the King Von of the Japanese consumer technology industry>killed Sony Vaio>killed Toshiba>killed Rohm Semiconductor>killed Olympus' Telecommunications sector before they killed off their camera business>raped Japan's thermography business>spent the latter part of 30 years patent-trolling and carving out corporations>buy back OM System with own money like a boss>never make the company publically traded>never sell out to Israel like Nikon (TowerJazz)>one OM employee leaked that this motherfucker was gonna make a medium format Olympus camera before the company implodedComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>4528850>having a meltdown on the behalf of a proven spammerPathetic>nooo you need to honestly engage with the reposting retard you cant just point out all their reposts and dismiss them! schizo!Are you new to 4chan? Normal posters dont reuse the original filename and paraphrase the original post. Maybe AI does. Its probably the same autistic retard that spammed about sony pancakes last year.
>>4528850It's really, painfully obvious to anyone who's posted here more than 2 weeks that it's the same guy. He's recently moved his spamming out of the /gear/ thread because jannies no longer allow him to make a new /gear/ thread every 350 posts.And yeah, he's very likely the same one who made every /gear/. I wonder if they blocked his IP range from starting threads?
>>4528853>>4528857Autistic samefag
>>4528860>trying to save face like a jeetReminder>>4528828>>4528826Caught repostin’ LOL
>>4528865Nice edit, making it jpg is the cherry on top.
Rank the Trump Portraits
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>>4518159no it is rather nice if you look dpreview z50 samples many get nice pics of puppy boys and mochalatte
>>44321141 - Don't smile. Seem serious.2 - They've realized I'm an idiot.3 - I'm gonna destroy America bitches.4 - Hurry up. It's sleepy time.
>>4432114On a scale of pedophile to traitor I'd rate them pedophile and traitor but also murderer.
>>4528338Heckin' upvoted!
Can you take amazing shots and get good at photography with just a point and shoot? I'm getting sick of carrying around my bulky setup everywhere, even though it's M43
>>4528752nah i just don't care to waste effort on capitalising shit. nice projection that i'm american in ur faggot ass timezone tho, retard hehe. ur so butthurt by my truth nukes that u are making wrongly inferred adhoms to cope. oooofff
>>4528755Don't kill yourself tonight
>>4528763is that your comeback? you're unable to present a single rebuttal except "you can't write" (lol, maybe you can't read anything outside your kiked company memos?) and now seething here wishing that i was as unstable as you. this hobby is probably all you have and you are completely ineffectual in using it. sad
>>4528767>antisemitismYep, low IQ.
>>4528749You sound angry and you're projecting even harder now. Looks like I hit a nerve, huh? XD lmao. Sorry lil bro, but your proudest instagram post is just AI tier image slop compared to the chemical prints I make with my superior format. Both the content and the quality of the image.You talk a big game, but you havent posted any pictures. Please show us all your exceptional phone pictures. You wont. :]>>4528752>>4528769This kek. There's a lot more than just the antisemitism that is low IQ about his posts.
When are we getting a camera with a cross-shaped sensor or an oversized square sensor with dark corners? This should already be the standard on the tiny smartphone sensors so I don't have to rotate my phone
I like 4:3
>>4524326A few Panasonics did that too
>>45246854:3 was nice when I had a 4:3 monitor since you can view in fullscreen and it'll fill the screen completely, no black bars. But 4:3 monitors are basically gone now outside of retro stuff so no point anymore imo.
>>4524316Just make square lenses
you should be asking where the curved fluid-filled sensors are. You know, the sensor type that animals have.
Selling prints and exhibiting are great but that’s not really the bread and butter of art photography. Have you guys never tried to publish your own photobooks or zines? This YouTube channel posts small press photobooks and has interviews with photographers: https://youtu.be/RV9OX4o4ITQ?si=3juCfOxR4AIip2v0If you make your own imprint, you could take all the profits and royalties from sales. It might mean working for not much money but it’s a better side hustle than most other arts and crafts.
>>4528091I have a bunch of photographs i made ‘round 4 years time at an amish farm in central NYS. I made them with an ex/friend, it was his property, and he died this year. I wanted to make a book with those photos, but I don’t know how to end a story that doesn’t really have an ending as I left for norway before he passed. It eats me up inside and I want to do this for him, but of course I have my own ideas to disseminate as well. So many possibilities. Text? No text? Allegory? Straight to the point recount of our times together? I don’t want to do some sort of Yale bullshit where the documentary photograph becomes something else, but… I’m afraid I don’t know what to do.
>>4528091>Selling prints and exhibiting are great but that’s not really the bread and butter of art photographyDo you mean that selling book usually brings more money? Or that books are the best way to showcase photography?
>>4528091We have a zine thread already >>4438872, plenty of folks making and posting their stuff there.
>>4528103Get/make proof prints of all the possible images you want and start story boarding/brain storming by yourself and/or with a trusted friend or friends. Write a few paragraphs, pick a few quotes or poems or whatever. Have peoppe who knew him do the same. Get everything laid out. Just start the process. You don't need to figure everything out before you begin. Get the idea out of your brain and into reality as step number one.I often find that my best ideas and inspiration come after I've started working through my original idea and it may take the whole project in the totally opposite direction if that's what needs to happen. Sorry for your loss norwaybro.
>>4528091Photography is probably the worst artsy hobby to make money from. The ranking is probably something like: photography > writing > music/performing art > drawing/painting, from most difficult to easiest.
I bought some slides off eBay and scanned them. These are from the 60s to the 90s. The majority of them appear to be from a family on the west coast, but some appear to be from the Philippines.
>>4527943Thank you.
This one said Aruba 2/67 on it.
>>4527890What did you use to scan them? My grandpa wants go digitize a bunch and he got a shitty rig off Amazon...
>>4527890Really cool!Thanks for sharing
>>4527890>>4527945These 2 are taken the same day. Lady in the white shirt with blue, green, red and yellow in the second photo can be seen in the window of the first photo.It is fascinating how forgotten and discarded amateur snapshits are somehow more interesting than most things produced today.
Innovation is dead Part 2 editionPrevious: >>4526676
Probably the best example of detail and sharpness on 40MP X-Trans. Still with film grain, sharpness @ -2 and noise reduction at -4. Last example. Modern sensors are so fucking good it really doesn't matter that much if you buy APS-C or M43. Just don't zoom to 100% and enjoy photography.
>>4528920I m this anon>>4528915I view the pics on my 4k 40" tv but send them to my friends on wa. I totally get you but also i like to zoom in at 300% and more and see details in pics. But is just for my amusement and satisfaction. Know moat of ppl don t give a shit or even zoom more that what is displayed on their phone screen. But i ve paid a lot of money for the camera and lenses so i want to see some good results. I know i should be more focused on getting good pictures but sharp pics are low hanging fruits
Unprocessed RAW at 100% so no film grain. Looks much sharper. >>4528930Yes, that's 100% me.
>>4528915NR negatively impacts color, and can lead to a muddier look in skin tones for example
>>4528665>And yes, I can pocket both of thoseI have never met a real human bean who wears clothing with pockets large enough for a camera of any kind that isn't a p&s.
Was playing around with quality settings for fun and accidentally discovered that actually, super low quality JPEGs can look kind of cool and aesthetic. Give it a try, cook some JPEGs at arbitrarily low quality and see how they look. I've gotten best results from qual=0 to qual=10, personally, with most looking best around qual=5 or lower.Tips:>No difference between qual=0 and qual=3. Qual=4 is the first step that looks different from qual=0.>4:4:4 subsampling yields a finer pixelisation effect than 4:2:0, although the actual difference in practice is not always noticeable. I don't think either is necessarily better than the other in terms of achieving the look.>Progressive encoding and optimised Huffman tables have no effect on the look so no reason not to use em.>Smoothing changes the pixelisation a little bit but not enough to worry about imo, mostly just makes it looks blurrier/fuzzier. Actually I think the softer edges detract from the harsh look.Picrel is the one that started it all. Looks like something you'd see in an Amiga game. I'm gonna try printing some of these on copy paper with my home office inkjet to "enhance" the look.>Local dogsnapper likes low-quality imagesPottery. Not huskyfag btw.
>>4528083Oh yeah which one do you reckon I should try getting printed on glossy paper? I'm thinking the very first one.
>>4528085First one or the seagull one.
I use an app called 8bitphoto
Also a dog photogrosophist
This is retarded beyond belief and you have no eye for visuals at all.
Egg anon should look into Josef Sudek; his still life photographs are amazing.
>>4528070:D Yes he was an early inspiration for me. I really like the tonality he achieves with his prints.
Redpill me on screen vs viewfinder debate. Personally I find screen to be way more comfortable. Viewfinder is a total pain in the ass.
>>4497906Samefags gonna fag
>>4498261Because I shoot on a film SLR with TTL viewfinder. That's why not both
>>4508213Don't waste time on /p/?
>>4527184As a follicularly challenged individual who wears baseball caps and prefers composing with a viewfinder this is pain.
>>4497897Screen for 90% of shooting, viewfinder for when it's sunny and you can't see the screen clearly. Both have a purpose. You just don't shoot enough to realize it. Stop masturbating over gear and go outside.
Maybe camera glasses are the way for street photography so you stop taking photos of stranger's backs in public.They shoot video too though vertical
>>4524389>Can record while power bankedUNLIMITED POWAH!
Judging from cop-slop videos, current bodycams appear to do good enough job with 8h recording time.
>>4526030I will not be remembering that since there is no expectation of privacy in a public space, assault is illegal, and the state has a monopoly on violence
>>4527902What's paper legal and socially legal are two seperate things anon.If you get bashed and call the cops, all it takes is two normal looking people to say you were badgering or harassing them or others in a public setting, and the cop is almost guaranteed to side with them. If you get into a 1v1 over it then it comes down to who fights better anyway, because it's literally you vs them and having a broken jaw makes it hard to call for help, and a broken camera leaves no evidence.So either bulk up or fuck up, because the anons otb going "B-b-but assault is illegal!" like you are laughable.
>>4527934You are right in every place except America, their constitution guarantees you can film strangers in public, even if a fight broke out and your camera fell down it doesn't magically erases the footage, these little cameras are designed to take a hit or two.In an event of somebody touches you or your camera because you are filming them and you pouch them back the judge will side with you automatically because again American constitution gives you the right to defend your property with reasonable force
I want to get back into shooting film. How's the film and film camera market looking since 5 years ago?
>>4526705go get it thenyou're not getting any younger, your eyes aren't getting sharperwhat difference does it make whether the pen f is $50 or $500, that's much less than a plane ticket, and the film costs nothing compared to parking
>>4527613Gotta save up just a bit of cash first then wade through [NEAR MINT] - Has many fungus on Ebay
>>4527718grown man can't save up a few benjamins over 5 years
>>4527745I spent the Benjamins on other things. Had a few months last year where it was tough to find work, too, so I racked up a bit of debt. This year is different, so I'm going for it.
>>4527747cheers then
