what is the value of an image?like you take ityou can feel dopamine taking itbut, then what?besides getting approval on social mediaor selling it for monetary compensation,what is the value?we take the picture, we enjoy the process of taking the picturewe make pictures we enjoy to look atbut, do we hope that other's enjoy? is individual value more than the value to others, or society?i guess personally, taking photos is a fun thing to dothen I hope that the picture's are worthy and appreciated enough, so that I, the person who took it is also esteemed and appreciatedComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>4516107In my opinion photos (or any piece of art) are a form of communication. You put the things you have in your head in the real world and through this process you express yourself. That is the only real value. What happens when it is done can be valuable, especially if it makes you feel like other people understand or like what you expressed, but it is unrelated to what I think is art.
Feels good man
>>4516107It's fun to>progress and learn more and get better in a hobby>tinker with settings and new types of shots>tinker with cameras sand lenses and accessories>tinker with new editing techniques and presets>share parts of my life with others>see how things change over time>engage with other people and have new experiences through the hobby>have an excuse to travel to certain aresalso>I photograph to see what the world looks like photographed
Good answers ITT; I'd like to add that I don't do it for recognition from others, as that's a sad dragon to chase. Composing, editing, sharing, and like the anon above me said getting better over time are all appealing to me and, above all: it's fun. I've got dead loved ones who I wish I had more photos of, but you also have to not have the camera between you and your loved ones constantly. Sometimes I wonder if kids these days are as familiar staring into a phone camera as they are their own parents eyes.
>>4516107You could ask those same questions of just about anything that is outside of eating and reproduction.
itt: post your non-standard color photos. your lomo turquoise, your harman red, your aerochrome, and all the like. I guess if you do weird stuff with your digital sensors that's fine too.shot a roll of kono donau II last weekend, its a blue monochromatic c-41 film rated at ISO 8.
>>4515622>>4515670I was looking at Kallitype as an affordable option. Do you have any experience or comments on it before I get in too deep? I just don't like the blue of a cyanotype and can't afford platinum
>>4516183None at all, but I would highly recommend getting into alt processes that you think look cool. They are a ton of fun. Are you going to make your contact negatives with a printer?
>>4516184Thanks, wasn't expecting a response so quickly. I'm interested in prints with good dmax and closer to a traditional black/white print in terms of look, which is why I was looking at Kallitype. I would have to make negatives with a printer. I don't own an enlarger, so why contact prints appeal to me as an option for home printing. That and they look great. I don't have a huge space to set up an enlarger and darkroom wash station either. Just an apartment inside bathroom.
>>4516187Totally doable in a small bathroom. I do my conventional contact printing and enlargement prints in a 4x4 tent. It's cramped, but I make it work.My advice is invest in a quality contact printing frame. You want a lot of pressure on your negative and paper or you will get soft images and highlight tonality will suffer. Good brushes are also very nice to have. I forget the name of them, but theres a brand everyone likes to use. Also silver nitrate stains EVERYTHING. I have beakers that I use to move silver nitrate and the outside of them that is completely dried and clean-ish looking will leave black stains on your fingers if you grab them. Stains on clothes are a permanent blackish purple. The stains last for about a week on your skin. Be aware since you're in a rental.Printing digital negatives are really nice for contact printing alt processes because you have so much freedom to fine tune your contrast curve. You can get really attractive images without fussing with calibrating your exposure and development to get enough contrast and density in your film negstive to make a good looking print.
>>4516191Thanks for the info and tips anon. I'll be sure to look into a good frame and brushes. I appreciate the heads up about staining, too. If I make some prints one day, I'll be sure to post them.
Photo taken on top of Lovcen mountain in Montenegro
>>4516019Well, I don't.
>>4516016I get why you'd want to level, but the only reason for cropping would be if you wanted to turn this into a documentarian photo of some tiles and a gate.
>>4516013Well at least you posted a pic
St Andrew Cathedral in AMALFI window
>>4516117That's tuff
Maybe camera glasses are the way for street photography so you stop taking photos of stranger's backs in public.They shoot video too though vertical
>>4515967You're still holding a camera dummy, the glasses are somewhat incognito
Art is dead.
>>4515968Wrong, as usual.
>>4515971I was thinking that'd go undetected if everyone around you was close by and wearing a hat, but then the photos would just be tops of hats
>>4516054They also have ones that mount on your shoulder or even your chest. You could always use multiple 180/360 cams if you were a truly serious streetographer.
Let’s have a thread where we act like we have free workshops. Come in and critique my work, and even post your own works for critiques from strangers. After all, isn’t photography about making pretty images for people you don’t really know?
>>4515714
Cool pics, now to get you a workshop style critique you'd need to explain us what your project is about. I can figure it's about cemeteries, but not much more. Where is this? Why did you include photos both in color and b&W? What is it that inspired you?
>>4515719It was shot in west terrace cemetery, Adelaide, and at the botanical gardens on north terrace. It was inspired by a quote by Friedrich Engels about how life and death require one another, which I think appears in Anti-Duhring. I wanted to contrast nature and life with shadows, cemeteries, and the cenotaphs of monuments to death. I think the relationship between life and death is complex, and one requires the other; we wouldn’t have life without finality, and immortality would be not only boring but indistinct. The colour and B&W mixture was somewhat a mistake but I did want pastel colours against the contrasting of split tone black and white.
>>4515720I see. I was able to piece together the contrast between natural life and human death so I guess you managed that. My main critique would be that there is not a lot of pictures here that would convey it isolated from the series. It's fine to use the series to give meaning to single picture but it's better if there is at least 50% of the pictures that can drive the point home almost by themselves. Picture like >>4515707 seem too out of place, it would be better to be given a bit of context like in >>4515708 . >>4515712 seems to be just a worse version of >>4515700 . It's a good idea to use b&w next to color to contrat, but then you'd need to have a clearer logic behind why pictures are one way or the other. The color pictures appear to have been taken at noon, so under very harsh light. It's not in itself a mistake, but intuitively if we're talking about life and death I would more imagine a very low and dramatic light and clair obscur. Is pastel supposed to represent the artificial nature of marble and plastic flowers? You need to use your pictures to illustrate why you choses those esthetics.Overall I would say you need to refine this draft until there is a clear coherence between your esthetic and thematic choices and your pictures. Also practice taking pictures that embody your concept entirely without the need for support from other pictures. Make choices about the light and the color you want and use those as limitations to create something coherent
>>4515700I like the composition.
It is hands down my favourite kind of photography even though it has many limitations.Actually i think that being that limited kinda forces me to try and be creative even though many shots gets blown out. Or maybe i simply enjoy shooting and having the pic with me istantly.... the best way to collect memories with friends.
>>4510084I understand the appeal but I feel like they sorta have the opposite problem, they are instant and allow no editing so you dont really learn anything from themalso, what are you gonna do with them except be the 500000th person to make a polaroid wall
instax or polaroid?
>>4515285Surely a photographer can learn a lot by shooting without being allowed to edit. You better capture the shot properly.
>>4515285I agree with the other anon. It makes you think twice before committing to a shot
Since I'm unlikely to ever get any kind of Xpan camera, I thought it might be interesting to post some wide crops from two cheap digicams and a phone (Fuijfilm J20, JX500 and Nokia Lumia 520) taken over the last few years. The JX500 has a scratched lens but nice colours and I think it does OK.Some of these I've posted before, some I haven't.
>>4514640Thanks.
>>4514643Thanks.The whole thread is just my experiments in getting an XPan look from old, broke (and often cheap) digicams and phones. The Nokia Lumia 930 I'm now concentrating on has a Zeiss lens and can give DNG (Raw) files. Someone who understands editing could get a lot from these files, but even with my limited skills, I can get them looking better than their standard jpegs.I've also printed some of these photos and they look OK. I'm not someone who cares that much about the technical quality of photos (I sort of share the philosophies of Daidō Moriyama and Dmitry Markov and a number of the early pictorialists).Digicams had their moment. I wonder if cheap camera phones are next? Still plenty of good deals out there for early Android phones (and some iPhones).
>>4515243I particularly like the last of the sequence.
>>4495236
So when are we doing this again?
Why are so few women into photography anyway? You'd think they'd love it considering they can take as many perfect vanity pictures as they could ever want.
>>4515349every single woman is a photographer, anon, but they're not camera dorks who sperg out over spec tables and camera comparisons. they're into taking photos with their phone and they aren't obsessed with gear unless it's something they saw someone they think is popular using on Instagram, like a G7XIII ("everyone has one of those!" is what I heard some chick say to her boyfriend while I was looking at cameras in JB Hi-Fi). Women are born followers...
>>4515379Saying every woman is a photographer is like saying every accountant is an author because they write things down
nyc meetup???
Girls that shoot are cute and I need one
I’m thinking of getting a shift lens but I understand a view camera can make the same movements, and tilt-shift lenses are also available for most ILCs. Have any of you used a shift lens, tilt-shift lens or a view camera? What did you use it for? What was it like using one? Frustrating? Simple? Did you need any other accessories to make the process work? How did you like the final results? Was it worth the expense and effort? Is digital perspective correction just as effective?Now that I’ve really begun to focus on perspective in my images it’s all too obvious how even a small tilt of the image plane away from parallel with the subject causes distortion. Do you care about keystoning in your pictures? >picrelThe shift scale on the Laowa 20mm f/4 Shift.
>>4515332>needs a tripod and a static sceneyes and so does focus stackingthat was my point, and why I chose that analogy
>>4515829Not with some cams tho, innit
>>4515831low IQ, probably american
>>4515831the cams that do handheld focus stacking are hit and miss and come out with a result thats pretty close to a phoneits easiest and most effective to use them on a tripod with added lighting anyways
>>4515847No need to tell us your back story, anon.>>4515848I've seen excellent results when combined with flash. Of course the optimal setup is everything perfectly still, m8.
Can someone tell me what lightning equipment I would need, to recreate either of those photos?
>>4432767Source?
>>4432767Wait... I have seen this before!
bump
>>4448279One of the best /p/ insights.
>>4504097lmao
Three Rolls of Kodak Ultramax 400Presented ChronologicallyPreviously: >>4509044
>>4511411>>4511368i really like the colours on these two
>>4513579this fux
the big balls of light were pissing me off at first, but it's a rather good commentary on the intrusion of urban development
>>4511327brother nobody cares to see your entire roll of random snaps. you need to respect yourself and the viewer and curate your photos. put a of effort into your art.
>>4515809>nobody cares to see your entire rollWrong, i care because i am getting an idea of how a roll session plays out>respect and curateIf you are not going to print a book for him you should keep quiet
Where can I get a good idea of the best, most interesting way to photograph a dense forest? I find it quite difficult on account of the monotony of the surroundings. Who are some photographers that focused on this subject? or what are some good movies to watch that focus not on the vistas of the landscape but the feeling of being in a dense, crowded forest.I'm mostly seeking inspiration. Feel free to post anything you think fits the bill. I also want it to feel really eerie, like you've "crossed over" into another realm where things aren't the way you expect them to be... a bit Twin Peaks, even.
>>4515797he's right tough. even if the forest as a whole is your subject, you need to convey some sort of narrative. you cannot just snap groups of trees and except to spontaneously generate a beautiful body of work.
Having a tree as the main focal point is a pretty easy way to get a main subject and also showcase the forest. I think an approach like this works well or something more flat showing how dense a gathering of trees are from a distance is also nice. But weather and lighting is key. different times of the year offer different foliage and life in the forest, as well as more chance for fog.
>>4515813also lensing is somewhat important for getting the right compression on some of these too.
>>4515813
>>4515167>most interesting way to photograph a forest>some good movies to watch>Twin PeaksNGMI pleb
This image was taken at the same thrift store I’ve taken pictures at before. The back of the store returned a “Kids Place” area and I felt it had a very empty and nostalgic feel
some shitty abandoned mall near me
>>4511240>Are you a physicist or some kind of communistThe thread is "Do the masses even care about Photography anymore?" I'm just staying on topic and trying to clarify my point that the masses don't love photography as art more than ever, they love photography as content. It's a much cheaper kind of love. I'm conservative, btw. Distributist.>Post your most artful photoIt's difficult to qualify photos on one dimension of artfulness. Here's one I like from last year, anyway.>content vs. artI'm not going to sit here and pretend to be able to give a definition for art that will satisfy the room, but it is worthwhile to examine the differences between art and content. The intent and creator's perspective matters with the creation of art. It does not matter for the creation of content, which would have the same meaning regardless of who and how it was made.My favorite youtube channel has a nice short breakdown on the subject.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-FXiBLG8Js
>>4511248Not to get hung up on semantics, but consider that a self portrait is meant to capture and express some aspect of the artist, i.e. art. A selfie is more concerned with the what or where the photographer is, i.e. content. Again there exists a spectrum between the two. An upside down cart may not be to your taste, but it's probably more artful or aesthetically pleasing than most selfies.
>>4505092My ADHD went dormant when living in Alaska
>>4505042no. dead hobby
They do but not to a level requiring a dedicated camera and lens.
I am going to post random images I made which I have also edited and I would love my /p/iss bros to give me feedback on my composition, but mostly editing style... or direct me towards an editing style that would fit me.>feedback on composition>feedback on editing>direct my towards my own styleStarting with opening image...
Anon, I like your style, mine is the same. I like desolation and lonely scenes that are semi abstract. I really like how the black and white enhance that theme. Good shit anon.
>>4502365I cannot answer because 4chan consider my answer spam but thanks for the photo thread.
>>4505935There’s a limit on how many posts you can reply to at once. Anything over the limit is spam.
>>4502365I see your work, and before say something about it, i would say that looking for your style maybe its not the best, but i dont think that identified a little bit of that is to bad. Let me explain, knowing your style is great, but you dont have a strong style yet, there might be things, sure, but when you think about great directors, just stay mainstream, like tarantino, he is not making a movie thinking of following the path of his style. he is thinking in the shit he likes, and THAT is his style. is literally mix the shit you like and see what happend. You can doit manually as i said, mix or you can do it the natural way of just letting time show you what you like repeating de most. Most people would tell you the boat photo is great, i think you miss a big photo. That photo with just a slightly better composition would be amazing, you have the 2 subjects, the black trees and the boat with reflect, you divided in the rule of thirds, but you doit really cheap, the trees are to far in the inside of the left third, and the boat is better, i think the point allings nicely. If you want to play with BIG subjects, like super big black (trees again) and white ( for boat) you need to doit in a really tight composition, otherwise looks like something that its not finish. If big characters in game watch the composition nicely, this is top tier shit or you look the best photo of the bigger photographers and think they almost cacht it? no, they make it perfect, that is why its so hard. And the road photo tilted 45 its reeally fucking nice, i think you should explore more that, its wild and purist, and FAGGOTS! photographers would say ist not good, fuck them. That photo has movement, and that its no so easy to achive, it like you mix some shit and came that really good, explore that. That composition its better that the boat, even tho the boat its good, it gives that feel of somethings missing, but if i had the same time as you as i think it was short, i would miss to
