As title says, I've long been an entomology enthusiast, recently was handed down a decade old macro camera and been eagerly fucking around like a hobo in my local park. I am no photographer, but would like to improve, I'll post my best, you'll judge,Also pictures of bugs thread i guess.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeOLYMPUS CORPORATIONCamera ModelTG-4Focal Length (35mm Equiv)80 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandExposure ProgramCreativeISO Speed Rating1250Metering ModePatternLight SourceUnknownFlashNo FlashWhite BalanceAuto
Cringe names I know, helps me organise.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeOLYMPUS CORPORATIONCamera ModelTG-4Focal Length (35mm Equiv)100 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandExposure ProgramCreativeISO Speed Rating800Metering ModePatternLight SourceUnknownFlashNo FlashWhite BalanceAuto
Got many funny looks taking this belly on the ground. What can i say ants are fucking cool[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeOLYMPUS CORPORATIONCamera ModelTG-4Focal Length (35mm Equiv)100 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandExposure ProgramCreativeISO Speed Rating200Metering ModePatternLight SourceUnknownFlashNo FlashWhite BalanceAuto
Super oversaturated right?[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeOLYMPUS CORPORATIONCamera ModelTG-4Focal Length (35mm Equiv)57 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandExposure ProgramCreativeISO Speed Rating800Metering ModePatternLight SourceUnknownFlashNo FlashWhite BalanceAuto
Focusing on these quick little fucks is a bitch, more from this >>4341261 saga[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeOLYMPUS CORPORATIONCamera ModelTG-4Focal Length (35mm Equiv)100 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandExposure ProgramCreativeISO Speed Rating200Metering ModePatternLight SourceUnknownFlashNo FlashWhite BalanceAuto
Hell of a lot easier when the fucker aint moving. Who'd have thought?[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeOLYMPUS CORPORATIONCamera ModelTG-4Camera SoftwareVersion 1.0Maximum Lens Aperturef/2.8Focal Length (35mm Equiv)30 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution314 dpiVertical Resolution314 dpiImage Created2024:07:19 18:37:12Exposure Time1/125 secF-Numberf/2.3Exposure ProgramCreativeISO Speed Rating500Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModePatternLight SourceUnknownFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length5.50 mmColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width4608Image Height3072RenderingNormalExposure ModeAutoWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandardGain ControlHigh Gain UpContrastNormalSaturationNormalSharpnessNormal
these are decent. keep posting
>>4341275Thanks, but they only get worse from here[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeOLYMPUS CORPORATIONCamera ModelTG-4Focal Length (35mm Equiv)100 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandExposure ProgramCreativeISO Speed Rating1600Metering ModePatternLight SourceUnknownFlashNo FlashWhite BalanceAuto
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Too sharp, but like the background texture[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeOLYMPUS CORPORATIONCamera ModelTG-4Focal Length (35mm Equiv)30 mmImage-Specific Properties:Exposure ProgramCreativeISO Speed Rating200Metering ModePatternLight SourceUnknownFlashNo FlashWhite BalanceAuto
That's about what I've got, other than shitty phone pics[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeOLYMPUS CORPORATIONCamera ModelTG-4Focal Length (35mm Equiv)57 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandExposure ProgramCreativeISO Speed Rating800Metering ModePatternLight SourceUnknownFlashNo FlashWhite BalanceAuto
>>4341262yup>>4341264>>4341258May want to practice manual focusing if it's on af, it's really hard to keep bugs in focus properly with af and some of these are missing decent focus.May want to increase aperture as well to get more of the bugs in focus from the DoF seeing as the snail is at 2.3f, you're giving it a realllllllly thin DoFMight want to up shutterspeed as well.cool photos either way.Here's a tiger swallowtail I posted in another thread: >>4339642[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeCanonCamera ModelCanon EOS R6m2Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic 13.4 (Windows)Image-Specific Properties:Horizontal Resolution240 dpiVertical Resolution240 dpiImage Created2024:07:13 12:09:43Exposure Time1/800 secF-Numberf/8.0Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating4000Lens Aperturef/8.0Exposure Bias0.7 EVMetering ModePartialFocal Length400.00 mmColor Space InformationUncalibrated
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>>4341440last of what I've recently taken buggo wise[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeCanonCamera ModelCanon EOS R6m2Camera SoftwareDxO PhotoLab 7.6Lens Size100.00 - 400.00 mmFirmware VersionFirmware Version 1.4.0Lens NameRF100-400mm F5.6-8 IS USMImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution300 dpiVertical Resolution300 dpiImage Created2024:07:16 21:10:49Exposure Time1/800 secF-Numberf/8.0Exposure ProgramManualLens Aperturef/8.0Exposure Bias0.7 EVSubject Distance1.43 mFlashNo FlashFocal Length400.00 mmColor Space InformationUncalibratedImage Width2709Image Height2167RenderingNormalExposure ModeManualScene Capture TypeStandardExposure ModeManualFocus TypeManualMetering ModePartialISO Speed RatingAutoSharpnessUnknownSaturationNormalContrastNormalShooting ModeManualImage SizeLargeFocus ModeUnknownDrive ModeUnknownFlash ModeOffCompression SettingFineMacro ModeNormalWhite BalanceAutoExposure Compensation5Sensor ISO Speed288
>>4341438Thanks for the advice anon, fiddling with some settings now. Beatiful pics btw
>>4341474Macro photography is a bitch innately since you're fighting all parts of a camera's technology.You need a high f/ stop (at least double digits) to get any sort of Depth of Field, you need a high shutter speed to minimise the shake of your hands, you need a high ISO to fight against the otherwise low exposure you'll have thanks to the previous two settings. Macro lights, both the expensive kind, or just some sort of fill light you can get past the front of your lens work wonders. So does a standard flash so long as, as I said, it makes it past the top of your lens as it can block the path of light. A tripod also works well, just a small one to steady the camera, or even a monopod to have a bit more stability so you're not fighting the camera like you've got parkinsons.Speaking of terrible DoF, look into focus stacking. You can do this manually by adjusting focus and taking a stack of photos then blending them later, or if your camera is nice, it can do it itself. This relies on the subject being stationary though so not great for anything moving. If you really want to chase this dragon, macro lenses are pricey but you said you have a macro kit from a decade ago which is likely just perfect anyway.Macro is probably the biggest fight for acceptable light save for those hardcore wildlife photographers, but damn is it good it get it right.
>>4341474Thanks mang, There are ways to use AF with back button focusing and smallest point which is how I do it normally for wildlife and 'can' work on bugs but you have to be patient, it's way easier to manual focus with focus peaking however.Keep practicing and having fun.
>>4341477>Macro photography is a bitch innately since you're fighting all parts of a camera's technology.agreed, my shots aren't even true macro just with my rf100-400mm, which can do 0.5x mag so when I'm shooting wildlife I can get 'psuedo' macro shots by hovering at the minimum focus distance at 400mm/f8-9. True macro is an entirely different breed, especially with slide focus rails and shit.>>4341474One warning about focus stacking which may frustrate you at first, especially on very small subjects any changes to lighting/pose/movement can make it go a lil jank/soft. However if you use a function in camera(instead of manually focusing on different points then stacking the images yourself), on a tripod, with fast shutter speeds, and supporting lights it's a lot easier to get consistent results.It's why most extreme macro shots have a back/white background as they're done in a lab/studio. You can practice this around the house with small text/objects in general to have something to consistently test with vs a live creature. It'll help you understand what settings are doing what and what works best for you and what you're trying to achieve, then take those lessons learned back out to the field.
>>4341477Saving all of this, really appreciate the advice. I've got a ring light attatvhment that extends the tiniest bit out from the lense, (pic rel) would it get the job done? and i do have a tiny tripod, which i've yet to test out
>>4341481>which can do 0.5x magsorry I lied, it can do 0.41x mag
>>4341481>rf100-400mmTried for a while using the EFS 55-250 IS STM and some macro tubes to decent effect. Was a fine way to get some distance from the subject but get around 0.5x magnification regardless. Problem was the setup was heavy and I'd be shaking like a leaf. I still use macro tubes with my RF 50mm f/1.8 and it's a pretty suave way of getting about 0.75x. Both tubes gave me nearly 1x but at that point my hood was touching the subject.Currently deciding on what actual macro lens to grab out of the EF 180 and 100mm variants since only then can you get true macro without disturbing your subject. To >>4341258, as long as your hardware isn't the limitation I suggest just practicing with your focus and camera shake. >>4341262 Saturation is fine when it comes to photos like these since you want an image of vibrance and life, so long as you don't overtune it redicuously, the fresh bright colours are welcome.
>>4341483It'll help, any additional light in general will help especially at higher f stops and shutterspeeds.There's very, very, very few instances in macro/widlife photography where you'll wish you had less light lol.Such as getting blown out skies when photographing birds on branches against a bright sky where you need to exposure comp to keep the bird properly exposed, however macro you'll probably never run into something like that as you can easily position around the subject.>>4341485You know, I've never even looked into macro tubes to add to existing lenses. I have a rf 50mm I rarely use myself besides for environmental shots/landscapes, what tubes have you used with it and liked? Might be a new fun usecase for that lens as I recently snagged a tamron SP 35mm Di USD 1.4f(arrives today, pretty hyped) which will take over for my portrait/landscapes/pet stuff.
>>4341483Perfectly fine. M43 Cameras like your pic rel are actually kind of a blessing since you get some "free" focal reach without having 'yuge lenses and potentially distubing the subject. Alternative is a $1000+ setup but as I mentioned, don't get caught up in the gearfagging like I am, and just practice your shots with what you have for now. You'll figure out if your hardware is a limitation or not eventually.While I don't really condone it, if you can manually manipulate your bug subject, or just recompose yourself: getting a flat shot where every part of your subject is the same distance will get more things in focus. I'm not a big fan of messing with anything living for the sake of muh' fatography.>>4341486Canon hasn't made RF tubes yet so everything is Chinesium so far. I have thesehttps://www.ebay.com.au/itm/325855612860Which are a 12+24mm pair that I use on the RF 50mm primarily. The RFS kit lens does not fit the locking mechanisim so you can't use that but every other lens including an EF adpater fit fine. They lock well, no play, made of metal etc. I paid $70 AUD and the next step up is a used 100mm macro lens that goes for about $500. If you have the money I would just suggest going that route, but for $70 they get surprisngly good results.
>>4341488>1488 Thanks for the link Fuhrer, I mean for how cheap they are it's kinda a no brainer to mess with. I don't really shoot macro as a style mostly when I see a cool bug when hiking. Thanks mang.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeCanonCamera ModelCanon EOS R6m2Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic 13.4 (Windows)Image-Specific Properties:Horizontal Resolution240 dpiVertical Resolution240 dpiImage Created2024:06:30 13:54:26Exposure Time1/1600 secF-Numberf/13.0Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating2500Lens Aperturef/13.0Exposure Bias1 EVMetering ModePartialFocal Length400.00 mmColor Space InformationUncalibrated
>>4341486>>4341488Good to know, Of course one tries to avoid fucking with bugs, other than some moving od rocks and shit to find them. oftentimes my presence alone fucks with them a bit cause im way up in their face, which can understandably fuck them off a bit.If an overweight autistic giant lifted my roof off to take pictures of me i'd probabaly be pretty pissed too.
>>4341489As a quick example, here is both (36mm) tubes with my EFS 24mm and my RF 50mm. Go figure the 24mm actually gets me a closer shot to what I think is about 1.25x magnification. Only downside is that I need the EF adapter on me which I need less and less. For general purpose macro I think the RF 50mm works great with the tubes.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeCanonCamera ModelCanon EOS R50Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution350 dpiVertical Resolution350 dpiImage Created2024:07:26 00:10:15Exposure Time1/80 secF-Numberf/22.0Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating51200Lens Aperturef/22.6Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModePatternFlashNo FlashFocal Length24.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width3984Image Height2656RenderingNormalExposure ModeManualWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandard
>>4341495>way up in their faceAvoiding that is partly why most true macro lenses are at least 100mm, and bugmen in general prefer the 200mm versions (canon's is 180mm). Distance to subject matters a lot for anything alive.
>>4341496Oh that's pretty cool, thanks for the examples appreciate it. I'll snag some later this year when I get a rf200-800mm.
>>4341499If you're planning on using the 200-800 with the tubes, the results won't be great. The biggest caveat to tubes is that they work best with wide lenses and basically not at all with telephotos. 200mm might be the limit I'd recommend using and even then it won't buy you much magnification.
>>4341515Nah the rf200-800mm is just for more reach for wildlife(especially small songbirds and killdeer), won't be using it for macro, appreciate the heads up though!
>>4341258based anon going outside and taking photos of things he enjoys
>>4341568Haha thanks anon, ain't that what you all do on this board?
>>4341731Oh my friend, most of this board is brandwars and gearfagging. Gear has its place when spoken of in regards to getting your desired shot, but most faggots here would rather have a bitch about M43 or Snoy.Here, have a chicken.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-Hand
>>4341258>entomology enthusiastyou must be swimming in pussy
>>4341731this is a m43 supremacy board. if you don't macro with m43 you doing it wrong, hombre
>>4341994Unironically M43 kits have a decent advantage in macro photography with some rather nice lenses but I could never tell if the sacrifice was worth it. Had an Olympus with their 60mm macro and it was rather sick. Good working distance, weather sealed, literally half the size of a FF macro kit.>>4341993>Jealous that others have hobbies?I mean... I'd call you a faggot, and I will. Faggot. OP is new to the hobby and is already contributing decent stuff on an entire thread of his own and you're still larping in the gear thread as an average snoy enthusiast.
>>4341731We argue about gear. >mirrorless vs slr>film vs digital>larger sensor vs smaller sensor>[brand] vs [brand]You can have any gear argument you could possibly image. If you want to see photos head over to flickr
>>4342100>we argue about gear because we're poor and haven't bought any yet, cant afford more film, or sold all our nice stuff 2 months after buying itftfy
>>4341731we can apparently even argue about arguing about gear >>4342103
new guy here. I have taken to snapping photos of bugs on the farm where i work. I'd love to try some macro flower pics too. iPhone doesn't really cut it though.Is this Olympus Tough TG-4 worth a couple hundred? Beautiful pics fellas thanks
>>4342140It's mostly good for being drop proof and waterproof. the IQ is pretty close to the nicer android phones (minus AI detail replacement)