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why
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Does the 6 bit coded leica M to nikon Z adapter provide native MF lens capabilities with voigtlander lenses or not
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>>4335442
Because I love my old 16-50PZ
It's the lens I take with me when I'm skiing. Don't care if I fuck up and go down 300m down the slope on my back, my ass, and then face, it's cheap enough that I don't have to worry about it. And I can say it's actually surprisingly sturdy.
t.went down slope

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>>4335442
It's perfect for vlogging though? They improved the only thing that really needed improving which was the AF motor, but downgraded the mount to plastic, Otherwise that's probably as compact as it gets for a kit PZ lens, and it's not like vlogging needs the extra sharpness or other optical crap.
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>>4335450
Idk they could've at least make a lens that covers the damn sensor it is made for.
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>>4335442
I thought the lens said EZ-PZ at first
missed opportunity
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>>4335448
Nice photo and mega based
Miss my NEX-C3 even if it was in pink because got it and the lens for like $80
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>>4335450
>Perfect for vlogging
>36mm equiv after active IS
lol. lmao even.
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>>4335443
Nah? No one? I just want to use the color skopar 35mm f2.5 on my zf dude
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Any recommendations for a cheap panoramic head? Something that is very light, for hiking in the mountains. I don't need some luxury item that will hold 9000kg of DSLR brics, it won't ever see anything that weights more than 800g.
Ideally no ballhead. Instead maybe something like pic related, with angle inclination adjustments on the Y axis, and the 360° pano on the X axis. But lighter. And with that pano thingy at its base, rather than on the top .
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>>4335443
>>4335472
Yes. You get green box focus confirmation, the focus arrow indicators, trap focus, etc. You press the button to set FL for IBIS and EXIF, and can use aperture dial to set aperture for EXIF (up to f5.6).
Regular adapter still lets you have subject detection, but you're stuck with peaking or zoom to confirm focus. The 6-bit adapter is well worth it.
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Hello friends,

I'm looking at a new(er) camera and I was wondering about Canon's ergonomics.
In late production bodies, they started incorporating a D-pad into the rear dial (pic related).
Does this interfere with the use of the rear dial?
I know it does on my PowerShot G10, but it's a lot smaller.
What have your experiences been?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKJJR5WwszU
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Is this a good price or should I do a refurb Canon R50 with 18-45mm kit for $600 + used 55-200MM EF lens and adapter
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>>4335729
As an R50 owner please at least get an R10. You don't get a mechanical shutter, and have to deal with EFCS. Honestly it is worth the extra $200 or so to get the R10.

As for the lens, I adapt an EFS 55-250 IS STM with great results if that interests you.
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>>4335731

I posted in the airplane and questions thread, my use case is gonna involve shooting moving subjects at high speed (planes landing/taking off and action shots of cars at a racetrack/AutoX). Canon has a refurb R50 for $560 and R10 for $800. I wasn't sure about the R10 cause it doesn't have vehicle tracking and I'm a total novice so I thought that would be more useful.

And yeah, my plan is a used telefoto lens like a 55-250 EFS (I can find them for $50-150) + adapter. Otherwise the Sonys have the best lens option due to their compatibility. I don't think it's worth spending the $$$ on a dedicated R lens at my level of skill.
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When is gear?
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Do you really need anything wider than 24mm?
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>>4335745
Certainly not when you have this piece of shit on your camera.
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>>4335745
>Do you need anything wider than 24mm?
>Do you need anything longer than 24mm?
no and nikon not making a good quality pancake/muffin 24mm f2.8 as a real alternative to the snoy tier 26 is a travesty
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>>4335745
I like 21mm

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>>4335761
I think we can quit pretending Nikon actually makes anything anymore. All of this shit, sony, nikon or whatever, is all made in the same fucking place. American businesspeople took over Nikon, shut the fucker down and replaced it with another office slinging the same chinese crap to americans for top dollar with a different label on it as every other "company". All the accrued knowledge of Japans workforce were laid off and their experience wasted. Because the motherfucking shareholders demand it.

Enjoy the z8 & z9 while you can, bc the American business model ultimately destroys everything in the end. Cheapens your product to garbage then consumes all the human and cultural capital your society can afford, then devours itself. It's a death cult. Just look at this fucking thing.
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>>4335745
You might as well ask, why anyone needs anything other than a 50. WHY DOESN'T THE WORLD JUST MAKE ONE LENS

I mean I get that on paper it's great than anyone can get on the internet now, but, retardation is a real problem.
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>>4335825
Thats a lot of schizophrenia to bitch about something that was designed and manufactured by generic asians to brag about some spec sheet item same as everything else asia has ever made

Importers (the nose knows, jose) already destroyed the western camera industry. Japanese shit has never been good. Only slightly better than china at one point.
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>>4335825
It's a well known "secret" that most of Sony and Nikon's lenses are made by Tamron now.
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>>4335825
>ugh why cant niggon go back to muh ai-s lenses that were hot fucking garbage compared to literally anything leica made?
Japanese cameras have NEVER been good. There’s a reason basically all significant photography is split between leica and hasselblad and japshit is only ever used for business reasons (“its the cheapest way to photograph with the least skill required” - japanese camera consoomption, then now and forever)
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>>4335837
And canon’s lenses are still worse. Softer, bigger, more vignetting. And not one iota of character. Just flat mtf charts. No nice pictures. Woops. Guess japanese camera designers are just non-innovative committees of decrepit ex yakuza boomers!
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>>4335638
It's fine. The dial moves easy enough to not press the d-pad keys unless you actually press them.
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>>4335838
Nice Leica cope. So you are the asshole hating on Contax in the film thread I take it?
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>>4335825
This lens is just what happens when non-photographers design things. The pencil pushers said "we should make the smallest lens" and that was their goal. Nikon, canon, sony, minolta, panasonic, and olympus have been controlled by non-photographers for a long, long, long LONG time. Do you really think nikon is so bad? Clearly you haven't seen every other brand. They are ALL bad.

The one and only man in japan to design shit for people who use it instead of board rooms and presentations was Yoshihisa Maitani. He has not designed a camera for a lifetime. Actually, he's dead. Everything else is pure market research, focus group, profit analysis soullessness and you gearfags eat it up
>yes thank you for this 5lb f0.95 prime, m'brand! i totally need it. i never have a camera handy anyways i just like to buy the best according to the spec sheet.
This arrangement has driven so many actual photographers to leica (basically all of them) that supply can not keep up with demand and leica has to charge $5k for a 24mm f1.4.
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>>4335840
>>4335838
True but jap brand fanboys will never admit it

We all only shoot jap shit because it's cheap, and requires no skill to use, it's all wundertech that gets in your way as often as it helps but it lacks any real quality outside of soulless, non-photographic measurements like lp/mms and "modulation transfer functions" <-not a real term, i think i heard it on star trek actually
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>>4335843
>This arrangement has driven so many actual photographers to leica
Nail on the head. Ever wondered why almost all the famous shots are taken on a Leica? They are tools for artists, not little playstation toys for nerds to collect and argue over spec sheets.
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>>4335848
It's been like this for 20 fucking years

We shoot jap shit because it's cheap and as close to leica quality as we can get, but it's still not there and never will be because jap gear is designed for boardrooms and presentations, not photographers. Just look at the Z8 and Z6III or literally any canon. These are not photography tools. These are generic photo generators designed to be a business proposition.
>less employee training
>less chances
>more consistent output
>your news agency will save more money than it spends
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>>4335852
exactly why i got my contax g1. the german zeiss planar 50mm lens lets me just focus on the craft and not get lost in endless spec wars online because i know i bought the best
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>>4335854
Lol even the fujis and zfs are polluted
>how to get out of subject detect, niggon? I want 3d tracking to override this crutch when it fucks up but it wont
>fuji: oooooh i have an idea *breaks 3d tracking*
>leica: optical rangefinders for almost a century, still works fine
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>>4335860
3d tracking is meant to work with subject detect

You need to use the I menu or a full on menu dive to turn it off. No other way.
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>>4335729
>a6000
Does that thing still sell for that much?
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Sony 70-200 F4 OSS Gen 1
Sigma 100-400

Which do I get? I have never shot with anything longer than a 200mm but I feel like I would benefit from the extra reach. Mostly doing telephoto cityscape/landscape.
My feeling is that the 70-200 will be better optically, AF-wise. Not sure if it's worth the tradeoff given that the two lenses are about the same price secondhand.
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>>4335852
>the cameras which produce the most images shot by pros and seen by the most eyes aren't photography tools

>the cameras used mostly by rich people on vacation are photography tools

>>4335768
nice, is that the Loxia? I'm interested
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>>4336005
Yeah it's the Loxia 21.
I'm switching to the Voigtlander 21mm f1.4 soon, though. Just know that there are some issues with Loxias and magnifying view on recent bodies (though actually all bodies can be affected, but recent ones more often than older ones). It's not the only reason I'm switch, as I want a faster aperture for milky way (at ~f2.0 the Voigt will be decent enough regarding coma).
I'll miss its 10 points sunstars, but 12 points are more than acceptable enough.

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Used Sony Zv-e10 for $500 or refurbished Canon R50 for $100 more? R10 is like $3-500 more
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>>4336002
I wouldn't have thought you'd need longer than 200mm and it saves you a bit of weight and size, plus being a bit faster across the range.
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>>4336012
I actually switched from my Loxia 21 to a Tokina Firin 20 f2. I had no idea they made a manual focus version and it was only 300 mint. The image quality is insane on it. Worth testing if you ever come across a copy.
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>>4335953
I think it's cuz of the lens. Sellers on faceberg slow as fuck to reply too. Was gonna do a $600 refurb Canon R50 but this is REALLY tempting, guy just got back to me.
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>>4335843
At the end of the day, you're just poor shaming people. Yeah of course Leica has better build quality but most people also are not going to drop an extra 3k to get a marginal better camera
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>>4336055
Poors are scum, they deserve to be shamed
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>>4335825
>Composes anti-Chink rant
>Posts an image of one of the few non-Chinese made Z primes
Bruh
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>>4335835
>Importers (the nose knows, jose)
The large firms have had their own subsidiaries for decades.
Only boutique manufacturers like Mamiya and Rollei have had to rely on third parties for import.
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>>4335841
Thanks for the word, friend.
I guess I'll get a 7D MkII, at some point.

What is the benefit of the design supposed to be anyway?
Is it so that you can navigate the zoom in playback with the D-pad and move to the next image using the dial wheel?
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>>4335848
>not little playstation toys for nerds to collect
Really?
So Leica users just own one body or two, if they record in both digital and film, at a time?
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Thoughts about the Nikon zf?
I really like the look of it, but the price is hefty.

I enjoy using my canon g5x ii but the limited dynamic range, bad low light and the none-weather sealage is a bit of a let down.
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Pretty bad rolling shutter, would not buy this camera.
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>>4336113
Nikon's best technology in nikon's worst design
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>>4336027
this vs samyang 20 1.8, what do ya think?
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>>4336907
NTA, but can you elaborate? I'm new to photos and also want to get a Df or Zf because they look pretty and my family all shoot Niggon so I can borrow their lenses.
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>>4337074
The Zf's a fat brick that failed to deliver on its expectations and the legacy of the Df.
Meanwhile, the Df maintains full compatibility and functionality with the entire F mount lens library with the only exception (maybe) being the invasive fisheyes.
With that being said, if the top plate dials and superficial aesthetics are enough to keep you happy, go with the Zf.
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>>4336905
would've got the winning shot if he used the A9III instead of the A1
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>>4337104
I had an a6000 and an a7ii and both had that buggy viewfinder sensor that would turn the screen off if you looked at it funny. Wouldn’t be surprised if snoy never fixed it lol
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>>4337104
The sorrows of mirrorless.
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>>4337104
nice bait. that was the camera and photographer that got the most iconic shots yesterday. snoy's 4-axis multi-angle monitor definitely helped get that fist pump shot.
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>>4337167
Looks like the monitor isn't actually off, the glare is just too much for the POV cam to see through. He probably still saw just fine

Sony marketing is stupid if they don't roll with this. Their company just stepped in next to Kodak, Nikon, Leica, and Hasselblad as the tools that make history.
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>"fully articulated" screen users and people with subpar AF will never be able to work with this much speed
tfw
on the other hand
>optical rangefinder+wide prime users have always worked with this much speed
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>>4337179
The Leica user would have had the camera hanging around their neck in fear of damaging it while they tried to take the shots with their phone
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>>4337184
part of being a leica man(tm) is treating your leica like crap. using forehead sweat to clean front elements, keeping primes in jacket pockets, and never using a camera case or bag. the only time the leica man(tm) has a shiny leica is in the few months after leica camera AG offers him a brand ambassador position and gives him the newest model.

the leica man(tm) does not care about resale value. why would he sell his camera? and the leica man(tm) certainly is not worried about repairs. he has at least 2 other leicas on standby.
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Whats a good wide-mid F mount zoom lens? I could get a 90s Nikon 28-85 3.5/4.5 for $60 but maybe there's something better?

right now i have a 20 prime, a 50 prime, and a 50-210
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How scuffed are pictures from snoy's 24mp A7's in crop mode? I wanna go retard mode and upgrade to full frame camera first.
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Bought an a7 mk1
It's pretty neat
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>>4337407
Not scuffed, just not much resolution. It'll leave you enough to display at 4k with a little bit of cropping room.
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>>4337217
>50-210
Do you like it? I'd complement it with a wide zoom rather than a standard zoom if so. Also, is this DX or FX? (I don't know the 50-210) There are some good cheap DX zooms that'll be nicer to use than the FX alternatives.
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>>4337531
i fucked up and conflated two separate lenses, i have a 70-210 FX and a 55-300 DX. I like both of them, the DX one has VR which is nice, but the former will work on my DX body.

Id like something in the 30-80 range so I dont have to swap lenses when I get close to something,
I have a D7000 right now but I will upgrade to fullframe soon enough
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>>4337167
>sticks arm out and presses the shutter at 30fps hoping for a good photo
>>4337175
>as the tools that make history
wrong. sony is nowhere near those. what a joke
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>>4337533
I don't know if it's actually any good, I'll let you look up reviews, but Nikon has a 24-120mm f/4. There's also an f/3.5-5.6 version which would be cheaper.
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>>4337542
What are your credentials?
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>>4335450
bruh you have never used one.
They are hilariously soft, easily the worst of all the kit lenses in terms of IQ, even worse than the olympus 14-42.
Even the non-IS 18-55mm they were selling in canon 1300d kits to indians shopping at k-mart was optically superior.
pure shit.
The Nikon 16-50 Z is awesome, as is the panny 12-35; any lanscape photogrpaher would be happy with either of those
>captcha: w4gy
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>>4337167
Just a standard zoom and living in the moment.
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>>4337629
The 28-60mm on full frame is really good. I wish they would've made it a 24-50 instead though.
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>>4337656
How's its sharpness? I'm thinking about getting an A7C and wonder, should I buy the kit.
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>>4337656
They did make a 24-50

If >>4337167 used a 24-50 the shot would have been the same too, just slightly cropped and then AI upscaled (only us photographers can tell, and only on finely detailed foliage/feathers/animal fur)
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>>4337714
nta, but it has no right being this decent. I just bought it with my A7cII in japan because why the fuck not, it's almost free at that exchange rate, and it's the perfect lens for skiing. I didn't expect to like it that much.
Only downside is how you have to extend the barrel before using it, but it also makes it very compact for storage/transportation, which I like

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what are the options for a reasonably priced 50mm m mount lens?
ttartisan 50/1.4?
voigtländer 50/1.5 heliar classic?
fuckan lomo x zenit jupiter 3+?
used leica glass mint++ with tiny mushroom and tiny scratch?

>the p in /p/ stands for poorfag
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>>4338048
The TTArtisan is solid optically, but relatively large and heavy. Having to calibrate mine was obnoxious.
Super impressed with the 50 f1.5 nokton II, very small and pretty good optically.
Voigt has a new 50mm f2.2 coming out, Typoch also has a newer 50mm f2 too.
If you're US, CameraQuest (main US voigt dist) has good priced mint used options, 50 f1.5 II is $600 atm.
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Absolute brain delete question here. Niggon zf with EF adaptor yes or no?
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>>4338109
No canon lenses suck and are big even on boomer blobs
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>>4338108
>50 f1.5 II is $600 atm
i wish
cheapest i can find in my cunt is roundabout €840 or $915 in mcdollars
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>>4338108
Why does "voigtlander" (cosina chinkshit) charge so much for mediocre manual focus lenses without basic weather sealing? I don't understand.

Some of the lenses are priced like what they actually are (color skopar) but a lot of their lenses are a fucking joke. It's a mediocre third party lens that's missing literally every feature that makes nice new lenses expensive, not a nikon S line or sony G lens with fast quiet autofocus, control rings and buttons, and weather sealing. Even their "sharp" lenses are only high-mediocre in the same class as entry level nikon Z lenses.
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>https://jacktaka.com/voigtlander-50mm-f15-ii
"Optically decent"

ttartisan quality. baby butt soft. the dreaded bokeh that turns fucking GREEN because i just love it when stuff that is slightly out of focus turns fucking green. This is what cosina thinks should be a $600 lens.
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>>4338149
You could have taken a photo instead of posting all of that.
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>>4338151
I did both

I shit on cosinas overpriced chinkshit and took a photo at the exact same time. Fuck voigtlander and their bare bones chinese junk.
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>>4338149
if you think that cosina product is crazy just wait until you find out about the mediocre point and shoots that break if you use them twice, called "contax g".
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>>4338148
outside of m mount, hipsters want manual focus lenses, and hipsters are not smart consumers. they're not driven by value or function, they're driven by each thing on their shelf being special and uncommon. they are just, "consumers". collectors of odd things. eccentric shopping enthusiasts. think of these lenses more like funko pops and less like photographic tools and it makes sense.

on m mount, voigtlander is what you buy when you buy a leica, but are too poor for the whole leica value proposition including leica lenses (it's a luxury brand that holds its value and a complete kit is too expensive for hoodrich fags), in which case you're definitely stupid enough to pay for voigtlander.
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>>4338148
They made those shitty Zeiss manual lenses too.
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>>4338149
holy shit this faggot sucks. this is from a Leica M10 with a VL 50 1.5. Utter dog shit mogged by a Sony a6000 and kit lens hahahah do Leicafaggots really??
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>>4338163
The problem is 90% the lens. These soft lenses just don't have the magic on digital, especially not low res digital like an m10. Bayer interpolation thinks the blur is something else and it becomes simultaneously soft and harsh as the computer guesses at details that dont exist.

High res cameras ironically get nicer rendering out of low res lenses, but in general on digital you should have the sharpest path to the sensor as possible and add your glow in post. On film this would look fine.
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Damn Philip Reeve bodied the M10 in his review.
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/leica-m10-the-camera/
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>>4338167
this was actually gone over in another thread

leica's niche nature prevents their products from actually being that good. it costs money to make these things to a high standard of excellence and leica isn't benefiting from the same economy of scale as a company like nikon or canon. look at hassy/phase one prices, those are better made cameras that are just as niche as leicas.
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>>4338167
holy shit there are some schizos in the comment section of that from April 2020

>Much to my surprise – and disappointment – this blog is apparently cognitively immune to the Covid-pandemic, or still in shock or denial. Still, I kept reading, hoping for at least a mention or irony of getting one’s hands on an M10 in end times. Nope, full German austerity on that.

>Conclusion was of course obvious, the M10 is cute, a temptation just because one can’t afford it, but ultimately a piece of uselessly beautiful camera with no advantages beyond rubbing it in on other’s envy.

>This ultimately says a lot about our current predicament: let’s just keep moving along with the flow, with progress, economic growth, and capitalism – something Covid-19 has suddenly given everyone the ability to imagine an end to – and stick to the business as usual practice of modern day individual realization: consumerism as the very meaning of life, and what ultimately separates us from them. Them: those that lacking immigration status, a work contract or healthcare will inevitably die, and ultimately be lavishly portrayed for posterity in monochrome glory, in some portfolio winner’s exhibit by lensculture in Paris and aperture in NY, once this apocalyptic scenario is under the control of normalization.

>I hope we can all see the urgency of getting our heads out of our arses, and stay the f**k home in lockdown, so we try and flatten the curve of spread of Covid-19, in oder to preserve as much as possible of the ability to respond and treat, of what’s left of health care infrastructure after neoliberalism and austerity turned it into a money machine.

>An R0 3 virus with 20-30 times the mortality rate than the influenza, in 177 countries in less than 3 months, and with over 3/4 million confirmed infected and over 37k deaths, should – I sincerely hope – have more urgency than the IQ of an M10.
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>>4338148
They have their hits and misses, of the 10 I've owned, I think I would only repurchase 4. There's a wide variety in the type of look and performance they offer.
>>4338149
I've yet to find a 50mm that offers me as much in such a small package. If you are aware of any good alternatives, I would love to try them. I do have the 50 APO for when I need "decent" IQ, but I honestly don't it's look as much.
>>4338167
And yet he continues to use them and is still an avid contributor to m-related content (on his site and elsewhere). Honest people can acknowledge faults and limitations of gear and still use and enjoy that gear. He also has reviewed this lens
>https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-voigtlander-vm-50mm-1-5-ii-mc-vintage/

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>Copy and paste from card
>corrupts random raws
>import directly from card
>raws are not corrupt
Does windows or NEF codec corrupt raw files or is this a card error?
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>>4338128
But I have like 10 of the fuckers(mostly zeiss classic mf lenses). Surely niggon is better than fuji for big blob lens?
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>>4338276
Why would you buy a nikon to adapt EF lenses with an awkward "good enough" adapter when the EF-RF adapter is literally a dumb passthrough adapter so the lenses work natively if you do get AF lenses in the same mount

>is the niggon zf good for big lenses
If you have mannest man hands on earth, and the updated neewer grip, otherwise no.
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>>4338280
Thanks fren, guess I'll just get a 5ds
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>>4338187
>And yet he continues to use them and is still an avid contributor to m-related content (on his site and elsewhere). Honest people can acknowledge faults and limitations of gear and still use and enjoy that gear. He also has reviewed this lens

He literally won it for free and the lenses are gifted, and he has a Kolibri modified A7 for rangefinder lenses that is used for all of his M mount lenses for his reviews, dumb dumb.
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I just ordered a Viltrox 27mm f1.2 to replace my Sigma 30mm f1.4 off Amazon prime day deals.

I hope I don't regret blowing so much money.
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>>4338148
Cosina is trash. Always has been. It's so funny seeing """Contax""" retards jerking off over their point and shoots not realizing they are Cosina.
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>>4338391
I'm on the other side, I want to get the Sony 35 1.8 instead to replace my Sigma 30 1.4 for size and weight.
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>>4338391
> HE BOUGHT A VILTROX
Oh no no no
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>>4338525
You still mad?
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>>4338527
I have considered that too. Then I realized it all fits in the same camera bag anyway and it doesn't make too much of a difference.

I'll have to wait and see when I actually get it to see if I still feel the same. I think it's bigger and heavy than my current biggest lens (Sony 18-135mm).
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Let's talk about the endgame of gearfagging: de-gearfaggification.

It's coming for you whether you want it or not. You're going to have to stop one day.

When will you pare it all down to just one camera? Or at least one film, one digital? When will you become like those professionals who are still on their 5div unless their employer payed for the newest magic brick? What's the smallest number of lenses you can get by with? 2 per system? I've talked to actual artists and they seem to tend towards 2 for art and commercial work requires another 2 (if zooms are an option, its different on leica/hassy but those are used by trust fund kids anyways)
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>>4338609
>his
Who is his? Do you talk in the third person?

>*paid
>lmfao
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>>4338599
I'd say 3 lenses minimum unless talking zooms. I'd take 35, 50 and 85 primes and that covers most of everything. Or a 24-70, I'd still take the primes though. The shittier the better.
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>>4338599
I'm degearifying rn. I've calculated that if I sell all my sony crop shit I didn't use for more than half a year, I would be able to get A7C. I'm planning on keeping a6000, 18-55 kit and sugma 56/1.4, then after getting A7C eat shitty ramen until I get sugma I-series 35 and 65 (maybe 90 but for some time a6k gets it covered) besides it's kit zoom.
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>>4338646
>i'm degearifying by ending up with the exact same amount of gear
this mental illness has claimed so many people its sad

t. just got rid of 3 cameras and 4 lenses
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>>4338648
Believe me, that's A LOT more than 4 lenses. They just cost less cuz most of them are shit like 7shartisans 12/2.8 ii or snoy 55-210.
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>>4338652
Just don't keep anything.

If you're not shooting what other people pay you to, you don't need every focal length. You'll probably get better with less.
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Should I pursue bodies from Pentax (K Mount) and Nikon (F Mount) for their abilities to run vintage glass making lenses a lot cheaper than stuff like newer Canons and Sony?
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bigass music festival in town, heres my setup for tomorrow
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>>4338660
If you're going super poorfag then be away that some low end Nikon DSLRs weren't compatible with as many older lenses, they either wouldn't even take photos or they don't have motors for screw drive AF lenses. If you're just thinking about manual lenses and don't mind stopping down the aperture manually then Canon EF and any mirrorless will work just as well as a native body, in fact mirrorless is much better for manual focussing.

Also there are plenty of cheap old EF lenses, and Minolta/Sony A mount lenses you can adapt to Sony mirrorless. Not as cheap as manual focus shit but still worth considering.
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How much of a killer feature is Astrotracer in Pentaxes if I want to take basic bitch night sky pictures?
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>>4338207
lol it turns out nef codec did it. when it generated a corrupt thumbnail it would corrupt a raw file. i uninstalled it and can't get the corruption to happen anymore.
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So I like to photograph anime figures. Currently I'm using my phone (galaxy s23+).

I want to buy a camera thar shoots netter photos than my phone. I plan to make photos in light boxes and sometimes outdoors.

I'm not looking for any super professional stuff since it's just a hobby for me. What decent camera is a good one for me to buy? I'm looking for the best quality for the lowest price. I don't care about the size of the camera so a big bulky body with seperate lenses is fine. Im okay with 2nd hand but I dont know what to look for so it might be risky for me. Any advice? I prefer to keep my budget around 300 - 500 euros.
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>>4338872
You don't need to build lightboxes nor invest in fancy lights, they're not really needed. Just use a lamp you already have and your TV hooked to your computer with a wallpaper as a background, and you've saved a bunch of money already, for equal, if not better, results, and more background flexibility.
As for the camera, just get some mirrorless APS-C in your price range. The important part is the lens, you'll want something long enough to compress background and give you nice enough bokeh, so on APS-C check out 50mm or 35mm I'd go with 35, on APS-C it's the equivalent of 52mm on Full Frame, and you'll still be able to use it for general use. ideally an lens that opens up to f1.8~f2.
You may want a macro lens as well, taking macro shots of figgies is always fun. But if you're on a tight budget, just grab some cheapo extension tubes from aliexpress or whatever, and now your lens is turned into a macro-lens of sorts. Not perfect, it comes with limitations, but for less than 10 bucks you won't beat the price.

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>>4338599
I'm in this stage, peaked to 8 bodies and +20 lenses back in 2022. The gearfagging only stopped when I bought and tried everything I wanted to. Grass is always greener until there's nowhere left.
For personal shooting, I'm now pretty content with 2 bodies and 3 lenses (28, 35, 50).
Hard part is needing more for actual photo work, that's another 1-2 bodies and 2-3 lenses. I'm still playing around with different options for that side of things.
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>>4338906
What did you stick with? I went with the route of just trading similarly priced bodies from different manufacturers until I found what I like and what I need.
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>>4338938
Zf + M10-M, it's a perfect pair for me.
Leaning towards swapping other stuff to Z8, or eventual Z7III.
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>>4339011
You could use the zf for paid work. Nobody really wants nose to print sharp 16x20+ and "le ergos" aren't that big of a deal except when fingerfucking the camera and chimping.
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>>4339013
I can and do use it for some work, but it's not ideal for everything. Picking up a 2nd is a consideration, but I'd like the extra flexibility more.
True about print size, there's a reason I'm not moving back to GFX.
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Has this ever happened to any of you before?

>buy used lens on ebay
>lens arrives two days later
>it comes in a padded envelope like Amazon
>it had an barcode sticker on the box
>lens isnt even the right lens I ordered

Do ebay gear sellers just take you order and look it up on amazon to have them ship the item instead? or was it an honest mistake
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>>4338876
Which APS c do you recommend?

That figure is on my PO list.
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>>4339029
Fuck that noise

Get an original 5d classic. You need to have a high IQ to figure out how to use it in the modern age of SD cards, USB-C and wifi, but it's worth it for the 3d pop and microtonal rendering
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>>4339029
I dunno, for mirrorless APS-C I only ever used Sony cameras, starting from my good old NEX-6 back then (pic related), and then to an a6300. Should still be serviceable for cheap even today, but I don't have enough knowledge about what the competition is doing these days to tell you what to buy or not, you'll have to figure it out yourself, anon. But rather than a camera per se, you should look first into what lens ecosystem you want to go, be it Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fuji or whatever. I know it's hard for a beginner to start from the lenses, but again, it's the ecosystem that matters, and the lenses' prices. Despite not being the cheapest, I choose to go to E-mount back then because I knew I would upgrade to Full Frame at some point, and E-mount already allowed to use FF and APS-C lenses interchangeably on any of its cameras, making an upgrade path smoother, and most importantly, it was and still is quite welcoming of third party lens manufacturers, which means a lot of choice and competition. This is why I went with this mount, but you may seek something else, it's all personal.

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>>4338872
a6000, sigma 18-50, shoot at 50mm
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>>4339011
The Zf seems pretty cool, haven't ever tried Nikon. I use x-t5 with primes and regular zoom now, don't find myself wanting much more out of a camera anymore. The 40mp is a bit excessive though.
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Does any modern sub-2k$ have trap focus?
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>>4339248
Pretty sure most, if not all, of the Nikon Z's do. For adapted lenses, you need a chipped adapter though. Zf (and Z6III) uniquely add subject / eye detection when using MF too. Trap focus + eye detection = easy mode mf.
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>>4338662
How did it went?
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>>4339248
Only the newer nikon Zs and the pentax k-1
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>>4338599
I've sold most of my stuff and now have an A7CII with the following lenses:

Loxia 21 f2.8
SY 24 f1.8
Sigma 45 f2.8
SY 85 f1.4
Sony 28-60 kit lens

I mostly use the Loxia 21 and Sigma 45. On some trips I only take the Sigma. It works for me.
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>>4339023
>its not ideal
>i could ___ better if only i bought…
you’re gearfagging again

go full top shelf and use a sony a1 for all your shooting or just use what you have. there are lots of people using the m11 for commercial shoots. you dont need much, as long as its well executed instead of some awful shit thats somehow worse than a dslr or a fully manual camera (panasonic, old nikon mirrorless, ancient sony mirrorless, newly firmware-fucked fujis - all top shit for pro work, a leica would be more effective because its good at being used how its meant to be used)
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>>4339023
>there's a reason I'm not moving back to GFX
What's that?
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>>4339413
I fully acknowledge I "could" do everything with 1 of a dozen bodies and 1-2 lenses and I'd be fine if I "had to use" most anything on the market, there's not as much fun for me with that though. Also had Sony for a few years, no interest in going back, but they are also good cameras. I do use the M10-M for work too, but it also has limitations.
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>>4339424
>gearfagging is fun
Sasuga

You will never be saved until you meme your way into brand ambassador, start youtubing, and have to show some loyalty (aka the only way to consistently make money off photography)
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>>4339413
>m11
You don't even need more than a m10. They are that good with gorgeous Leica glass.
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>>4339475
On the spec sheet. Yes. You don't need more than an m10. m8, really. But god damn, leica's reliability and customer service always seems to be the worst. The internet is packed with horror stories, and they are corroborated by the partially-functional cameras that get put up on ebay with weird shit like green lining sensors.

If I were loaded enough to shoot leica and shoot it properly (with leica lenses) i would be doing everything I could to make sure I always had the newest camera and a good relationship with the company's PR department. Otherwise I wouldn't bother - it's clear what leica's opinion is, and it echoes the opinion of other self-aggrandizing luxury brands like rolex. If you're not that kind of person, you buy a fuji.
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>>4339476
Poorfag cope. They aren't that expensive if something breaks. Buy another one. The results are worth it. CanikonSony garbage is just so soulless. It's only good for a Sears catalog. Real artists shoot Leica. That's a fact.
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>>4339478
>Poorfag cope. They aren't that expensive if something breaks. Buy another one. The results are worth it. CanikonSony garbage is just so soulless. It's only good for a Sears catalog. Real artists shoot Leica. That's a fact.
Can we see your photos, your brokerage account, your money market fund that currently houses all the cash you owe on your mortgage and aren't paying yet because you're leveraging it, and your $750,000+ home?
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>>4339476
leicas have never been consistently reliable unless they were actually made by minolta. it’s their thing.
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>>4339476
Yeah, Leica's service is awful. All the more reason why I like having different cameras. Most appealing M11 upgrade to me would honestly be in-camera USB-C charging.
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>>4339478
Fancy way to say they make scrap lol
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>>4339480
What kind of cope is this? Making money as a photographer is all about the tools. Top end Sony and Canon bodies are more than Leica and L and GM lenses far, far more. You do know that photographers with talent are rather well paid, right?
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>>4339503
The people you think of aren't artists, they are better paid blue collar workers
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>>4339629
The people you think of aren't artists. They're brand ambassadors. IRL artists mostly rent cameras and show absolutely no brand loyalty. They might be paid to claim to use something in an interview/ad but in practice the interview might say "i won't settle for less than a fuji GFX" but when their assistant forgets to strip exif they get caught using an a1, a d810, and a 5div.
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i have the sigma 16mm f1.4 currently but i miss the versatility of a zoom lens, is this thing a complete piece of shit if i replace the sigma with it?
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>>4339710
Why replace it? They're two quite different lenses
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>>4339740
im a little short on money and i dont think i'd need both, i hike a lot as well so the less cargo the better. of course i do like the sigma but i think if i had to just go with one lens the sony one would be better
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>>4339741
I really recommend against buying superzooms especially cheap sony ones

It might be more weight overall but a collection of small, cheapo primes still has better IQ
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Canon 5D Mark III for a first DSLR for $250?
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I was thinking one with a bag hook would be nice to provide stability to a light tripod, but then a lot of these have weight limits of like 15lbs or so
how light of a bag am I supposed to be hanging on this thing?
also, just general recommendations around like $150?

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>>4339710
The 18-105PZ is the reason I still haven't bought a Zoom on Sony FF, and I'll keep it until I get the equivalent. Love that lens, perfect for hiking and traveling. And it's dirt cheap, to boot.

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>>4339775
Good price.
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>>4339790
I’m puzzled by your question anon, for 35mm film any old “travel tripod” from Amazon would probably be fine. When you say “film” what do you actually mean.
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>>4339790
Any sirui of your choosing

Cheap tripods, very well made, cheaper used on ebay.
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Migrated to a7iii. Do I get:

>35mm 1.4 GM

or

>85mm 1.8 sony + 24 and 35mm Samyang primes?

I can basically get a creme de la creme 35mm or 3 okay to good primes.
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>>4340249
35mm gm for wank, snoy 35mm f2.8 or 40mm f2.5 for travel simple as

(You will sell the GM eventually if you dont shoot professionally)
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>>4340249
Just read up some reviews on the Samyangs, they have some that aren't much good but they also have some that perform very well. I guess it depends on who they're getting the design from. Don't compare it to the GM though because obviously it won't be as good, but you will get three lenses instead of one for the same price so if they're still decent then that's good enough.

For what it's worth I've got the 135mm and I love it, I haven't even bothered to compare it to the Sony because for lens than half the price I'm happy with it.
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>>4340252
>>4340283
thanks anons
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>>4340249
Sigma 90mm f2.8
Sony 40mm f2.5
Sony 24mm f2.8

Simple as.



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