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What's up with huge guy usually not knowing how to fight?
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>>250012
They haven't trained fighting as much, fighters are built like fighters because they train fighting
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>>250012
All points into green mana probably means but that many points into blue mana. Simple.
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>>264596
>green mana
Hit points
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>>265916
Forgot pic

For anyone who has done a martial art

Is it normal to have mixed emotions about it?

None of the stuff I've tried (Boxing, Judo, Wrestling, BJJ)

Has made me instantly think "omg I love this. This is it. I'm doing this for life"

It's usually a combination of "well that was really difficult and tiring, is this worth it, this is going to be difficult but I'll be a better person mentally and physically, I guess.. just stick with it?"

Or were you instantly hooked
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Honestly, I'm pretty new to BJJ so it's probably honeymoon phase but I did do kyokushin for 2 years-ish and I feel about the same. It just feels like a genuine respite from the workday. Everyone's there to learn and improve and we all want the same goal, but when you compare it to the workplace, the workplace is everyone's a fucking faggot and does passive aggressive shit all the damn time. It's just weird since while I really want to sock some people at work and I can't. The people at BJJ are some of the nicest people I've ever met and rolling the shit outta them to get them to tap (but like 99% of the time after a minute I'm tapping in) is just such a great feeling. It's like they say in a lot of game and shows. To really know someone's spirit you just gotta have some physical action. That gay? I mean whatever, it's true.
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>>244716
boxing blew up my abs, makes me feel great after morning heavy bag, and has hot and horny tomboys, its great
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>>244783
>we didn't do randori
like you didn't do it first time? that's normal you gotta make sure someone is 100% not going to fuckup their fall before you get them fighting.
but if the club/gym doesn't ever do randori it must suck a lot because imo the whole ruleset of judo is made to allow safe fighting
>>261947
I agree with this. the only real risk is tai-otoshi at the wrong angle. you can really fucking fly but if you tuck your chin and breakfall you'll be fine. Bjj guys seem to fuck their knees more than judo from what I've seen.
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>>264675
Yeah seoi or drop seoi you can end up going over their head face first. Happened during speed drilling once and I def shat bricks in mid air. But luckily I didn't completely go head first. Someone got drop seoi'd face first and ended up with a bleeding nose luckily. I mostly just end up with sprained toes ALL THE TIME.
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>>244716
I'm 43 and I want to learn drunken boxing. I realize this would be a complete waste of time other than the health benefits, and sort of cringe too probably. Not to mention there's nowhere to actually learn it.

Anyways, I think a lot of the enjoyment you might find comes from a good gym, meaning you're comfortable there, the people are supportive, they don't push you past your comfort level, and it's a positive atmosphere and not one where people are being try hard jerks, but it's also a legit school and not a mcdojo. It's a very unique balance to find, so yeah I think it's less the actual martial art and more the legitimacy of the school and the atmosphere.

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My 10 year old wants to start playing disc golf. Do I buy a starter set or give me the best 3 discs to start and play and he will continue to want to keep in his bag so it’s not wasted money.
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>>264522
how are you not having fun being innawoods with the boys?
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>>258263
>My 10 year old wants to start playing disc golf. Do I buy a starter set or give me the best 3 discs to start and play and he will continue to want to keep in his bag so it’s not wasted money.
I would start him off with just a putter. Bit of a pain in the ass, but getting form down is more important.
Since he's young you are probably going to want to get him lighter discs - 166g for a putter should be good; 172+ will likely be a little difficult to putt with until he's older and has some more hand strength.
5 speeds can be a bit finicky at lower weights, dip up into the 6s and get him something like a 155g MVP Relay.
If he gets decent throwing those two, then look for something like a Blizzard Wraith in the mid 150s.
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>>264522
its still true to the name of golf, you're just gonna suck when you first start out
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>>258263
oh, and might as well get him throwing every which way since he's young
Rhfh & lhbh isnt quite the same thing
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>>259646
>the quick, cheap & easy entry point is the Innova starter kit (aviar, shark, leopard version)
this is also a good suggestion

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Dan in Paris edition

>Banzuke:
http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/

>Fight Schedule & Results:
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/
>Some sumo links and how to watch live:
https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d

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>>265820
May Allah forgive me for saying this but Midnightsumo on Twitch not only restreams the basho live but also does a rerun of each day immediately after that day finishes, meaning you could start watching the whole day at 9am or catch the ending at 4pm or so, but then you don't get to shitpost live.
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>>265820
Sumo has perfect scheduling for us eurofags (if you are a neet or wfh) unless you wanna watch lower division grandpas and kids battle each other.
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Final new before Nagoya
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>>265838
>>265838
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>>265812
Futagoyama really does look awful, like he couldn't care less about being there or how his dipshits do. Is Roga too cool to hang out with them or something?
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>>265729
lol

new to boxing and I keep on walking into punches during exercises, how does one dodge and slip? do south paws have to do it differently?
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>>253686
>>253392
but I am a southpaw
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>>253381
>how does one dodge and slip?
Practice on a slip rope, shadowboxing, double end bag. If you got a friend, have them work mitts for you and let them mix in straights and jabs so you can practice defense.

>>253712
This is the reason I dislike being a lefty.
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got boxer's knuckle ;_;
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>>260218
i got one too years ago.
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>>253386
useless advice. you're not mentioning the most important principle.
>>253381
As far as said important principle.
Here is the most important part.
You need to measure/know the limits of human reaction time(always the same +- a little if guy is bigger=slower or smaller or skinnier=faster) and base everything you do on that.
The actual method of dodging you choose can vary quite a bit(builds/preferences/etc) but all of them depend on this.
I'll try to give you a shorthand estimate for various moves and you can figure the rest out yourself.
Jabs = too fast. can't react if already in range. must always read/predict. The reason why they set the tone and work with everything.
Also the reason your guard should be up ahead of time to cover for misreads on your slips.
Base your slip/parry/sway/any defensive tech or even counters/attacks on mental timings based on the moment you're within the opp's jab range and the moments before and after it too.
Also after you're already in range you need to grasp the mental timings or rhythm of your opp if you happen to go into an extended exchange.
Alot of this is based on constantly anticipating moves and moving preemptively.
Preemptive empty leading slipping/approaching/retreating movements can alter/control the opp's timing for attack so you should do those all the time. Since you're leading their aim and timing they'll need to also read you to land a hit. Then from this point on it becomes a constant reading match between the two of you and the one who understands the other better and makes more correct bets on everything will win.
Outside of jabs/unreactable moves anything else that is slower can be used as a feint on whether they will fully commit or not on the strong swing and they all intertwine with the jab metagame(via combos/feints/hiding moves behind other moves/fcking around with distance and aim/etc).

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Does /xs/ prefer step or strap on bindings? Do step ons work in deep powder?
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I'm having a shit time at the moment in Les Arcs, my boots are really fucking sore on my soles and calfs, I don't know if the board is even set up properly.

It at the state where every slope I need to take a rest after.

Also I'm on antibiotics, so maybe that's a reason.
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>>259832
Are your boots or bindings too tight? I kept getting foot cramps and loosened both a bit and I'm doing better now. Need to change the degree on my front binding though because I'm at 0 (have been so for the 20+ years I've been boarding) and now my front knee is starting to hurt bad when it bends as I go over bumps. My while right is ancient and falling apart piece by piece on the mountain.
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>>259844
I actually went down on the size and It helped a lot.

As for the binding, I didn't get that sorted cause the French guy was like 'aye mmuh sorrea, aye cannuh helph yuh'
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>>260142
Made that French guy sound Japanese
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'sup from /out/
I'm looking to get some goggles on summer markdown for winter hiking, should I just look for a flagship model like smith 4d? Are Anon Optics any good? The whole magnetic balaclava and face mask system looks really slick.

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What's the best belt system out there?
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>>262046
This but with some minimum population requirement
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>>262116
>>262121
Nah, the point is when you compete the other guy is going full out. And when you go state it's the guy who won against another guy going full out. Impossible to equalize anyway, an underpopulated place could have a world champ living there or something.
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>>261247
Belts are based. Martial arts = sinking 100s of hours into suboptimally preparing for a scenario that is statistically unlikely. But if you get a belt on top, it adds a cool larp aspect. "John Doe, just a regular office worker, but secretly a karate black belt"
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>>261162
>What's the best belt system out there?
gun belt
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white = student
black = master
that's all you need. if you're still under a teacher you're a student.

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How viable/worth learning is wrestling? How do you learn wrestling as an adult? (catch or freestyle)
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>>265130
Bjj
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>>265130
>How viable/worth learning is wrestling
Extremely so
>How do you learn wrestling as an adult?
By walking into a wrestling gym and asking to train there. If there are none near you, no-gi BJJ is the next best thing, and after that jacketed styles like gi BJJ, Judo or Sambo
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>>265130
>How do you learn wrestling as an adult?
Functionally impossible. You can learn it at any high school in America but if you missed that you're fucked. Practically speaking you can only learn BJJ, MMA or Judo, and pick up whatever bits of wrestling they teach. Probably MMA is the most practical among those.

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Dan über alles

>Banzuke:
http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/

>Fight Schedule & Results:
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/
>Some sumo links and how to watch live:
https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d

previous thread >>263556
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Who is our favorite to win now that Onosharto can't beat makushitters, Horse is too injured for practice, and WakatakaKOGA is injuring himself out?
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>>265221
We always make a new thread here, not just the Danfag.
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>>265210
https://www.sanspo.com/article/20260702-MSTPNYK7GFLDJPUVBGTIGRMKDA/
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>>265224
We used to at least wait until image limit, there is no rush otherwise
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>>265232
Okay, Boomer.

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i've been thinking about how martial arts have been losing their essence (mainly self-defense) due to monetization and shitty federations. i mean what the fuck is up with charging money for exams and belts?? i mean of course they are gonna give you the fucking belt if you pay for it, so what's the point of the system? back then, there were just black and white belts, nothing else and no charging for becoming a black belt, just raw technique and knowledge, and actual use of the art (self-defense as well).

i say this as an actual practicioner of taekwondo itf and i admit it has the stupidiest ferderation system ever (there are like 8 different branches, each claiming that they teach the "original taekwondo" while not teaching throws, takedowns or submissions) as well as the dumb fucking pay-for-your-exam-and-belt shit, as if the monthly fee didn't exist. it's ridiculous and sad, and i realized this now since i've been doing boxing and judo and holy shit it's a whole different world; boxing is awesome and has no charges besides the suscription and equipment, the rest is just training and sparring; same with judo except there are exams but they are like once a year for every student, unlike other arts where there is an exam every three months for everyone.

so i wanted to ask, what do you think? are martial arts getting worse due to greed? are there any exceptions (like boxing or judo in my experience)?

personally, i'll keep doing taekwondo 'till the red belt, because i like it a lot and it was my first martial art, but i'm not gonna pay like 200 dollars for a black piece of cloth on ny waist.
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>>264671
I think the little time I had in the karate dojos was worth it. I wouldn’t mind doing Goju Ryu or Kyokushin in addition to kickboxing but I don’t have enough time or money for that.
>do you think those aspects are crucial for a gym's quality?
I think that if you’re taking any kind of striking class to actually learn how to win a fight then you have to have bag work, pad work, and at least sparring if not competition.
>why didn't you go to a kickboxing gym?
Kickboxing culture doesn’t exist in the US the same way it does in some other parts of the world, to make matters worse I’m in the southeast away from any major cities. To go to a pure kickboxing gym that taught anything close to K1 rules kickboxing I’d have to drive hours.
> how has been your experience with mma?
I haven’t done any of the MMA or grappling classes, just boxing and kickboxing. Everyone seems nice and welcoming. It has way more students than some of the other places I’ve tried, I don’t think any of the coaches will know my name for months. I may also start going to a local Jiu Jitsu place once a week since they have a weekly free class for cops. I’m probably going to wait until I get in better shape kickboxing before I try to learn two styles at once though. Kudo is cool, I’d try it if I had it near me.
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>>264676
>but I don’t have enough time or money for that
i feel you, i'd be doing lots of stuff if it wasn't for that

>you have to have bag work, pad work, and at least sparring if not competition
makes sense, i'll keep those in mind when i look for another striking martial art, thanks!

>Kickboxing culture doesn’t exist in the US the same way it does in some other parts of the world
wow that sucks, i thought the US would have a lot of kickboxing gyms around, considering they had the whole full contact era and all that

>just boxing and kickboxing
ooooh i thought you were doing mma, well i'm glad you found a place to do kickboxing ^_________^

>Everyone seems nice and welcoming
lucky you, hope it stays that way

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>>264662
When I met my current teacher in person the first time for a tour he was teaching at this dinky little place in a plaza. Everything he was telling me was legit and wasn't anything fantastical. He does charge a down payment which can be considered a red flag but he does it to make sure that you are committed to training with him.

For the two years Ive been with him Ive learned more actual fighting and karate than I have in other places in the 5 years prior. I think a good checklist to finding a good school is consistent, realistic sparring and drilling as well as the general culture and language. He's ex-military so he won't mince words about bullshit kata application and fighting techniques. It also helps that he isn't braggy about his military past but don't get him started on how they trained "back in his day".

There are still slight issues I have with the school. We've had to change locations twice in the past year due to external factors which halted the flow of training. Sometimes he'll show us a drill or technique once and expect us to remember it 6 months later. That being said I'm more than satisfied with my experience there and am grateful I didn't sign up for another lackluster karate school
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>>264913
>He does charge a down payment
well i gotta say i wouldn't have paid (i'm broke asf), but how much was it? and how did you know he wasn't trying to simply get money out of you?

>Ive learned more actual fighting and karate than I have in other places
i'm glad you found such a great instructor, what style do you practice?

>realistic sparring and drilling
i'm sorry if i'm dense but what would you call "realistic sparring and drilling", do you use protections? is it full contact? do you do those self-defense drills like hapkidoins?

>general culture and language
do you mean you all use the correct japanese terms and all that? or something else?

>am grateful I didn't sign up for another lackluster karate school
how was it like to train at those other karate schools and how did you realize they were "lackluster"?

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>>264960
I do Goju Ryu after trying Shorin Ryu and Kyoskushin and it feels the best for me. Originally I wanted to do Uechi Ryu but no schools near me. Good dojo culture is just making sure the school isn't drinking the kool aid and getting too into the tradition, as well as hazing and other bullshit. I've done a 180 on my thoughts about Kata and I think its important, so slow controlled drills and sparing implementing kata techniques. Then of course hard knockdown sparring to remember what its like to get hit.

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Not looking at that fat man with pink shorts for a month edition

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>>265819
This is a blog my board faggot

Would you wallride the bean?
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I wish people posted more pictures this is a Imageboard faggots
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>>265818
nah hes 35 and not going to go pro.
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>>265772
And you got some boof too

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I just want the assurance that I can defend myself should it come to that INB4 get a gun, I live in Canada so I can't. I'm thinking about joining an MMA gym to do all of it but I don't think I would be able to put in the requisite time for both grappling and striking training while still lifting and doing cardio. If it is possible please tell me because I plan on going to the fighting classes 3-4 times a week, also please give me info on how much to spar including hard sparring, I want to get decent as fast as possible
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im new to this board but please don't tell me you guys are just /fit/ lite with the retarded questions
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>>251752
Nothing beats a well-placed pipebomb.

>>264164
>im new to this board but please don't tell me you guys are just [...] retarded
welcome to 4chan
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Freddie Lee Modern Kung Fu™
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>>264617
Broooo is he still out there doing his thing? I was actually subscribed to his yt for a time until it slowly dawned on me that he is unhinged.
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>>259979
Good post.
I might qualify "kickboxing" with "preferably muay thai".
And if you've got some more time, I'd recommend a _little_ bit of wrestling, enough to cover the fundamentals even if you won't become good enough to match an actual/practicing wrestler.
A real wrestler is exceedingly unlikely to be attacking anyone without good reason. No need to devote time for that possibility.
But if you're on the ground with a wrong 'un, you'll be a whole lot better off if you have some muscle memory in grappling.

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/archery/ Thread #3
/archg/

Let's keep this bad boy going!

What's your style?
What you shooting?
What you hitting?
Recs for bows?
I bought a yumi, oh god, I'm a fucking moron, please help.
What you wearing?
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>>262138
Think something like this starter kit is worth the money? The bow itself is only ~$130-$150 compared to a little over $200 for https://www.amazon.com/Samick-Sage-Takedown-Recurve-Protection/dp/B093MVPQB4?th=1 I've got a pullup bar and I can go back to lifting my regular 40lb dumbbell to build upper body strength easily. Also I've got a yard for over 100ft to work with so I'll probably build a post with a big target and then I have basically unlimited practice time. Of course I want to work on form yeah I've lifted enough in the past to respect form lol
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>>263522
Eh personally I wouldn't buy it since 50+ bucks seems a bit overpriced for those items alone but if you don't want to buy all of it separately and have the money to spend then sure, go for it. It's just that for 50+ dollars you could buy a lot more chink arrows which will do the job just fine, also
>I've got a yard for over 100ft to work with
I know it won't sound exciting but it's better to avoid starting off by shooting long distance or at least not doing so before you learn the basics, instead just focus on technique, release and overall form for the first few sessions
have fun
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>>264519
>Eh personally I wouldn't buy it since 50+ bucks seems a bit overpriced for those items alone
That's fair. What type of items do you believe to be 'essential' then, as far as accessories go?
>>264519
>I know it won't sound exciting but it's better to avoid starting off by shooting long distance
Oh definitely. I was thinking out loud when I typed that. If I want to practice shooting then I can just go outside any time I want. I wouldn't need to drive to some archery range or wherever, y'know?
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>>264569
In my opinion the only essential things would be an arrow rest for your bow, (I can't remember if my samick sage came with one or if I had to buy it separately) and a finger tab.
You will string slap your arm a few times at the beginning so if you want you can also get an arm guard but I never found them necessary because with a bow like this, as long as you shoot properly, you shouldn't hit your arm.
You definitely don't need a quiver especially since you'll be shooting in your yard you can just stick the arrows in the ground or behind your belt.
As for the target you can buy a portable one or just make one out of something like old carpets folded together or horsemats.
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I currently shoot a 40 lb Blackfoot Penthalon longbow, but I have to admit it's a bit too heavy for longer sessions. I'm thinking about selling it and going down to 35 lb.
I'm considering trying a traditional recurve. Is there much of a difference between one-piece and takedown? Are the speed and power different?
Also any recommendation?

Do you guys make notes and diagrams for your martial arts and have reference books?
I have been thinking about getting the Kodokan book since I won't be doing judo for the foreseeable future and also making notes for my karate and judo.
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>>264808
>Kuzushi is fake though
MCMAP just calls it "unbalancing" if the Japanese term is confusing you. They teach throws with the exact same system, same eight directions of kuzushi/unbalancing.
>If you go for a double leg, You are making a connection and "creating the shape" before doing anything to his balance
You are not a wrestler. There are a multitude of tricks and setups to fuck with someone's balance and momentum (kuzushi) before attempting a shot.
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>>264809
Unbalancing someone isn't a step in the process, it's the end goal
This is why people have so much trouble knocking each other over when its the most piss easy thing to do, they're not focusing their intention

People practice this shit like it's a waltz they actually count it out 123 123 step turn lift step turn lift
That's not real, it's barely a step above chi blasts. I can't even talk to judo people about this because I'm dealing with retards
This guy who is a physican mind you said not to lift weights "that's time you could've spent training"
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>>264814
>I can't even talk to judo people about this because I'm dealing with retards
I've been genuinely wondering if you are low- to mid-functioning autistic because of the way you hamstring yourself with asinine absolutes and don't seem to grasp abstract concepts.
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>>264815
Abstraction is exactly what Im trying to avoid
I'm rejecting judo as a philosophy and a system
"maximum efficiency, minimum effort"
I say "maximum effectiveness, efficiency is irrelevant" if it was effective then it was exactly as efficient as it needed to be

I reject 8 directions
A circle isn't 8 directions, why only 8, why not 16, why not 137? Because 8 is important in Buddhism and the old midget in a dress said so
And then there's the clasifications, Nami, kata, and gyaku jime are the same exact move for example
The direction your thumb is pointing is wholly irrelevant to mechanically choking someone
You could even complete that choke without gripping at all because the wrist bone is what's applying the pressure
There is too much internal focus on what your body is doing and not enough on the external of how is it affecting the other person

How often have you seen people fumbling around because they can't finish these basic ass collar chokes and it's because they're so transfixed about having the precise correct grip, making sure that their 4 fingers are hooking just right, and their thumbs aren't facing the wrong direction, Meanwhile they have no pressure on the arteries
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>>264819
>I say "maximum effectiveness, efficiency is irrelevant" if it was effective then it was exactly as efficient as it needed to be
Nobody who trains seriously in any fighting discipline thinks this. You can easily gas yourself out prematurely with effective techniques executed inefficiently or with excess force.
>A circle isn't 8 directions, why only 8, why not 16, why not 137?
The same reason a typical compass rose is in eight directions: straight, sideways, and diagonal are good enough for a coarse description of the direction in which a human body is moving across the ground. Sometimes a specific direction between the eight is discussed for some niche application just like sometimes north-east-east is useful when giving a more precise heading but usually the eight are specific enough.
>And then there's the clasifications, Nami, kata, and gyaku jime are the same exact move for example
These are similar choke variations but are not the "same exact move," which should be obvious to the guy who needs all 360 degrees of kuzushi defined for him.
>There is too much internal focus on what your body is doing and not enough on the external of how is it affecting the other person
Every submission grappling school I've visited, judo included, explains how chokes work to the students so that they understand what they're trying to accomplish with the techniques they're learning.
>How often have you seen people fumbling around because they can't finish these basic ass collar chokes and it's because they're so transfixed about having the precise correct grip, making sure that their 4 fingers are hooking just right, and their thumbs aren't facing the wrong direction, Meanwhile they have no pressure on the arteries
Basically never, but perhaps that's because I've never coached the special needs class. You teach people the objective and then show them some tools with which they can achieve that objective and they usually figure it out pretty quickly.

I surf at the same beach as Medina. I’ve been surfing here since I was a child, and I’ve been coming to this place since I was two months old (not joking, btw). I know this board is slow asf, but I’ve noticed from surfing generals that there are a lot of people interested in surfing here. So if you have any questions about the sport or this magical place called Maresias, feel free to ask me anything.
I’ll leave this thread open on my PC tab.
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Are Brazilian surfers as annoying in Brazil as they are in other countries?
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>>264753
Not really. It depends a lot on the beach. In Arpoador, Rio de Janeiro, you have a lot of toxic mfs who will snake and get snaked all the time. There’s no order at all; it’s like four guys going for the same wave. The same applies to Guarujá, in São Paulo.

In Maresias, though, you have crowded spots with around 40 people, and you rarely see any snaking or fighting. I’ve been surfing in Maresias for more than 10 years, and I’ve never seen a fight. I have been called out during my teenage years for taking too many waves at least 5 or 6 times (I’m a bigger-wave longboarder, so I tend to catch far more waves than shortboarders), but I’ve never been kicked out of the water or threatened with violence. Never been called out again, let shortboarder get their waves and always get good ones to
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I would say that at least in Maresias, its pretty disciplined and you will most likely not meet many assholes


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