race you to the tawara edition
>>217298Reminder
>>217331Why didn't they fuck?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56GGgGaV7rs
To be honest guysit's depressing me that I will never get to be a yokozuna or perform a dohyo-iriall because I was born in America and had never heard of sumo until I was too old to try itit's like having a stillborn dream
>>217366The flipside of your dream Is having chronic back pain and dying of a heart attack at 60
>>217367Probably still accurate.
>>217368Nah my back is in good shape and and I'm in decent condition. Probably still die younger though since I'm 6'4".
>>217370I hope you do.
>>217371I hope they don't, just to cancel out yours.
>>217372Thanks bro>>217371Don't worry, manlet jealousy is just a fact of life for men like me, I don't take it personally
>>217366There are approximately 60 million Japanese men alive today. Only seven of them have worn that rope. The odds would have been against you, even if you were Japanese.
>>217366Technically you can be a yokozuna if you find one of the regional stone lifting competitions and win it. They use sumo ranks too, including yokozuna.
>>217377A fun idea. I could definitely do that. I used to compete in the highland games so it's right up my alley.>>217376Not to dox myself but I have set a couple strength records. I don't doubt my abilities. Hell, if the JSA raised the max age to my current age I'd fly to Japan tomorrow.
Asanoyama's comeback, does he win makushita?
>>217415Is he actually returning for the January basho? If he's been recovering well, it should be a 6-1 minimum, but I imagine some random MsTD schmuck will get a lucky win on him to deny the zensho-yusho.
November 2025: Asanoyama makes it back to makuuchi and snaps chicken legs' ankle again
>>217331>"kimarite, uwatedashinage"
>>217366If you weren't a high level athlete in a sport growing up, it wasn't going to happen no matter where you were born
>>217422I dunno about that fellow, but in my youth I was the best foosball player this state has ever seen, I could easily have been yokozuna.
>>217424Haha, don't sweat it bro. The aspersions of the weak don't bother me, they never have. Frankly, it must be quite sad to have so little self confidence. I feel bad for you guys lol.
>>217425It isn't normal or confident for a random American to think he could rise to the top of ozumo. It's the arrogance of an inflated ego. It's precisely that arrogance which has prevented you from being as successful as you think you could be. It doesn't matter how much weight you can lift or how loudly you shout that your detractors are just jealous of your power, if you can't muster up the strength to humble yourself then you'll forever look at men like a Yokozuna with envy.
>>217442You over value sumo their technical skills are so fucking bad they don’t understand what an under hook is on top of their other shit. There’s a reason why mongols dick whipped them for 20 years to the point they made a rule to stop foreigners from taking over their primitive grappling sport.
>>217445>their technical skills are so fucking bad they don’t understand what an under hookFor sandamne shitters sure, but anyone who makes yokozuna is at least competent at wrestling, including the oshi specialists.
>>217447>yeah but the highest rankers knows what they teach grade schoolers
>>217445>>217448Stop exaggerating. You can see guys doing underhooks/overhooks at jonokuchi level. It's asinine to think guys who spend their whole lives wrestling can't figure out a concept universal to all grappling arts.
>>217445Cope.
Weaklings mad lol
To be honest I thought you guys would commiserate because we all love sumo, but it seems the general self-opinion here is that you'd never make it, you'd never do anything of worth, you suck, and you're weak. Bros, I think that is just sad. Why be like this? Who would want to hang out with people like this? I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.
>>217467Nabatame deserves to be demoted. He was the lowest rank in juryo and he had a losing record, so he should be reduced in rank accordingly. Its unfair to sumo fans and the the other rikishi to give him favoritism, he did nothing to earn a juryo rank so he shouldn't have one.
>>217467You look at top rikishis and think "I could do better than him". That's insulting to anyone who actually loves sumo.
>>217471That's not insulting at all. It's only insulting if you're a shitey little worm like you.
To be honest guysit's depressing me that I will never get to be a jonidan or get a 0-7 make-koshiall because I was born in America and had never heard of sumo until I was too old to try itit's like having a stillborn dream>this is what losers actually think your aspirations should be likePathetic, truly. Pathetic. If this is your attitude, you're a fucking loser.
>>217467You are mentally ill. Please stop using the internet.
>>217469Lmao stay mad >>217467I think I could have easily made it to top 30 makushita. Everyone below that are certified shitters.
>rikishi are technical >proceeds to lose the next 20 years to wrestlers that know the basics>dominated so bad they had to make a rule to stop getting shit on by foreigners I love sumo but it’s such a shit grappling sport from a technical standpoint and if you disagree you’ve never put on a gi or been on a grappling mat. How can you dispute the whenever 4 of the top 10 greatest are foreigners and only 1 of the Japanese goats are recent the others are before the 90s.
>>217498>muh foreigner dominationThere's plenty of foreign wrestlers who never make it past being maegashitters. Asashoryu and Hakuho are outliers. >if you disagree you’ve never put on a gi or been on a grappling matpost your belts, medals, and trophies
>>217500>b-b-but muh outliers >doesn’t win a title for a DECADE>only started winning because they were forced to step up their grappling and the one foreigner rule so they could lessen the ass blasting Sumo is a valid and technical grappling art btw
>>217501>didn't post rankconfirmed for never putting on a gi or been on a grappling mat
>>217502Grappling is for literal homosexual faggots That's why rikishi aren't into it
>>217501
Somehow...Chris has returned
>>217501Sumo isn't a "grappling art", sumo is sumo. The man who wins the title is the man who does the best sumo. The JSA doesn't care about your faggy martial arts, and nor do we.
>>217524He didn’t talk about kotozakura crazy how he can win a title and start a legit Yokozuna run but gets no flowers. If I was zak this would fire me up no partying just work and rest.
>>217524Did you think he was gone? You can see on his patreon he's constantly posting footage of 15 year old boys wrestling.
>>217540I would never go on patreon
え?
imagine 20 years into the future, hakuho and futagoyama both reach 65 years old and retire, hakuho has raised 4 yokozunas and a dozen ozekis, dominating sanyaku and taking how countless emperors cups, but futagoyama regardless having raised only one sekitori who peaked at m4, is far wealthier than hakuho because he put videos of rishiki farting on youtube
>>217569Two sekitori.
>>217569Old man Futagoyama isn't making it to 50, let alone 65.
Do y’all think zak had it rough growing up with his gramps who was from a rough and tougher time in sumo? I imagine his pops was rough too being trained by zakura I
>>2175711.5 sekitori
>>217569>hakuho has raised 4 yokozunas and a dozen ozekis>Hakuho raising good prospectslollmaoHe got carried hard by Makushitter Tsukedashi candidates. Dudes like Isegahama run circles around Hakuho in the raising sekitori department.
>>217571Soon to be 3 Mita will make it next year.
>>217582Mita won't make it, he is a midget. Smaller than Midorifuji.
>>217583He's only 2cm shorter than Ura
>>217298>Schedule:https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnTicket/year_schedule/>Banzuke:http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx>All the sumo links and how to watch live:https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d>>213766Unrelated, what are your hopes for sumo in 2025?
>>217589Having an actual yokozuna for more than one year would be pretty sick. I started following sumo for Aki 2020 and by then Hak+Kak were already one foot in the grave, and we only got about one good year out of Teru before his everything started shitting the bed tooI'd like to see nephew get the rope because I find is retarded shitheel antics enjoyable, but I'd settle for zACK or onosatoMan, remember when Kiri and wktkkg seemed like possible yokozuna candidates? A year ago somehow feels so far away...
>>217590The clown era hasn't peaked yet. The next Yokozuna will spend a year jobbing to rankers.
>>217594mortal lock guarantee onosato is 9-6 the basho after he gets the rope
>>217589>Unrelated, what are your hopes for sumo in 2025?At least one new yokozuna by the time they get to London. I think Hakkaku is hoping for that too.
Sumo stable rankings (unofficial)1. Iseghama - Yokozuka + 6 overall in makuuchi, undoubtedly the top stable2. Oitekaze - 6 sekitori, sekiwake highest3. Kise - 6 sekitori, most in juryo4 Sadogatake - ozeki + 1 in makuuchi and another in juryo5. Arashio - 2 in sanyaku + ching chong juryo6. Takadagawa - 2 M13s + 2 in juryo 7. Tatsunami - ozeki + 1 in makuuchi8. Nishonoseki - ozeki + 1 in juryo9. Tokitsukaze - 2 in makuuchi + chaos magik10. Sakaigawa - 2 in makuuchi11.Hakkaku - 1 in makuuchi, soon to be 212. Kataonami - 1 eternally in makuuchi, another about to make a brief appearance before heading back down to juryo 13. Hanaregoma - 1 in makuuchi, 1 in juryo14. Isenoumi - 1 in makuuchi, 1 in lower juryo15. Onomatsu - 1 in lower makuuchi, 1 in lower juryo16. Fujishima - 1 in makuuchi (but its bushozan), 1 in juryo17. Nakamura - 2 in upper juryo 18. Shikoroyama - 1 Abi19. Tokiwayama - 1 Takanosho, 1 former ozeki20. Futagoyama - 1 in makuuchi, 1 dingleberry dangling off the absolute ass end of juryo 21. Kokonoe - somehow manages to have 1 in makuuchi & 1 in juryo and still be worse than Futagoyama22. Ikazuchi - 1 Shishihow good is this ordering and which did I get in the wrong order?
>>217607Ajigawa unaccounted for. Naruto unaccounted for. I don't want to be that guy, but did you consider the potential sekitori within those stables or are you just counting the current ones?
>>217607>>217608Also it's missing Kasugano.
>>217546It took me two seconds to get from his channel to his patreon when you started posting the "Chris is dead" stuff.
>>217586>while you were failing to fuck hostesses due to your gut fat, I was studying the blade
>>217607Tamanoi? You missed quite a few heya, fren
>>217589>what are your hopes for sumo in 2025?A world tour so I can go grab some autographs on real hand prints.
>>217589>what are your hopes for sumo in 2025?The return of Shunjuen
>>217589The gay boyfriends match fixing scandal. It's only a matter of time in such a homoerotically charged environment.
The beya system is an embarressment. Imagine being 30y old and having to share a giant room with 18y olds just because you're in makushita.You obviously can't have a girlfriend in this environment, have to entertain their juvenile speech, have to do chores for a 20y old just because he's juryo...Name one other sport where an athlete's professional life is just one never ending bootcamp.
>>217607Better to put them in tiers, I think.Those stables with one sekitori and a dozen shitters are all basically equal.Also, you missed a bunch of stables.
>>217626Git gud
>>217607>No Dewanoumi
>>217590Wtk was never going to make ozeki let alone yokozuna
>>217626You do realise you can just retire from sumo whenever you like, don't you? Nobody is forcing those 30 year old perma-jobbers to hang around with teenagers or do chores. Of course, when they do quit, whether that be at 25 or at 45, they'll have to work awful low-paid jobs and live lonely lives in tiny apartments. They can't and won't suddenly stop being losers. For many men like this, life in a stable, with all its drawbacks, is an infinitely warmer, happier, and more appealing prospect than life on the outside. They've been there since they were 15 - they're completely institutionalised.
>>217646if their stable has a good supporters club then they end up with pretty good jobs
>>217626It’s hard for zoomies to understand but some people are not afraid of working. They don’t want to sit alone in their goon cave and jerk off to tranny porn all day.
>>217642
>>217647>ifLook at that abortive attempt at a stable rankings list above. Sure, if you're in a prestigious and well-connected stable, someone might take pity on you and pull the relevant strings. But there's only ever so many chanko restaurants waiting for a middle-aged loser to run them at any given time, and if your oyakata has failed not only in turning you into a competent wrestler, but also in introducing you to a proper network of contacts, you're shit out of luck.
>>217646>>217652There's a reason they tell everyone that sumo is a way of life, and not a sport.
>>217619>Tamanoinot a real stable, having 1 shitter in juryo doesn't make the grade
Who are going to be the protagonists of the 2025 season?
>>217651They were working him hard
>>217621lmao like that'll ever happen
a new ep of doskoi sumo salon has been dubbed
>>217738Sugoi
https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/mica-collection-mica-ertegun-new-york-online/utagawa-kunisada-1786-1864-1245/238241?ldp_breadcrumb=back
>>217701Whoever gets the rope first
>>217717The Return is coming
>>217586Ura of the Shining Peace will spearhead the glorious return to his native Osaka Sumo until our demands are met
>>217701Kotozakura is already the protagonist of sumo
I promise that I won't job in January, /sumo;
>>217783Ganbare!
>>217783I don't believe you, Onokatsu
>>217746vertical or horizontal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp4nU5CJstY
Onosho has retired.
>>217830Man, gonna miss him. He was usually good for an exciting fight.
>>217832Damn that sucks he was undersized but had that fucking dawg in him
>>217830Thats a shame. Loved his victory over Hakuho during the first covid tournament.
onoshover
RIP
>>217844Christ walking amongst the masses
>>217701I hope someone will get a jump in skill like Kiribayama did a couple of years ago and start a ozeki run. Could be Kotoshoho, or Gonoyama.
>>217881It might be time for kotoshoho to take a jump in skill but we don’t know the extent of his knee injuries for some reason it seems to bother him every other tournament. Zak had a knee problem but has recovered spectacularly despite being way heavier.
>>217881Could be Oho. He's still quite young and he's been able to survive in the joi all year, more or less.
>>217895I want to believe in Oho and the genetics of Taiho, but I don't know. The guy doesn't inspire anything. Yeah it was pretty cool to fight through the broken orbital in the basho before last, but the last one was a total wet fart.
>>217881Abi will be ozeki
>>217900>Yeah it was pretty cool to fight through the broken orbital in the basho before lastThat was the moment it hit me that he just might actually have what it takes. He was still headbutting dudes afterwards. He didn't used to look like he cared about winning very much. He's a slow learner, to be sure, but he is improving. Compare footage of him this year to last and he's hitting much harder on the tachi-ai, he's driving people back. Even with his soft body you can visibly see he's started hitting the weights more. He needs to refine his tactics more and his footwork is getting better, but it's not anything close to Wakamotoharu or Kotozakura's.>but the last one was a total wet fart.True but, on the whole, he spent the last five basho in the joi and basically went .500, so he clearly belongs. If he can put the last finishing touches on his sumo, with his durability, he could be a force to be reckoned with for years. Naturally, of course, those last steps to go from "really good" to "great" are the very hardest to achieve, but he's right there.
>>217881>Kotojobber getting a jump in skill. No. It's going to be Shishi
>>217904What you said about "caring about winning" is by far the biggest issue for a lot of otherwise incredibly promising men. I see far too many matches where someone gives up and stops resisting before even touching the tawara, and too many big strong boys that seemingly don't want to hurt their opponents too much, and they lose as a result of that. As somewhat of a gentle giant myself, I understand where they're coming from, but at the same time, they're professional fighters and they're doing themselves and their fans a disservice. I want to see them fighting like they genuinely hate each other.
>>217922This is actually kind of the modern era, the "sportsmanship era". In like the 1980s the wrestlers weren't routinely giving each other a hand up on the dohyo, checking that the other guy is OK, and so on. They would just shove the fuck out of each other and go to their side to wait for the gyoji's announcement.
>>217881Wakataka will make an ozeki run starting from March (January won't be good for him), and then explode his knee again.
>>217939WakatakakACK
>>217958never seen the crowd smile like that and it had to be to a serius beef
>>217958>Kisenos-ACKtothis was actually humiliating
>>217958What on earth was he thinking? Kisenosato was an excellent wrestler and fully capable of going toe to toe with the big boss man on a good day, and putting up a reasonable fight even on a bad day.
Is sumodb dead?
>>217958Hakuho was fucking a prick. Thank God he's the GOAT, putting up with 20 years of this bullshit would be painful otherwise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKMw2it8dQY
>>217981He didn't start that way. He was pretty respectful of his opponents during a fair portion of his yokozuna career. Imagine that you are the top guy, and everyone has a chip on their shoulder when they fight you. It gets tiresome when its as lopsided as 45-16
>>218000There was more to it too, I wrote a post on it a while ago, you can probably still find it in the old threadsI'll take a look too
>>218005the thread it was in is deadalas
>>218006Archives are up for xs. its slow enough that finding the sumo threads are easy if you remember where
>>218000I do remember reading that he was considered a good boy compared to Asashoryu.
>nerdy homely sumo fangirlsdibs on right
>>218010nevermind right has a kid, I'm switching my dibs to middle
Koga is already worse than Kikuchi, how is that even possible? He has lost a million times against Kikuchi in the last video and that taking into account that Kikuchi is a baby with no fighting spirit leaves Koga as a useless fighter with no talent.
>>217922>>217927I also think it's more they sometimes don't know when to turn the "sportsmanship mode" off and on. Like it's fine to want to see if the guy is okay once you knock him off the dohyo but if he is still within the in the ring, you should be wanting to fling his ass into the upper part of the stands.>I see far too many matches where someone gives up and stops resisting before even touching the tawaraIn fairness, I think it's also because they want to keep a sense of control if they fall off and don't want to fuck themselves up with a bad tumble.
>>218010I feel like I recognise the girl in the middle - is this just a case of dey arr rook same or is she someone notable?
>>218014She does the MC'ing during the Q&A bit later so she must be employed by or related to the stable somehow
>>218005>>218006NTA, just curious on this topic.
>>217976It'll be back by next basho.
>>218022Those old bastards are so finicky One of these days they should actually make a gyoji commit seppuku in the dohyo
>kotozakura vows to make Yokozuna soon for Kitanofuji Yeah he’s the mc
>>218057Kotozakura will usher in a new year and a new era for sumo. No longer will we have four or five clown bashos a year, no more will we see the san'yaku embarrass themselves, no more will we wait in vain for some real sumo. Count the days, it begins.
>>218057That's a lot of extra pressure to perform in JanuaryTo be honest I have no faith in Zak although I would like it if he succeededI just don't think he willHosh is going to come out gunningand you know Onosato is going to be on point, so will TakerufujiAND the Yokozuna is coming backWhoever wins January is going to be Yokozuna tier
>>218073>Whoever wins January is going to be Yokozuna tierWatch it be another M17 yusho.
>>218073Takerufuji's girl feet won't last though 15 days of high level competition. He is a career mid tier makuuchi wrestler, on par with someone like Shonannoumi who starts getting MKs when they get single digit ranks
>>218073Onosato will a non factor he can’t beat a on game nephew or Zak it took them at their lowest the basho before to beat them
Onosato's right arm out left arm block has been figured out, it's over
Banzuke is out.>https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/
>>218087>Tamashoho M16Good for him
>>218087This looks like a Tsurugisho juryo yusho, I can feel it in my blood.
>>218087I just noticed that sandanme got cut from 100 to 80 ranks.
Aonishiki and Shishi bout confirmed for week 1
how do i into sumo? i want to talk about sumo and watch sumo and understand it
>>218092https://rentry.org/uwbgc88dUse the links here, has everything from streaming (provided it hasn't been terminated by the NHK ninjas) to sumo culture. Tournaments start on the second Sunday of every odd month and last for fifteen days.
>>218092Expressing any sign of interest in sumo already makes you one of the most devoted sumo fans outside of Japan. The rest happens organically - this time next year you'll have forgotten what life was like before you became a sumo fan.
>nabatame promoted on a losing record gay
>>218112Unless you meant to complain about him not being demoted for a losing record, his rank is still the same, Juryo 14 East.
>>218089Tsurugisho is the J3w this time
Gonna be interesting to see if Aoishiki can keep on cranking out the KKs now that he is surrounded by a bunch of former makuuchi guys. No more free wins for him from bottom of the division sissies like like Nabatame this time. Nearly everyone he faces is going to outweigh him by at least 20kg and they're nearly all savvy vets.
>>218126I feel like everytime this is mentioned, he manages to find a solid KK; but I feel like this basho may be the one to actually slow him down.
>>218128I keep on wonder if or to what extent Aminishiki has taught him the extensive bag of techniques he employed. If Aonishiki's ability is limited to 'stay low, be strong and push' then he might be out of luck this time around, if he starts whipping out some of Aminishiki's old tricks then he might be able to overcome the size and experience differential he is facing.
>>218092The next tournament is on January 12. Watch some matches, pick a guy whose style you like, and follow along.Here are the highlights from the last tournament to get you started:https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/sumo/
>Hakuoho back in makuuchiDo people care about him anymore ?
>>218144Hakuowho?
>>218144I care. I think he'll be a fascinating case study of heya influence on rikishi.If Hakuouhou were to turn back into a wrecking ball the moment he and Hakuhou get out of Isegahamabeya, wouldn't that demonstrate that different approaches to training benefit different rikishi, and evince a need for the possibility of changing heya?
>>218144I do he has amazing technique for his size if only his body could hold it together
>>218144I do, here's hoping he stays up there too.
Chris says that Teru is officially going to be competing in January https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MW6Fnn7P-k
>>218135What is gigachad doing there?
>>218168Enjoying some sumo, like all chads do.
>>218169They even made him Shimpan
>>218156>Chris saysTerunofuji has made no such declaration. In other words, he's saying that Terunofuji is in because Terunofuji would have to say something if he were out and he hasn't, meaning he has no news to share.
>>218171They made him Yokozuna.
>>217958This is why Hakuho is the GOAT.>Kisenosato mata's to try to disrupt Hakuho>Hakuho knows the game and pretends to be angry>Kisenosato mata's again to try and make Hakuho even more angry and throw him off his game>Hakuho plays along and acts furious>Kisenosato launches off the tachiai expecting Hakuho to attack him furiously>Hakuho henka's and laughsThe GOAT won this match before the tachiai. The mental aspect of sumo is something that most don't understand or even take into consideration.
>>218088>>Tamashoho M16I like his hustle.
>>218200Takakeisho going full bald would be pretty funny imo
>>218092For you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cN9snHWCRACheck out sumopedia: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/sumo/sumopedia/Watch the basho. It won't take long for you to get in the groove. Sumo is one of the best combat sports in the world.
>>218135Great match!
>>218156Even Chris does not say that.
>>218211Chris says, I believe it, that settles it
Merry Gripsmas, ya filthy animals!
Merry Merry
Merry Sumo.
メリークリスマス、相撲仲間たち
Red alert, Futagoyama-chads, those bastards at Tatsunami have launched a Youtube channel named "Sumo food - Tatsunami Beya". We need to figure out what our response should be before they gain traction.
>>218358whoever wins the most matches in the next basho keeps the name
>>218358I was just watching their videoimpressive how thoroughly they copied Futagoyama's content structurebut that's not a bad thing
>>218371In 2030, new sumo fans will argue over the superiority between Sumo food - Tatsunami Beya or Sumo food - Futagoyama Beya.
>>218374In 2030, only one will have a yokozuna on the channel. No one will be arguing.
>>218375In that case, I look forward to Sumo food - Ajigawa Beya.
Merry Christmas from the biggest koto supporter
>>217331
>>218375Koga will be a force to be reckoned with, I agree. The 2025 growth spurt will be ridiculous.
>Onosho retiredoh maaaaaan... i always enjoy his cross-arm tachiai. i remember i was so bummed about it when he stopped doing it
Kyokutaisei intai
>>218358thanks for the tip
>>218407
I watched that Tatsunami and its way better than Futagoyama. Meisei & Kiriyuko are a much more dynamic pair of leads than Yoga & Nabatame are
>>218413Behead those who insult Futagoyama
>>218406>i remember i was so bummed about it when he stopped doing itHe must have been yelled by his coaches at for that.Even my wife watching asked>Doesn't that kind of give away his timing completely and let the other guy get just enough of a jump to where they wont call a false start?
I think I'd go crazy trying to watch sumo in person because of how long it takes to set up each match
>>218426between matches is when you review stats and shitpost to the /sp/ threadI also do a set of pushups squats or situps between each match, but you couldn't do that watching in live in nippon
>>218427>gaijin doing bodyweight squats in one of the ring seats between matchesTbh I'd love to see this on camera, complete with the baffled commentary, I think you should do it, no such thing as can't
>>218426I'd finger my japanese gf during downtime
>>218427>I also do a set of pushups squats or situps between each match>no shikodo you even /sumo/?
>I'll try a henka>nothing beats a henkACK
I got people in my jiujitsu class to do sumo with meWe make a circle with 4 beltsAt first nobody wants to do it but once they try they get addicted
>>218439>fans would rather watch two fat fucks smash into each other than this high octane technique filled match
>>218443if it can't beat a fat fuck then your octane isn't worth shit
>>218444>beat the fat fuck but with specialized rules favoring the fat fuckShut your fatass up
>>218439What does "Jun Sumo" mean in the filename?
>>218446https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakanami_Jun
>>218447Ah. Thanks.
>>218426zoom zoom
>>218443fat fucks can also have high octane technique filled matches
>>218452They can but most of them are wins from either falling over like retards or until one side gives up and gets tired
This again?
>>218445>specialized rules favoring the fat fuckyeah it's called sumo, you sure you're watching the right sport?
Why don't you just watch Ssireum, other folk-wrestling or even amateur sumo if you care so much about weight impeding on your ability to enjoy sumo? You're complaining about this as if it's going to change at any meaningful moment during your lifetime even though you should know it's not.
>>218456Whatever you fat retard you act like being big and fat is a skill when 99% it’s not and will lead to getting you’re ass beat in anything other than sumo.>>218461I still enjoy sumo but you can’t deny the old days of sumo were way more technical because there weren’t 200 kg land whales in the sport
>IT'S NOT A FUCKING SPORT!!!!
>>218464>erm actually hakuho nagoya 2021 day 15 poster, the nsk's public business plan report doesn't reject the notion that sumo is a competitive sport, but rather acknowledges it as an another aspect of sumo's current purpose
>>217298Ok
>>218463This old lie again? There have always been big, beefy wrestlers alongside smaller, more ripped wrestlers. It's a metagame that constantly shifts, depending on the talent available and the specific rules at the time. Sumo is absolutely dependent on individual performance, so each individual will strive to have the physique and the tactics that will give him the best results. If that means gaining or losing weight, that's what he's going to do. It doesn't matter if he looks ugly or if he wouldn't do well in MMA, the only thing that matters is getting his wins on the dohyo.
>oh boy another manlet fighter >only managed 4 kk in joi in his whole careersoo exciting
>>218470Uh...
>>218471>m8 clown basho winYes, and? I already know
>>218472The clown is you.
Didn't fight either ozeki or the komusubi in the running, only fought two sanyaku that were borderline between kk and mk, and finished the last day with an 8-6 m1. M8 would be like m11-m13 on todays basho with how top heavy it was in 1968Yes, his win was peak clown basho. Even tokushoryu fought a guy in the hunt and an ozeki for the last two says3
>>218475Forget that he went 2-13 at komusubi in the next tournament kwab
>>218476How many cups do you have?
>>21847715 in my cupboard.
The japs really jumped the gun naming this the ono-takeru era have the made a name for the zakura-ryu era?
>>218482This dope gets it together for one basho and you think they're gonna name an era after him?
ex-Kotoshogiku has his beya's youtube channel now as well.youtube.com/@hidenoyama
>>218483He put a mf stamp on this year with the most wins it was only a matter of time and I think two years ago he had the 2nd most after wtk. We are witnessing the rise of the second bull of the dahyo!
>>218485He had one more win than Onosato and one less yusho. There is no world in which a single bout win is better than a yusho.
>>218486
>>218488Very cool match but quite a far cry from Zak's slipiotoshi win over Hosh
>>218492You have no heart.
>>218493
If being fat was that much of an advantage then Dewanojo would be a Yokozuna right now
>>218500Now I have an excuse to post Asanowaka being a cheeky fuck.
>>218500If being fat was that much of an advantage then Gagamaru would've been better than Tochinoshin
Tatsunami has backed down, fearing the wrath of Futagoyama's legion of loyal soldiers. The channel is now called "The Tatsunami Stable - Sumo Foods".
>>218524Futagoyama is yokozuna of sumo channels, shitters need to know their place
>>218525
>>218527S U M O K I N O
>>218500
>>218534Goodbye MCL
>>2185344 PM already?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWqKPWO5T4o
>>218542A classy and very public display of power. On this day, Futagoyama reminded everyone who's in charge.
>>218543Yes, Roga.
daily reminder Chris fans are mentally ill, you can't get much of a dicksucker than this, just why? Chris is absolutely irrelevant to the sumo world, he literally just reads japanese newspapers and turns them into videos for youtube for gaijinAlso>they have had my business card for the past 3 years.what a fucking cuck kek, based Hiro for ignoring this faggot.
>>218561>>they have had my business card for the past 3 years.>where the JSA keeps Chris' business card
>>218561>His username is Chrissumo69I don't know, I'm starting to warm to the guy.
>>218561Chris-chan Sumochu is a precious treasure to the sumo world. We'll miss him when he's gone.
>>218572Maybe he could hurry up and disappear so we can start missing him already.
>>218572Chris should stop with all this fucking sumo shit and get back to what he does best: histories of the 1960s Batman television series
>>218524what do you mean now? it's been called like that since anons posted it >>218358 and >>218408
>>218524>Tatsunami has backed downTatsunami has already vastly exceeded Futagoyama's channel. That scene at the end of Tatsunami's video where Hoshoryu rode in on his horse and said "Hey guys I just got back from raiding the neighboring village, I captured this Bactrian camel" and then sliced off one of the camel's humps and started eating it will never be topped by Futagoyama. Roga's "one time my mom served me wolf instead of the usual hot pockets" story is the best Futagoyama will ever do and Tatsunami already one upped it on their first video.
>>218591Kise still mogs. Who can forget the time they gave us a tour of Higohikari's ear collection?
TWO (2) weeks until the next basho!Don't forget to get your kachiclash picks in
>>218618Can't wait.
>>218618The name Nabatame will soon be synonymous with make koshi.
>>218620he was so bashful about it in the last video, I can't shit on him anymoreI have faith that Nabatame will get a kachi-koshi this time
>>218620Nabatame is just taking it easy. He doesn't feel like being an Ozeki, yet.
rip sumo, 23 BC - 2024 AD
Huh?
>>218702no posts in over 24 hours, sumo has perished
>>218704It's not dead. It's just away on jungyo.
there's no jungyou, it's year-end.
>>217298We will have three Yokozuna by this time come december 2025. It is inevitable.
Who are you guys taking? I feel pretty confident about all of these picks EXCEPT the maegashira 6 to 10 slot. None of those guys really feel like winners to me.
>>218704There is nothing left to talk about its time for kotozakura and hosh to show us they want the horizontal rope
>>218710It's all well and good to predict that the current leaders of the pack will make it to Yokozuna - all they have to do is continue to be better than everyone else and at least one of them is guaranteed to make it. But if we have three Yokozuna next December, who takes their places in san'yaku? The joi is a revolving door for jobbers at the moment, and the low end of the division is all over the place.
>>218727Lower sanyaku is always all over the place. It's rare that someone stays there for extended periods of time without either being good enough to make ozeki or slipping up and going back to maegashira after a single losing score. Guys like Mitakeumi are outliers.
>>218729I can't see any Ozeki on the banzuke aside from the lads that are already there. Maybe 2025 will be a mega clown year, and we'll have three Yokozuna and no Ozeki.
>>218730Wouldn't be the first time.
Takanosho seems to be in a oscillation mode between M6 double digit wins & M1 double digit losses. At M1 he is going to be facing the ozekis week 1, look for him to knock off one or more of them
>>218729The Waka brothers have been looking super solid, as has Daieisho, and Abi is always going to be Abi. I think the lower sanyaku is doing ok.
I notice we don't have any suicide attempts in the sumo thread Good job sumo bros happy new year
>>218744I'M GONNA DO IT. IF TAKARAFUJI DOESN'T GO 8-7 I'M GONNA JUMP!
I'm kinda hoping for chaos lord shodai to make a return.
>>218745NOOO DON'T DO IT THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE OVERHYPED OZEKI THAT YOU CAN WATCH CHOKE AND NEVER REACH YOKOZUNA!!!!
>>218747I NEED HIM TO WIN 7 IN A ROW, THEN LOSE 7 IN A ROW, THEN WIN ON THE LAST DAY OR I'M GONNA JUMP!!!
holy shit bros look at what Isegahama just postedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XOXcndQLzQ
>>218750>4Whoa.
>>218734atamifuji has been in this hell for a year. considering hes a young 22, i hope he develops into something good with all the first week abuse
>>218760He’s fine kotozakura stayed a pretty long time in joi and now he’s on a Yokozuna run. Tomato has a good build it’s hard to not see him as ozeki one day
>>218750Futagoyama-bros, how do we counter this? Four of them...
>>218750I'm glad we're seeing more diverse sumo youtube content instead of everyone trying to reinvent the Sumo Food formula.
>>218750it was great, except that dumb fuck hakuho who had to praise himself...twice... what a dumbass. Oyakata Teru and Haruma just had to laugh at his ass.
>>218784I enjoyed that lol. It was very Hakuho. I'm glad they haven't completely broken his spirit.
>>218777The Futagoyama quadruple makushitter interview
Who takes over Isegahama in July? Hakuho or Terunofuji or someone else?
>>218792why on earth would they give THE biggest sumo stable to the guy who's currently being disciplined for running his stable poorly?
>>218792It'll be Teru for sureHakuho is still Miyagino
>>218792Stock swap with Tateyama to stay on for 5 more years, Teru retires without permanent stock.
>>218795They wouldn't do Teru dirty like that would they
>>218799Who?
>>218798Please understand, the wisdom of Asahifuji is needed to ensure Hakuho stops being a shitpump of a stablemaster.(still hungover, shut up)
>>218802Asahifuji knows that if he hands over the stable to Hakuho then Hakuho will ruin the stable and Asahifuji's reputation will grow just as Hakuho's sinks. The more hatred and disappoint people express about Hakuho, the more people will harken back to the days when Isegahama was under Asahifuji's stellar management
>>218792Hakuho and Terunofuji fight it out on the dohyo to decide who gets it. Terunofuji wins, because Hakuho has been too busy advertising the fight and distributing merchandise to train properly, but Terunofuji's knees explode as he bodily lifts Hakuho out of the ring. The newly renamed Kurumaisufuji-beya goes on to achieve great things in the 20s and 30s.
>>218723Enjoy your Takanosho 4 wins
>>218833I still might change itI switched Meisei for Ichiyamamoto
Follow your dreams
>>218870If you don't have what you want, better get manifesting...
>>218870Hakuho shitposts in /LoA/
>no new Chris videos in nearly a weekover?
>>218961they're probably on patreon or somethinggod I hate that site
important new Jap vocabulary has dropped: futehodoThe faggots at the globohomo Japan Times are massively butthurt about ithttps://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2024/12/31/japan/japans-word-of-the-year/Imagine their butthurt when all of the Yokozunas are Japanese at the end of 2025
>>218961god willing, Chris is returning to batman content
Almost sumo timehttps://files.catbox.moe/1nbnek.mp4
Kotozakura WILL become Yokozuna.Hoshoryu WILL shit the bed and withdraw out of embarrassment.And you will be happy.
>>218975>Gearoid ReidyCould they not have at least found an actual Jap to complain about it? This guy's command of English is juvenile enough, and I can only imagine his Japanese is worse.
Natto's telegram got shoah'd too. Is it ogre?
>>218834why are you picking people that are overranked clearly on course for 10+ losses
>>219001no...
>>218999Please don't respond to off-topic posts.
>>219008If he's not back in time, which stream would you lads recommend that will give me the least cancer?
>>219010karla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33D9vYSxIQU>young 'uns just running at each otherkino
>>219013It's called tobitsuki, "launching in" or "flying in". I've only seen footage of it once before. They practiced it in maezumo in the interest of saving time in identifying who was and wasn't good at sumo, if I recall correctly. It originally stopped around the end of WWII, but was temporarily revived from 1956-1973.I'd never been clear on what the preservation status of old sumo recordings was, but this footage being from the standard broadcast angle implies that the NSK still has video for every match in every division as far back as the 60s, which I hope is correct. I would love to see 1950s jonokuchi matches.
>>219019Gonna spitball that it was brought back due to rising numbers of entrants, so maezumo would take longer without tobitsuki, and that it was dropped again as economic growth put more emphasis on secondary education, resulting in the current trend of maezumo being highest in March and negating the need for tobitsuki in the rest of the year.
New Chris sumo kino came out kotozakura and his father visited kotozakura I’s grave to promise him they will become Yokozuna! He’s the mc
>>219022WHERE IS THE BATMAN CONTENT
>>219022Chris was a Merton College, Oxford student when Naruhito was there, they're old school chums.
>>219010Random Youtube restreams.
Lets say Onosato continues his pattern of alternating Tokyo yushos with 9-6s at the regional bashoes, how many years would he have to keep up that pattern of winning 3 a year but never two consecutive before he would get promoted to yokozuna?
>>219027They wouldn't do it for someone like Kaio, they certainly wouldn't do it for Onosato unless we still remain without an active yokozuna that isn't Terunofuji,
>>219029>unless we still remain without an active yokozuna that isn't TerunofujiTeru's been part-time for 3 years now. Can we stop pretending like the JSA will overpromote someone like it's a certainty when it hasn't happened in all this time?
>>219027If he never does better than 14-1 -> 9-6 -> 14-1 -> 9-6, they would probably never promote him. He would 'only' be the best ozeki of all time.
>>219027It took Takanohana 7 yushos before he finally got yokozuna, because they absolutely waited until he got 2 in a row. There was a period of a year where he alternated yushos and 11-4s.
Heya youtubes power ranking1. Isegahama, best content hands down2. Kise, stalwart channel with some of the best variety of content 3. Tatsunami, quality deluxe 4. Tamanoi, very entertaining selection of athletic competition, but subs are trash5. Minato, poor subs, but compensated for somewhat with the excellent presentation, overseas voyages and enthusiasm of the participants 6. Shikoroyama, would be ranked higher if the posts weren't so infrequent, but excellent quality when they do deliver 7. Hidenoyama, new and subs are poor, but otherwise shows promise8. Futagoyama, can't believe youtube allows these slobs to be put on public display, yuck
The stars have aligned for the upcoming basho and it looks like we're in for a potentially legendary show, there are a number of enthralling story lines at the top of the banzuke, not only the two ozekis chasing the horizontal rope, but a yokozuna looking to shut them down and prove he still controls the top of the mountain and another ozeki who is looking to get a run of his own started. What make it even more engaging is that opposing them in the early matches is a lineup of komusubis and upper joi that is absolutely stacked with guys who have a strong shot at knocking off anyone in upper sanyaku, Tobizaru is really the only weak link above M3. Gonoyama is kinda predictable, but he makes up for it by being such a wrecking ball. The rest of them; Abi, Wakatakakage, Takanosho, Kirishima (if he is in the form he showed in September), Atamifuji & Oho - are all bound to add to the excitement by showing us upset victories probably every night of the first week. If Kirishitma's neck/spine isn't in shape for full power sumo yet then he will get obliterated, but even without him the week 1 competition for upper sanyaku is stronger that usual. Shodai might beat some high rankers too, he is still capable of it once in a while.
>>219045REAL power ranking:SSS: FutaGODyamaF: Damn dirty imposters
>1 week left for sumowhat? I thought was today... fucking dammit. Weren't bashos supposed to take place on the first sunday?
>>219055No.
>>219055Always the second Sunday of the month.
>sumodb 503ing againand so I face the final curtain
Kotozakura training with a barbell, 1973.
>>219063It's been 503ing and 404ing a lot in December.
>>219088I bet the JSA is doing this
>>219080Wow, I thought Tamawashi was the oldest man in the top division!
>>219100Kirishima's been around since the '50s
>>219113
My updated picksalso I made a heya for us if anyone wants to join it (Excess Sumo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ4hkcFJXR4>9 minute video of a Dewanoumi practice including Sadanoyama sparringDon't mind if I do. Thanks NSK.
>>219030Nobody has put together results that would even begin a discussion for promotion in the past 3 years, so your point is moot. If they had, I'm certain that Terunofuji would have retired there and then.However, for argument's sake let's say that Terunofuji pulls out early in Hatsu, neither Hōshōryū nor Kotonowaka put up promotion-worthy numbers, and Ōnosato wins convincingly. That situation might just be palatable enough for the JSA to allow Terunofuji to retire, with the drawing card for 2025 being who will gain promotion out of the three ōzeki (where at least one inevitably succeeds).The brass just aren't going to allow for a lengthy period without a yokozuna on the banzuke, without a credible replacement waiting in the wings - of whom we currently have three. Unless Terunofuji somehow pulls some magic bullshit out of his arse and regains his 2020-2021 form, this is the best time for him to bow out and let the next generation take over. He's got his 10 yūshō after all.
>>219130Unless I misunderstood, he said in >>218750 that he wants 4 more.
>>219130Protip: Teru isn't on the verge of considering retirement. He isn't all that old, as long as he can continue to collect 1 or 2 cups a year he will stick around.
>>219134Teru is already 7th all time for most absences by a yokozuna, and is one more skipped basho away from tying Akebono for 6th. Everyone is being lenient with him now because he's the only yokozuna and has kept his nose clean outside the ring, but the moment it looks like there's at least one new yokozuna that's here to stay for a while, pressure will mount for Teru to preserve the dignity of the rank.
I hope to develop the same flexibility as a sumo
>>219136*rikishi
>>219137gazuntite
>>219138*Gesundheit
>>219139https://youtu.be/gVXWNbPjMYc?si=vO0r1dKcFX9RXdJ3
>>219045Futagoyama's ratings have been falling so they fired their cameraman in hired a 'retired' (aka post-wall) JAV actress to take over in hopes of adding some sex appeal on the cheap to recover their lost ratings and ad revenue. Future Futagoyama plotlines: female idol group moves in next door, their plumbing breaks and they come to Futagoyama to ask if they can use Futagoyama's bath, then Kikuchi rapes them all (he is still a minor so he knows he can't be charged with any crimes)
>>219130>The brass just aren't going to allow for a lengthy period without a yokozuna on the banzukeProve it.
>>219146>rapesIt's hard for a guy to wrap his head around but sumo wrestlers don't need to rape anybody, the fatmaxxing gets bitches wet for some reason.
>>219146i personally don't like the close-up takes he does, he should chill with it, no need to get up in the nose of everyone.
What Futagoyama needs is both Mita and Nabatame having a solid hold in sekitori ranks and taking the camera along with them outside the heya to show the sekitori benefits
>>219134>He isn't all that old33 is not ancient, but it's about the average age yokozuna retire, and many of those weren't so broken down that they could only appear 1-2 times a year
>>219154Mita would just take the camera to the gym and film himself working out for an hour. Boy's a machine.
>>219151Dude watched too many Sergio Lenone movies
>>219135Arguably 2 yuuuuuuusho!s a year (& 4 incompletes or total absences) preserves the dignity of the rank better than 6 10-5s would
>>219135>Teru is already 7th all time for most absences by a yokozunaThat doesn't look as galling when you consider that ~35 of the 73 yokozuna never competed in more than 20 bouts a year.
>>219168And at least one of those 73 yokozuna wasn't even real!
>>219169>one of those 73 yokozuna wasn't even realI bet it was Kashiwado. You never really hear anything about him
>>219171>I bet it was Kashiwado
>>219169It's obviously "Hakuho". Do these people really expect us to believe a random Mongolian turned up one day, shattered all the records, and then just left? He'd at least be running a stable if he had really existed, wouldn't he?
>>219220the one at 0:16 isnt so much a throw as a spike
>>219234Wasn't official anyway.
Sumo webm maker can you post some kotozakura I webms pls <3
>>219236
>>219236>>219238Getting feisty with Taiho.
>>219239
You can really see the resemblance here.
Last one.
Nokneesnofuji will be in January basho
Even Natto’s Telegram channel got nuked. Dammit.
>>219136*sumotori
>>219271You learned that from watching this excellent video by Chris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhKsulR4MJQWhy did you fail to credit your source? Chris is epic, everyone loves him
>>219281>Onsato is Terus handpicked heir So cool. I kind of thought it'd be someone from his own stable (Takeru? ATF?) but I agree 'Sato is yokozuna material.
Hoshoryu wins January. Count it.
Onosato YushoTeru JYHosh and Zak both blow it
>>219305I don't see Teru making it to senshuraku.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKOkosjBybA
>>219307he'll make it, Teru has the spirit of the samurai, he'll make it even if he ends up having to get his knees amputated
>>219303I believe.
I hope ktz ain’t having yusho hangover
>>219281Chris, I need more of your insight into Adam West. please
>>219307Teru on 6 months rest is money in the bank for at least 12 wins
>>219326Loses on day 1, two other losses in week 1, finishes 8-7
>>219326This bitch should now be on a Yokozuna run that’s that nepotism working for him
>>219377Make your next drink water.
>>219378>>219377I'll bring him some Chikara Mizu^tm
Soon
>>219402takerufuji isn't in that pic, but is still outside the joi so he stands a chance of having a strong first week and making a run at the cup
>>219410>run
neph looks good, did 9 matches with zakura, won 8.https://x.com/OneLoveLulit/status/1876224698981491055/video/2
>>219375Maximum of 12 wins. He's not getting any younger, and every time he completes a basho he does more damage to himself. I don't think he's going to be in good enough condition to beat any of the Ozeki in the final few days.
>>219426He can win all the practice matches he wants but needs to win the actual matches that matter seems like to me kz2 is downloading data.
damn bros this basho is going to be WILDcan you feel the hype
>>219443I’m mostly worried that I’m not going to watch any of it due to NHK fuckery.
>>219445yes it's ridiculous for them to be so tight fisted when sharing with us when half of Japan is wearing Dodgers gear
Was there any follow up to those weird pictures of Jason that anon found on shitter?https://nitter.poast.org/thatwineguy68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Qx3wvqTOQ
Can you pay those cheap japs to watch the basho in a similar format to what natto offered? I would pay upwards of 150 dollars a year to have consistant recordings available for makushita and up.
>>219276Dumb nigger should know when to quit. NSK has his number and won't let his dick go.
>>219480never give up, never surrender
>>219463no because hiro is to lazy to get the clips all put together until like 2-3 days after the happen. the fansubbers are kinda cringe tryhards for getting that stuff out like 10 minutes after the last bout ends.
>>219519>cringe tryhardsThis is the otaku spirit. It doesn't matter how niche or embarrassing your hobby is, you pursue it passionately and without shame. Without the services of otakus, the world would be a smaller and more boring place. It is one of the saddest aspects of modern life that being genuinely, unironically earnest is now considered something to be mocked.
>>219538Based Otaku appreciator
Big news! Onosato is going to tie his oichonmage topknot for the first time!source: wherever Chris read it
>>219519I would bet there is enough downtime in between matches to do nattos edits.
I'm starting to believe that Kotozakura will completely shit the bed this basho and just withdraw and cry himself to sleep.
>>219360>>219565Not having yusho hangover is what separates the yokozuna from the fraudkozuna. Teru doesn't get enough credit considering both his contemporary ozekis and the new wave have failed miserably at getting it.
Its retarded how everyone is suddenly expecting Zak and Horseshitryu to compete for the cup after having had all of one good showing in a row. They were both 8-7 in September, why has that been forgotten?
>>219579I didn't forget it
>>219579Just because I want it to happen so Teru can finally retire his knees doesn't mean I think it's a lock to happen.
>Roga will be kyujo for the start of the Hatsu basho Rogabros...
>>219579Well it's about time they step it up a notch.
>>219579They had pretty decent years especially kotozakura with two jys the most ones in a year and only one single digit showing. I think you’re just a seething bitch what you should really be seething about is nephew being on a run despite having no title.
>>219579Zak just had the classic pre-yuusho hangover
>>219579I don't see many here thinking Kotozakura will compete for it. Hoshoryu on the other hand, has been absolutely dominant in all stables practice.
>>219593It's all part of Zak's master plan as Sun Tzu said "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak"
>>219593> dominant in practiceIt’s practice not like it’s actual go time sumo ktz should still be be favorite he’s the reigning champion
>>219587futagoyama is such a sissy stable
>>219595>In front of the YDC>Not realFuck off, freshie.
>>219587as long as Nabatame finally manages a kk
>>219598Like any of that shit will help him get the rope what only matters is what happens during fight time he didn’t show up when it mattered he got sent to the clay like a bitch against big zak
>>219602>I got my first KK in juryo on the third tryits already over for nabatame, he should look into opening a chanko restaurant or something, even if he manages an 8-7 and moves up to the lofty rank of J12 he is never going to make it
>>219614Nabatame is going to go 15-0
>>219443>damn bros this basho is going to be WILD>can you feel the hypeThis should be the most exciting basho in years and I'm probably not going to get to see any of it because I can't spend two weeks staying up until 3 in the morning watching sumo.>NHK sometimes gives you replays the next dayExcept on fucking weekends and like 24 hours later. Basically just, "they're up when they're up." If I want to avoid spoilers, I can't even read the basho threads on /sp/.How do those cheap fucks not realize the whole reason the tour in London will work at all is because of people stealing their content?
>>219605> any of that shit will help him get the ropeit 100% will help him get the rope if he wins this basho and they are really considering a promotion.. remember that he isn't coming off of a win. he needs anything extra like that to convince them 13-2jy was a yusho equivalent and he is a cut above the others. it could also be the difference between kotozakura not getting a promotion if he goes 13-2 losing only to onosato and hoshoryu.
>>219594He is gathering DATA trust father’s plan
>>219623>I can't spend two weeks staying up until 3 in the morning watching sumoI bet you don't even HAVE a bicycle.
>>219595>ktz should still be be favorite he’s the reigning championThat just means he's even more likely to lose since nobody not named Terunofuji has been able to pull off consecutive yusho.
>>219623The NHK World highlights air at 11:30 AM Eastern the same morning as the matches so you only have to avoid spoilers for a few hours after you wake up and then you can backread on the /sp/ thread. The YouTube uploads only come after they rerun the highlights 4 times so if you wait for those you'll always be at least a full day behind and will have to live in a bubble for 2 weeks to avoid spoilers.
>>219632nta, but i wouldn't mind being a day behind if i had the stats natto puts up. its nice to have all that shit before the matches because it helps keep it fresh in the mind for the 15 days
>>219630KTZ2 is super consistent and he’s fighting for much more than himself we might see an all time performance from him this tournament he really showed that inner dawg his last outing
wait a minuteI just realized that, if you intentionally read Kotozakura's kanji in a specific way, it can be written "Kino"琴- kin 桜 - ou, but the standardization sumodb uses would reduce it to just 'o'琴桜 - kino
>>219587Hokutofuji and Bushozan are kyujo for the start of the basho as well.
>>219632>>219635Kintamayama was putting his stuff on YouTube last basho, if I remember correctly, and would just take it down within a couple days to avoid getting copyright struck.
Funny how I can look up the most popular shit in the world owned by the biggest most legally autistic corporations possible all for free no problem, but nobody's capable of keeping fucking sumo highlights up for more than a few weeks at a time.
>>217881I think Atamifuji and Oho are the prime candidates for that, but they need a change on their mindset, they clearly don't fight with everything they have
>>219656I wish the big man would just start uploading torrents on some public tracker. And maybe keep a discord or something for the community aspect only.
https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Results.aspx?b=202501&d=1Day 1 has a lot of kino bouts. Hoshoryu vs Kirishima and Terunofuji vs Wakatakakage are bangers.
>>219656There's probably a single unhinged nationalist Japanese otaku that's responsible for 95% of thisThat's how it usually goes
>>219637Well done retard
>>219682thank you very much
>>219656lol butthurt gaijin faggot u mad
>>219686Tell it to a Mongolian, little man
>>219637/our/ fruaking guy!
>>219637looks more like daieisho than zakfirst day matchups are out:https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/Terunofuji - WakatakakageKotozakura - TakanoshoKirishima - HoshoryuOnosato - TobizaruAbi being left out of the mix of upper sanyaku matches on the first day seems a little strange. Onosato gets the easy win instead.
Day 2 matches also out
>>219697>Teru vs Takanosho day 2lmao
I misread the schedule, Kirishima is fighting Onosato day 2 not Zak
>>219656Stop being a bitch and just go to the stream replays and fastforward through them to the matches you want.
>>219696>Abi being left out of the mix of upper sanyaku matches on the first day seems a little strange.No it doesn't. That's where K1e fights in this situation.
Can someone give me a cryptic clue on how to find natto now? Even his little website is gone.
>>219724y tho
>>219722He's been incommunicado since his Telegram got wiped.
Anyone watching the ring purifying?
>>219730Thank you for the reminder.
>>219730Yeah, someone is having a coughing fit right next to the fucking microphone.
>>219730https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJiev-WxTUo
>one of the best and arguably the best yokozuna ever>uses a bike like thisAnd some fools still doubt the bike theory
>>219739I'm not a bicycle autist, is that a good bicycle?
>>219740Yes. About as good as you get from a giant carbon fiber hard tail. like 4/5k depending on group set
>>219739>>219744Why do they design the gears so small now? I get the feeling that the maximum speed you can reach will be much lower.
>>219748>Why do they design the gears so small now? I get the feeling that the maximum speed you can reach will be much lower.It's actually about the same. Notice it's only a single chainring in the front, as opposed to the two from years past. The cassettes in the back have a much wider range, though, so there's no need to have a front derailleur (which can be finicky and prone to drop the chain) but you can still have a wide range of gears.Normal bikes these days come with a 30 or 32t chainring and a massive 10-45 12-speed cassette.Ten or fifteen years ago, you'd have something like a 36/24 two-ring chainset and an 11-34 9-speed cassette.Turning your pedals at 60rpm in your highest gear (a gear you rarely use anyway) with the 32-10 you're going 16.1mph, with 36-11 you're going 16.5mph. Not that much of a difference.
Can you guys not talk about fucking cycling This is a sumo thread
>he doesn't know
>>219754Are you new? It's a well-known topic in /sumo/. The hypothesis is that a rikishi's capability and potential is directly reflected by his choice of bike. Rikishi aren't allowed to drive, so nearly all of them own bikes and use them often - a sloppy man who isn't interested in being the best he can be will choose a bad bike, a man who understands quality and strives for perfection will choose a good bike. It sounds silly on the face of it, but the more you look into it the more it makes sense.
>>219762They do that because they have to. Cycling is for fucking faggots and cyclists are insufferable cocksuckers.
>>219765tsmt, its no coincidence that asaSHITryu had a fancy bike and ended up being kicked out of sumo.
>>219765Of course they do it because they have to - but because they do it, and their choices can be compared against each other, it functions as a useful metric. If they didn't ride bikes we'd be comparing their cars.
Less than 12 hours to get those kachi clash picks inWe're finally here, it's felt so far away when the last basho ended
>>219765t. Got cucked by a mountain bikerNot our fault your gf is the town bicycle, bro.
>>219773That would imply cyclists have sex with women which we all know is impossible as they are all gay
>>219771>we'd be comparing their carsHow do you explain this? Career high M5w.
>>219774>That would imply cyclists have sex with womenOr, you are gay, and a mountain biker had sex with your boyfriend
Behold Onosato's oichonmage
>>219765>you
>>219724was this the cryptic clue...? it's too cryptic...
One last bump
IT HAS BEGUN!
Jonokuchi matches have started. >>219788We are far past bump limit.
>Ikazuchihayate7 mora. Nice.
>>219797>>219797>Jonokuchi matches have started.They sure have, and with a bang!
>>146616397>>146616397>>146616397
>>219801>>>/sp/146616397?
>>219801What the fuck, why didn't the crossboarding work?>>146616397>>>/sp/146616397
>mybike autism theory is now commonly accepted>>219765riding a bike doesn't make you a walkable city cyclist fag retard>>219781You can clearly see there's another not Ishiura guy in the drivers seat. Ishiura was alao pretty close to Hakuho, so there's plenty of cross over with people they know. Its also very popular to rent cars like. Less own them out right. It could even be Ishiura being picked up as an advertising campaign for a company that rents the cars. Basically, that picture doesn't tell us anything
>>219814>It could even be Ishiura being picked up as an advertising campaign for a company that rents the cars>he doesn't know
TERUNOFUJI INTAIhttps://x.com/mainichiphoto/status/1879884593047973976
>>220198sleep well big knees
Teru tribute from Isegahama youtube channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmnDlQ2Dazg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I07pcW0aXo
>>220418not watching your clickbait
Sumo coming to Paris.https://x.com/sumokyokai/status/1880844436093222965
>>217298I have an interest in sumo but i know basically nothing about it. How accurate is Baki's depiction of sumo and ancient sumo? Taking into account the degree of embellishment that comes with all entertainment. Also, fuck me. My lower half is as hairy as these two.
>>220782I don't know what this is, but>shorts>kickingI'm going to guess not very accurate.
>>220783This is the alleged ancient form of sumo. It's pointed out how peculiar the kicking was. The manga makes the distinction between that and the grand sumo i.e modern sumo.
>>220785So, pre-Tokugawa. AFAIK, pretty much everything known about that period of sumo is from legends.
>>220782Baki's sumo arc is nothing like sumo and not what you should expect. If you're interested in sumo just watch an actual tournament.
>>220782Baki in that case is describing the actual earliest described sumo fight between taima no kehaya and nomi no sukuneNote that fight took place circa 30 bc and the earliest written reference to it is a history book from like a thousand years laterAlso note that the word "sumo" can also translate as something like contest so basically any official fight back then was sumo regardless of the ruleset
>KOTOKWABKURA>KOTOSHITKURA>KOTOJOBBERKURA>KOTOZ-ACKKKK!
>>220984you just cannot take this guy seriously with that dumb expression he does before a bout.. Onosato hurry up.
I fear that JSA will just set up a short term yokozuna if Hoshoryu can't keep this up
Oh damn I didn't even know this board existed.>>221018The fuck does that mean? Promote Onosato on a 6 month contract?
>>221019They'll reactivate Hakuho for a year
>>221024>Hakuho...we have one last job for you...
>>221028>Objective: Survive as Yokozuna until reinforcements arrive
>>221024Hakuho leaves NSK, self identifies as 15 year old japanese boy and joins Tatsunami stable so he can beat the shit out of Hoshoryu in the practice ring
My wife and I are disappointed to hear of the promotion. Regardless of the perceived “need” for someone in that position, and regardless of the man’s accomplishments, we feel that he lacks the character for it. If he does well and honors the promotion, then I wish him well. But we see too much of his uncle in him—his bad temper and a proclivity for violence beyond what is necessary for the sport of Sumo—and fear that things could end badly.
>>221032Is this an engagement post? Outside the ring Hoshoryu isn't violent in the least, he's carefree and jokes about all the time. It's only when some fat fuck has the gall to stand across the dohyo from him that Asashoryu comes out in him.
>>221032the only resemblance is the looks. i havent seen any bad temper in Hosh. He may smug a bow here and there when he loses, but that's about it.
>>221035He doesn't not bow, he just does it too quickly when the gyoji just happens to not be facing that way. And honestly it's not like the JSA cares so long as it brings numbers in (see: Asashoryu).
Can’t the Jsa turn down recommendations ydc just does the recommendation and not the actual promotion
>>221037yeah
>>221036>see: the guy that was constantly embroiled in controversy and got forced outThey do care and even that little burst of emotion after his win is going to count against Hosh.
>>221037They can, yes. It's not official until the meeting. The YDC is just advisory, but they scheduled the approval meeting, and will likely approve it.
But isn't it the JSA who is calling for the YDC to make a recommendation? Why ask if you're just going to ignore what they say?
Announcing that the YDC are convening to discuss Hoshoryu publicly in the middle of the arena with a huge crowd of spectators watching plus live on television and then not promoting him would be so fucking dumb lmao
Give him the rope if he turns into a kimboshi farm force him to retire
>>220995>CAN YOU SMELL>WHAT THE ZAK>IS COOKING
>>221044>THE PEOPLE'S -ACKBOW!!!
There's a girl in the sumo food bowling episode who's super cute and I want to marry her :3cShe's probably about 40 knowing Japan.
>>221046That's the okamisan, she is married and has a highschool age sun with Futagoyama oyakata
>Hoshoryu getting promoted to yokozuna>Meanwhile Asanoyama in shambles and down in sandanme next bashoStay away from hookers
Is Sponichi a reliable source? They're outright saying the YDC said yes.
Some wrestler who is rising through the ranks pretty fast in the lower divisions
>>221047I'd love to see her oil wrestle with Emmi from Shishi's stable.
>>221049I think a lot of people are jumping the gun here and construing the shimpan recommendation as the promotion itselfIt's not even the next day in Japan yet, it's the night after
>>221050Daiki? Any relation to Onosato?
>>221049The YDC did recommend it, but they are just an advisory body they have to approve it officially.
>>221052Actually it's almost 5am. Up with the rising son.
>>221053Family name first in Japanese.
>>221053That's his first name, dummy.
>>221054Yes, but it was the JSA who asked the YDC to recommend it.
>>221057>>221056Huh?
>>221059Onosato is his shikonaNakamura Daiki is Onosatos real name
>>221059https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daiki
>>221059Lmao I realised right as I clicked post how dumb I was. Oh well.
>>221062It's okay, Britbong. We forgive you.
>>221050yeah i noticed him as well, dude was facerolling all but 1.
>>221058They still have the meeting to finalize it.
>>221060>Nakamura Daiki>doesn't join Nakamura-beyaYou had one job...
>>221068He didn't believe in the SCIENCE Nakamura stable was going to bring and decided to stay in bumfuck nowhere Ibaraki (inside a huge castle)
So my fantasy team was completely fucking hosed this time around.>Picked Oho hoping for a breakout but changed to Atamifuji in the end>Thought Churanoumi was a free pick because he looked so good last bashoThanks a lot fatsos.
>>221066Asahi Shimbun is also saying it.
>>221073Yes, they are.>The Japan Sumo Association is expected to decide Hoshoryu’s promotion to the 74th yokozuna at an extraordinary meeting of the board of directors on Jan. 29.It's finalized on the 29th. So it's not finalized yet as I said.
>>221074Of course, but the only thing that could stop it is if the YDC says no, which there's no chance they will.
>>221075The YDC already said yes, and I'm not arguing that he won't get promoted. I'm just saying it's not official... yet.
>>221076No you have it backwards, the YDC meets today. The JSA asked the YDC for the meeting. The JSA is already on board.
>>221070Feisty!
>>221071Lol I made those same picks
If he’s that good he can wait to get two yusho it’ll happen eventually! - JSA about takanohana
>>221081Yeah, but we don't have an Akebono this time.
>>221081People debate Kaio v Takakeisho but in reality Takanohana was the greatest ozeki of all time.
>>221077I see that in another article, I thought the YDC had already met based on how positive the headlines were. But it still says final JSA approval is on the 29th, so after that meeting they have to rubber stamp it (since they already initiated this process I'm sure they'll do so).
>>221084Right. It wouldn't make sense to not approve something they already asked for. If it's not a done deal then it's a big embarrassment, quite frankly.
>Skip the yusho hangover by getting a stroke jun-yusho instead>Get told you need 14 wins next time>Get 12 then win a three way playoff to bring your total basho wins to 14>All of this happened by the grace of OhoI have no idea if I'm impressed at what Hoshoryu has achieved, or disgusted by it.
>>221086>strokeStrong. Looks like the stroke is all mine.
>>221086>no idea if I'm impressedHe needs to follow it up with another win, that's certain. Hope he can handle the pressure.
Interesting tidbit: it was Takadagawa, the former Akinoshima, who was a stablemate of Takanohana who pushed hardest for the emergency promotion meeting.
>>221088At least one this year for sure.
>>221089Takanohana opposes the promotion of anyone who hasn't won 6+ yushos at ozeki.
>>221088Gonna be Hosh and Ono going at it this year I hope, with Takeru sometimes peeking his head in and Daieisho going 8-7 as he rightly should. None of this 11-4 nonsense.
>>221083Raiden is, you mean. The rest are fighting over 2nd place.
>>221086I don't like it for the simple fact that it relied on Oho's performance and not solely on Hoshoryu's.
>>221092Kirishima and Oho set to throw a wrench in those plans, I think.
>>221094That's why I'm still adamant he has to win next time or people will doubt him.
>>221095Kirishima maybe, but Oho still has a lot to prove.
>>221094Yeah I'm completely with you there. I imagine the JSA was thinking along those lines too until Hosh dumpstered the playoff.
>>221099Yup.
>>221099Dumpstered rank and filers like he should’ve done against the three mk megashitters he lost to
>>221101And where were the sanyaku while this was going on? 5/8 sanyaku got losing records this basho. Oho has been a sanyaku in the making for a while, though Kinbozo can fuck off back to juryo. Or better yet Kazakhstan. Absolutely distraught at Onosato losing to him.
>>221102Zak is hurt and onosato put on a decent basho sekiwake and komusubi are just glorified rank and filers still doesn’t change the fact hoshitryu lost to rank and filers that went 6-9 5-10 and 7-8
>>221104>sekiwake and komusubi are just glorified rank and filersOpinion discarded.
>>221104>zak is hurtwell maybe he should have stopped early instead of feeding free wins to everyone, that would have given him more time to heal with less strain. Now the end result is the same, kadoban
>>221104I found it interesting to hear that Hoshoryu said he gets most fired up against other ozeki. It's almost as if he doesn't take maegashira seriously and it causes dumb shit like being thrown by Atamifuji who I didn't even know COULD throw. All he has to do is take everything ultra seriously which desu a zuna promotion will probably do for him. Super interested to see how he performs in March now, the confidence boost for him will be extreme. Guy's gonna be like Mike Tyson who didn't even compute the possibility that he could lose a fight in his prime.>>221105Name the good komusubi from 2024. I'll start:>Onosato>Abi>DaieishoEveryone else has been a complete fucking jobber. Everyone had such high hopes for the Waka brothers this basho.
>>221107Heal on the dahyo
>>221108Shodai and Hiradoumi, both beat the Yokozuna to be, hence, both are good.
>>219739>gianthehe
>>221094Any yusho relies on everyone else losing.
>>221108>Daieisho Speaking of someone who’s just been steadily grinding out consistently good results for two years now. Since Jan’23 he’s had six double digit basho and only one MK, in the sanyaku nearly the whole time.
>>22111214-1 implies you made them lose. Years from now people going over basho scores may not realise just how close Hosh was to not receiving this rope.>>221110Hira is my fuckin dog dude.>>221113Daieisho is the ultimate in S1e technology.
>>221113Guy's a goddamned bull. I just wish he could have learned to stay upright earlier in his career.
>>221114Hoshoryu made Oho and Kinbozan lose, twice in the same tournament.
Just realized Hoshoryu never fought Abi this time.
>>221115I envision Daieisho as a wild boar when he fights. He's probably the only guy who can beat Hiradoumi in raw tenacity. Go rewatch his fight against Hosh from November, you'll get what I mean. Sure some guys like the Waka bros hit the towara and get comebacks, but Daieisho just brute forces through it all like a complete animal.>>221117Onosato fucking WISHES dude.
>>221118Bull.
>>221110>beating a Yokozuna Something hoshoryu has never done btw
>>221121He will once Onosato gets promoted.
>>221120But enough about your wife's plans for this evening.
>>221122lol
>>221123I'm so lonely I wish this was true just so I could have a wife....
>>221121Hoshoryu also hadn't fought a yokozuna for something like two and a half years before his promotion. Not really his fault no one was there once he became stronger DESU.>>221125Imagine spending a steamy evening with Daieisho. I don't know if anyone's pelvis could survive. I imagine if he's married that his wife looks as ugly as him.
>>221086>>221099Anons here are putting too much stock in the playoff wins. Fucking Abi won a 3-man playoff and his was arguably more impressive.
>>221126Eight meetings with Terunofuji and never won once
>>221127>man playoff and his was arguably more impressive.it wasn't. tacoyasu in absolutely kino choking fashion, was injured in the last match and couldn't fight. it was basically just abi vs takakeisho
>>221127We're putting just as much stock in them as the JSA is. And it arguably fucking wasn't.>>221129Nine (where did you even get eight?) but only six when Terunofuji was a yokozuna.
>>221129They fought once in the last two and a half years you actual copter. You think Hosh can't have improved in that time?
>>221129That's less of an indictment of Hoshoryu and more proof of how much a big dick yokozuna Terunofuji was before his injuries. Onosato, Kotozakura, Kirishima, and Hoshoryu COMBINED are 3-30 against Terunofuji. And those 3 wins came when Terunofuji was on his last legs.
>>221133Terunofuji wasn't yokozuna before his injuries, which only makes his dick bigger honestly. The guy could've been legendary if he only had knees.
>>221132No he had hoshoryu’s number but koto had a win why couldn’t hosh muster ONE
>>221135>why couldn’t hosh muster ONEBecause Hosh had to pull out of that basho near the end due to Zak's fat ass making him do the splits.
>>221135Hosh still struggles against big guys, and Teru was the biggest
>>221135He got hurt that tournament.
>>221138Did you miss the part where Hosh keeps casually throwing Onosato?
>>221138This >>221140 and he beat Kinbozan twice this tournament. What other big guys are there that you want him to beat?
If hosh gets promoted it’s only because they need to sell tickets abroad
>>221142I'm okay with that.
>>221143I’m not this is a tradition not a spectacle
>>221144>*holds event inside a large arena and broadcasts it on national TV*WHY DO PEOPLE THINK SUMO IS A SPECTACLE???
>>221144The spectacle is the tradition.
>>221135Terunofuji is simply a nightmare match-up for Hosh. Not only is he way bigger and stronger, but he's also a skilled belt wrestler who's too savvy to run himself into a Hosh throw. Hosh now could take a win off crippled Teru, but Hosh even at his best would struggle against prime Teru.
>>221144And tradition is there's at least one yokozuna, the pre-Akebono period was an exception and only lasted half a year.
>>221148We don't actually know what Hosh's best looks like. For all we know he could only just be hitting his stride. You can only really compare dudes in hindsight.
>>221149>the pre-Akebono period was an exception and only lasted half a year.It would take less than half a year to just wait until the next basho and remove all doubt on whether Hosh deserves it or not.
>Yokozuna talkI kinda hate hoshityuI kinda hate kotoACKuraI kinda hate tobizaruBut I really hate Abi. Ozeki never ever lol.
>>221152>Hosh doesn't deserve it because Onosato won>Onosato doesn't deserve it because Kotozakura won>Kotozakura doesn't deserve it because Hosh wonRepeat.
>>221154Wouldn't be the worst
>>221148Hosh wouldn’t even beat 12-3 teru last yusho
>>221154I would be down for this, it sounds like kino. Maybe another guy can sneak up to ozeki in the meantime
I didn't even watch any of this basho because of the lack of natto
>>221160>he didn't knowhttps://theforevercove.com/
>>221161I already spoiled myself with the results so it seems pointless now
>>221059Not to be mistaken with Hokutofuji Daiki (Daiki Nakamura)
>>221156Bitch fucking please, Hosh would've given the robotic cunt a run for his money and you know it. Teru's last yusho was clamp or die because he couldn't fight any other way. But god what a great man. Calling him great for winning 10 yushos means jack shit, if his knees hadn't imploded he would've won 20 and been one of the greatest. What a sad story.
>>221168To continue on this, hearing that Teru swore to retire after his next loss when WTK beat him on day one this time fucking broke me. He asked Takeru to dew sweep for him and had his wife and kid in the crowd the next day because the dude expected to break down and fucking die day two. Takanosho and Kirishima should consider themselves blessed that they lost to such a glorious yokozuna before his retirement, and I don't doubt that this is a huge factor in why Kirishima found the fighting spirit to win 10 straight and make people remember why this time last year HE was the yokozuna candidate.We got to watch a majestic flame burn itself out.
Extrapolate your expectations on what is now the very early stages of yet another Daieisho possible ozeki promotion campaign Here is mine: he has shown in the past that he is very nearly capable of making the grade as ozeki, having come as close as 31 win in 3 consecutive tournaments, or 32 if you count a score he got while ranked M1, but he has never been able to close the deal so far. He is going to turn 32 later this year so if he doesn't make it now he probably never will
>>221170Teru was mid, he had the potential to be great, but he chose to be an alcoholic instead, many such cases
>>221173Bait post.
>>221172Who the hell thinks Daieisho is ozeki material? He's the king of S1e.
>>221175insane people in the mbovo chat thought daiesho was ozeki material. hes trash
>>221180his yusho was right around the time that twitch channel really took off, him sweeping the sanyaku in the first week would have been a lot of the twitch crowd's first impression of sumo
>>220785>>220792>everything known about that period of sumo is from legendsNo, there's a great amount of written records. It's just that very little of the truly ancient material is descriptive/narrative, and almost none of it is translated anyhow. Think of long pages of:>7th day of the 3rd month of the 2nd year of Kan'bo. Sumo at Kyoto. Tsuneyo defeated the Hote Netsuki by groin-kick. Munehira defeated Ujinaga by striking. Tomotaka and Masatsuka drew after a long battle.Also, the shorts are real.
>>221182I would accept international sumo if they at least wore those kinds of shorts.
>>221182>Tsuneyo defeated the Hote Netsuki by groin-kickImagine if 'bozan just kicked Neph in the balls.
>>221042>Announcing that the YDC are convening to discuss Hoshoryu publicly in the middle of the arena with a huge crowd of spectators watching plus live on television and then not promoting him would be so fucking dumb lmaoThe way I read your post was as if the YDC came down from the stands after the playoffs and did a monoii-style discussion in the middle of the dohyou about Hoshoryu's promotion for half an hour, before the YDC chairman got on the mic>えぇぇ、ただ今の協議についてご説明いたします。協会理事は豊昇龍に横綱昇進と上げましたが、昇進には不足ではないかと物言いがつき、協議した結果、昇進には不足あり、綱取りは続くと決定いたします。
>>221185Not even bothering to translate that gay shit. Hosh is #74.
>>221185>YDC gunbai dori
if he actually gets promoted with this his uncle's gonna tear him apart lmao
I'd wait one more tournament, no downside to it.
>>221191Exactly. If he could put up on more performance like this I think he'll have demonstrated he's consistent enough.
>>221189Why?
>>22119613-2JY 12-3Y is weak.
>>221197Yeah but he has no ability to deny a promotion, right? It really isn't up to him if they are so desperate they promote him.
this is a desperation promotion of a candidate that is at best marginally qualified, hopefully he will put in the work to eventually earn the gift he is being given but more likely he will sit on his ass and put up a bunch of 10-5s & 9-6s like kakuryu did. he won't be able to win as easily when all the other wrestlers smell easy kinboshis & shukun shos, everyone is going to be gunning for him.the last yokozuna candidate that got promoted with anywhere near as weak a performance was kisenosato with 26 wins in a JY, Y pair and that was controversial at the time and did not end up working out well.
>>221184kinBALLZan
>>221198No, but that won't stop him from talking shit
>>221199That's why I keep saying he has to win next time, or people will be skeptical of him. But if he wins next time and even if he sucks after that then at least he would have been promoted regardless.
>>221199>marginally qualified8 of the 33 yokozuna since the 6-basho era have been promoted with 25 or worse.
>>221032Sumo isn't a sport. Shameful display.
>>221203How many since futahagaro
>>221205What does that have to do with being qualified?
>>221205he was promoted in '86 so that's Hokutoumi and Onokuni.sadly, if hosh gets it, he will be the first to get promoted after losing to 3 maegashira. Wakanohana III is the closest one - he lost to 2 maegashira in his 12-3Y to get promotion.
>>221204
Okay, sweetys. Let's talk some FACTS. Neph's victory was anything but dominant, which in on itself should disqualify him from getting the rope after a loss. Hosh is clearly straining himself for those results and is insanely likely to underperform as yokozuna during the next basho.We're also forgetting the fact that this is not his second win in a row, but his second win PERIOD after years in the top division.Never took a win against the reigning yokozuna either, even Teru, who, while good, is definitely not even remotely close to Hakuho and his uncle.The people who might promote him will be getting the blame if he becomes a gaijin Kisenosato in the era of everyone being tired of mongols and they know it.Promoting him now would be nothing short of preferential treatment. And even the braindead mongoloid fans who cheer for it are setting themselves up for a disaster.
>>221210Congrats, you found a katakana that totally proves you right. Now translate the rest of the paragraph.
>>221215nice wall of text, but anyway, hosh did what he had to do, get yusho. it's up to shimpan and YDC to fuck it all up. i like hosh but he should not be promoted, yet. Hopefully YDC doesn't approve it.
>>豊昇龍、横綱に昇進したって!NHKで流れた!well, rip
https://hochi.news/articles/20250127-OHT1T51160.html?page=1>The Yokozuna Deliberation Committee, an advisory body to the Japan Sumo Association, met on the 27th at the Ryogoku Kokugikan in Sumida Ward, Tokyo, and decided to recommend Toyonoriryu (Tatsunami), an ozeki who won his second Grand Sumo Hatsu Basho, as the 74th Yokozuna. All nine committee members were in attendance and the decision was unanimous.Evil spirit bros...it was supposed to be our time in the haru basho...
>>221219good luck neph
>>221215Nice wall of cope.
>>221219>first nephew promoted to yokozuna>second nephew in jonokuchi The cycle starts anew. Good luck Hoshoryu, please do not grow to be a kinboshi printer for our sake.
>>221222unless he will be worse dispenser than harumafuji, he's ok.
>>221216>Now translate the rest of the paragraphDo you know what 興行 is?
You need a strong yusho!>kotozakura gets injured >teru retiresAlright maybe just yusho….
>huuur let's promote a guy who is clearly not good enough in hopes that he will magically adjust himself due to the pressureAnother 1-2 yuusho side rope embarrassment incoming.
Oh, I didn't even need to go as far afield as wikipedia, lol
>>221225You already got caught for being a dumb ESL and you respond by yet again cherrypicking words out of context instead of translating the entire paragraph like you were asked to.Stop being such an embarrassing sped.
>>221230>>221228kill yourself
I hope Hoshoryu becomes a good Yokozuna, but this promotion feels undeserved. If he is truly good, he would have reached this rank under better conditions, and I do not see Hoshoryu winning in March.The fact that Kisenosato, for example, won his shin-yokozuna basho does not invalidate the criticism of him being handed the promotion.
>>221173Fun fact: Yokozuna Hoshoryu has been abstaining from alcohol for the past year.
Sure, Hosh dropped a couple to some maegashira, but he also beat the sanyaku he faced this basho and also the guys who are going to be the sanyaku NEXT basho. One of those twice. Rope deserved.
>>2212375-106-97-8What do the guys with these rankings have in common?
>>221238They all fucked your mother last night?
>>221239They all fucked hoshzuna Fify
>>22123811-412-3 x211-412-3 x210-510-5What do THESE guys have in common?
so who's the first to get a kinboshi off horseshitryu?
KNEEL to your new Mongol God /sumo/
>>221242Abi would probably have the first crack at it. I think...?
you guys are so hilarious, shittalking place no.1
How bad will hoshoryu have to do for them to recommend him to retire
>>221246Consistently worse than the other Ozeki.
>>221246
>>221249>Onokuni x3.Good for nothing cunt.
I'm fine with Hoshoryu as a Yokozuna. Always felt it was a matter of time.That said, the allegations of bias against Takakeisho just got stronger. He had the same result and was not promoted. They also didn't promote him to Ozeki the first time he had 33 wins starting from Komosubi. He would have a far better career and a far better rivalry with Teru if he achieved the ranking and could rest when injured.
>>221252His 11-4 jy 10-5 12-pp jy 12-3Y should’ve really gotten him the rope he could’ve taken time off and then come back tearing people apart
>>221252He did not have the same result.
>>221252>>221254again, hamster was a 1 trick pony, the second you got his mawashi, he was done. he would also be totally out of breath just by doing dohyou-iri.
>>221258Doesn’t matter he won that’s all that mattered
I wonder how he is feeling right now. Propably seething
>>221261Not as much as Hoshoryu. In 2020 when he went 12-3J, 13-2Y he won 53. In 2022 when had the 12-3D, 12-3Y he won 61.Hoshoryu won 63 over the past six. Hoshoryu is more deserving.
>>221262He’s always a step behind a step behind in hosh but he has been better than hoshoryu recently and it’s not even close most wins in 2024 a win against a Yokozuna. He should be seething he got gifted the rope on a weak ass performance and if he was in peak condition this wouldn’t have happened.
>>221208Because the "two yusho or equivalent in a row" standard wasn't adopted until after Futahaguro was kicked out. They're judging Hosh on today's standard, not the standard of 60 years ago.
>>221263>two behind the new “yokozuna” with a broken bodyImagine if he was 100%
>>221267Imagine if Hoshoryu had been 100% this past yearImagine if Terunofuji hadImagine if Hakuho hadImagine in one hand, shit in the other. See which fills up first.
>>221265Correct me if I’m wrong, but was Asahifuji the first Ozeki to be promoted to Yokozuna under the updated/tightened standards? Hokutoumi and Onokuni came after Futahaguro’s promotion but before his expulsion. If we look at all promotions from Asahifuji onwards Hoshoryu will be the only one to be promoted on less than 26 wins. Of course, if Hoshryu rises to the moment and starts cranking out cup-winning performances then it won’t matter but if he sticks around for six or seven years and only wins a handful of cups, that will be a bad look.
>>221269>if he sticks around for six or seven years and only wins a handful of cupsThen he will have been a capable, average yokozuna. Stop comparing everyone to Hakuho.
>>221268>imagine if hoshoryu was 100%Being sad about your coach dying is no reason to go 8-7 he was 100% he’s mid and got promoted for ticket sells
>>221270Show me where I brought up Hakuho or stop putting words in people’s mouths. Hoshoryu is 25. We can expect him to be in sumo around seven more years. Historically speaking, that would be a long reign for a Yokozuna. They typically only last a few years. Yokozuna who are promoted young tend to last long (obviously) but also win huge numbers of cups Imagine if he just hangs around forever and wins a cup every year or every two years?
>>221269Correct, and immediately after Futahaguro retired Asahifuji was turned down for promotion multiple times in late 1988 and early 1989 until he finally won two in a row in 1990.>>221273>Imagine if he just hangs around forever and wins a cup every year or every two years?So, Kakuryu.
>>221273> Imagine if he just hangs around forever and wins a cup every year or every two years?Kakuryu? Granted, he was older when he got promoted and immediately entered the perma-injured phase of his career. What happens when Onosato hits high gear and starts gobbling up all the yusho in sight?
>>221261no, that's what you think. they want a complete package for yokozuna, not a guy who can be beaten easily with simple yotsu.
>>221274>>221275Kakuryu was 29 when he was promoted. The guys who were promoted when they were 25 or younger are guys like Taiho, Kitanoumi, Takanohana, Asashoryu, etc. he has a huge standard to have to live up to.
>>221242My guess is Takayasu
>>221272You didn't watch. He had a bum leg.
>>221273>Imagine if he just hangs around forever and wins a cup every year or every two years?THEN HE WOULD BE FUCKING NORMAL YOU DUMB FUCK. THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP HAKUHO.
Imagine if Horseshit never wins back to back tournaments and only gets like 3 or less more cups over 8 more years
When does Hoshoryu get his seabream?
>>221284also:Hoshoryu's chosen dohyo-iri / rope style is Unryu, same as Asashoryu.He will be taught the ritual on the 30th by Musashigawa oyakata (former Musashimaru), as per custom, wherein a former Yokozuna from the same ichimon is the teacher.
>>221275>Onosato hits high gear and starts gobbling up all the yusho in sightNot going to happen, fellow Onosatobro.
>>221286Onosato is the future cheap throws and pull downs will only work for so long this only his sixth tournament in the joi. He’s just too big and too good
>>221285thank you, cool info. still can't believe this motherfucker is gonna be a Yokozuna, first time I've seen a new one since I started watching in 2022
>>221197JSA said his JY was a Y in their eyes, so he essentially went 13-2Y 12-3Y with a three win playoff. That's a fine promotion desu.I fully expect uncle to appear at Tatsunami and spar with neph though. That'll be some good shit for youtube.
>>221292>That's a fine promotion desu.Wasn't good enough for Takakeisho who did almost the exact same thing
>>221293>It wasn't good enough for this completely different wrestler who did worseAre you retarded?
>>221262>I could've had an office job but nooooo, they just HAD to push me into sumo
>>221294>12-3JY and a 13-2Y with a playoff is somehow worse than a 13-2JY and a 12-3Y with a playoffAre YOU retarded?
>>221296Yes. It is. A 12-3 runner up is not an equivalent. Unless you have a source saying he was up for promotion at the time? And that's all as may be anyway. Look at the fucking results. Takakeisho was not a contender. He was a question mark.
>>221296The only time a 12 win jun has been equivalent in the post-Futahaguro era was with Kisenosato, which a) was influenced by Kise being the second strongest ozeki in JSA history, and b) was widely panned anyway. 13 wins was strong enough for Hosh's jun to be equivalent.
>>221296>Are YOU retarded?>Yes.Great. Thank you.
>>221258The important thing is the results and he got good results when healthy. His problem was never a lack of effectiveness due to being one dimensional.And if he were promoted to Yokozuna he would be healthier.They held him to a higher standard than others and at times were unfair to him. I remember one tournament where he got the Jun Yusho (I think Teru won that one) and they complained that "all Ozeki are bad" because the other ones had terrible results.>>221293Hoshoryu is not Takanohana's disciple. They might not be in love with Asashoryu but then, Asashoryu is more of a Kinbozan fan and probably is more of a Hoshoryu hater than anyone else.I have seen a few cases where they said "32 wins will be enough for Ozeki promotion" to a few rikishi while 33 was not enough for Takakeisho the first time around.
'keisho didn't get it because1) He's a terrible ambassador for the sport considering he's embarrassingly large2) His style of sumo isn't particularly exciting3) They already had two yokozuna4) His 12-3J 13-2Y is nowhere near as impressive as nephew's was. Did they come out before the tournament and say that Takakeisho was up for promotion because they considered his JY to be a Y? No? Well thenWhen Takakeisho fights you know he's just gonna push. When neph fights he could yorikiri, or he could throw, or he could just pick his opponent up and carry them out. Just look at the kimarite he's used to win his last 3 fights against Kirishima (who this time last year was up for zuna promotion).Hoshoryu didn't blaze up to yokozuna the way guys like Chiyonofuji or uncle did but he's passed the post imo.
>>221301Healthy Takakeisho was pretty much guaranteed to get 12 wins. This is Yokozuna sumo.
>>221281Show me the Yokozuna promoted that young and put up a performance like that. I’ll wait. You’re gonna be a while.
>>221301>His 12-3J 13-2Y is nowhere near as impressive as nephew's was.I'd say his yusho was since he actually beat terunofuji, which hoshoryu literally never did. Other than that they were really similar, actually. Takakeisho even lost to Shodai in his JY. Honestly I'd say his JY was porobably better than Hosh's since he at least lost to Tochinoshin, a former Ozeki. Hosh lost to fucking Abi.
>>221303That's not the point. It would be great if he did that. You seem to think it would be terrible. >>221302>Healthy TakakeishoDidn't exist.
>>221304>I'd say his yusho was since he actually beat terunofujiTeru was an 8 win M1e in that tournament.
>>221304And I'd say you are oblivious.
>>221300just like barry sander's dad, giving more praise to jim brown than his own son>>221301i'm not sure what's up with anons here, but everyone seems to be pampered by hakuho's era or something.. your average yokozuna isn't like that. chiyonofuji and asashoryu etc are the ultimates. We may be happy to even see a yokozuna on dohyou, let alone facerolling everyone.
>>221304>he actually beat terunofuji, which hoshoryu literally never didThat's because Teru was already peaking while Hosh was just starting his career. Saying Hosh is a bad zuna because he didn't beat Teru in juryo is fucking dumb, Teru should never have been down there in the first place.Hosh has only gotten better and stronger as time has gone on because that's literally how progress works. Teru never fought ozeki level Hosh once.
Takakeisho had his chance. He had the misfortune of still overlapping with the late Hakuho era, but then for years enjoyed a time of perma-absent yokozunas and aged and injured opponents and couldn't do it.He was competing with the likes of Asanoyama and Shodai and a bunch of randoms. By the time he got injured, that window of opportunity was gone.Hosh may not have an impressive score, but if you have any doubts, re-watch his wins and losses from the past year, and especially the past 2 bashos. He is Y tier, by far the most skilled man out there. Yes, he's not an Asashoryu or Hakuho, but he's more like a Harumafuji and that's fine. He's quality, unlike hamster and especially unlike the ozeki shitters we've seen come and go.If he managed to stay healthy for the next 5 years and gets 1 yusho per year (and we assume Zak or Takerufuji rises up alongside him soon), he'll retire with around 7-10 yushos, which is perfect and indicates a strong Y.
>>221308>Asashoryu was actually a Chessmaster and didn't support Hoshoryu because he knew the JSA would be harsher against Hoshoryu if he did it
>>221307>And I'd say you are oblivious.Doesn't mean much when I posted actual information and all you can talk about is me, something you probably know even less about than what we're actually talking about.At the end of the day I'm not even saying Keisho should've been promoted. I'm saying NEITHER of them should be yet. It's premature for Hosh and I haven't seen anyone make a good argument for it. All anyone really has is "Well yeah it's early but maybe he can prove he deserved it..." which isn't a great attitude.>>221309>Saying Hosh is a bad zuna because he didn't beat Teru in juryo is fucking dumbI didn't say that, we were just comparing the strength of JYs. He might be a great Yokozuna, but if he has that potential then there's no harm in waiting for him to show one more good tournament.
>>221310He had a JY+Y combination twice. One of which had as many victories as the one that led to the current promotion
>>221310This. Takakeisho "what-if-ers" can fuck right off.
>>221313>One of which had as many victoriesIt did not in the ways that mattered and you need to get that through your tiny peabrain head.
>>221314If the JSA had the same rule for him as they have for everyone else.For some people, they stated 32 wins would be enough for Ozeki. For Takakeisho, 33 wins was not enough the first time around.
The JSA want sumo to be exciting. Hosh's 13-2JY was exciting because the very last fight of the basho was a 13-1 face-off between to two highest rank men in the basho. It was basically the perfect basho. His 12-3Y was exciting because it came down to a three way play off, and our man completely crushed it winning three fights in 20 minutes. The next basho is going to be even more hyped up than this one was.>>221312>there's no harm in waiting for him to show one more good tournamentThat's two months of formalities that can't be conducted due to sumo not having a zuna to conduct them, when Hosh has already crossed the line set for him anyway (14 wins due to the three way tie EYE EM OH).
>>221314God damn, Hakuho was so good.
>>221312>I posted actual informationSee the attached picture. >>221297.Takakeisho: 7 double digit winsHoshoryu: 9 double digit winsTakakeisho: 29 absencesHoshoryu: 6 absencesThe information is there. >I'm saying NEITHER of them should be yet.Goalposts? Has anybody seen the goalposts? I think some faggot moved them.
>>221305>You seem to think it would be terrible.again, putting words in people’s mouths. No one else is bringing up Hakuho. EVERYONE understands he was an aberration. You don’t need to reiterate it. Relax.
>>221318A small child could've made that final push.
>>221321....
>>221310If Hosho sticks around for 5+ years, consistently getting a couple JY year, a Yusho, and otherwise getting 10 wins I would say he's had a good career. The thing I want is someone at the top that puts the chaos in order. Someone who is consistently good and a huge wall for anyone trying to take a cup to get over. Without a strong guy/guys on top things stop making sense.
>>221322Keisho only had 5 seconds of fight in him and that webm is 32 seconds long.
>>221320Then why do you keep bringing up your scenario? Do you think it would be a good thing?
Hosh is going to go 14-1 and the retards here will call him a kinboshi printer.
>>221325he brought it up once in his first post you just keep badgering him for some reason
>>221327If he keeps responding, I will continue to point out that he's wrong. Pretty simple really.
>>221326His first match as Yokozuna should be Oho, who should be the west komusubi. It would only be fitting to lose to the man who saved his Yokozuna bid by beating Kinbozan.
>>221323Yep. Expect one or two guys to achieve similar results and get Y promotions, where they consistently put up double digits and challenge for the yusho but noone stomping the whole calendar year like we've used to see in the past decades. I'm betting on chicken legs, then Zak and slightly less favouring Onosato but still a possibility. We'll settle into this by the end of 2025 and that'll be the end of these clown bashos with maegashiras constantly in the yusho race.
>>221329West will be Abi. Demoting WTK on 7-8 but not demoting Abi on 7-8 would be grossly unfair.>>221330Why would you favour Zak over Onosato? Someone who sometimes yushos is a better zuna than someone who always goes 11-4.
>>221332Right, Onosato is actually already more successful than Zak.Still, I see Onosato as Asanoyama 2.0, someone who'll fail to live up to (ultimate) expectations, largely due to having Kisenosato as coach. Somehow I feel Takerufuji will overtake him. As for Zak, I expect he's got a huge motivation boost now with Hosh's promotion.
>>221323A breakdown of yokozuna by age at time of promotion vs how many yusho they won. (This is a little older so Terunofuji’s total is off)
>>221203right but name some of them, they all sucked. hakkaku was the only on that was even marginally successful and he won only one cup in the two years following his promotion. good wrestlers don't need special treatment to get promoted because they're already banging away 14-1s & zenshos. even zak can put up a 14-1 when he isn't injured. god save us, hopefully onosato, takerufuji or aonishiki can develop into real yokozunas before horseshit's discount kinboshi giveaways bankrupt the jsa. the zabutons are going to be flying so regularly that tokyo won't see any sunlight at all during basho fortnights.
>>221209>Onokunihe had a 15-0 immediately preceding his 12 & 13 win JYsand he still sucked
>>221335> the zabutons are going to be flying so regularlyAren’t they bolted down at one of the arenas?
>>221335>god save us, hopefully onosato, takerufuji or aonishiki can develop into real yokozunas before horseshit's discount kinboshi giveaways bankrupt the jsa. the zabutons are going to be flying so regularly that tokyo won't see any sunlight at all during basho fortnights.kek, there is chance this could happen though
The real question is who’s the next ozeki in the making besides chicken legs
>>221333Zak's problem isn't motivation; it's family. You know that thing American parents do where they push their kids too hard in sports because they want to vicariously redeem their own childhood failures through them? Zak is that kid.
>>221334So it could go either way, I suppose.
>>221339Right now no one. Daieisho and Kirishima both got the first bashos of what could be a run, but only Kirishima is capable of it and even then he could -ACK at any time.
>>221337It is unclear.
>>221215>The people who might promote him will be getting the blame if he becomes a gaijin KisenosatoThis, if the YDC doesn't commit mass seppuku after horse's inevitable 10-5 or worse debut then they have no honor.
>>221342It’s doesn’t have to be right now but I think Aonishiki and hakuoho will be there shortly
>>221345If we're talking lower ranked guys on the up then it's Takeru and Oho.
>>221346I’m not sold on oho yet competition this basho was pretty weak
>>221348Oho isn't on an ozeki run, he's on a run to avoid double digit losses in March.
its never even been half as over before as it is right now
>>221341So the average for past that line is 5.56 yusho (if you don’t include Chiyonofuji, who was a freak) or 7.06 (including the Wolf)Figure Hoshoryu wins a single yusho per year for the rest of his career and that would make him slightly above average. The only real difference though is that the current makuuchi is much weaker than in previous eras and a lone, healthy yokozuna should be more dominant than not.
Is Shishi getting a clue or he'll stay as a yoyo wrestler alternating between lower maegashira and Juryo until injury finally puts him out of the salaried ranks and he retires?
>>221317>It was basically the perfect bashoThe worst take in this entire thread, maybe even this entire board.You are out of your fucking mind. Hosh getting promoted off this yard sale is an EMBARASSMENT. It was a total shit show basho with zero consistency saved by maegashira fucking jobbing to other maegashira. Perfect my fucking ass. Nobody was hype for this crap until the literal moment a playoff happened. And even then, it only went how it was supposed to, which if the rest of the basho had done that, the playoff wouldn't have been needed in the first place. Not one single rikishi showed anything of worth at any point. What, should I be impressed that an Ozeki beat two maegashira? Give me a fucking break. Hosh losing to shitters is why that was a situation to begin with. It was a joke of a basho and your opinion is fucking silly. Fucking twit.
>>221348>>221349Honestly, I’m just happy he had a good tournament. I was a Myogiryu fan when I started following Naya/Oho, so my standards are comparatively low. I’m not looking for ozeki, just good hard fights and maybe a cheeky cup win.
>>221351I'm guessing actually that era of weakness is over. Looking back at the top division of 2025 January 10 years later, we may find it a respectable crowd. A lot of guys in there are presumably before their peak now, not way after like how it was in 2022.
>>221352Shishi is a dark horse ozeki or Zuna he has the size just look at them thighs hosh will never be able to throw that man he just needs the skill
>>221353Weak bait, but have a (You)
>>221354He hosed my kachi clash once so I’ve been avoiding him but he’s looking great
>>221357Suck a turd out my ass if you want some bait, you dumb bitchCalling out retards isn't bait, that post wasn't and this one isn't either, you fucking drooling moron.
>>221353>getting this mad but not even understanding that he was talking about November not Januarylel
>>221353They hated him because he spoke the truth
>>221355Yeah, that’s what I’m getting at. Right now there’s a lot of talent that still has growth in them (Takerufuji, Onosato, Oho, Hakuoho, Aonishiki, Atamifuji)Hoshoryu is kind of the oldest of that cohort and matured first. Once they hit their peaks, the level of competition could really heat up.
>Joke-ozuna
>>221339I just want my boy Daieisho to get there
>>221366I enjoy Daieisho as well but he always chokes
>>221361Yeah I totally misunderstood when he said Hosh's 12-3Y which OBVIOUSLY refers to the November basho that Hosh lost with a 13-2JY, which is why I explicity talked about the yusho and not the jy, because that would make fucking sense.You are an insufferably arrogant fucking retarded moron.
>>221364>atamamifujiSempai thought he could slide tomatoe in there without us knowing
>>22134410-5 wouldn't be the worst
>>221352He will have a good amount of banzuke real estate below him in March so he could do pretty bad and still stay in the division.>>221356His upper body has developed quite a bit since back in 2023 when he was all legs, he even has traps now, he could end up being quite a monster if he keeps on developing at the same pace. Imagine Aonishiki's upper body on Shishi's legs, but proportionate.
>>221368>the very last fight of the basho was a 13-1 face-off between to two highest rank men in the bashoAnon....
HORSESHITRYU IS GONNA RETIRE WITH 0 YUSHOS AS A YOKOZUNAscreencap this
>>221369If his injury is healed in March, look for him to farm mid rankers over the first 10 days and compete for the cup. It'll be his first basho ranked below joi in a long time, he JY'd both of his other two below joi bashoes and that was all the way back in 2023, he is way stronger now if he is healthy.
>>221374Why is he dressed as Macedonia?
>>221373Screenshotting so we can both laugh at this absolutely desperate move by the Jsa and ydc
>>221370>asashoryu 2003: 10-5JWhat the fuck happened that basho that 10-5 was the runner up?>>221368Buddy you either need to learn to read and calm down if you're serious, or fuck off and stop baiting
>>221369I thought about adding Kotoeiho kek. Atami will be fine. He’s still only 22 and spent the last year in the joi. People started to figure him out. He’ll go back, learn new tactics, get stronger and have a perfectly fine career like a Takarafuji or Aminishiki.
>>221377
>>221372>>221377I really can't believe I had to actually quote this for you absolute retards>His 12-3Y was exciting because it came down to a three way play off, and our man completely crushed it winning three fights in 20 minutes. NOW WAS I TALKING ABOUT THE JY OR THE YCome on you pair of geniuses, bend your mighty comprehension and towering reading abilities to this test and tell me you aren't complete fucking morons (you are). Goddamn dumbass pieces of stupid retarded shit.
>>221345>Aonishikihe is still very young and still also on the small side because of that. if he can continue charging up the rankings then he is going to be a monster when he is getting towards his prime in 5 years.
>>221380Then why did you quote the bit about the perfect basho?
the evil spirits have infested the thread...
>>221380
>>221382Oh NO you GOT me, that one sentence completely changed the meaning of everything I said! Now everything I said applies ONLY to Hoshs JY and not his Y, even though I was specifically talking about that! Damn! What a blunder! Get fucked, you stupid retard. Use that comprehension that so bloats your repulsive, swollen ego.
>>221353>saved by maegashira fucking jobbing to other maegashiraDown by two going in to day 12, Hoshoryu convincingly beat the tournament leader to bring himself within one, then won out the rest of the way to give himself a chance, including demonstrating clear superiority over the other two ozeki. When he got that chance, he remained perfect and again convincingly beat both playoff opponents, both of whom he had already defeated in the same tournament.I, personally, don't think he should've been promoted, but it's obvious the JSA and YDC looked at that display of "never give up" spirit and held it in his favour. They have historically favoured rallying from behind over falling flat at the end. When the chips are down and everyone's exhausted at the end of the long, gruelling tournament, that's when true sumo spirit shines through, or at least that's what they seem to believe. Everyone knows even the greatest yokozuna will drop kinboshi in the first week every so often, it's what they do against the rest of the frontrunners in the second week that makes them true yokozuna.
>>221386>It was a total shit show basho>Perfect my fucking ass.Also these two sentences.
I think we all gotta take a step back and laugh at the Jsa’s desperation for a Yokozuna after them telling us for years they were okay with teru retiring
>>221389Read that post again, you fucking shitwit. That's one characterization which was completely tertiary to my point to begin with. WHICH IS THE POINT IM MAKING NOW. Holy FUCK you people are stupid beyond fucking belief. This is like a fucking fever dream of fucking retardation, Jesus fucking christ. I'm so glad this shit basho is done so I don't have to interact with you total fucking morons any more. Damn the drunk retarded apes that gave birth to such subhuman devolved creatures like you.
>>221388Why is someone as sane as you even here? Go read a book or do something useful.
>>221383It happens after every single basho. In a couple days when the thread goes back to having maybe 4-5 posts per days people will calm down and control themselves
>>221394If only we could see which flag they flew....
>>221392
>>221391Honestly I don't think it was desperation so much as backing themselves into a corner pre-emptively saying the 13-2J was yusho-equivalent. The moment they did that, they opened themselves up to a 12-3Y, or even 11-4Y, being enough to promote. What they should've done and said "given Hoshoryu has already won a yusho at sanyaku, we will consider his promotion if he wins in January with 13 or more wins."
>>221388Good post wasted on its recipient>>221392You're a funny guy, I applaud your commitment to the bit
>>221398They said strong yusho and then changed it to yusho
>>221364takarafuji is older than hoshoryu. its really only the last three that are young.
>>221402I heard yusho with 14 wins which he did if you count the playoff.>BUT THE BANZUKE ONLY SAYS 12-3!!!Seethe. Actually seethe.
>>221383Let me take care of that for you anon.
>>221405Takarafuji is in fact MUCH older, yes.
>>221405>Hiradoumi shares a birthday with Hitleruhhh fan club department??? i'd like to submit a new application
>>221406Moving the goal post for the nepo baby
At the very least this should shut up the "reee, anti-foreigner bias!" retards.
>>221409dark days when people only mention my boy because of a typo.
>>221412Heh, good one.
>>221413I miss clicked the autoprompt. it hard to watch him. the strength isn't there and i think he lost the fighting spirit after dropping to juryo. hanging on for the paycheck till the inevitable fall out of salary ranks
>>221413Takarafuji is still only a typo of Takerufuji, sorry.
>>221416He's alternating about the same as he did before he dropped honestly. He hit double digits a couple tournaments back, but once he gets up to mid maegashira he can't hang as well. Just getting old.
What would be your style of sumo?For me, it would be forearm smash to the face -> yorikiri
>>221419I'd not bang the salt off my hand after the throw then my tachiai would be that hand onto the face and over the eyes of my opponent.
>>221419Hit, shift and push out from the side or back. I always think that's sick when it happens.
>>221419Slap.
>>221419Hassou tobi every match.
>>221419Get the belt and the break their nose or orbital with a sharp elbow they lift out don’t see any rule against it
>>221425Probably because if you moved to elbow they would just throw you before you hit them.
JSA consistently promotes undeserving mongols because they're afraid of being accused of racism
>>221426Only losers lose to a throw and an elbow from the clinch takes 1 second https://youtu.be/wC-Wo3HJ9Pw?si=MmJIw0VbPNnJiJ9Q
>>221427>consistentlyName 3.
>>221433Hoshoryu (ozeki), Hoshoryu (yokozuna), Kakuryu
>>221431You sound like you're 12.
>>221427Wow I didn't know Kisenosato was Mongolian.
>reddit wonits over...
>>221434If you're going to play that game you should have said Kiribayama.
>>221435And you sound like you’ve never been in a fight
>>221439Ditto.
>>221431There's a reason sumo wrestlers don't look like MMA fighters, and there's a reason they don't fight like MMA fighters.
>>221441I’ve watched enough sumo to realize when these fat boys are locked up they don’t move a lot one of them could easily pop them with an elbow and get back on the belt rules says not closed fisted strike I don’t see anything about elbows
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>>221187>YDC torinaoshi
>>221443Sure there are plenty of ways to injure your opponent, but thats not the point of sumo.You are misled if you think they would allow shit like that.
>>221219>All nine committee members were in attendance and the decision was unanimous.Holy shit! I did not expect that. Especially a unanimous decision.
>>221418not talking about his records, more his sumo. he was always like a brick wall, win or lose it. less of that showing through.
>>221438he had 34 wins, a jun, and a yusho in his ozeki run.
>>221443Those fat boys do sumo every day. They are aware of the concept of elbow strikes - they don't do it because generally speaking it doesn't work, and letting go of a good belt grip will usually cause you to lose. If you're very good you can sometimes pull it off - Hakuho did it a few times. Most people aren't as good as Hakuho, though.
>>221335>but name some of them, they all sucked. hakkaku was the only on that was even marginally successful>Taihou>Tamanoumi
>>217607Ikazuchi moves up the rankings for sure Ajigawa gets on the list tooOnosato up to O1e & Shirokuma getting either J1 or a full makuuchi promotion should advance Nishonoseki's rank
