No rules except no weapons allowedWho is the strongest of all time?
>>185549goku
God
>>185550on Earth in this physical reality, among humans
>>185553Me
>>185549Nobody has ever beaten me in a fight.
>>185549Probably Jon Jones or Fedor Emielianienko. Between these two Jones probably wins because reach advantage helps him utilize eyepokes.
My mom
My dick against your mother.
>>185549Probably some jacked genetic freak paleolithic hunter
>>185549No one ever stood on top as uncontested or above everyone else Every top tier fighter have a real chance of beating even the champions of each championship in their own martial art. but if I have to name someone it would have to be someone from pride, k1 or UFC jon jones is a joke
Aleksandr Karelin, no contest
One day I will show the worldI'll go on street beefs and display my martial arts
>>185808>Has a fake MMA matchHe lost all his cred after that
>>185802>No one ever stood on top as uncontested or above everyone elseSeveral people have done it. Some have never lost a fight. Some haven't lost any fights until they got too old.>jon jones is a jokeHe's a joke until he kicks you in the head
I really wonder where these dudes would rank. I know Hafthor and Eddie both looked like absolute shit in their fight, but that was boxing. If they trained grappling for like 2 weeks, in an enclosed space...even skilled heavyweights would struggle I think.
>>186045They would gas out and die of heart attacks.
>>186048I guess if Jon Jones is able to outrun them for 10 minutes in the cage yeah. If they get 1 hand on anyone its over, all they train is for strength
>>186049They wouldn't last 10 minutes, 1-2 at most.
>>185830calm down fan boy, there is no need for you to cry
>>186045Giant strongmen tend to have shit flexibility which is a necessity for grappling. Hafthor would get just as fucked up in a mma match as he would a boxing match.
>>186196Why would I cry about Jones winning?
>nibbas dont know about Dr Size
>>185802No.In this video, Ngannou was 2nd only to the UFC goat, Stipe Miocic.By learning basic skills and takedown defense, he OBLITERATED STIPE.>powerNgannou>strengthNgannou, OR Mariusz Pudzianowski, OR Alexander Karelin>durabilityNgannou, OR Stipe, OR Mark Hunt>speedFedor, but Ngannou is close and he is far more powerful and durable>skillFedor, or any lightweightsNow after UFC, Ngannou is much more skilled, especially in boxing. He would've obliterated Jon Jones (without eyepokes).>>186049>>185598Jones has a chance because>no rulesHe can use eyepokes and running + kiting to prevent anybody who's actually stronger than him from beating him.>>185791>>185808These are decent answers but Karelin likely doesn't punch harder than Ngannou. Karelin himself said he was hesitant to punch because he didn't want to hurt people (he actually learned boxing before wrestling)."Samson" would mog even Ngannou, he existed.
>>188228>Now after UFC, Ngannou is much more skilled, especially in boxing. He would've obliterated Jon Jones (without eyepokes).Maybe Jones would take him down before getting knocked out. But the problem with Jones is he bulked up to heavyweight way after his prime. Nevertheless, he beat Gane much quicker than Ngannou.
>>188241Context matters. Ngannou's knees were WRECKED during that fight.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/mma/article-10443227/Francis-Ngannous-coach-reveals-details-champions-torn-MCL-UFC-270-fight.html>"Three weeks ago I hurt my knee. Tore my medial cruciate ligament completely, hurt my ACL and other stuff."Fair enough though, Jones was indeed past his prime when he bulked up. But then again, Ngannou started MMA at 22.>He had MRI and it was a full MCL tear, and then he had damage to the ACL as well. >Maybe Jones would take him down before getting knocked outBullshit. Do you think Jones is a better wrestler than Stipe Miocic, who is a natural heavyweight? Maybe his skills are better than Stipe's, but would it compensate for Stipe's natural strength advantage? Not sure, and Ngannou effortlessly rebuffed Stipe (granted Stipe was lighter in the rematch).Ciryl Gane said that Francis Ngannou was a freak of "raw strength", strongest human he ever wrestled.
>>185549Probably Prime Fedor or an uninjured prime Cain Velasquez.HW MMA isn't really better than that of their era.>>185808He was just a wrestler.
>>188247>HW MMA isn't really better than that of their eraI would say 2011-2021 was a good era for ufc heavyweight, now it sucks>He was just a wrestler.No, he was also a juiced monster
>>188228>By learning basic skills and takedown defense, he OBLITERATED STIPETakedown defense? Stipe literally tried to take him down 1 time in the fight and it was a baby attempt. Ngannou fought a guy pushing 40 who shouldn't be fighting anymore.Also, placing him above all those people, kek. Ngannou fanboys are mentally ill niggers.
>>188265Then who do you think is the strongest? You think that guy would beat Ngannou in a striking match? You think that guy is substantially better than Stipe at wrestling?
>>188265MMA fanboys are the MOST DELUSIONAL fanbase on earth.>OMG he lost one fight>IT'S OVER YOU'RE WASHED, TIME TO RETIREDhttps://www.mmafighting.com/2021/5/15/22438145/dana-white-declares-if-jon-jones-want-fight-stipe-miocic-will-get-francis-ngannou-vs-derrick-lewis>“Jon Jones is under contract,” White said recently... “He has a contract. We have tried to work with him and see if there are things we can do to make him want to fight at heavyweight. But if he doesn’t want to fight at heavyweight, he doesn’t want to at the end of the day. What are you going to do? You can’t make the guy fight.https://www.mmaweekly.com/jon-jones-has-ufc-meeting-over-francis-ngannou-8-to-10-million-isnt-going-to-cut-it>Jon Jones unloaded on Twitter on Wednesday, saying he told the UFC brass that $8 to $10 million was way too low of a payday to fight Francis Ngannou.>After Ngannou took the belt from Stipe Miocic at UFC 260 on Saturday night, everyone expected a quick, Ngannou vs. Jones is next. That didn't happen.>Instead, Jones tweeted out, "Show me the money." White then responded by insinuating that Jones didn't really want the fight, that he should be scared to fight NgannouDana White lies to the fans 1,000,000 times, you believe him like the KEK THAT YOU ARE.Jon Jones literally went into heavyweight THE MOMENT Francis Ngannou left the UFC... what does that tell you?>>188247>Cain VelasquezWould get chinned. Grappling is the only way to beat Ngannou, realistically. Yes he could piece up Ngannou with combos (assuming you think he's more skilled and more threatening in striking than Tyson Fury), but Ngannou can take bombs from Stipe Miocic for 5 rounds straight, and an overhand elbow from Tyson Fury who is 330lbs.>FedorHe would also get chinned, but I think he would have a chance in grappling.Judo throws are less brute-strength based than wrestling leg takedowns. But based on Fedor's personality, I think he'd strike, long enough to get KO'd: >>188228
>>188250>No, he was also a juiced monsterThere was no shortage of juiced monsters in MMA
>>188430None of those juiced monsters were as strong as Karelin. Juiced Demetrious Johnson =/= juiced Ngannou or Brock Lesnar, and Karelin would MANHANDLE those two in wrestling.
mike tyson with takedown defense and legkick checking
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Xi Jinping>no weaponsdoesn't matter, he commands an army
>>190316>Army of AsiansPutin or America stomps
>>185549>strongestProbably Bjornsson, Pudzianowski or whoever is the strongest strongman who became a fighter
>>185550>>185553Goku is real, he goes to my gym I met him once
>>190478No fucking way
>>185549Brock Lesnar would be pretty bad to fight under those conditions. But then again the strongest of all time? Bronson was a pretty mad lad to try and fight, dude was the in real life Unchained because he would often break out of his prisons to the roof and so on. But then again the militaries have crazy people we don't know much about and those guys are basically fighting WITH weapons and surviving no holds barred fights daily.
>>190502>Brock Lesnar would be pretty bad to fight under those conditionsA liver kick and he collapses
>>190478i wanna believe ;d
Fuckin Dale Gribble https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StgjzHQafDM
>>185549not a single uncontested answer, this is enough to say that there is not an all time great life is not like animealso the strongest of a time can not compete against the strongest of another genration either so there is no way of saying it I would say that pride give fighters the best set of rules to find that out but like I said not uncontested all time either
>>190614>the strongest of a time can not compete against the strongest of another genration either so there is no way of saying itMma got popular very recently so even if two fighters are from different generations, we can often find a one who was compiting for long enough to fight both. On the other hand, before there was mma, there was vale tudo which was much less popular than current mma but also much less restrictive.
>>186045>2 weeksMaybe 2 yearsOne would think that if Hafthor or Licis or whatever dedicated a few years to a solid striking and grappling base they'd be monsters, but then, Pudz fight record was nothing special.
Across all time & across all styles of combat sports, Willie Pep has one of the highest numbers of professional fights, with a record of 241 fights, winning 229 of them. Among the top fighters in terms of both the number of fights and wins in the history of combat sports >https://sportscroll.com/ranking-the-top-professional-fighters-in-combat-sports-history>b-b-but boxing don't countEat shit & kys. Boxing paved the way & when it's good it's still WAY more entertaining than most MMA matches & when it's bad its as entertaining as your average MMA match. Fuck out of here with all that rolling around & hugging fag shit.
>>190631>Willie Pep has one of the highest numbers of professional fights, with a record of 241 fights, winning 229 of themSaenchai has 382 professional fights with 331 victories.
>>190631>WAY more entertainingThat's not what the thread is about though you fucking moron. Looks like you got hit in the head a bit too much, go back to learning how to bob and weave
>>190667>butthurt & bored MMA fagLol>>190636That's cool, but how many of them were in broke ass ghetto circuits in thailand? Of course you're gonna have a bunch of fights when there are hordes of malnourished prepubescent boys 1 fight away from throwing in the towl & becoming a tranny faggots.
>>190701>braindead & illiterate CTE fagLmao
>>185549Since you mentioned only strength and not skill I’m gonna guess former strongman/mma fighter Mariusz Pudzianowski
I'll just say Li Shuwen. He was known for his nickname "No Second Strike".I dunno if he was the best fighter ever, but I'll say he was the strongest for the sole reason his signature was never ending a fight in more than one strike. One hit and you were out.Very likely dead. Actual one punch man over here, you bet he fought challengers of all heights and weights in one of the most violent and battle-fueled periods of chinese history, and he still never lost. He was also kind of insane. Sadly for him, his strength didn't protect him from getting poisoned by the families of his victims.
>>186045These guys made the top bjj heavy weights look like helpless toddlers. They don't need technique they just crank your limb and it snaps or they slam you repeatedly into the fucking ground like a grapefruit
>>190502Bronson was fighting pissed up travellers and prison guards he wasnt fighting MMA fighters don't get me wrong he is a crazy guy but I think you are overestimating him
>>193418We'll both be long dead before either of us could find an example of a historic Chinese fighter who's skills and abilities have verifiably not been exaggerated by several orders of magnitude, it's literally 99.9% bullshit, it's kind of their specialty, especially with martial arts.
>>194048You might not be wrong, but so could be said about anyone else couldn't it? The fact that he got this name during a period of extreme violence still probably means there was some truth to it, otherwise he would've just been another nameless kung fu man like the rest during that time.
>>194121With a country with such crushing limitation around the ways in which you could fight, both culturally and in terms of simply how much we knew about fighting, it doesn't take much thinking to realize that 99% of chinks from that time would lose to the fast majority of modern MMA fighters, and it wouldn't even be close.
>>185549With the UFC and every major MMA promotions having a weight limit for heavyweight, we will never see the peak of human potential, which would be a Shaq tier athletic dude having legit training and experience.
>>186048What if you gave them a shit load of EPO?
>>190701You think your favorite old timer boxers didn't fight hundreds of cans?
>>185549my dad can beat up your dad
>>194136One thing is dying from a brain concussion due to a pro boxer's punch, another thing dying because someone hit you so hard with their bare hands your eye popped out of your eyesockets. You need superhuman strength for that shit, and I don't think it's all myth. While it's true that the chinese were pretty hermetic when it comes to their styles, they also LOVED to deboonk eachother all the time just like all the autists in this board do, so the fact that his rep stayed like this throught his whole lifetime, and the way he died, imo proves that he definitely did do some nasty shit, not to mention his style ended up being the main one used by their secret service. Secret services really don't fuck around.
>>194298Some promotions allow giants and some of hese giant like Bob Sapp and Hong Man Choi were quite popular but non of them was very successful in mma. The largest mma champ I can think of is Grigoriy Ponomarev who's 264-302 lbs.
>>194048Shuwen is more verifiable than most, purely because we know he was sought after, the People's Liberation Army hired his students for their security detail, and this was after the Boxer Rebellion humiliated the martial artist gangs/cults of China. Does it completely prove he was the greatest badass ever or something? No, but it does tell us the myth has some actual founding facts behind it.
>>195400I have internet access and autism
>>185791Very real possibility.
>>185550>loses to a rock
>>195740Yeah Angus is most likely the tallest and strongest human in existence that we know of but theres probably been some stoneage-giant freak of a man that we'll never discover that was bigger or some shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wegUewoVAUo
Probably current Khabib, he's like 93 kg now and still trains.
>>190194 literally this
>>195740>>200861>MacAskill appeared with the famous "General Tom Thumb," (Charles S. Stratton), who stood two-feet, six-inches tall. Stratton was only four years of age, weighing just 15 pounds, and measured 25 inches in height when Barnum first met him. Later, Barnum taught the shortest man of his time to sing, dance, and perform, molding him into an international superstar.
>>188401>Jon Jones literally went into heavyweight THE MOMENT Francis Ngannou left the UFCMore like>Ngannou left the UFC THE MOMENT he was supposed to fight Jones
Anatoly Malaykin is like 15 and 0 and has only had 2 fights get out of the first round because he hits so hard, current One FC heavyweight champ. I think he could take Jones, he actually fights a few times a year and Jones is getting too lazy from being rich. My guess is the first time Jones tries to put down the drugs and pick up the gloves he gets injured training
>>1855500:2 to fucking Jobbeta. A jobber who hasn't won a fight against anyone but Goku.
>>185562This is the only right answer on this thread.
Probably me
>>185549popey, fight me
Bud Spencer
>>204206Brock had to cut weight to make it to 265 too no? I think he hovered around 295 or 300+
>>188431What? Brock would have Karelin on his butt within 10 seconds in a freestyle match which is closest to MMA ruleset as far as wrestling goes
>>204703No
>>185549I would put my money on Jon Jones untill someone greater at MMA shows up. He has even had practice eye poking.
>>204691He was 310 according to Kurt Angle, probably closer to 300. Really makes you think
>>204206Brock at 300 pounds with no diverticulitis might be it
>>185549Bodhidharma. He taught the shaolin monks how to fight.
>>200861If stories about his strength are true, he's indeed the strongest guy we know about but I don't believe these are true. Also, I don't think prehistoric humans had enough food to get as big as him.
>>204206I think Ubereem might be stronger and Bob Sapp was almost certainly stronger
>>205012Ubereem seemed to have a stronger lower body when they were both 260-265 but remember Brock had to cut down 40-ish pounds to make the heavyweight limit
>>185551He couldn't even overpower some random dude when he wanted so he cheated.
>>185549Kenshiro is
>>205284Pathetic
>>205512Agreed, Omniman-san.
>>185549Probably some ancient warrior well never know the name of. As in people we know for sure existed? Probably alexander karelin. Dude was just build different
>>205661This pic goes so hard btw
>>205662Dude was good at wrestling but sucked at boxing
>>205665Can you read? The question was who is the strongest fighter not the best boxer
>>205661If you're Hindu, it's probably some guy you've power scaled to be equivalent to 1,000,000,000,000 soldiers with each arm. Christians might go with Goliath for someone natty and Samson for someone not. Some people think the gods were really romanticized versions of ancient heroes, if so then probably whomever inspired Heracles potentially wrestled a cave lion to death. The real problem is coming up with someone who could plausibly be over 6'6'' and 300 pounds before recorded history. That's right there is very difficult to believe
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>>200876Prime Jones was 101 kg before weight cut and Fedor was 106 kg
I believe in Jack supremacy.
>>208383It's too bad the author made Pickle so small. Not even breaking 300lbs. I'll turn a profit from Jackcoin but the value went down regardless
>>208419> It's too bad the author made Pickle so smallHeadcanon. Pickle is just a pathetic jobber.
>>208440No, he used to be enormous compared to now
>>185550WukongIf only physical strength then also wukong. Irl gotta be me.
>>185830Ah yes the famous groin kick followed by eye poke >Everytime
>>209203No one buy your fucking game China bot dont bother,
>>185549Putin>poisons your tea with polonium >bbbbut it's against the rules!>mightest write their own rules Cheers.
>>185549Gilgamesh
>>209107Baki is incredibly short. Yujiro isn't a particularly tall character, but he still frequently towers over Baki as much as Pickle does here.
https://www.si.com/.image/t_share/MTY4MTY4MDM3MDY4Nzc2ODMy/1976-0325-muhammad-ali-andre-the-giant-2_0jpg.jpgIt was André, you fools.Todd spoke to Olympic weightlifter and pro wrestler Ken Patera about André, who wrestled against and spent much time with André. Patera was, like Todd, both a world-class lifter and a strength expert. Patera said this in 1981: “Let’s put it this way, I honestly believe that if André took a couple of years away from the game to train like the top lifters do, and if he developed a close personal relationship with his friendly neighborhood pharmacist, the world powerlifting records in both the squat and the deadlift would fall. [The squat record was then 934.5 pounds (424 kg.); the deadlift record was 886 pounds (402 kg.)] No question. Think about it. He already weighs almost 500 pounds, with no lifting and no help from steroids. Hell, he’d weigh 600 or 700 pounds and not be any fatter than he is now, and let me tell you, that’s not very damn fat. He’s a wonder of nature. I’ve seen him pick up a 250-pound guy like you’d pick up your overcoat.”
>>209694Gr8 b8 m8
>>209482What's your point? Pickle was made to be smaller in Rahen than he was in Son of Ogre. As it turns out he's "only" about 2 meters tall and 130kg. The same size as Dorian and Suedo. Not small by any means, but he was previously insinuated to be over 213cm tall and 200kg
>>205661>Probably some ancient warrior well never know the name ofDono how people can believe that when nutrition was so trash historically. These days it's not unheard of to see 6'4 north east asian zoomers in countries like Canada because they have access to western diet then compare them to asians back at home lmao. Same thing applies to modern vs historical humans. Maybe if you go back far enough to like more primitive hominoids they would be much stronger because they are closer to apes though,
>>209840Plus the training would be lacking compared to now. No modern sports science, no fast information sharing across the world, no ability to watch recordings of old fights, etc. Much smaller, and more regionally limited, pools of competitors too. Modern fighters are likely the most skilled humans have ever been.>Maybe if you go back far enough to like more primitive hominoidsIt's possible. Would be sweet if we had a time machine for stuff like this.https://youtu.be/tvLR_djWjno?si=sPmXKnsCWok-45xo
>>209840No australopithecus is beating me in a fight.
>>185549T-Rex
>>200861Maybe - but maybe not. Consider that there are 8 billion humans today, whereas we peaked at barely a few million in prehistory, at the tail end.
>>209787>but he was previously insinuated to be over 213cm tall and 200kgno he wasn't
>>209936nta but yes he was. he towered over Jack when he was 213cm and Jack said it's like his jaw alone felt like 200kg. implying Pickle himself was 200kg
>>209845There are probably more martial artists alive today than in all of pre-1900s history combined.
Tom Aspinall unironically
>CTRL + F "gama">0 resultsEmbarrassing
>>211009This and probably quite swiftly aswell
>>210509Yes but none of them have actually used their skills in real combat>>211009has never fought except in padded rings with rules and referees, for example
That is to say the strongest warrior of all time was probably someone like >Musashi>Horatius>Benkei>that guy at the Battle of Stamford Bridge
>>209840>nutrition was so trash historicallylol you know absolutely nothing about history if you believe that nonsense
>>185549>2.58 m (8 ft 6 in)>340 kg (750 lb)>Sumo wrestler No one could beat this dude
>>212379if we're allowing weapons and solely measuring by K/D ratio then it would either be Simo Häyhä or whichever pilot gets credit for Hiroshima
>>209360Xi mogs Putin and globohomo gigamogs Xi
>>213354Moronic and not at all what I was saying. Have some sense, you twit.
>>213384Yes, it is. The examples you gave used weapons
>>214203>If I demonstrate one angle and a man is unable to bring me the other three, he is not yet worthy of discourse.Confuciusparaphrase: ur 2 dumb to talk to
>>205284>>205512that wasn't God but an angel sent by God to test Jacob
probably some pankratist, boxer, or wrestler from ancient greece. Their feats are still unmatched today and they would pulverize modern "fighters". Don't start with the modern nutrition and training meme, there's nothing new. This shit was found out and perfected thousands of years ago. Plus modern men are insanely weak even compared to only 100 years ago, everyone is hormonally fucked and nobody even has good cardio.
I think it was some caveman.There is evidence of early humans fighting wars and it's not like they had guns or even swords.
>>215787exactly. The Olympics and overall sports in ancient greece lasted for around 1000 years. Imagine the amount of experience and knowledge you'd get after a thousand years of learning from your mistakes and perfection.
>>185549definitely not Mike Tyson...
>>215787>modern nutritionAmong other things.
>>185562no me fite me irl
