Is Judo the best single martial art in terms of self defense?When it comes to street fights, almost everyone can agree that being on the ground is bad considering the possibility of things like glass being on the ground and someone else coming up and kicking you in the head. Therefore wouldn't the best martial art for street fights be one where the whole goal is to slam your opponent into the ground without falling yourself? Especially because while a person would expect punches and kicks from their opponent, something like a hip throw would likely catch them by surprise
>>198496>defendu>krav maga>systema
>>199215>>199222NTA but here is my useless opinion based of actual mixed martial artists: the combination of striking and grappling and all those skills which go into MMA is more than the sum of its parts. You can learn grappling seperately and striking seperately, and if you were to get into a fight where you can combine those skills, you would likely have some success, but within the competative environment of MMA, you need to be better. Because the combination of those things is in itself a skill. If you allow grappling, it would influence your striking and vice versa. There would be things you can no longer do because of the risk of attacks those styles trained seperately do not have to worry about. You are very close to getting this in admitting kickboxing may at one point have been two arts just combined, but now is a legitimate art of its own. Why do you think this won't happen in MMA? You keep refering to rather old example of elite mixed martial artists, but at this isn't the 90s anymore. There are no guys going into the octagon representing one style. Everyone, including those who come from one particular style, is still doing MMA, not just a combination of arts. As time progresses, and MMA becomes more and more popular, we are going to see more and higher quality MMA gyms popping up, and these will be able to teach MMA better than anyone can training seperate arts simultaneously.
>>197472It is somewhat deceitful that we all discuss "self-defense" martial arts which we usually train barefoot in loose exercise clothing, a state we're never in outside of the dojo. A strength of boxing is that your legs don't have to be that free for it to work and it just relies on your arms which are usually free enough even in normal clothing. You also never have to risk balancing on one leg for any length of time. Sure it leaves you vulnerable to leg kicks but how often do you see leg kicks in street fight videos? Leg kicks are a long-term strategy that's good for the octagon where you can reasonably expect a long fight, but street fights are panicky affairs with most people going all-in on every single swing from the first to the last.
>>197362Boxing, Muay Thai and No-Gi Judo all have an argument for them.
>>197362Nobody in this thread has ever been in a street fight and even if they were they would just run away and call the cops, so I wouldn't worry about it.
So this is the power of Kyokushin Karate...
/archery/ Thread #2What's your style?What you shooting?What you hitting?Recs for bows?Why is the Timber Creek Mamba the best first horsebow?
>>209001>>209056I had a lot of fun.It was a beginner tournament. Single 720 round with about 100 participants on a big outdoor field. 33 degrees and no clouds for cover, which was kinda fucked up, i only had a standard baseball hat, which i had to turn arround everytime i was shooting.My intention wasn't to win, just to avoid getting last and to see how a tournament is working. Out of 100 people, there were only 9 in the male barebow 25m category, and I placed 7th with 521 rings.I still have a lot to learn,like maintaining my chill and taking my time with each shot, since i got more and more nervous over time. I’ll definitely use many of your tips in the next tournament.I also got a retarded tan on my glove hand, which just looks stupid, since everything is still white, except my thumb and little finger. Makes me chuckle.
>>209102Did your tournament happen to be in Germany, by any chance?[spoiler]I swear I'm not a stalker. I'm friends with your clubmate, who shot 513 and came in 8th. He told me about the shoot, and details were lining up.[/spoiler]
>>209260hahaha, yeah, it was in germany.Funny how small the world can be
>>209002The thumb ring thing was retarded but his method of aiming works for me.
For some reason, I can aim reasonably well if I draw and shoot instinctively without holding at full draw while looking directly at the target (golf tee), but the moment I start thinking about things like where my anchor is and the angle of my elbow and trying to line up the arrowhead on a specific point accounting for distance and elevation I fuck up and go off target.
Is doing nature-based extreme sports with "inappropriate" weather conditions a true extreme sport? Is it considered by some as legit, a fringe illegal sport, or just plain suicidal?white water rafting at a rainy night, climbing mountains in winter when it's raining ,free solo when it's windy or rainy or moon-less night, even urban exploring with 0 previous research \tech\ emergency calls or beepers on you, etcIs this just suicidal? if it IS: why don't the (we know there's many) suicidal extreme-sporters do this more often?
Idk, I just went kayaking with an inflatable kayak knowing well it's going to rain heavily with thunder and had the time of my life. Had me scared shitless at times, but it was a unique experience
>>201652fuckin love tossing my bike down a good hill during severe thunderstorms
>>201652Surf would be on the list no?You can only do it when waves are big
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>>207165Are they really that similiar? Last training in bjj we did learn one throw but I couldn‘t use it and was basically lost during sparring, because I didn‘t know what to do during standing. So I thought maybe if I go crosstraining with judo I will learn becoming better on standing and with bjj I train mostly ground. For payment, it will basically just 10 bucks a month a more, because it is not a gym but more of a city thing, like football clubs in germany. That‘s why I don‘t expect actual hard training but more a mcdojo like where it‘s about principles.>>207209Not sure if I want to excel at one. I do like having this gi and belt thing, because my weabo self likes it. I want to loose weight and maintain muscles, also I saw a street fight where one cop threw some dude and thought hmm maybe doing judo on the side will not be that bad
>>207225>Are they really that similiar?Yes and no. BJJ is an offshoot of judo with much heavier focus on ne-waza, resulting in a different competition ruleset and a neglect of throwing techniques. If you train judo and BJJ at the same time you'll arguably be doing something closer to original judo than most people at sport-focused judo or BJJ schools.
judofags really believe this lmfao
>>207244see new thread>>207251>>207251>>207251
>>203769Throwing somebody to the ground can cause way more damage and gives you plausible deniability.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0C-DVnPeVM
Has anyone started swimming competitively as an adult? I never pursued it as a kid despite enjoying it but have felt like beginning to train and taking it seriously. Obviously competing against others who've been doing it their entire lives leaves you at a disadvantage. Just wondering what other people's experiences are.
>>205102I used to swim on a team middle school through high school.I got back into swimming simply to burn calories and get in shape 4 years ago.I lost 30lbs using a diet app and have gotten my distance up to two miles, or 3520 yards.For a few years now I've gone to the pool 2-3 times a week and swam two miles each time.In high school we swam 4-5 miles five times a week.I would highly recommend taking up swimming.When I started swimming again I would get out of breath doing just 50 yards ( 1 lap ).Now I can swim a whole mile without stopping, I timed myself a year ago and did a mile in 24 minutes, I don't want to compete and I don't know fi that's any good.I listen to music in the pool with a waterproof mp3 player, it helps keep me motivated.I also use one of those centered snorkels, breathing in through the snorkel and out through my nose.Since I'm only doing it for exercise, I don't care about breathing technique. The breathing tube take a little getting used to but it's worth it.I treat my swimming like a workout routine, so I swim most of my stuff like isolated muscle groups.I swim pull mostly. (Front stroke arms with a pull Bouey between my legs and no kicking).Then I switch to kicking with a kickboard and flippers because I hate moving slow and I think flippers let me exert more force on the water so I get more resistance training.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I want to do some sort of martial art but there are only judo places and an MMA place nearby, the MMA place focuses on BJJ, kickboxing and catch wrestling, they are part of the Zé Radiola team and some jap jiu jitsu org so I don't think it's a mcdojo at least, no clue how to check if a judo place is a mcdojo or not tho.I'm mainly worried about tearing an acl due to my fatness.
>>200336>I feel like I need a minimum level of stamina to get anything out of the lessons don't I?No.
>>200336Warmups are going to warm you upGood technique is all about efficiencyBeing physically fit is all about making up for your technical deficiencies with physical powerSince it's a martial art where the technique shines is where you're expected to >In grapplingMaintain energy and work rate, preferably with low-effort techniques>In strikingGenerate power and stay defensive with good mental conditioning and good formAs a protip UFC people mostly demonstrate exceptionally poor form and techniqueIf you want a recent example of technique beating athleticism watch Strickland beat Israel adesanyaAdesanya frequently changes from and does a bunch of mixups but Strickland maintained his hands up and did real basic kickboxing to beat Israel
>>198396Stfu plz
>>198414>i lift weightslol
>>198396OPyou're gonna be met with dumbass questions and opinions if you walk into a marital arts studio and say you exercise and have other martial art hobbies like archery.you'll be met with dumbass shit like>>200310>>206097and>"how do you think archery is gonna help you at BJJ?">i dont>"oh then why do you do it"the average person in a martial arts studio is sub iq and retarded as fuck.
Why do boxers have so much more fights than mma guys?
>>195529Cowards. The sumo lads headbutt each other at full speed 90 times a year, plus regional tours and training, and they've been doing it for centuries. Boxers are just soft.
>>201519And sumos die before their 60s usuallyGo get head trauma if you love it so much faggot
>>195396>>195605Muay Thai fighters have 300 fights or more.
>>201552Everyone here has head trauma, otherwise we'd be normal people who like normal, safe sports. The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
>>195605>Shit, I left the chicken in the freezer.> I need to finish this guy quick and come back home.
Banzuke is out >Schedule:https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnTicket/year_schedule/>Banzuke:http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx>All the sumo links and how to watch live:https://rentry.org/uwbgc88dPrevious thread: >>javascript:quote('198992');
banzuke is outsumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/
https://youtu.be/rzivZEuyCxsOnosato did 17 consecutive bouts with Kisenosato and went 10-7.
>tfw I thought the Basho started tomorrow
>>210335It did.
In a street fight, is it better to throw the first punch or counter? This is assuming you can't run, or kick because of the terrain. No weapons also.
>>199236You tuck your jaw in, get in stacce, put your hands up in the "oh on i'm defusing this situation" kind of way so you can defuse while being able to hit/defend easily.If its someone that isn't over 125lbs or 60 kg, you right hook to the jaw.If its someone that looks experienced in combat sports or is a fat bastard, you keep your distance and counter.If its more than one person run and if they chase you and you can't run away you find a narrow corridor where their numbers advantage is diminished and teep/cross.The real secret is having your game plan prepped ahead of time and being physically prepared as well.You can't think well on the spot unless you're a yolked combat sports guy yourself where its instinctually ingrained in you.
>>199236A question like this can’t be definitively answers without knowing the full context of the fight your in. If you’re just talking about winning the fight in general then yes whoever lands the first one or two good shots is usually the guy who wins a street fight. However, you have to consider that sucker punching a guy can land you in jail and usually looks worse in a court room. That’s not to say it’s NEVER justified, but again it depends on the context.
>>199236>is it better to throw the first punch or counter?The best punch is the one that hits. If the fight has started, you want to land that one before your opponent does.
>>199236you should shoot a double and control
>>199236Legally speaking, use of force is only granted if your safety or the safety of another is in clear and direct danger.
Post all things related to baton and knife fighting.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnis
>>187193What about european stick fighting styles like irish or that portuguese one?
There is a Modern Arnis place near me it's part of the Deutsche Arnis Verband. I'm interested in stickfighting and this is the only place near me but they don't do any sparring. What do you think guys?
>>203803Go for it! At least learn the basics of it.>No SparringI don't get this. Even the most obscure traditional style here still do sparring. Hell, they even make it into a game for festivals where you can win cash prizes (or livestock or whatever they have for prizes there). The catch is you have to fight on a long ass bench so that will limit your footwork. Points for limb shots, falling off the bench or losing your weapon is an automatic lose. Possibly as an exercise of their distinctive long range attacks of the style ("Larga Mano") that kind of looks like saber fencing in my opinion. I might be wrong though.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXvt3rutLdU
>>205523Nta. Looks like someone just applied an olympic fencing framework to it.
>>205523That looks really fun. I wish i could try that.
What is the best martial art for a pirate?
>>205063Brazilian jiujitsu
>>205374How can ye use brazilian jiu jitsu on yer frigate plunderin booty matey?
>>205399Honestly rolling on a moving ship sounds pretty fun. The rocking would cause constant off-balancing and make the match an absolute sweep fest
>>205432they have bjj and wrestling clubs on most navy ships
>>205432And so the idea of Pirate Jiu-Jitsu was born.
~~Compression edition~~>Where do I start?People typically start in the gym and branch off outdoors and find their niche, be it bouldering, trad, sport or a mixture of the above. Some never leave the gym at all. Ultimately it doesn't matter - just get started and enjoy yourself.>How fit do I have to be to start? Do I have to be able to do x amount of pull-ups?Being light, strong and flexible helps at the higher levels but climbing is open to almost anyone and is fairly intuitive to most. Even if your body is feeble and weak now, you will develop strength over time by virtue of just climbing. Climbing is a holistic sport and success often hinges upon many factors, not just strength and power, but having these qualities definitely helps when you breach into the higher grades.>What shoes do I buy?If you're starting out in the gym, don't worry too much: get some snug shoes without dead space that don't cause you lasting pain. Some people (such as the famed shoe designer Heinz Mariacher) recommend wearing soft shoes when you're starting out -- this makes sense since your footwork will probably suck and the increased feedback will pay dividends over time. You really don't need fancy expensive shoes when you're starting out, but certain shoe properties help send harder problems (e.g. stiff shoes for standing on tiny granite edges or soft shoes for sandstone/gritstone smears).Here are some useful resources for sizing:>https://sizesquirrel.com/>https://rockrun.com/blogs/the-flash-rock-run-blog/rock-climbing-shoe-sizing-guideComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>207426>Are mediocre people really watching someone who is just as mediocre as them for advice?Yes it's like that with youtube quasi educational content for a lot of hobbies.
>>207426>She has literally sent V6's/V7's>Has likely flashed your project grade>Talked to deathLet's talk about the real issues - Where are Ondrabros going to go next? Will 5.16a be set up soon? Is getting titanium implants into your hand cheating? Does Alex Hannold Dope?
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>>204167Last week i met Stefano and Megos at my local Craig and they both are small and short af.
how many untrained male average joes could a competent striker get through in 5 minutes compared to a competent grappler
>>199721>>199721Depends what you mean by competent but a world class striker can easily wash 5+ guys in a matter of seconds. IIRC Samart supposedly beat up a bunch of guys while drunk after losing his wbc title. But its not hard to find vieos of even amature boxers knocking out 3 guys.
>>199721ur retarded if you think any grappler ever can put away regular people more effectively than someone like pereira
>>199721Depends. If the striker gets grabbed he's fucked. Grappler could take down guys very fast if he isn't a bjjtard but shit can go wrong as he does his takedown and he might get dragged down.
>>205293Fairly true, you can just supple guys and kill them (or knock them out) if they fall on their head
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu GeneralOld thread is waaay past its bump limit edition.Having fun murdering your friends edition.Smoothcomphttps://smoothcomp.comBelt Checkerhttps://www.beltchecker.comPrevious thread>>199628Thread questions:What are you working on this week, this month, this year? Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>208717I recommend quitting to everybody and trying to convince people who don't want to go otherwise only ensures they'll never do it again in the futureIt's a value assessmentFor me it's a job, I quit and I lose moneyI can't imagine actually paying for this shit though
Are instructionals worth it?And if so where can I torrent them
>>210735I know where to find instructionals, but would you actually watch +4 hours of content? I find most people who ask "link" when I post instructionals I'm watching just don't do shit with them.
>>210735>is free educational content from high-level coaches and practitioners worth it?If you're asking this question then no, it's not: you're too blockheaded to get anything out of it.
>trained for a year a few years back, stopped as I kept getting injured>got good rehab and now want to come back to it>was maybe about 50% of the way to blue by the time I stoppedI'd like to get the blue in 6 months, it always annoyed me that I never got it. How would I maximise my chance of pulling that off? E.g. training 5-6 days a week, watching instructionals, competing etcI realise its based on a lot of factors out of my control (instructor, club, competition availabilty etc) but even if it doesn't happen I still want to shoot for it anyway. What *is* in my control that I can do?
