How do we save this shitheap of a martial art? All suggestions and general Power Era nostalgia welcomet. ITF 2nd dan (but not trained in years)
yall just wanna turn taekwondo into sanda lol
>>251112only if sanda had weapons fighting. Imagine three-section staff vs. wind and fire wheels.
>>251139most sanda places also do some style of kung-fu, so you could get weapons fighting as well
>>251156you misunderstand me. Like that nunchaku tournament in this thread. Sanda but add weapons.
divide it in 3 big groups>sportslet'em do whatever they want. buy belts. kiddy shit>martial artbring it back to 90s and before. some do barehand only, some do some yellow guy weapons stuff you won't find irl unless you own them plus knife and stick. we keep belts but you actually earn it on a tournament and you only spend on an official certificate based on your teacher's word). KO, TKO or give up.>martial fightingwe go OG manuals and myths. survival moves, that's it. Add current weaponry. Colored belts and light, gay uniforms are gone. Sturdy, Judo like gis that are styled like normal clothes for grappling's sake. Shoes stay on. A new, exclusive product: Roman Cestus like gloves (not the spikes kind) the Tae Kwon Do people now carry on their pockets 24/7. Tkd is now a thing you fear and respect again...and then there's foot jabbing with a helmet for the kids
It's Kendo.But you do it with real swords.
>>251271No such think in todays world.
>>251279You have no idea what goes on in the backyards of middle america
>>251271can I fence for real or I have to do the caveman bonk animation?
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>>248944Depends on how developed your muscles are. If you've never trained before then keep in mind that no matter the art that you do, your muscles will end up real sore after the first classes, so take it easy. Train anything that seems interesting to you, try some classes and see if you like 'em or not. My recommendation would be to avoid muay thai, MMA, sanda, and the like, since they'd be too "hardcore" for you. My suggestions for starting out would be boxing (best one overall, you'll get a ton out of it, except wrestling, duh), judo (unless you're really skinny or frail, if you really wanna do it then go to the gym first) or kickboxing (you'll get to know how to kick and punch well overall), and then you could try something like muay thai. If you like you could also check out more eastern traditional martial arts besides judo, like karate (any kind, though shotokan is more sport like), taekwondo (ITF, which is like light contact kickboxing if you want, WT is the olympic one, aka "leg fencing", and ATA is a scam) or kung fu (as far as i know, choy lee fut and bajinquan are the most practical styles)
>>248307sorry anon, he used you as a drinking buddy but now he's trying to go sober because of health issues. Sorry you had to find out this way.
I'm a fat fuck who's reasonably tall looking for a physically involved hobby. What martial arts would be best suited for me to pick up, so I can start looking around
>>251097any striking martial art is best for fitness, depending on your fat fuckicity, the only thing you'll run into as a problem is that there is a lot of "that's just how we've always done it" that can impact health in less healthy individuals. Any more fight-focused gym will always be watching your weight and joint health better. Train the school, not the style - find a school near you that's good and do that, if you enjoy it, stick it out. That's really all there is to it.
>>251103Thanks, anon. There is an isshinryu karate dojo near me that's in my budget. I'm going to start next week.
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>>251200Kata doesn't teach you how to fight, but that's not what it's for. Stripped of all mysticism, they're just solo drills that people can do to get extra practice in whenever.
>>251200My post was about how to digest palm heel strikes and open hand techniques because he was right, punch people in the face is cool af. I think you got it a little bit backwards with my meaning, I'm not saying the bunkai should be mined for grappling, I'm saying that mentally thinking of it as grappling helps train the technique. I agree with the modern notion that we're looking for karate to be a complete martial art (including groundwork) is silly, especially because learning karate grappling is such a waste compared to an actually grappling focused art, but I think there is space for more standing grabs than "long range krotty" leans into.
If bruce lee had been an Indian would his fighting style have been called Jeet Kune Do-ing the needful?
>>250415I get what you mean with wanting to do ninjitsu, though wouldn't karate + grappling like judo be enough?
Just did mats and controlled falling for the first time tonight. My back fall is fucked because for some reason my ass contains a untuck head button and i whip snapped into the mat when my sensei oushed me back. Every other type i had down, but falling backwards is fuckin hard. Just hope i dont have a concussion because that shit straight up rang my bell.
Is it time to accept that Caucasus wrestlers have debunked striking forever?
>>240427All of them literally train striking. Zabit Mahomedshapirov and Muslim Sakilov specialize in it. The 5 Directions school consistently produces great striking athletes.
>>244334Doesn't matter because your end goal when participate in this shit is to get money without turning your brain into mush in the process. If wrestlers pull that off, then they did the right thing, no matter how boring it may look to others. Tony Ferguson tried to be entertaining and look where he is now, a damaged wreck with less money than Khabib
>>240427Why western fighters don't train wrestling as much as them? They always go for bjj which has no takedowns and no pins. Craig Jones is marketing himself like antidagestani but had zero success.
>>242741>throwing you out the cageThe cage should be considerably larger too. This should make it easier to maintain distance from wrestlers.
>>250277BJJ is trendy in the west ever since it was used as the basis for UFC
A popular Alaskan climber fell to his death from Yosemite National Park’s El Capitan, marking the third death in the park this summer.Balin Miller, 23, died in a climbing accident Wednesday, his mother Jeanine Girard-Moorman confirmed.“He’s been climbing since he was a young boy,” she said. “His heart and soul was truly to just climb. He loved to climb and it was never about money and fame.”https://apnews.com/article/yosemite-climber-death-balin-miller-2b30976fd38680bcdbf7761ece3c0e5f?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us
>>244373Danger is part of what makes adventure worth pursuing and life worth livingIf you wanna be a pussy never handle a firearm and if you do handle one keep others in check including yourself if anyone gets high and mighty and aggro
>>247187Firearms can be consistently handled safely its not even a close comparison to climbing.
>>244037Plummet fag
>>244037one of the chats>he finally made itto heaven I guess. see you on the other side cowboy
>>248178he thinks all guns are sig p320s
How extreme is too extreme?
>>251262KOTS
/archery/ Thread #3 /archg/Let's keep this bad boy going!What's your style?What you shooting?What you hitting?Recs for bows?I bought a yumi, oh god, I'm a fucking moron, please help.What you wearing?
>>250121which is also why any discussion that doesn't have to do with olympic style usually doesn't get responded too as fast or shutdown
I want to buy my first bow and I have my eye on the Sanlida Archery Royal X8 Recurve. What do you think?
>>250898If you're buying a hunting recurve anyways why not get a takedown so you can switch limbs?
>>251126I don't like how the takedowns look. Too modern looking. It's my first bow, I want it to look like a traditional bow so I can larp as a medieval knight.
>>248262Though it would be a good betting sport.
I really want to take up a martial art, and have since I was a kid, but have an internal defibrillator. It's a preventative measure, and I lift weights/run with no issues. Any ideas what ones would be appropriate? Basically anything where I'm not about to get struck hard and repeatedly in the chest (I own a small shield for it that can fit under clothing very easily/allows for full range of movement, so occasional accidental striking of it/pressing on it is no issue).
>>249867No thats a lot of striking and often on the chest
>>250024Is it? I thought the chest was a non-scoring area?
I think it's just head and hands that score but I don't know, never done it before
>>250064That could work for me then. I have a little paceguard thing I can wear over my defrib, and it works pretty well. It'd almost certainly fit under the armor based on what I've seen.
>>249491You are broken, fundamentally. Don't do martial arts. You shouldn't even exist.
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>>240529Got tired of being a bitch and want to start going to classes again. How old are you all that still compete?>>250240>>250242How was it?
>>250540I'm >>250242. Lost on points, was a good scrap tho.
Poor Tawanchai, man...Noiri vs Liu 2 now?
>>250976wtf is Liu ackshually good?
how the fuck do you call that shit fighters do for show in the backstage room, when the presenters say "hey, remember this dude? yeaaah. He is still warming up. He will fight...eventually. HE IS THERE. INDEED. WAITING" and they show the dude throwing combinations at the camera??I'm trying to find some and either nobody made videos or I'm lacking the excact words to land results on advanced search
what martial art should i do after taekwondo? i'm currently abt to be a black belt in ITF taekwondo and i noticed that it kinda sucks due to the lack of handwork.ive been thinking of exploring either judo (since im pretty big) or eskrima (for grappling techniques and knifeplay). in general im looking for a style that is more hands-focused to go with the footwork of taekwondo
>>247891Kickboxing. Look, I might have a retarded vision of things here, but I see Taekwondo and Aikido as very similar martial arts. Laughed upon, misunderstood, with too many mcdojos and clowns. In short, ineffective. But what I also noticed when doing kickboxing is that taekwondo guys have a style that's powerful and unconventional. They have to adapt to some KB stuff, but some go into fights with a taekwondo style, almost like fencing with their leg, and it works. Kind of like this girl, but less obvious https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2ShTujCVJzcSo I think that Taekwondo is like a DLC for Kickboxing. I mentioned Aikido because I think it's like a DLC for Judo and BJJ, but that's a whole other can of worms
>>247891Will you become an amazing all around fighter who can threaten competent fighters? Probably notCan you kick a crackhead in the chest and make him rethink his decision? Probably yesNot everyone has to be super optimal MMA guy
>>247891Since you have kicks boxing or kick boxing. Escrima seems cool but hard to find a good gym.
>>247891Combat Sambo if you can find, you can make Combat TKD! https://youtube.com/shorts/B4LIsuuFR6w
boxing or any grappling martial art. boxing because taekwondo, no matter the type, has shitty punching technique and defense (check https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn98RdwPw48 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz-kU1X0Q2I, which are boxers beating taekwondoins from the ITF). grappling martial arts because you only know striking and MAYBE some takedowns (if your school actually teached you them), since you said you're big then any will do, though judo would be my main recommendation
those that aim to redirect the oponent's energy, like aikido, hapkido, daito ryu, taijutsu, etc. i'm kinda interested in them, especially taijutsu and hapkido, but dunno what i should expect exactly (in order to not fall into a mcdojo), so if anyone has experience in them please share, as well as your thoughts on them
>>249339At the schools I've visited kata seems to be mostly a niche old guy activity or done only for higher belt promotions.
>>246409Actually that's real and not from one of Seagal movies. It's hard to tell because he's always pure kino.
>>246396I don't think the idea of taijutsu is just redirection. It's more like fucking around until the oponent has no tension, then exploiting that.
>>246396If you want to learn the art go for it but don't expect to be able to use the techniques they way they teach you because they teach it wrong for fighting, do it for the love of the game.That said the core principle of redirecting energy is legit and legit overpowered if you do it right.The most important thing to learn is the twitch from daito ryu, i call it like that idk if it has an actual name but what they do is that they do a tiny push or pull to get you to resists in the opposite motion and then do the technique opposite to your reaction, for example they first bump you back so you resists forward and then pull you as you resists, its a tiny motion, almost imperceptible but 100% legit and you can use this concept in more legit martial arts like mma, wrestling and judo.Aikido does basically the same thing but in a circular motion, all you need from aikido is to instead of resisting head on, to simply move to the side and rotate to push or pull the opponent into you.Hapkido is literally just aikido but fast and explosive and teaches how to use the techniques against karate style striking which is slightly better than aikido.If you must I would recommend hapkido because they are legit athletic as fuck, you learn basically everything aikido and daito ryu do and then you can do something more legit focusing on the concepts of energy redirection, not the techniques they teach you, only the concept.
OP here, so in the end i ended up getting into BJJ and it's been a lot of fun. these three months have been great and i've learned a ton of stuff. i would've liked to get into hapkido but there are no dojangs nearby =(.>>250726sound cool, didn't realize that. wish the bujinkan wasn't a scam though :/.>>251051thanks for the explanation! i'd love to get into one of these martial arts someday, especially hapkido, hopefully i'll find some place that isn't like 2 hours from where i live •~•
>mma fighter trains endlessly to be an unstoppable force>I bring this to a fight and it’s over in less than 5 seconds
>>203732the first key to self-defense is to never relax. you've already failed at that if you've let a nigger within 10 feet of yourself without being ready for what it might do.
>>203687>The official world record for the fastest single-shot pistol draw (open style) belongs toErnie Hill, who achieved a time of 0.208 seconds in 1982. Good luck.
>>203686Being proud that you shot someone is American behavior as fuck.
>>250968>Has to pull the literal world record as if that meant anything for literally everybody else.Well I can play that game too, the average reaction time of a professional boxer is 150 to 200 millisecond, get fucked retard.
>paranoid schizophrenics fantasizing about "defending" themselves from roving bands of armed raiders>when they don't even go outsideextreme sports?
What are the primary differences between Japanese and Okinawan karate?
Basically Japan took karate and removed everything that made it effective and useful, but then it reverse populated back into Okinawa and they started copying all the gay shit the japanese were doing like spinny kicks and punching the airSo at this point no difference really
>>248358Well fuck. There's a Goju Ryu place nearby that's run by some students of Masaji Taira. Seemed like a good place.
>>248360Give it a try, you might like it
>>248361I may. I dunno if it's all stripped down shit.
>>248343Japanese karate got recontextualized to be a long range striking system due to taking competition ruleset from kendo where they obviously stand at very long range with the shinai and overextend as fast as possible to smack the other first, since a strike with even a shinai would be fatal they only need one point ippon, so when karate got to Japan, gichin funakoshi first simplified it to allow a wider group of students to grasp it more easily.Then when karate competitions started, they took inspiration from kendo making karate a long range striking system.Okinawan karate, even shotokan as gichin envisioned it, is a close range style with minimal footwork where the striking is based on timing where you catch the opponent coming in and most moves in kata are stand up grappling techniques.When it become long range in japan, even the kata moves where recontextualized to be defenses for strikes that make absolutely 0 sense because those moves are meant to be close range grappling moves.That said i would still dare to say Japanese karate is still better because they atleast do some sparring and is excellent to get into counter striking.Okinawan karate hardly does sparring but is great to understand the actual purpose of kata which is grappling techniques.
lets say your walking down the street and u bump into a guy. one things leads into another your granted a fair 1v1 no weapons only limbs. (kicks and whatnot allowed) but you cant back out. what kind of clothing would be best? would you regular street wear help you? i usally wear a nike tech fleece very breathable and moveable material and typical sneakers. only thing that might through me off is if im wearing some jeans that day. i think perfect fighting outfit would be a good sports tracksuit like the nike tech suit and some sort of sneaker that u can grip the floor in and kick with but thats not too limiting. on the foot
im naked honestly i know i can just karate chop his arm and snap his arm
>>235157bad advice converse are too light and too hard under the foot for what you want you might as well be wearing sandals because converse actually the stitching in the back hurts your feet + if you kick with your toe in shoes youre defective i shouldnt even tell you that anyway get some loafers and re sole them with hard cork and leather
>>248352you know like vans are loafers or boat loafers youre not restricted to dressing like a gay himosexual kazakh or albanian man to win in fights
>>225994I would wear the armour of thorns from dark souls.
>>225994>optimal fight wearRETVRN TO TRADITION
