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A place to discuss zorbing and zorbing accessories. A misunderstood but globular extreme sport. Limp Bizkit once wrote a song about this
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>>167995
cool
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My balls are fully polished for the summer
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I'm looking for a Zorb rep, i'm trying to get sponsored. I know somebody in here knows a Zorb rep!
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#zorbgoals
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Zorbing is so fun George Martin is refusing to write more books

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American Jiu Jitsu
these threads last months so cji3 edition now
daily deals: amazon
instructionals: just roll
smoothcomp: self explanatory
belt checker: fuck the ibjjf
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>>268969
The psychotic guy knew he was going to spike him on the neck and then sat right beside him to admire his handiwork
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>>268976
Both retards but if you're going to almost kill someone for sport you're a psycho.
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why do we see so little counteroffense in jiujitsu standing exchanges? i watched nick mataya vs jacob bornemann and this came to mind. bornemann constantly tried different takedowns, mataya pretty much just defended them, disengaged and back to neutral. why not throw in some counteroffense? he did not even try a counteroffensive move a single time. and this isnt the only case, i see this constantly in jiujitsu standing exchanges, one guy will attempt soem sort of takedown like an arm drag, a shot, slideby, whatever, the other will defend it by just disengaging, not even thinking about "staying in the scramble" and maybe scoring yourself. why?
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>>269084
not sure if you've noticed but the level of wrestling in bjj is pretty low https://youtu.be/KzZpDnjtxP4?t=130

really depends on the grappler and ruleset though; if you're in a competition and you know the other guy is better on the feet than you are, then there is no real reason to even attempt wrestling with them if you're in it to win it.
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got a huge ass cut during training on my forehead.
what are some fun excuses to say when people ask me what happened?

If you could only teach your daughter one martial art for self-defence, what would it be?
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Honestly just teach her to go for the balls and to bite his jugular out or gouge his eyes in. Fighting by the rules is for men.
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>>263901
Rape defense.
I win all the time
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>>267441
This, dressing not-immodestly, Noticing, Muay Tai + Greco-Roman.
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>>268503
>dressing not-immodestly, Noticing
underrated, I'll add, not being out after dark
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>>263901
Avoiding niggers

what martial art should i do after taekwondo? i'm currently abt to be a black belt in ITF taekwondo and i noticed that it kinda sucks due to the lack of handwork.

ive been thinking of exploring either judo (since im pretty big) or eskrima (for grappling techniques and knifeplay). in general im looking for a style that is more hands-focused to go with the footwork of taekwondo
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boxing or any grappling martial art. boxing because taekwondo, no matter the type, has shitty punching technique and defense (check https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn98RdwPw48 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz-kU1X0Q2I, which are boxers beating taekwondoins from the ITF). grappling martial arts because you only know striking and MAYBE some takedowns (if your school actually teached you them), since you said you're big then any will do, though judo would be my main recommendation
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Why not just boxing? TKD strikes suck, you want something hands focused..
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>>247891
My taekwondo instructor bundled it with judo while teaching combatives during the Korean War. Stateside, all of his taekwondo students were made to learn some judo and all his judo students learned some taekwondo. They seemed to go well together. I would prioritize judo over eskrima but do at least dabble in eskrima if you can because considerations change in an environment where weapons are a possibility and not every judo school is going to spend time on that.
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I actually rate taekwondo if you enjoy it just carry on

>>247908
This

Obviously if you want to be well rounded do boxing or a grappling style . More urgently a grappling style
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>>247891
I went to Muay Thai and Judo after TKD, but I was doing ITF Competition and Hapkido on world level. If you are WTF you need learn real footwork and urgency.

Does bjj teach you anything useful?
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>>220100
it teaches me everynight that i am a worthless piece of shit with no ability to learn any grappling whatsoever
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>>253964
I take it you have been mounted often
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>>233512
Another retard who knows fuck all about self defense.

>Muh eye gouging
Try gouging my eyes when I have you in top mount. I can do the same to you but way worse.

All you niggers believe BJJ is just gaurd pulling and going for armbars. You are actual retards that know nothing about fights.

>How to do takedowns
>How to defend against takedowns
>How to stay on your feet and not trip
>How to quickly recover from the ground to step up again
>How to escape from bad positions
>How to grapple in general


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>>234577
>how to safely and aggressively get off your back
that's more of a judo thing, BJJ guys train to stay on their back and drag and submit people down from there, often much slower and more methodically.
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>>264098
nta and i don't believe it to be bad or useless.

the problem is that so much of the training time in bjj is spent in guard it doesn't just take away from learning more practical skills but even creates bad habits for its practiticioners.

>How to do takedowns
>How to defend against takedowns
>How to stay on your feet and not trip
>How to quickly recover from the ground to step up again
bjj "teaches" this but unless they cross train 90%+ of bjj guys are very poor at it. to quote Danaher you can be a bjj world champion without knowing a single takedown, as the sport currently stands.

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I just want the assurance that I can defend myself should it come to that INB4 get a gun, I live in Canada so I can't. I'm thinking about joining an MMA gym to do all of it but I don't think I would be able to put in the requisite time for both grappling and striking training while still lifting and doing cardio. If it is possible please tell me because I plan on going to the fighting classes 3-4 times a week, also please give me info on how much to spar including hard sparring, I want to get decent as fast as possible
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Freddie Lee Modern Kung Fu™
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>>264617
Broooo is he still out there doing his thing? I was actually subscribed to his yt for a time until it slowly dawned on me that he is unhinged.
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>>259979
Good post.
I might qualify "kickboxing" with "preferably muay thai".
And if you've got some more time, I'd recommend a _little_ bit of wrestling, enough to cover the fundamentals even if you won't become good enough to match an actual/practicing wrestler.
A real wrestler is exceedingly unlikely to be attacking anyone without good reason. No need to devote time for that possibility.
But if you're on the ground with a wrong 'un, you'll be a whole lot better off if you have some muscle memory in grappling.
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>>251752
Learn to manage your temper and ego, deescalation and situational awareness. Be large, physically fit and intimidating to the common thug. Be able and willing to run away the moment the situation presents itself.

Get a pepper spray, maglite, collapsible baton(don't fucking blindly baseball swing it, wrist flick the tip at their hands and face like you're throwing a jab from a distance), then do some stand-up grappling and striking if you still have the juice.
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>>263967
turtle is the easiest ground position to stand up from, bottom guard is the hardest one. this is ten times true if striking is involved. your argument is invalid.

What are the primary differences between Japanese and Okinawan karate?
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>>251050
Kendo has more in common with Judo. Though you do make some interesting points. Really J-Karate long-range was a result of a J-Karate master being influenced by French military advisors doing Savate, a type of foot-fencing martial art with an emphasis on kicks.
O-Karate is mainly a mix of different Chinese Fujian kungfu styles mainly Incense Shop boxing and White Crane style.
>>265572
J-Karate being adopted as a university club, meant that katas and exercises had to make sense in a large group setting.
O-Karate dojos were smaller and had more 1-on-1 training.
See: Jesse Enkamp's extensive research and videos on this
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>>248343
Okinawan karate is a stand up grappling style with strikes at mid and close range.
The stances are tall like in muay thai and 90% of the moves in kata are grappling techniques.

Japanese karate has become a sport prioritizing long range strikes.
Gichin funakoshi brought shotokan to mainland japan and he modified Okinawan karate to be simpler in order to be able to teach it to a large number of people at once.
Then his 3rd son studied in tokyo university where he come in contact with kendo, inspired by it he made karate competition and adopted the long range approach of kendo making the stances longer and deeper to be able to strike from long range.
On one hand this made karate fighters become amazing at long range, counter punching and become fast as fuck but on the other it recontextualized karate into becoming exclusively long range strikes when it originally was meant to be in your face style and have grappling.
This completely ruined kata as no move in kata makes any sense as a long range strike because they were short range grappling techniques.

Then there's full contact karate which funny enough did inherit the tall stance of original karate and has the mythical toughness of all karate masters.
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>>266089
Yeah this is true, okinawan karate originally had no kicks above the belt but the Japanese influenced it and most traditional masters teach high kick techniques even though they aren't technically how you're supposed to do them in katas.
If you watch enkamps isshinryu video with uechi. Master uechi is my senseis sensei.
>>266223
I would say this is mostly true but if you look at original katas it's more like 50% grappling and the rest are close range strikes. Southern king fu comes from denser regions and is where karate cane from hence the close range
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>>265657
You DO NOT touch the boats.
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>>251636
Or you roundhouse kick their knee or calf and drop them in one shot.

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How would you create a martial art that had as it's main purpose to be most effective against UNTRAINED people? Are there any techniques that are useless in a trained context but disproportionally effective when used against untrained people?
Kind of like how in chess there are openings that are principally not sound and easily rebuked by people who know how to play chess, but allow you to easily checkmate a complete beginner (like the scholar's mate).
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>>268431
Oh, so you're a troll who's never been in a self-defense situation. My bad for taking you seriously; you got me good. 10/10
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>>251402
>Something that relies on reflex
Tony Blauer is that you?
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>>268467
Ive never been attacked because people can sense my world class half guard play from aura alone
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>>268505
Of course, your aura has been tempered by not showering. No one will approach you.
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>>251389
It's called army combatives and it's been a thing for over a century all across the world.

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Most martial arts technique is useless in MMA or no rules fighting. Most wrestling grips, judo, bjj techniques go out the window

It becomes 99% of the time the most simple boxing/kickboxing and the simplest takedowns and submissions
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I like boxing because I know how it feels to get punched and keep my distances, also to not completely freak out when shit hits the fan.
I walk around with a pepper spray and keep an eye on my surroundings (non-whites), it's the best I can do because I'm europoor, I never expected martial arts to be useful.
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>>256298
How are knees useful vs close opponents? They carry high risk of leg being grabbed and then the other guy just pushes you forward and you fall.
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>>251413
pick both actually
>either way you're fucked if you're against a weapon, don't do it
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>>250846
>blowjob jutsu
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>>251435
I TAKE SCREENSHOT. KEEP FOR MY COLLECTION.

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I'm a lightweight, (1.78m, 60kg), i've been going to judo for some months now, I'm liking it a lot, but, is it comparable/better to wrestling? Especially for a guy my size, I always thought wrestling would be useless as from what I know, it uses a lot of raw strength, while judo (though it still uses strength) is better suited for taking down heavier/stronger people. Is this right? Should I try doing some wrestling? I find judo very good but also sometimes limited by the sport
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>>242810
You strip down to your underwear in a real fight?
>>242810
Hips back and sprawling negates lot of wrestling at an intermediate level.
>>242810
Not that long lmao, it's just harder to do against a resisting opponent that is also training the same martial art. BJJ people get btfo'd by yellow belts in standup.
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>>243798
You do know where bjj gets most of it's techniques from you 0 iq. Most places do newaza aka ground game probably 20% of the class. Lots of competitive Judo people crosstrain just to get better at it with bjj. A judo black belt is equivalent to a blue belt and can't compete with bjj white belts.
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>>241734
I'm not good at judo by any means, training 2 years, and I can pretty convincingly ragdoll more athletic white belts. I admit part of it is they are scared, I might get smashed by someone who has 50 lbs on me and is going apeshit
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Suplexing ragatha
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>>235167
>In wrestling you would call it a headlock takedown
Actually head and arm throw

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Chris edition

>Banzuke:
http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/

>Fight Schedule & Results:
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/
>Some sumo links and how to watch live:
https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d

Previous thread: >>267830
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>>269096
>He should be judged entirely on his individual performance.
Read the full convo or fuck off.
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>>269036
Horse's zensho? 0-15 with 15 kinboshi dispensed
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>>269058
might as well ask, do you have the hoshoryu kotozakura recent one? ended up with hoshoryu judo throwing koto after lifting his leg to the fucking ceiling?
Either earlier this year or late last year
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>>269134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufO8ujFyar8
Nvm found it myself
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>>269135
What in the heckin' AI is this video?

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I think the most legendary ones were Tyson (he would need to get out of prison) and Karelin but it's rather obvious that Tyson would lose due to lack of grappling skills. Karelin would be more serious threat to the Gracies because he would toss them around easily but Idk if he would be able to actually end the fight.
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i think you have to give it to the boxers.
while grappling is awesome in its own right because it works
and as a fight science its awesome to level the playing field
like that. its really funny. to nullify someone like that.
but if the boxers hit you its over
if they could
and if youre knocked out youre dead
its like the rock shrimp. a tiny sucker but i do think
that velocity and precision outmatch physicality in the sense
of brute strength because we all have a tiny compiler segment
sitting about on our shoulders and knocking it around sends
an overload of signals causing the brain to shut down to just
probably sort things out as an extreme precaution.
its the best buts nothing is perfect, if they missed or didnt get
the hit in then they could be grappled and torqued.

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>>268850
Clueless
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Was ground and pound allowed? If so, Karelin, would just throw people on their stomach, sit on them, and punch head. Though I suspect Karelin's success is mostly due to nobody giving a crap about greco, and russians pumping him full of steroids when everyone else in his weight class was just a fatass.
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>>268868
im not talking about sustained competition
only a gauntlet with people picked out of time
for one tournament
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>>268979
Karelin couldn't even do 1 real MMA fight it had to be a staged fight

He's a wrestler, 1 leg kick and he's limping and crying

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Posted one minute after https://archived.moe/xs/thread/243888/#254800 to slide that thread to get the last word.
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>>254801
Sauce? Clip context?
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>>254801
hate this sorta shit. she's fighting him as a warrior, giving it her all, and he has the audacity to grab a titty in the middle of it. I know he's vastly better, but that's no way to treat a fellow warrior. I know it's just a cartoon but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth
>>264619
this on the other hand, is pure kino
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>>254801
what anime?
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>>266059
maybe if she dosnt want to be treated that way, she shouldnt be acting like a man getting into physical altercations in the first place? Dumbass.

How goes the training bros?

Im workshopping a crescent kick -> sideswing combo. Just learned how to do a roundhouse with my front foot and it is incredibly awkward. I also keep dropping my arms or raising them too high like a muay thai fighter when sparring.

Im thinking of trying resistance training in the water now that it is summertime. Any tips for that?

Remember you must never use it unless you know how to incapacitate without evidence.
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>>268504
Enjoy.
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>>268554
I suppose i should finally bite the bullet and read it. New Onimusha game about him comes out next month btw, i think it follows the anime plot. Never thought the series would come back but i replayed the ps2 games last year and they hold.up. Hyped about it.
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I just got my kyokushin yellow belt :)

Broke a wooden board, 1 minute handstand, I got bodied during kumites cause the two people that were there are like 20 to 30kgs heavier than me but that is fine
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>>268964
A handstand, what? Thats interesting. Was it leaning against a wall or free standing?

Did you have to do any kata?

What kumite did you have to do?

How thick was the board?
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>>268965

leaning against the wall, I gotta practice more because I cannot get up to the wall consistently and I need a little bit of help, but after that I can hold up in my own

yes, for white I had to learn taikyoku sono ichi and sono, now I am learning taikyoku san and kiba dachi kata

for kumite, overall strikes, throws and ne waza

I think it was like 1.5cm, more or less

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kook edition

>how do I learn to surf?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrwL5_57C6w [Embed] [Open]

>How do I pick the right board?
Use a volume calculator, and find the right board type for your local break or waves you want to ride
https://www.jsindustries.com/volume-calculator
https://www.boardcave.com/surfboard-volume-calculator

>how do I know if the waves are good?
go check surfline or magicseaweed for reports

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>>268785
There won't be any gnarly locals where you learn to surf. In any case, remember that the respect you expect, you are expected to equally give it back. Locals get their waves first. Be patient and extend the courtesy you want to receive. Don't paddle for all the waves. Remember that when it's crowded, it's crowded for all, not for just you.
The above deals with the attitude issue. Like my man said, etiquette, like all manners, is practical and not ceremonial; what I mean is that it is dependent on skill level and if they see you're not experienced they're going to snatch waves from you and you would too to someone less experienced than you. Attitude comes in when skill is equal; would you let a wave go to someone else?
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>>268811
>Where I am it's a handful of waves you wouldn't surf as a beginner anyway
I thought I made it clear obviously at the beginner stage what Im asking is not relevant, I am asking for future reference
>They are a bit of a necessary evil
retarded mentality if ur saying it should be ok to take waves from less experienced surfers
>Snaking is just natural now, everyone does it and will paddle inside you once they sniff out that you kinda suck
honestly I'll go on the wave anyway if I see someone snaking or just do it to them after it shouldn’t be consequence free
>never been anything a sorry didn't fix
let's hope that stays true for me
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>>268877
a bunch of conflicting messages here

>There won't be any gnarly locals where you learn to surf.
as previously stated, I am aware, I just want to know this stuff ahead of time and be prepared.
>respect you expect, you are expected to equally give it back
idk why theres this assumption that newcomers will always be disrespectful like yea if its your turn I don't have the paddle technique to quickly snake you anyway and all I ask is that you dont do it to me either.
>Locals get their waves first
this is what I am sort of asking about does it mean that if I'm sat there for 10 minutes and this guy shows up trying to get in front of me claiming to be a local am I supposed to just let that happen? cuz that is some bullshit lol
>Be patient and extend the courtesy you want to receive
again this doesn’t necessarily track from the previous statement. I will be patient, but I won't be a doormat.
>if they see you're not experienced they're going to snatch waves from you
newbies are the ones that need the waves the most so that they can actually improve. and taking that away from them is supposed to good manners? lol
>and you would too to someone less experienced than you
no? why would I do that

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>>268913
>why theres this assumption that newcomers will always be disrespectful

Because I have seen it plenty a time, and anybody who has been surfing for more than 2 years has seen it too, it isn't a blatant rudeness, newcomers don't have such a wide field of vision,owing to their being concentrated on locating and catching a wave, and they tend to treat every session like a lesson where every wave is a free-for-all.
>cuz that is some bullshit lol

Snaking, dropping in on someone and ratholing are annoying, but you have to understand that locals are surfing there year round. If you are a new surfer at a spot you live in and intend to eventually be one of those locals you will come to realise that they need to see you as a fellow surfer and not an antagonist, someone who will recognise them in the water the same way you want to be recognised by them down the line of time. You will also come to realise that come tourist season, when your spot is filled with kooks, if there isn't respect for the locals (RESPECT, not fear) you will be struggling to get waves always worrying if someone with a foamie is in front of you or dropping in at the same time from the shoulder.


>newbies are the ones that need the waves the most so that they can actually improve.


Surfing is not skateboarding in this regard, unfortunately; learning how to deal with crowds, internally and externally is part of surfing since day one.



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>>268913
I want to add something else too:

I am in no way a defender of bullying in the water. 9 times out of ten, heavily localised spots will be defended by people with hooligan mentality and I don't condone kicking people out of the spot just because you don't know them, ESPECIALLY if they are aware of their surroundings and are RESPECTFUL.

Also, I have been where you been and felt the same way. Which could very well mean that you have a bug for surfing and that is a good thing.

All I am saying is, surf to spots akin to your level, be respectful (not fearful, I agree with you that you shouldn't be a doormat!) in the water and spread the good vibes. And that inevitably means that you have to let some waves and even some sets go.


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