File: fairnbairn tiger claw chin jab.png (40 KB, 926x431)

40 KB PNG

>>250990
In WW2 the OSS and SOE and commandos were taught to do a nasty palm strike that ended with your fingers in someone's eyes. Fairbairn himself claimed to have killed several people with it over the course of his career in Shanghai and WW2.

>>252097
You should try something like Kudo or Shidokan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxkblXE8Ua0
As you can see here, trying to use Judo throws without striking is dangerous.

>>252263
ill probably just have to but the bullet and attend judo once a week when i hit shodan and just alternate most schools in my area do adult karate on the same days my school does judo

>>252097
I train both on different days.
I don't have a kudo, sambo or other styles like shidokan.
I just manage my schedule and currently do them 3 days a week each on alternating days.
I wish i had a kendo place to weebmaxx.

I found some fights of Minoki Ichihara one of the karate guy Royce submit in earlier ufc


https://youtu.be/duf02DkfyqQ?si=Xzj41Yhyu1iebmTC

https://youtu.be/UJ5zJVHro4o?si=31UzpKabW93IBt68

>>252040
Cover and crash is a pretty effective way to get someone down
It doesn't work against other grapplers but against non-grapplers it's the easiest method
Basically an automatic win button

Ever seen "Man of Tai Chi"?

>>252111
Every nerd is a big buff bodybuilder nowadays it means nothing. It's just more embarrassing when Mr 100kg bodybuilder gets destroyed by some 80kg guy

>>251945
Karate is fine, specially kyokushin, boxing is better, bjj is a meme that will get you killed.

>>251945
Bjj is good as complementary to wrestling or judo, otherwise you'll have bad takedowns and zero standup game. Karate is good if they do full contact. Boxing is good.

>>251595
There is no circumstance where you will ever need to kick someone in the head

>>251632
You can throw a roundhouse kick at targets other than head level too. The roundhouse kick wasn’t part of traditional Okinawan karate, and it doesn’t show up in any kata.

>>251634
The roundhouse is a weird mid range kick you invest in to wear an opponent down over time
That doesn't align with karate ideals of acting decisively and winning as quickly as possible
You have to totally change karate to accommodate that one technique which honestly doesn't bring anything to the party

Japanese/point karate is still better than Okinawan karate because while okinawan karate goes in depth into kata and actually teaches what the moves are supposed to be, it almost exclusively trains in kata which is useless for fighting, japanese karate, even if its point karate atleast has sparring to develop the timing and distance management necessary to be able to fight.
Modern okinawan karate does sparring sometimes but it looks the same as any other japanese karate style without the secret kata stuff so all the "useful" stuff the japanese removed is still useless because if you don't use it in sparring against someone trying to rearrange your face, you simply can't use it in a fight no matter how useful or effective the technique is supposed to be.

Even the most efficient jab in boxing is useless if you only ever do shadowboxing and never spar.
So all the gay shit the japanese added is still more useful because its regularly used in sparring.

>>248343
Japanese karate has less larping, I mean less bunkai or "practical" application of kata.

Japanese - kata is basically formalized as a dance, but they do it anyway

Okinawa - they still pretend kata is useful

>>240772
But youtubers and redditors told me that gun disarms don’t work in the real world!

I’ve read some old military manuals’ gun disarm sections and they’re very interesting. While the common consensus on the internet is that gun disarms are a foolish idea likely to result in the death of the disarmer (“You are not batman! You’re not John wick!) these military manuals written by people who have actually been shot at claim that trained persons can reliably disarm guns held within arm’s reach of them. Here’s some of the main points I’ve noticed:
>Even in the 1940s there were many records of police disarming criminals, criminals disarming police, injuring them, killing, etc. In the modern world many successful gun disarms have been caught on camera. Can all of this really be attributed to selection bias?
>because the disarmer chooses the time to disarm, the gunman has to react to them rather than the other way around. Basically you have a head start, which critically means you can move your body out of the way before the gunman can shoot.
>You don’t have to wrestle the gun out of their hands, knocking it out and/or knocking them out is just as good should you be faced with only one opponent. Disarming a gun might seem impossible, but does sucker-punching someone seem the same? Gun disarms can just be sucker punches with the extra step of getting off the line of fire.
>people say “no-one will ever hold a gun that close to you”. But criminals very often do, and one manual I’ve read claims this is because holding someone up puts them in a defensive mindset. It is often possible to get them to come close to you.
>Some disarms involve things specific to the model of gun, like semi-auto handgun X won’t fire if you hold the slide. While these do work, they are bad to teach beginners because you can only use them if held up with handgun X, and they’d have to learn new techniques for handgun Y and rifle Z

>>252533
Continued
>training needs to be as realistic as possible in order for the student to have the confidence to actually do it IRL. This means real but unloaded or deactivated weapons, and even blanks for the advanced student.

>you should be careful not to look at your opponents weapon as to not arouse suspicion. Lead them to believe you are scared to death.

>In WW2 they initially taught a trick where you’d hold your hands wide apart so the gunman could only look at one and be vulnerable to attack from the other, but they stopped teaching this because the trick became known to the axis.

>wait for your opponent to get distracted. This lowers their reaction time, giving you a greater window for success.

Generally, these manuals address a lot of common critiques I see of gun disarm methods. Most online tutorials only use a couple of these points of advice, and there’s several points I’ve never seen acknowledged at all. In the youtube tutorials you can find for gun disarms, I’ve never seen any of my favorite WW2 era techniques. (Well, except for archived training videos of that era.)

What do you think, anons? Are gun disarms possible in the real world? (Expert has 51%+ chance of success) are gun disarms practical in the real world? (1 month training gives most 66%+ chance success) It’s controversial but I am inclined to believe that gun disarms are practical.

>>215720
Ok faggot ass sherlock holmes wanna be. In real life there could be any number of reasons for a person to reach into their jacket. Have fun in prison after you merc someone just for scratching at a patch of dry skin, you fucking retard.

>>203698
>>241942
This makes me wonder if a knife is better for untrained people since they can defend themselves up close, and a gun is better for trained people because it can defend against people further away.

>>252533
>ns held within arm’s reach of them. Here’s some of the main points I’ve noticed:
>>Even in the 1940s there were many records of police disarming criminals, criminals disarming police, injuring
>>252535
Gun disarms do work, which is why so many martial arts teach it. The main risk is that the chance that the gun will go off is high, so you are not just risking your own life if it goes wrong but also the lives of those in your surroundings if it goes right. I'd say that if you are in a secluded area, go for it; if you're in a crowd, rethink your idea.

>>252538
Good luck! It's not impossible or anything, just realize that you'll probably need to plan ahead for opening classes for income. KB pay is not great.

>>252539
Thank you! And I heard that, I could also do boxing, but I love kickboxing much more. Did it a few years when I was 18, but stopped to focus on education etc., biggest mistake of my life lol because it got me nowhere except older. I also heard that connections are pretty important, but my old trainer is a friend of the father of my friend, and he knows all the guys in the country, even the ones who teach the police and stuff. But he is one greedy and slimy mfer, and from the events where I have been, it seems like 90% of promoters and gym trainers are like that, which is honestly one of the parts I look the least forward to, but that's life. Only thing I can do about it is start my own promotion one day and ensure its cool

>>252538
Just train. If you're ready to fight, you'll know. If you aren't cut out for it, you'll know.

wow

bump

>>90589
Longcat is looooooooong and you made it happen anon

>>90589
You did it. You actually did it.

>>90589
Proud of you anon
wherever you are

>>246365
Fucking this. He's "contributing" too much.

>>246323
>pretty underground as far as skaters go
He's literally in 6 THPS games. You almost couldn't be less underground in the skating realm.

>>246367
You want to try to disprove Vallely as a shit skater by posting this?? LMAO.

Though it does make me miss the old days where you could just fs 180 off a 1 1/2ft kicker and the crowd goes wild lmao.

>Most overrated Skateboarder of all time

But enough about Tony Hawk.

>>244717
I swore this guy's name was Mike Valley

>>252178
>state time where it (whaa-cha! in general) was mainstream in the west despite being oriental
>talk about how it was popular and sought after despite fights not being necesarilly televised constantly and people watching matches (not like there weren't any, though. It was an era issue, mainly)
>sprinkle examples of it being incorporated into culture. Also about it being deformed
>imply nobody gives a shit about it now in comparisson (implicit)
>(implicit) rise in popularity could happen to another martial art, or like it happened with WSM thanks to youtube and stuff. Like Bare knuckle is trying to pull. Specially if UFC can't rule out the boredom
Maybe nobody gives a shit about poor Billy and his nog fatigue, but where his trucking bills get spent. Maybe, tomorrow, will be lei tai tickets.

>>252230
The 70s 80s was a different time, no internet etc so karate Bruce lee stuff was seen as the new thing the New craze the new magic that wil btfo 100 guys

How internet rules out bullshit

>>252236
yeah
I remember looking at some no stupid rules mma stuff online and then during the dagestan UFC arc the views multiplied like 100x
Almost as if the internet provided an alternative to "15 minutes in heaven with some dysgenic"

>>252035
>Also nothing more westerner than karate am I right
Bad example, as the West doesn't give a shit about karate; any martial art with kata (dance moves meant to help train muscle memory) is generally only taught to children, plus any martial art that talks about chi/ki/qi is openly mocked.

>>252148
>bruce lee
>jet li
>jackie chan
>the shaolin myths
>Steven Seagal
I'm not sure you know what karate is, anon. BTW, during the 80s when Eastern martial arts became famous in the West, the one to grow the biggest was Judo. TKD and karate had to be westernized into kickboxing because the mysticism of it all was considered ridiculous.

>>217230
Because usa already had boxing for a specialist style, that's not to say boxing is better than Muay thai, i like it far more than boxing but the audience was already captured by boxing so no other style can replace it just like in thai land no other style actually matters because they have Muay thai.
Japan has a variety of styles but all are japanese and lets them pick their flavor of autism.

Mma was able to grow in usa because the concept of a completely alien style facing eachother like boxing vs wrestling was unique and an entire new genre of autism that tickled the tribalism aspect of human nature.
Humans like to create communities and like the feeling of belonging to one and other communities are enemies, this is human nature and its why team sports are so popular, it allows the viewers to feel as part of a community and fight others and prove the superiority of their own, mma allows this which no other specialist style allows.
Mma fans that hate grappling hate it not because grappling itself is bad but because the hyperspecialization goes against the very nature of mma, nobody complains about grappling in mma when they are beating the shit out of eachother then scramble and try to rip eachother arms off or flatten their face on the ground, people complain when there's 20 minutes of ground control and minimal strikes or even submission attempts.
It would be like if in muay thai someone goes for the clinch but never does anything with it, no knees, elbows or sweeps or if they spend most of the match snap kicking the leg while running away avoiding everything to win on points because the other guy didn't land anything.

Muay thai can't be successful outside thailand because everyone else already have their sports established and it doesn't offer anything than the others don't.
That said even in thailand its being slowly assimilated by kickboxing and mma.

They can never take Earth Rocking away from you.

I'm a Girth Cocker.

File: images-2.jpg (41 KB, 450x444)

41 KB JPG

earth status rocked

Earth Rocker bros keep holdin' it down.

Happy new year earthrockers

File: 1737001831651109.png (286 KB, 980x985)

286 KB PNG

I had a good surf this past weekend my first in a while

Bought my first real hard-top board today, 9ft longboard. Hopefully will not look like such a kook by being on a foamie anymore. Feels good man

>>250667
>It was a quite average reef break

oh is that all.

>>251042
Yeah, why?

>>251419
because I would like to have one of those around but I don't

>>252144
I think they talk the most shit out of anyone relative to how much they never fight

>>252186
They also slap and it was a form developed by women, so the theory checks out.

TKD is fairly gay however. You ever watch it at the olympics? Just tiny thin gooks flaling pant legs at each other for contact with 0 power. Its like the flag football of martial arts.

>>252210
I can find things to respect about shit martial arts, some redeeming quality that makes them worthwhile

For TKD I am impressed by the flexibility and balance they cultivate. Even if it's not good for fighting the up side of physical fitness is always a good quality
I don't think I have anything nice to say about WC

>>252130
Matt Samurais here, just give in, and sleep

>>252213
The first ip man was alright.

>>252235
I dont know what that means, but sleeping is nice.

File: IMG_0576.png (2.27 MB, 2560x1876)

2.27 MB PNG

>>251271
>>252253
Like this?

>>251271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsBF6YDwhUU
it was called Holmgang

>>252267
Of course it's the Germans that do such things. If the Germans do it than the Hungarians must be doing it also as they copy everything from the Germans.

>>252290
jew wish

File: 1767301366564706.png (175 KB, 604x657)

175 KB PNG

>>252261

I've never been but I ordered some paddles. Will my $25 Walmart paddles work ok?

>>243237
Dude you should try this thread over on /sp

Though, pickleball is extreme af..
I saw some guys with face tattoos playing pickleball and they were dri king redball and getting real rowdy.

>>243237
I pickle my balls in your mouth, retard.

there are pickleball courts near my local skatepark and its all balding old men and hot zoomer chicks

>>243237
>at work
>playing for a few hours
You don't have a job, you're in daycare.

>>251994
Who?

>>251994
He is 100% right because he has been sat in his bibeogayme throne for 15 years allowing his tendons and spine to collapse on themselves and he probably can't do 1 push up or pull up

For everyone who can do a few pull ups and isn't a pro videogame streamer parasite then it's okay have fun

>>252015
some retard

>>251994
Yeah I agree, I think skateboarding is a little less forgiving than say snowboarding or wakeskating or whatever given that you're falling on concrete but you can still do it...you just gotta work your way up to the cool stuff. That being said I broke my ankle skating at 30, had to get plates and screws put in, and haven't really got back into it since but it's more of a mental thing than anything else for me

>>250572
Boxing has actually regressed due to knowledge not being handed down to the next generation.
>>251700
This is also true. Most boxing coaches are absolute mongoloids.

>>250616
>looks up Malpache Quarez
>raccoons
>looks up Malpache Juarez
manuel "Mapache" Carrera: A professional boxer from Mexico City with a specific Tapology profile, though with a limited record (0-3-0).
Juarez (aka "Mapache"): A boxer involved in a highly-viewed, wild knockout fight in 2025, described as a crazy round, gaining online traction under the "Mapache" moniker.
"El Mapache" (Streetbeefs): A participant in exhibition fights on the popular Streetbeefs YouTube channel, known for underground boxing.

You lying sub-casual fucktard. Get off this board.

File: ethreher5.png (179 KB, 421x526)

179 KB PNG

>>251830
I don't know. I think this regression we see isn't that coaches aren't passing down knowledge but the general pool of quality coaches getting diluted, and here's my theory why: Too many father trainers. Even though its not a new concept, we have more father-trainers then ever before and it's screwing things up. A lot of father-trainers simply aren't knowledgeable and are learning on the job and it shows when they take another boxer into their fold and fuck them over with bad coaching. The only father-trainer I think is worth a damn is Old Man Chenko who was the Ukraine national amateur coach. Kenny Porter might have chops too but I can't find them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqpghcpv8Mk

>>251088
Wasn't he 30 when he started losing? it was probably just age, he was shorter and could only contend in that division due to speed