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>>259413>neurological science supports thiskill yourself faggot. i support that
Started Judo about a month ago and I've been really struggling desu, more so than I feel I should. I'm not out of shape either, I have some of the best cardio in the whole class. It's just that the level of athleticism required for judo is much higher than I anticipated, and I feel I seriously lack the coordination and flexibility to properly execute many of the throws (I've yet to get one legitimately clean throw yet desu). Would BJJ be better for a guy like me? I've only done ne waza like twice but the times I have done it I felt it came much more naturally to me than the other aspects of judo.
>>261550You're probably very stiff, unbalanced and exerting mad amounts of energy like every white belt. You'll notice higher belts are relaxed until the moment they have to throw and then they explode.
>>261550Im a skinny fuck and a yellow belt and have landed some throws. Being skinny doesnt help at all but my technique is getting better. This shit takes time man but you'll eventually get the hang of it. Good luck landing osoto gari tho. That throw is impossible to land if youre a newbie cause its so easy to counter
>>261627It's easy to counter because it doesn't work without kizushiBut all throws don't work without kizushi
>>261550Bruh you are one month in? I do both judo and bjj and bjj is far easier on the body and in general. It's really an old mans martial art desu.
>>261550If you can't handle a month of judo then you won't be able to handle a month of BJJ, or any combat sport, or probably any sport in general. You're probably not executing any throws clean because you're training twice a week, probably learning breakfalls and multiple throws at the same time, and going against people with more experience than you.If you want to feel good, maybe bring a friend (you do have friends, don't you?) so that you're not the worst person in the class any more, and see how you go against them.
why is everyone at the park skating such tiny decks (under 8)? are they trying to make me feel like a fat fuck? 8.5 is standard, right?
>>248074Yea its standard they are just newfags...
Flip tricks
>>248074Why aren't you?
They wanna flip the board easier…. but if you have big feet I wouldn’t recommend riding a 7.75 or belowRide an 8.25 or 8.5 if you have caveman big feetIt’ll be easier for you to balance
Hellwolves EditionOld Thread: >>236300Keep strictly real-steel related topics in >>>/k/, gun and gear porn's cool as long as you don't spam.If you have a useful guide or want to rework one for the OP, post it and someone will add it to the next one.>Newbie pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/9EdSzRMj>Recently updated /asg/ retailer guidehttps://pastebin.com/VHtFZX8M>Legal comprehensive, crosscheck with your local laws to be on the safe sideComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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I'm a lightweight, (1.78m, 60kg), i've been going to judo for some months now, I'm liking it a lot, but, is it comparable/better to wrestling? Especially for a guy my size, I always thought wrestling would be useless as from what I know, it uses a lot of raw strength, while judo (though it still uses strength) is better suited for taking down heavier/stronger people. Is this right? Should I try doing some wrestling? I find judo very good but also sometimes limited by the sport
>>257870>The only common opinion I tend to see is that it's pretty funSounds to me like that is the most important factor in being consistent in any martial art. I tried Judo myself and thought it was fun as shit, but I didn't stick with it because of the fear of getting injured by a partner I couldn't trust. I should get back in there and try again.
>>236726This guy is correct. All grappling relies on knowledge of fundamental human biomechanics and the laws of physics. The only major difference among the grappling styles are the uniform and the rules etc, but there are more similarities than differences. If you are a good grappler, you will be decent in any other grappling style, and only a short familiarization period away from being good again. Training the style you like the most, and dabbling in other styles whenever you get a chance is the best choice.
>>242810I eagerly await the day when you ragequit mma after a few classes, as you did judo and freestyle, and then endlessly spam the board about how mma doesn't work.
>>242810You strip down to your underwear in a real fight? >>242810Hips back and sprawling negates lot of wrestling at an intermediate level.>>242810Not that long lmao, it's just harder to do against a resisting opponent that is also training the same martial art. BJJ people get btfo'd by yellow belts in standup.
>>243798You do know where bjj gets most of it's techniques from you 0 iq. Most places do newaza aka ground game probably 20% of the class. Lots of competitive Judo people crosstrain just to get better at it with bjj. A judo black belt is equivalent to a blue belt and can't compete with bjj white belts.
For anyone who has done a martial artIs it normal to have mixed emotions about it?None of the stuff I've tried (Boxing, Judo, Wrestling, BJJ)Has made me instantly think "omg I love this. This is it. I'm doing this for life"It's usually a combination of "well that was really difficult and tiring, is this worth it, this is going to be difficult but I'll be a better person mentally and physically, I guess.. just stick with it?"Or were you instantly hooked
The only part I really enjoy is me grasping a certain concept and executing it, seeing my overall progress, however the training itself is just boring repetition most of the time, and that's all there's to it for me.
>>244716I do for health reasons. For now. Maybe it will be more fun as I get better. Still a NOGI newb. Hardest part is of course just getting ot out of the door. When you get there, change. 1,5 hour and forget. Come home tired as shit knowing it's good for the body and mind.
>>253846What do you mean? I just don't think they happen that often. I didn't go out of my way to avoid it. I got ringworm a couple times and that was the worst of it. Sometimes things ache and hurt. But I just stretch and train. I didn't even ever choose my partners wisely, just whoever wanted to rumble in any school in any country. I don't think there's very many people throwing kani basami or really in a rush to yank your arm
>>244716Try Capoeira
>>253846Learn to break-fall and you kinda don't?
Tonight is the season opener and Jett is already out. Who is going to win A1, the championship?
>>261874>outdoors.start a outdoors mx thread so its at the top.Today Barcia was stoked he beat a bunch of retired guys at glen helen.
How about this pic for a new thread for the start of the outdoor nationals?
>>261901looks good to me
>>261903the cam is on Ken Roczen but its at glen helen. The first round is Pala/Fox but I could not find a good one from that track
>>261937
Do you guys make notes and diagrams for your martial arts and have reference books?I have been thinking about getting the Kodokan book since I won't be doing judo for the foreseeable future and also making notes for my karate and judo.
Nah It's a rookie mistake to try and turn a physical activity into an academic one This in the literature is exactly what causes people to choke, They spend too much time thinking about what to do and not enough time just doing it reflexively You can't summon skill through a cognitive process, you have to just move and let your nervous system go on autopilotYou can't think faster than your senses
>>261823Just watch footage. You can find videos on any particular fight/technique/martial art, helps a lot with development and applying skills. Plus I feel like visuals work much better then a book or something.
>>261831>>261872Fair points. Though do you ever keep diagrams for reference or have a playlist of videos? I tend to save videos and rewatch ones that I feel I need more practice on and mimic what I see. For diagrams I pretty much just use for kata
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>>244568And now 15 years later, the world has moved on.
>>261817lol no I learned more non-fighting stuff in my first 1.5 hours of judo than after months of aikido. >>261897If I wasn't a retarded grug I'd play team sports I bet it's a great way to get social/team skills. I tried rugby for a few workouts but everyone seemed to be trying way too hard, MA/powerlifting dudes are usually the most chill ones.
Also what's interesting is unless you're wrestling, martial arts tend to hold back in sparring. Football or rugby guys are taught to go hard during practice, I wouldn't be surprised that a linebacker would tackle a MT guy 9/10 times in sparring. A boxer would just keep running away and a judoka would maybe lose once or twice due to sheer aggression from linebacker, then adjust. But out ON TEH STREETZ if you're an amateur linebacker you're probably gonna tackle people no problem.
>>261921 People always say that's the advantage in grappling because you can train at near 100% safely But I've been around and yes you have some striking base people that get punchy from overdoing it But literally every grappler I know is completely fucking broken The body takes damage all the same
>>261931You have to choose if you want to sacrifice your brain or your body.
Ladies look amazing when they grapple
Is it weird if I masturbate exclusively to women wrestling and have 6 tb of it saved
>>261918Don't think so. Heres something from a Slate article, "That combat sports readily lend themselves to eroticization is hardly news. The Olympics of Greek antiquity prominently featured wrestling, boxing and pankration (a sort of latter day MMA). In a seeming nod to the audience’s sexual voyeurism, clothing was eventually done away with and experts have argued that the events were 'all about watching naked men.' "Wrestling as a sport has always had a sexual component to it, and wrestling rituals and mating rituals have their overlaps (showing the physically fitness/attractiveness of a potential partner)
Why are BJJ channels such obnoxious faggots?
>>250881Even in a non ideal scenario it does alot for a scuffle if you have confidence in the situationWatch enough body cam footage and it's wild how unfamiliarity with the risks leads to unnecessary escalation and introduction of unnecessary risks
>>250875it is reasonable to assume someones friend may jump in and start kicking you in the head if your rolling around on the floor trying to get some dudes arm in a hold
which martial art (that you can realistically go and find a training center for) is actually the best for winning unarmed fights? or at least the best at improving your odds in a real life fight (because it often does come down to luck as much as skill, and who throws the first punch)
>>261807They don’t hand out medals for street fighting and most of the time, despite what shows up in world star highlight videos, what actually happens is two guys swing for about 5-15 seconds, get broken up and then both sides go home saying they totally kicked that guys ass.Your most important goals are going to be defending against punches to the head avoiding getting tackled as those are what’s most likely going to be the average gorilla retards attempt at trying to hurt you. So a single martial art that trains striking and some amount of stand up grappling is going to be “best”. Something like Sambo, Sanda, or Muay Thai. All that said, from a practical perspective, as long as your training an actual combat sport and not ninja larp, time spent in the gym is more important than the specific martial art you do. For that reason just try whatever’s in your area and then stick with what you actually enjoy practicing.
>>250881>his friend slips it in from behind>Th-this is my fetish
chess boxing, sure
>>261866extreme speed chess would be entertaining, maybe have magnetic pieces or not because that would be more extreme if the piece could potentially fly around. maybe skydiving chess or roaring rapids chess, zero-g chess wouldnt be very extreme unless it was done in a zero-g simulator plane because the gravity fluctuates. maybe between moving pieces or specific maneuvers you could throw a punch at your opponent or something
Is it time to accept that Caucasus wrestlers have debunked striking forever?
>be known for wrestlefucking your opponents>wrestlefuck your way to the title>get paired up with someone known for standing and jabbing to a decision>give up wrestlefucking two rounds in to stand and jab with him>lose by decision
>>261761He did zero damage, couldn't finish him or pin him and got tired as fuck.
>>261751Explain a takedown in the middle of the cage then.And it is absolutely possible to defend takedowns against the cage. It happens all of the time. >>261761Sean's takedown defense is too good. Gassed Khamzat out.
>>261795too bad sean couldnt defend himself from his dad lol. raped ass bitch
>>261761isn't this guy a grappling god, why did he throw hands with him?
Trying to get into boxing as a manlet(5'7)Is it over for me?
>>259026Not at all Mic Tyson was 5'2
>>2590265'6~5'10, biomechanically speaking, is the best height for boxing
You're never gonna compete anyway, so who cares.
i hate when people just post retarded shit for no reasongenuinely why did you make this thread
please tell me im not the only one who swears his name has always been Mike Valley
>>177327It has
>>90229Since the 90's I've literally never heard him called anything but Mike Valley. I can say that much.
>>257903Bump
Funny captchas
>>258842>Funny captchasIf there wasn't a Mike V captcha then they fucked up 2 bh
