>>242468
Skaters unironically destroyed the social concept of "older automatically the boss of younger" way more than rock n roll fags.
>with a skateboard I can talk shit to whoever I want
>there's probably people I can talk shit to around here
I was just a poser that skated for travel, but we would skate for hours and be all tired and see some guy guy walking or something and just yell "hey fuck you!" and people would typically get mad and maybe chase and that would give us the energy we needed to continue. Your friends don't want to leave somewhere? Throw a bottle or some shit at a moving truck driving by and force everybody to run. It was all stupid as fuck and made nobody better, but it kept us out of real trouble for the most part. It's the retards that fell on property like this skating and sued that messed it up for everybody btw.

>>244183
No, it was retarded faggots like you who ruined it for everyone who just wanted to skate.

>>242468
Skill issue.

>>242478
cause bushes and flowers cost money to maintain whereas you can just pour concrete and leave for 50 years.

Nobody tell OP that skatestoppers were invented by skateboarders.

>>242503
The grift is real

I think it's just head and hands that score but I don't know, never done it before

>>250064
That could work for me then. I have a little paceguard thing I can wear over my defrib, and it works pretty well. It'd almost certainly fit under the armor based on what I've seen.

>>249491
You are broken, fundamentally. Don't do martial arts. You shouldn't even exist.

>>249491
Brugada syndrome?

>>254833
Nah, a form of cardiomyopathy.

>>244212
>There are counters to every throw. The trick is to use them in a context where they're not going to be countered
I don't mean in the sense of a judo counter, because I understand that in sports judo the scoring system is somewhat artificial in the way it scores knockdowns, I mean that even if you end up at the bottom of a pin the choke is backwards for applying pressure to the neck and you're in a position to apply a reverse choke right?

I'm sure getting slammed into concrete rather than a mat would hurt more (and if you didn't know any break falls then you're probably going to get badly injured) but I feel like even if the throw is successful it's not decisive

>>244223
>you're in a position to apply a reverse choke right?
Not really, you'd have to break the pin before being in a position to try a choke. Your only option on the mat is to fight into position to roll out of it (you do kind of wrap around your opponent for some of these techniques, perhaps that what you meant) and your only extra options off the mat are to pull a weapon or try to fish for an eye gouge (however, the person applying the pin is in a better position to pull a weapon, employ an eye gouge, or switch to a more serious attack).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_TS0YHdxcQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEmKk3m8nwE

I've used this pin to subdue people off the mat who needed a moment to calm down and rethink their life choices after trying to hit me. I've used it when sparring with weapons to isolate my opponent's weapon hand, strip the weapon, and resume an armed attack against an unarmed opponent. It's very effective and it gives you the ability to scale force from lightly controlling someone to absolutely crushing the air out of their lungs (if they're not a grappler used to that kind of pressure, which most people aren't). It's my favorite pin in judo, my favorite pin off the mat, and one of my favorite pins in wrestling (stacking someone up on his neck with a double chicken wing is a little more entertaining).

>>244232
Fair enough, I'll defer to your experience then

>>234953
Judo

>>243389
Note to self: in a street fight don't let people keep their hands on you.

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Leonidas will make the weight ? If he weights less than Brian then he'll probably won't win if I'd bet on it.

It's a 50/50 - Leonidas is a smaller and weaker Brian, (both amateurs with a weightlifting background) but had one match more experience than his counterpart.

I personally am excited for Hutchings vs Petrenko
Will Todd win another title in a heavier weight class?

Would be excited for Devon pounding of that Slavic coward LOLetin but Laratt doesn't train on the party hand so he'll just make that match a preliminary for the right hand - where the real READY-BANG will begin.

I wish all russians/russo-sphere athletes we're banned from the sport. It would reforge it into something we all would enjoy.
Are there any forums for armwrestling discussion ??? Rebbit of course is out of the question.

>>214961
i was thinking exactly of a gogoplata, pretty hard to pull off considering the punches youre exposed to

>>242835
Fastest tap in the west.

>>214171
MMA is GAY

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>>214171
Maybe I don't know enough about sports fighting but it looks like it appears in the police and self-defense manual Scientific Self-defense by William E Fairbairn
>You and your opponents have hold of each other's clothing, as in Fig. 209, and you are thrown by the "Hip Throw" (Fig. 210).
>1. Do not release your hold, and whilst falling, pull downwards with your right hand and push with your left, simultaneously twisting your body toward your right-hand side; this will pull your opponent right over you and on to his back, as in Fig. 211.
>2. Retaining your hold, pull yourself into the position shown in Fig. 212.

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>>254808
>>214171
>3. Release the hold with your right hand and seize the right lapel of his coat, the back of your hand inside the coat, the thumb outside, hand as near his neck as possible, at the same time passing your left hand under your right forearm and seize the left lapel of his coat as in Fig. 213.
>4. Keeping a firm grip with both hands, apply pressure by forcing the little finger side of your right forearm under his chin and into his neck, squeezing his ribs with your thighs and forcing downwards with your body as in Fig. 214.
>Note - Should your opponent sink his chin into his chest in an attempt to prevent you from forcing your forearm into his neck, force your wrist bone on to the point of his chin and work it to and fro. This is very painful and will quickly make him raise his chin.
>The alternative method is to fall sideways on to your back pulling your opponent over on top of you and between your legs; you will then be in the position shown in Fig.215. Lock your legs around his waist and apply pressure by pulling his neck towards you and forcing your forearm into his chin or neck, then shoot out your legs and squeeze his ribs (Fig. 216)

>>226966
Unironically sumo.

>>227258
>A competent coach would probably strongly discourage that
There isnt a competent coach that doesnt encourage hands on experience. As long as youre being safe every martial art should allow sparring on the first lesson.

BJJ let's you spar on day 1.

>>226966
If you don't seem to squirrely, most places will let you or encourage you to spar and roll asap, as long as u are wearing whatever gear they require (groin cup, mouthguard, shin guards, wraps, 16 oz gloves, etc)

>>226966
Just get a gun

>>242819
How the hell is this thread still alive?

>>243035
>be op pic
>be black
>mods won't touch you
Bit racis innit?

>>242819
granny jumpin not double ditchin like ya shoulda been

>>242819
So ugly.

>>238506
Kek. This guy's right, op.

>>241440
Why are you responding earnestly to this shitposter? Just go with the flow and shitpost back.

>>243614
baited

>>243618
Bait baited

>>235295
Just buy a gun.

>>255292
Why would i let you grab me ever? I learned greco roman, i weigh a buck fifty. Ill never be grabbed i will kick the shit out of you as soon as i see your intent. Youll get points while i gouge your eyes.

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say anons, i used to do kyokushin at my dojo but will no longer be able to due to schedule conflicts with work.

i found this isshin-ryu dojo and i am thinking of practicing this style since there no other places in my city that don't require me to commute for a hour and a half.

i liked kyokushin because of the combat and sparring, if you practice a martial art its for the best you get your ass, can i expect the same from isshin-ryu style?

it seems they also teach savate which looks very gay but it is what it is

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>>254963
>There's no reason to cover the face like that
Of course there is kid, the classic counter to mawashi geri is a cross. Stop talking shit when you don't know shit kid.

>>255464
How about you I don't know, use the arm on the same side you're defending instead of derping out and crossing an arm over while the other one just hangs there doing nothing and leaving your flank open

See, spend all this time practicing in a format where you can get punched in the head and you just never learn how to properly defend it

>>255343
Tell us more about this "Siam Island Boxing". I can't seem to find any info about it.
>what about "pre-karate" Okinawan Te, Kobudo, and other "primitive" forms? are they worth learning, or just historical curiosites?
Are there even any documents about pre-Tode "Te" or Kobudo?

>>251634
The roundhouse is a weird mid range kick you invest in to wear an opponent down over time
That doesn't align with karate ideals of acting decisively and winning as quickly as possible
You have to totally change karate to accommodate that one technique which honestly doesn't bring anything to the party

Japanese/point karate is still better than Okinawan karate because while okinawan karate goes in depth into kata and actually teaches what the moves are supposed to be, it almost exclusively trains in kata which is useless for fighting, japanese karate, even if its point karate atleast has sparring to develop the timing and distance management necessary to be able to fight.
Modern okinawan karate does sparring sometimes but it looks the same as any other japanese karate style without the secret kata stuff so all the "useful" stuff the japanese removed is still useless because if you don't use it in sparring against someone trying to rearrange your face, you simply can't use it in a fight no matter how useful or effective the technique is supposed to be.

Even the most efficient jab in boxing is useless if you only ever do shadowboxing and never spar.
So all the gay shit the japanese added is still more useful because its regularly used in sparring.

>>248343
Japanese karate has less larping, I mean less bunkai or "practical" application of kata.

Japanese - kata is basically formalized as a dance, but they do it anyway

Okinawa - they still pretend kata is useful

>>251050
also kendo used to have grappling, leg sweeps, take-downs..it was more like HEMA I guess? in pre-WW2 era

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what about "pre-karate" Okinawan Te, Kobudo, and other "primitive" forms? are they worth learning, or just historical curiosites?
>pic is Siam Island boxing, supposedly direct ancestor of Te

>>211019
2 year post
>>247840
3 year post

will we make it to 4 years? i dunno but my bump will help for now.

Happy New Year 2026 anons
Damn this thread just won't die. Perhaps this thread is what is best in life

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>>237507

>>252811
Based archiver

Oh ffs STOP BUMPING THIS THREAD i get remembered about my failings every time I open /xs/

In the video he was flying at full speed trim out, altitude is your friend when flying, if something goes wrong low you won't have time for any input apart from shitting yourself., so looks like his right side had a small tuck, but at full bar the wing wouldn't recover, you can get some really good en-a wings and low en-b wings (they will recover themselves if you just go hands up and power off) but this guy was fill throttle.

>>235271
>>235287
Yeah playing with your phone that low is just stupid, IF he had his hands on the controls he MAY have saved it.

get an eskate

>>235271
A pylon of what?

Took 2-week ppg class in August in Connecticut. Just got back from flying at Salton Sea, California. I have about 35 flights. Paramotoring is awesome. Model year Vitorazzi Moster 185 engine is reliable, and it's not a lawnmower engine. It was based off a European moped engine. You can cut the engine at altitude if you want silent gliding.

>>254132
Find a good MMA gym. You'll learn both stand up and grappling, which is what you need in the world today. You want to be able to fight on your feet and avoid having to grapple as much as possible. Grappling is nice, but if you're on the ground in a bar or on the street, somebody is going to try and soccer kick your head off while you're trying to land that rear naked on you opponent.

No MMA gym? Then find a good boxing gym.

>>254132
Boxing is the perfect self-defense art
Effective, affordable, low skill floor, and you can find a boxing gym virtually everywhere
Kickboxing and Muay Thai are more effective, but sacrifice the simplicity and availability
Grappling in general - wrestling, bjj, judo, sambo - is extremely effective, but the skill floor is very high, you're looking at a significant time (and monetary, in some cases) investment before you can fight effectively

>>254627
You can teach someone body lock takedown into rear naked choke or high crotch into slam in a few minutes

>>254629
But that's not what being an effective grappler is - because you know one move that's applicable in one specific situation, and the moment your opponent does anything that even slightly deviates from it, you're screwed
It's like only knowing how to throw a left hook and calling yourself a boxer

There's no one size fits all answer. If you choose grappling you won't learn how to punch. If you choose striking you won't know how to grapple. So do MMA or just find a gym with multiple martial arts

I'm a figure skater, I didn't compete because I had little support financially but I'm skilled. I've returned to training recently, looking to compete just to bring some new moves and contribute something because skating to win isn't for me.

I'm willing to give coaching tips if I remember to come back here, I've coached as well. I know the specific movements and muscles needed, training off ice, and common mistakes. You'd need to post a reference however. But for general advice, many people don't realize the foot muscles needed to skate properly and you either develop them by skating skills or off ice drills. Without it you will struggle.

>>244701
Simply become a pairs or ice dancer, girls will fight to get a partner on ice, and you'll likely attract at least one to date

>>252668
I’m a year in now, but yeah my insole constantly murder me. Know any good off ice exercises for that? Like 15-30 minutes into heavy edge drills and I’m basically dead.

I was doing physical therapy for a related issue, and some of the balance drills I did for them have helped. But I’d like some targeted exercises and it doesn’t seem to be a common thing worked on.

>>253936
A lot of squats focused on knee over ankle, meaning the knee goes past the ankle. Use the balance boards that gyms usually have. Also exercises that ballet dancers do to strengthen the feet will help. You don't need to develop pointe. Use therabands and ballet barre exercises, easy enough with a chair. Aim to do everything unassisted eventually, skating requires balance in the end. Kseniya and Oleg have an amazing channel on edges and turns. Do what they do on ice and even off ice, putting pressure on the sides of your feet like they show with the red and blue lines. If you know what I mean by pumps on the circle, do those too. If not, power pulls, but only one edge and remain on a circle, putting pressure and release around the circle, not having to worry about switching edges or traveling down the rink.

https://www.inspireusafoundation.org/single-leg-squat-variations/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YVCytrJJOio&pp=ugUHEgVlbi1VUw%3D%3D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U-nhYGYWO2Q

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=We0uEeMIsA4

https://m.youtube.com/kseniyaOleg

>>254579
In today's irony on K and O's channel they have a video right there explaining circle pumps, they call them double knee bends.