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resurrecting the thread for muay thai. ask questions and talk about muay thai and muay thai related stuff

>Understanding traditional scoring
https://khunkaogym.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/a-laymans-guide-to-scoring-a-muay-thai-fight/
https://youtu.be/7J4gzeJO-4Q

>Live shows
>Siam Fight News
https://www.fb.com/SiamFightNews/
>Lumpinee https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYMw_GleQjXnKMjhCY58V4w
>MAX https://www.youtube.com/user/maxmuaythaichannel
>Ch8
https://www.youtube.com/c/Muaych8
>PETCHYINDEE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsN96OvHRSZWiecrdPvy5Wg
>ONE Championship https://www.youtube.com/c/ONEChampionship

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>place opens up a location near me
>check it out
>people lining up and bowing and doing calisthenics
yup that's gonna be a pass for me. So basically it's karate class for grownups?

let me give it to you straight. If I'm paying you for lessons I'm paying for instruction, I want the entire hour to be instructive. I'm not paying someone to have me do sit ups and jump ropes and shit
you're there to show me moves and give drills to improve them, not to fix my fucking squat
I wouldn't be going to a brown ladyboy midget if I needed exercise tips
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>>178915
Saenchai is a bad mother fucker!

https://youtu.be/Vq6irThIPCs?si=K1BZk6_5GyAJQ--8
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I have the fastest hands in my gym, praise me

Not sure if this is supposed to go on /xs/ or /sp/, but what do you think of the sport? All I see on here is HEMA.

I'm trying to get into it and I'm looking to pick up some gear. I probably want to fence Epee. Any recommendations? The club has gear, but a lot of it is gross and sometimes not working, especially for left handed stuff.
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in the US is it dorky to ref in French
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>>175015
he's from oklahoma I'm pretty sure. no person would willingly admit to living in ohio
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>>131180
>HEMA guys call oly fencing antenna tag
>HEMA gets an inkling of a competition scene
>lol how do we score
>HEMA becomes sword tag, now with less athleticism and technical competency because of poor pedagogy
We've come full circle.
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there isn't really anything wrong with antenna tag as a concept. no less of a weird sport than like curling.
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>>195100
>there isn't really anything wrong with antenna tag as a concept
there isn't, swordsmanship derived sports do a better job at replicating the dynamism behind an exchange than the more "technically accurate" studies.

>welcome to the gym anon, today we're learning [technique], [counter1], [counter2], and [counter3]
>time to roll
>opponent launches [technique]
>heh, no problem, [counter1]
>suddenly [counter1counter] to instant tap
>repeat
>get fucking smoked nonstop for an hour
>repeat 3x/wk for a month
Why am I being set up for failure? Why am I giving these assholes money? When will they teach me the secret techniques? And why do I keep getting hit in the nuts "accidentally?" And why are protective cups forbidden? Am I enrolled in in a gay BDSM dungeon disguised as a martial arts studio?
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now that the retard has burned himself out the adults can start talking again

effectively what it comes down to is just because a person has a skill doesn't mean they're good at relaying the information, and since most athletes fall into the category of low IQ individuals the only way they can teach something is to say "just look at what I do and then copy it bro"
do yourself a favor and stop listening to what the "instructor" is telling you to do all the time, you need to be focused on personal skill goals you set for yourself. If you're forced to do static karate drilling and kata the way most bjj schools do and that's your only choice then just play along, then use the open mat time for personal development which is where you'll see actual improvements
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>>194719
>You will learn much faster and much more completely with your understanding If you are the one making the discoveries
I feel like there's a middleground between the brazil monkey see monkey do approach and the hands-off approach. Mindless repetition doesn't build critical thinking, but fumbling around in the dark with the occasional hint isn't leveraging the expert's knowledge efficiently.
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>>194881
It shouldn't be fumbling around in the dark, the instructor should be putting specific constraints on the player to Force a desired behavior to emerge
I think it's really a more active teaching style because the instructions will change depending on how the class is behaving

As an example I will give an exercise to play with
Then we bring it in and I ask everybody is there something they learned during that process, or is there something you maybe had trouble with during that which stands out to you?
And it's a group brain storm at that point where students can mention hey I realized putting my hand over here was a really effective frame. Great
and someone else can say oh I was having trouble moving towards the back because of where his knee was
Ok anyone have an idea about what he can do there?
"His right arm is free so try posting the elbow to give yourself a better angle?"
Ok let's go back and do the exercise again, keep in mind what we just talked about about
Doing it this way is immediate feedback dozens of times in a short amount of time
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>>194498
I bet you can't fight for shit and are a DYEL as well.
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>>194872
Great advice.

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>Hanging out at a party
>I find out some dude is a TKD blackbelt
>He starts doing these faggy party tricks like kicking bottle caps off of sodas and twirling in the air using completely inefficient and impractical tornado kicks
>Normies, being normies, completely eat this shit up and start cheering and yelling like it's the craziest thing they've ever seen
>I offer to spar him, knowing his flashy kicks will just get his ass beat
>I swarm him with a three piece combo to the head and body
>He kinda-sorta turtled up, but I KNOW I tagged him in all the gaps, and I KNOW he was kind of surprised, but he just sort of stumbled back and played it off like he blocked them all
>The crowd goes "wow, dang, good thing he blocked them all"
>WHAT?
>I LITERALLY tagged him like THREE TIMES, and they THINK he "blocked" them just because he kinda-sorta turtled up?
>He fakes a leg kick and transitions into that stupid 360 spinning back kick bullshit and it doesn't even hurt when it lands cause it was soft as fuck, but I stumble over a hitched part of the rug where it's sticking out, and I trip and fall over
>The whole crowd starts going crazy and going "nah bro, just stay down, just stay down, it's over"
>I'm literally one hundred percent fine, so I dust myself off and immediately stand back up to resume the spar, but everyone's already high fiving the other guy and telling me "it's over, it's over, just stay down"
>I tell them I just tripped over the rug, and the normies are like "yeah, cause taekwondo guy kicked you over it", and I tried explaining to them that I stumbled over it myself but they wouldn't listen and they kept saying the taekwondo guy won
>First of all, normies are so fucking stupid I can't even believe it, and are absolutely fucking clueless when it comes to fighting

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>>193334
Based TKD bro
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>>193334
damn TKD really works huh
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>>193109
>Anon gets owned like a 19-year-old with daddy issues in front of a bunch of people
>I SWARE ON ME MUM I TRIPPED ON AN INVISIBLE TURTLE
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>>194408
It works in street fights AND at parties, especially now that every other normie bitch is a koreeaboo.
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>>194748

This comment made my day lmfao

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INDIAN EXCELLENCE
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>>195029
SU-POOPER POWER 2030

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Skydiving is the lamest "sport" ever conceived. There is no competitive aspect unlike basically every other sport. It's literally just drop from a plane and them pull the parachute. Obviously, there is some preparation that needs to go on but you don't have to be a peak athlete to skydive (and there's no competition so no reason to improve once you know the fundamentals.) And it lasts for literally about 10 seconds or less then it's over. The disciplines that are actually designed for competition like accuracy have almost no entrants and/or viewers even by extreme sports standards because it's a shitty spectator sport anyways. The only benchmark that exists is "muh records."

Also, BASE is a blood sport lmao. But skydiving seems easy once you are competent at it. Unless I'm missing something since I started finding out about it literally yesterday.
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>>191718
Skydiver here. Very few people in the sport 'compete.

Formation skydiving, be it belly or vertical, is pretty competitive but repetitive. Freestyle is nice to watch once, but then its boring. Wingsuit comps are even more boring.

Swooping comps are exciting, but it's like racing, most people are watching for the crashes.

For the average skydiver, you want 50-60 seconds of adrenaline in free fall, mostly tracking or having fun, and then possibly another 6-10 seconds of adrenaline if you choose to swoop.
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>>191779
I'm going to do it for first time. My ultimate goal is wingsuit flying. How difficult is it to do wingsuit and is it thrilling ?
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>>193018
Not very hard, you will need a minimum of 200 jumps to get into wingsuit flying, and generally a lot of dropzones have a dedicated wingsuit group that is pretty tight. What part of the US are you in? I can direct you to the best dropzone
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>>191718
>no reason to improve once you know the fundamentals
The only people who think this way are A license freshlings who think all the other freshlings are fucking up the dive flow and jump straight into freeflying because it makes them feel more advanced than they actually are. Being a good belly jumper takes hundreds of jumps.

>BASE is a blood sport lmao
Only if you're an idiot. The point of BASE jumping isn't to enjoy 3 seconds of free fall and avoid hitting any rocks on the way down to landing. People like being out in nature and exploring. Scouting out a landing area and poking around cliffs for hazards is part of the complete experience. If your idea of getting into BASE jumping is to go from being a couch potato to jumping off rocks you're in for a bad time. The people who really enjoy BASE jumping are the ones that would have enjoyed being out there even if they weren't BASE jumping. The jump is one part of the experience.

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Parkour thread.

Where are you at with your training? How have you been working around the limits of weather and lockdowns? How much do you apply the utilitarian H├ębertist mindset of being strong to be useful to your training routines?

Freerunners can post, too. Maybe even gymnasts and trickers if you don't get your own thread up and running.

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>>193675
Because it's the art of running away. If you can't fight, there's no use in knowing how to chase anyone
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Can someone define or describe 'functional parkour'
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>>194879
I assume it means traditional utilitarian parkour, as opposed to flamboyant freerunning. Do you have an example of where you saw the term?
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>>194955
no
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How do I do parkour without drawing attention to myself or getting arrested?

previous >>166676
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>>194980
what happened this time? because last time he did get totally shafted because the referee and judges didn't seem to know the rule book
the guy kept shooting double legs on him which is explicitly against the rules but they were scoring it like successful takedowns
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>>194980
If karate guys really wanted to prove how effective it is they should go to MMA and Kickboxing promotions instead of create one just for them
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>>194988
how come karate is the only one not allowed to have their own thing like everybody else?
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>>194988
KC allowed other styles since a season ago you fucking retard
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A match beetween someone trained In BJJ, judo, Wrestling,... vs some nigga in plate armor without weapons.
how would it go?
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>>189811
the real lesson is some people don't train. and if you have never been hit with a full body weight throw before...
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>>190101
Believe or not the guy doing the throw ended up more injured. The guy who got dropped had the wind knocked out of him but the guy doing the throw was concussed by the pommel strikes to the head.
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>>190096
I wouldn't call the 17th century modern
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>>190102
Why would you lie? Those pummel strikes had no structure behind them and even then were hitting the mask.
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>>190096
It was never as clean as it is now though, most modern joint lock submissions are from late 1800s and on. In wrestling it was mainly just trying to pull something until it breaks, there was no technique to submissions. Even the toe hold which was probably one of the more common 1800s wrestling submissions was just pulling the foot in one direction when the opponent was turtled up. The armbar as we know it was only introduced to America around 1905 or something like that. So while submissions were around for thousands of years, they really weren't around to be used on battlefields, especially in Europe where there was superior weaponry and armor, they would mainly use a takedown to use their weapon to kill someone on the ground if they were armored, if they were unarmored then it doesn't even get to a grapple.

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How did this happen???

I thought wrestling was useful in the street????
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>>192495
I really doubt based on that throw the guy had any kind of grappling experience at all.
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>>191923
This. Proper suplex makes sure the opponent is the one crashing to the floor. If you did it the judo way your arm will hit the floor and be stuck underneath
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>>191573
Its only useful if you're not a total wimp
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>>191573
You can notice that retard had 0 athletic skills the way he tried to lift the other dude with 0 leg strength
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>>191573
"Legit" self-defence instructors say that you can't do shit in a street fight due to stress

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What is your boxing style and stance? Why did you choose them?
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Russia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJMa9p2bk8w
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>>191448
He probably doesn't box a lot.
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>>191907
kek
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>>191447
i dont looks like none of these
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>>191569
>>191568
Kino

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Was training muay thai in class with my friend. Got my kick caught and he pulled. When I was hopping in my grounded foot, I landed funny, felt something in my knee like a pop and collapsed. No swelling at all, feels weird and tingly. Hurts when I attempt to walk on it. Doctor claims only meniscus tear but nurse told me the doctor half asses his job. Going to try to schedule an MRI.
Do you guys thing its a ligament, and how bad is it to come back from those?
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>>194787
He's taking them all and now he's shocked.. how could this have happened?????
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>>194783
Thanks for the advice. If I do continue to go back to muay thai I will never train with clumsy retards again. I'm hoping its not ligament related because of what you described.
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>>194787
>>194854
How's the myocarditis going buddy? I'm sure it's because of global warming and not your shot. Remember, for each booster you take, 10 palestinians die for the promise land
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>>194862
>for each booster you take, 10 palestinians die for the promise land
How many fake identities can I get away with before the nurse notices?
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>>194894
6,000,000

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He did nothing wrong
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>>189339
He was absolutely bottom of the rung dirt poor in Brazil (as a child he ate out of the trough like an animal at times).

He turned out to be pretty good at BJJ except he had some sort of mental problem where he wouldn't let go of locks and would just cripple people. Which - you can't have in professional sports. Also he was never the best of the best so he got booted out till he was fighting in bottom rung promotions and then fell off badly
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>>189474
Paul Harris is a walking big pharma ad, anon.
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>>189252
>He did nothing wrong
Not true,he was brazilian
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I wish someone had kept pummeling him after he got knocked out.
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The age when MMA fighters were violent brutes with a lot of issues was gone since UFC 10, now everything it's business and no need for violence

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So, what do you think? Can he do it this time?
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>>189064
Can he? Yes. He's stronger than last time and big guys like Levan don't have the gas for long fights.
Will he? Not likely. He's the underdog for a reason.
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Devon doesn't have the side pressure or internal rotation of Ermes and I don't see him beating Levans wrist .if Levan pulls with his Side pressure and pronation primarily maybe Devon can swindle him but if he brings the match to his side of the table and works efficiently yeah it's going to be a short night for the Canadian.
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Where can we watch it for free?
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>>194794
Would also like to know. Anyone?
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>>>/sp/140226637

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>Defeats black belt in BJJ with a blue belt
why does nobody go over this in class?
Step 1: Stand up
Step 2: There is no Step 2!
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>>194852
> Risk/reward
> In favor of boxing
Your defense must be a lot better than mine then. I caught 2 concussions within a year, and the worse of the 2 was in training when I tried to weave a feinted straight right directly into a left hook.

I've had a bad knee injury, lots of pulled muscles, and a popped rib from grappling, but I have never caught a severe headache for 8 hours straight from wrestling. I fucking hate getting punched in the head, even in heavy gloves and headgear.

> And if you think a fun game is men's sweaty infected feet around your head
Lol, never ask a guy on the wrestling team why it seems like everyone on the team, and their girlfriends, always seem to end up missing classes around the same time.
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>>194869
You don't have to spar heavy
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>>194869
You also don't even need to spar. You can be a bag warrior and learn to hit hard and fast. That will do more than bjj larping for most people, "fitness boxing" is underrated. You will be fit, fast etc
You don't need to get your head bashed in for years by pro and amateur boxers to put up a decent fight protecting yourself. Especially when most boxing shit goes out the window as soon as grappling is involved. Better off being strong, quick and injury free. Know how to throw a strong punch. Moderate safe sparring if you want. You're not a top pro, the neck, eye and brain injuries aren't going to be worth the heavy sparring
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>>194871
> Don't go heavy
Sure, but that's kind of the rub, isn't it? You can turn it up semi-regulary in the grappling games, and unless you're working with guys still in their spazz out phase or someone who throws like an asshole, you're probably looking at some sore joints the next day. Wrestlers don't have a gear between stop and go anyway. Balls to the wall is how you learn that some throws can't be half assed or you will take a ride. Or when and where you have to put some elbow grease into some submissions to finish them.

Too many times, turning it up in the ring ended up with one of our guys sitting in a chair, puking into a bucket. But for a lot of us, that was the only way we understood how to work through another guy literally trying to knock our fucking faces off.

I won't say I'm smart enough to know where the optimum rate is, but I firmly believe you have to get in there occassionally and push it to validate all that other work you're putting in.
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>>194873
Might as well have an amateur fight if you're going to spar as hard as you can. At least you can have a proper record


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