(Japanese Kickboxing)
>>190582Kickboxing is cool but muay thai is cooler. Muay thai has cool music.
>>190582Rise hss some kino fights between the bloodlusted literally whos. I'm looking forward to this year's K-1 vs Rise.
>>190586I like MT but can't deal with the fucking music. It unironically filters me and the only MT I can watch is shit like ONE because they don't blast those horns. Just the drums would be nice, but the horns sound fucking awful.
Didn't realize this thread even went up. Take some more cool clips
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>>191039President Takeru
>>191039Kazuki Osaki
>>191039Taio Asahisa
>>191039Yuki Yoza
>>191039Akihiro Kaneko
>>191039Masashi Kumura
>>191046KEK
>>191053These guys be wilding with their split second KOs, fun stuff.
>>191102He should've taken a tumbling class from japanese pro wrestling prior to that stunt, could've torn his achilles heel.
I thought boxing was useless once kicks/knees were involved, why do i see so many punches being traded here
>>192108Being able to use your legs doesn't mean you shouldn't use your arms. It means you should use your legs. Being good at boxing will make you better at kickboxing but it's not enough.
>>192122>big boobie girl bully’s itty bitty booby girl with her big boobiesFuck you anon I don’t need a new fetish I’m trying hard as it is to not be a degenerate.
>>192108Unlike the thais, there seems to be alot of focus on boxing offense among japanese kickboxers
>>191053Is there an official YouTube channel to watch this from?
>>192354Yes!K-1: https://youtube.com/@k1wgp_prRISE: https://youtube.com/@riseontvRISE only has japanese commentary. K-1 has english and japanese. If you want the japanese commentary you have to search the fighters' japanese names though. You can also navigate through K-1's own website (k-1.co.jp) if you go to a fighters page there will be youtube links to their fights.Also that clip is from this fight: https://youtu.be/2M9fVnFNj7o
>>192319Because the scoring criteria is different in J-kick. J-kick scores punches, kicks, elbows, and knees equally while in MT, punches and low kicks don't score as well as high kicks, control in the clinch, and knees/elbows. People think J-kick doesn't clinch or neck-wrestle; that's patently false. Ever since 1966, the Japanese extensively utilized clinch with elbows and knees. Nowhere near as refined and technical as the Thais do, but if you look at historical footage of All Japan Kick Boxing Association and Japan Kick Boxing Association , they do chap koh too.
I still don't get how they just get in head to head like that. My boxing is shit so I would rather stay in the long hook range than intimate like that. If it ever gets tight I'd fall into the clinch to wait for ref break
>>192677Sometimes you just have to bang,I don't remember but there's a dutch kickboxing drill where you go head to head and spar in just that range without clinching. Also work your borxing bro
>>192421You’ve put me down a rabbit hole thanks for these, I’m starting to get these videos from Rizin and Breaking Down which are pure kino
>>192718i mean the range where I can see what my opponent is doing so I can guard, slip, parry, is much more comfortable for me. And how do they just let each other into range like that?
>>192744meant for>>192680
>>192718If you want to keep delving, I can also recommend KNOCK OUThttps://youtube.com/@KNOCKOUT_KBThey have some absolutely kino fights as well. One of their more popular guys is Ryusei who is very fun if you like cool technique combined with just being a little retarded sometimes.
Is there a Japanese kickboxing league? Or is 'Japanese kickboxing' just about the style of fighting of Japanese fighters?
>>197182Japanese Kickboxing refers to the sport that was created in 1966 after exposure to Muay Thai and combining it with Karate & Kenpo with Western boxing. It's why in the 60's and 70's you saw Japanese kickboxers (many of them were ex-karateka) do stuff like spinning hook kicks and jumping kicks while simultaneously throwing hard cut kicks to thighs and calves, clinching with elbows and knees. The Japanese incorporated the Southeast Asian style of full torque and twist of hips to generate power instead of chambering kicks (which they normally did for control). As for Japanese Kickboxing, these are the major organizations:New Japan Kickboxing Federation. It allows all the arsenal of Muay Thai techniques but with different scoring criteria as mentioned here >>192508. The rounds are the same as Muay Thai and the timing. https://www.youtube.com/user/njkfjapanThen there's Shin Nihon Kickboxing Association. They're the other big Kickboxing organization and NJKF's rival. They have similar scoring criteria but they only have 3 rounds instead of 5 from the last I heard. RISE and K-1 Japan that >>192421 mentioned are other venues. There was also Krush which used to be a feeder system for Japanese kickboxers to go into the major leagues.
Muay Thai number one
>>197198Shishido's beaten Nak Muays before, it's just that Buakaw's high caliber and very few can beat him. Besides Sato nailed Buakaw with a knee to the gut and knocked out; something Souwer and Masato were never able to do.
Don't like it. All they do is shell up and brute forward until gloves touch then start banging and counter. Not fun to watch. There's a reason tenshin exploited them all
>>191052whenever i try shit like this nothing happens.... amazing stuff tho love Yoza
>>190582I do prefer it
Are there any noteworthy japanese kickboxers in higher weight classes?
I think there is a flaw, not sure if fundamental of sort in the style that let Tenshin clown on them. Yes yes I know Tenshin is incredible and high fight IQ, but he used that IQ to exploit people
>>197377>>197556>Tenshin the J-Kickboxer beat other J-Kickboxers>this means J-Kickboxing is flawed???
>>197377You have not witnessed the transformation of Toki Tamaru
>>197557A dutchman doing muay thai is not necessarily dutch style. Tenshin developed his own style early. He moves around a lot more than the rest.It's japanese style to relentlessly pressure forward
>>197691Tenshin also beat elite muay thai fighters, mma fighters, and boxers. Does that mean muay thai, MMA, and boxing all have fundamental flaws that he exploited?
Muay Thai better
>>197711Of course MT is the GOAT striking style compared to Japanese kickboxing. But you can't dismiss it when it has a rich history of competition against Muay Thai (which is why it was developed) and how it spawned Kickboxing and Muay Thai directly and indirectly in Europe (particularly Netherlands, France, and Italy).
>>197710The forward pressure is stuffed by clinchers and angle cutting. Evrything has flaws but i don't like these flaws
>>190586But jkick has ring girls dressed up in cosplay
>>198229MT has people cosplaying as girls
>>198232J kick used to have that..... thank u for everything Jienotsu....
>>190586Imho the traditional dance and scoring system in muay thai is annoying af. Would prefer to see a kickboxing organization that just allows elbow strikes.
>>190582Kickboxing is ideal martial art imo for spectating