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(Japanese Kickboxing)
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>>190582
Kickboxing is cool but muay thai is cooler. Muay thai has cool music.
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>>190582
Rise hss some kino fights between the bloodlusted literally whos. I'm looking forward to this year's K-1 vs Rise.
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>>190586
I like MT but can't deal with the fucking music. It unironically filters me and the only MT I can watch is shit like ONE because they don't blast those horns. Just the drums would be nice, but the horns sound fucking awful.
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Didn't realize this thread even went up. Take some more cool clips
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President Takeru
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>>191039
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>>191039
Kazuki Osaki
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>>191039
Taio Asahisa
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>>191039
Yuki Yoza
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>>191039
Akihiro Kaneko
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Masashi Kumura
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>>191046
KEK
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>>191053
These guys be wilding with their split second KOs, fun stuff.
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>>191102
He should've taken a tumbling class from japanese pro wrestling prior to that stunt, could've torn his achilles heel.
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I thought boxing was useless once kicks/knees were involved, why do i see so many punches being traded here
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>>192108
Being able to use your legs doesn't mean you shouldn't use your arms. It means you should use your legs. Being good at boxing will make you better at kickboxing but it's not enough.
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>>192122
>big boobie girl bully’s itty bitty booby girl with her big boobies
Fuck you anon I don’t need a new fetish I’m trying hard as it is to not be a degenerate.
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>>192108
Unlike the thais, there seems to be alot of focus on boxing offense among japanese kickboxers
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>>191053
Is there an official YouTube channel to watch this from?
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>>192354
Yes!

K-1: https://youtube.com/@k1wgp_pr

RISE: https://youtube.com/@riseontv

RISE only has japanese commentary. K-1 has english and japanese. If you want the japanese commentary you have to search the fighters' japanese names though. You can also navigate through K-1's own website (k-1.co.jp) if you go to a fighters page there will be youtube links to their fights.

Also that clip is from this fight: https://youtu.be/2M9fVnFNj7o
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>>192319
Because the scoring criteria is different in J-kick.

J-kick scores punches, kicks, elbows, and knees equally while in MT, punches and low kicks don't score as well as high kicks, control in the clinch, and knees/elbows.

People think J-kick doesn't clinch or neck-wrestle; that's patently false. Ever since 1966, the Japanese extensively utilized clinch with elbows and knees. Nowhere near as refined and technical as the Thais do, but if you look at historical footage of All Japan Kick Boxing Association and Japan Kick Boxing Association , they do chap koh too.
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I still don't get how they just get in head to head like that. My boxing is shit so I would rather stay in the long hook range than intimate like that. If it ever gets tight I'd fall into the clinch to wait for ref break
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>>192677
Sometimes you just have to bang,I don't remember but there's a dutch kickboxing drill where you go head to head and spar in just that range without clinching. Also work your borxing bro
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>>192421
You’ve put me down a rabbit hole thanks for these, I’m starting to get these videos from Rizin and Breaking Down which are pure kino
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>>192718

i mean the range where I can see what my opponent is doing so I can guard, slip, parry, is much more comfortable for me. And how do they just let each other into range like that?
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>>192744
meant for>>192680
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>>192718
If you want to keep delving, I can also recommend KNOCK OUT
https://youtube.com/@KNOCKOUT_KB

They have some absolutely kino fights as well. One of their more popular guys is Ryusei who is very fun if you like cool technique combined with just being a little retarded sometimes.
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Is there a Japanese kickboxing league? Or is 'Japanese kickboxing' just about the style of fighting of Japanese fighters?
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>>197182
Japanese Kickboxing refers to the sport that was created in 1966 after exposure to Muay Thai and combining it with Karate & Kenpo with Western boxing. It's why in the 60's and 70's you saw Japanese kickboxers (many of them were ex-karateka) do stuff like spinning hook kicks and jumping kicks while simultaneously throwing hard cut kicks to thighs and calves, clinching with elbows and knees. The Japanese incorporated the Southeast Asian style of full torque and twist of hips to generate power instead of chambering kicks (which they normally did for control).

As for Japanese Kickboxing, these are the major organizations:

New Japan Kickboxing Federation. It allows all the arsenal of Muay Thai techniques but with different scoring criteria as mentioned here >>192508. The rounds are the same as Muay Thai and the timing.

https://www.youtube.com/user/njkfjapan

Then there's Shin Nihon Kickboxing Association. They're the other big Kickboxing organization and NJKF's rival. They have similar scoring criteria but they only have 3 rounds instead of 5 from the last I heard.

RISE and K-1 Japan that >>192421 mentioned are other venues. There was also Krush which used to be a feeder system for Japanese kickboxers to go into the major leagues.
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Muay Thai number one
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>>197198
Shishido's beaten Nak Muays before, it's just that Buakaw's high caliber and very few can beat him.

Besides Sato nailed Buakaw with a knee to the gut and knocked out; something Souwer and Masato were never able to do.
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Don't like it. All they do is shell up and brute forward until gloves touch then start banging and counter. Not fun to watch. There's a reason tenshin exploited them all
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>>191052
whenever i try shit like this nothing happens.... amazing stuff tho love Yoza
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>>190582
I do prefer it
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Are there any noteworthy japanese kickboxers in higher weight classes?
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I think there is a flaw, not sure if fundamental of sort in the style that let Tenshin clown on them. Yes yes I know Tenshin is incredible and high fight IQ, but he used that IQ to exploit people
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>>197377
>>197556
>Tenshin the J-Kickboxer beat other J-Kickboxers
>this means J-Kickboxing is flawed
???
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>>197377
You have not witnessed the transformation of Toki Tamaru
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>>197557
A dutchman doing muay thai is not necessarily dutch style. Tenshin developed his own style early. He moves around a lot more than the rest.
It's japanese style to relentlessly pressure forward
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>>197691
Tenshin also beat elite muay thai fighters, mma fighters, and boxers. Does that mean muay thai, MMA, and boxing all have fundamental flaws that he exploited?
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Muay Thai better
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>>197711
Of course MT is the GOAT striking style compared to Japanese kickboxing. But you can't dismiss it when it has a rich history of competition against Muay Thai (which is why it was developed) and how it spawned Kickboxing and Muay Thai directly and indirectly in Europe (particularly Netherlands, France, and Italy).
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>>197710
The forward pressure is stuffed by clinchers and angle cutting. Evrything has flaws but i don't like these flaws
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>>190586
But jkick has ring girls dressed up in cosplay
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>>198229
MT has people cosplaying as girls
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>>198232
J kick used to have that..... thank u for everything Jienotsu....
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>>190586
Imho the traditional dance and scoring system in muay thai is annoying af. Would prefer to see a kickboxing organization that just allows elbow strikes.
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>>190582
Kickboxing is ideal martial art imo for spectating
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best fights to learn jkick from bros?
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>>199742
Masaaki Noiri v. Rukiya Anpo
This one was the finale of an 8 man tournament so this is their third fight of the night. The other fights from that night are also really good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuDfGwQtcQk

Kaito Ono v. Masaaki Noiri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7SY67yMzP0

Masashi Kumura v. Akihiro Kaneko
This one is a trilogy and k-1 has announced another tournament that has both these guys in it, so there is the possiblity of a fourth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Oz_5Nyf85E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg1AtWdrEfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4ARXrU6sVo

Taio Asahisa v. Yuki Yoza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHYgR4xhFqk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvtjJFVIzQA

RISE World Series 2023
This was a tournament that was held across three events. Notable names include: Kumandoi, Kazuki Osaki, Shiro, Toki Tamaru.
The first round of the tournament was mostly just random european guys getting beaten up. The really good fights are:
Shiro v. Kumandoi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEjM8C6Vpzk
Kazuki Osaki v. Toki Tamaru
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaYuS7H6aMU
Kumandoi v. Toki Tamaru
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIX_hBP5_Mo

These are some of the fights i could remember off the top of my head. These are also pretty new, there are a lot of good older fights as well.
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>>198285
KNOCK OUT has you covered
"The Knock Out-Red ruleset allowed elbow strikes, sweeps and throws." - Wikipedia
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>>199816
thank you my man, i just started training in tokyo
will watch all of these
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>>199921
Dude that's awesome. Remember to watch your head, I hear the japanese guys spar like madmen
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>>198236
Just looked him up. What a fucking legend.
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>>200924
Man i love shootboxing
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>>199816
post more ser please
im hooked
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>>201226
You really can't go wrong with Masaaki Noiri. These are some of my favorites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huY5Lej_wt8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmex0tOaE_k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psJZ4yiOnrs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkJG6UFj89c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlhWd9ruSmw

Yoshiki Takei who is now a pro boxer also had some incredibly cool fights when he was in k-1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohJTAX0wwk0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qV5DthDvC0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Marh6IcsDGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9TdLnn5jMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCdiZYkmlJw

Kaito Ono is a shootboxing guy that comes into kickboxing every now and again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbchVGoSokY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd-3Y-UUgJ4

This weekend RISE put on a card with a lot of really good fights. You can watch them for free on abema.tv if you have a japanese vpn. If not they will be on youtube in a few days.
Kazuki Osaki fought Jin Mandokoro, both guys are really good. Taiga fought Daniel Puertas. Taiga has had a complete career resurgence recently which is cool. Taiju Shiratori who is also really good was on the card, as well as Taiju Shiratori.

The first fight between Kazuki Osaki and Jin Mandokoro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkWZvlbXkJk

Also a few cool fights from both guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG0yo9RkqcA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcUSPZFc56I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGuaPOV61UY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syeX0-gNq2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sel4HZDFnPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS5YRLO0o-g

And some cool fights from the other guys on the card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpaJIjwkvKI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzte9jQY5XA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O5BedCutS8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoDvrRy2sCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoDvrRy2sCY
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>>201226
continuing

some more cool guys are Taito Gunji, Keisuke Monguchi (these two recently fought), Hirotaka Asahisa (brother of previously mentioned Taio), Hideaki Yamazaki and Kento Haraguchi.
Some of their fights.

Taito Gunji:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdPG73PHdWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLQ1vQOr9xU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyvEjKtgl2o

Keisuke Monguchi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRuSYJP_3PU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-90yc91VYE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI4CNMEKpt8

Hirotaka Asahisa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj7Dh2cAymM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsb6FsPamw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjuLAJDEk3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smziiEG5aEY

Hideaki Yamazaki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DUqMqarUk0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reAU1alUdQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBHZzbt4Bxk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds3s24oGaWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWbQeXupWWU

Kento Haraguchi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKJruCb-MkQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrknK0UWSMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXHwzVjf6dQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XQOIJlbiL0
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>>201226
continuing

I somehow forgot to mention Tenshin and Takeru. They fought each other in 2022 in one of the biggest kickboxing fights ever. Takeru came into the fight with a win streak going back to 2012 (the loss in 2012 was mostly due to a bad ref). And Tenshin came in with an undefeated 43-0 record. This event filled the Tokyo Dome (56000 people) and the gate was (allegedly) 25 million usd, in a sport where the pay is infamously pretty bad. A bit weird but both guys also have really cool nicknames, Takeru "Natural Born Crusher" and Tenshin "The strongest high schooler".

Anyway the event was called THE MATCH 2022, and they stacked the card with all the best fighters, most of whom i have linked or mentioned previously.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenshin_Nasukawa_vs._Takeru link to the fight card if you want to see it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9h-3KvBRww

The fight was cool but for some reason they made the biggest fight in the sports history a 3-rounder.
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>>201226
Some more cool fights/fighters that popped into my head

Akihiro Kaneko, one of the best and most exciting guys in his division right now, 21-2 record having avenged both losses recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=852aqlG24OI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzrbcFyo7Rk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKlWz1-5GGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIMMRq3ElKQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PAK8ILO-6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UoMiC6RQEs


Rukiya Anpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdolP6utRhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rciIwpxOsPw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOL7lgqQWJs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3oLHRWaagc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erZ0Og725ZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPhuzYb1yt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glx_1O_dkJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8sMRyIdSuQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=messDncimv0


YA-MAN is completely insane but very fun. Also participated in the funniest fight i remember seeing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-kExOIu3Po
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Always partial to Yuki Egawa; he's what I call an intelligent pressure fighter. He doesn't just bum rush head-on but stalks his prey and whittles them down.
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>>201432
I know his name but I don't think I've seen him fight before. Any you'd recommend?
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>>201329
no.1 p4p no doubt
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>>201668
delusional
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>>202880
Who is better?
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>>202476
Gay
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>>203285
Allazov
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>>203487
beast
do you have the full fight ser?
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>>203401
Why?
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>>204325
Thaicels seething
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>>204466
Elbows and clinch allowed?
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>>192122
>>192187
I'm more interested in the fact that they don't have arms. What's the source for this image.
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>>204478
yeah it's muay thai rules
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>>190586
As someone who did muay thai, the music is big gay. The people who enjoy it are the thai version of weebs
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>>204522
https://x.com/_sensoGowang/status/1514048511792193544
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>>204325
As much as love MT and everything it's done to redefine every branch of modern kickboxing I feel like it's getting outpaced in modern times, in many ways due to the modern ruleset that scores punching so low
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>>204695
It took them like 50 years to finally be their equal
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>>204881
The fuck are you talking about? Japan was the first nation to compete against Muay Thai and they've had several fighters ranked in Lumpini and Rajadamner rankings like Toshio Fujiwara, Mitsuo Shima, Igari Genshu, and Yasuo Tabata. Fujiwara was the 1st foreigner to win a stadium title (Rajadamnern lightweight) while Shima won a world MT title in bantamweight that Thailand hosted in the early 70's. Japan has more stadium titles than any other country; only France comes close. And plenty of Japanese have also won WMC, WPMF, and WBC Muay Thai belts too.
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>>204861
Scoring never really mattered in striking sports if your "low scoring" style knocks the opponent out.
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>>205326
Wangchannoi is a good example of this
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>>203499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ercwvkScpc8
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>>203759
Allazov's division is more stacked
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>>212246
Glorious King Takeru <3. Hope he smashes Roddy
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>>211347
Under 53kg is better than 70kg
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>>199816
>their third fight of the night.
jesus christ thats crazy
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Where can i watch k1 events live?
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>>212345
Big copium m8. Both no1 and 2 p4p rn are 70kg. The division still has a lineage from sitthichai and marat grigorian going way back with petrosyan
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>>212423
Japanese promoters are a bit retarded at the moment so it's hard to watch outside Japan. But when they're not sperging out you typically watch on abema.tv or fite.tv/triller.
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>>212422
Kickboxers are a different breed. Fighting their guts out in all-action fights and getting paid pennies for it
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>>212543
Marat and Sitthichai are both very past their prime. p4p mean nothing especially Beyond Kicks rankings, they keep moving Rico up despite doing nothing and Shiro doesn't get a spot for beating a p4p holder. BK rankings are pointless. There are some really promising fighters coming up in 70kg but at the moment 53 is way more competitive because everyone is still young and in their prime



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