(Japanese Kickboxing)
>>190582Kickboxing is cool but muay thai is cooler. Muay thai has cool music.
>>190582Rise hss some kino fights between the bloodlusted literally whos. I'm looking forward to this year's K-1 vs Rise.
>>190586I like MT but can't deal with the fucking music. It unironically filters me and the only MT I can watch is shit like ONE because they don't blast those horns. Just the drums would be nice, but the horns sound fucking awful.
Didn't realize this thread even went up. Take some more cool clips
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>>191039President Takeru
>>191039Kazuki Osaki
>>191039Taio Asahisa
>>191039Yuki Yoza
>>191039Akihiro Kaneko
>>191039Masashi Kumura
>>191046KEK
>>191053These guys be wilding with their split second KOs, fun stuff.
>>191102He should've taken a tumbling class from japanese pro wrestling prior to that stunt, could've torn his achilles heel.
I thought boxing was useless once kicks/knees were involved, why do i see so many punches being traded here
>>192108Being able to use your legs doesn't mean you shouldn't use your arms. It means you should use your legs. Being good at boxing will make you better at kickboxing but it's not enough.
>>192122>big boobie girl bully’s itty bitty booby girl with her big boobiesFuck you anon I don’t need a new fetish I’m trying hard as it is to not be a degenerate.
>>192108Unlike the thais, there seems to be alot of focus on boxing offense among japanese kickboxers
>>191053Is there an official YouTube channel to watch this from?
>>192354Yes!K-1: https://youtube.com/@k1wgp_prRISE: https://youtube.com/@riseontvRISE only has japanese commentary. K-1 has english and japanese. If you want the japanese commentary you have to search the fighters' japanese names though. You can also navigate through K-1's own website (k-1.co.jp) if you go to a fighters page there will be youtube links to their fights.Also that clip is from this fight: https://youtu.be/2M9fVnFNj7o
>>192319Because the scoring criteria is different in J-kick. J-kick scores punches, kicks, elbows, and knees equally while in MT, punches and low kicks don't score as well as high kicks, control in the clinch, and knees/elbows. People think J-kick doesn't clinch or neck-wrestle; that's patently false. Ever since 1966, the Japanese extensively utilized clinch with elbows and knees. Nowhere near as refined and technical as the Thais do, but if you look at historical footage of All Japan Kick Boxing Association and Japan Kick Boxing Association , they do chap koh too.
I still don't get how they just get in head to head like that. My boxing is shit so I would rather stay in the long hook range than intimate like that. If it ever gets tight I'd fall into the clinch to wait for ref break
>>192677Sometimes you just have to bang,I don't remember but there's a dutch kickboxing drill where you go head to head and spar in just that range without clinching. Also work your borxing bro
>>192421You’ve put me down a rabbit hole thanks for these, I’m starting to get these videos from Rizin and Breaking Down which are pure kino
>>192718i mean the range where I can see what my opponent is doing so I can guard, slip, parry, is much more comfortable for me. And how do they just let each other into range like that?
>>192744meant for>>192680
>>192718If you want to keep delving, I can also recommend KNOCK OUThttps://youtube.com/@KNOCKOUT_KBThey have some absolutely kino fights as well. One of their more popular guys is Ryusei who is very fun if you like cool technique combined with just being a little retarded sometimes.
Is there a Japanese kickboxing league? Or is 'Japanese kickboxing' just about the style of fighting of Japanese fighters?
>>197182Japanese Kickboxing refers to the sport that was created in 1966 after exposure to Muay Thai and combining it with Karate & Kenpo with Western boxing. It's why in the 60's and 70's you saw Japanese kickboxers (many of them were ex-karateka) do stuff like spinning hook kicks and jumping kicks while simultaneously throwing hard cut kicks to thighs and calves, clinching with elbows and knees. The Japanese incorporated the Southeast Asian style of full torque and twist of hips to generate power instead of chambering kicks (which they normally did for control). As for Japanese Kickboxing, these are the major organizations:New Japan Kickboxing Federation. It allows all the arsenal of Muay Thai techniques but with different scoring criteria as mentioned here >>192508. The rounds are the same as Muay Thai and the timing. https://www.youtube.com/user/njkfjapanThen there's Shin Nihon Kickboxing Association. They're the other big Kickboxing organization and NJKF's rival. They have similar scoring criteria but they only have 3 rounds instead of 5 from the last I heard. RISE and K-1 Japan that >>192421 mentioned are other venues. There was also Krush which used to be a feeder system for Japanese kickboxers to go into the major leagues.
Muay Thai number one
>>197198Shishido's beaten Nak Muays before, it's just that Buakaw's high caliber and very few can beat him. Besides Sato nailed Buakaw with a knee to the gut and knocked out; something Souwer and Masato were never able to do.
Don't like it. All they do is shell up and brute forward until gloves touch then start banging and counter. Not fun to watch. There's a reason tenshin exploited them all
>>191052whenever i try shit like this nothing happens.... amazing stuff tho love Yoza
>>190582I do prefer it
Are there any noteworthy japanese kickboxers in higher weight classes?
I think there is a flaw, not sure if fundamental of sort in the style that let Tenshin clown on them. Yes yes I know Tenshin is incredible and high fight IQ, but he used that IQ to exploit people
>>197377>>197556>Tenshin the J-Kickboxer beat other J-Kickboxers>this means J-Kickboxing is flawed???
>>197377You have not witnessed the transformation of Toki Tamaru
>>197557A dutchman doing muay thai is not necessarily dutch style. Tenshin developed his own style early. He moves around a lot more than the rest.It's japanese style to relentlessly pressure forward
>>197691Tenshin also beat elite muay thai fighters, mma fighters, and boxers. Does that mean muay thai, MMA, and boxing all have fundamental flaws that he exploited?
Muay Thai better
>>197711Of course MT is the GOAT striking style compared to Japanese kickboxing. But you can't dismiss it when it has a rich history of competition against Muay Thai (which is why it was developed) and how it spawned Kickboxing and Muay Thai directly and indirectly in Europe (particularly Netherlands, France, and Italy).
>>197710The forward pressure is stuffed by clinchers and angle cutting. Evrything has flaws but i don't like these flaws
>>190586But jkick has ring girls dressed up in cosplay
>>198229MT has people cosplaying as girls
>>198232J kick used to have that..... thank u for everything Jienotsu....
>>190586Imho the traditional dance and scoring system in muay thai is annoying af. Would prefer to see a kickboxing organization that just allows elbow strikes.
>>190582Kickboxing is ideal martial art imo for spectating
best fights to learn jkick from bros?
>>199742Masaaki Noiri v. Rukiya AnpoThis one was the finale of an 8 man tournament so this is their third fight of the night. The other fights from that night are also really goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuDfGwQtcQkKaito Ono v. Masaaki Noirihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7SY67yMzP0Masashi Kumura v. Akihiro KanekoThis one is a trilogy and k-1 has announced another tournament that has both these guys in it, so there is the possiblity of a fourthhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Oz_5Nyf85Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg1AtWdrEfUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4ARXrU6sVoTaio Asahisa v. Yuki Yozahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHYgR4xhFqkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvtjJFVIzQARISE World Series 2023This was a tournament that was held across three events. Notable names include: Kumandoi, Kazuki Osaki, Shiro, Toki Tamaru. The first round of the tournament was mostly just random european guys getting beaten up. The really good fights are:Shiro v. Kumandoihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEjM8C6VpzkKazuki Osaki v. Toki Tamaruhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaYuS7H6aMUKumandoi v. Toki Tamaruhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIX_hBP5_MoThese are some of the fights i could remember off the top of my head. These are also pretty new, there are a lot of good older fights as well.
>>198285KNOCK OUT has you covered "The Knock Out-Red ruleset allowed elbow strikes, sweeps and throws." - Wikipedia
>>199816thank you my man, i just started training in tokyo will watch all of these
>>199921Dude that's awesome. Remember to watch your head, I hear the japanese guys spar like madmen
>>198236Just looked him up. What a fucking legend.
>>200924Man i love shootboxing
>>199816post more ser please im hooked
>>201226You really can't go wrong with Masaaki Noiri. These are some of my favoriteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huY5Lej_wt8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmex0tOaE_khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psJZ4yiOnrshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkJG6UFj89chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlhWd9ruSmwYoshiki Takei who is now a pro boxer also had some incredibly cool fights when he was in k-1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohJTAX0wwk0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qV5DthDvC0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Marh6IcsDGUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9TdLnn5jMYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCdiZYkmlJwKaito Ono is a shootboxing guy that comes into kickboxing every now and againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbchVGoSokYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd-3Y-UUgJ4This weekend RISE put on a card with a lot of really good fights. You can watch them for free on abema.tv if you have a japanese vpn. If not they will be on youtube in a few days. Kazuki Osaki fought Jin Mandokoro, both guys are really good. Taiga fought Daniel Puertas. Taiga has had a complete career resurgence recently which is cool. Taiju Shiratori who is also really good was on the card, as well as Taiju Shiratori. The first fight between Kazuki Osaki and Jin Mandokorohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkWZvlbXkJkAlso a few cool fights from both guys:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG0yo9RkqcAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcUSPZFc56Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGuaPOV61UYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syeX0-gNq2ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sel4HZDFnPQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS5YRLO0o-gAnd some cool fights from the other guys on the cardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpaJIjwkvKIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzte9jQY5XAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O5BedCutS8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoDvrRy2sCYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoDvrRy2sCY
>>201226continuingsome more cool guys are Taito Gunji, Keisuke Monguchi (these two recently fought), Hirotaka Asahisa (brother of previously mentioned Taio), Hideaki Yamazaki and Kento Haraguchi.Some of their fights.Taito Gunji:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdPG73PHdWkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLQ1vQOr9xUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyvEjKtgl2oKeisuke Monguchihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRuSYJP_3PUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-90yc91VYEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI4CNMEKpt8Hirotaka Asahisahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj7Dh2cAymMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsb6FsPamwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjuLAJDEk3ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smziiEG5aEYHideaki Yamazakihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DUqMqarUk0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reAU1alUdQQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBHZzbt4Bxkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds3s24oGaWIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWbQeXupWWUKento Haraguchihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKJruCb-MkQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrknK0UWSMAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXHwzVjf6dQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XQOIJlbiL0
>>201226continuingI somehow forgot to mention Tenshin and Takeru. They fought each other in 2022 in one of the biggest kickboxing fights ever. Takeru came into the fight with a win streak going back to 2012 (the loss in 2012 was mostly due to a bad ref). And Tenshin came in with an undefeated 43-0 record. This event filled the Tokyo Dome (56000 people) and the gate was (allegedly) 25 million usd, in a sport where the pay is infamously pretty bad. A bit weird but both guys also have really cool nicknames, Takeru "Natural Born Crusher" and Tenshin "The strongest high schooler".Anyway the event was called THE MATCH 2022, and they stacked the card with all the best fighters, most of whom i have linked or mentioned previously.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenshin_Nasukawa_vs._Takeru link to the fight card if you want to see it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9h-3KvBRwwThe fight was cool but for some reason they made the biggest fight in the sports history a 3-rounder.
>>201226Some more cool fights/fighters that popped into my headAkihiro Kaneko, one of the best and most exciting guys in his division right now, 21-2 record having avenged both losses recently.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=852aqlG24OIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzrbcFyo7Rkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKlWz1-5GGAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIMMRq3ElKQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PAK8ILO-6chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UoMiC6RQEsRukiya Anpohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdolP6utRhQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rciIwpxOsPwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOL7lgqQWJshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3oLHRWaagchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erZ0Og725ZEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPhuzYb1yt0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glx_1O_dkJ0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8sMRyIdSuQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=messDncimv0YA-MAN is completely insane but very fun. Also participated in the funniest fight i remember seeinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-kExOIu3Po
Always partial to Yuki Egawa; he's what I call an intelligent pressure fighter. He doesn't just bum rush head-on but stalks his prey and whittles them down.
>>201432I know his name but I don't think I've seen him fight before. Any you'd recommend?
>>201329no.1 p4p no doubt
>>201668delusional
>>202880Who is better?
>>202476Gay
>>203285Allazov
>>203487beastdo you have the full fight ser?
>>203401Why?
>>204325Thaicels seething
>>204466Elbows and clinch allowed?
>>192122>>192187I'm more interested in the fact that they don't have arms. What's the source for this image.
>>204478yeah it's muay thai rules
>>190586As someone who did muay thai, the music is big gay. The people who enjoy it are the thai version of weebs
>>204522https://x.com/_sensoGowang/status/1514048511792193544
>>204325As much as love MT and everything it's done to redefine every branch of modern kickboxing I feel like it's getting outpaced in modern times, in many ways due to the modern ruleset that scores punching so low
>>204695It took them like 50 years to finally be their equal
>>204881The fuck are you talking about? Japan was the first nation to compete against Muay Thai and they've had several fighters ranked in Lumpini and Rajadamner rankings like Toshio Fujiwara, Mitsuo Shima, Igari Genshu, and Yasuo Tabata. Fujiwara was the 1st foreigner to win a stadium title (Rajadamnern lightweight) while Shima won a world MT title in bantamweight that Thailand hosted in the early 70's. Japan has more stadium titles than any other country; only France comes close. And plenty of Japanese have also won WMC, WPMF, and WBC Muay Thai belts too.
>>204861Scoring never really mattered in striking sports if your "low scoring" style knocks the opponent out.
>>205326Wangchannoi is a good example of this
>>203499https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ercwvkScpc8
>>203759Allazov's division is more stacked
>>212246Glorious King Takeru <3. Hope he smashes Roddy
>>211347Under 53kg is better than 70kg
>>199816>their third fight of the night.jesus christ thats crazy
Where can i watch k1 events live?
>>212345Big copium m8. Both no1 and 2 p4p rn are 70kg. The division still has a lineage from sitthichai and marat grigorian going way back with petrosyan
>>212423Japanese promoters are a bit retarded at the moment so it's hard to watch outside Japan. But when they're not sperging out you typically watch on abema.tv or fite.tv/triller.
>>212422Kickboxers are a different breed. Fighting their guts out in all-action fights and getting paid pennies for it
>>212543Marat and Sitthichai are both very past their prime. p4p mean nothing especially Beyond Kicks rankings, they keep moving Rico up despite doing nothing and Shiro doesn't get a spot for beating a p4p holder. BK rankings are pointless. There are some really promising fighters coming up in 70kg but at the moment 53 is way more competitive because everyone is still young and in their prime
>>212829Sitthichai is old man now but Marat still has it. Shiro just won but he hasn't fought division top dog kaneko just yet. Rico went up because Toki Tamaru lost his place. Tbh I hate heavyweights now too. I ignore every p4p ranking above 80kg. I'm watching the Chinese guys and what business does Tawanchai have in the top 10 for the division, all he did was fight eternal competitor Jo Nattawut to 2 very close decisions. 53kg division isn't strong p4p because their are 3 potential champs for every belt, can't be p4p top dog when you can't even dominate your division.
>>213105Based take on anything over 80kg. I think 53kg fighters should be ranked higher precisely because they can't dominate the division. I think it shows how strong the division is that there isn't a 100% clear number one. Maybe I'm also partial to the traditional meaning of p4p rather than it being a ranking of accomplishments
A few bangers from the 29/9 k-1 event:Yuki Yoza vs Petchdam Petchyindeehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEvi91GdX-sTaito Gunji vs Takumi Teradahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReprdUK5t_0Lyra Nagasaka vs Koji Ikedahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXLYCA_m3o0
>>214160Taio Asahisa my beloved <3
Idk if this question belongs here, but where do I watch old kickboxing matches from the late 60s til the 2000s? Does anyone have torrents of those? Any promotion/ruleset is fine, I wanna watch them all anyway.
>>214596J-kick aficionado hereIt's gonna be close to impossible to find the 60's, 70's, and 80's footage of All Japan Kick Boxing Association and Japan Kick Boxing Association as well as lesser organizations. There's a huge mess over who owns the distribution rights. You're best bet is to find individual fighters like Toshio Fujiwara or Igari Genshu. Youtube has some 90's and 00's footage of All Japan Kickboxing Federation (the reincarnation of All Japan Kick Boxing Association) and Shin (means new in Japanese) Nihon Kickboxing Association (the resurrection of the old Japan Kick Boxing Association. Just look them up with their full names or acronyms (AJKF, SNKA) and you'll find footage.
>>214696Would you happen to have any torrents of those?
ONE is a terrible promotion, but at least they'll let us watch Masaaki Noiri murder a pedophile
>>215640man that is nasty as fuck, was the guy ok?
I've watched Japanese kick since 2008 and the recent crop of fighters are far more skilled than their predecessors. They do more body/high kicks and utilize knees/elbows to good effect. Their clinching has even gotten better.
My niggas, love me some jkickYuki Yoza my son
jkickbros, does anpo have any chance against ryan garcia? i dont wanna see my boy get KO'd by that faggot ryan
>>217074Probably doesn't have a great chance. He looked surprisingly decent against Pacquiao but Pacman is sadly a fossil these days. On the bright side, Anpo did post a video of him kicking a box with Ryan's face on it, so he might do the funny and just kick him in the face
>>217059>>217330>>216796>>216603Long pant supremacy
>>217408kek, anpo has the chance to do one of the funniest things in pro fighting history
>>217074>>217408>>217426Why the fuck are J-kickers doing boxing exhibitions?
>>217429my guess is money
One FC friday fights live right now, usually a mix of some kickboxing and thaihttps://youtu.be/0cfPCRmVnX4https://youtu.be/0cfPCRmVnX4https://youtu.be/0cfPCRmVnX4
>>217946>not availabe in your countryfuck me
Noiri lost R1 8-10 knocked down pretty clearR2 split he has good shots in but not overwhelming and lost out on pressureR3 10-9Let's throw him to Grigorian next, two different style of pressure clashing. Sad that Chinga left ONE FC just when chatri brought in some competitors for him
>>217999I can't tell if Noiri just needs to move down in weight or if he's actually just washed. Even though i had him winning 2-3 that performance was still pretty embarrassing
>>217426
>>218049Too much horsemeat, can't go back to 65kg. And ONE FC supposedly has test in place that makes water cut harder so everyone fights slightly heavier than they did before. 60-70kg are still the best divisions. Wide pool of competitors, speedy and power
>>218050I like these new gen fighters having these tricky kicks compared to their predecessors. J-kick had too many guys stick to meat-and-potatoes low kick-punch with the occasional elbow or knee. Only a few guys were technicians with kicks to the body and head.
>>218308Because the meat and potatoes fill you up. Spice and herbs to make it more palatable
>>217999rewatchnoiri lost r2, he only has the last 10 seconds
noiri fighting an iraqi on jan 24. is it completely over for him if he loses again?
>>219679The Iraqi used to fight at 77kg so Noiri will probably get smashed against the ropes again. I think he might be washed because I swear he didn't used to just stand glove to glove with his opponents before like 2022. Maybe he just needs to drop down to 65kg again. I don't think he will ever find real success at 70kg.
Anpo fought some big iranian dude instead of Ryan in a boxing exhibition and uuuh, see for yourselfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTKy1FylOM0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwZlU6jnll4
>>219988God I love when they hit that pose. Who is that?
>>220066Sina is so fucking funny. One of the dirtiest fighters in the sport and also kind of a massive bitch, but I just can't help but love him
>>219988
>>220070You forgot to mention he couldnt box a granny in a wheelchair
>>220080>>220070A short compilation of Sina's many fouls
>>220101>ko's ref>rabbit puncheswhat an absolute cunt, but i cant help but laugh too
Noiribros, we are so backNoiri 2nd round win by low kick KOhttps://www.youtube.com/live/ED1ObmER_SQ?si=76p-E8Y8iwVzj6Xg
>>220874We are so ubelieveably back fellers. Title run starts NOW! (He still needs to go back down though)
>>220874>>220886
What? Noiri is getting title shot after a bounce back win over a fodder? Not Marat? It would be a much more interesting fight. On that note Marat is beating Kaito Ono
Is our boy gonna get stomped? Or is there some hope
>>222194Tawanchai murdered Superbon. Noiri doesn't stand a chance.
>>222194Noiri is better than his recent run indicates, but he's not great for the weight class and he's going up against an absolute killer. It doesn't look good for him.
>>222194I think Tawanchai will rightfully be a sizeable favorite. His teep will probably be very difficult to deal with. On the other hand, Tawanchai has looked very mid against worse fighters than Noiri (Joe Nattawut). Tawanchai has also had problems with being pressured under the kickboxing ruleset. That chinese guy finished him. That being said Noiri is still far too small for the weight. I favor Tawanchai but I don't think it's a gimme, Noiri has paths to victory but the cards are stacked against him.
>>222152You can't treat ONE like a serious promotion. Their matchmaking is entirely based on the whims of Chatri. Marat also looked bad in his past few fights so I think Kaito has a decent chance.
I don't really like ONE but this is a really good card. There are so many good japanese fighters on the card. I do hope that Kaito and Nadaka are just doing a one-off with ONE and aren't under an exclusive contract. Also Di Bella vs The Ancient Sam-A
That one Russian guy with the neckbeard and afro is a fucking monster.
>>222279Nabati? Out of all the roid monsters in ONE I think he's the most juiced. Apparently served the longest drug suspension from IFMA ever
>>222283All the Thais are juiced so it's just juice heads vs. juice heads and he happens to be one of the best.
>>222274The loss against superbon doesn’t look bad, it’s closer than an UD. And the loss to Chinga is obvious, Chinga just better than everyone. He did beat sitthichai tho
>>222276Akimoto demoted to "bum" ranking to fight Brazilian MMA guy, sad.He looked sharp technically but doesn't adapt well.
>>223602Akimoto is unfortunately getting a bit old. Even though he's 32, he came up through the koshien in his teen years, and if he trains like all the other japanese fighters, he's leaving most of his braincells in the gym.
>>223661He stopped pro kickboxing at 21 to fight kyokushin, spent 5 years, curiously. Then he trains at evolve mma ever since.Very crisp, his camp prepares him well but the corner fails to instruct him for mid fight adjustments, or he's not the type to adapt well
>>223691"the corner fails to instruct him for mid fight adjustments, or he's not the type to adapt well"Very true. That seems to be fairly prevalent in japanese fighters. I don't know how they train but it seems to me like they don't prepare as well as they perhaps could, in terms of specific opponents.
>>223730Evolve is in Singapore it's Chatri's gym. His coach is a retired Dutch MMA fighter, I think it's just his problem specifically
Refined Kan Nakamura enjoyer.
>>223896Yeah they should have made him drill more BJJ techniques with him considering his striking background. Its probably just Japanese being afraid of making mistakes type of problem and struggling with new things?
>>224625I love that little steroid monster
They've taken his pants :(
He's fucking done it. Let's go fellas. Jkick reigns supreme and muay thai remains gay
>>226333J-Kickbros... We're eating good
>Superdick missed weight AGAINGlad this motherfucker lost. Also Takeru fucking EMBARRASSED.
>>226333Imagine having angry noiri shell up and aggressively waddle towards you like that while you're backed on the ropes
>>226338Haven't eaten this well in years>>226427Honestly the fat bastard deserved to lose to the lankcel after missing weight again>>226622Terrifying. Proving once again that weird, niche karate is superior to muay thai
I take back every positive thing I've said about Toki, I HATE HIM. He can go and get wrestlefucked in *** with Taiga
>>226855>niche karate is superior to muay thaii have about 4 decades worth of clips proving this wrong if you want
jkick homos have a weird inferiority complex when it comes to muay thai, it's funny if you ctrl f muay here it comes up no less than 18 times, do it in any thaig for japan or jkick and nobody gives a fuck.i guess it's because jkick spawned as a result of muay thai practitioners beating the fuck out of mid karate japs in the 60s, and the sentiment just pervaded. half this thread is about thai people lmao
>>226880>jkick homos have a weird inferiority complex when it comes to muay thai>proceeds to spam the thread with muay thai fighters winning out of sheer butthurtthe irony is palpable
>>226895not as ironic as you want it to be unfortunately. was browsing the front page and was unsurprised to see gaykick posters expressing their complex. good opportunity to post some clips
>>226879>Muaytard seething about jkick in a jkick threadKek, what a faggot
All Thais are literally steroid cheats. Roids are legal and cheap in Thailand and they don't test for them at the stadiums. When that one Thai was busted for them in One he straight up admitted it was the norm for Thai fighters to take steroids "for injuries."
>>226926jkick is literally ran by the yakuza. all combat sports on that island have been. you can go watch interviews of wanderlei silva talking about getting threatened at gunpoint in his hotel room. the first pride president was murdered by the yakuza. but i doubt japanese fighters would ever go so far as to use steroids though. k1 didn't even test for steroids until 2023. even the most "traditional" japanese combat sport Sumo is full of roid cheats, look at Tochinoshin in his prime. japs don't give a fuck about steroids so it's funny you say it like it's a bad thing anyways>they don't test for them at the stadiums>one Thai was busted for them in One?? ONE is in Lumpinee Stadium is it not?
>>226928>continues to spam clips out of butthurtSeething and faggotry continues
Rewatching Noiri vs Mosab Amrani glory 8. R1 decisively Amrani
I like both muay thai and jkick and I find the autism on the thread endearing
>>226928>>they don't test for them at the stadiums>>one Thai was busted for them in One>?? ONE is in Lumpinee Stadium is it not?One tests; the stadiums do not. Please work on your reading comprehension. Or do you think all muay thai fights in Thailand take place on One cards?
>>226942no shit the stadiums don't test, the promoters do. rajadamnern and lumpinee aren't promoters
>>226935kek every general in this godforsaken site devolves into 2 autists arguing about something
>>220066Sina is so genuinely awful I don't know how he ever won fights. Before this fight I've only ever seen him get demolished by Liu Ce, and I thought this Anpo fight might be rigged, but no, he genuinely has the least fast twitch muscle on a fighter ever perhaps, and when he needs to dig deep into his bag, he only pulls out fouls and spinning backfists.
>>226978he do be funny tho
>>226946>rajadamnern and lumpinee aren't promotersThey literally have their own championships, you fucking moron. And those Thai promoters don't do any drug-testing; they're only responsible for booking fighters to fight at the stadiums. Only outside promotions like One drug test. Thais are steroid cheats; this is a fact.
>>227089Please refrain from posting the guy who shat the bed in his home stadium on headliner event
>>227128Um, Rodtangbros? No one told us punching yourself doesn't score points. Damn corrupt japanese judges.
>>227133
Thaibros, our reprisal?
I'm just off a call with Chatri, if Noiri gets by Marat he's paying Chinga a copious mountain of money from the venture capital money he raised to come back one off, beat the shit out of Noiri then sail off into semi retirement again
>>227145Too late, I just got an email from Yi Long. Chinga is getting a 10 million yuan contract from Wu Lin Feng, on the condition that he changes his name to Chigga and walks out with the 5-star red flag.
>>227147Chatri has access to the Bog network you have no idea
>thread is a year oldKek you guys draw no dimes
>>220069Kenta Nanbara. He is decent but doubt he would win against any high level lhw or mw fighters. Japan doesn't really have good fighters over 70kg.>>220070Him and istrate are so similar in that, their recent fights were all bizarre which is why it's so funny to me how their fights against eachother ended >>222152Shame we never got to see Marat v kaito>>222233This aged poorly>>222273This was a good breakdown>>222276Ancient Sam a looked great in last few fights. He murdered that Chinese dude...well more like completely dominated him and had a speed edge too iirc>>222686Ud just means all the judges scored it for superbon. If you scored it for superbon too and were a judge it would still be ud. What you should say is it was more competitive, which it was. Unlike the second fight.>>224625I wish they did a rematch with him and yoza>>226140Always hated pants. Goofy fucks. This is good.
>>227139Tenshin's little bro finally getting good. He still lost to momu twice. Why did they rob my boy like that? He is probably the most explosive/fast fighter in any weight class
>>227168praising speed at etherweight is like praising power at superheavyweight
>>227173That's true but he is so much faster than anyone he fights so it's impressive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wSIO3sR9tU
Is Takeru /ourguy/?
>>227139Muay Thai proven gay again>>227145If Kido can drop Chigga, so can Noiri. Trust in him>>227157>Always hated pants. Goofy fucks. This is good.You have bad taste, unfortunately>>227168Momu is the real champ. That potatoheaded brother of Tenshin's is just riding his coat-tails
>>227570Sounds ominous >>227580No, I have great taste I love shorts and jkickers have some of the best in the game. Example: monguchi in pic rel
>>227593I need Mona to kick me in the mouth
>>220070>>220101kek he did the funny again on glory today
>>227789Sina coming to europe to showcase the superiority of oriental kickboxingEurokickers quiver in fear
>>227580you forgot the years of roids chigga has been on since 2017
Good to be back lads. Who do y'all think Yoza is fighting first in ONE? I really hope they dont feed him to some monster like they did Noiri
>>228574It's good to be back fellers. It's tragic to see Yoza leaving k-1 in favour getting 1 fight per year. Best we can hope is that he slaughters Haggerty in the near future.
>>227116That's what he gets for training like a retard
>>227139Why is there this shit-flinging between Muay Thai fans and Japanese Kickboxing fans? The Thais actually respect their Japanese opponents and vice-versa. There's been decades of competition between them since the 1960's. Japan is the strongest Muay Thai nation outside of Thailand though France is a close second. More Japanese have won stadium titles than any other farangs. Japanese have trained at Muay camps and brought over Thai trainers. The legendary Chamuekpet Hapalang (who won NINE stadium belts) lives in Japan. Even Dieselnoi trained a lot of fighters in Japan and his family lives there. Japanese Kickboxing was created to compete against Muay Thai by incorporating elements of its fighting style along with Western boxing + karate/kenpo. A Japanese kickboxer defeating a Thai fighter just reaffirms that the Southeast Asian style of full hip swing when kicking as well as clinching with knees is king of stand-up.
>>229819retards will fight over anything on the internet
>>229447sneakiest head kick ive ever seen. beautiful.
>>229819Mostly I think it's because thai fans are a little retarded and easy to rile up
>>229855Kento is surely the coolest guy in the sport behind Noiri
>>192108Because punches are more efficient in literally every way>takes less energy>takes less time to reach target>easier to chain into combos>far easier to learn
what the hell was this nigga doinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTEy-TElHPs
>>230624Fleeing the devil
Where can i watch ONE live (pirated)? Yes i know they stream on YT but its always geo-locked here
>>230720Set a vpn to Thailand and go to One's YT channel. Alternatively, Channel 7 also streams One with Thai commentary so you don't have to listen to that retarded faggot mitch chilson.https://www.youtube.com/@ch7hdIf you don't have a vpn (gay), streameast or methstreams probably also works
>>230726I tried a few free vpns last time ONE was on and none worked for the geo lock. The usual places for streams werent streaming it either (crackstreams, methstreams, totanon, etc.). Guess this channel 7 will be my last hope if it's not also geo locked. Thank you anon
I hate this
ONE's livehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnoo2nxSGds
not looking good for kaito
I hope Yoza does better
Osmanov breaking, he was hurt
YOZA-SAN I KNEEL
>>230970Without handwraps as well. He's so incredibly based. Eat my nuts you russian roid head>>230966Disappointing performance from Kaito but that seems to be the trend when he's not fighting in shootboxing
Krush is live right nowSet your VPN to Japanhttps://abema.tv/now-on-air/fighting-sports
>>231049Is there any way to watch this now afterwards?
Yoza got a hard fight there, the only clear win round was round 2. He was fighting the dagestan version of allazov, a bit stiffer, a bit less on the leg and unwilling to work while stepping back. The leg kicks and his weird lean back body kick paid dividends tho, couldn't read the target to block. At the start of R3 I thought that Yoza had him in his bag for a big shot but not really he did not want to trade hands.Siasarani looked like he read the future, he stood still at 2:14 R1, menacingly, lmao. Great muay femur southpaw style like Sitthichai. Kaito turned it up a notch in R3 but a little too late, Siasarani has a great chin and incredible eyes he's not getting that last round KO.Chatri is not giving big name Japanese a second to catch their breathe at all. It's like your record is good no need for padding just fight the big fights
>>231111It's on YT nowhttps://youtu.be/TrKhASHUs_w
>>231111>>232144Sorry wrong reply. The fights from Krush go up on youtube in a few weeks time, but they're not uploaded in english, and won't show up unless you type the japanese names. The easiest way to find them is to navigate to a fighter's page on k-1.co.jp and click the youtube link
If you fellas didn't catch yesterdays k-1 event, it was banger. Watch the replay on abema or wait for the fights to get uploaded to youtube. Definitely worth a watch
>>231159Man I was really impressed with Yoza. Unlike many of his countrymen he's pretty hard to hit clean
Reminder that the last k-1 event was a banger and all the fights are now on YouTube
Can he do it?
>>234511Well i had my doubts with Noiri against a seemingly unbeatable guy, now i'll believe anythingRooting for Yoza
>>234511Hard fight for Yoza. Petch pretty much nullified Akimoto, though Yoza is probably better than Akimoto. Our boy does have the advantage of being much younger than Petchtanong. I could see Yoza taking this one, but it's a hard fight for him
RISE World Series 2025 is on tomorrow, here are some of the fights to look forward to.
The full card is here: https://rise-rc.com/event/ouro-presents-rise-world-series-2025-yokohama/I think the event is a collaboration with Glory so there's a load of Euros on as well
just move to Sherdog already
Rise WS review by anon (with heavy spoilers)Reiji is really good. Defense on point. He was landing better shots the whole time and looked sharp until that left hook shut his whole body down at the end of the 1st. While he was scoring more it felt like Kato was just waiting for a good opportunity to throw heavy shots, which he eventually found. Kato won the round based on last few seconds. In the second he landed another left hook, this time as a counter, to end the fight instantly. Beautiful match by two exciting skilled fighters.Chappy vs AbikoGoofy meme fight, fun but low levelYuki vs KitaiMummified yuki following around the ring and getting countered. Discovered back leg low kicks in the 3rd.Suzuki vs ToitaSuzuki outbrawled and was always feel steps ahead of Toita both in shot selection and number of landed strikes. Very good performance despite getting rocked in the 3rd he recovered instantly and continued to dominate lol. Is he at 57kg now?Gump vs RyoGump brought pressure and excitement Hanaoka vs GhazaliStarted off competitive with the first round but by the end of the fight Hanaoka was teeing off in the pocket, especially with right hook to the body. Awesome combinations later on and cool spinning back kick. Hope we finally see him against Osaki this year.Will continue watching the rest of the card later Musashi vs RyoyaFairly slow paced fight, expected musashi to turn it up later
>>234930Good analysis anon
Noiri vs Superbon!
>>235180Oooopph boy. It's in a cage. Immediately doesn't bode well for our man
Finished rise, more spoilers review etc etcKan vs Yuki I first watched it live when I just woke up and had no idea who was winning so it wasn't a surprise it went to extra round. Rewatching however I'm pretty sure yuki did enough to win tho kan came back strong at the end of each round. I liked yuki's distance control, mix of front and calf kicks and later on good knees to the body and head, also great body attack in general with some powerful hooks and good combination work. Kan still had success throughout and none of that matters because the finish was so spectacular and most kan thing ever lol. 10/10 fight, easily most enjoyable fight of the night. Hyuma vs PengjieNot much output from either but I always liked the Pengjie style: tall and long, really slick southpaw counters. Not nearly as good as his previous win over Rida but he avanged his loss and the kd sealed the win. I hope kan beats him again but it will be tough (again). Can't wait.Bobo v JanJan did better than I expected, he had a good gameplan with inside low kicks but one small problem: the fucking reach on bobo lmao. He got touched up ever time with hands and took more damage but gave a good account of himself. Funny moment of the night: complaining about oblique kicks (twice) and kd tooAss vs. SpainGreat fight, very exciting I didn't know Spain but both are really good. Underwhelming name value in the tournament so far.Hiroki v LompetchHiroki didn't need to do much to pressurethe other Petch to the ropes and score with fast, powerful combos (kinda how chadd did against him ironically) but petch didn't look helpless, he had success with his southpaw weapons it just wasn't sustained long enough to make a difference.Morari vs Ito Typical morari fight, very boring Ryujin vs HamadaWatching it live it seemed like Ryujin was going thru the gears better especially when he found some powerful hooks to the body. Just keep him away from momo >>235162Glad you liked reading it anon
Can't wait for him to fight once every two years (but seriously that temu Dana White can't even get his fighters fights in their sports unless they're mt no names)
when is anpo going to have a proper fight again i miss him
>>235313He's too busy dicking around in Thailand
>>235275Chatri is such a twat. Absolutely useless as a promoter. The only reason one is even being mentioned is because retarded normies love seeing Rodtang hit himself in the head.
>>235274>I hope kan beats him againAgreed, Kan is really growing on me. I've really grown to appreciate that he's consistently finishing fights even though he can look a little retarded in the process
In other news, Noiri has announced a seminar at the end of july, if any anons are in japan at the time, consider attending.https://vasileus-gym.com/943/
my wife is fighting tomorrow
I didn't expect so much blood. That was awesome
>>235752ME NEXT!!
any good tutorial on the kickboxing calf kick? The one like Noiri and Yoza throw.
>>235684
>>236363I asked Takahagi about the calf kick when I trained in Japan. Mind you, I don't speak japanese, but what I gleamed was that for the outside calf kick, they tend to aim slightly above the ankle bone. He also demonstrated that they will often hit with the instep of the foot. As far as a proper tutorial, you're probably best off looking for something from a kyokushin guy, since most of them come from some sort of karate background.
>>190582Of japan, the only "combat sport" I like is KendoKorean TKD is far superior to anything Japan has, full contact wise
>>190582How is kickboxing injury wise? I want to stop bjj because i'm tired of having some joints always hurting. I'm not going to compete.
>>236871I think it depends on what sort of physical shape you're in. In terms of experience I can only speak for myself, I'm in terrible shape and my joints are weak so I get injured fairly often. I suspect if you're in ok shape it's not going to be as much of an issue. I've never grappled to I can't really compare. Most common injuries in kickboxing are generally going to be feet and hands. I think your joints are generally not going to be subjected to as many strange contortions in kickboxing as they are in bjj but they will see more impact.
>>236829Recommend some good Korean TKD fights
>>236829>Korean TKD is far superior to anything Japan has, full contact wiseKorean-American here. You're full of shit. TKD has nowhere near the history and victories that Japanese Kickboxing and Knockdown Karate has accomplished. TKD and Tang Soo Do has some nifty kicks, but unless you're Steve Vick, Serkan Yilmaz, or Hassan Kassrioui, who were blessed with talent and athletic ability to keep spamming those kinds of high-flying attacks. It's better to stick to fundamentals and then sprinkle in flashy moves. Japanese Kickboxing and Knockdown Karate constantly evolves and refines itself since the 1960's when they adapted from Muay Thai. Then they encountered US Full-Contact Karate (long-pants US Kickboxing) in the 1970's, then Dutch Kickboxing (which in itself is partly derived from Japanese Kickboxing & Knockdown Karate) in the 1980's, Sanshou in the 1990's, and various other fighting styles. The Japanese have their share of losses of course, but they have a respectable track record. They also had the balls to go to Thailand since the 1950's (first Muay Thai vs Karate encounter) and test themselves against the dangerous Southeast Asian style of kicking with shins and clinching with knees/elbows.
Where to watch Boxing Japan matches ?????
>>236985www.boxingjapanmatches.jp
>>236978I've fucked up my knee a bit kicking pads held wrong. Every now and then my right knee would feel loose kicking. That's why I have a killer left kick lol>>236622I've been kicking with the side of my instep
Need
>>236871It's less common but they tend to be more painful.
>>237226I want her rematch with Aki. It's time she gets her ass kicked
>>192508Japanese kickboxing follows K1 or modified K1 rules, there are elbows clinching or knees. Some organisations will allow knees out of the clinch but that's it.
>>190582Of course, who doesn't? Jkick is based
>>237883>kick :(>kick, japan :D
YOZA ABOUT TO FIGHT GET IN HERE!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mQ3fupfbeA
>>238068Eat feet faggot
Read it and seethe Thaicels
I wonder what will it take for gyms outside Japan to start teaching Jkick style stuff. Most gyms just default to dutch style shit from 40 years ago. You'd be lucky to find a gym that teaches good classic muay thai. I guess you're on your own if you wanna move like Nadaka or Yoza
>>238686is nadaka even j kick? he's just looks like a fast and technical southpaw preferring to stay at range compared to other jap kickboxers who likes pressure and forcing counters. Nadaka even uses his left knee like a thai southpaw to stuff forward boxing pressure, not that he has to use that much his rear kick and left hand down the pipe keeps the range well
>>238695>is nadaka even j kickWell, he is J and he kicks...
>>238695To me his rhythm feels more jkick than thai
>>238718Dany Bill and Jerome Le Banner are both French but they are nothing alike. Nadaka trains muay thai his whole life, albeit with a jap flare.
>>238842Rhythm doesn’t feel anything different to sittichai kick rhythm if he was etherweight. Boxing it’s straight shots, doesn’t commit too much, pull out or angle out like a southpaw
God I need her
>>238686Jkick is really catching on lately. Yoza especially since signing with ONE. That Micah B guy has started stealing some Yoza moves recently. I don't expect you'll find it in many gyms, but certainly more now than a few years ago.>>238695I think the fact that Nadaka has good hands in the current era of MT is a sign that he's more jkick than MT. He's also fought in Shootboxing and Rizin>>238895If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike. Unlike Sitthichai, Nadaka is able to put on a fun fight and score a finish
>>238929WHO
>>238932Miyuu Sugawara, former K-1 and Krush champ
>>238930His whole life he trains muay thai and fights in the rule set, has 1 fight for rizin. I don’t think his boxing is much better than haggerty. Foreigners in muay thai have been bringing hands into the game for a while. He control angles like petro, just a southpaw game. Kicking rhythm and selection is the same as sit. Southpaw kicker game. Mfw no calf kick no karate kick no heavy forward pressure with a high guard still j kick
it's happening
>>239114KICK HIS CALVES KICK HIS CALVES
>>239191superlek can jab him before he's in range for the calf kick. Ridiculously long arms
Rise ws, a short review by anon (again)Osaki vs some ThaiWhile it didn't start off like a brutal beat down it developed into one not long after and you can add another overmatched opponent to osaki's list of victims. He is doing this instead of fighting hanaoka. Ok.Hanaoka vs momuMomu is one of those fighters who instantly finds his range and is looks comfortable right away. Watching him fight can be frustrating because he is clearly capable of more than he shows and while he easily won round 1 he started to slowly melt when Ryu stooped giving ground and stated countering more as he kept up the pressure. Expected but disappointing :(Seido fightThough it would be funny if he won and he did some good work like that one really good counter hook in round 1 or 2 but not enough volume. The ancient journeyman win streak is over.Rasta vs autoCool knockout by Rasta who looked really good up until the finish with his movement. Maybe he should get a step up fightYuraQuick, impressive ko with a counter right hand. Just how good is taio asahisa?Saing vs AasilaVery fun scrap which iirc was quite competitive throughout tho the winner was very much clear Yutaro asahi vs Spanish guyYutaro has one of most unique styles you will see as he is a southpaw mostly using his lead leg to land side kicks and keep the distance. This fight was a bit different and he was landing a lot of hooks and looking for lunch counters. Awesome fight and knockout was spectacularWosik vs suarekBest fight of the card imo, wosik did what he always does and kept that pressure up. Suarek had some success but it wasn't nearly enough. Lovely calf kicks and hard body jabs by wosik. How doesn't he score any knockouts?Taiju shiratoriThe English lad came out fast and soon met a from kick to the body which ended his night. Feed taiju to chadd next as he is one of the few decent japs he didn't already beat
Rise part 2 and beyondChadd vs kentoGoing in I thought kento would either win by a quick ko (unlikely given how insanely durable chadd is when fighting anyone not named Miguel Trinidad) or it would be a dominant chadd decision (maybe even a late stoppage, either way it would keep getting worse as kento gets more tired). And both of those kinda happened lol. Chadd looked like a fish out of water in round 1 but as soon as round 2 started he looked like the same guy who beat up petch and stopped so many good opponents in recent years. Round 3 was his most dominant round yet one judge scores it 10-10 or 10-9 kento (I forgot) which was crazy incompetent. What a fight. I'm very excited for this featherweight tournament but what is really love is for chadd to rematch petch as I still think he should be the favorite. His style is all wrong for petch just like Miguel seems to be all wrong for him. On the other hand petch has few option on the glory side of the bracket. We know he won't face peposhi next (although that would be epic) but he could get one of other 2 intriguing match ups: bobo sacko or wosik. Sacko in particular would be a great option given his streak and mt background. I would say wosik would be a horrible match for petch if I didn't see him struggle so much with sacko completely neutralized him albeit with a lot of clinching. Which petch isn't a stranger to and he is equally good if not better at keeping the range so it may be an easy night? But I can still see it being hard due to wosiks pressure and combination work down the stretch Tenshin 2.0 vs jinJin loses to another highly touted fighter but doesn't look out of depth at any point. Closely contested scrap.
>>236363https://youtu.be/4D3522R0njw
>>239667>>239665Good stuff as always anonI really hope Ryu gets to fight Kazuki. Kazuki hasn't fought anyone good in a while.I did think their fights were soured a little by the glove change though.Kento vs Chadd was incredibly fun, one of the best in a while. Tournament is going to be sick.
>>239668Yoza is mainstream now. Whose moves do I steal now to make myself appear better than I am in sparring?
>>239990Find another "niche" jap fighter from jap promotions
>>239990Andy Hug's axe kick but be controlled and land with the ball of foot. Also spinning leg kick. If you can do it safely without being an ass
