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Hurr fist go boom boom and then brain damage
>>197798how long would it take to get brain damage from amateur boxing and training?sometimes I get hit pretty well and see the small tv static white dots, it's a rare occurrence tho, but in general from sparring and getting punched anyway aside from brain damage/cte you can get rekt in other ways just training as an amateur, I know a couple guys from my gym that fucked their shoulder and needed surgery, I myself got a detached retina from an unlucky punch that landed entirely on my eye passing through the helmet, and got some light injury to my shoulder that lasted a week where I couldn't wipe my ass with it, or threw a hook that landed with my thumb bone on the elbow of the opponent and got swollen as fuck for 3 weeks, it happened again today but much less intense itll get good in a few days, and just the other day I got a similar unlucky punch in the other eye but it also hit the rest of the face so not as much energy went into the eye luckily, but I still got a very faint light flash in my eye like when my retina detached, just that it is almost imperceptible while the other time it was very visible.
>>197831Go do a style that excludes head strikes or something if you're that worried. Truth is you probably get it from the get go, but the damage is accumulated. Hopefully you learn good head movement before it matters.
>>197831a detached retina is brain damage, don't push your luck my dude
>>197859I've boxed for 3 years and now I re started 1.5 months ago, i dont want to do other shit just want to know how this brain damage stuff works
>>197876Getting hit in the head is badOnly you can decide how much is worth itFor me it was learning the basics and having one amateur fight
>>197876Well then, you know what you have to do. Get really good at avoidance, blocking, and counter striking. Make it your mission to master head movement & punishing anyone who goes hunting for it.
>>197775>just started sparring again>significantly larger than anyone at my gym>coach always tells me to keep the power down because of the weight class difference>always do, sparring is practice, don't want anyone to get hurt>didn't really mind, have a good jab so I can keep most people away>fight a guy I haven't seen before >"keep the power down, but he can fight!">lol okay, jab time>slips my jab and hits me somewhere in the chest>entire body locks up, chest becomes stone>still standing, but I cannot stop myself from making this 'HHHHHHHHHHHH' sound >feels like my lungs got paralyzed on an exhale and I can't adjust the rate of air leaving my body>coach stops the spar, gives me time to breathe>chest finally unlocks can breath normally again>coach starts the spar again>he hits me in the exact same way>'HHHHHHHHHHHH'>lungs don't work>proceed to get my shit beat in>next guy bigger than the last, still significantly lighter than me>proceed to get my shit beat in by this guy as well>both these people are throwing their heart out>I'm over here pulling my right to prevent hurting anyone>only 20 seconds left in the last round does my coach tell me to up my power>as soon as he says this the guy is tripping over himself to get out of my rangebrosI have been hit in the body so much I essentially disregarded any body damage, even the heaviest hitters didn't really hurt that bad. That fucking hit to the chest didn't even hurt, it just disabled my fuckin organs. Guy said he intended it to be a liver punch, but it didn't hurt, so that can't be it. I have no idea where he hit me or how that worked, but he obviously knew what he was doing because he did it twice in a row. Fuckin sucks, is it over for me bros?
>>198249once he started beating you you should've started to fight properly and stop pulling your punches, sound like a liver shot but usually those hurt so idk.why would it be over, it's good that you found some guys that pose a challenge to you, if you're always fighting guys that are weaker than you you'll never learn shithow tall are you? what's your weight?
>>1982566'4", 280, so it's pretty rare I ever see someone at the gym near my size.I agree that if you never fight anyone better, you can't learn. Essentially everyone I've sparred is better than me mechanically, so I really enjoy seeing some of the moves people pull. I've gotten the privilege of sparring some professionals in the past, and I've learned a lot each time I get a chance. Unfortunately, I find my sparring to be mostly pulling punches because I outweigh everyone so much. I've landed a straight on someone when I intended no power behind it and it nearly knocked him out with a helmet on. It feels bad when we're supposed to be working with each other. I'm big enough that with good form, any punch is dangerous. The reason I ask "Is it over?" is because I feel like I'm at a crossroads. Stop pulling punches so much, and potentially hurt my sparring partners at the gym, or sacrifice my own growth and brain health and just roll with it. I can't gauge whether the punches people are throwing are just matching the weight of my jab or if they are just throwing this hard because I'm in a higher weight class. I can take it, as much as anyone else like taking a punch, but it is frustrating to not be able to dish anything back until I get the go ahead.
>>198261just go technical and then if they start going hard go hard in return, they will either give you more respect or keep pushing in which case you're in for a nice slugging talk about it with your coach tooI'm 5"7' 170lbs, I usually spar guys my own size or bigger, like 6" 180/187lbs, atm I just re started after a long time off, I used to be in the amateur fighting team at my gym years ago before stopping, I noticed that my coach makes me work with the top guys from my course bc all the others aren't good enough, and in the end only one was hars for me, the others I didnt dominate, but I was better, which annoys me bc I feel I didn't do well enough against them.but the really tough guys are in the other course, where the fighting team is.months ago I went for a couple lessons, and I noticed that even if I was a lard that hadn't worked out for a year, when I sparred some randos in the gym I still had enough technique to bust them up because they were just "casuals" that didn't take it that seriously, some guys may have been going to the gym for 1 or more years but just treat it as fitness, while others have been going for just 6 months and they're much better, like the guy I said that gave me problems in sparring
>>198265I appreciate the advice.
Signed up for boxing, gonna start this thursday, what am I in for?>t. 6' 330lb dude
>>201548Gas out learning to sit behind your jab. Once you do, you're gonna be a problem.
>>201573Idk what that means but it sounds sweet. I have pretty good stamina for my size, probably still gonna hack up a lung the first time I assume.Also, I do powerlifting and archery, does any of that carry over to punching power?
>>201578Unless you've been doing a bunch of sled dragging for GPP, don't expect much carryover of anything at first. Even the shoviest of punches still had more whip to it than the typical pressing movements of weights. Having sturdy legs will help long term, but at first everything is going to feel very strange, and more likely a temporary hinderance.
>>201579I would imagine that having stronger legs and back would lead to being able to punch harder once you have the technique dow no?
>>198249 He probably hit you in the solar plexus.
>>197775I practice muay thai, I noticed that I don't punch properly without gloves, gloves give me more area and it seems like I punch well, but when I practice without them I look like a noob.TLDR, how do I practice better punching without gloves?My idea now is to just practice pun ching without gloves and focusing on little targets. maybe marking a column to punch or something
>>197831>>197831>static, flashes of light>detached retinaNever experienced this in all my years. You need to find a new sport>>201718If your take off your gloves and your punches look bad, you have bad form and just haven't realized it yet. You should start by having your coach correct the issue and should also devote some of your training time to work without gloves
>>201718Might be helpful to put just your wraps on so you have a similar tension in your hands, giving you a feel to judge from as well. Potentially even doing it bare, wrapped, and wrapped w gloves for contrasting.
>>201548don't fucking give up. it took me two years and 100lbs but I was in your position and not giving up is the hardest part.
>>201726Yeah, I've been lifting for half a year pretty seriously now, I'm a pretty self concious guy for obvious reasons, but I've been trying all the hobbies I dreamed of doing as a kid and I've been pretty good at all of them and people generally weren't as mean to me as I expected, so I've been emboldened. I'm gonna get down to 230lbs this year for sure.
>>201720>>201722thanks. any videos on how to improve punch? I'm afraid of searching this stuff on youtube because anyone is a master there and gives bullshit advice, but maybe there's some boxer here that can suggest me a good one
>>201737Skillr boxingthe modern martial artistAndrii Khotin
>>201726I went today, it was tough but fun. My lead shoulder tired out super quickly, I sweat so much I kept slipping on my own sweat trying to do pushups and tbe hardest parts aside from cardio were footwork and keeping my hands up, also trying not to vomit.
>>201856If they have a bucket, don't be afraid to pop. More often than not, you'll feel better after. Just clean off and go right back to working.
Question for home gym, if I were to only get two types of hanging punching bag which ones should I get? I'm thinking a double end bag and a teardrop bag would probably be the best.Am I correct in thinking the teardrop bag would be better then a heavy bag?Also, regular teardrop bag vs aqua bag?
>>201956If you're looking to maximize movement, that's a good combo. Depending on your class/power and the weight of the bag, tear drops can be pretty mobile. Get a few different length solid cords for the double end, and one adjustable. The tension differences will let you play with how much bounce it has, and if it's loose enough some wobble that will keep you on the move. Hit up your local hardware store for different swivels that will change the action of the bag too. More spin if you wanna be accurate, no swivel if you want to get wacked if you're in the path on the rebound. Be mindful of ceiling height and weight ratings for everything too.
>>201959Okay I don't know what's up but it's impossible to find a teardrop boxing bag for sale anywhere near me, so would a water bag like this work?
>>201978I've never used a water bag sorry. I've never heard anything bad about that brand, but I imagine the physics of it make things much different from any standard filling.
I've started this recently and I have a question. After I have the basics down, should I try and learn the peekaboo style? I'm shorter(6'0" and same reach) but I have a very large frame, there is no way I'm cutting weight all the way down to cruiserweight, so generally the guys I'll be going against will all be way taller then me, so I'm thinking peekaboo would suit me well.
>>202172There are probably 3 or 4 people in the world that can train you in a real peekaboo style. Stick to the fundsmentals until you demonstrate some talent newfriend
Can anyone reccomend some cheap aliexpress gloves that are okay? I mostly see kickboxing, MMA and sanda gloves despite searching for boxing gloves and the ones that are for boxing never say how many oz it is.
>>202295Yeah I'm focusing on learning orthodox first, but once I have the essentials down couldn't I self learn peekaboo?
>>202320Why not just legitimate gloves? You don't need to break the bank for some beginner gloves.
>>202368Even the cheapest proper gloves (12oz Outshock) is like 4 times the price of a Sanda glove so I'm wondering if those are shit or not.
What kind of boxing gloves are these? I ordered a double and bag and these came with it. One glove is like 6.45oz and the thumb is not padded, I think it's probably a bag glove right? I don't know what the straps on the wrists are for tho.
>>202511Babbys first bag gloves at that. They're sold with kids bags and very cheap full size with the expectation that they're either never really gonna get used or you're too poor to do anything about it. You'll wear them out within 3 months of bog basic work.
>>202324Yes and noYou could emulate the style, but you'll be self-learning which is always spotty at best. And eating a lot of punches. Focus on head and foot movement; Peekaboo is a defensive style, not an offensive style.Look up Madhooker on YouTube for some tips, but be aware you'll be relying heavily on Orthodox/Southpaw until you're National Champion level, and by that point you"ll have your own style that works anyway.
>>202514I got a regiular double end bag and these are adult size, thes have more slace inside then regular gloves. They definitely are shit quality tho.
5'9, 63 inch reachis trying this sport worth it?
>>202607Why not? There's been t-rex arm champs before.
>>202511>>202514Looks like those really old style bag gloves they had back in the Jack Dempsey days.
How many years does it take to get good at boxing?
>>202837There are weekend warrior amateurs that become killers inside of a few years. There are 20 year professionals would couldn't hit a heavy bag if you threw it at them. Boxing isn't really a time thing like that.
imma Dempsey roll you what are you gonna do about it?
>>203066You'd probably just get countered.
How do I wash my wraps without fucking up the velcro?
>>203113Either by hand, or in the mesh drawstring bag they probably came with in the washer and nothing else prone to lint shedding. Hang dry either way so the glue the velcro is on with doesn't melt.
>>203122Okay, is it safe to run the velcro under water and get the detergent in it when I'm hand washing?
>>203124Yeah as long as you're not running it hot as fuck. Soak in lukewarm water + cleaning agent, then scrub clean. Just know this process gets real fucking old, real fucking quick.
>>203125They're only 3m ones so it should be fine.
>>203113Put them in a pillow case. I have washed my wraps countless times and they are just as sticky as when I first purchased them. Do I just need to step in more to score more hits? I am an out fighter and almost never fight in the pocket. I have used footwork to escape from the ropes several times to avoid fighting in the pocket. Is this my mistake?
Boxing gym is closed for a bit, can anyone reccomend some good beginner boxing tutorials I can do at home? I've ordered an aqua bag and a double end bag but until they arrive I can only shadowbox and drill footwork.
>>204192Even as an outfighter you'll need to engage in the pocket occasionally, you want to get a sense of their pattern and look for openings to catch them off guard, dart in to get a few hits in, maybe aim for a counter then move back out.
recently i've decided to start training my legs in a similar fashion to how i train my shoulders so that they don't get tired, i know that running is supposed to help build up the endurance but some extra work cant hurt.it's three times a week and what I do is 50 squats, 1 minute wall sit, and then 50 calf raises. I do this 3 times, and plan on adding more squats so i'd always be reaching 200.am i retarded and should i stop doin this or is it actually helping out my endurance, i have noticed that i can sit on my punches a lot easier now, and for way longer, but i've also been running more.
>>198265dude how's your build, im 5'8 and 140, and even then i could lose 10 more pounds if my coach needs me to
What are some good books to read about boxing? History? Technique? Etiquette? That kind of shit. Oh same with podcasts.>inb4 just train retard you don't need booksI'm going on a long flight soon and I'd like some boxing media to consume. I'm new to boxing by the way, I plan on joining a local group after my trip. Anything you guys wonna say to help me out? Thanks.
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I realize this is dumb, but. When rotating the hip into a punch. What does the foot do, exactly? Does it always turn on the ball? I prefer to stay flat footed, but I have a feeling it will murder my knees.>>205116Dempsey is good for newbies.
>>205673Depends on the punch. Depends on the foot. Depends on the weight distribution. Depends on the direction of movement. Depends on the way you naturally hold tension to stay upright. Depends on how far your stance is splayed out relative to your hips. I'm probably forgetting 12 other things.Some guys are gumby bodies and still hurt their knees. Some guys lock up like Frankenstein and have problems anywhere but. Work through your punches slowly. Pay attention to where the torque is on your sole, and turn your hip a little bit more than usual. If your knee is turning, try to release the from the heel. If you can't, you're probably driving from the heel where you may not mean to and that will tend to damage the knee over time.
>>197775> get called to a sparring> i got the amateur card recently so 0 fights fought> i know i am getting beat up but at least i practice and i see the level i though> they guy i fought had a record of 14 fights all won by knockout> tell the trainer that i am very untrained since i hadn't train in the last two months and started training again that week> he tells me it's ok and the sparring starts> the other guy feints the punch to start the fight and hit me in the face> most of the sparring couldn't do shit since the other guy outsmarted me in speed power and skills> he knows he has the upper hand and doesn't hold back a little> the most signifcant hit i could land was a left to the solar plexus that actually pushed him instead of hitting him> the first round finish and the trainer tells me if i want to continue and i say internally fuck this i am not gonna be this guy punching bag> parents of the guy start laughing after i leave the ring and some boxers come to comfort me saying i did good that means it was horrible> some other guys fight and the opponent that rocked my shit fight a professional that came from other town> he beats the professional in points and start to celebrate with his friends and parents> then i realised that i was called only to make a fool of myself and to make this guy looks good before he had to fight the professional> i get a second fight vs a girl my weight that goes all out just like the first guy but this time i fight good and i fell my counters hurt her making her trhow agressive combinations> this time i fight the 3 rounds of the sparring and actually feel like this fight was more balanced> after that i leave since there were no more fights that day> no new messages from the trainerAfter all this i think i have a broken rib and i think i won't go or talk to this gym again so this is the end of my amateur career. The worst thing is that the guy i fought had a gay sacrifice mark from berserk as a tattoo.
>>211546Same as it ever was
>>211549yeah well when that guy don't get cherry picked fights against boxers with 0 fights that his daddy can pay he will get destroyed by a fighter of his same level
>>211550>>211549
>>211546Some gyms have golden boys, its the law of nature.Just work hard and carve your own path, never be offended, your own ego is your biggest enemy, just learn to keep your mouth shut and work very hard, only open it when you're 100% sure the words coming out of your mouth are not to your own detriment.
>>211546>>211652Also don't give up because of a minor setback, i'm a skinny kickboxer faggot generally due to fast metabolism, got the rona in 20 20 fucking 4, lost around 5-10 kg in that weak and melted to nothing, a week before that nearly snapped my tibia.You're an autist, autism gives your reflex superpowers, hyperfixation and learning, just keep at it nigga.The man who gets down isn't the loser. The guy who can't tought it out to the end, he's the one who loses. -Daisaku Kuze Look at yourself five years from now, you really want that pinch of regret eating at you for abandoning ship?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7R_xQUiZvg
>>205116Books:Championship Fighting by Jack DempseyVideos:Learning to Box with a Professional Boxer by Kostya Tszyuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LknTfs6ESJc
I signed up for the boxing society at my college, is there any possibility of brain damage like they say? And is it a good sport if I'm aiming to get lean, not big?
Where kind I find hanger attachments to add to a squat rack? Not finding many examples.
>>212792Rogue's shrimp trawler with a shackle accessory. Believe it comes in monster, m lite, and infinity sizes. Make sure you bolt your shit down to the floor.
>Thinking about getting a quest for thrill of the fight and beatsaberIs this shit actually fun? Is it good cardio?
>>197775How do you get good at boxing?
I'm a big strong fuck, 265lbs, lift heavy as shit. If I start boxing, can I learn to reliably KD people with one or two punches and move around fast so that I can protect me and my family from groups of gypsies?
>>212911I think it’s really fun. You pick up the patterns the ai use once you play it a bunch but it’s still nice to have a target to move against. I still have a wired headset so I can’t move much :/.
>>213737you are fat as fuckfork putdowns and cardio
>>197775>punches you really hard
How often do you guys go to the gym? I'm going to start upping it from 3 times a week (1 hour) to 5 times a week. Do you think this will make a large difference in my levels of fitness and ability?
>>214306Depends what your rounds look like. 5 days of hard sparring is probably not gonna go well. 5 days of bags and pads is gonna be a breeze if you're not really fat or something.
Literally pissed myself in my sleep because my brain could not get me up from my deep sleep lmaoo. Been training 6 days a week for almost 2 years now and I'm always sleepy whenever I'm not doing anything. I've literally passed out while riding my bike multiple times and hit vehicles in front of me. I can not manage my routine to get more sleep when I actually haven't been getting up early to run since past week.
5"8, 180 lbs, just turned 34, I'm in decent shape and about to join a boxing gym in two months with zero experience.In the meantime I'm doing insanity max 30 and dig deeper to get conditioned while I slowly buy gear and equipment to practice at home too.Anything I should know? How does free gym use even work? Will coaches only help you on one on one lessons and group classes? Will I even learn to really box from the group classes considering everyone is at a different level? Do I HAVE to get 1 on 1 classes if I wanna actually learn?
>>214559Insanity is pretty good actually I remember doing it like 15 years ago and running circles around all the other boxers who got up at 5am on saturday to do a meme 15km rocky type run because that is what coach thought is required for endurance.You don't have to get 1 on 1 classes but you have to do your homework. I learned NOTHING during group classes, watch youtube, read books, then apply what you learned in group classes. Don't obsess over form or "styles" like cuban or slavshit, just rationally think about what seems like it will work and try it out. 1 on 1 is highly dependant on if your coach is not a retard (he probably is a retard unless he is putting out ppl who actually compete well). Get a wrist roller and a neck harness and train the shit out of your forearms and neck. Every other day 6x15 with short breaks worked well for me.
>>214770Yeah, I've done insanity on and off for about 15 years, it's an amazing programThe gym I'm joining actually has a few people that fight professionally and win, some even undefeated so far so I'm guessing they have good coaches.What YouTube channels would you recommend for a complete beginner?Also thanks a lot, I'll add those to my buy list. Do coaches help you out if you're just using the open gym though?
>>214884There's this black dude with dreads wearing a blue shirt that explains basics very well. He runs seminars or something, they're on youtube. I don't remember his channel name unfortunately. Generally look for channels that explain concepts, not "put your foot specifically HERE and your other foot specifically THERE at THIS SPECIFIC ANGLE" details. I remember liking Jack Dempsey books a lot.Otherwise focus on grasping basic concepts - how to move and stance, how to block/dodge, how to place power in the strike, specific strikes, preferably in that order. Then specific drills and combos. >do coaches help youDepends on the coach, some are lazy/don't care about you, some will try to help, even if a coach HAS to train you by gym rules, he can just tell you to do a list of combos and then go sleep on a bench (happened to me at an open gym).
>>214884>What YouTube channels would you recommend for a complete beginner?NTA but i always liked:Fran SandsSparta boxing academyBazooka Joe (actually not a boxer, but you can learn a lot from him)Coach AnthonyWorld class boxing channelShort boxing (not exactly basics, but some of the concepts they talk about in this channel are really good)I also loved to watch tutorials by Bas Rutten (again, not a boxer, but you can learn from him)Best of luck on your journey, anon.
my boxing stance and weight allocation sucks big time.can someone give me any tips or links to youtube?I don't like searching videos on youtube myself because anyone can create a channel, name it BoxerMaster and give shitty advice.
>>216167i havent boxed a day in my life but it's obvious that you need a physical teacher instead of seeking advice on reddit dot com, homo
>>216209you fucking idiot, I'm already training, I want other sources an information because I might get some good advice.
