Shit Components Edition >FAQ on buying a bike that nobody reads anyway:> What good bike can I get for under $500?a stolen bike. Possibly a newer used entry level hardtail but don't expect it to survive rock gardens, jumps, or drops. Or an older mtb which won't be as good as newer ones and will still have a front derailleur, but it'll be good enough.> What good bike can I get for under $1000Good used hardtail, new entry level hardtail> What good bike can I get for under $2000?New Hardtail, decent used full suspension> What good bike can I get for under $3000?https://www.yt-industries.com/fr/produits/velos/capra/uncaged-10-al/602/capra-mx-uncaged-10/Used full suspension, decent entry level full suspension but prepared to put more money into it.> What are the excellent value brands?Marin, Commencal, Canyon, Polygon, YT, Propain, Kona, and many more. Sometimes the expensive brands have an excellent alue bike> What are the differences between an XC, Trail, Enduro, and Downhill bikes?XC bikes are for going up fast, go down not as fast. Trail bikes are for going up and down. Enduro bikes are for going down fast, and slower up. Downhill bikes are for going down really fast, needs a ski lift, truck, or the rider pushing it to go up.>Link to previous thread >>198870
Crankbrother's pedals gave me a headache last year with their play + shit servicing so I bought another pair as it was cheaper than changing bearings after getting the bearing kit. These still came with play out of the box and were torqued to spec already. I tried to service them today with the kit I bought last year, and the screw ripped in 2 and is stuck on the axle. They are made in chink factories with absolutely no regard for any kind of tolerances, they are screwed tight and still have play in them and to shit on you they use the thinest screw with the most malleable metal so that when you try to open it up, the screws stays in the axle and they get to fuck you. I now have to use the previous pedals. I, surprisingly, was in a good mood today till I tried to service them after work. I'm still debating on how I can justify 200€ on a damn pair of pedals, Chromag Daggas. Like absolutely no manufacturer makes wide metal pedals. They all focus on either super long or super thin. How fucking hard can it be to do cheap sub one hundo pedals that are 115mm wide. I don't believe 90% of grown men wear shoes under size 10US/ 40 yuro to justify having pedals measuring 95mm in width. I don't even have wide feet. They are exactly 100mm wide and 28cm in length while standing up. Now add proper MTB shoes and you easily go over the width manufactures give. Q factor
>>208372I'm sorry to hear that you're just now learning about the low quality of CreakBros>cheap sub one hundo pedalsMy favorite flats are deity decoys that I got for $100 cad, but this was before kung-flu money printing. They're still totally solid, and I haven't had to service em at all. Their new stuff is pretty good as well from what I hear.>They are exactly 100mm wide and 28cm in length while standing up. Now add proper MTB shoes and you easily go over the width manufactures giveIt's generally accepted that pedals slightly thinner than your shoes help prevent pedal strikes without sacrificing support or grip.
>>208372I think the average shoe size for a man is ~8.5
>>208372I'd recommend nukeproof sam hill dh pedals but I don't think they're made/sold anymore. crankbrothers pedals always felt terrible to me because of the inboard bearing lump.
I put my Wreckoning into X-LOW and put the wild enduros back on. I'm going to Mammoth Mountain Bike Park next monday and this will be my first ever DH park. I've heard the soil described as "kitty litter" so I had to put my grippiest tires on. I've had the flipchip set to LOW so I had to test out this new configuration at Santa Cruz. I didn't really notice anything tangible but I wasn't able to clear a steep uphill turn and I think the bike felt more stable on the steeps. Really hard to tell because these tires are heavier and grip more than the maxxis tires I took off, and the trails were more blown out than the last time I was here.
>>208429Never been to mammoth, but I used to go to northstar and the dirt looks similar. Which would be fast, lowish grip, jagged rocks. If there are deep patches of that kitty litter/moon dust like dirt you can go into it like sand.
>>208400Yeah, I remember from last year but the same pedals were very cheap. I'll be smarter this time. >It's generally accepted that pedals slightly thinner than your shoes help prevent pedal strikes without sacrificing support or gripThe thing is that shoes are big, the my impacts are 120mm at ball of the foot. The old freeriders are 110mm. These are wider than the decoys. >>208404Can't be. It must be taking into account jeets and SEA. And as we know, mtb isn't made for that demographic. >>208408They sank with CRC.>>208429Riding moondust with tall knobs doesn't seem the best idea, they'll be anchors
If you use the new skf seals, get a seal tool. It has an outer metallic race....I'm using a mallet, the crown race and a wrench to install them. I only did one, the crown race already has dents on the top lip. I can see myself already struggling to remove them in spring/summer next year.
got hit by a buick le sabre riding this thing today going 25, total t-bone went rolling over the ladies hood and rolling across the intersection. I covered like 5 yards of ground or more from where I was hit before I stopped, the bike was at least 10-15 yards further away from me. Verde builds these things like fucking tanks. I've had bikes you hit a curb and the forks will bend. Thing took a fucking buick le sabre on the chin and I rode it work and back and it's still straight as an arrow. Didn't even taco the fuckin wheel. The woman's bumper was all scratched and the panel that covers the tow hook mount was broken out. The car faired worse
>>208509ahhh shit, so you think I should have left the assegai and dissectors on to surf on top of the dirt instead? well the michelins are way more durable since I got the maxxis with the exo casing
I am so sad bros, i haven't hit a trail for almost two weeks now, my life is getting ruined!
>>208573Not him, but when I used to do it I went lots of knobs +closely packed. You don't need mud clearing/dirt clearing and you don't want knob squirm on fast berms or quick hardpack/rocky sections.
>>208573>assegai and dissectors on to surf on top of the dirt insteadBasically. But as you are going to a bike park you need a tough casing that keeps up without folding. Run exo and you'll end up denting the rim. It won't be the fastest but it will do the job while keeping the rim safe. Though on the front the WEs should be nice to run either way due to the grip. I used to ride in that(mamoth-socal)kind of terrain, gopros couldn't even show the trail as there was no contrast. I even ran with an ardent in the rear before going the dhF/R combo. We even had the same concrete tiles to prevent erosion and wear.
>You get better performance by doing your lower leg services slightly more often than recommendedOfficially fake and gay. Spend money on the skf seals. Before changing them, I removed the air and the lower's bolts. I tried to cycle it while clamped to the stand and there was significant resistance. I used both hand when I initially put them in. They came out with grease in the grooves so it wasn't a lubrication issue. After changing them, a single hand is required with minimal force. Even with 50 psi, a hand is enough to move the initial travel part. On riding, same settings. Smoother feeling off the top. Small street bumps are nothing which is what I initially disliked after putting the rockshox seals after replacing the green skf seals. It, once again, sags under the weight of the bike. Also, there's no excess oil left after cycling it. The ones that come with rockshox kit showed oil/grease lines even after the 2 rides I did. Older skf seals showed bit less oil/grease but none here. You're welcome for my nonsponsored shilling
>>208616your seal isnt seated in the fork properly
>>208429>I'm going to Mammoth Mountain Bike Park next monday and this will be my first ever DH park.Baste. Make sure to take breaks even if you don't feel too tired, it'll help keep the wrist pump away. Also, don't listen to the anons trying to spook you into using different tires. The tires you have are perfectly fine for the park, and it's not like you're competing in the world circuit anyways.>>208509>These are wider than the decoys.Ye, ideally the pedals are a bit thinner than the width of the shoes>>208616>It, once again, sags under the weight of the bike.I dunno anon, my pike does that with the stock black seals from rockshox that are also made by skf. The only fork I had that benefitted majorly from new seals is the 2011 era boxxer world cup on my old race bike. The new seals I used on it were also the black pike seals from rockshox. How old is your fork? It's possible its from the pre-skf stock seal era
>>208632Thanks for the advice. I want to get there at opening at stay as long as I can. Mammoth is a 6 hour drive from where I live, but I'm staying in Yosemite Valley for the weekend which is a 2 hour drive away so I figure why the hell not go? If I stay in the valley, I'm going to get lazy again instead of pedalling one of my drop bar bikes up Glacier Point Point Road like I was supposed to do last year.>>208611>>208614I'm not worried about the tires slowing me down, if anything, it'll save my brakes. I've ridden with these tires in mud and blown out dust and they still grip, I just don't want to slip and slide around when I'm trying to stop. I have a lot of bikes and tires so I don't wear through my tires quickly, but I'm thinking that Kryptotal F and Xynotal R with the enduro casing would be the winning combo for the next time I go.> but anon, get the downhill casing, it's betteryou're absolutely right...for the park. All of my riding is on trails and I have to earn my descents.
How is this dude a mtb YouTuber and still manages to weigh 350 lbs? he must run through a chain once a month
>>208808specialized marketing for the ebike market
Hello /xs, fitizen here.How much torque [Nm] can I put on my rear axle? Picrel is the opposite side of the head of the axle, so I don't think it is for the axle itself right?Bike: Canyon Torque AL 5 Mullet.
>>208814How are you applying load to it apart from tightening it into the frame?
>>208814does it not come etched on the axle what torque spec it should be?
>>208814seems to be 15nm from this manualhttps://www.canyon.com/on/demandware.static/-/Library-Sites-canyon-shared/default/dw552d3fdb/documents/customer-service/mountain-bikes/canyon-torque-quick-start-guide.pdf
Alright anons, I have a dilemma: I can get a new fox float x2 factory for $350, however it would reduce the travel of my frame from 140 to 120 mm. Should I rip it, or wait to see if i can get one with a longer stroke?
>>208874Using the wrong stroke length of rear shock can usually make the frame collide into itself on compression and obviously throw off all the intended kinematic properties, don’t use the wrong stroke length of rear shock.Underforking is safer, but this all seems kinda stupid in general, what’s wrong with your current shock? Are you getting this new shock for 80% off or something? What are you expecting here
>>208822Thank you!!
>>208874no. Do you have any issues with your current shock?
Well, got some sb3 grips, a bit thicker than the old ones I retired. Spent a day on the alps, holy shit. Fingers is kill. I'm putting back my ODI rogues. Gonna do back to back. Quite unfortunate as the new grips are cyan blue and look sick on the bike.
>>208893Thank you for the concern anon, but I know what I'm doing and I'm not concerned about frame compatibility and kinematics. I've discussed this with the guy that designed the frame as well. I just want to get some more opinions about giving up 20 mm of travel for a better shock at a cheap price. I use the bike mostly for trips to places with mixed riding like out in Quebec and BC, and want a shock with a little more survivability on bigger mountain rides>what’s wrong with your current shock?I'm the anon >>204254 that has the monarch that keeps blowing up when I take it to the park or on bigger mountain rides. Plus 200 x 57 mm shocks are a pain to come by these days, otherwise I'd just get one that's the same size. The x2 in question is 200 x 50 mm.>Are you getting this new shock for 80% off or something?Yes>What are you expecting hereA nice shock that works for a cheap price>>208951Yes, air keeps getting into the damper, and $350 is a good price for an x2 factory
>>208372Race face aeffect R slightly over the price you want but are the size you want.
>>208986>x2 factoryoh, that's the nice piggyback kashima one, and you are the dude with the fucked rockshox.I would send it. Do do some research on the X2's since I heard on the internet some of them might have had issues, but that might have been a different model.
>>209003They are on a good price actually ~100 yurobucks. 110mm length and 115mm width(same width as daggas). These are actually a good option. Service looks good with a hex rather than torque screw, do bearing last? Any play?
>>208986 >$350 is a good price for an x2Not when you are getting the 21-23 model, Fox had to redesign it and start replacing the entire thing for everyone with a warranty claim because they were constantly breaking irreparablyIt would still be a horrible idea even if you got it for $0 because now you have an xc bike with a linear dh shock and fucked up geometry. Best bet is probably a bomber cr or dps depending on frame kinematics
>>209054I have only run mine about 3 months riding about 2 times a week on average and they have been good. Mine didn't have play and still spin same as when I unboxed them. Race face has lots of colors and a lifetime warranty so I'd buy these again without worry.
Anyone have any experience with Spank's vibrocore handlebars? Do they actually do anything? After about an hour of trail riding with some jumps and down sections my right elbow gets strained and sore. I'm thinking maybe a more compliant handlebar could maybe help.
>>209169I have had a pair on my bike for 2 years, 800mm cut down to 750mm, 31.8mm diameter and 50mm rise. They are comfortable for me and I have never had issues with them. I dislocated my elbow and fractured my radius and ulna 2 years ago and currently have no issues or pains on the bike with these bars. I honestly couldn't tell you if the vibrocore does anything or its more the fact that its a skinnier bar with high rise as I came from 10mm rise 35mm easton carbon bars which I hated with a passion as my hands felt like they were being vibrated to death on descents. On the inside it just looks like they spray some sort of expanding foam through the centre of the bar which you could probably test yourself with your current set of bars. I would probably say better brakes are more important and could test quite easily with bigger rotors/different pads. Otherwise, higher rise bars would be the way to go as they move the weight rearward on your bike more onto your legs reducing the load on your upper body. Lots of people seem to shill OneUp carbon bars which might also be something to look into, I've never personally tried them so couldn't give you an opinion on them.
>>209016>>209084>X2s being warrantiedThanks for the heads up anons. After poking around some forums, it looks like fox will straight up replace it for the latest version for any warranty claim, even if it's not broken. I guess they really just want to move on from that shock lol. I wonder if they'd go as far as to send me a new one with the longer stoke length
Back from Mammoth. Turns out the Wild Enduros were the right tires for the conditions.The soil wasn't that loose, but we also got a freak weather storm this weekend which made it snow. The altitude hit me hard on the few very short climbs I did.Really cool park. I wish I could ride there more frequently but it's a 5 hour drive without traffic, I'll try to stay there for a week next year when mr. noseberg resets my vacation hours.I only went because I was two hours away in Yosemite Valley.It has something for everyone. I prefer natural singletrack, but I'm also a sucker for shark fins and other wooden features which we just don't have on SF Bay trails.If you're reading this and you're thinking about going, you only need to go halfway up the main gondola to get to the best stuff. It is worth going all the way to top of Mammoth Mountain just for the experience, but Off The Top and Eliminator just aren't fun. Off the Top is too easy, Eliminator is just bombing down a fire road at really high speed(I saw a video of a guy maintain above 60mph), and I chickened out and didn't ride Skidmarks because I was by myself on a weekday so I didn't want to risk wiping out on a double black that doesn't see much traffic. I think you only need a big dick enduro/freeride/dh biike if you're hitting the really gnarly trails or jumplines. I wish I was on my trail bike for the natural singletrack type trails.
>>209175Hmmm, I've actually never put much thought into rise, I'm sure that would actually give more compliance even without the vibrocore. Current setup is 10/15mm? rise, 30mm spacers, and then a 70mm easton steam. Given how much spacers I have, I'll look into the 30mm rise, variant, that Thanks anon.> I would probably say better brakes are more important and could test quite easily with bigger rotors/different pads. Heh, I'm one step ahead of you, my brakes almost cost as much as the frame itself.
>>209261You could also look into getting a shorter stem, 70mm is quite long nowadays, I'd say any modern bike is running 50mm max. The stem which I have paired with those bars is 35mm so quite short in comparison (along with 20mm of spacers/headset). Having a longer stem will also contribute to you weighting more on your arms/upper body and giving you pain.I also did some reading of reviews for vibrocore bars and most said the bars themselves were quite stiff, however the foam is basically removing the small high frequency vibrations which I can kind of agree with. Having a higher rise bar for me means that I end up moving around a lot more on the bike and allowing it to kind of move where it wants, it's really nice on steeper trails which are basically the majority of what I ride locally as you dont feel as much over the front wheel of the bike. You will just have to do some experimenting and find something which works for you.
>>209264I used to run something like a 30mm iirc, but I did a bike fitting (I dont know how much faith I should put in the one I went to but the guy had a lot of experience in mtb and bike fitting). The fitter suggested I was slightly a bit big for the bike, thus adjusted my seat, changed the angle of the bars, and switch to a 70mm stem, and adjusts spacers accordingly.Looking online, i did get the same idea as you. while minimal, vibrocore seems like it does offer more compliance aside from going full carbon.Overall yeah, as you said, i just need to do some more experimenting if I want. Could probably save some money and try out other stems lengths and degrees, than going out for a full vibracore
I did my first mountain bike race last weekend! I finished 6th of 18 riders.
>>209322Dh, Nduro or xc
>>208963>alpshigh five
>if you do short rides a soft saddle will be comfertable but if you do long rides you should pick a harder saddle because it will be more comfertableWho came up with this retardedness? And more importantly, why did it stick?>year bro I like to game for more than two hours at a time so I'm transitioning away from my soft chair and instead using a plank of 2x4 because it will be more comfertable
>>209355You came up with it, I see it right there on your post mr anonymous
>>209329Enduro, but a pretty mellow enduro. I rode a trail bike and there were some riders on hardtails. The stages were not nearly harsh enough to justify a true enduro bike. I had a great time chatting up other riders at the top of hills and shredding the timed stages like I was late for something. 10/10 would ride again.
>Got out for an early long weekend rideHow was your ride this week, anons?>>209236>I'll try to stay there for a week next yearYe, if you're travelling to a park, I find its nice to at least do a couple of days to get the most out of the trails.>>209322>>209389Checked and based. Enduro races can be bretty fun>>209355Checked. You basically want something soft enough to no destroy your sit bones, but not so soft it will cause chafing. Dunno who came up with your saying though lol
>>209351Unfortunately this weekend will be the last till 2025 as bike parks close for the season. Its joever>>209389>shredding the timed stages like I was late for something. 10/10 would ride again.Thats what I like of racing. Even if you try not to, you unconsciously push it while going DH. I discovered a line over some sketchy rocks by forgetting to brake and deciding to pull the bike and letting it plough.
>>209429>Unfortunately this weekend will be the last till 2025 as bike parks close for the season. Its joeverYeah, I know. A friend learned the hard way a few years back. But what is the reason anway? In DACH-region it seems the park owners try to open as long as the weather allows it. And are those branches put there to make the trails unrideable during the off-season? I kinda largely quit riding parks and rather try to sample primo dirt on trails that aren't blown out into oblivion.
Forgot to pick my fantasy team for world champs on both pb and vital. I blame the underwhelming painted bikes this year for forgetting along with the uci for their retarded schedule.
Final day of alpe dhuez. Rode all day till wrist pain became unbearable that even fireroads caused pain('ate brakin' bumps). Also found a new hidden trail for locals that takes you from the village to the bottom of the valley(1300m D-). It's all steep loamy forest singletrack. I was even sliding on pine cones. >>209488>But what is the reason anway?The rentrée and summer is "over". In France most people use most of their 5 week vacations in august and go back to work/school in september. Its literally empty in august where I live compared to the rest of the year. It's also the hottest so people don't go out generally.>In DACH-region it seems the park owners try to open as long as the weather allows it.Several if not most bike parks stay open only on the weekends after august till weather permits. PdS stays completely open till the 15th but well they are PdS. Alpe dhuez domain felt/was quite empty today, on one of the villages only a bike rental was open. After the redbull took effect I had remind myself that almost no one was riding to find me. >And are those branches put there to make the trails unrideable during the off-seasonThats my local. There was forestry work and the bastards never clean up afterwards, a good 100-200m fun section is unpassable as of 2 weeks ago. >I kinda largely quit riding parks and rather try to sample primo dirt on trails that aren't blown out into oblivionThats why you ride red&black(black&double black for NA) trails only, steep ones especially. Stormtrooper rentals get filtered along along with novice ones, no brake bumps at all. Add slabs and no one is riding it.
Hey what shin and knee pads are you guys wearing? I have little mini bike park near me and I am still kind of new to all this and I slipped a pedal today and although I didn't catch my shin or anything I saw how bad it could possibly be.
>>209552Cant go wrong with POC Joint VPD Air, or POC Joint VPD 2 if you want more coverage.As for shin guards, I'ts rare to see someone wearing shinguards, nor do I know which one to get. I used to want to get shin guards but was too lazy to actually commit to one. But eventually you actually do get better and pedal slippage starts to become a rare thing. I just long socks, those provide some minimal protection
>>209552I haven't used em in a while(not dh'ing or dj'ing) but I used to use older FOX knee/shin guards. Shit I would even do the whole chest protection+elbow too when it wasn't too hot.Make sure you get the right size, and accept another option for when it's hot. TBQH I can't cope with lots of padding over 90F+climbing
>>209573>>209552same anon as >>209570Same regards weather, i try to prioritize lightweight protection because I live in tropical country where 30C plus, and humid is fairly normal. I've even wore full everything, chest, knee, elbow, and In hindsight that was really stupid of me, almost passed out from the heat a few times and haven't done it since then. And yeah, if you can, try to try them on before buying, one thing thats always irked me is that MTB clothing, especially protection was always so god damn small. Its actually really difficult for me to find knee protection because I've got tree trunk thighs
800mm+ handlebars.
I have a commencal clash 27.5. It feels great on the rough stuff, very planted and stable, but it really lacks the playfulness on smaller features. I find it very hard to pick up the front end. Is this just me not putting in enough effort or suspension settings or something else. I have a float x2 in the rear with about 220psi in. 85kg.
>>209627Taller bars brudda
>>209627faster rebound and maybe stiffer spring in the fork, load the suspension more instead of yanking>>209603t. manlet>>209552Most brands have knees figured out by now so it's hard to go wrong, I use ixs flow and ion arcon LT which are both great for pedaling but the latter has more coverage. Shin guards aren't very popular, dunno if there is a reason for that but regardless the best prevention here would be to minimize the risk of coming off the pedals with good shoes, good positioning, and learning to avoid pedal strikes
>>2095702nd for the POC VPD pads. I've never been hurt when I crash on them. Regrettably, I rarely come down directly on them
>>209627It is you not putting in enough effort. You should be able to pick up the front end and manual on pretty much any bike. Except for maybe a road/gravel bike.it would definitely be harder on bikes with a longer chain stay but your bike doesn't have long chainstays. You could try running the bike with a stiffer spring rate so it doesn't dive as badly when you transfer your weight rearward. This would make it physically harder to manual but more playful.
>>209768Suspension dive from weight transfer is handled with more low speed compression damping, not spring rate. Pumping up the spring rate to fix the 10% of the time that you brake dive throws off the other 90% of the riding
>Bombing down trail at 50 km/h>* blocks your path*What's your move, Anon?
>>209821Brace myself low against the bike and simply prepare for the possibility of wheel crumpleHaving the appropriate bike helps
>>209821That looks small so I'll try to hop it.>>209827I wish bikes still had graphics like that.Here's my Yeti ARC. The only branding is on the top of the top tube and it says ARC on the seat stays.After visiting Mammoth Bike Park last week, I caught the bike park bug and now I'm thinking about going to Northstar on the 20th to celebrate my 32nd birthday. Still not 100% decided it since as fun as Mammoth was, I didn't enjoy it like I enjoy my favorite singletrack
>>209821
Why are air forks so popular for mountain bikes, when coil spring forks are so much more superior?Dirt bikes have known this for years. They tried to introduce them throughout the years, but they were never upto par with coil spring forks. Mainly due to air forks being progressive, as opposed to linear like coil spring forks are.Are they so popular because air forks are a ons-ize-fits-all solution due to them being progressive, but ultimately not optimized for anyone?I want to get back into mountain biking after 15 years, but all bikes with higher speced components seem to come with air forks.
>>209853I want my fork to be progressive. Drop in coil conversions are readily available for high end forks from push and vorsprung and are fairly popular among boomers on their midlife crisis-mobiles. Ohlins and fox marzocchi do coil forks and I would assume can sell you conversion kits
>>209853The two reason are weight (very important for stock builds, remember this weight will be advertised and used to compare to competition; this is also why brands put flimsy EXO tires on enduro bikes) and yeah, one size fits all ability (instead of pumping up your fork once or twice, you need to buy a new coil and swap it and hope it was the right weight)Don’t get confused, the performance is there and there’s plenty of benefits to a more linear-response long-travel fork, but an extra pound+ of weight and needing separate purchases for adjustments are dealbreakers to most buyers
>>209853The progressive vs linear thing is really not well defined at this point, there’s just as many pro riders out there wanting linear response as there are wanting ultra progressive response. Plenty of brands making podiums with both maximum suspension engineering with rollercoasters of force response graphs, and caveman-simple single pivots with a straight line as the graph. You kind of have to be intimately aware of how your suspension work at every 10% division of travel to know exactly whether you want more progressive or more linear response, in addition to overall spring rate too. And then of course maybe all your problems are damper-related, and not airspring-related, suspension can be tricky to pinpoint issues
I have 5 rides in total on this derailleur since it was installed and the pin holding the parallelogram to the b-knuckle decided to fall out during a descent and then completely destroy the entire derailleur along with it. Never seen or heard of this happening before so seems like just my luck. Should have paid the extra £20 and bought the XT instead...>>209853cheap for the manufacturer.
>>209821>>209838Yeah looks small so I would try and hop it, but fail and tag just the back tire, end up on my face and missing most of my teeth, maybe break my neck
>>209821Just jump it. If it's less than 2 feet I can jump it. It looks to be about 6" tall which is just enough to no roll over it. But you could also just hit it and use it to jump higher
should i buy a polygon siskiu t8/9? Trek fuel? Rift Zone 1? looking for an entry level full suspension. Will be riding at "hardwood ski and bike" and "Horseshoe Resort"New to the sport but want to get into it. Assumed it's better to buy a budget and upgrade rather than continuously renthttps://horseshoeresort.com/biking/https://www.hardwoodskiandbike.ca/summer-trails/
>>209938>Assumed it's better to buy a budget and upgrade rather than continuously rentDepends on how low budget, but the ones you listed would be ok. I wouldn't go for full suspensions that are any cheaper>From southern onterribleI'd suggest an RSD Wildcat 125. It's a smaller company, and they're located in toronto, so it's exceptionally easy to have any problems you have with the bike sorted out quickly. They're on sale for $1500 off, so the cheap build is ~$2400 and the more expensive one is ~$3100. You will not need to upgrade anything on either. I've had the original wildcat for 6 years now and it's been great. Only issue I've had was one of the bolts in the rear triangle was frozen, but they replaced the whole rear triangle under warranty the next day.Also, if you intend on continuing to mountain bike and do not already have plans to leave southern onterrible, be prepared to spend a bit on travelling to better riding destinations each year. Even just a drive out to quebec or sault ste marie will get you to trails that are leagues better than anything you'll find here
>FRAME MATERIAL - Aluminum Butted >FORK - Suntour XCR34 130mm>CRANKARMS - Shimano MT5100>B/Bracket - Shimano 73mm>CHAIN - KMC X11>FREEWHEEL - Shimano Deore 11-51t 11spd>R/Derailleur - Shimano Deore>SHIFTERS - Shimano Deore>BRAKE CALIPERS - Tektro HDM275 Hydraulic>BRAKE LEVERS - Tektro HDM275 Hydraulic>FRONT BRAKE ROTOR - Shimano RT10 180mm (centerlock)>REAR BRAKE ROTOR - Shimano RT10 160mm (centerlock)>HEADSET - Feimen HP-H868B>SEATPOST - TranzX Dropper>FRONT HUB - Shimano 110x15mm (centerlock)>REAR HUB - Shimano 148x12mm (centerlock)>RIMS - WTB ST i35 TCS 2.0>FRONTIRE - WTB Ranger 27.5x2.8">REAR TIRE - WTB Ranger 27.5x2.8"How much would you expect a hardtail with these specs to cost?
Clogged valve. Damn its my first. Fortunately I had it at 2bar(30psi) on the rear. Is the only solution taking out the valve and having it explode while doing so?
>>209492I'm reminding you nigga now 15 hours>dak norton>Matt walker>greg williamson>davide palazzari>lisa baumann>and hot Verika Widmann
>>210061Over $700, under $1200
>>208874What kind of trails do you ride mostly and whats your front travel?
>>210074When you unscrew it you might get lucky and some air will escape slowly. Just put a little pressure down on the valve core as you undo it incase you go all the way or something.
>>210114Predict now which 1 of 3 redbull athletes is going to fuck it up.
I did a big road ride today on my pure road bike and now I think I got this out of my system for the time being. Now I crave MTB for at least the next week.
>>209603Based
Local trails have an unwated visitor at the moment
>>210495Hit those wheels like a big roller. You won't, no balls
>>21007430psi behind a valve core is about as much force as popping bubblewrap
600km mileage on these stamp 7s and they snapped clean off like butter while on the down stroke on an uphill section. Fun...Anyways, still really too early for me to buy a new bike, maybe one or two years down the line, but for some reason i'm getting excited eyeing up commencal. Currently rocking my entry level polygon 120mm. Would love to get something around like 140-150mm. Anyone got any praise or ire for it they wanna share?
>>210495>unwanted visitorPerilous times. It was foretold, they should've acted. Unless (You), sole son and heir of the foregone Woodlands, do the necessary, they'll destroy the forest and build a 15 minute city that you and your kind shall forever be enslaved in. Be swift, cunning. Become the one who they cower to and the forest shall remain, untouched. >>210552Another crankniggers victim, many such cases!
>>210552Crankbrothers are among the shit tier bike manufacturers. Alongside e13 and whatever the fuck diamondback is doing. The only good pedals they make are the clipless ones, but even then they are shit tier pedals that have a lot of float compared to Shimano, time, or HT
>>210617I mean you’re not wrong, the quality control/design longevity is kinda ass, but they do make some clever components
>>210590>>210617Ive always heard about CB killing itself but i really did like it when before it you know... Anyways, biggest reason i got it was because its one of the bigger sized platform pedals. Going through customer service right now and seems like they'll send a refresh kit free of charge. Here's hoping
>>210552Considering commencal as a next bike after talking about broken crankbrothers pedals in the same post, are you retarded?Also, in less than a month two anons have complained about crankbrothers pedals shitting the bed. At this point, a list of components/manufactuers to steer clear of should be put in the OP. I'd personally have raceface rims, crankbrothers pedals and endura gloves.
>gud>mid>shitLooking for a new mtb. Give me your mtb brand quality tier list.What is gud and what is not?Where does Kona sit on ze list?
>>210657>gloves aren’t quality and we should spread the wordLmao is that your first pair or something
>>210657>are you retardedFrom what I've read, commencal seems like a fairly good brand and heck they're even proven in racing (though who isn't). It certainly doesnt carry the same reputation as CB at least.Been eyeing commencal since given I haven't seen anything bad about them, nice geo, beautiful bikes, nicely priced for an aluminum frame, local distributor is near me (who also services ohlins).
>>210670He’s talking about the fact that the 2022 and 2023 commencal Supreme had several downtube breakages that were disproportionately downplayed and ignored by commencal, it was the hottest meme of the last year or so.Like yeah he’s still retarded, but his opinion is indeed based on actual memes that did exist
>>210673Damn, companies are always so allergic to liabillity and transparency. When you're such a large known brand in a niche sport such as MTB, would have been better to own up to the mistake and let everyone know you're committed to making perfect shitAnyways, good thing i aint looking to get a supreme >:) Thanks for the context though.
I have an e-mtb
>>210692Hell yeah bro I love riding my class 1 emtb on legally-sanctioned pedal-assist bike trails or designated motorized vehicle trails
>>210674shimano ignored the thousands of bad road bike cranks for a decade until recently.It doesn't matter what brand it is, they can fuck up and it will hurt their bottom line.
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>>208372>cheaper than changing bearingsNext time go to your local engineering shop, they'll probably have something to fit on the shelf, otherwise overnight. (Ask them to put it in their next stock order if you want to avoid freight. It's usually once a week, twice if they're busy.)Price will be loose change compared to a new set of pedals. Also when you get new pedals, pack them with grease yourself. There's a knack to greasing bearings properly, google a vid.Also good seals are important. CAT does about the best available, and your local parts man should have one of these [pic] on the counter for size, and free freight if they don't have them on hand. If there's no dealer close to you, google CAT One Safe Source and have a look through the oring pages.
>>208371Foreword:I'm being fucking lazy here.Any of you guys tried throwing a 27 wheel into 26 Boxxers? Looks like it will be close but might work. Disc sizes are different so there's a bit of fucking about to see if she'll go, so typing this was easier. If anyone else is wondering the same, I'll post an answer next rainy day.
I can't with september's sudden weather changes. Rain sunny clear cloudy sunny sunny rain with clear sky no rain cloudy sunny rain, then it either stay clear for 2 days or drizzles for 3 days straight nonstop, no inbetween. Not even a woman has mood swings so fast in her period compared to the change in weather. They are racing in snow in the EWS now. It would be interesting if it snowed next week above 1300m like it did 5 years ago.
Is Kona bikes gud?
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>>210844This one’s pretty good
>>210847Nice boike and beutifull surroundings, but I was thinking of Kona mountain boikes, not gravel boikes.For some reason my country has a high surplus of 2022 Kona, and 2022 Marin mountain boikes going for cheap. I think maybe Kona and Marin made a surplus of boikes during the covid years and now can't sell them cheap enough, because the surplus was so big.Is picrel a gud boike? It's going for £799 ($1050)
>>210852You sound just like the chairlift operators
>>210853That looks like a modified Kona Unit X.I am but a lowly wanderer looking for a new boike to roide the trails on.Kona Big Honzo gud?
>>210852For the price compared to other new hardtails it seems like decent value. Looking at the spec of that bike I'd immediately upgrade the front disc to +200mm and move the current front disc to the rear for more overall braking power as those brakes will be underpowered. A suntour coil fork is also a bit of a downer as its not very adjustable compared to an air fork but you kind of have to expect that on a bike at that price, it can always be upgraded later. Everything else on the bike seems good with a decent frame and good drivetrain spec for the price.I think the main thing with this bike is the 27.5 plus sized tyres, most modern hardtails are now 29er as the overall ride is a bit smoother and allow you to go a little faster. The frame is compatible with 29 inch wheels but that would be quite an expensive change if you wanted to do that. Also in the UK those tyres during winter are going to be rather interesting for grip.What other bikes have you seen/what is your budget?
>>210552just an update on this, crankborthers will send a refresh kit that will allow me to rebuild it. I bought these while on a trip abroad to the US so im dealing with out of country warranty, but they were nice enough to send me a refresh kit directly to me free of charge. At least the customer service is all right.
>>210920Careful during the servicing, the screws and threads are fragile
>>210855Like >>210909 said, it's a solid bike for that price. If your trails look like your pic related you'll be fine with the stock bike. I agree though that depending on your height you might like 29er wheels more.
Spent the weekend in rotorua practicing for the whaka 50 XC race in 5 weeks time. Git some good learnings from the ride, I need to shift my cleats back a bit to take load off my calf muscles (leg cramp on long descents was horrible) and my elite XC Tyre combo of am ikon and worn out crossmark is not going to cut it if its wet. It's been raining on and off the last week and even with the grippy, well draining pumice soil in roto it was still slick in areas. Slid all over the place, climbing frontal lobotomy was near impossible for wheel spin and I ate shit a couple of times on gonna gotta. I did love how easy the xc tyre's rolled and climbed. Went out the next day on my ebike with the assegai and DHR and the grip felt so good. If it is raining fir the race I may just run assegai/HR2 at 30+ psi.I think I also need to use some electrolyte powder in my water and carry more lollies or some gels or something as my energy levels were in the toilet after about 40km.
>>211111>my energy levels were in the toilet after about 40kmFixable
>>210495Well I guess the deforestation has begun, according to the local facebook group the land owner is 'cutting down trees infected by larch', but this was the same comment made when they felled trees specifically where 2 other trail systems used to be within the last 3 years. The jumps further down are now completely unridable and in a jungle of fallen trees. Can't see the use of machinery anywhere and it's probably going to be quite difficult if they want to use it as it ends up being around a 32% gradient further up with a river running through the centre, hopefully they give up and leave it be. There is no signage anywhere either which is rather odd considering there is a public footpath which runs directly through the wood.They are using the large machine from my previous post and also doing work in another section of forest further round the hill, but it seems to be more particular as there is much more foot traffic there and would cause endless complaints if they felled too many tree's. >>211111You can make your own electrolyte solution for super cheap using cordial, sugar and salt. There are plenty of articles for ratios of each online, I usually just wing it as I can't be bothered doing precise measurements for each ride and I am not going to bonk when riding for 2-3hrs. Could also take caffiene tablets too.
>>211159If shit is diseased they’ll delete the entire trail system and face zero consequences. Recreation is less important than public arboreal health, recreation doesn’t even matter if there’s a newsworthy story about the trees
>>211160I think it's bs frankly, one of the other local trail systems was completely bulldozed and only the section which had trails the trees were removed. No other surrounding tree's were cut down even though they could potentially have the same disease. The land owners (I'm pretty sure it is the same water company) frankly hate the liability as it is legally right to roam but if some kid goes and breaks his neck on unsanctioned trails then they don't want to catch flack for it. Another sanctioned trail system was felled too and now the local council refuses to rebuild the trails. Riders ended up rebuilding it themselves but it was demolished by the council because they didn't do it themselves.
>>210657>At this point, a list of components/manufactuers to steer clear of should be put in the OPI'd also add Mucoff dry lube. It's ass. By the end of a 3 hour ride the chain is making noises. It also attracts dust. Taking my chain off and cleaning it with a toothbrush with hot water and dishsoap on the sink is common as the chain always has that layer/plaque of moondust and if I add lube to that it'll wear the chain much faster. I went back to finish line red dry lube after like 2-3 years.
>>211213I just remembered I also have had one of these bottles in the shed for 2 years and it will never be used again due to it attracting so much dust. They want you to only use it in dry conditions and when you do it ends up making the chain dirty. Literally defeats the point of the product.
>>211159>>211160Our local trails through plantation pine forest was bought by a wealthy local. He’s improving all the trails and replanting natives. It’s fucking sweet. All at his own cost and free access for all. Hopefully when finished he opens access to what will be a disused forestry road, it’s a shit of a climb.
>>211342Oops linkhttps://www.mtbtrailstrust.org.nz/Silvan-ForestDespite the map and signage I have never found that pump track but there’s some pretty wild jumps going in right now, I need to up my game but really prefer my wheels close to anka4ithe ground.
Top kek. Reading the commencal fb group it seems they dont cover shit if you ride the bike at all. I looked into the meta V5 SX out of curiosity as the frame was 1900€, geo is good but it will be a hit or miss with quality and if its a miss then you depend on them to cover it. Not the bike you want to keep for more than 2 years.
>>211364I know the entry price is high, but consider a boutique bike brand. They have excellent customer service and have your back. My EVILs, Yeti, and TIME were very expensive, but they come with excellent warranties and customer service. If that happened with one of my bikes, and it has happened to other riders, they'd send a new frame right away. My friends have Specializeds and Santa Cruzes and they'll do things like send you free bearings for obsolete frames if you ask for them.
>>211398That's what you are paying for really.
>>209821I actually got to bunny hop over one of these 2 weeks ago. I was stoked. I went back this weekend and some kook with a chainsaw instead of bunny hop game removed it.
What's the current word with Evil Insurgent? If I buy one, will it crack, or has that issue been cleared up with the current version? Google search shows me results from 12+ months ago of people complaining of cracked frames, and results less than 12 months ago show me people telling stories about people with cracked frames. I love how they look, I just want to slap a 180mm boxxer on it so I can have a dual crown long travel enduro for climbing and shredding all in one sexy package.
>>210658Stop kidding yourself and just get something tubeless that looks barely used they're 200$ on Facebook, make sure you grease and oil components appropriately. 1400$ gets you gimmicks 95% of riders don't need.
Should handlebars already be tightened on a bike when I buy it from the shop? I wiped out today riding my new bike for the first time because the handlebars weren't tightened. I'm thinking of making the shop pay my minor medical bills, but now I'm wondering if maybe that's customary in the world of mountain biking. Maybe they sell them with the expectation that the buyer will tighten them to his liking. Thoughts?
>>211708I've been on a Wreckoning V3 since last year and a Following MB since 2021. Just remember that people always speak up when their frames crack so this seems like a bigger problem than it really is.Most frames won't crack but if you do crack an EVIL, the customer service will take care of you. I'm in the owners' group on facebook and it's nothing but praise for their customer service and their warranty. Of course, most people there haven't cracked their frames.Having said that, VanCan has snapped a few carbon frames(all replaced under warranty) on what looks like a steep drop into heavy g-out that leads to a harsh bottom outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDLsQkLLwn8I can't find the video of the pro-rider sponsored by OnlyFans who broke his in a weird way during an easy turn, but EVIL also replaced his frame quickly with no fuss. That one seemed like a manufacturing defect.EVILs are really fun, that's why I have two of them and I still think about getting an Offering since they're 20% off
>>211772Also avoid any bike that has a drivetrain brand painted on the chainstay
It was slippery. I was feeling it so why not let is loose and chase PRs. Rear slipped on a root at the top, thought I saved it and hopped those big roots for the turn/g-out roost. Too bad I was sideways when I hopped, hit arm/head then bounced and hit my hip sideways on the g-out at the bottom. It's been quite a while since the last time I got winded. Now my hip(by the tailbone) hurts and I'm struggling to walk after getting home. 10/10 crash. Crash was relatively big but got out basically unscathed other than a couple small scapes and the hip thing.
>>211862Trails like that are basically impossible to get fast times/PR's on when wet I find. I end up going about 10-15s slower on a 90s track in the wet compared to into the dry for trails which look kind of similar to that. Overall, I'm reasonably happy with how the summer season has gone with my riding, ended up getting a fastest times of the year on 2 local trails which I was quite surprised at (out of 300 riders this year). Times relative to the KOM are still about 5-10s off but that is partially down to tracks getting rougher and sketchier with no maintenance. Comparing to all-time stats top 25 out of 2700 athletes and 20000 attempts isn't bad. Also haven't wrecked myself and had to take time off the bike due to injury which is honestly the best part of riding this year. It's offically Autumn here and raining pratically every single day so slip and slide trails are back for the next 6 months.Also does anyone have any recommendations for large tyre levers which can be used to install dh casing tyres without needing a 2nd pair of hands. Those fatspanner ones lasted a year before breaking, but could be used solo to mount a tyre with relative ease. The red zefal ones are seemingly indistructable and can be used to mount a tyre solo but it's a pain in the neck and I would like something which is strong and has a little more leverage.
>>211866Pedro’s tire levers like come on how have you not been indoctrinated yet
