Getting excited for CJI/ADCC weekend. As much as I'd love to see Nicky Ryan or Jozef win, I think Kade Ruotolo is going to get the $1 million.

CJI snagged a ton of ADCC competitors but I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how some of those divisions play out. Bodoni vs. Izaak could be great

>>207471
Gonna be real awkward for video with cji if those ticket sales numbers are real. Tighter cuts on the audience than a failing political campaign.

The girls in the OP are not cute enough compared to the previous generals

>>207439
I took the days off work just to watch CJI.
I want to see the Craig Jones vs that sexy muscle bitch.
I think the over 80kg is going to be a great study tool for me.
As much as my game is just a copy of Gordon's I am working to make it mine.

>>207474
ponder if you would, the aroma

>>207441
>>207516
How do you train this properly without ruining my partners leg?

>>207544
Just don't. Learn the victors roll, and do the seated/butterfly version that Gordon does in that webm.

I wish Gi had as competitive scene as hot as no-gi

>>207564
All other factors aside, shit talking in pajamas just looks silly. Especially to the uniniated. Figure out some way around that and you might start to be able to stoke some flames.

>>207564
it just too "brazilian"
I was a gi guy till a comp where the judges gave it to the brazilian I was against

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>>207564
it's just not a good sport and people have been stockholm syndromed into participating in it

people get into jiujitsu because they have an interest in MMA or they see it on fight pass or ADCC and then the teacher says "you will wear these expensive pajamas 80% of the time because reasons"

every time there's a class dealing with explicitly using the gi like for the collar or some kind of lapel work I immediately see everybody in the rooms brain turn off

>>207545
>victors roll
Damn how have I never seen this before thanks

>guy from my gym goes and pays over $1000 for a private with a well known top ranked athlete and he is shown his way of doing a move which is exactly the way I do it and have been telling people for free to do it like this

>>207611
There will always be a group of people who prefer things that way. They will go on to make money telling people who they learned it from. I'm sure you'll use this free information as well as yours was.

>>207592
I got into BJJ because I watched the Rio 2016 Olympics and thought Judo was cool but didn't want to get my spine and knees wrecked.

>>207625
>didn't want to get my spine and knees wrecked.
That's just grappling

>>207592
I will be quitting my gym (old school Brazilian) once I get my blue belt because of this.
I don’t mind standing in the Gi because practicing judo throws is a lot of fun, but everyone just pulls guard on me now except the 115kg Māori and I can only single leg him.

When I travelled I came across a few gyms that have 50/50 gi or no gi, and a large open mat one night of the week, so you can pick your poison. Having one or two no-gi sessions just doesn’t cut it, and my gym doesn’t even have a regular open mat, just public holidays.

>>207626
Most hobbyist jiujiteiros aren't athletic and get by just fine. Fragile people get filtered quick in judo.

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Are people still doing combat BJJ?

>>207658
It's listed as an event for a weekend thing in Mexico that Bravo is hosting. Ebi and the high rollerz thing too I think. As far as actually doing it, I think most people are treating it as a toe dipper training ruleset for jits guys who want to give mma a shot.

>>207664
>toe dipper training ruleset (for mma)
I am 97% sure that was goal for it and I think it has done a good job at that.

>>207439
Does anyone have experience with training powerbuilding and training nogi?

>>207603
I get there from standing and backstep, drop into the saddle, turn it into a clover leaf immediately so you aren't limited tot hat one heel hook but a dozen leg/foot subs.

I hope Jones pulls off CJI. I'm kinda worried that the production quality is going to be real garbage.

Have you guys copied a pros game?
I copied Neil Melanson when I blue to purple and have worked to make it my own since them.

I think this is great way to become dominant in the beginning.

>>207823
I suppose it should be a concern that the tickets aren't even sold out yet
and I know one of the goals is to be transparent about the audience for jiujitsu, and part of that is showing that people are interested in seeing womens matches
but I guarantee we'll see the stream dip by the thousands during the female match between the fake brazilian and the girl with the pointy face

>>207826
It's streamed for free why should anyone buy tickets to have probably a worse sight of the fights.

>>207837
>>207826
I think there's a little bit of backfire potential to all the jokes about the stands in ADCC being filled with people watching CJI on their phones.

>>207839
Depends if these type of sports make more money from pay per view or tickets, idk the prices but i guess streaming.

>>207824
Have you considered actually learning the art instead of copying some athlete?

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The CJI "alley" looks like the ideal grappling arena

>>207869
How long will it be??

nobody around for a watch-along?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyneYOMCvI0

>>207592
> I train in the gi starterpack
I actually only do it because it pleases my inner weeb with having belts and gi

>>207910
nope

>>207862
>copying some athlete
Building on a pros game, is learning the sport

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Let's fucking go

The wall reversals look a lot more like sweep counters than I was expecting for not really being on a severe angle

That headlock to back take was sweet

Power half with a body triangle, OOO

I think that was owen

FOOK EM

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>>207921
he looks like a dwarf

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>can see the panties of the whore in the back

>>207924
time code?

>>207925
When they were talking to craig, some minutes ago.

>>207924
HAHA she looked at phone then covered it,
maybe she is a channer

How do have no reactions on there faces?

adam v kyle round 3 was a good round

I know Craig likes his ladyboys, but did he have to get one to do the post fight interviews

>>207930
Gotta pretend it doesn't hurt so the other guy thinks it's not working and moves on
It's how I survive most submissions

>>207933
Someone must keep jj gay.

We /scoot/ nao

>>207933
Don't speech ill about the asian beauty.
I would pay above average for her if she was an escort.

If Luke losses I will be shocked

>>207938
If he doesn't stop letting himself get run into the wall he's gonna

Luke can only win by sub now

>>207940
Hes absolutely gassed


>>207939
Lukes treating it like an MMA cage but it does not work the same for wrastlin

Pat Downey made it look ez

>>207938
he's 39 years old

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this orge has won me over I will be hoping he beats nicky
and calling out Gordon makes it peak

If we see Downey/Rodriguez I'm expecting something to break

>>207944
He heard someone use the word semantics once, did absolutely no research into what it means, then used it on the mic
I can respect that

damn

Victor, YouGo

Hugo is crying damn
That hits me in feelz

>>207950
Let it break for a million bro

>>207951
Letting something break in the first round probably doesn't help you win that million

>>207952
It does because now you're immune for the test if the event
Can't tear what isn't there

What a surprise, a match with Brazilians is fucking lame and boring

>>207954
>Brazilians
I didn't watch any of it just opened a porn tab
asian sluts have better "grappling"

>>207954
Imagine the smell.

Oh boy. Another Brazilian laying on his back doing nothing

I fucking hate them

>>207958
The other guy has done literally nothing.

>>207959
Wrestlers dont know how to attack a guard well

>>207959
Because the fag is allowed to lay on his back and isn't being forced to stand back up and fight
That's the fundamental problem with jiujitsu and why everyone hates this sport

Niggers just stall on the bottom and do only enough to not get stood up again

If we remove cancer from jiu jitsu, what will all the Brazilians do instead?

>>207962
They will just move to the us or uk

>>207962
They can go do judo, the entire professional meta now is stalling in a way that causes your opponent to get disqualified

I dont know how Tackett will deal with the weight

final some good stuff

>>207961
But he didn't stall, he was attacking, the wrestler didn't even try to pass the guard once or do some attempt at submission.

brazil head butt a common move

In a few years it will be AJJ or just JJ
Tacket is cleaning up

>>207967
None of those were earnest triangle attempts. Just meaningless wrist grips and false attacks

>>207972
>None of those were earnest
Not saying your wrong but can you read minds?

Damn a back take at the end of the round

>>207974
I just know the strategy if the sport particularly with Brazilians, they're stallers

>>207976
I dont mind the round format, but why dont they restart in the position the previous round finished in? Its the same thing in MMA, you grind for a position and then its over and they get to stand up.. wouldnt happen in a fight.

fuck if you want to call stalling that was stalling

>>207978
There wouldn't be a 3rd man just standing around while the two of you walk into a predetermined area either

>>207980
Semantics, as Downey would put it

>JJ practitioners get advertising about... soap
KEK

>>207981
I'm always up for semantics

WMAF for the win

will it be a second rnc?

>>207986
rear naked cock

WOOOO NICE

>>207987
slamming the britbong with the joker tattoo

Bald match

Pat Downey is hillbilly a I can cheer for

Bradley is so pink that Downey looks Brazilian

Gator roll

oh yeah 3x 10-9

This is boring on a level I could never have anticipated. How did nogi somehow become a big deal? SNORE.

>>207996
Gi BJJ is superior

Now this is JJ

>>207997
Nah

Jason did a great job

>>208003
Absolutely, noble effort. Clearly a world class guy. And credit to Tye for taking it to him.

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Damn she is almost nude

>>208006
Who even is this chick?

Kenta's judo will carry him

The production is surprisingly good for something that was scrapped together quickly.

It is funny how well you can hear Dima

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>>208007
Alex Wendling

I hate when the cover their opponent's mouth with their hands.

>>208012
Why? if you can mess there breathing up do it

>>208013
it's cheesy, like a sternal rub

>>208014
>sternal rub
is how you check if some one is faking being asleep.

A hand over the mouth just makes some upset and messes with there focus

>>208015
I've seen people use sternal rubs in BJJ as an agitation tactic

>>208016
Damn thats corny

I thought some of these guys would be fighting way harder given what's on the line

>>208018
I was thinking everyone going to be acting like a dagestanie

if this fight is slow again I will am going to bounce back to porn

Wait Jozef chen is fighting from South african?
I thought he was german and chinese?

>>207439>>208022
Total saffer domination, jozef and dricus all weekend
Captcha: MMA8

buttscooting general lmao

Guys you are fucking retarded
If this general Is for the sport then it should be in /sp/ if its for training then /Fit/
Anyways we all here you dumbfuckers
>>>143843891

>>143843891

>>208027
Yeah can't crosspost between /xs/ and /sp/ for some reason

>>208028
there is a good reason

>>208029
What's the reason?

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>>208030
you did it wrong
>>>/sp/143843891

>>208026
Retard does not know how to cross post, and does not know why /xs/ is used.
HAHAHAHJAJAJA

>>208011
literally who?

Why is Nicky Ryan's gas tank so bad?

>>208038
He's just gonna get out hustled, isn't he?

Is north south secretly the best pinning position?

>>208038
The macaroni and cheese theory of genetics

If you imagine your gene pool as a pot of macaroni and cheese, Gordon being the first born got all the good stuff and Nicky got what was left over stuck to the side of the pot

based and Godpilled

>>208031
just copy and paste the URL link.
>>>/sp/143843891
>>>/sp/143843891

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>>208011
What about bjj buff girls, do we like them?

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Oh Yeah that's the stuff you fucking whore

>>208061
these women look like they stink of weed and do weird gross stuff like not flushing the toilet every time to save water

literally all I see in this picture is an HPV outbreak

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>>208068
5:27:8 for her friend, my friend.

This whole thing has made Gordon seem way less impressive to me, the heavyweight division is just a bunch of slow clumsy guys with no cardio that just lay there
The light weights are actually showing off skills

>>208078
Should be real easy for anyone else with skill to run right through them then. Wonder why that's never happened.

>>208081
Because he's giant too, He's the most technical of the untechnical giants
The really low-skill ceiling Makes him seem so much more impressive because all the other guys can't simply lay on top of him since he's big too

>>208022
IIRC his mom was born in Germany but grew up in SA and has a citizenship there

Is Gordon Ryan actually a cuckold or is that just a meme?

>>208098
He's Taiwanese himself, that's where he was born
His mom is German with duel citizenship for South africa and she got riced
He has passports from all 3 countries

>>208106
>The ultimate globohomo citizen

Rutollo v Tackett is gonna be filling film study for awhile

Ugly white woman vs a white woman pretending to be Brazilian

Kinda hope Levi doesnt win the million. Its such a lame style, sucks the energy of out matches and makes the sport look like a joke by gamefying it.
What is the point of this rule set if you dont punish guard pullers from not initiating action?

>>208148
i get what youre saying
but as a hobbiest myself i like seeing the "you dont have to be a fucking animal to win" style win
save that for the UFC
at least on my own end i dont want to travel, go to a gym on the weekends for open mat, and have a "ruotolo emulator" attempt to rape my limbs

>>208148
I knew it was over when I saw the referee was Brazilian
Immediately we knew there would be no stalling calls for bottom bois
The person on bottom needs to be obliged to stand up

>>208148
This >>208149 I fucking hate kade ruotolo style but guard pull and leglocks are boring too.

>>208061
>bjj buff girls
yes but that pic isnt them

>>208149
I hear you likewise, but most ruotolo emulators don't have the cardio/athleticism to truly emulate. They give openings and you capitalise. Anyone one yanking and cranking subs is a cunt, whether they're buttscooters or unnecessary movement spammers.

>>208150
if you're not showing extreme engagement and attacking from the bottom you should definitely be stood up

My favorit style is wrestle up and back takes

Damn

Think Gordon will duck him?

>>208160
Do birds fly?

>>208160
200%

>>208160
even if he doesnt johns just fucking weird

Would allowing slams have fixed the Downey / Bradley match?

>>208153
>ruotolo style
I hate it too that and the tackett style
the tacketts act so annoying to the point you cant even cheer for them

>>208164
yes

levi came to do jiu jitsu

Kade is pissing me off big with this
Showing off those ATOS skills

>>208167
>>208168
How are either of you on the sissys side?

Bro just sit on the floor lmao!
This right here is why nobody watches this sport

>>208167
his gf really wants that milly

Does Kade not have any pressure passing in his repertoire?

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>>208169
He isn't walking away because things aren't going his way.
He hasn't been attacking even if he isn't on top.

>>208169
its true, its bad for spectator sport
but as someone who does the sport i cant tell you what levi's style has shown in 10 minutes about how nutty guard is
like you hear it all the time at the gym/in class and here he is showing how much it castrates a spazz with alot of energy
>Bro just sit on the floor lmao!
BJJ's most powerful utility is how to not die on the ground, if ruotolo wanted to kick people on the ground maybe he should fucking join the right fucking ruleset
>>208171
i think levi is just really good, hes fucking calm as shit through all of this

>>208173
>maybe he should fucking join the right fucking ruleset
But he want the money and doesn't want to follow the rules!

What is he meant to do?

Kade would really want to punch him in the face right now huh

>>208175
He is getting bullied by a guy with nail paint on, yes he does.

Don't they need to make contact before pulling guard?

>>208173
The scoring criteria is supposed to be the person initiating action, it doesn't matter if he can pass or not

And unconnected guard sits are against the rules and he hasn't been called for it once

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>>208172
this was meant to be a bjj shot

>>208177
Yes
Literally cheating

>>208177
they have only been calling that if they aren't moving forward as they pull guard.

Can't Levi do anything but leglocks??

>>208181
>>208178
i mean ruotolo cant smack talk guard, AND THEN PROCEED TO NOT ENGAGE/PASS GUARD
so he fucked himself with his seething
boring or not, fundamentals wise you cant learn ruotolo's shit in class
you CAN learn levi's, and its great, but only if youre a practitioner, and I am so Im fascinated that people are upset by guard...doing its job

>>208183
>upset by guard...doing its job
best way to put it

>>208182
yeah but not really against ruotolo

>>208183
He hasn't launched a single meaningful attack he's just doing entries that lead nowhere, Kade is on constant offense and the fag is doing just enough to not get stood up again

>>208186
>Kade is on constant offense
>Walks away yelling at the ref

>cade BM pulls guard
>Levi threatens to pass and he has to spazz out into standup
OUTFUCKING SKILLED

>Kade pulled guard and could not handle the pressure and stands up
>KEKEKEKE

The muffler stuff is getting stupid

>levi had a plan and stuck to it
>cade did nothing but demonstrate BM and white belt-level spazz

LOSE PLZ LOSE

Levis hip mobility is insane, I dont think everyone can learn this level of guard retention physically.
People hate guard players because it can only exist within BJJs rule set, and it's antithetical to the original idea of BJJ as a system that will work in street fights.

They did it for the drunk crowed

>>208193
> and it's antithetical to the original idea of BJJ as a system that will work in street fights.
thats fucking stupid
kicking and punching and swinging a weapon exist
BJJ's best skillset is
>IF youre on the ground, how the fuck do you get off it and not die
it's a defensive art and striking arts just arent a thing in grappling

>>208164
>>208166
BJJ needs to allow slams from guard, if you're going to get slammed in a guard you need to let it go

>>208195
>IF youre on the ground
So BJJ is good at what to do IF you're on the ground, because thats the worst place to be right? so then why the FUCK WOULD YOU BASE YOUR GAME ON SITTING ON THE GROUND.

>>208193
>original idea of BJJ as a system that will work in street fights.
You forget it was original meant for a group of people to use it against a smaller group of people

The gracies where a gang

>>208197
>>208195
IF you chose to be on the ground, that should cost you points. You've chosen to be at a disadvantageous position, so unless you're doing great attacks or wrestling up into something then you should be penalised. It's a no brainer.

>>208195
It's not hard, you take down someone then you submit him, you don't crawl like a worm.

>>208197
i agree with you one hundred percent
people who use that are retarded
but given the ruleset youre dumb mother fucker if you actively get upset because levi is...doing what they teach you in your first month in class
in my opinion the hand to hand street fight equilibrium is this
>you get your ass knocked to the ground
>BJJ helps you safely stand up without getting your head kicked in
>wrestling helps you keep your feet and weight distributed
every other interpretation is stupid
>in a real fight
weapons and friends exist
>in BJJ
if mophead ass ruotolo wants to swing at his opponent his stupid white belt ass shoulda went into a striking sport
Levi did LITERALLY what they teach you in BJJ class and showed it works

>>208200
what do we know
>ruotolos are damn near psychotic on offense
why the fuck would you want to go against that, levi was pure technique
Did you forget cade BM'd and pulled guard to mock levi as if anyone could do it?
did you miss where Levi damn near did it but cade just spazz-wiggled free and went back to stand up?

>>208201
>Levi did LITERALLY what they teach you in BJJ class and showed it works
He didn't submit (which is the goal), Kade defended all his attacks..

>>208203
kade didnt submit (which is the goal), levi defended all his attacks..

>>208203
>Kade defended
wasnt cji meant to reward the attacker and not the one on the back foot?
Like how kade kept walking away after failing to pass?

I'll be back to go to war with all you wrongbois who disagree
But CJI was submission grappling, not BJJ, "passing guard" isn't a thing
It's some arbitrary condition BJJ uses to score points
If you're on your back you're pinned, the guard isn't a winning position

Hell even in BJJ the guard isn't a winning position, the only way to score points from the guard is to knock the other guy over and not be in guard anymore and tie always goes to the passer

Buttscootsissies are just gaming the rules when they don't explicitly ban this tactic but it's negative jiujitsu no matter how you slice it and the only way forward is to give a penalty and stand ups any time someone does it

>>208204
You are forced to engage the guard while the guard puller can skip the takedown which can put him in bad position.

>>208208
yeah? well ruotolo called out the guard and specifically boasted
"pass the guard and win, thats what im going to do" while calling out the judges
not only did he whine, he didnt even talk the talk, to fuck him, shoulda shut the fuck up and took the natty win, now he'll look like he bitched his way to a win while frankly not doing BJJ in his final match because
>didnt pass the guard
>got his guard passed
>showed rockhold-levels of BM
>lost to a smiling aussie whos corner was his girlfriend and his coach while looking like he was ready to commit murder
guy got fucking tilted off his ass

>>208209
>smiling aussie whos corner was his girlfriend
>his girlfriend
>got kicked out of unity because she was a gym whore riding the cock carousel and simps were catching feels and created gym drama
>murilo gave her the boot
>this beta cuck followed her
>calls her his empress
>makes him paint his nails and hair in a public humiliation ritual
>100% in a chastity cage and will not be getting let out tonight

>>208211
yeah? well he still made kade look like a fucking white belt
month after month you can do BJJ and youll be doing those fucking guard passing drills and you meet your match
this guy made kade meet his match, even made him bitch his way to a judge's decision, guy got in kade's head, kade just won... the popularity contest
you can bring up background all you want but from what i saw just in this tournament?
kade showed no respect, and poor mental when he finally met his match
and fucking tye got his leg popped by this cuck so there's fucking that

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>>208213
>made kade look like a fucking white belt
if that were true he's have $1,000,000
the influence of sport bjj is such a disaster for the martial art and it's all because of poorly thought out rules and faggots who play not to lose instead of playing to win

and worse yet the cuck was violating the rules, on day 1 they were getting called for sitting on the ground without grips. He was being permitted to cheat

>>208216
im gonna reiterate that kade called out levi's guard
i wouldnt have minded the outcome if
>you didnt say you were gonna set out to beat the guy in guard and not do it
>you didnt invite the guard pass from levi by pulling guard, and then get beat at guard passing by him
>you didnt call out the judges and leverage your crowd and fame to get a decision
>you won by skill and not being a spazzy athlete
>you didnt disrespect the guy who beat your brother by leg lock (a submission) by saying your brother was the 2nd strongest guy in the bracket
all this said within the tournament and saying you would beat the guard, doesnt mean jack shit if you cant beat the guard, just shut the fuck up and win, but dont call it out and then win by... not doing it

>>208217
he called him out for being a faggot trying to game the rules instead of fighting like a man

ive put the time code here
https://youtu.be/6KnaXC-XOxY?t=15406
motherfucking kade pretends like anyone can pullguard, proceeds to do it, and then levi essentially lets him know within 1 minute, no, not everyone can "just pull guard"
fucking levi's guard passing was dirty and the only thing cade could do is reset, and shrimp out and stand back up

>>208218
>game the rules
you mean the guy that, had he lost by decision, would have, except for the fact that he subbed all his opponents? dont be stupid
you want to fight like a man? everyone marketing the sport likes to tell everybody how "everyone can do it"
suddenly when someone actually dominates the mental game and the physical technique, youre going to be a high test faggot and make it all about being macho
fuck that,
kade legitimized PED's, genetics, and being popular
levi legitimized technique and fundamentals and fighting off the ground
so you fucking tell me if you were here to see wrestlefucking, or BJJ

>>208219
that's a really long way to say levi failed to pass and kade proved his point

he literally made no progress, if kade was free to stand up he was at 0 risk of being passed

>>208220
>wrestlefucking, or BJJ
submission grappling, BJJ isn't mentioned anywhere in this event

levi lost, he was pinned on his back to the mat for the entire match and had no meaningful offense. "Passing" isn't some kind of inherently valuable thing. The leg positioning is completely arbitrary and this sport did not define whether having your legs between you and your opponent is good or not
in wrestling it's a pin no matter where the legs are, in bjj it's a pin once the legs are both to one side
the default in grappling is you're pinned if you're on the bottom unless the rules say otherwise and carves out some kind of exception the way bjj does for a guard

>>208221
so you admit it was even then
are we going to pretend legitimate martial arts should be about "who is better at being a tackett or a kade", flailing about wildly
rather than
>look heres kade whose pure athleticism has allowed him to wiggle through everyones guard
>but just because one guy cant be passed its time to pull out the whine card
also i heard the rule was "pulling guard without advancing"
which again none of that matters when youre kade and you say "im going to pass his guard and submit him"
If i challenge you to a boxing match and tell you "im going to punch you until you lose consciousness" and then we proceed to not land any punches for 25 minutes, do I deserve to win simply because i threw more punches at you?
>>208222
>he was pinned on his back to the mat
youve never done BJJ to say something that stupid
levi always had a leg weaved in and essentially never got crossfaced
go fucking pass someone's guard without either of those, and youll end up looking like levi vs kade
no fucking practitioner of the sport will tell you kade got into a pressure pass situation, much less "pinning levi"

>>208224
kade is so bad at grappling that despite levi having everything he could possibly want with his preferred starting position and the rules penalizing kade for not engaging with it he still couldn't launch any meaningful offense against kade let alone tap him

alternatively your argument can be distilled to "cardio bad! flexibility good!"
how do we know which physical attribute is preferable? oh well it's all very arbitrary but its just like that ok?

>>208225
the man fucking subbed tye ruotolo
whos to say kade wasnt the one lacking commitment
i guarantee you if tye wasnt there to buffer for kade kade would have absolutely overcommitted and gotten his leg popped
you know, like how fucking tye got wrecked
yall can accuse levi of alot of things but last i checked
>only won by submission up to that point
>only won by doing BJJ fundamentals
Kade showed restraint because he didnt want to make it so that the ruotolo brothers walked out of that tournament with a combined 2 working legs between the both of them

>>208228
>combined 2 working legs between the both of them
kek that got me

>>208228
>doing BJJ fundamentals
and there it is folks
you think sitting on your butt and saying get in my guard bro! is fundamental

no uhm well you see, levi actually really did win even though kade got the money, and the crowd was booing him, and the judges unanimously said he lost, and the commentary team spent 25 minutes doing mental gymnastics trying to come up with reasons as to why levi wasn't completely embarrassing himself
like totally bro, he was winning because if you look closely you'll see both of his legs were on the right side of kades body and not the left side, so that means he's actually winning even though he'd be losing under wrestling rules, MMA rules, BJJ rules, ADCC rules, and did in fact lose under CJI rules but actually he totally won!

>>208231
>you think sitting on your butt and saying get in my guard bro! is fundamental
yes
"in a street fight scenario" use BJJ to stand back up
wrestle to take to the ground
and strikes to win
and friends to win harder
>you think sitting on your butt and saying get in my guard bro! is fundamental
again, you want to talk macho shit?
kade mocked the guard and said he would pass it
not only did he not pass it, all of his attempts were half assed
if he committed? both tye and kade would be crawling out of there
fuck the crowd, we all know they were fangirling for kade
and also its B team Jiu Jitsu, not B team "anon's arbitrary opinion of what it means to be macho=grappling"
you want to watch no rules, anything goes combat? go onto gif and watch some fucking war footage or some street brawls
and again, I personally wouldnt be defending levi so hard if kade didnt literally call out levi's guard and how he totally was going to pass it
the same fucking guard that crippled tye

>>208232
There is no reason to pass the guard unless it explicitly gives points for doing so, which this does not
The guard is equivalent to being shelled up when you're boxing, you're losing unless you manage to counter punch

Side control is a bad position, it lacks any meaningful control and is an inferior attacking position. There's no reason to ever go there and if bjj didn't award you points for getting there you'd see the position vanish all together

>>208233
>There is no reason to pass the guard
how about to establish a pin, which leads to a submission? dont be stupid, take away the guard and theres no BJJ
take away the guard pull, and its literally "guard from a terrible position" which might as well be a pin, which leads to a submission
competitive "grappling" should be a clash of styles, and BJJ has a bunch of styles
what youre saying is essentially what american jingoism has been saying for years
>oh how come ahmed the illiterate goat fucker manages to get an IED under the american war machine, that goat fucker should fight fair
say im in it for the million and im up against kade ruotolo who the FUCK am i to leave a win up to chance? hes better than me i should play what im good at. and its not like Levi did a bad job of listening to his corner, his camp came up with a gameplan and he stuck with it, discipline and control are the cornerstones of grappling AND martial arts, and youre dissing levi because kade had neither of that shit and tye is LIMPING out of the stadium which frankly sets a dogshit precendence for anyone who wants to get into the hobby

>>208234
"The guard" is a pin
Who says I have to pass the guard? If you're on the bottom I'm winning

The onus is on the bottom guy to improve his position, if we were fighting he'd be getting his face smashed in and if we were fucking he'd be the one getting his pussy crushed

>sets a dogshit precendence for anyone who wants to get into the hobby
Levi certainly did that with his conduct, nobody watching at home seeing this for the first time said wow that's something I'd like to do
They say wow this is gay and boring why is he just laying there?

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>>208235
>"The guard" is a pin
you cant apply pressure from any of the passing attempts the ruotolos had on him
>The onus is on the bottom guy to improve his position
the onus is on both guys to improve their position
>kade stands still
levi butt scooted forth
>kade jumps in
cant apply pressure because he avoided all pressure attempts by using his legs and avoiding head control/cross faces
do you even know what a guard pass is? its "taking the legs out of the equation" which is to say make them not be inbetween you and your opponent
kade never claered the legs and so levi always prevented kade from applying pressure with those legs, the same legs that if they were passed, would constitute a freaking pin

and another thing, yall are acting like levi has the same mindset as the ruotolos, those sick fucks dont tap and dont mind being maimed, so if they arent tapping, why the fuck should he play a game theyre perfectly fine dying in
webm related, its tye not tapping like the retard he is, frankly an embarassment to anyone who does this shit as a hobby/brings their kids to learn it

What is the best back attack submission video series? I have John Danaher's but are there others that are more concise and as good?

Josh Saunders is looking good. If he wins +99kg I would love to him and Nicky Rod go after it.

>>208250
Saunders is gonna be a force in the next few years, but I think he needs another one or two before he can make that a good match. Especially with Rod looking like he's discovered how to focus.

>>208251
You're probably right, most purple belts have been training BJJ longer than Saunders.

>>208211
>>100% in a chastity cage and will not be getting let out tonight
hot

>>208255
He did a hangout video with Bodoni, so maybe they're teasing a move to bring him in New Wave. If he does, could be very interesting to see if he keeps up that progression pacing.

>>208219
>the only thing cade could do is reset
If someone passes your guard and you can just walk away that guy is doing something wrong.

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The Gabi Garcia and Craig Jones fight is currently the top article on DailyMail.co.uk. DailyMail.co.uk is the 16th most visited website in the UK and a major news website and paper. I never thought BJJ would get this type of mainstream exposure.

>>208235
Must be fun to have your own imaginary rules
>if we were fighting
Do you apply this retarded logic to wrestlers, boxers, or judokas? Moron

>>208235
>if you’re on the bottom I’m winning
>gets leg broken
Congrats on your win

>>208277
>>208278
Just admit you don't know how to grapple and move on
Take a wrestling class or something instead of being a coward

Levi robbed by spineless judges. The whole event was ruined unfortunately.

>>208297
He did nothing
There's no circumstance where he wins Ties go to the person trying to pass

>>208297
He wasn't robbed and the event wasn't ruined, calm down.
Levi won the first two rounds with dangerous submission threats.
Kade won the last three rounds by nullifying Levi's attacks whilst keeping up his own passing attacks.
Levi was defending pass attempts but not counter attacking with sweeps or subs, and you can't win by defending.
Ultimately Kade won by a single point.
It was an extremely close match, not a robbery.

The hole is Kade's game is a lack of pressure passing.
The hole in Levi's game is an inability to press offense.
Kade needs to add pressure passing to his outside passing.
Levi can't expect to win just by sitting there waiting for his opponent to overcommit.
Levi is like the Floyd Mayweather Jr of jiujitsu, except that Floyd learned how to press juuuuust enough offense to steal rounds.

Yes, sitting on your ass is ridiculous. But backing away in fear from a guy sitting on his ass is also ridiculous. Sitting there waiting to be attacked is ridiculous. Charging in blindly and getting your leg snapped is ridiculous. Round and around and around we go.

Ultimately it was a damn good night of fights (better than the $80 UFC card) and a very good thing for the sport as a whole.

Something I haven't seen mentioned anywhere, some of this CJI structure hits the dopamine a little for people who want MMA one night tournaments to come back. That might be a good hook for furthering the general audience outside practitioners.

>>208301
Levi single-handedly ensured jiujitsu will never be taken seriously as a spectator sport
The train was rolling until the crap he pulled at the end because he was afraid and decided to just tech the score cards and stall

>>208301
This and a butt scooter winning 1 million would have benn the end of the sport and ruined all the work done by cji to promote it.

>>208311
>>208303
THE SKY IS FALLING

THE SKY IS FALLING

>>208312
This is the death blow to bjj. It had a chance to recover but its over now
The 7 figure paydays come from an organization that says butt scooting is a valid tactic
They had the opportunity to make the rules penalize it and that would instantly flow downstream and force bjj players to learn appropriate stand up
But now with this it's done for good

>>208247
finish on the back is good and fighting back from leglocks is great.

>>208235
>"The guard" is a pin
A pin is a dominant position which partially or fully immobilizes your opponent and from which you can attack effectively
You can't attack effectively from your opponent's guard, ergo guard is not a pin

>>208320
Of course you can attack from the guard, that's why in MMA they don't pass the guard
And bjj doesn't allow can openers, rape chokes, or slams all of which defeat the guard which is why they're banned

Do not appeal to the Brazilians when it comes to defining what positions are strong and what are not
They are under the impression that knee on belly is such a powerful place to be that it's worthy of its own points, Really unique in this one niche configuration earning score
Such a powerful position to be in that 100% of athletes immediately leave it as soon as they get the points for it

Or how about this we are an agreement that being on somebody's back is more powerful than being mounted on them because it's asymmetrical
But someone could be flattened out belly down and sitting on their back awards you no points unless you put hooks in
Meanwhile if they were flipped over and facing you the position would be worth points without hooks despite being much weaker
And don't even get me started on hooks being a scoring position, but body triangles are not
Again hooks are such a powerful position that athletes abandon them as soon as they get the points for it and move on to a different control configuration like body triangle, crab, and twister hooks

The definitions of what constitutes powerful positions were developed by a bunch of retards

>highschool kid does trial class
>gets obsessed
>shows up the next day with $500 of gear on he got his parents to buy for him
>got a new gi, rash guard, mouth piece, premium belt, knee pads, amino drink
>does 2 a days for the whole week
>calls out another white belt to roll
>It's the other kids first week also
>It's just a cock fight with everyone clearing the mats and standing around watching
>tempted to start taking bets and throwing dollar bills on the ground
>tryhard kid gets flipped over and taps from getting the wind knocked out of him
>starts making excuses and sulks on the bench for the rest of class
>hasn't been back since

>>208279
What does wrestling have to do with it lol even if I score a takedown, I have to attempt to pass. Top and bottom players can both get called for stalling. Maybe you should compete and learn, they might let you wear your helmet. Fucking retard
>>208324
>Of course you can attack from the guard, that's why in MMA they don't pass the guard
It's not MMA holy shit
>can openers
>rape chokes
>slams
There are rulesets that allow these things and people still get submitted. Stop moving goalposts and start training with good people

>>208332
>ignores the entirety of the rest of the post because it dismantles your appeal to tradition

>>208336
You posted an incoherent wall of text about brazilians and IBJJF scoring, which I don't give a fuck about. You still have to engage and attempt to pass from top position. Earning top position is worth something, but sitting in top half or retreating from an open guard is not inherently winning. It's not a fucking fight, if you don't want to deal with the guard then train something else.

>>208337
Stand up
Nobody is obliged to step into your leg entanglement
You want me on the ground with you then put me there, and if I can easily just stand up and walk away then that's your problem, you aren't in control

>buttscooter
Serious question: why don't you guys just train/watch wrestling, judo, mma, and skip bjj altogether? Why bother with bjj if you hate half of what the sport encompasses?

>>208319
are these from ethan crelinston?

>>208343
BJJ has the most gyms in the English speaking world. It also has the most open rule set, where you can practice all 3 of those styles/traditions. CJI has proven the people enjoy submission, BJJ is just the most available and compatible platform to train and watch it in.

Guard playing is the sole reason BJJ in MMA has become a joke, and is the main inhibiting factor to the sport becoming legitimate amongst its peers. So yeah, it’s fucking gay and annoying and you’re an annoying fag if you support guard pulling buttscooters.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iGYZ2N-NUyM&pp=ygUHTW1hIGNoZQ%3D%3D

>>208331
Top kek. All the gear and no idea

>>208320
It’s essentially a pin during MMA rules. It’s only the BJJ rule set that allows guard to not be a pin, fuck, even side control is barely a pin anymore under the BJJ rule set and your conditions.

>>208343
Wrestling has no submissions, judo banned leg grabs and has gi, Catch wrestling doesn't exist outside of US/England.
BRASILIAN jj and its retarded ruleset is marketing, jiu jitsu is a traditional japanese martial art and was never about just sitting on the ground like a monkey, the ground fight is a consequence of a takedown.

>>208343
Guard is a defensive posture, bjj is the only combat sport that allows someone to take a defensive posture and not get reset back to neutral for it, and worse yet demands the offensive player to engage with the defenses

The rules are bad and backwards, the guard is meant to be used to recover from attacks it isn't supposed to be your main attacking tool in itself

And this idea of someone having a "good guard" is an illusion
Yeah wow this flexible twink is really good at guard when he's permitted to set it up however he wants with no resistance
If he isn't able to make it happen during an actual engagement it's not a good guard, it's just autofellatio skills

>>208359
in boxing I can cover up and walk forwards

>>208344
Ethan made Finish on the back
Nicky Ryan made Fighting back from leglocks

>>208338
Still not getting it huh.
What if you score a takedown? Do you just get the points and disengage? Why even bother with submission grappling of any kind if you're so scared of working on the ground?
>>208359
>the guard is meant to be used to recover from attacks it isn't supposed to be your main attacking tool in itself
You're the expert. Sound like you should invent your own ruleset and sport. Alternatively, you could learn to pass the guard
>inb4 wrestle wrestle wrestle wrestle wrestle
Ok, then what? If you only want to work standing skills, do something else

>>208360
Let's equate the two like that then
Sitting to guard is the equivalent of clinching in boxing
So you cover up and avoid, then clinch whenever the other guy gets too close and just try to sucker punch him on the break
It's negative boxing, it's doing everything you can do to avoid actually boxing the other guy

Because that's what BJJ does, the person on bottom is permitted to avoid the top player and the top player has to let you grab them or they take a penalty

>>208362
>What if you score a takedown? Do you just get the points and disengage?
No of course not, that should and does get penalized
You seem to have this impression that people are angry about guard play per se
People are angry that butt scooters take advantage of a technicality in the rules to completely skip over a phase of the competition they aren't good at instead of getting good at it
Winning the transition from feet to the floor is a way to score points as it should be, by simply sitting down on the floor you are denying the other person the opportunity to score points, And you are doing that with no penalty to yourself

You'd actually find way fewer people complaining about guard pulls if the person who did it automatically lost 2 points. Because in essence you did just lose the stand up game, you chose to concede the take down and go to your back rather than risk the other person physically putting you there

All of that is enough justification for why it's bad but to get even more pedantic about it
If you get taken down it is unlikely you are going to be in the optimal position to throw your guard back into place, the pass will likely be less difficult/has already started on the way down
So it's putting your thumb on the scales once again by saying a guard puller is allowed to fortify his defense as much as he wants but the passer is denied the ability to maximize his offensive potential

>>208359
>Yeah wow this flexible twink is really good at guard when he's permitted to set it up however he wants with no resistance
this is completely made up

Holy fuck I buttscooted so much in class today lmaaao niggas mad niggas mad

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>"playing" guard
>not wrestling up or going to turtle
you guys don't really do this right?

>>208401
it's a sad situation, all these people joining up to bjj because they want to learn how to grapple and fight only to be convinced and taught by some nobody instructor how to game the rules of a sport nobody cares about (couldn't even sell out a small arena with the biggest competition of all time)
all they care to do is hang worthless medals on the wall by any means necessary instead of learning to be competent grapplers that earn the respect of their peers through their abilities

>>208401
>>208402
You guys must train at shit gyms if you think you can out-wrestle everyone, every round. You're only hurting yourself when you refuse to work on guard skills. Just join a wrestling club or something. This is like being at a boxing gym and constantly whining about the rules and why kicking would dismantle certain habits.

>>208403
>implying they train and aren't just trolling

>>208403
>out-wrestle everyone, every round
>touch the hands for a second and sits down at the beginning of the first round

>>208403
>>208405
I am trolling but immediately putting yourself in or accepting a bottom position is a bad habit. Particularly in combat bjj/mma settings.

>>208403
yeah, bjj is gay and I don't even do it if someone asks
I do submission grappling and don't tolerate people running away from a fight

>>208366
This post is being ignored because it's indisputable

>a man sits down before you
>you back away in fear and beg him to stand
Just pass, bro.

>>208432
Why? He already submitted to me
He laid down on his back with his belly up like a scared dog. The fight is over

This is a question to judo as well as too bjj, what is the point of sparring for beginners? I am not talking about people who are like 3-4 months with 4x days of training but about people 2-3 weeks in with 2 days of training each week. Like I can‘t do any techniques and will get bodied by anyone who can do some shit. If I just went for power I will get quickly exhausted and will not learn anything except to tap out.

Wouldn‘t it make more sense for someone who is really new to do some basics training while the others roll?

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"Throws aren't fight enders" fags BTFO

>>208455
Getting rolled through by better people is one of the basics. Learning to just tap to something you've never felt before and hurts is one of the basics. Realizing that one day someone else will being an unskilled dummy for you to work on is one of the basics.

>>208455
>I can‘t do any techniques
You will never learn to do them if you don't train against people who are resisting for real.

wrestling > judo > boxing > bjj > karate/taekwando

>>208465
It wasn't the throw that ended the fight, but the choke

>>208479
He couldn't defend the choke because he broke his shoulder trying to post out of the throw.

>>208481
Oh well, that explains it then

>>208466
>>208470
I am not saying to never do it, but rather 1-2 months after the training. Otherwise all I will do is just using my force and no techniques or working on technique.

>>208366
this

>>208403
>>208432
why couldnt you refute this post>>208366
Guard players avoiding genuine argument as much as they're avoiding genuine fighting

>>208471
MMA > submission grappling > everything else

>>208486
You misunderstand me. I'm not defending butt scooting. I'm saying if a guy is sitting on the floor in front of you, smash him.

If you're boxing a Floyd Mayweather type, cut the ring, crowd him into a corner, plant your head in his chest and beat him to death. Fuck that prancing dancing faggot.

Open, unconnected guard is playing on hard mode, especially in nogi. Somebody has the audacity to just sit in front of you, smash em.

Now, if the roles are reversed and you want to play a defensive/counteroffensive game from the guard, OK fine, but you'd better have the ability to get up and pursue the guy if he just turns around and walks away.

I just think the mental gymnastics of refusing to smash a guy who's voluntarily put himself in a weak position is hilarious cope. "Oh no he's sitting on his ass I'm so scared I don't dare go near him! Boo hoo well actually I won anyway!" Just pass bro.

>>208486
>Guard players avoiding genuine argument as much as they're avoiding genuine fighting
Rekt

>>208483
It's the same, 2 weeks 2 months, you won't be able to do the techniques anyway the first time you spar. In Judo i started after a month, in bjj immediately but it doesn't matter it's part of the training.

>>208455
There is no benefit to white belts sparring, And any gym that has a legitimate white belt foundations course doesn't allow them to

There are 2 reasons why a gym would have white belt to sparry, reason number one the coach is a retard
Reason number 2 there's just aren't enough people in the gym to justify blocking out a time slot for a white belt only class
You would never take a beginner in boxing, spend 15 minutes teaching him a 1 2 and then throw him in the ring to spar against someone that's been practicing for 5 years, But that's exactly what we are expecting white belts to do when we put them in regular classes to roll

The only kind of live training beginners should have is specifically focused to whatever position the class was about that day, And as soon as the role moves anywhere outside of this specifically defined area of focus you reset back into it

>>208506
this in my eyes is the correct way, but sadly it's really rare. Because there are not always enough people. And then you sometimes have people who think sparring as whitebelts (even if you have tons of experience) is a fucking competition

>>208521
This is and if you build it they will come type situation which gym owners need to understand
We had an issue where the gym was really starting to stagnate because we would have 2 or 3 white belts in class And the class can only be taught to the lowest level of the room
So advanced people weren't getting the advanced lessons they needed, And this was especially true with leglocks where people were falling behind on leg lock work because a white belt would show up and it's just not possible to do heel hooks and leg entanglements with them, so the lessons would get scrapped

So then we tried out That if white belts showed up to an advanced class they would have a separate lesson off to the side, But that didn't work either because it divided the teacher's attention and nobody gets good instruction that way
So the end result was simply banning white belts from attending certain classes, But that isn't fair exactly because they pay the same as everybody else so they received white belt only classes
And just a few months later the result is where we went from having 2 or 3 white belts in a class we now have a room full of white belts double the size of the group that will attend the advanced class right after it

It's just good for business to do it this way. Beginners need an incubation period

>>208465
Man I love those hicks at daisy fresh,
I kinda want to move out to them.

It is great to see other hillbillies in a sport of IT works.

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So are finally getting the Gordon Ryan cuck expose?

>>208548
I just found out about the what happened,
and as a big fan of Nicky Ryan it kinda made me uncomfortable even watching Gordon's instructions.

I just wished I watched more of them before I found out.

>>208455
it is for fun,
After my first class I rolled I got a butterfly sweep, a back Escapes and a armbar. I felt amazing begin able to get them and it made me keep going.
All three were taught in the class before it was my first time grappling my only experience with bjj before was watching matches on YT and other stuff from the b-team channel.

>>208548
This is why DeBlass used to kvtech about grown men and gossip. He's on the list, and I'd bet it's not in a small way.

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>>207439
any one have advice on S&C?
I love the sport but my body isn't enough for it sometimes.

I was thinking just some calisthenics stuff till I can set up a powerlifting cage at my home.

>>208555
Nice trips.
I've seen a few different approaches to the "lifting plus rolling" conundrum.

1. Powerlifting style basic strength training, squat/bench/deadlift, focus on basic compound lifts, etc. The idea being, we're not bodybuilders, let's just build foundational strength to benefit our jiujitsu skills. Lots of yt strength coaches seem to lean in this direction.

2. The opposite: bodybuilding style body part split programs, more isolation exercises, higher reps, chase the pump, etc. Idea being, we're already fragged out from jiujitsu training, let's avoid frying our nervous system with heavy weights, let's build a balanced physique and try to fortify the body by building muscle around our joints. Pretty sure this is what Gordon Ryan does. Also Chewy has recently been shilling a "lifting for bjj" program that follows this mold.

3. "Sport specific" style training, think dopa bands, Bulgarian bags, medicine balls, clubs, maces, uchikomi, bosa balls, etc. Idea being, let's try to replicate movements in S&C that will actually be reflected in training.

"Knees over toes" stuff is kinda a blend of 2 and 3.
BTW, I think it's worth noting, there's pretty solid historical precedent for just spamming utter fuckloads of calisthenics/bodyweight exercises. All the old school catch wrestlers, Farmer Burns, Karl Gotch and his stable of Japanese wrestlers, the Great Gama, etc all just did literal thousands of reps of various calisthenics.

The biggest issue is just managing recovery and balancing lifting and rolling. Ultimately you'll have to try a few different approaches and see what works for you.

>>208560
>2

The older I get, the more wisdom I see in doing some 80s style machine only mesocycles, if not maybe just doing them entirely if you have a gym with great variety of options. Being able to specifically work or exclude any given group/limb/range etc is incredibly helpful. But like I said, often availability prohibited.

>>208560
Wow this great thanks
>>208563
All I got are some spin lock dumbbells(a pair that goes to 80lbs) which I guess could be used like machines to hit the small muscle and gym rings
but it is good to hear from someone with xp.

>>207611
Heath Pedigo seminar was $60 and it was two days and 6+ hours, most value I got out of a seminar.

>>208569
>Heath Pedigo
He seem like a great guy I am working through his white belts course, and the first bit is about pulling closed guard and breaking down your opponent.
It has been simple yet effective for me to be able to get to same position on my terms.
He has his white belts demonstrated so he can correct there mistakes which were the same I was making.

>>208576
He was super nice, also met Couch. It's a lot of stuff that just works.

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bruh...

>>208465
God I couldn't even tell he broke his till I read it, The Adcc camera men piss me off plus the ref walking in front of it.

>>208548
I think the fact that his girlfriend raped nicky in puerto rico will be corroborated

>>208590
Can someone break down what Pixley does, I see a wizzer and he limp legs out of the single and meregoli sort of falls over lmao?

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Holy shit.
These guys are always doing dirt cheap seminars in the middle of no where with no notice or proper promotion.

>>208596
Probably hoping to snag a bunch of fresh meat for the team with "guy who broke Meregali" bait.

>>208593
judo
https://youtu.be/Y7tCD2t8EgI?si=xsAZagIeFamDrY5v

>>208600
cool I have no idea how to do this lmao thanks
maybe I need to go to his seminar, it's 95 miles each way for me

>>208579
They dropped by our gym and Couch liked my tripod sweep :3

>>208596
They actually believe in their ideals and giving back and all that. Heath is unironically proud of having the toughest white belts in the world. They spend valuable time with old masters never-beens (such as myself) and noob wanna bes.

Not to be a dickrider, everyone is merely a man, but I've been consistently impressed with both their jiujitsu and the way they carry themselves.

The good people of Perryville, MO are gonna get blessed with some world class wrestle-jitsu.

>>208605
not a fan of their communist imagery

>>208606
The five point star? The color red?
We're reclaiming em for good old honest hard-working Midwestern corn-fed American jiujitsu!

>>208607
Is that true though? The wiltses are openly leftoids

>>208609
Pretty sure Andrew and Heath had some kind of falling out a couple years ago. I don't know the details. It's a shame, honestly.

>>208605
Are you near STL, I like your attitude.

>>208609
andrew grew up in california and the middle of no where michigan where he was bullied by rednecks for being autistic, he has brainrot from being chronically online and reddit, posts orangeman bad on instagram

>>208610
mental health is a mothefucker, he had a falling out with everyone, idk if the videos are still up but he was drawing on a white board for hours on end "teaching" a free seminar.

>>208618
Nah sorry bro, not in STL. I don't wanna dox myself but if you're running in Pedigo circles you'll probably run into my gym/coach/team eventually.

>>208555
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Vhi7SuFe8
I hate the bald jew of lifting

>>208623
made a temp email just in case you want to write it on there tiwapej902@polatrix.com

>>208583
god i hate women

At risk of sounding like a nosey parasocial weirdo, does anyone in the periphery of Daisy Fresh know what Andrew Wiltse is doing nowadays? I used to really look up to him in my white and blue belt days and it seemed like he had the potential to be one of the best middleweights in the world. He was a great teacher too, but it doesn’t seem like he’s even bothering with that nowadays. Wrestle Up is one of the most underrated guard instructionals out there and all of his free stuff on YT was solid gold. He obviously had a really deep understanding of the game and an amazing rolling instinct. I still go back and watch him effortlessly beating up Clay Mayfield and other black belts.

Last I heard he’s just living on his instructional bucks with Bird, munching adderal and rotting his brain gooning on video games. His last video on Tucker Carlson was just embarrassing too - just smug pseudo intellectual ‘ur dumb god doesn’t exist because science’ reddit esque rhetoric. I’d love to be proven otherwise but he seems too far gone. It’s a shame.

>>208634
he just seethes on the internet because he doesn't have what it takes to win in any division that matters
wow an amateur level world champion!

he's not good enough to do it at black belt so he quit

>>208634
he's on instagram and reddit and will post once in a while

last thing that got me to unfollow him was a bunch of political shit when trump was facing felony charges

Heath Pedigo, Michael Pixley Brandon Reed & Jacob Couch are why I follow PSF. I am kinda glad I never looked at Andrew witles he seem like a loon.

>>208596
with deals like these I might drive down from the rocky mountain just for a seminar. Since no one ever comes to my town.

>>208649
>political shit
This is almost as bad as porn for rotting peoples brain.

>>208634
He’s mentioned in the semi-recent past that he still trains. I think he just got really traumatized by his public mental breakdown, which was awful to witness.
He’s clearly a bit of a sperg but I’m rooting for him. I feel like he could have won trials and maybe more if things didn’t get fucked up