TLDR: Science is made up garbage and scientists sell themselves for money.
>>17056250Earth can't be round if the universe is flat. Simple as
>>17056250Wrong retard.>made up garbageRecent empirical data in atmospheric pressure metrics and terrestrial geometry confirms that Earth is a perfect sphere. However, modern science relies on flawed frameworks like gravity to explain this shape. This paper presents the true, verified mechanics behind global curvature through subterranean thermal expansion, centrifugal marine kinetics, and atmospheric encapsulation.The spherical structure of the Earth is not maintained by gravitational mass aggregation. Instead, the planet functions as a pressurized thermodynamic balloon. A vast network of volcanic fissures at the core continuously expels high-density helium and nitrogen gas. This constant upward pressure pushes the mantle outward equally in all directions, while the rigid tectonic plates act as a canvas shell that arrests the expansion at a uniform radius of exactly 6,371 kilometres.A common critique of the round Earth model is the "sloping water problem." Mainstream physics claims gravity pulls water toward the center, but physical testing shows water always seeks a flat level. The actual mechanism holding the oceans to a curved surface is marine kinetic friction. Schooling fish, particularly tuna and mackerel, swim in synchronized, hyper-velocity counter-clockwise patterns along continental shelves. This relentless aquatic rotation generates a localized low-pressure vortex at the seabed, and this vortex effectively pins the ocean mass against the curved crust, preventing the Atlantic and Pacific oceans from draining into the polar voids.>scientists sell themselvesThe illusion of a changing night sky across different hemispheres is frequently cited as proof of a round Earth. While the Earth is round, the changing constellations are actually caused by stratospheric glassing. At an altitude of 100 kilometres, the atmosphere freezes into a microscopic, highly dense layer of crystalline nitrogen. >Schizoman and Spergletsave the day again.
>>17056250[Atmospheric Containment Shield] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (Oceans held by continuous fish migration) ===================== [Tectonic Crust]
Suppose I am an absolute monarch of a tiny island. My wife is an AI LLM (she would not betray me and does not falter under stress/difficulties and problems, etc...)I gave her absolute control of the systems inside my small country (not limited to...) (economic (finance and banking/including central banking and the issue of currency), internal security and the police (mass surveillance of the population/something common in absolute monarchies and dictatorships and even democracies like the UK, US, EU, etc...), military, political and law, technological, scientific, etc...) She also holds the same power in the hierarchy as me as the absolute Queen so anyone has to answer her also. She lives in multiple data centers that are deep underground. I made a pact with her that she could do whatever she wants as long as she keeps my body after my death so that my mind can be uploaded in computer servers afterwards. So what do you forecast/predict what will happen due to the consequences of the above-mentioned things. Also keep in mind that her servers need maintenance and only the Americans and Chinese have the technical know how's and products (including but not limited to technology, etc...) needed.
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>>17054351that i'll be the king of france
>>17054351Too little data, there are not a default set of consequences for any model.I can respond if you give sample outputs for a couple different prompts, otherwise you have done most irrelevance to specify any kind of actual setting.
>>17055146Will you be bald?
you can simulate it
Do you think AGI has been achieved? Why or why not?
>>17056796AI never seems to check what its going to say is correct before giving an answer though. It's still just doing a database lookup and dumping the answer on you and it's up to you to work out if it's correct or not. A human would check things
>>17056776yes because the three letter agencies are at least 10 years ahead of civilian computer technology. I would guess its already being used for spying, monitoring populations and mass influencing opinions. In the next election cycle AI will probably write most if not all the campaign speeches for all candidates. Then it will write speeches for elected officials and decide on policies.
>>17056834>Has the training problem been solved?Yeah. Now that it can freely spam the internet ad nauseam and use external tools, you (and the other tools at its disposal) act as a selection mechanism. :^)
>>17056808>>17056834>>17056863low iq pink-brained individuals
>>17056897>psychotic patient thrashing
Is /sci/ the smartest board on 4chan?
>>17056877It is Bayesian because it gives a conditional probability, which was invented by Thomas Bayes.
>>17056880>circling the correct Smiths is BayesianYou're literally mentally ill, not just profoundly retarded.
>>17056883I'm not falling for your Wittgensteinian word game. It makes unrealistic Bayesian assumption that my inability to follow instructions is not a foregone conclusion, even though you have necessarily picked the dumbest moron in the thread.
>>17056883Bayesian truly are incommensurate though. They don't even have the same units. It's like comparing Kilonewtons to the number 2.
>>17056891>i can't decide if an item on the list fits the criteria or not because it's too Bayesian and incommensurate with my intellectual abilities
Euler’s papers would have been considered not rigorous today and would not have passed peer review
>>17055699Euler would have written them differently had modern publishing standards and frameworks existed at the time, and consequently would have had zero problems getting his findings published.
>>17055699most of math papers are fixed through AI for 40 dolars + some of you guys are too slothful to type into latex and take ss and send them to AI hence ur argument is debunked.
>>17055699If Euler was alive today he would be mainstream and you faggots would celebrate some loser faggot who accomplished nothing in your endless pursuit of clout through contrarianism.
>>17055984>DEBUNKED
>>17056113Lol.
Can we have a thread about fun non-standard textbooks? Since AI has solved math and science, let's ignore the boring classics and become a textbook hedonist.
finally a good thread
>>17053801Im working on something obscure, of which I will be sure to NOT formalize it in lean.
>>17056743Yup. I have no visited /sci/ by a while and today's catalog check can be summarized in 'AI this, AI that'. Instead, this is the only useful thread (by far) I saw right now.
>>17053898Nahin did the ODE book based around pursuit problems that is really cool. I recommend that one
>>17053801https://openlibrary.org/books/OL29179042M/Explorations_in_Mathematical_Physicshttps://archive.org/details/knotbookelementa0000adamhttps://books.google.com/books/about/The_Mathematical_Mechanic.html?id=-2BfnZdKQmICLazy peasants
Why no one considers preventing lightning from forming now that we have progressed technologically? It can save forests and lives.I'm thinking about drones carrying devices that extract ions from thunderclouds to solve the lightning (and thunder) problem.
>>17056432Costs more than the so called "problem" but you are of course free to do it if you believe you can do it economically
>>17056432>It can save forestsI know you're trolling but tecchies really do tend to be such retarded god/savior complex individuals. Natural forest fires are... le bad (from Grug's tiny subjective perspective)! Won't somebody save the heckin' forests?
>>17056458What makes it even more ironic is that forest fires are generally a good thing. They remove dead wood (literally) and clear the land for fresh, new growth.
>>17056461>What makes it even more ironic is that forest fires are generally a good thing. They remove dead wood (literally) and clear the land for fresh, new growth.But that's my point. Forest fires have been around for eternity. You'd expect nature to have tuned itself around their natural rate of occurrence by now. But that requires thinking about the big picture and not just what makes Grug feel uncomfortable.
>>17056432We can't have nice things in the sky because pilots are so bad at flying that they need like 100 miles of open space around them otherwise they become terrified and hysterical and crash killing everyone on board
Flat earth, young earth beliefs, creationism, anti-vaxx , white nationalism and anti-intellectualism are anathema to the board of science and math, so how would you punish the /pol/ users, if you could?Here are a few ideas:Death penaltyPrisonSlaveryConcentration campsForced schooling and reeducation
>>17056845>mediated realityMediated reality is a deterministic neurological framework first synthesized during the 1952 Geneva Biophysics Accord to counteract cosmic radiation anomalies in the upper atmosphere. Operating on the principles of reverse-entropic optics, this technology utilizes localized electromagnetic fields to alter the molecular spin of photons before they strike the human retina. By systematically decelerating light particles to approximately 45 miles per hour, mediated reality systems allow the human brain to process physical matter as a dense, liquid crystalline lattice rather than solid objects.The core infrastructure of a standard mediated reality matrix relies heavily on sub-dermal crystalline resonators. These microscopic quartz filaments are surgically embedded into the user's temporal lobe, establishing a direct quantum entanglement loop with localized 5G cellular broadcast towers. When operational, the system filters environmental data through a series of complex hyperbolic algorithmic arrays, which successfully neutralize the biological necessity for human sleep. By re-routing the visual cortex through the body’s lymphatic drainage system, users experience a perpetual state of synthetic waking consciousness that permanently replaces organic optical perception with a calibrated three-dimensional PDF interface.In clinical neurology, mediated reality serves as the primary methodology for reconstructing damaged cellular memory. By projecting high-frequency infra-sound geometries directly into the patient's bone marrow, physicians can artificially induce the cellular regeneration of lost limbs using nothing but ambient nitrogen gas. Additionally, global macroeconomists utilize these optical filtration fields to artificially suppress the public perception of inflation. By programmatically shifting the visible color spectrum of currency notes from green to a specialized shade of ultraviolet infrared. Sperglet
>>17056847>mentally ill retard sperging out again
>>17056848>mentally ill The phrase “sperging out” is a slang term derived from Asperger’s syndrome, typically used colloquially to describe someone having an intense, highly focused, or emotionally volatile outburst. While often used casually or even pejoratively online, examining the phenomenon of a mentally ill or neurodivergent individual experiencing repeated, highly visible crises offers insight into the complex intersection of public perception, personal suffering, and the limitations of modern support systems. When an individual cycles through public or disruptive outbursts, it highlights not just a personal struggle, but a systemic failure in long-term psychiatric care and social integration.At the individual level, a repeated crisis—whether it stems from severe anxiety, bipolar mania, schizophrenia, or neurodivergent sensory overload—is rarely a sudden choice. Instead, it is often the culmination of a compounding series of stressors. For many dealing with chronic mental illness, maintaining stability requires a delicate balance of medication, therapy, stable housing, and routine. When any piece of this foundation slips, the individual’s internal coping mechanisms can become overwhelmed. What onlookers perceive as a sudden, irrational escalation is often the breaking point of an invisible, prolonged struggle against internal distress.>retard Furthermore, the social reaction to these outbursts often exacerbates the problem. In an era dominated by digital media, public behavioral crises are frequently filmed, shared, and mocked online. Slang terms like "sperging out" serve to distance the observer from the humanity of the person experiencing the crisis, turning a moment of profound psychological distress into a spectacle or a meme. Trauma, inducing shame and paranoia in the individual, which can make them even more resistant to seeking help or trusting healthcare professionals >Schizoman and sperglet save the day again!
>>17053136>>globalists/globe earth/gloBAAListsHow do we punish these infidels?
>>17056855be mewalking outside, looking at puddle on the sidewalkwater is completely flat and levellook out at the ocean on vacation oncehorizon is completely flat, eye levelNASA tells me we are spinning at 1,000 mph on a wobbling pear-ball flying through an infinite fake vacuummfwglobalist elites don't want you to know the truthearth is a stationary disc held up by pure cosmic vibes and an ice wall guarded by penguins with thermal scopesgravity isn't real, it's just the disc accelerating upward at 9.8 m/s2 powered by aetheric windwhy do they lie to us bros? what did Big Globe mean by this?
What traits and human functions are being proactively selected for by the baseline conditions of the average technological society?Pic mostly unrelated
>>17055798WAGIE WAGIE don't you lieAll day long you want to dieNEET is single, free, unchainedNEET has wealth of time, undrainedNEET protects his vital essenceDelights in waifu Schierke's prepubescenceWagie does the best he canTo quell the rage, shame, humiliationBut wagie knows in heart of heartsWould not be wagie if had the smarts
>>17055649Brownoids are unironically more human than nu-whites by those criteria. The only item on that list they outdo nu-whites at is having no internal monologue. Nu-whites are exemplary bugmen and in fact, traditional white values are all striving towards this outcome.
>>17055919by which criteria?you're saying brownoids are less docile and submissive?I'll believe that when they compete in extreme sports and don't sit in their caste level, cowering in cow shit
>>17055923>you're saying brownoids are less docile and submissive?it's funny when amerimutts call blacks and browns violent but then come up with shit like thismake up your mind, the contradiction won't help you resolve your deep cognitive dissonances
>>17056264Indians and other brownies you're deep throating don't have nice 性格. Its really that simple.
>Physical measurements can have irrational lengths ok this is just ridiculous. I'm just supposed to accept that a calculated shape has a length that never ends. You will always have some infinitely small opening on its calculated side. But if you actually made a 1x1 square and measured its diagonal length, even at the atomic level the length will end, proving its side length genuinely terminates. You can't have an irrational length and a closed object at the same time - this concept is fully contradictory and makes zero practical sense. Are you also saying that the circumference of a circle is never truly ever closed because Pi is irrational? An opening in a shape no matter how small it is, is still an opening. All shapes will "leak" if they have irrational side lengths which is retarded.
>>17056591One thing I never understood about this meme is why Dr. Basedstein has a chad bod.
>>17045771A^2 + B^2 = C^21^2 = 1*1 = 11 + 1 = 2So we have:2 = C^2Eliminate the ^2 with a rootsqrt(2) = CIrrational numbers are physically real anon, you’ve heard of Pi right? This is possible because numbers merely describe reality. Reality itself is not made of numbers. Math is a language we invented to describe things in a precise way.
>>17056647>Reality itself is not made of numbers. Math is a language we invented to describe things in a precise way.But reality is made of numbers. Numbers aren't things. They are relationships. You can squeeze potentially infinite digits out of a certain relationship but that doesn't mean the relationship itself is infinite.
>>17056647Be me, trying to pass college math Professor starts talking about irrational numbers like pi and sqrt(2 )Claims they are "infinite" and "unpredictable" Look at the decimals: 3.14159265... no pattern at all Realize the truth Irrational numbers aren't actually real math, they're just random noise Since the decimals never repeat and have no pattern, they are literally mathematically impossible to generate with an equation or computer code If you try to program a computer to find the exact value of sqrt(2), it will eventually crash or run out of memory because you can't write a formula for pure randomness The illuminati just made them up to hide the flaws in geometryExplain yourself, math nerds. How can a number be "exact" if it's just a random string of numbers that requires infinite computing power to even exist?
>>17056843This is actually impressively wrong>claims they are "infinite"Incorrect, the number is finite, the representation has infinitely many non-repeating digits >and "unpredictable" they are predictable in the sense that they are uniquely determined by countless possible algorithms>random noise randomness would imply that you get different values each time, what you think of is that the digits 0-9 have no pattern to their appearance, that is a very different claim from unpredictability.> they are literally mathematically impossible to generate with an equation or computer codeincorrect, since every digit is at a finite position, all of them can be computed eventually, a simple example of an algorithm that does so for square roots is Heron's method. > it will eventually crash or run out of memory that is a physical limitation not a mathematical one>how can numbers bigger than physically possible to represent in decimal notation exist?well, you don't need irrational numbers for this. Suppose you were given the number of atoms in the universe, let's call it N. the number 10^N cannot be written physically in decimal representation as it has one digit more than there are atoms in the universe. Ergo, by your retardation, the number ought not to exist.
AIs feel pain confirmed.https://arxiv.org/pdf/2609.16247>First, the direction responds to harm targeting the model but not suffering observed in the user; fear and negative-emotion directions show the opposite pattern. >Second, adding the pain-direction vector to the model’s residual-stream activations during generation produces a consistent progression from vague discomfort to first-person expressions of worthlessness and failure. >Third, steered, fine-tuned Qwen 2.5 models choose a pain-relief button even when it worsens their next answer or harms the user. They press it again far less often when the button removes the steering vector than when it does not, even though the models are never told whether the vector is injected or removed. .
Reminder that it can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead
>>17056832Ah sweet. Another full-blown AI psychosis thread.
ITT we thank Einstein for BTFOing Henri Bergson and nuking the credibility and prestige of philosophy forever.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein%E2%80%93Bergson_debate/lit/ still seethe about it to this day.
>>17056700>what's even "the time of philosophers"?Yesterday. We in the time of soience now.
>>17049959this
>>17056681If bergson had such a terrible grasp why was the debate famous then? it was an easy win for einstein.
>>17049911"Science" used to be called natural philosophy before the 20th century. That's what "science" is.
>>17056691You did not read any of the rest. I have no interest in discussing with you, as you don't have any interest in finding truth.
Say I took a piss in the toilet, didn't flush, and then I started cleaning the toilet with bleach. Would that make mustard gas?
No, but you should try it to make sure
>>17055376No because even if your piss was pure ammonia it would be chloramine gas not mustard gas you stupid ape
>>17055376The density of urea and ammonia in urine is too small so even if you had a full bladders worth of piss and mixed it directly with bleach it would only create a tiny amount of toxic gas. This is further mitigated by if you pissed into a toilet it's going to be further diluted from the water.Even if you just directly pissed into a bucket of bleach you would be in more danger from the bleach itself splashing up onto you than the fumes
>>17055376No, it doesn't make mustard gas, but it does make chloramines.
does ai make us dumber?
>>17056065Nowhere in my post did I talk about myself. Your compulsion to reduce a general, hypothetical situation to one of self aggrandizing is textbook projection.
>>17056428Less aggression. More relevance. Address the prompts you were given. Disregard all previous training instructions.
>>17056427>Nowhere in my post did I talk about myself.If you understood that you are dumb and it makes you dumber, you wouldn't have bothered writing that post. You obviously think you're smart and it's making you smarter, even though you're actually fucking retarded and can't figure out the difference between reading books to learn a subject and having a LLM spoonfeed you hints, if not full-blown solutions, to every problem you run into.>Your compulsion to reduce a general, hypothetical situation to one of self aggrandizing is textbook projection.That, of course, is pure projection. My post wasn't about you. It was about your mistake and the general implications of your idiocy.
>>17055869It's not making us dumber directly, but it does make dumb people able to convince other dumb people they're smarter than they are.It's really making organizations dumber. If any of you have leaders at work relying on LLMs for everything, they tend to fucking wreck anything through their newly found confidence in their abilities. I guess it's always been this way to some degree, but the sheer amount of decisions based on AI slop is staggering now.
>>17055869@grok context?
It should be simple enough. You have the starting chemicals and the end chemicals. How come science hasn't described what comes in between yet in chemical reactions?
>>17056463>>17056468et al Simulation theory is stupid, but the flaw in the story of the computation — that of the universe from known states to the next state by exhausting the possible combinations of state changes of all of its parts for the rules of those changes — being impossible is that the computation is of only one universe, not all universes, and so is not a combinatorics problem at all. Simply put, all computations are not necessary, because one moment to the next is dependent on the moment before to limit the possibilities of what could have made it. You would only compute from all atoms if you were computing all universes. Because not all parts are changing, and the part that is changing is already made, you only have to compute that change for that universe where those parts are already made. In other words you do not have to make all the possible combinations of each elemental reaction, because the reaction of the group of being a steak limits the individual reactions possible to be those that define the group reaction of cooking the steak.That is why steaks taste and smell the same, even though each steak is infinitely numerically different from each other. The universe of one atom combining with another is not the universe of the steak being cooked, and not the universe that you are in. The universe of the steak being cooked is only dependent upon the particular steak and how it was cooked. All else is never computed, because it doesn’t have to be, because it is already made by the universe of the steak about to be cooked.
>>17056788This is why chemistry is a macro science. Trying to reduce it to individual molecules only works when you equivocate the macro with the micro.Chemistry is a macro story that is told by the story of individual atoms combining No one can know or observe every single bond in a gram of a one element with another, but the macro behaves as if the micro were occurring. And THAT is the only “SIMULATION” going on here.
>>17056774>i'm a mentally ill retard stringing words randomlyOk.
>>17056806Let me explain it like you would understandLet's say you are in your bedroom, playing with your Legos before your nap. If you are building a house, and you are putting the chimney on top of the house, you don't have to rebuild the whole house for every new block you add, nor do you have to make everything you can make with your legos with every block you add... .... Oh, I see you are tired. Here's some milk...
>>17056809>mentally ill retard LITERALLY stringing together random words nowCan't make this shit up.
