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>>16945891
Irrelevant; it's the loss of information that I resent.
A shift in time isn't more inherently lossy than a translation in position. What matters is the discretization versus continuum. In the latter, it is necessarily lossy, but in the former, it is not.
Consider the humble doubling sequence [math]n_k=2n_{k-1}[/math] for [math]n_k\in\mathbb N[/math]. Given any [math]n_k[/math], you instantly know the entire sequence. If we assign the index within the sequence ([math]_k[/math]) as time, then you "change" as you go through it. But there is no loss of information, the entire sequence is preserved.
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>>16945986
If you eat, breathe, shit, sleep, think, talk, write, those create lossy states. Burning of the calories is a lossy action state. Information state is lost upon change from one state to another a human body. The state change is slow for some non-reactive elements and we dont know if there are any non-lossy particles in the universe at all even at their base state.
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>>16945992
Can you please define lossy? Your definition is clearly incongruent with the one I have laid out.
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>>16946001
Lossy is lossy. You lose cells, you lose information. The fundamental being changes, one bit at a time, to millions/billions of information states each breathing period. The trillions of microns eat/poop inside the body also shift as you're going along your daily life. The entire biome mass goes through multiple generations each day.

If we're classifying human body as the whole of the body, then the whole of the body is constantly is cycle of birth and death inside the body.

And for thoughts and minds, the conscious mind forgets 99.99% of the daily information and only keeps a low resolution snapshot of memory daily that is extremely shoddy and blurry.
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>>16946011
You seem unprepared for this discussion; I encourage you to investigate what lossy means and information theory.

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There's some studies which suggest erythritol and aspartame are linked to cancer, heart attack, and stroke, but there's a lot of people who suggest these studies are unreliable because they are funded by corporations who make products using sugar.

How do I determine the validity of a study for myself? What are your opinions on artificial sweeteners?
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A better solution is to stop eating overly sweet things.
Then you won't need sugar or its substitutes.
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>>16943142
Just eat berries. At the grocery store: frozen organic berries are a banger for a buck and they are better than the "fresh" moldy berries.
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They are all poisons. Also it's put in the worst food and drinks.
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>>16944318
you know, I'd push back on this, frankly. when it was white educated men debating philosophy in good faith, purely in the pursuit of knowledge, then I think considering ad hominem arguments fallacious was probably appropriate. when it's satanic DEI billionaires making sophisticated and likely self-serving arguments in pursuit of the mighty dollar, I'm not so sure. ask yourself, and be honest: would they have published the study if the conclusion was that erythritol was good for you, cured dental caries and led to lower weight and blood pressure in at-risk groups, and basically was superior to sugar in every way? that's the difference.
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>>16945811
>would they have published the study if the conclusion was
Yes. The scientists being paid to conduct these studies still get paid regardless of their findings. They work in a different department from the marketing team.

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I’m writing a journal on perspectives of consciousness. I just made this part of Phineas Gage. Could anyone familiar with his story and psychology tell me if my writing is accurate and makes sense and if there is anything I should add?
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>>16945913
grok
gemini
claude
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>>16945999
HOW ABOUT
NO AI AT ALL.
HUH? FAGGOT? EVER CONSIDERED THAT?
AI DESKILLING IS A THING. AND IT HAPPENS QUITE A FUCKING LOT.
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>>16946003
Might I add...
But not only deskilling, no no no. AI has a whole laundry list of negative consequences and you will be worse off as a human being on so many levels after using it. it's literally designed to destroy humanity.
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>>16946003
I asked grok what you were posting and it responded that you're a trannysaur
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>>16946008
You are so retarded. You need to be euthanized, AInigger.

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Mushrooms edition

>What goes here?
- "Vibe science"
- Computer science relating to AI
- Discussions of how AI will interact with science
- Pretty much anything related to AI that is on-topic for /sci/

In short, keep the board [math]clean[/math] and throw all of your slop here.
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>>16943459
>i just associate posts with personal insults as being a bit mean-spirited.

This is kind of integrated into the site's culture. Nobody would actually care irl.
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>>16943461
i dunno, i've been on this site for longer than i care to admit and i like to think i can tell the difference between a friendly spar and a bit of the old butthurt. but what do i know.
i'm a bit bored now, so you have a nice day, anon.
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>>16943467
Shit evolves when the old stuff gets boring. Guten Tag, Freund. Have a nice day as well.
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>thread has been up for almost 4 days
>there are still retards shitting up the board with slop and slop ballwashing
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Bump

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Really try to think about what it’s like up there, sealed inside the bony vault of the skull, trying to figure out what’s out there in the world. There’s no light, no sound, no anything — it’s completely dark and utterly silent. When trying to form perceptions, all the brain has to go on is a constant barrage of electrical signals which are only indirectly related to things out there in the world, whatever they may be. These sensory inputs don’t come with labels attached (‘I’m from a cup of coffee’, ‘I’m from a tree’). They don’t even arrive with labels announcing their modality — whether they are visual, auditory, sensations of touch, or from less familiar modalities such as thermoception (sense of temperature) or proprioception (sense of body position).
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>>16945985
Blablablabla.
*Starts playing music*
I'm gonna fart this thread up like you wouldn't believe it.
Fart it up with the crap in my pants.
It's gonna be stinky, it's gonna be sucky
But that's nothing compared to my cock in OP's mouth.
Refrain;
Fart it, suck it, fart it up, oh ye.
Fart it, suck it, fart it up, oh ye.
It's gonna be stinky, it's gonna be sucky
But that's nothing compared to my cock in OP's mouth.

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I am convinced that calling it the white american nazi gas chambering operation instead of calling it climate change makes it much easier to understand what's going on.
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Banger.
Not a David Dees level, but you have potential to be professional schizo if you hone the artistry.
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>>16945615
that's the gas chamber's shield
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it's not schizophrenia, you all americans are just nazis.

Those are clearly gas chambers.

Are you fucking blind?
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>>16945570
https://voca.ro/19NM3A7p4bdd
https://voca.ro/1nzPBG8US8ip

I have 4 large boxes of legos.
I wonder how I could put them to use - build something for my living room. Either just something arty, or something to put stuff on. Although realistically, there's not enough stable parts to place plants on it. I mostly want to use as much parts as possbile. Possibly I'll just do a wall of sorts. Ideas?
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>>16938601
Black Sun
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>>16938605
Not quite my style, but I'll also likely go for something slightly more flat, floor based, although going up the wall is fine too.
In either case, I want to use a lot of the stuff I have.
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>>16938601
Bake them into a solid ingot of ABS plastic and stick in some table legs as it solidifies.
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build a gun
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p6IUhfWK58

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Interesting that scientists waited until AI became advanced enough before doing another “trip to the moon”
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>>16945621
To test some things in advance of the landing
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw
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>>16945621
>he doesn't know about the darkside bases
Yes, yes, just flying by to say "We did it, America!" : )
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It's all a big LARPfest
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>>16945679
>thinks anyone does this shit for profit and not socially engineered narratives
goyim are so stupid

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Would FTL travel actually break casualty or is it just bullshit?
I'm too retarded to understand it, but it does sound like bullshit
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What if you're manipulating the values of relative permeability and permittivity if the vacuum to artificially raise or lower the maximum value of c in your small region of space? You're not going "faster than light" you're just raising the speed limit. You also now remember LiJun Wang at the NEC Laboratory Princeton in year of our Lord 1999.
https://www.scribd.com/document/208319/NEC-Time-Travel-Experiment-in-2000
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If a true vacuum is impossible how do we know the speed of light in a vacuum?
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>>16930780
you can already travel to another galaxy in seconds (in theory). if you can accelerate arbitrarily close to speed of light in arbitrarily short amounts of time, from your reference it would be nearly instant and you could travel anywhere in the universe. to everyone on earth it would take millions/billions of years and of course in reality the technology needed to give you the practically infinite amounts of energy needed to do such a thing probably isnt possible, but theres nothing about the laws of physics that says you cant.
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Some kinds would.

Physics might allow the kind where you have a gate at both ends but your have to get there the slow way at least once to set up the gate
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>>16936525
Yes

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Holy fucking kino!

Any xpectations for the alien bases censorship on the dark side of the moon?
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>>16943568
do you mean pixelated alien porn?
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>>16943568
fake image.
the light source is the Sun, to the right.
so whats lighting the left of the craft that should be in total darkness?
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>are we there yet?
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If aliens are real, they are monitoring this trip

Expect absolute silence from anyone coming up with qurstions to the astronauts. Tehre were famous comments from the Apollo program astronauts that they saw crafts during the voyage toward the moon.
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>>16943785
Indirect lighting.
Surfaces reflect light. You literally wouldn't be able to see them if they didn't.

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if the electron can be in one orbit or in another around the atom, but not in the middle, how does it go from one to the other? does it just teleport?
you know adults don't believe in teleportation, do you?
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>>16944773
bot reply. pathetic, jannies really are resorting to chatgpt to incite interaction
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>>16944777
i am a human lol

i am bored and wanted more people to reply tho. this board is kinda slow, and a lot of posts read like drivel from /pol/tards who are convinced they have found the grand unified theory and the jews don't want anyone to know or something
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>>16944777
these are me btw.
>>16944528
>>16944568
>>16944570
>>16944773
>>16944791
I am a musician who isn't formally educated in physics tho, other than just reading stuff for fun, or making stupid things like a synthesiser that uses modeled frequency relationships of spherical harmonics/electron orbitals to generate cool sounds etc. so i might be massively retarded and wrong, in which case please tell me why!
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>>16944557
>"deterministic" "reality"
delusional. None of these experiments disagree with wave function based theories, and most of them model with with greater computational ease than anything bohmtards can cook up.
>>16944573
>most popular trajectory crankery ("""pilot waves""") barely skirts the 5% mark
I don't much care about the COPEnhagen interpretation but if you merge it with epistemic approaches it tells you that 57% of people consider QM indeterministic in the bohm schizo sense plus another 15% that basically deem the idea of wave function collapse to be bogus in the first place.
This (+2%) yields 74% of people that would agree on the wave function being deterministic and that see no reason to add hidden variable nonsense into the theory just to have trajectories
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>>16944809
>>I am a musician who isn't formally educated in physics tho
Frankly, that gives you a much better starting point than most physicists who, thanks to their education, all suffer Newtonian baby duck syndrome.
>waah waah
>what do you mean I can't draw an electron as a kepler orbit
>what do you mean I have to use linear algebra I wanna use calculus
It's so fucking annoying and floods the field with people trying to complicate the theory. As a musician you at least have a natural understanding of a spanning set, non-orthogonal basis sets, superposition and acoustics (which manifest in EM interactions as well for small cavities)

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maybe a good idea?
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>>16943090
You can't just arbitrarily crossbreed unrelated plants. Crossing a citrus and a tumbleweed is like trying to breed a cow with a house cat.

Drought resistant crops are an active field of research but genetic modification is a regulatory pain in the ass.
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>>16943096
>genetic modification is a regulatory pain in the ass
This is a big problem for many industries. Like, it's practical and sane that there is regulation, but the sheer extent has really held back a lot of progress.
Food production, conservation (right now there are species of fish that could be saved through modifying them with killifish pollution resistance genes but instead we're just letting them go extinct), construction (we could be modifying multiple strains of trees for faster growth, different material properties like reduced fammability or extra tensile strength or hardness or whatever, but that research has only really just started), law enforcement (there's a real hesitance to clone exceptional dogs or modify dogs to have better senses of smell or strength and stamina) and pretty much any other area that uses biological materials or living organisms for functional purposes.
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>>16943096
>is like trying to breed a cow with a house cat
Take this and cross it with a fruit.

At this point Im kind of curious.
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>>16945713
Imagine a milk-apple, it just needs cinnomon and allspice. Bake it...or ferment, and enjoy with wine and cheese.

A fucking grape vine doesnt taste like a grape but a grapple exists.
[crosses arms]

What does /sci/ think of the science of psychiatry?

Is it ethical to lock up a patient against their will and forcibly inject them with antipsychotics - drugs which have effects like shrinking the brain, obesity, muscle spasms, anxiety, and sometimes risky behaviour such as gambling and reckless spending?

Perhaps patients should instead be allowed to make informed choices about what psychiatric medications they take?
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that's neat, can you show me the MRI findings consistent with a diagnosis of schizophrenia? First break psychosis would be cool. I still have all my imaging on discs somewhere
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>>16933643
In 2025, I was hospitalized against my will twice. The first time, I was using bupropion without a prescription (only 150mg per day) and I had seizures, so they forcibly hospitalized me. The second time, I had taken 30mg of zolpidem to get high and they hospitalized me. They forced me to take antipsychotics, and I gained 16kg. The lithium they forced me to take caused swelling in my feet.
Today I still take controlled medications without a prescription; in March 2026, I took 70mg of zolpidem, which...
MY BODY IS MINE AND I PUT WHAT I WANT INSIDE MY BODY! NO ONE SHOULD BE HOSPITALIZED AGAINST THEIR WILL!
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I think a lesser known failure of psychiatry is the treatment of the types of restricted eating caused by things like autistic sensory issues. Most doctors treat this kind of restricted eating by denying its existence, and those who do acknowledge its existence take a psychiatric approach: The problem is the patient’s head, we need to manipulate their thoughts to make them normal. In practice this means coercing the patient eat “healthy” foods they are afraid of, which frequently fails to make the patient regularly eat new foods because eating the new foods is painful for them, and depending on the type of coercion the patient may be traumatized as well. The idea is that the psychiatrist makes the patient normal first, and health will naturally come after that. Health is literally not the priority. When treating people with these kinds of eating restrictions, health should be the priority, not normalcy, and that means running bloodtests to determine what nutrients they are actually physically lacking and working within their restrictions to overcome these deficiencies rather than coercing them to eat iceberg lettuce and damaging their relationship to food in the long term.
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>>16933643
It's nonsense.
>Used to smoke a ton of weed
>Forcibly admitted to hospital for manic episode
>In hospital for a month
>Spend 5 collective minutes with any doctor asking me questions
>Nobody ever asks about my lifestyle
>Doctor tells me "You're bipolar, so you'll always be bipolar"
>They give me meds that make me want to kill myself
>Stop taking psychiatric drugs as soon as I'm out of the hospital
>Stop smoking weed for years
>Start smoking a lot of weed again
>Back in hospital within a few months
>They give me drugs that make my hair fall out and want to kill myself again
>Again, nobody asks me about my lifestyle

There's no method to anything they do. They just want to give you drugs and move you down the pipeline. They probably hope you kill yourself based on the reaction I've had to the drugs they've given me. They never ask about your habits that may be making you depressed or what kinds of illicit drugs you're self medicating with. They just think "This is what happens to some people. They're bipolar and we can't fix it"

It's total bullshit
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>>16945223
Stop smoking thc, please do not use thc, it makes the mental illness worse.
T. Former severe thc user.
Thc induces schizophrenia especially at high doses.
Eat lots of fruit and veg, avoid sugar. Excercise daily.

if you have an asteroid or another object entering the orbit of let's say earth, what happens to gravity when you push it back with a super heavy force? sorry i know jack shit about physics
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For the object to enter a stable orbit it would have to slow down. An asteroid can't do that on its own.

If it did slow down and enter our orbit the way you would "push it back" would actually involve accelerating it to go faster to leave orbit. Most energy efficient way to do this would be increasing its orbit until it interacts with Luna and gets slingshotted outta here.

Gravity wouldn't notice it's presence in the slightest unless it was very large.
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>>16935924
OwO
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>>16936111
The human?
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>>16935924
Oh noooo don’t rape me nooooo :(
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>>16935924
Physics 101 - Draw a force diagram of all the independent force vectors acting on the object to figure out the net force and direction/angle the object will be moved by the collective forces acting upon the object.

Why isn't there a way to store muscle like fat?
>le caveman hunting once a week and fasting for the rest of it theory
Wouldn't the food spoil in your stomach?
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>>16945274
>picture in no way relates to the topic of the thread.
Peculiar, isn't it? But I don't expect any real human to visit these boards nowadays.
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>>16945300
Needless to say. OP is obviously a bot producing completely incoherent gibberish.
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>>16945301
>>16945300
Answer the question faggots
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>>16945274
Cavemen hunted once a week because the hunt yielded hundreds of kilograms of meat that kept the tribe fed for the week. They did not have extended fast periods except by necessity. If the only thing the hunt produced was couple rabbits they would hunt the next day again immediately. Meat keeps for a long time using various preservation techniques like cold, in salt, dried out, pickled etc.
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>>16945585
Back then "fasting" was a consequence of living in the wilderness, but also where we as "animals" evolved into the most.

I highly recommend doing a long fast atleast once, it can alter your perspective about everything like some mushroom trip but, you know, sober.

>>16945274
>Wouldn't the food spoil in your stomach?
They would live in states of gorging and fasting, like most predators, consistent feeding came later.


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