A newbie in need of recommendations for a cheap tent, preferably under 250 bucks. I've heard about tents like Lanshan 1, but I'd rather ask first some proper autists before committing to anything.My main goals are to have something that'll last a while and withstand a storm.Not going to camp in the winter but would be good to if it could be 4 season.
>>2848503Save up for Durston X-Mid 2. If not, go with Paria Bryce 1P/2P. Lanshan needs to be waterproofed before you take it out plus a whole lot of modifications due to storm complications. If you want something that last, go for a waxed cotton canvas like the Thornhill, preferably 3x3-4x4m imo (weights a ton though). X-Mid 2 was my favorite due it's weight when I did normal hiking, but when I was homeless I went for the Thornhill Classic 3x3m. If you decide with the Paria Bryce, check out their budget sleeping bags, I used it for -25 celcius and it worked great, it's a fucking steal.
>>2848503Gatewood cape.>t. thru-hiker.
Tent thread is up already. Idiot
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>>2848503Depends what you want the tent for.I haven't used a tent /out/ in years.Sometimes I put a rain fly and mosquito net over a cot if i'm camping near my car/road. If I'm deeper in the woods I like a hammock. If i'm really deep I usually use a tarp, mosquito net, and rope. Otherwise for fun i'll sometimes do wilderness survival bullshit where I make my own shelter. I always tear it down after because leave no trace.Under 250 bucks you aren't going to get high quality shit that does it all. >>2848570Pretty good opinion.
Were we ever really safe in San Antonio?
>>2843998Leave while you can. Theres nothing in Commifornia that you csnt get anywhere else. Well, except the giant redwoods I guess.But there is nothing there for you. Your safety and wallet are in the most danger.
>>2844415i will incorporate this into my decision making
>>2843998tf are you talking about OP? san antonio is badass, unless you and your family are clown faggots who live out by seaworld.
>>2845117Literally what is there to do /out/side in Texas? The entire state is private land.
>>2844415Coastal NorCal is better than any coastline on the East Coast.
I just want to remind all the seething chuds that I went to glacier np this year and you didn't.
>>2846575looks at all those faggots behind the stop barrier
>>2846614>North CascadesWhat did you do? Did you actually visit or did you just drive hwy 20?
>>2846614God damn this guy is flexing.
>>2846578Me too. Shit was cash. Cutthroats were jumping
>>2846574I just want to remind you that while you were there I was busy climbing your moms crater
Is trad climbing based and trad?
>>2844927>No don't drill the hecking rockerinos
>>2844934ty anon i want to get into ice at some point but i need to find a good mentor for that, any tips?
>>2840751How do I get a trad wife whose gear I can safely drop on?
Garbage thread
>>2845183t. never gone outside
What camelbak hydration bladders do you guys like/use? Have you had any bad experience with any particular brands? Are some materials better than others?
I use the Dachgo Hydration bladder (3l)What I like:you want ones with circular screw off lids the other kinds are harder to use and you don't want the kind with like a clip on top sealing it eitherand it has two chambers so ice water doesn't make sloshing noises while you hikealso I think the hoses that come with them are the good kind - meaning it connects to a plastic mouthpiece that can be set to always open or closed with a twist valvebut - I buy the, unfortunately expensive, camelbak big bite mouthpieces, because the included ones you can't get nearly enough water down at once with I am in the market for a replacement backpackwhat I have now is a slightly older camelbak backpack design 20L and its just too small but its otherwise great other than that the back straps give up after a year or two what I like is it has zippered small outside pockets so i can keep my wallet/meds within easy reach without having to put the backpack down and rifle through a main chamber - and I can't seem to find anything like that in a slightly larger size - so I can carry more gear maybe 30-40L is what I want
>>2848191>You have to get one that is easy to clean or you will be drinking moldy water.I have never once cleaned a bladder except when I first buy them and have never encountered mold.
>>2848199then you are unaware of what mold is and looks like.
>>2848209Is there anything wrong with drinking mouldy water?
Osprey is the best brand. They are made from the same material they use for hospital use.
I love being outdoors, love hunting camping hiking fishing, all of it. Been doing it all since a kid. But I have a huge problem with being scared of the dark. I'm alright as long as there's someone else with me, but when I'm alone out deep enough into the woods I can't help but be debilitatingly scared of the dark.It's so bad that I have to have my hand on my gun at all times once the sun goes down, I even piss in a bottle at night so I don't have to leave the tent. It's hard to sleep because I'm hyper alert to every sound, and as you know there are a lot of them at night. So my question is, has anyone else felt with this and how did you over come it?
>>2845723Not my fault youre a retard and DIDNT LINK THE POST YOU WERE REPLYING TO.Dumb cunt.
You seem pleasant.
>>2846583>>2846572Shut up and touch grass you plebians. This is the /out/ board, we are above this petty bickering.
>>2844571Like you and others have said, exposure therapy really is gonna be the solution 90% of the time, some people take longer than others though. And a psychiatrist would give you a list of coping mechanisms specific to the situation, but sometimes people need meds to bring the cortisol and adrenaline levels down enough to where you are able to effectively apply the coping mechanisms. That's the thing with psychotropics, they aren't a cure, they're ment to bring you down to a level that you are able to apply the coping mechanisms, then once the coping mechanisms become natural to you, you're then supposed to ween off the meds. Because when you're brain is physically incapable of developing new memories and learn while cortisol and adrenaline are active in your system. Thats neurological fact, not just some therapy mumbo jumbo.
Haha
How good is it? Are 14thousanders too easy?
>>2848285It's fucking awesomet. West slope
>yoo 14 thousanders are so hard man>trailhead you drive to starts at 10-12 thousand feet for mostmost are just a test of who can handle AMS or not.
>>2848314Even with a car you may feel ill-equipped out here
>>2848285A scrawny beanpole like this can hike them all in about a week, so yes they are too easy
>>2848285See https://www.14ers.com/routes_bydifficulty.php
this home owner confronted me about my headlamp being too bright and it causing his dog to freak out. my usual walk at night to the park. i just got a nitecore nu20 classic and did have it on the high setting (prob like 300 lumens) cause this part of the street is pitch black. usually use my flashlight pointed at the ground at this part but it was pretty damn cool illuminating the whole area. was I being rude? i told the guy sorry about that. i thought it's pretty fair game as long as i'm not looking at people's houses and stuff
>>2846996>was I being rude?Yes. Shinning a bright light into others eyes is rude.
>>2846996idk what the normie obsession with using the biggest brightest possible light at all times isyou should be using the dimmest light possible
>>2846996Practice walking around at night with no lights. Only turn your headlamp on if you need high visual acuity like to shoot a mugger or something.
>>2847108>Also I feel like the guys dog would have barked at me regardless if my light was on 20 lumens or 300 lumens.It would have, dogs are c u n t s when it comes to lights, or just in general where I live.t. got bit by an out of control leashed Malinois whilst on my mountain bike.
>>2847006>No one likes wierdos walking around the neighborhood after darkright back at you
SUV vs Truck. What is the more /out/ vehicle?
>>2843395>SUV vs Truck. What is the more /out/ vehicle?Truck.
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>>2843395My Sedancomfynever failed me on service roads with the right tiresand no I don't go rock climbing of course or river crossing
Thoughts?5" and brown handle
>>2847709>>2847736>>2847764I used a mora compaion for about 7 years-ish and it worked alright enough but after switching to a real knife last year the mora comes across as something you'd give to a kid or a NEET because something is is better than nothing which makes sense because I got mine while I was jobless.I'm never using a mora again though, I did try the garberg which was abit better but BPS knives are better and cheaper.
>>2848126>BPS knives are better and cheaper.lol what. That's not true.also, people shouldnt support the corrupt shithole that is shitkraine
>>2841892I like my mora bushcraft black
>>2848193Was just an example, I'm not here to moralfag
>>2841892mora peaks at companion and everything above that is wasted money
Where else? Probably not some shithole like Nepal.
>>2847886>we don't have to deal with the everyday hassles of living up in the high alpine areaswhen I lived in bend the roads were covered in snow and ice from nov-apr and you needed studded tiresand you couldn't really hike without snowshoes until july in the higher elevation and by higher i just mean like 5-6k ft
just wanna mention that DAMN that resolution is good tho, how the fuck is this a jpg
>>2848165I've heard about years like that but haven't experienced one yet, last winter/spring only had a single 2-week storm and a few other scattered days where ice and snow were an issue and this season has been really mild so far, the mountains already have a bunch of snow on them (pic from last week) but we've basically only had rain in town and the forecast seems like it's gonna stay that way for at least the next 10 days. (Though you're probably well aware of how unreliable forecasts are here.) I think the general consensus here is that studs are only really necessary if you live in one of the higher mountain communities or go to Bachelor a ton, otherwise studless are fine and a lot of people just run all terrains (actual winter rated ones though) with 4WD. I did OK with 4WD and Wildpeak AT3Ws last year but I was able to sit the few bad days out, now I'm commuting to Redmond all week so I'll probably have to get something more serious. That aside, the high elevation stuff is definitely snowed in for a long time, but the flipside is that you get to enjoy lots of winter sports and you can always head north or east out to the more deserty areas if you want hiking conditions early in the season.
>>2847689THIS is where every mountainfag wants to live.
I already wanna live where I want to live as a mountainfag and that is PA portion of Appalachia
>Forest in the morningBlissful >Forest in the afternoonCool and safe refuge>Forest at sunsetEtherial and calming>Forest in the black of nightAbsolute terror and fear How do I overcome this? Exposure therapy? I was so tired by the second night of my hike it didn't matter as much but every little sound freaks me the fuck out. I'm a 28 year old 200 pound man, why does it scare me?
>>2840056Cave Niggas
>>2839476exact same boat op. 28 year old man 200lbs 6'3 and saw a baby bear and it's mother maybe 15ft from where i was camping and then every sound at night i was paranoid was a bear. my girlfriend kept jumping up with the flashlight and i was playing it cool for her peace of mind like "nah it's nothing dont worry about it" but once she was asleep i was awake listening to every sound. i think she got in my head but what gave me peace of mind was reminding myself this is what i signed up for and they're more scared of you than you are of them. if you have your food locked away they're not going to waste their time fucking with you. they dont want to eat you while you're sleeping. it's spooky but sometimes but maybe play some ambient music through a speaker to ease you in to it, helped me when i was paranoid as hell
It is nice to acclimatize to the dark; the woods at night are something special. If you can adventure out into the dark at night with reckless abandon you can enjoy some real adventures.The risk depends on where you live and what's around, but really /out/ at night is awesome.
>>2839476>How do I overcome this?Hike with friends or like you said..>Exposure therapy?I always find it easier as well when I have a purpose and a gun (hunting, tracking, foraging, cutting wood for a fire, etc).
>>2844660I live in a 3rd world shithole and campers have gotten accidentally killed by poachers here before. Even I heard gunshots at night one time when I was camping.Also one time I got woken up at 5AM by a deer in heat hitting the ground and trees around me while making guttural noises. Had no idea if it was actually gonna do something to me, but I was pretty spooked.
Ultralight hikers are the biggest joke on the mountain. They roll up bragging like they’re the elite of the outdoors because they shaved 200 grams off their kit at the cost of thousands of dollars, but really, they’re just trust-fund babies playing wilderness cosplay. Every sentence out of their mouth starts with “my base weight is…” as if anyone cares. They obsess over spreadsheets and gram counts like they’re planning a moon landing, but then forget the basics: no first aid kit, no proper knife, not even a damn multi-tool. They’re the ones asking to borrow your lighter, your tape, your stove, basically turning everyone else into their personal gear supplier while pretending they’re hardcore minimalists.And let’s be real: these people don’t actually hike. They wander just far enough to snap a staged Instagram pic of their titanium spork and their $600 ultralight tarp pitched at a bad angle, then head back to town to sip craft beer and write a self-congratulatory blog post about how they’re “living simply.” They’re allergic to actual dirt, rain, or effort. The only thing ultralight about them is their personality.The worst part? They’re always the ones Search and Rescue has to haul out because they thought a space blanket, two protein bars, and a selfie stick counted as survival gear. Meanwhile, the people with “heavy” packs are the ones who have to hand over their food, tent pegs, rope etc. Ultralight hikers aren’t minimalist pioneers they’re freeloading disasters waiting to happen, more concerned with clout than competence. Strip away the Instagram filters and the $500 shoes, and you’re left with what they really are: clueless posers cosplaying adventurers, desperate for likes while everyone else carries their dead weight.
>>2842126ive never even encoutered an ultrafag how leeches are they
>>2846491The Venn diagram for ultralight fags and "cotton kills" fags has a lot of overlap.
>>2848169Me neither, i guess their gear is too gucci to risk getting smudged by a speck of dirt in the wildLike 99% of guys I've seen on my outings either use aliexpress specials or ancient milsups they got from their grand-grand-grand-grandpas. The one guy i did saw using ultralight shit arrived in a fucking car i can't help but wonder to this day why did he even bother getting ultralight gear in that case
>>2848170its almost like ultralighters and anti cotton people actually both go outside for more then 12 hour periods and know cotton is useless with a laundry machine.
>>2842126>your lighter, your tape, your stove,You don't need a stove, you need to know how to make a good fire- and here you are, posting like you a true outdoorsman. Tape? What for? Unless you mean that blaze orange hunting tape to mark your trail when you bag a buck. Sure, first aid kit is great, but why would you need some multi-tool? A swiss army knife? Those are shitty tools to begin w/.
On big mountains you have established trails made in such a way hundreds of people who hike them every day don't die. On small mountains you're usually alone and instead of a trail there are just steep slopes covered with dirt that falls down under each of your steps and to descend you need to use your ass as a sledge and all limbs as brakes.
>>2847435For a hike, yeah. But for actual climbing, no.
>>2847435Where are you that anything big enough to be considered a mountain doesn't have a trail?
>>2847435I had my sketchiest hike on an unassumingly small mountain, yeah. Realizing you can't go forward or back the way you came because of the the terrain, it's beginning to rain and daylight is soon running out. That's scary. It made me understood how people can fall to their deaths in these situations.
I think that higher elevation mountains can get really intimidating with weather, and way higher commitment just due to the increased distances from the car. Some of the more isolated ranges in Wyoming have several mile walk ins and if the weather turns bad, or you get hurt it can be potentially life threatening very easily even with sar. But you can just as easily fall off some weird exposed section on smaller mountains in the east as in the west. I think the issue is primarily a matter of human traffic. Mountains with more foot travel regardless of height get ground in and trundled so there seems to be way less risk of falling rocks or bad footings in exposed spots. But there are also more people which comes with lots of problems of it's own. Like having to get cocksucking parking permits and other gay shit in Colorado.
I planted way to many fucking basil seeds. should I just yank a couple of the little fags out? or try to transplant them like this? I think theyre close to being ready to move to a pot but Im afraid they'll start dying from lack of nutrients/space in the little plot
true leaves are finally in, maybe 2 more days before I pull and plot. other herb seeds finally showing real growth too. not gonna lie, coming home from work and seeing how much theyve grown is kind of the only thing I have to look forward to in my life. I think I love plants. >>2847941>>2847970this sounds good but all the resources online seem to say you should grow them in a cool place but the fridge should only be for storing afterwards since its too cold, still Ill look further into it.
also once this thread dies ill move over to the /hgm/ thread like I should have posted this in to begin with. didnt lurk long enough. sorry.
>>2847996>the fridge should only be for storingYoure not trying to grow them into plants, you eat them as soon as they sprout.
I have basil under a grow light but it doesn't seem to be doing much. Im not sure why
>>2848110send pics, whats the temp of your home/how often do you water?
