Is acting like a possessed demon the best way to scare off animals? I feel like acting big and shouting is a good first step, but the truly unnerving human is the one switching between snarling, gasping, waving their tongue, and panting. Is this effective on animals, or does it really only trip out people instead?
>>2798396Don't forget to throw something at the animals
>>2798396Doesn't work for bees.
>>2798396Can't really tell an animal to fuck off in a calm voice, sometimes you gotta meet them on the same level or just one level more if they not respectin the area you want them out of, thats why you gotta look big and not worth it vs bears even if you'll never be physically bigger than a grizzly,
Duh, the more scary you are the more you scare off animals But there are certain animals/situations where you don't want to be scary, in my area that's momma bears and boar.They don't get scared by scary things, they just kill the scary thing.
>>2798396Being a schizo makes animals want to attack you if they feel threatened, even goats. Maybe you should stay inside.
i never really post here, i live in an endless suburban hellscape and i would like to find a hobby to spend time outdoors, i need more sunshine and at least a little more physical activity in my life my budget is up to around $1500, im thinking about things like paddleboards ebikes, eskateboards but i cant decide. what would you guys do with this price range? i mostly want to find something that has to do with moving/travelling even though i have a car. an e-skateboard sounds really fun but i guess id only have bike trails to ride on one if thats even allowed, and it wouldnt really be a good workout at all, on the other hand a paddleboard would be a good workout but i could only use it in lakes and i could get eaten by an alligator and half the year is too cold to want to risk falling into the water and also it maybe a little too physically demanding for how little i can do with it. i wouldnt want to spend $1000 on one and then get bored. ive only tried a really good paddleboard (not a cheap inflateable one) and was really starting to like it though. looking for any opinions. also the area around me is flat and has lakes and tends to be on the warm or hotter side for most of the year but mostly its just suburbs everywhere for dozens of miles. thank you and please help im going stir crazy being indoors all the time
>>2798945If its designated Wilderness yeah. Also check specific trail regulations. Remember walkers traditionally get the right of way. Get on YouTube and teach yourself how to tune up an old bike, all you should need is an allen key.
>>2798931>>2798934>>2798943 Just go walking and hiking until you feel like doing overnight camping.
>>2798933I thought about rock climbing but the membership was like $100 a month or something and i said fuck it but maybe I will oje day
>>2798918>im not sure how these cheap inflatable ones would measure up to itthey're pretty gud anonif you're just doing lakes any performance difference doesn't really matter compared to the convenienceI leave one folded up in my trunk all summer and go to the lake after work a couple of times per week
>>2799016I have a shed id be able to keep it in I got one of these and I'm thinking I might get an inflatable paddleboard too
I havent seen dolphins since 2016. Im soo happyHave you ever had that animal encounter, that felt like something magical?
>>2798648i was on a two day canoe trip with my friend and there was a loon that followed us almost the whole way the first dayloons are uncommon here so it was unusual and i have seen maybe two in the following decadewe didn't bring a tent because of the portages so when a huge windy storm came in we slept halfway under a tarp and halfway under buggy pine boughs with a fire in our shelter (that was stupid)the next morning we set out and those red loon eyes were looking right at us and he followed us on the way back
I had a black bear stalking me for about 5 hours one night. I was just sitting at camp and it kept wandering around and circling and I would make noise and flash my lights and pile more wood on the fire, and eventually by like 2am it started just coming right at me so I noped right the fuck out in the middle of the night not even knowing if it was following me or not. That was pretty magical
saw a breaching humpback whale a few days ago, it was 3 miles away but I was walking my dog on a high hill by the sea and could see it well, the thing was fucking massive, initially I thought it was a big sailing boat that was flipping on it back like some horrible accidentI doubt I will ever see a whale again before I die, they're insanely rare where I am
>>2798853>That was pretty magicalyou wouldnt be saying that if it ate you alive
>>2799051True. It probably would have been vindictive and shat me out on my dad's doorstep, too :[
People summit mountains in the Rocky's all the time during winter without issue and they go to 15000ft. Why is Mount Washington so much harder despite being under 7000 ft?
>>2796988this isnt to scale
>>2796557Weather/thread/
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>>2796613>one of the pictures is of a Lamborghini at the summitFor fucks sake.
>>2798044Apparently the mountains know how to post on 4chan, thats not good.
Alrighty, I could give a gay sob story. But it doesn't matter. What matters is that I am prepared to go die innawoods. However, I want to see how long I can last there before I become worm food, as a personal challenge and nothing else. It's literally either die innawoods or shoot up a bunch of people and suicide via cop. I chose the former. I need advice in the...A: Best places to go where park rangers wont mess with me.B: Best places to get water, trapping, forage, etc C: Items I should take and get acquainted with and skills I should knowI don't know much about bushcrafting, I went to SERE school back in 2015, so I know how to read maps and use a compass and some basic stuff, but I'm no pro. Again, I don't expect to make it. I'd rather die in nature than be homeless in this liberal gay pavement ape drug infested shithole city I live in, and I don't want to be another antigun statistic if I stay here and inevitably snap further and "clean up the streets".>inb4 go kill yourself innawoodsThat's literally what I am doing, just slowly.
>>2798551>infrared camerashttps://www.amazon.com/s?k=night+vision+trail+camera+solarI didn't check the prices before, they look cheaper than expected. Some have a display but most of them just have sd card or wifi streaming to phone and both require a working phone to use (and card reader/adapter for phones).Will you bring your phone OP? how do you plan to charge it in the woods? there's folding solar chargers and power banks that can be used to keep your devices alive but they can still fail if you drop them or if they get too wet. It would be better to get a night vision trail camera that comes with its own display so you don't have to rely on a phone and it's more easy to use anyway.
You will need a rucksack with waist support so you don't break your spine. Should be hydrophobic or at least a water resistant rucksack for dry storage, and a big gym bag for tools you use often and stuff that you don't mind getting wet (like axe, traps or folding saw). To be useful a rucksack should be 80 liters or more, because you cannot keep much stuff in anything smaller than this. You can compress the volume of clothes and fabric in general using plastic zip bags, they are cheap as shit and very useful also for keeping delicate things dry like food, cables or devices. You might as well get a backup rucksack in case your main rucksack gets ripped or burnt (that would be the end of your journey for sure). Rucksacks can be folded and stuffed in another rucksack pocket, or just inside at the bottom of it.One very important thing you need to keep in mind is that in the wilderness there's humidity everywhere, you have to be careful where you put your rucksack and bag, even if you have to stop only for a few minutes. The bottom will get soaked wet and anything inside will stay wet for days unless you take it out and let it dry, which is time consuming and a pain in the ass especially if your rucksack is full of stuff to the brim. Humidity forms mostly on grass and smooth surfaces like stone.
>>2793415Any news OP?
>>2798567I'm just a humble (You) farmer, rotatin my crop of shit posts.
>>2793415Based Lars Monsen enjoyer. This guy inspired me to embrace the wilderness. Everybody on this board should watch: Across Canada (Lars Monsen travels across Canada, encountering wildlife around every corner)This guy (and also Magnus Carlsen) makes me proud of being Norwegian. What a legend
These things are exploding in population. Why are they still protected? These are monstrosities early explorers feared more than cannibal natives. We had their populations down for a reason. Why are we welcoming back IRL monsters that literally want to eat us? We shouldn't be doing that until we have some sort of reliable technology where we can implant each one with a paralysis mechanism if it's close to a human and has the urge to attack. Hook up a bear nuerolink or some shit. But letting these things roam free is a hippie delusion. Wtf are we doing?
The park rangers don't want you to know this but the bears in the forest are free. I have two dozen bears in my backyard.
>>2739570>>2790846Just found out the grizzly bear will remain on the Endangered list for the foreseeable future....so the Feds dont agree with you OP
>>2739570you're a moron that doesn't understand the delicate balance of a ecosystem, go plant bass in a river because bass good and kill off the entire ecosystem with them because they are apex predator in a environment that isn't adapted to surviving themnature requires the wolves and the bears and the bugs and every damn yucky / annoying / deadly thin in between to prevent the herbivores from eating themselves to extinction by ruining the flora in their habitat>we should tamper with their lives and make animals have some fucked up dystopian tech implanted into themgo back to the desert where you belong you tard
>>2739570>be human.>invade basically any ecosystem and niche there is.>claim the wilds.>exploit the wilds.>kill for centuries for banal profits.>kill whole species out of existence.>claim the wilds finally as a holiday resort region.>meeh to much wildlife which doenst acknowldege me as crown of creation.>still goes into the wilds for "recreation".>some get eaten - its natural selection.>meeh - my vacation from natures exploitation ist fucked now.>go to 4fag.>grizzlies should be eliminated.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2798960>habituating bears to human provided foodWhat could go wrong?
>plants>on earth for trillions and billions of years>2 million years ago: humans *exist*>1776: america created>today: NOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT PLANNT SPECIES IS INVAAAAAAAASSSIVEEEE ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO GROW THERE U MUST KILL IT ON SIGHTarent plants designed to travel extremely long distances and havent their devised incredibly clever ways to do so? havent they been traveling all over the earth for literally billions of yer=aars?invasive species is a stupid idea created by people a. who r just trying to protect their unnatural patented/gmo/hybridized cash crop; or b. people who r projecting their feelings of guilt over colonizing a lesser people onto plantssome plants make food that u can eat. grow them and eat them. were struggling to survive out here every day, meanwhile some businessmen and brainwashed college liberals are trying to tell us were bad people for growing the wrong type of food (while they personally do not grow food or make shelters or make clothing, instead reaping the benefits of the global slave industrial comples)
>>2797050Are you autistic? Multiple things can be true at the same time and both problems, solutions and the motivations for implementing said solutions are often multifaceted.So no, it doesn't have NOTHING to do with flood prevention. It quite clearly has SOMETHING to do with it, even if it's not the main goal, you fucking reddit-spacing halfwit.
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>>2796969LolLmao even
kill all grey squirrels
>>2796054kys asap retard
Anybody been to one of Backcountry's retail stores? REI has gone to shit as everybody knows and I need winter gear, and I live outside LA (about to move away though, hence needing winter stuff) so the store there is doable but driving into LA is always a pain in the ass. Is it worth checking out?
>>2792444It used to be pretty affordable, especially the REI co-op brand. Simple designs, good price, just werx etc. But, they seem to have rebranded as some urbanite berniefag gorp store. Marketing exclusively to those demographics marking up a lot of their house brand stuff making it so only a white collar remote Yeti fag can afford it. Not even the LL Bean stores on the east coast are that bad.
>>2795185you are forgetting>massive tax hikes >homeless invasion>awful laws >prices going insane for everything>californian attitudes >illegal immigrant invasionI've watched nashville turn into a complete shithole these past 10 years because cali fags decided it was the perfect city to ruin. I hate all of you
Been inside their warehouse in SLC. The storefront selection was shit, the warehouse was impressive.
>>2795349And don't forget porch piracy for all that REI gear you have shipped to your house :^)
>>2795349Nashville was already a shithole lol.
>be me>adult now, so i wanted to buy a good knife>always wanted one since i was a kid. No money and time so i waited>was going for a gerber but decided to do some research >find an esse 4>"wow that's an amazingly durable knife">buy on blade hq>2 days later>turns out the same knife can be made with 2 different steel>didnt know this until now>check the knife i saw on review>it's s35v>check mine>it's 1095>"Your order has been shipped"Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2798060Depends how it breaks. I snapped a Gerber about 2/3 of the way up the blade batoning wood one time. The remaining amount of blade was still usable for cutting tasks and feather sticks etc but of course any finer work requiring a point was off the table. I had a small folding pocket knife with me as a backup anyway.Still have never managed to snap a mora in the way that gerber broke.
>>2798724Ahahahahahahah go have a jousting in the local bathouse ahahah you complete cretin ahahahahahah.
>>2798747Do you really talk like that? Jesus, that's embarrassing.
>>2798749Sounds like you got some vaginal inflamation.
>>2798747>>2798749>>2798751I like the thread ive started
What does a pig cost? Is it cheaper to buy a sub-adult, raise it into adulthood, then slaughter it and butcher it yourself or just buy a whole pig already butchered?
>>2795446>>2795446holding a pig alone is called animal crueltykeep at lest 4-5 animals if you have a male and 4-5 females the will expode in number and you can sell themstep 4: profit
>>2795504You use a bandsaw or traditional? I'm jelly. I always wanted to learn but the fiance is vegetarian and buying a whole pig to eat by myself seems crazy.
>>2795450Wtf are you talking about we do 3.40 a pound butchered ourselves, 4.75 for the local pasture raised stuff all cut and packaged>>2797154Most places will sell you a half, should take up less than half of an upright freezer. We don't have a de hairing setup so we skin them and cut in half with a meat saw. Everything else is knives. If you have a place to hang it you need like a 4 foot table with cutting boards to process. Butcher paper and freezer tape or vac seal bags
>>2798831Half a hog is about a hundred pounds and costs $450. So about $4.50 a pound. Do they not teach math where you live pigfucker? I just live in the hog capitol of the world what do I know?
>>2798840I paid $370 for a whole hog hanging weight at that price. Are you getting charged for hide hair head hooves blood and offal too? Just because a slaughter hog will run about 200-250 lbs doesn't mean a side of pork weighs half that
I've been looking to join MSC as a civilian merchant mariner and I've been curious about their uniforms I see in photos, can't find anything about a uniform requirement and see nothing about specifications about their uniforms, I just wanted to know if anyone can find a PDF maybe of their code and why they're given a woodland camo in the first place? Looks like type 3 woodland but I occasionally see them using MARPAT as well. Very interesting imo.
>>2798754I hope you're ready to get a SEAwife and eventually move to Indonesia, Malaysia, or the Philippines. That's the fate of every MSCer.
>>2798760desu no interest in sex or marriage, mind only focuses on the grind
>>2798768Yah... MSC will get to you eventually
>>2798770Still seems like a great opportunity, still 20 with no real career, currently working at a failing local coffee shop and living with my grandparents, will let me see the world and get paid pretty well considering I'm making barely 20k right now
>>2798754Those are two of the sloppiest salutes I've ever seen. Good manners costs you nothing.
Anyone here van life for /out/ exploring? Throw on some good AT tires and it seems like this would be ideal.
I live out of a hammock right now. Getting a van is my goal for this year. I do odd jobs but they pay like shit so I can't spend any money on fun, all my money goes towards food and gym memberships (to use the utilities). I can't go back to normie life where you just sit in one place forever seeing the same things around the same place within 4 walls. But upgrading to a vehicle to live out of would be nice. I have to hitchhike if I want to get around. I guess my plan for affording a van is renting a shitbox apartment for a few months (I have $10k saved) while I work at McDonalds. It's hard to get any "real" jobs when you don't have an address. McDonalds pays much better than these odd jobs I do right now, I get like $6 an hour doing those. Also I could get a proper cooking setup in a van. Currently I have to cook on a shitty backpacking stove which is small as fuck so I can't make much of anything.
>>2798691Sounds like you're pretty much off grid bro why not just pull down some FAFSA loans and maxx them out next spring at some community college and then cash your $5,000 check and buy a car? What are they going to do? Garnish your wagie check?
>>2798586>beat to shit in one way or anotheranon this is what you want.You do not want a pristine camper van, you want a beater that you dont mind putting a dent into. This is a feature not a bugI want a van that I can take into mexico that doesnt break my heart if it gets fucked up. I want to camp on the beach and not worry that rust is getting a toehold Yes, toward the end of its usable lifespan , your van should be beat to shit
I'm doing this with either a Renault traffic or a Hyundai iload this year. The iload has the option of a differential lock so I can always install one, doesn't make it a 4x4 but will get me out of trouble. I'm not doing the shower and toilet inside and my bed will only be a bit wider than my shoulders. Inside kitchen with double burner and fridge. Solar on top. Shower option outside. It will look somewhat like this but I'm going to keep it stealth so from the outside it just looks like a tradie van I'll hide the solar with pipes and a ladder.https://youtu.be/hOtURXRvdkE?si=2jCGUjqyfGYor2Gf I own an apartment, little one with a little mortgage so I won't be living full time in the van its more for exploring the country and /out/. I wish I had done this when I was in my early 20s instead of renting. If I could do it over I would have went for a van as soon as I started working.
>>2798719i dont mean cosmetically beat, i mean so-beat-it-wont-even-turn-over-to-shit. but i get your point
I'm about to graduate from community and transfer. The number 1 school on my list is Cal Poly Humboldt . Whats /out/ scene like out there ? All I know is that its smack dab in a temperate rainforest and has a solid surf scene.
>>2798705>Learning outdoors from a bookJust cliff yourself now
>>2798705The best thing to do is find the parks for that region on Google and then look up the reviews. Or find some Facebook groups in that area and ask about it. If its got rainforests and surf scenes, then it probably has local parks and trails for /out/ing. Good luck, anon and congrats on graduating. And if you do go there, don't forget to take pics and share.
>>2798706It's just some Brit larping as an American, hoping to experience even a crumb of the American outdoors.
>>2798764Worse , I'm from southern california
>>2798772Lmao no you aren't.
Did you pick up your /out/ prescription yet?
>>2796559>able to visit for free >for freeDo americans tip the forest janny when they go /out/ ?
>>2796662>>2796668exactly, the violence turns them on.
>>2796733>americansthe article mentions Cuckada multiple times.obsessing over america sempai aside,in the states, parks are generally free to enter on foot, it's pay for parking which funds the upkeep of parking and trail head infrastructure.
>>2796559Wait really
>>2798647No, it's fake. I can tell by the pixels.
What’s there to do around here that doesn’t involve the Appalachian Trail?
>>2797552"New England is a region comprising six states in the Northeastern United States: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont."
>>2797613I thought new york was part of it
>>2798097nope
Thought on VA blue ridge mountains? Im from Hawaii and know nothing about the East Coast except my grandma who lives in PA. It is all ticks and mosquitoes and you literally catch aids if you step foot in it? Otherwise it all look beautiful and tempting to move there and gtfoh
>>2798436(far) southwestern virginia is really nice, shenandoah is meh and the hiking is very rocky
