Best packable puffers?
>>2859227I have an Outdoor Research that I bought on clearance a year and a half ago. It’s quite good, I bought it to use for layering on fall /out/ trips, but it’s warm enough that it and a canvas shirt jack has been my winter go-to even when it’s in the mid 20s below zero.
>>2859541no
>>2859227the only answer.
UFPro makes a nice one, but it's pricey.
>>2859227Whatever is on clearance discount because it's last-season's colour/shape/cut/weight.
any subcultures other than rock climbing that have a dirtbagging scene?
>>2858151The ones i knew were brokies. Hike 30-60 miles inna woods for back breaking trail work months at a time. cold water washing and paid seasonal barely min wage. Best hope was to get hired year-round at USFS or National Parks but no way that was happening then or now. They just enjoy being /out/ or am I mistaken on dirtbagging?
Went to the diamond mine in arkansas. Tweeker camp. Mind blown. Better than copper poaching i guess.
>>2859720copper isn't worth enough to poach tho
>>2857953Its either the lazy one getting the ride from the elk or the one too cheap to buy poles
>>2860935And his friend is laughing at him. Kek
Hello /out/ serious (though retarded) thread. I won't find rest until I've hunted, killed, skinned, cut up and put in glass jars a 120+ pounds wild boar.Problem is, my country's admin is retarded (even moreso than I) and I still don't have my hunting license, so no heavy firepower for me.Now, how do I prepare physically and mentally to be up to the task ? I haven't found any serious advice and my dad, who's a hunter, told me that was a retarded idea. I'm sure there has to be a way though, please help.
>>2855678Listen to your dad he is way smarter than you and he has actual experience, plus he's a real man unlike you.
>>2855837>amerimutt education>>2855735>Who careswhite people do
>>2855678why not use a snare?
>>2855678Make a spear, make sure the boar flanges at the base of the head will catch when you stab. Don't miss.
>>2855680My buddy does this in the U.S.Hog hunting with a few dogs and a bowie knife.
>Have friend>Retired military (Navy)>Came into a bit of money, with the business he and I run>Travels the world in our off season (we are military contractors).>Flys to Nepal with his thot Australian GF>Decides he wants to climb Mt. Everest (lol)>Actually find this sketchy as fuck outfitter that agreed to take him on a expedition that has multiple fatalities on record>Ligit is spending like $40k and more on this whole expedition>Has no experience Mountain Climbing aside from Mt. Fuji and other mountains in Japan (really are just hikes)>Has no glacial or Alpine traversing experience/training>/fit/ in a base way he hasn't trained or acclimatized to this.>Basically giving me the whole yolo line>Literally already at base camp.How do I convince my friend he's going to die and this a beyond a pants on head retarded idea. How the fuck do these outfitters not vet people on something like this? He's on a high because he divorced his psycho whore of a wife that put his dog down to spite him and he's made just over a million dollars working in the defense industry and shrewd investment with me.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2856751Touch grass retard
you don't, OP. everest is just a thinning point for moronic white guys with too much money for themselves.
>>2855415Yes its bullshit.There are no expeditions during winter.
Super soldier /afraid of loss and death. pick one
>>2855411lol let him do what he wants, if he dies he dies
Can someone help me identify this bike?
>>2858898When I see a.bicycle without fenders I know that his owner rides it once a.month.
>>2860686wut? I've had many mountain bikes over the years. I ride weekly if not multiple times a week. I havent had fenders since I was a kid on my Schwin. not afraid of dirt.
>>2860686Nobody uses fenders what the fuck are you talking about?
>>2858899>unicrown forkits a walmart tier piece of shit>flat pedals LOL
>>2859210lolof course this retarded fag would be on a Surly
>corporate wagecuck office job didnt approve my day off >missing 1.5 feet of powder on a weekday when the mountain wouldnt have been loaded with other wagecucks like me>have to tell friends I cant go
>>2858709You call out sick for this btw
>>2858709What a fucking life huh
>>2858709thats why I worked at a ski resort for a few years with a job that didnt start until 2pm. Never missed a powder day.
>>2858805I see the cabin project is still going. Havent seen any posts from you, how come ?
>>2860878Just get a powder clause brobruh.
I'm gathering ideas for biomes and natural environments. I'd like to know if anyone knows of any natural environment or biome that they find pretty. It could be a description, a picture of nature that you like, anything helps.
the succulent feel of high sierra.
Canyon Country
I really like rivers in the desertit concentrates all the life in the area so they usually have lots of cool animalsplus the contrast of the green riparian area with the surrounding desert looks nice
>>2859816do you have more maps like this anon?
>>2859816STOP THE COUNT
>OH MY GOD ANON YOU HIKE UP MOUNTAINS? I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO THAT! CAN I COME WITH YOU>sure you got the gear>WAIT I HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO NOT DIE IN BELOW FREEZING TEMPS?!?!Every time. It's hard finding people are actually passionate about things and are willing to invest money into the equipment to do said things. Normgrels nowadays want to go hiking on their nike sneakers and pijamas.
>>2859705i know you motherfuckers have piles upon piles of gear. don't tell me you don't have any loaner gear you have used in months/years.
>>2860281Okay so? It's mine, I bought it with my own money, buy your own stuff.
>>2860740You grew up as an only child, didn't you.
>>2860745Nigga don't tell me what to do, YOU'RE NOT MY MOTHER, FATHER, OR GOD! I'm NOT sharing my $500+ arcteryx shells, or $100+ base layers with anyone.
>>2859710>gymbroNothing against gymbros, but yes there is a huge difference between gyming and actual /out/ robustbess. I have seen people who are ripped /stacked who caved in on events & activities I took part in. They look the part, but can't perform due to lack of proper conditioning.
5° AT Trip, Am I Cooked?I'm gonna be going on a 2 night, 20-mile trip on the AT this coming Friday. It looks like it'll be a lot colder than I was anticipating. Could you give me your opinion on whether or not my gear will keep me warm enough? Am I cooked?WEATHER: Friday - 22° Hi, 8°Lo, Clear, 16mph windSaturday - 14°Hi, 5°Lo, Clear, 8mph windSunday - 14° Hi, 9° Lo, Clear, 3mph windSLEEP/CLOTHING:\-Trilaminate military-style bivy sackComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2858092Do you sleep with your head out of the bivy sack? What is the precipitation forecast?The gear list seems fine if you sleep in all your layers, but if anything gets wet you are MEGA fucked
>>2858445Funny you ask, I actually decided to bail because of the precipitation, which is gonna be 16in of snow. I also got a couple of pieces since I posted this. But yeah I would try to vent the bivy to keep my breath from freezing on the inside.
>>2858092You already cancelled but if you have a backyard or something that would be a good opportunity to test this. Concerns of mine just looking at raw numbers.Bag is '-10F' limit. If that's the actual 'extreme rating' what that means based on the ISO standard is something like '6 hours with this bag at this temp won't kill you.' It does not mean comfort or even sleep. Even if the liner added 10F (generous) you are still in the 'probably won't get frostbite' territory. If the full ratings are available I would look at them, because the comfort rating is often 20-30F or more over the extreme. For example, Western Mountaineering has some bags who's extreme limit is listed at -40 but their comfortable sleep rating is like 10F, That's a wild swing.You can definitely sleep colder than the bag with appropriate layering, but I would test that out. One if you cram too much shit into a bag you will start compressing the down and reducing the insulation. Two if you are like me you will find that the inability to move within the bag prevents a comfortable sleep. For this reason, my winter bag and quilt are oversized.The rest of the layers look good with the exception of a heavy insulation layer. While active you can get away with less and the rain layer will help with wind and cold air, but the lack of a insulation layer for the arms and legs will really suck when moving less around camp unless you plan to cook from your sleeping bag.Rain fly will really help with evaporative cooling but definitely pick a good campsite where wind and cold air won't collect.I would be concerned at -22F that the pocket rocket won't work effectively. I would also 100% bring a way to start a fire as an emergency back up. And overall you should probably bring more food, cold saps strength and you body needs fuel constantly.I feel like a shill because I recommend him a lot, but Aaron Linsdau's YT channel is a great resource and he 100% changed my approach to winter camping.
>>2858687I tested it since I posted this. Turns out the bag's 10°F rating is actually the lower comfort limit, 0°F is the survival rating. I slept in ~7° with only base layers, and my feet got chilly around 5am so I put my socks back on as they were sweating around 25°.As for the stove, I got a white gas stove, the MSR WhisperLite.
>>2858092I'm assuming these temps are in F since you're talking about the AT. I've camped in similar conditions multiple times in a tent (with sleeping pad), hammock (sleeping pad, no underquilt), and hammock with an underquilt.I would highly recommend reconsidering your shelter, but it isn't a deal breaker as is, you just might not be terribly comfortable. The tent + sleeping bag combo was by far the least comfortable (6°F) and I ended up putting my outer shell down over the pad to keep some of the cold out. The sleeping pad + hammock (with a warbonnet superfly) was the middle ground (9°F), more comfortable than being on the ground, but any portion of your body that leaves the pad will immediately feel it (same with sleeping on the ground). The hammock with synthetic underquilt and warbonnet superfly was completely comfortable (5°F) the entire night.I should note that I was using a synthetic fill 0°F Ozark Trail mummy bag for each of these trips (yeah, it isn't much and is bulky but damn if the thing hasn't worked and held up over the years).I would rethink the bivvy and rainfly for this trip, but again, it isn't like you're going to die in it, just might be a little uncomfortable at times.I suggest bringing some hot hands, or the larger toasty toes if you can find them, and toss a couple in the sleeping bag 20mins before you go to sleep, it's a nice luxury.Your current setup will work, but you might hit some uncomfortable moments. If this is your first time winter camping, you may be in for a little bit of a surprise with your current setup compared to warm weather camping, but again, you'll survive. Sleep in your clothes if they're dry. The wind on the first day will be the worst part, especially with your diamond fly.
Can you help me pick retired army gear for hunting, /out/?Reason is that I tried looking for hunting clothes and they were seemingly expensive and really shitty, mostly made from >80% plastics. I remember back when I was young and would buy them for cross country hacking, uniforms were decent almost all cotton or polyester with cotton lining in the least and not too pricey. Other than that ripstop weave, good pocket size and distribution amongst other things. Even the buttons/zips were huge which would be a huge boon with gloved fingers.So I'm wondering if anyone happens to know off-hand which winter gear is semi-effective camouflage that isn't in current use?
Wool leather aerogel
>>2857570Any online Army surplus store is going to have what you are looking for. Just search Winter or cold weather issue.
Everyone telling you not to buy milsurp is a REI store assistant manager. Check out Sportsman's Guide. They have a lot of good milsurp gear.
>>2858310>This is because plastic is objectively better for military use cases.It's certainly cheaper
>>2860510Almost all of the best cold weather gear is plastic-based. It's not cheap either, in fact the military gets absolutely ripped off with contracts compared to civilians. Also Just because it's derived from plastic doesn't make it bad.
near one of the most remote lakes in the western US. I thought /out/ told me the western US was remote and untouched. all you really need is a car, AllTrails™ App, and some running shoes?
>>2857641They're mainly there to destroy it. It's part of their culture.
>>2857738>state lands
i just went camping in the western us in the most beautiful place i have ever seen and there were 3 other people there. 90% of the sites were available. idk what to say other than that you are a liar and you hate god and you hate nature and you are piece of shit asshole. why would you lie like this? just to dissuade people from going outside? why? thats the most evil thing i could think of. you are sick person
>>2857734Oregon is kind of similar in that regard, some of the state forests etc. are almost more like BLM land than anything else, you can shoot etc. on them. It IS kind of annoying in that we've got so many different agencies controlling public land here and they've all got their own permits etc. though.
>>2857738>>2857670>state land bad>fed goodretard takeSome of the best places to hike even out west is state land.
I think the Cracow-Częstochowa Uplands in Poland are a bit underrated outing place
I've been there a few times. Unironically these are the nearest natural climbing routes, and I have to drive like 12 hours to get there.All the holds on the routes are fucking polished to glass. Not exactly a pleasure to climb.
Vidlak Pond...home
what would be the best place around there to hang a hammock for a night or two?
Yeah krakow and surrounding areas are great for adventuring, cause all of poland north of here is flat and boring lol. I like to take my 7" FPV and get some nice views. This pic is from like an hour south of here two weeks ago
>>2854582I'd love to see those castles in real life.
I probably did one of the craziest climbs in the history of alpinism a week ago but no one will ever know because it would get me in trouble. And to think 2 years ago I was here asking what REI was.
>>2860511Every thread dies. Not every thread truly lives.
My dad works for nintendo
>>2860511yeah, but it was probably a "how do I run away from home and Minecraft IRL?" thread.
>>2860439>no one will ever know because it would get me in troubleYou're on 4chan, you're anonymous. if you want to brag just do it. What was the climb anon?
>>2860609>he thinks this is anonymous A literal email just came out about epstein being friends with moot and buying 4chan, anon.
wyd in this situation/out/? would (You) be able to hold the temptation?
>>2859965The tourist was dumb and all, but why do you seem more upset about the fact that she's smiling and happy than her retarded action of provoking a fucking leopard? Are you ok anon?
>>2859877Well she stopped being stupid after this encounterThere was some italian retard who died last year after taking a selfie with a brown bear cub too.
>>2860361lmao.>All that RAMMust be AI
>>2860551>Must be AIhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15516485/skiing-tourist-taking-selfie-rare-snow-leopard-mauled-face.html
>>2860361wholesome
Hey anons, I recently got a job where I need to carry some personal stuff in a bag. I expect it to go in and out of boats and aircraft. Ideally also carry-on dimensions for typical airlines. It'll be sitting indoors for the most part, but if I'm unlucky it'll sit out in the rain or get dropped in a puddle.I've found a bag that meets my requirements for the most part, a North Face duffel, but I was wondering if any anons have advice on what I should get. I'd like to get one that looks a little more unique and high-vis too. Is a proper drybag worth it? picrel is just "water resistant"
>>2857807I would suggest either the Base Camp XS or S or the Osprey Farpoint 40, depending on your needs. Base Camp XS or S for rough use/allround, Farpoint 40 if you have to carry it on your back for longer periods, or have to carry a laptop with you.I have three Large model Base Camp duffels. My sister borrowed one for eight years. The oldest, which must be like 17 years now, is in Italy, but the dago I lent it to five years ago keeps forgetting to bring it when I'm there.Anyway it's a banging duffel bag. Rainproof enough that you don't need to worry about putting it down in the snow or leaving it in the rain for a little while., solid material. The D-shaped lid and the good zipper makes it easy to stuff it full. The shoulder straps are actually usable, even if it's not super ergonomic to carry it for very long periods of time. There's some lack of organizing options, but you can solve that with some lightweight packing cubes.The Farpoint is an OK backpack. Hip belt that works and isn't for show, good straps, nice and airy back. If you're flying, you can easily pack the straps away, which is nice if you want to take it as a carry-on, so the straps don't snag on anything.Outside-access laptop pocket is handy, and the organizing panels inside make it easy to organize your gizmos and doodats.You will want packing cubes to pack in, and conveniently enough, Osprey's ultralight set fit beautifully. They also sell a transparent 1-litre toiletries bag, and that also fits. Bag isn't as waterproof as the Base Camp duffel, but surprise surprise, Osprey also sells a light rain cover for it.One downside with the Farpoint is that if you use the stuff pocket on the back, it easily bulges backwards like a dome if you have anything in your pack, so it looks like you're lugging a turtleshell around. The shape is a bit odd, notably the width, because it's made to maximize the volume within carry-on size requirements, but it's still comfortable to carry.
>>2859587(cont)I don't know what your needs are like, so I thought I'd share my packing list for when I'm traveling for business without checked bags, packing either in a carry-on suitcase or the Farpoint 40. I have not tried the Base Camp XS, but on paper it has a lower volume, so I don't know if you can fit all this in it.>Packing cube, small: Underwear and socks for up to 5 days>Packing cube, medium: T-shirts and thin sweaters for up to 5 days, wool underwear if going somewhere cold, shorts or sweatpants>Packing cube, large: Spare set of pants, spare shirt(s) - For longer trips only>Toiletries bag: Toothbrush, -paste, floss, deodorant, comb, perfume, blister bandages, nail clippers with file, a few Q-tips. I don't have very strong beard growth, so I get away with shaving before I go, but if that's a problem for you I'd just as well buy a cheap razor on-site and leave it there, or pack a Bic disposable and a travel-size shaving foam.>Electronics: Laptop if needed, charger(s).>2 lightweight tote bags - One for laundry, one for day trips/personal item on the flights. Get synthetic ones, put your packing cubes in them, there's a little extra waterproofing.I usually bring a second pair of shoes, in case I need to dress sharp or the other pair gets wet Usually loafers or running shoes. Wear the heaviest or largest pair, pack the other.I don't have any problem making the weight for carry-on luggage, even if I use the heavier suitcase. Part of the trick is just stuffing things in my pant and coat pockets. Phone, e-reader or book, passport, wallet, headphones... If I need to dress up on the trip, I'll also wear my blazer on the flight rather than packing it.
>>2859587>you don't need to worry about putting it down in the snow or leaving it in the rain for a little whileSounds great, anon. Thanks for the recommendation.>not super ergonomic to carryAt most I'll be lugging it through a building or to the street, so no big deal for me.>FarpointCertainly a good bag, I already have one!>packing cubesPersonally I've never liked/used them much. My bags are plenty organized without them though, so maybe it requires a certain autism (or lack thereof) to use. >>2859588>make sure to bring underwear and sockskek thx mom>I'll also wear my blazer on the flight rather than packing it.Oh, yeah, for regular trips I carry nothing besides a small laptop bag. You can reliably buy anything you could possibly need at the destination or at the airport. For example, the airline/hotel always gives you a toothbrush and toothpaste.On one occasion it was inconvenient when I had a drink spilled on me, but I can't imagine it would be that much less inconvenient to change into your spare clothes than to just buy extras when you need them.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2857980The carry-on restrictions are hard limits if you have a hard-shell bag. Having a soft/squishy duffel gives you way more leniency.
After an autistic level of research, I ended up getting a Briggs and Riley duffel bag last year. Not cheap, but the construction and materials are fantastic. Nice, chunky zippers, every seam and stitch reinforced and covered. Comes with a lifetime warranty, so repairs are free, you just have to send it in.
