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I am coming up with a lil thru hike idea. Hike what would start out to be a lore accurate path of the Fallout New Vegas courier from california to the building the lucky 38 is based off of in Vegas, mostly following the lore accurate path, but hitting a few side locations. It might end up being more of a route than a trail, but this is the general route I had in mind. Hike from the "Mojave Outpost" (Mountain Pass) up through primm and then to Goodsprings, then east down to Nipton, over to Searchlight, and then north hitting a few notable irl equivilent locations for the Nelson the ghost town, Helios One, Novac, and then go through Boulder City to Hoover Dam and then over into Vegas.

I have thru hiked a few times before, but not in the desert. I am aware water is a significant consideration here. Luckily many of the locations/towns are within a days walk of each other at my pace, although some places appear to have gaps where natural water or civilization/faucets would be.

What would you consider changing about the route, or anything your would specifically add? I am aware there is a lot of public land, but also a significant amount of private land like on the solar farms and military bases.
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thats a far as fuck hike through literally nothing.
there is some cool stuff north of vegas but the area to the south is desolate desert. there is pretty much no water out there. also the area from nelson to boulder city is all private property. just drive it and go sightseeing. if you want to hike go to valley of fire or red rock
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>>2852339
Take some acid and listen to the Radio New Vegas radio
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>>2852339
The alternate route is to smoke crack and sprint north along 15 right to Vegas. Whenever ypu start coming down, immediately hide and smoke another rock to maintain your speed and outpaced the deathclaws.
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>>2852611
Just take a sip from your trusty Vault 13 canteen.
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>>2852339
You aren't going to do this hike, so why are you posting about it?

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the greatest /out/ youtuber is back. did we miss him?
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>>2848219
I saw one clip of him in sub-arctic temperatures with his single digit-aged kid and thought that was irresponsible and was just worried. It's an experience of a lifetime for the kid, to be sure, but one mistake and he would be dead.
>>2848895
>>2850786
basically these two points
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>>2851081
I call him Steve too. I have an ad blocker and Sponsor Block. I am subscribed but not a member. I have never and likely will never give Steve any money or buy anything with his coupon code, should he ever get one.
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>>2848392
bitter incels thrive in anonymous spaces that are divorced from consequence
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>>2851823
>>2851977
Again I'm not saying he's not good at what he does and he does make entertaining content. All I'm saying is he's a bad source for actual information on survival/camping/bushcraft. Yes HE might know what he's doing, but your average viewer doesn't. If someone tries to replicate any of his outings chances of getting hurt, getting buried, sleeping in a wooden shelter that catches on fire in the middle of the night or just getting injured and stranded are VERY high. He rarely goes over all the precautions and preparations he takes. Once again good entertainment, but just that.
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I wish someone loved me like this man loves honey butter and fry bread

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What do you pack in your bag? What bag is it? What brand (everything in it)? Where do you hike? What shoes, boots, jackets do you wear, etc.
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>>2851553
>Throw the tissue into the next bush
Bait

I've been just blowing my nose into my hand and shaking it clean or brushing it off in snow.
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>>2851424
don't really hike for fun but i got a little cabin tucked away in the woods that requires a lot of walking, snowmachining, being outside, etc. i also have to occasionally walk several miles due to breakdowns, moving vehicles around, or getting extremely stuck/too drunk to ride. i'm mostly there in winter snow this is what i usually pack on the snowmachine, summer is another story

>boots
black or white bunny boots
>base layer
thick wool socks
pajama pants under overalls
hoodie
non cotton shirt
balaclava or buff
snow goggles
various gloves
sometimes also long johns if its really cold
>coat

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>>2851424
I have an m85 Alice ruck on a hdpe frame. I've got a matching hammock and woobie. Me knoif(s): a helle spider, a batoning knife, and an okc 5.5". I've also got a fiskar hatchet. I keep dryer lint and a ferro rod in an empty tobacco tin. Started keeping dry flour and yeast in bags, and a jar of honey butter, or herbs in butter. I've also got peanut butter with my own trail mix blend, and I'll bring a collapsible rod to catch fish. During antler and holiday antlerless I'll bring whatever rifle with me along with my cdib since I can use that as my hunting/fishing license on tribal land between the Cherokee, muskogee-creek, chickasaw, choctaw, and seminole. Fresh socks, skivvies, and a first aid bag with stuff my ems supply won't miss. If it's freezing I'll bring my cold weather sleeping bag. I've got a space blanket for general purpose use. Haven't tried to use it to reflect Campfire heat.
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Hyperlite pack, lightheart gear tent, enlightened equipment quilt. All my clothes are arcteryx, the Appalachian trail is my go to trail
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>>2851553
Had to use this tip myself when I did my NCO final exam. (Estonia 2021, 115km forced march)

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I love being outdoors, love hunting camping hiking fishing, all of it. Been doing it all since a kid. But I have a huge problem with being scared of the dark. I'm alright as long as there's someone else with me, but when I'm alone out deep enough into the woods I can't help but be debilitatingly scared of the dark.

It's so bad that I have to have my hand on my gun at all times once the sun goes down, I even piss in a bottle at night so I don't have to leave the tent. It's hard to sleep because I'm hyper alert to every sound, and as you know there are a lot of them at night. So my question is, has anyone else felt with this and how did you over come it?
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>>2850938
>>2850955
ya need help. now.
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>>2850938
It’s how you trap multiple homosexuals to have your way with
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>>2844571
I only did it when it was too cold and I was too lazy to leave my tent
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>>2853302
What do you mean
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>>2844585
For me, it took more solo trips just to get over it. Basically you spent a few nights and nothing happens and you realize nothing is likely to happen and you calm down. Granted, it’s never as calm as in your own bed and depending on where you are and what you’re doing sometimes a little fear is warranted.

Yeah, that’s probably not what you wanted to hear but it worked for me. Try doing shorter trips close to home and just practice the act of camping. Short trips are underrated anyways.

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east coast hikes are more hardcore than west coast hikes
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>>2853211
That's what the Mt. Washington, Mt. Greylock, Equinox Mountain, Mt. Ascutney, Mt. Philo, and Cadillac Mountain auto roads are for anon
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>>2853243
those are probably all seasonal and jammed with boomers
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There’s a dead guy right now on Mt. Whitney. Whitney, which is in the lower part of the Sierra Nevada, is the tallest peak in the lower 48 states. People saw his body so it’s known that he’s dead, but at this point winter is setting in and the mountain will be covered with tons of snow so Search and Rescue has called off recovery attempts because it’s just too treacherous. Meanwhile the dead guys mom has been going on a bunch of hiking groups asking if anyone can find her son because “no one will help us”
Is that hardcore enough for you?
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>>2853335
No that is not hardcore enough for me
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>>2853335
>Meanwhile the dead guys mom has been going on a bunch of hiking groups asking if anyone can find her son because “no one will help us”
That's pretty irresponsible, she doesn't understand the risk that rescuers take. That body isn't going anywhere, so why rush?

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Post your favorite /out/ patches. Also, how do you display any patches you don't have on a pack? I tried doing a board but I think I need more patches because it feels empty.
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>>2853253
>Wait til you find out how your backpack is held together.
Nah bro, anon's $1000 backpack is welded together.
None of those god damned stitches anywhere, they let water in.

>>2853249
>What idiot really uses this shit?
If you think your backpack is going to flood due to a few stitches for a patch.
1- do like tent manufacturers do: waterproof seam tape.
or
2- glue it
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I'm proud of my /out/ches
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any cute and possibly funny yuru petches?
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>>2853248
>https://bupsup.github.io/patches/
ordered from this guy, is a confirmed chad, drew me a picture with a river and mountains.
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>>2849984
I don't own any patches, I was just giving up some ideas

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You now remember geocaching
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>>2848793
Fatherless
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>>2852581
I won and you lost, cope and seethe
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>>2848793
It was a wilder time when men were made of sterner stuff. None of todays anons would have to stones to poopst in a geocatch
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>>2846457
first post best post
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>>2852471
You don't burn your shit paper?

Do you take your old man /out/?
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>>2850689
The last time I saw my father was 3 years ago at a family funeral. We didn't say a word to each other.

Imagine loving your father. I hope I get to pull his plug.
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>>2850689
Whenever I go to a national park he wanted to visit, I bring his urn.
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>>2850689
I used to. But he's 84 now, has a bad hip, approaching Alzheimer's and wouldn't enjoy it.
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>>2853287
Based, I hope one day, many years from now, my son will do that for me.
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>>2853316
I'm trying to convince my sisters and my step mom to let me dump it at the grand canyon. I'm already trying to figure out a way to include his ashes in some resin to turn into beads for them to wear, and a set of dice for me since he grew up with original d&d, and i forever dm with his stories in mind

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Is this yellow spider dangerous? Are they life threatening?

There's lots of them out by the woods here.
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>>2850760
They are harmless. Them and other orb weaver or garden spiders are great insect killers in your yard
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>>2850771
>What kind of potato did you take that picture with
I'm going to guess a modern Google phone, and he managed to press the button as soon as the lens unfocused.
Mine does it to me all the time. Especially if I'm trying to take quick pictures.
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>>2850760
Assuming youre in Japan, no they are harmless
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>>2850760
I love banana spiders. They shake the web like little retards
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>>2853308
My mother used to claim they were good luck but I think that's just because there was a giant one that took over her rose garden for like 3 years.

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Have you ever been CAUGHT innawoods doing something against the rules by a forest janny? If so, what were you doing wrong, and what was your punishment?
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I got caught jerking off I dont want to talk much more about it but yes exactly what you think. Someone managed to sneak up on me and we were both as startled as each other.
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>>2850562
I was hinting in western alberta, when a truck full of jeets pulled up next to me asking if I saw any deer. I told them to fuck off.
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>>2849778
A park ranger once watched me cum into my girlfriend prone bone on a blanket, then started slow clapping when I rolled off of her. No idea how long he was there. He told us to get dressed and either be quiet or bring a tent next time.
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>>2851341
Seems like he rolls mdma a lot
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>>2851021
Rural, but not wilderness. I went on a search and wellness check on a couple of autistic kids, one non verbal. They decided to up and take off. Thank God it was summer. Parents lived in a trailer out in bfe and basically bordered the woods out by devil's den state park. Dogs find them, we put them in our ambulance to check their vitals. Oh my God, the first time I ever wanted to steal a couple of kids. They kept showing me the toys they brought with them, and they weren't even scared. It was like another walk down the street for them, playing with their toys. Their aunt put in the report after stopping by to visit, the kids' parents were methheads and passed out after being on a 5 day binge. The state ended up taking those kids, and I pray they got somewhere better.

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All of the evergreens really pop out. I didn't even realize how much fucking moss is everywhere. It's absolutely beautiful and totally negates the fact that most of the forest looks like shit. I thought hiking was going to suck until the first snowfall but it's really quite nice. I spent about 7.5 hours outside today in ~32F. This is my first season trying winter hiking.
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>>2852847
It's Rich Mountain in WV. There was a nice effect of the higher elevations being especially covered in snow and this highlighting the evergreens. In much of Appalachia, evergreens would have been far, far more common pre-logging. They require/create a specialized fungal ecosystem, and, when logged, the disturbance to the soil meant that hardwood trees were more likely to grow back except at the most extreme, exposed high elevations.
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>>2852881
>the disturbance to the soil meant that hardwood trees were more likely to grow back except at the most extreme, exposed high elevations.
No, evergreens grow better with disturbance because they require more sunlight. That's why red cedar and white pine is so common on the edges of forest and in fields but not in the actual forest itself.
If you want more evergreens then petition for more prescribed burns or managed logging to create a more diverse ecosystem. Oh wait leave no trace we need to leave nature completely alone because everything humans do is le bad.
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>>2852894
>No, evergreens grow better with disturbance because they require more sunlight.
that's not the issue
the conifer needles feed the fungus in the soil, when you remove the conifers you starve the fungus, which then dies and lives symbiotically with the trees
I suppose hardwoods have lesser fungal requirements
also, clearcut logging tends to lead to mass forest fires because of the sawdust left behind and trim easily igniting, which further disrupts the bacteria and fungus in the soil
>If you want more evergreens
I think they would have to amend the soil heavily but there's all sorts of ridgeline slops where I'm pretty sure pre-logging it would have been solid pine/spruce/fir/etc and they don't make much of an effort to restore it and now its kudzu and prickers and heath bushes
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>>2851613
I love moss. Just wait until you start seeing rime ice forming little windswept icicles on the surface of the sphag
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>>2853197
have a rock with some moss

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Can you guys tell me where I can find high quality boots for hiking I have size U.S 14 and a half wide feet and everything I find is garbage and none of the stores around me carry my size I've been to four different stores I'm currently using boots from Amazon that are just trash and not even wide
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>>2853156
>>2853135
thank you il look into them
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>>2853172
If your thread is still up when you decide tell us please.

I am considering trying the Danner 600s but they are all fake leather.
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I have flat feet so they are really wide, 6E. Normally I fit into a 10.5 shoe, but for boots I go up to size 13 to compensate, this works well.

Best shoe's I've gotten over the years:
Altra Torin 8 10.5 Wide
Best lightweight trail:
Altra Lone Peak 8 10.5 Wide
Best Boot:
Keen Revel IV 13 Regular

If you need the boot to be for cold climate, I'd recommend the high polar one, its taller and has more insulation. Has kept my feet warm in 0 degree weather this hunting season. They are waterproof as well.

If you don't have really wide feet, maybe try the Revel IV. It goes up to size 15.
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>>2853174
Someone who else has a flat foot thank you>>2853173
Will do
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>>2853172
Size US 15W here. Can confirm. Am on my second pair of Moab 3s, and they last about 1,000 miles.

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wyd when u gotta take a big smelly diarrhea in the woods
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Directly into a fresh water source so I can wash myself after
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>>2849923
YOU'RE A FUCKING MENACE YOU KNOW THAT
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Diarrhoea is actually one of the cleanest ways to defecate. It's a liquid, and easily cleaned. You just need another liquid, or something wet to wipe it off.
It's arguably worse to do a regular shit that sticks to the anus and cheeks and needs a ton of wiping. Those fucking marker pen shits...
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>>2851925

I live not far from here, im upsetti spaghetti, whats a nigga to do in order to stop this senseless abuse of the natural world
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>>2852344
It wont be a public roads. That said, roads are permanent so eventually, the road will probably see public use.

>>2848558
NTA but I live in the Arctic near where this is happening. People live up here annon.

>>2844788
The Arctic is the weather machine for the northern hemisphere. Everyone should care about what’s going on up here.

>>2844825
Kill yourself.
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>>2844731
There’s a difference between how the public uses the term “wilderness” and how conservation agencies define “Wilderness”. Many places that are not designated Wilderness are still wilderness as far as they function and how the public conceives of them. “Wilderness” as designated by conservation agencies refers to specific lands protected by the wilderness act of 1964.

I don’t think most journalists or even anctivists are intentionally being misleading with the use of that language. It’s a very common term used to describe all kinds of natural places and besides, in this case, there’s virtually no functional difference between the land that has been designated Wilderness by the BLM/NPS and the land that has not except for that the former has laws theoretically protecting it from resource extraction. The caribou don’t care about an arbitrary line on a map that designates one side as Wilderness and one as not. For all intents and purposes, the Arctic is largely completely roadless (red dog mine road being an exception and a good comparison to the proposed Ambler road) and therefore extremely wild.
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>>2852893
just have to contact the mine operator and agree to their radio control protocols.
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>>2852897
Even the locals here who are for the road are very concerned about outsiders coming down the road and fucking up their subsistence. I’m sure the agreement made with the mining company is going to include a requirement for them to strictly enforcement access to the road.

But like I said, roads are permanent. The company may successfully keep the public off it for the 40-50 years it operates but who knows what’ll happen after that.
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trump won kek faggots BTFO
>2025 4cuckniggers are tranny liberals

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Any hobby naturalists here? What do you study or work on?
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>>2852265
next time you see her tell her your anon friend from 4chan /out/ forum's favourite natural form of toilet paper is the local mosses
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>>2852265
that's beautiful anon, she sounds like a keeper so best of luck
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i've been meaning to get into marine ecology and hunting/fishing
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I’m a professional environmental geologist. During college I took paleontology and stratigraphy. It would be cool to get back into that kind of stuff as a hobby.
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>>2851756
I'm a Geo and Paleo major in college. I want to focus on late cretaceous ammonites like pic related that I found


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