Time to settle the great debate for goodWhich one is better for the outdoors?
>>2835148>For example all of the “nature” in the PNW is actually just clear cut logging plantations. Lol, lmao even. Within one hour I can camp a glacier, hit volcanoes, catch a ferry to multiple islands or go to the only temperate rainforest, but yes the PNW is only clear cut forest left. Except wait many of the areas known for wilderness in the PNW are in fact parks. Yes I know theres more acreage of harvest area in the clear regions, but you're a fool if you think the Olympic Peninsula is nothing but harvest trees
>>2840207Most of the ancient trees on earth (1,000-5,000 years old) are in the U.S.Europoors just cant comprehend the size of the U.S.We have clear cut forests larger than their country while at the same time have pristine old growth forests that are larger than their country.I have a friend from Britian who is just amazed when we drive through the country side. We have more trees on the side of the freeway than all trees in London.
>>2835079Half of the forests in the American Southeast are pine plantations just like this. I call them toilet paper farms.
>>2840221What you said is simply not true. You obviously have not traveled the American southeast.
>>2840221There are more maple trees in the U.S. than Canada.Once again-The U.S. is so massive that we have renewable pines groves for paper and lumber whose area exceeds most European countries while at the same time have old growth forests that are just as large.
You do have enough /out/ friends to form a rope team, don't you anon?
>>2837757Already answered >>2833538
how does cold hardening work ie your tolerance to cold temps if you underdress for cold you just end up getting a bad case of cold i doubt getting annoying cold again and again helps you get better
>>2828607where?
>>2838558Sleeping in the cold increases brown fat production = higher metabolism = better cold resistance
>>2828585I don't have many friends and I live in the desert.
What is the best park in all of Florida? Pic related is the major trailhead loop for Serenova Tract in Hudson, Florida
>>2836602If you're in Hudson, try Starkey Park
>>2839662I railed one of our former HR clerks there.
>>2836785The free version is perfectly cromulent.
>>2836785I've spent more time outside than most of this board ever will, and even I use alltrails occasionally.
>>2836783Paynes prairie flooded after Hurricane Irma in 2017 and is now mostly marsh/lake. Only the trails along the periphery are usable and there isnt really the possibility to hike out into it. Cone's Dike trail is still open though
I need pointers and experienced advise for running away from it all and starting an off the grid homestead?
>>2837177no one whose brain works correctly likes AI generated pepe the frog images.
>>2839161I go outside more than you and I think that AI pepe is funny.
>>2839161kek, the retard fears the silly picture bot.
>some faggots ITT actually went and got the posts that totally refute their points deleted for being offtopicholy shit LOL
>>2836868use a tent until you build a shelter and keep getting supplies from the city gardening isn't that hard
IMHO Aragorn would be way better off with a crossbow than a short bow. Short selfbow is practically useless in an individual combat, and crossbow is both more accurate and more powerful for hunting but can be just as compact if well designed. Name other instances where wrong choice of /out/ equipment was promoted shamelessly in media.
>>2835524He sounds like an unbased injun. Why didnt he fish or just have the eagle drop him off a sandwhich?
>>2837143And they would have lived to 75 if they’d had a crossbow from birth?
I always hated crossbows...
>>2835511Luckily for him Aragorn is like 100 years old and descends from super-human numenorians.
>>2833764>hunter on the movesomeone doesjt into lotr lorehe's quite literally apart of a group of rangers that protect the shire in secret because they cant protect themselves
Alternative cooking methodsLook folks, it's 2025, fire is out the window. Your risk of starting a forest fire is too high, and smoke gives away your position to anybody. Obviously, fire is fucking dumb. The comanche would cold camp without fire to evade the Texas Rangers. But luckily, there are some really cool alternatives to using fire for cooking. >cold soakDehydrated refried beans and othee foods can simply be left in water >solar grillThese are really fucking cool and work great for cooking>non-cook solutionsMuh protein powder, fiber powder and multivitamin gauntlent Im quite fond of the cold soak, I rarely even use heat to cook at home. The solar shit is really cool.
>>2837721Kek based Nta, what is the other use for these sticks, as pot handle?
I'm in my country's version of the National Guard. We get MREs everytime we're out on exercises, but they also get us hot meals.So I got a fuckton of spare FRHs, and just bring whatever MREs I got left, or buy some commercial meals.
>>2837565>Bone app the teethI had to read that one out loud to understand the joke.
>>2837574>Biolite stoveDo those things still exist? I remember when everyone and their aunt were making youtube videos like the stoves were the second coming of Jesus Christ.
>>2837544>Your risk of starting a forest fire is too high>and smoke gives away your position to anybody.I've cooked entire family meals on open wood fires. If you know what you're doing, and have dry wood and a solid base (fire pan, flat stones, doesn't matter), there's no smoke, and no risk of the fire spreading, either.On the other hand, if a retard like you who can't even handle fire tried to use a solar cooker, I'd suggest bringing a welding mask. You might just end up blind, otherwise.
I hate the sun on the steppe. Let me live in a coniferous forest where there is snow.. I beg . T_T Who's with me?
>>2840040Unfortunately I'm not good a taking pictures in winter, so enjoy these instead
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coniferous forest is the worst possible kind
>>2840041>>2840042>>2840043these are still really nice pitchers, and I love imagining this place in winterPic related is my local woods, it's creepy in winter but actually scarier in summer. This is the dark spot in woods where the coyotes live and hunt, so often this spot is littered with the bones of rodents and squirrels and even fox skulls and such. In winter it's still uneasy but at least there's no undergrowth so you have visibility of what's around you>>2840045how so and in what ways anon?
Can we rank all countries in Europe according to their /out/ value?
>>2838181The top European countries are no better than B tier compared to North America, North Asia, and Australia.
>>2838264Doing anything that remotely looks like free camping in Italy will get you in trouble unless you're brown and with no papers or a trailer gypsy or an actual criminal doing something illegal, then the law can't touch you.It's only legal to camp above 2000m as an emergency.
>>2838181None are in S nor in F if you exclude city states and the oversea colonies (French Guiana, French Polynesia, Greenland).Most European countries parts will be between C and E if you desire more than hiking in a nice cultural landscapes such as abundant interesting wildlife, the right to roam, free camping and easily accessible hunting and fishing then you will have few attractive countries. No European country has it all but usually there are a couple of excellent spots and possibilities to enjoy the outdoors. The again how many US-states have it all? Maybe 6?Norway is a B in my opinion: it has great landscapes and offers a lot of freedom but has very little wildlife that can be spotted outdoors besides seabirds and it has little variety in flora. It's like an early Minecraft version world. Fishing is great, Small game hunting is really good, big game hunting is mediocre.
putting Russia lower the A tier is a crime wtf
>>2839869ahahahahahahahahahahahahah
what strange / spooky stuff have you seen?once when i was in the desert, there was a telephone pole, on it looked exactly like a 10ft tall bird of prey, just eyeing me downit was about a good 5min of walking, which felt like forever, just to see that it was a transformer that looked weird, none of the other poles had it eithersounds dumb, but it really did look exactly like a gigantic human sized hawk, and the "head" even seemed to follow you too, really interesting illusion, since it also hit all the primal parts of the brain that gone "you're about to be fucking eaten by a bird!!!!!!"a year or two later, when i was gonna take a picture, it was gone, which adds a strange air to "it was right there, i tell you!">inb4 go to /x/ for this shiti want real stories, not >i smelled the rotten shit fart gas, and my best friend was turned into a skinwalker, and then i pulled out that gun from videogame and blasted it, dude trust me
>late summer of 2020>bad breakup, pandemic - life is falling apart >plan to cross the Dead Mountains alone - a three day hike in the Austrian alps>first day goes smoothly if slower than expected>day two the heat ramps up>I'm exhausted - nausea keeps me from eating enough >the thought of day three looms heavy in my mind>terrain will only be harder from here on out - nothing but bare rock - the Rotgschirr rising up in front of me like an insurmountable wall>decide to stop early for the day - plan to set up camp near this scenic mountain lake - pic related>descend into the valley flanked by steep walls on either side>not a soul in sight>take an absolutely horrible shit >the light is fading fast - only flat-ish ground is close to these abandoned shepherds huts - finally finish up with the night closing in fast>doze off feeling feverish and exhausted>i shoot up suddenlyComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2802993I've heard ravens "speak" like that too. Their "voices" are creepy, like a deep croaking whisper. They're smart too, probably just like to fuck with humans sometimes.
Back in the 90s, a friend and I were traveling down the 101 through Northern Cali when my truck started overheating. We stopped in a small town in Humboldt County in the late afternoon. The only repair shop in town wouldn't be open until the next day and we didn't have enough money for a hotel room, so my buddy and I decided we'd just go find a spot in the forest to camp for the night.We drove outside of town as far as we could and then walked down from the road to a small clearing we found in the forest. Everything was fine until it got dark We had built a fire and we were just getting comfortable when, all of a sudden we started getting hit by rocks that were being thrown at us from the surrounding darkness. The rocks seemed to be coming at us from different directions, but we could also hear them bouncing off the trunks of the surrounding trees which made it impossible to tell exactly where they were being thrown from. I became irate and started screaming threats and insults into the forest. The only response were more rocks. Whoever was throwing them made no sound whatsoever the entire time, which scared the shit out of me because I had been screaming vile insults toward them at the top of my lungs in the hopes of drawing them out. We even put out the fire to try and make ourselves less obvious targets, but it didn't help much.After about 15 minutes of this my friend and I looked at each other and agreed without saying a word that it was time to GTFO. We stumbled back up the hill to the truck in total darkness as we didn't have a flashlight. They seemed to stop throwing stuff at us once we left the clearing. In hindsight I believe we stumbled upon some kind of illegal grow operation and the "farmers" were trying to scare us off. We didn't know it at the time, but we learned later the area we camped was pretty dangerous at the time due to all of the illegal activity. I guess we're lucky that whoever it was didn't respond to my threats.
>>2839920norcal gets a lot of bigfoot sightings, and rocks being thrown is a common report
anyone w experience in switzerland (Bern, Interlaken, Grindelwald...)planning to go there and could use some advice :-)+any hitchhikers here also?
>>2838969this, even france is better because you don't get constantly hassled by autistic germoïds
>>2839236it's absolutely correct, the only downside of norway is it's much colderhad family there for a while, it's great if you a void the big cities>>2839921can confirm that the biggest problem of switzerland is the swiss, i'd rather go to france
>be me>In Switzerland in Swiss friend>have no clue about the area>tells me about a cool/difficult hike nearby>nice, excited.jpeg>Go on hike up mountian>7 miles with significant elevation gain>Walking past hillside chateau's with families out gardening/picnicking>get to top>why are there so many people>there is a fucking cable car coming from the other side of the mountian with a full blown restaurant/bar at top>full of tourist from cable car>kinda bummed, oh well>Me and buddy each have 3 beers at the bar>pay the tab as a gesture of goodwill/thanksComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2838034you can switch the map to english, french and italian. >>2838956>German-style Bavarian architecture.please kill yourself>>2839117yeah, season is over, from now on it is rain and snow in the mountains most of the time.
>>2839976>German-style Bavarian architectureLel
Where my Wind River Lake CHADS at? Anybody want to share their favorite holiday honey holes? Where do y'all like to fish on vacation?
anglers don't share spots, not to keep it to themselves but because most spots are just as good and you don't want a flock of idiots swarming one spotjust go out there, look at banks, shadow from trees, algae, rocks, rapid currents, all the stuff fishes might like to hide in and throw a line
Alright, which one of you mentally ill losers was this? https://www.sfchronicle.com/outdoors/article/weaverville-pipe-bomb-hiking-trail-20807909.php
>>2834342That's not a pipebomb but a stripped down fleshlight without the outer body
>>2834342shake weight
>>2834418Honest question: do kids no longer play with fire and blow shit up in the woods or empty lots? Do they not snoop around abandoned buildings industrial parks? If not, why not? Video games? Brutal anarcho-tyranny police tactics? Low T? Helicopter parenting?
>>2839943UNC tier comment
>>2839943No, not really. Why? Because they have been utterly hollowed out by phones and internet. Why run into the woods when they can look at tiktok?
Looking for a sidearm for solo backpacking. Shotgun stays home—too heavy. Been relying on blades but want something better for defense (animals or creeps).Would prefer something not too bulky, and manageable recoil-wise (small hands, not a big person). Reliable and woods-worthy.Revolver or semi, open to either.What’s /out/ carrying?
Why does everyone here always recommend .38 and .357 revolvers to women? Just get something comfortable, light, and low recoil like a ruger 5.7, all the girls at my range love that gun. You'll be open carrying anyway so who cares about size.
>>2838996Kek. I'm all for revolvers, since they're just way more reliable, as well as safer, and no one needs 10+ shots for defense against animals anyways, but seriously?>contact firing a grizzly or mooseBetter than nothing, I guess?
>>2831631.380 compact pistolIt just works
>>2831631Best thing you can do is go to a local range and rent a few guns and try them out, see which one feels the best for you. I personally carry a Glock 19 in the woods, but my around town carry is a Springfield Hellcat. Another good option would be a Ruger LCP since it's pretty small and conceals well. Again, try and get some hands on with a few different models and pick whichever you like most!
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Collected about 5 pounds of pawpaw today. What's the best way to process them?
>>2838667if you wanna get real fancy with it get some tweezers and pluck the seeds out if you cant just accomplish the same thing with a knife.
Man pawpaws are delicious. Wanted to hit the festival up in Maryland but apparently it was ticketed and they sold out. Never heard of a fruit festival having to sell tickets but good for them I suppose
>>2839759you mean the one in anacostia?
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>>2839760Nah the one in Frederick, I didn't realize there was one happening that close to the city. Whats the details on that?
Weird hole in the ground edition. pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Mvfh8b87New USDA zone map has been released: https://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/Koppen Climate Map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/K%C3%B6ppen_World_Map_High_Resolution.pngSearch terms:Agrarian, Agriculture, Agrology, Agronomy, Aquaculture, Aquaponics, Berkeley Method Hot Composting, Cold Frames, Companion Planting, Composting, Container Gardening, Core Gardening Method, Cultivation, Deep Water Culture (DWC), Dry Farming, Espalier, Farmer's Market, Forest Gardening, Forestry, Fungiculture, Geoponics, Greenhouses, Homesteading, Horticulture, Hot Boxes, Hügelkultur, Humanure, Hydroponic Dutch Bucket System, Hydroponics, Keyhole Garden, Korean Natural Farming, Kratky Method, Landscaping, Lasagna Gardening, Ley Farming, Market Garden, Mulching, No-till Method, Ollas Irrigation, Orchard, Permaculture, Polyculture, Polytunnels, Propagation, Rain Gutter Garden, Raised Beds, Ranch, Rooftop Gardening, Ruth Stout Garden, Sharecropping, City Slicker Composting, Shifting Cultivation, Soil-bag Gardening, Square Foot Gardening, Stale Seed Bed, Sugar Bush, Truck Farming, Vermiculture, Vertical Gardening, Window Frame Garden, Windrow Composting, Alpaca, Snail, Toad, Trumpeter, Turkey, Worm, biochar, vermicompostinglast thread: >>2826053
>>2840355i was cutting zucchini leaves as they said on youtube videos and it had almost no fruits
>>2840429I have two cherry tomato plants: one I pruned the suckers on like they say to do, the other I just let do what it wants. The pruned one is barely growing because it doesn't have the leafage it needs to get that kind of energy, while the other is growing beautifully with more fruits even though it's in a smaller pot. The shit they say, they tailor to specific conditions that are harmful to people growing outside of those conditions.All this time, stems/flowers were yellowing and dropping off my pepper plant, and I just thought "it must be heat stress, nothing I can do, the temps are too high, I just need to keep the plant alive until it cools down and the pollen can be viable again." Now that I'm doubling up the water, I see more peppers finally starting to grow, and I realize that should have been happening all this time. When you stick your finger in the soil and there's still perceptible moisture in inch or two deep, that's moisture caught between the roots and the surface. Water on the surface evaporates, water at the bottom gets sucked up by the plant, and then there's a zone of moisture nearer to the top that can't be used and isn't doing anything, so you still need to water the plant to get that bottom root zone hydrated.I've been getting fucked over all my life, so it's nothing new. At least now I know the truth.
>>2840434I'm a pepper container grower too, got my plants on a tray and I water them from the bottom, meaning I just fill the tray with water/fertiliser and within 1-2 hours all the water has been sucked up into the containers (by capillary effects?). The plants seem to love it and it takes a whole lot less time to water them.
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>>2840466Why? This is a slow board and this thread is still on page 6.
