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Are there any of these that don't require stupid subscriptions
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>>2753953
garmin has a monopoly because the american government gave it to them
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>>2757296
Garmin has a monopoly because they put y'all on game.
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>>2757298
?
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>>2757296
>garmin has a monopoly because the american government gave it to them
tell me more
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>>2757300
theyre the dod contractor its that easy
same reason why boeing had the monopoly on planes for a long while, until you know

these companies effectively operate as part of the government, thats how boeing got to have government sanctioned goon squads to axe their whistleblowers

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Has anyone managed to fit one of these remote canister stoves inside a 'pot cookset' with the fuel can? Like a 1L pot. I know people do the on top of canister type stoves all the time in small pots, but I want something closer to the ground for actual cooking.
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>>2752155
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>>2752003
Primus sucks.
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>>2755792
Pocket rockets and their knock off red headed step siblings from China are just super compact and easy to carry. You can put it along with a fuel canister in a standard 500ml pot, so they pack nicely for ultralight hiking/camping.
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>>2752155
brrm brrm dum brrm brrm dum......my name is mud.....brrm brrm dum brrm brrm dum
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>>2749691
Remote canisters are less stable, I assure you
I still use one

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Is Pine Mountain, that runs along the border of Virginia and Kentucky part of the Plateau province or the Ridge and Valley province?

It's a long irregular curved ridge running ~ 120 miles continuously from Cumberland Gap to Russell Fork and some geology sources seem to regard it as an extension of the allegheny front, which is both the separation point where the plateau begins running westward, and also where the terrain is most markedly divergent in steepness from east (much more) to west (much less).

But if you just look at a map, both Pine and Cumberland/Stone/Black mountains seem to be up on the plateau and the true Allegheny Front is at Osborne ridge roughly where Flag Rock is outside Norton, Virginia for example. Norton would be on the plateau, the other side (Dungannon) would be the first valley of the ridge and valley as the terrain gradually flattens eastward towards the sea.

The terrain SE of Pine Mountain has diagonal/dendritic shaped creeks - rather than the perpendicularly arranged creeks running 90 degrees into the river valley that you see in the ridge and valley.

So are these papers wrong, and in fact Pine Mountain is not the edge of the plateau or what is going on here? Why would a plateau have a long ridgeline like this geologically?
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>>2755733
usually there's a very defined, demarcated shift where the land on one side of the boundary looks quite different from the land on the other side.
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I thought there might be a geologist floating around here.
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look what I found, not the same area, but similar terrain
so it looks like the plateau has a lot younger rocks closer to the surface whereas the surface of the ridge and valley is millions of years older and there's a discontinuity along the fault between the ridge and valley and plateau

I guess maybe there's multiple faults along pine mountain interacting and that might be what is so confusing
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I'm more interested in geography
I hate that I can't live in the coolest geographic regions of America due to various reasons (money, sociopolitical reasons, government owns it)
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>>2757225
what are the coolest geographic regions of America?

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Have you ever been CAUGHT by a forest janny?
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>>2755200
>derp
not very bussin of you boomer
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>>2755200
The irony
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>>2740818
LMFAO
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>>2735517
More like have you ever been KEKED by a janny
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>>2736866
The post that buck broke nigg/out/

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Unless you install some sort of toilets at the trailhead, I am just going to poop on the trail by squatting on the nearest log. I'm not going to walk 500 ft through nettles and dense brush just so you don't have to smell my stinky. Add a bathroom or expect poop.
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I squat down in a stream just till my asshole is submerged and then it's just like takin a shit in a pool or the beach, no wiping needed
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You couldn't pay me enough to lock myself in a plastic box with a literal pile of shit.
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>>2751704
>>2754314
Have you ever tried shitting yourself? Works for me
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>>2751704
SHITPOST BUMP FROM DOWNTOWN
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>>2753650
So flies don't lick its eyes.

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got this great view while walking about near Stowe, VT. this whole state is like if you set an epic fantasy movie in america, genuinely otherworldly in it’s beauty
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>>2756414
That looks like any random town in the original DayZ. It took me a moment to think of what VT stood for because I forgot Vermont existed.
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>>2756414
It's nice but not unusually nice and winter sucks unless you like to ski
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>>2756414
I'd go on top of that foresty hill, right on the edge, to see what the view's like towards the other side but also back where I came from.
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>>2756414
I am happy for you but I don't see it

pic is OR

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For all things fire lookout / fire tower!

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>>2749999
Good, I need the overtime
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>AI
>steals your /flg/ job
>:smugpepe:
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>>2749982
australia?
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stayed at this little beauty last week, original treated timber poles. was interesting because it had full electric interior including a fridge and range. definitely unique compared to a lot of others i've stayed at which are lucky to even have a wood stove.
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bumbp

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Do you guys prefer short, but steep hikes, or long hikes with gentle slopes?

For instance, going 3000ft elevation gain in ~2-3mi vs 10-15mi
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this used to be "the steepest trail in idaho" (not sure if its true) but they redid the trail to make it less steep and its still a slog
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>>2751705
I enjoy steep hikes I just need to remember you need to drink like 3x as much.
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>>2757102
>Everyone
I would bet you my life's savings that my brother would never be able to make it up that mountain or even a mountain with half the elevation gain. Years ago, we hiked up a mountain with 500' of gain and he barely made it.

Over 40% of Americans are obese so there are more like him. Many of them would have no chance of making it up Quandary or any 14er that you couldn't drive up.
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>>2757125
Fat people can do things, they just can't do them at the same pace as a fit person.

Fat people should hike with other fat people, if they try to hike with fit people they are going to have a bad time.
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>>2757131
This. I've found people who I never would have expected at summits and shit. I can only imagine how long it took them, but they did it.

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I‘m sure I’m not the first one to ask so if anybody can link me some old threads, that would be appreciated. I want to get away from technology and everything and just live a simple life outside. I have a lot of different skills from all the jobs I worked over the years like carpentry, gardening and farming (relevant to this post I worked a bunch more stuff) and I know I can build a hut from scratch so I’m not some kind of dreamer who never worked with his hands, I know the danger, risk and difficulties of what I’m trying to do.

my question now is where?

I thought about Canada, Alaska or the Scandinavian countries (looked mostly at Norway) but the winters there are fucking hard and not having any sun for like half a year would also make it difficult to farm I think (and would simply be depressing). Where can you go and just built something in the woods and live your life? If I have to buy some land that would also work as long as it is not too expensive.
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You are goy swine and the world is a prison.
Thats the real truth.
Gone are the days of living like an actual human.
Now go stuff your face of McDonald’s and get grt the latest vax
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>>2754784
Lame. Go outside.
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Southern Oregon west or south of Grants Pass. You can fish the mountain ponds, the winters are usually mild enough. Grant's Pass motto is literally 'its the climate'. Just stay away from the people for the most part.


have fun anon, let us know how it goes
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>>2753674
Romania. Untouched nature, cheap land for sale, cheap coat of living, lots of freedom. Can't shoot the bears though, not allowed.
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>>2757057
>Can't shoot the bears though, not allowed
can I beat them up with my fists?

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My parents offered to get me a new bike, a hybrid for on/off road, but I really have no idea what's a quality brand for the money. Any suggestions? Preferably something around $500.

Thanks for any help!
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>>2756523
If you want to do any rocky rides then get mtb. Over time you can just buy a second set of wheels and swap them when you gonna hit the road.

Gravel is a meme. Wide tire makes you slow on the road and no suspension makes it unbearable on anything more than flat / sandy forest roads
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>>2756817
not everyone's a spandex wearing faggot
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>>2756523
Gravel is quite a broad term. They're hybrid bikes. They're somewhere between a touring bike and a mountain bike. There is no standard gravel bike. Some have 3 chainrings, while others 1. Most but not all have a lot of attachment points to carry bags. They usually have no suspension. Steel frames are common, but aluminum or carbon also exists.

I don't mind taking my gravel bike through the occasional muddy path, but it is certainly not made for extreme mountain biking or technical tracks. They're made for long distance unhardened but non-technical paths.

Meanwhile mountain bikes have gotten more specialized over the years. Can't really imagine doing long tours with one of them.
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>>2756916
>Wide tire makes you slow
now this is a meme.
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>>2757080
>>2757084
what about this one? https://www.decathlon.com/products/triban-grvl120-gravel-bike
do you think it's good? i had a 500€ MTB from decathlon which was shit, i literally couldn't go up 8% incline on it lol. and i drove sub 80€ bikes before for uber eats with no problems

do any of you have /out/ jobs?
i keep fucking failing since i’m a retard. don’t know what to do or even if this is the right board to ask.
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>>2756220
>Here's an engineering level certification for how to completely fuck up nature in ways that the government approves of.
Ah yes, the cancer at it's core.
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>>2756479
phase i's are for real property due diligence. every real property, except inter-state / tribal / federal shit. there are no requirements for SFR; however, interested parties can always pay two or three thousand for an ESA if they feel like it. 90% of the phase i esa jobs are commercial properties, like taco bell, apt complexes, malls, warehouses, etc...

if you want to discuss those federal reports where they investigate EVERY aspect of disturbing untouched land that travels across multiple states, you are thinking of NEPA reports. NEPA. NEPA. ESAs are local research reports, essentially. ive always been Pinchot kinda guy. Muir can suck a dick on some mountaintop.
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>>2756478
i failed surveying and chemistry but chem was by 1%. bio was actually easy
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>>2756478
and to your second point yes it’s all propaganda. they unironically shill shit like electric cars and “sustainable development”
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>>2756021
If you're good at memorizing things and kinda autistic consider wildlife. You get to live in field housing and do field work for grad students. You will have no money.

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Can we have an /out/ clothing/gear recommendations thread?

>only post stuff you've personally tried
>it's ok to post stuff you specifically didn't like

i'll go first. I've been using a Drago brand bag for about 8 years now, and they are very durable and great stitching. Have packed over 40lbs into these small bags and they still hold up well. It seems Drago may have went out of business through covid, but there bags are found cheap on ebay and apparently amazon still too
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I need an entry level tent and sleepbag recommendation. My country has hot climates ranging from humid to somewhat dry.
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>>2748515
I still have a few pairs from working correction, OD green though. Everyone at my institution wore Propper or 5.11. I tried both, Propper are thicker, more robust, less flexible. 5.11s are thinner, lighter, more flexible, arguably more comfortable but not as robust.
Either way I support your recommendation
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>>2749190
Based thriftshop outfitter.
full stainless gets my vote if you're going to be beating up the wares. Cast iron is amazing but very heavy. Carbon steel is about the same way.
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Any recommendations on a toiletry bag/case?
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>>2747217
Janny on k banned me for saying fuck war tourist so I'll ask here. Should I use disposable earplug cut up and put in the gaps of my comms for extra sealing or something else?

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yes.
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>>2756189
Cozy
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Did you guys ever get into a fight while nightwalking?

>be nightwalking in my suburb
>feral aboriginal talking to himself ahead of me
>looks me in the eye
>starts rambling incoherently about me being a white dog
>charges at me
>has crackhead teeth and the dirtiest fingernails imaginable, looks like if he breathed in your direction you'd catch some sort of disease
>run away
>gives up chasing me after a while and just yells at me
>calls me a bitch
>get so pissed off at these feral useless lazy cunts that I turn around
>do a double leg, ground and pound the cunt while he scratches the fuck out of my face with his disgusting nails
>eventually beat him enough that he just covers up
>scratches don't get infected by the grace of god

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Aren't you worried about being mugged?
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>toss parakeet seed as i walk at night
>several people in the neighborhood cull pigeons
>wrens, quail, Jay birds, woodpeckers move in
>out reproduce the few remaining pigeons
>neighborhood is now stocked with tiny birds
>continue occasionally spreading parakeet seed at night to keep birds spread out
Another couple seasons, and my goal will be complete
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Cozy
>>2756630
Mental

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Bit of a stupid question. Are crampons sold as a set or individually?
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>>2756440
Thanks!

>>2756442
>You wrote the same thing as me
And you revealed yourself as a terminally online imbecile. Practice talking to people IRL.
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>>2756572
You tell us, never set foot in wogistan.
>>2756619
You want to cover yourself with a shelter half. In the summer. Have you ever left your house?
Do you also wear strap shoes because you can't tie them? Fucking hell the mental cases of this board.
Get a bloody grip you sad clown, you're not quirky just pathetic.
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>>2725949
Anyone have any recommendations for a dumbphone that can call/text, with long battery life and thats rugged enough to handle being in a pocket that might get bumped by rocks and other stuff? I was looking at some CAT phones and the Nokia tough phone, but I figured yall may have some tips.
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>>2756809
I would never buy Nokia again, CAT seem to have laughable prices.
I'd get a non-touch brick cellphone, preferably old Nokia, and put it in a small drybag.
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>>2726777
They don’t. I’m literally the only one here who’s ever done it. I’m not joking.

Logistics differ by location. You’ll probably need two accommodations to bookend your trip. After your flight, you’ll have to buy fuel for your stove then travel to the National Park. Popular spots have shuttles, many have buses, and some have trains. As far as I know, there are no trailheads at any airports.

So you either land, buy fuel (and bear spray), then head to a hotel or get to a campground in the NP, or you land, stay at a hotel, then buy fuel and shuttle in the next morning. The latter is safer because flights can be delayed but shuttles and busses don’t run 24/7.

The same goes for heading home. You’ll want a shower somewhere and probably some junk food. Hotels are more comfy, have laundry service, and rides are more flexible. If you can only afford one, the second night in a hotel is the better option.

TSA has a pretty extensive list of things you can’t bring onto a plane. Trekking poles, tent stakes, pocket knives, axes, saws, and shovels (even tiny aluminum trowels) have to be checked. AliExpress sells cheap trekking pol storage bags that are perfect for this. Fuel and bear spray can’t be brought on a plane, so unless you’re using a twig stove you’ll have to buy them when you arrive. Firearms have their own rules, so look into that if you plan on carrying. Each airline has different size requirements for carryons, but unless you have a monstrous 70L pack you’ll be fine.

I’ve never checking everything. If it’s a regular travel trip for business or vacation or whatever and they lose your stuff it’s not that big of a deal. But if you’re going hiking and they lose everything you might as well turn around and go home.

Also, you could just roll the dice that the dumbfuck TSA tards done even know the rules. There are lots of anecdotes about people just bringing everything into the plane. I wouldn’t risk that either.

please help anons
what can I do to save this san pedro?
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>>2755151
*Atleast 5 hours of direct (Overhead) sunlight a day if you want it to flower. Evening and Morning sun aren't as good as full afternoon sun if those are your options.
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Do you think this cactus is doing good? Its a cutling I planted three weeks ago, it seems to get green in the middle and I hope it will grow roots soon. How can I judge its fine without digging it out?
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>>2756650
Just leave it. They take a long time to root and sometimes won’t even start growing until the next season, then they will take off. As long as it’s not shriveling up after 3 weeks, keep doing what you’re doing.
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Cactus flowers are a trip
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>>2756650
The pot looks way to big for that plant but if it has really good drainage it should be fine.


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