>"being outdoors is peaceful">spend my entire day off on a lake>at the end suddenly get hit with massive existenial anxiety of how little time i have left, how insignificant i am, how nobody really cares about me, and how i am wasting my life doing nothing
>>2871919You have to give up. It's only after you've lost everything that you're free to do anything.This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time.
>>2871919Fishin ain't catchin, it's fishinLife ain't dyin, it's livin
>>2871919you absorbed way too much "main character" narrative from the fictions you have consumed through your life, you are the main character in your own life, but the universe isn't going to give you a hero's journey, and that is okay, you just need to process through that.
>>2871953This image sums up my attitude. I've come to terms that because of my disability I'll never accomplish some of my larger goals in life like getting married, having kids, buying a house etc... So I'll take my neet bux and chill. I'm living pretty comfy. I have friends, a family, a church, I'm good.
>Dad tells me to go outside moreWhat am I supposed to do? I've been walking my entire life, it's boring, and I don't live near mountains or a national park so it's even more boring. I'm not athletic so I can't do outdoor sports. I don't know how to build a cabin or have anywhere to do so. I don't know how to fish or harvest wild food. What would the point be anyways? I told him this and he shrugged and walked away.
>>2871903>I'm not athletic so I can't do outdoor sportsIf you're very fat, you should just walk and eat less until running without hurting your knees becomes possible. If you aren't that fat, you can skip it. Then do a 1 mile run followed by a 2 mile walk 5 days a week. Then expand the running part until you can run entire 3 miles. Then try to do it faster and faster.Also swimming is good no matter how unathletic you are.
>>2871908what about cycling
>>2871910According to my lazy ai research, in terms of burning calories running>swimming>cycling>walking
>>2871910i personally find running to be uncomfortable, so cycling worked great for me. You should do at least 10 kilometers every day if you want to benefit from doing it (start with smaller distances if you arent used to doing exercise). You dont need a fancy bike, but gears are a must have. start slow, stay consistent, and youll have lots of fun.
Would you still hunt or fish if animals could talk?
>>2867897Bix nood
>>2867887Guy goes to talent agent with dog.>Guy: I have this talking dog.>Agent: Ok, let's see.>Guy: What is on top of house?>Dog: Roof, roof!>Guy: What is on the side of a tree?>Dog: Bark, bark!>Guy: Who is best baseball player?>Dog: Ruth, ruth!>Agent: Get out of my office!Dog and guy sitting on curb.>Dog: Dimaggio?
>>2867887The drug addled transients who try to nest on my property can almost mimic human speech and that doesn't stop me.
>>2871556Love thy neighbor
>>2867967You find dog shit on the ground too. Doesn't mean you'd hold it up for a photo. No one would ever hold up a shed in a kill photo.
Post your tents, your tentfu, which will be your next acquisition, etcI currently have my first tent (a typical cheap igloo camping tent, Hummer Igloo 3+) and 2 ultra light 3 season tents (forclaz mt900 tarp tent for 1 and 2 persons). I have used the latter in high mountain before, during summer (which is still cold), but usually in this part of Los Andes the wind is too strong for my tent. So I'm planning to buy a 4 season tent more appropriate for high-altitude and strong winds.Around here most people use the mountaineering line of Doite, pic related would be the one appropriate for my needs. The thing is that here tents are particularly expensive (that one costs +400usd), and I think I might be able to buy something half that price in the US, but I'm not familiar with US brands. Which one would you recommend?
>>2871818>the pain problem I usually have with nets is that they need to be held up by something or they will just fall on your face which is annoying and if its directly against you mosquitoes can bite through them anyway.The ones I linked are all designed to be suspended from the tarp above you, or along some ridgeline, or directly onto hiking poles. Does your tarp have internal tieouts? If not, you can just run line across the ridgeline to connect them to. And I have the same preference regarding bugnets, I don't want it to touch me and I don't want bugs buzzing centimeters away from my face all night either. I also don't want it to be something finicky that I have to finesse every time.I'm a tarp camper too so I get the appeal of the tarp for sure. I just think your bivy is redundant, since the tarp already provides protection from rain and wind. The tarp can't protect you from bugs, but the bivy is, imo, too heavy and expensive for that alone compared to the ones I linked.. >packed up its like 2 ft long.That's crazy! Pic rel is the packed size of the MLD bug bivy.I've considered getting an X-mid too but I just don't think I'd enjoy it as much as tarp camping. It's nice feeling like you're really sleeping out innawoods, not confined in a tent.
>>2871821>That's crazy! Pic rel is the packed size of the MLD bug bivy.Thats like the perfect size, im going to look up some video reviews of this thing and seriously consider getting it> but I just don't think I'd enjoy it as much as tarp camping Same, and the MLD bug bivy is way more open then the one I have now, If I can make it work it might be perfect for what I want.Thanks for recommending that thing.
>>2871824Yeah anytime homeslice. That one’s on the top of my list right now too. The MLD bug bivy 2 (pic rel) packs down just as small but offers more rain protection though, kinda closer to your bivy. The site shows it as yellow but it’s actually green I guess.
>>2871830>rain protectionrain and draft protection
>>2867071how'd you set it up on such a steep incline?
Hello everyone. I hope this is the best board to write this, so bare with me :)I have been saving up a lot of money, and I'd like to buy a block of land that is currently for sale near me. It's a great price, decent space, it's in a perfect location near my work, friends and family, etc.The only problem is that it is zoned "farming zone", and as such, one cannot easily build a dwelling on it.So, I'd like to ask any Australians here if they have had experience with such a thing. Is there a "loophole" around building something? Or are there any other solutions?Thank you :)
>>2871756Nope, not the original pic :)Speaking of the council, they aren't great haha.One other thing in regards to farming zoned land is camping. Do you know if it would be possible for something like a permanant caravan?
>>2871757>permanantThats too much of a gamble.All it takes is 1 dickhead neighbor and you get evicted from your own property and now youre living in a motel.Its not just "its been parked here too long". You can run into issues with sewage management and now its "here's your fine for not having a septic system for an illegal semi-permanent residence".Trying to fly under the radar works until that new recruit picks up a bogey on the S400 and hits the fire button.You might have a council that doesnt give a shit and you get away anything for years then that one new guy comes in and you dont have approval for jack shit so he goes full scorched earth simply because hes drunk with power from his new piddly.ass position.
>>2871757>>2871760This is why our so called freedumbs are a joke. Not even allowed to live on the land we purchase unless you spend shitloads of money on a house or pick some rundown shithole in the middle of nowhere.Id happily pay 40 grand and camp in my own humble strip of bushland, but nooo that would mean escaping wagiedom and homelessness is too easy. If govt dont want shantytowns, they could just have population limits.
>>2871765There's actually a lot of land around me for sale, but because the government has designated it farming zone, it's all kind of just rotting.No one maintains it, and it doesn't even look good lol.
>>2871770That actually sucks. I'm on 40 acres of old farmland.>farmer died 40 some odd years ago.>wife stays in the farmhouse on social security until she passes.>property auctioned off for back taxes.>speculator buys it, cuts it into parcels and sells it off.I got half (originally 1 parcel then recently the adjoining parcel came back on the market) so the guy who got the other half is my only "neighbor". All the other lots are 200-500 acres.
/out/ with dog
>>2870632The spot we hiked was absolutely lush. Grass was about shin high but came up to my hips in some spots. Had to give her a bath when we got home cus it was so muddy.
>>2870647But Mr. bot sir, that's a Tesla.
>>2870735i wish he had been more successful desu. (and not at painting.)
>>2857694doubt with ogg
>>2870565this is a lovely thing to think about.
The shit you find on a 4 hour hiking trail up the mountain,the smell can be described as steaming shit with a sour smell to it if any of you wanted to know what a dead corpse smells like.Was ugly to look at ,one of its front legs was a little bit off to the left but I didn't take a picture of that ,the eyes where gone and it's anus looked prolapsed as you walk by it and look back one last time ,kept walking the trail until I got to the summit .
>>2871238Always dreamed about getting those flesh eating beetles, grabbing some roadkill, and getting into bone working.Already asking a lot of sheltered vegetarian GF by killing the chickens we raise tho. Maybe I'll build up her tolerance for death one day.
>>2871238There won’t be much left. Scavengers will run off and scatter a lot of the remains. Bears will break open the long bones and feast on the delicious bone marrow (seriously, bone marrow is fantastic). Feral hogs will straight up eat smaller bones. It’s why you never really happen upon an entire skeleton in the woods but might find a few bones here and there. I once found 6 or 7 vertebrae in the middle of an abandoned forest service road. No flesh, skin, cartilage, or other bones.
I can't smell death for some reason, like at all. I can be standing right next to a rotting carcass and I don't smell a thing. I can smell other things fine. Does anyone else have this issue?
I was working once and came across this random pile of dead fish a few hundred feet off of a busy road. It was huge and surrounded by vultures, I don't know why someone would dump that much fish. There was also a dying deer nearby lying in the bushes, I guess someone had accidentally hit it and dragged it off the road or something but why they took it so far off of the road idk, maybe it got hit on the dirt road down that path instead of the main road. It was just lying there gasping for air. When we finished working that day on our way back to the truck it wasn't moving anymore. Still don't know what to think about any of that.
>>2871499i seem to have the same problem. i've found deer carcasses that looked like the op picture and not smelled anything.
>>286990210/10 would let the little fella ravage my cucumbers, if you know what i mean.
>>2869902Does the little friend have a name?
>>2869902eww
>>2869902
>>2869902You call that a slug?
How to make friends to go backpacking with as a chud literally just too scared to camp alone but I love backpacking
>>2871196>>2871212just move to MA (another mid /out/ state) and join my climbing gym. i'll sail you across the harbor to a pine cove beach forest with fresh mussels, wild boysenberries, tidal bathing, and marsh mud skincare. the rape risk is only like 2% cuz you could scream and multiple houses across a small marsh would hear it and call the cops. all jokes aside, i would murder a baby for a gf who enjoyed doing this.
>>2870756sorry, but I don't hike with racists.
>>2870754join the closest hiking or backpacking or mountaneering club you can find, go on some trips with them, slowly build up contacts and confidence and experience
>>2871612You have no idea.
How do I find a racist /out/ bf who is NOT a gun nut or a weeb?
Not too certain which one to Get. From L-R, Durston X-Mid 1, Outdoor Vitals Cirq, SMD Lunar Solo
>>2871465>>2871458>>2871358>>2871355>>2871354This is a pretty good idea for a bathtub, too.. Just a groundsheet with some bungees.
>>2871358Maybe I was wrong. This one comes very close.
>>2871355I have decided that this (or the equivalent splash bivy, pic rel) is the best option.This video convinced me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_wQ8KKw13wEverything's just really clean and not janky, looks elegant and it was nice to see something other than an A-frame pitch. At 5.5oz with noseeum netting and a full enclosure, bit of a bathtub too, it's hard to justify going with anything else. The downside is you can't sit up in it, but it seems endeavoring to sit upright under tarps with bug protection is futile anyway.
>>2871664>>2871355I take it back. What would really be best is the one on the right (pic rel), with the bathtub floor from the HMGs. These have top entry, and only need 2 tieouts rather than HMG's 3, and a round footbox. I emailed MLD to see if they'd either do a custom order and make that or just mail the netting and I can sew it to a DCF tub at home. I don't want to own more than one shelter system personally, so I'm just trying to find the right addition to my current bivy-less tarp setup so I'd feel comfortable camping with extreme bugs/critters or in cold + windy areas, where the wind would evade the tarp and sap my warmth. I'd rather it be a purely open top above the bath tub too since that's the whole point of a tarp.
>>2871718Something like this seems pretty logical to me though (the bathtub height). The bathtub provides the wind/draft and splash protection, and the top is completely breathable. It's hard to imagine needing much more. Not too hot in summer and bugproof, but enough protection from wind/rain otherwise when used in conjunction with a tarp.
Avenza just started charging for everythingand I'm a cheapskateany alternatives you guys use?
Gaia and Natural Atlas still let you do a bunch for free
Topo Nonad on iPhone. The interface allows for easy access to USGS maps. I know those are public domain; you’re only paying for the ease of access. And it’s a “99 year subscription”. You pay one time and you have the app for 99 years rather than a monthly subscription. I think it’s like $20 now. You can upload custom geospatial PDS as well. So if you use the CalTopo website and create a custom map you can download it and view it in the Topo Nomad app. One of the neat features is that it also has historic maps. So if you find an old road or trail you can search really old maps to see if it’s marked. And Vice versa; you can find old roads on outdated maps that have long since been abandoned but are still there in some form. I know of a few spots where trails were re-routed because of blowdowns or the trail collapsing into a ravine or obstacles. It’s nothing major; they’re all just a mile or so different. But those sections still exist.
the estimated cost of refilling the Aral is around 1.1T USD, or 4.5T at maximum speedrun autismshould we just give the bill to Russia?they can just pay it with the cotton they farmed, ez
>>2871439>The issue is CCP money drilling ultra deep wellsThen complain about your government not doing the same.Or about your government even allowing the drilling of fuck deep wells.
>>2871504>government even allowingBootlicker! Statist! Librul treehugger!
>>2870946>should we just give the bill to Russia?Yeah because Russia is going to pay lmao. fucking delusional kids man.
>>2870946russias got way bigger bills to pay in the coming decades
>>2870946Why would Russia pay a bill? The Soviet Union did it. Surely Kazakhstan is also responsible? Bill them as well.
How do I put this piece of shit back in the back? there's always some air left inside, even after using a pump
>>2868873roll it
>>2868873There's always going to be a bit of air left even after using the pump. Though, Big Agnes if I remember wasn't as bad as my Uber Lite pad. I think the bag that's included is not that great either, but what you need to do is open the valve and let it sit for awhile and then fold it and then gradually push out the air while you are rolling it. Once its rolled you can push it against your body to get more of the air.
>>2868873You don't. Your overly abused rectum is what you tote it around in now. Will you also carry my lawn chair please? Thanks bro.
>>2868873Put it in a bigger sack with the rest of your sleep system. Folding it and rolling it the same way every time will make it develop leaks faster.
>>2868873>there's always some air left insidetheres youre problem
I signed up for some backpacking class for next week and realized I will have to poop in the wild. I'm fucking scared, bros.
>>2871435Yeah me too
>>2868423As long as youre not pooping on the trail it will be fine. Animals do it all the time
>>2871368bro i got enough on my plate i aint doing stuff to stop poo dogs
>>2871389your threats are meaningless, for we know you do not go outside.
Travel diapers so you can go while you're on the go. Streamline everything.
As a person who has no family interested in anything remotely outdoorsy who could teach them anything, how the fuck do you get into the hobby?I don't know shit about fishing. I don't know shit about hunting. I want to get into camping but also don't want to do something fucking retarded because I have zero clue what I'm doing.Should I start just by reading? Any books for retards on the subject?Or should I just say fuck it and go /out/ and learn through trial and error?
Just do itAlso read some /out/ books for motivation, like with Wolfe in Canada, or some abridged version of lewis and clark's journals (potentially with annotations)
Just today I went and got my first rod and reel with some basic shit for $100. You could probably even go cheaper honestly if you just start with some worms. Just soak up information from YouTube videos. My plan is to start my own handbook, just write down anything I learn from videos or experience so I can reference it. Shit like what kind of lure is good for certain fish, environment, weather, etc.Camping is the same, just start with the basics and go to a campsite with lots. Sure it’s not as magical as backpacking innawoods, but you will get practice with your gear and doing little things like making kindling with a hatchet or cooking with a campfire.Hunting is a little harder to just jump into in my opinion, much bigger investment. I guess take a hunter safety class first and foremost. No matter what outdoor hobby you decide to try, just keep in mind your gonna suck ass at first, literally everyone does without practice and staying determined to learn.
>>2868626I can proudly say I learned fishing all by myself, self taught mostly from watching youtube and scouring angler forums. If you autistically put your mind (and money) to something you'll eventually get there. I love my dad but he was always at work and when he wasn't he'd just want to sit on the TV and was never really an outdoorsy type, so I had to learn it all by myself including the knots. A lot of frustration and cortisol spikes were had learning the ropes but I'm honestly glad I took the leap and did it, or I'd be regretting it 50 years later when I'm retired and have no hobby to enjoy in life
Just use AI to learn. For me, river crossing alone first time tomorrow morning. Waiting for the glacial ablation to minimize or whatever chatgpt told me. I have weak calves but it has the benefit of reducing drag on the current
>>2868626at least for fishing, there's a lot of really good fishing information online. youtube videos are a good source, although you do need to manage your expectations because you're just getting into fishing. you probably won't catch fish the first few times around because you either don't have the right size hooks or bait. i wouldn't worry too much about lures for now, using lures without knowing what you're even going after, proper casting, or a general idea of how lures work underwater is just going to lead to frustration and ragequitting. it doesn't hurt to read some books on the subject too, at this point with how much AI has contaminated the internet, I generally don't trust online resources anymore. choose books written pre-2020. and as for gear, just get cheaper gear. gearwise the only specialty thing you need is a rod, line, reel, hooks, weights, and a bucket. everything else you can sub with random junk. i've seen grandmas with shopping totes outfish guys with expensive gear. a lot of expensive gear is overrated and not necessary. if you're in california, try one of ken jones's books. he's a touch on the lib side but good information regardless.also, know the laws and regulations for fishing/hunting. there's a lot of dumbass "gotcha" kind of regs out there that are mindnumbingly stupid but they can still fine you for dumb shit. game wardens tend to not have a sense of humor.as for camping, just stick with known campgrounds at first. car camping isn't a bad option since it's affordable, you really only need a gas burner and a pan to cook and a pot for cowboy coffee. and a car lets you bug out in case if thing go south. but learn some outdoors skills and basic local wilderness knowledge, and you'll learn more as you go along.
