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What are the best folding camping saws in 2026?
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>>2862205
I've been using the Sven saw since I was a scout 3 decades ago. Always going to be my pick for processing wood at camp.
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Silky big Boi
Or katana if you need big logs cut.
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>>2862212
Yeah, there are certain things that I buy the cheap version of because I'm okay with just fucking one up and getting a new one. This would go into that category
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Silky big boy with a spare blade but I dont hike with it any more. It's a larp tool for now. If I do ever want make a perma shelter with it I can.
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>>2862413
You read my mind. They make chainsaws incredibly small now as well if I don't want to worry about charging anything

I'm gathering ideas for biomes and natural environments. I'd like to know if anyone knows of any natural environment or biome that they find pretty. It could be a description, a picture of nature that you like, anything helps.
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Temperate rainforest / redwood forest
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>>2862209
this, super exotic. Shit like the Paramo in the Andes or Costa Rica, the Amazon tepuys, or my favorite is this shit (pic) in Africa.
Temperate rainforests are also cool, which are also a bit exotic for me.
But I think if I lived and hiked all the time in these biomes then I'd be most excited for deserts or mountains or something. Variety is the spice of life. And if I had to choose one to spend all my time time I'd probably not pick a bog, I imagine it would get tiring.
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>>2862369
Have you been to Lilley Cornett woods, in eastern KY?
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>>2862318
Well I live out east and the woods here are nice but nothing compares to out west.
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>>2862474
you probably just haven't gone looking for the cool stuff
feel free to fuck off to the west

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I want to have camping adventures like Rin chan, traveling with a tent and staying in camping places around southern germany and central europe as a whole, but I need to make a choice

Either I go the Rin route and buy a scooterlike motorbike or I buy an e-bike

On one hand with the motorbike I get to go farther away and faster and have more carrying capacity, but with the e-bike I have full access to europe's large bike trail network and can travel by train with it when necessary. Also, thanks to the engine, hilly terrain isn't a problem

Help me make a choice
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>>2854573
Hey guys I want to larp as my favorite character from a Chinese cartoon. How to do it? You are visiting 4chan you are a larper or a retard or retard larper. If you try to camp you will burn down the forest like that Mexican retard a few years ago.
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This is possibly the most retarded thread I have ever read on this site holy shit.
OP do whatever you want. Car cucks will cry about anything as they are picrel.
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>>2854573
you're a retarded larper who will abandon this idea within two days but motorbike. for the sole reason of range and you can just like get some gas and be ready to go. even with a long range electric motorcycle to charge it will take 5ever and once you're at a place with stable electricity you may as well just get a hotel room and it's not really "camping" anymore

and i say this as a newly minted ebike enthusiast. they're not really suited for long trips or "camping"

>>2856294
you ride well onto the shoulder past the white line where cars shouldn't be, not in traffic going the wrong way. it's pretty antiquated advice, these days they say to just ride with traffic because cagies are retards who use the shoulder to pass even though it is very illegal so at least if you're going with it they should see you and a difference of 10kmh might help you not die more than being able to see the net 120kmh karen swerving at you
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>>2856682
>>2856744
the motors on ebikes have a shocking amount of resistance when the battery is flat. do not get an ebike thinking "oh its just an assist lol :)" unless you have some way to mechanically unlink the drive wheel from the motor (and do so easily)
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Just buy a 50-80cc 2stroke engine kit and put it on a bike and your set

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'Sup /out/. I've got some yard projects I want to do this spring that I'll need to mix some cement for, problem is my only mode of transportation is my bike (It's so over for suspendedlicensecels) and the smallest bag of pure cement the nearest hardware store sells is 45lbs. So, any of you guys have experience carrying heavy shit on a Bike? Also general bike hauling thread.

My main bike is a pretty sturdy steel no-name step-through with a sturdy rear rack, but I've got no clue how to attach it without tearingtheskin of the thin paper bag, I also have some old retail store bikes I could chop into a trailer.
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>>2859742
I don't think 45lbs is too much for a good rack, I know that mounted correctly the cheapo sunlites will do 40-50lbs without an issue. That said I think your issue is going to be density. That's just a lot of weight in a small size and unless your frame is set up for it it's going to be fairly high up. Not impossible though.

Weight is usually easier to carry on the front and that's how you will see a lot of big cargo bikes and stuff like the cargo forks set up. Trailer would also be a good idea since the weight will be much lower. Even if you found one for kids/dogs 45lbs is well within their official weight limits. I think for your purposes if not doing anything else, get a tupperware bin or similar, a couple of bolts and fender washers and attach a tub directly to the rack. That will keep the bag from getting shredded by straps or whatever. But I would be very cautious about turns and hills with that weight over the back wheel.

I am also going through similar not out of the same need but financial. I have the municipal dump that offers a free scrap yard, free mulch, and free soil if I can get to it just about a mile away. I hope acquire a bike trailer so I can get those yard supplies for free, even it's one or two containers a day. I work from home so it would be trivial to have the bike ready to rock over lunch, bounce over with a shovel, and dump it where it needs to be in the yard.
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>>2859939
Rope worked for me, but straps would be easier. Just remember to put cardboard or something over the frame if you don't want to scratch up the paint, straps can damage the clearcoat with enough rubbing.
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>>2859742
Milk crate zip tied to the rack does wonders. I have hauled a 37lbs propane tank on a short but very rough & bumpy gravel trail on a cheap rear rack in this fashion. Use half-decent zip ties, at least 8 of them, in alternating angles.

However in your situation I'd think it's worth it to put a trailer on. carry way more with way less risk.

also /n/ is better for this specific query, more of the bike nerds are there. but bikes fit here too
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>>2859742
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXZsHqF_f7w
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>>2859742
I saw a Mexican guy run out of harbor freight with an 60+lb floor jack and ride away with it under one arm on a BMX bike
One bag of cement at a time should be no problem

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africa is the most slept on /out/ing place. south africa is noob-tier, but also immensely beautiful.

ethiopia is criminally underrated. it is an absolutely stunning country with one of the richest histories in the world.
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>>2862082
Cowering at home is a very spineless and weak thing to do
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is no one gonna mention that the two trips talked about in this thread were in the 1960's and africa is objectively way less safe in the grand scheme of things then it was then. Sure there are individual places that are much more developed and safe then in the 60's but the continent has been degrading consistently since they kicked out the dutch
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>>2861906
>I drove around South Africa and didn't feel unsafe
I feel a lot safer in countries that don't need street signs like picrel
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>>2861906
Thanks anon, I will be looking for the gore video
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>>2862092
Feel like it's worth pointing out the trip I posted was not intended to be "hey look Africa is super safe guys!" (If you watch the video they talk about sleeping in French forts overnight due to the war in Algeria iirc).

I posted it to make a point about Africa Addio being presented as fact when it's largely re-enacted after the fact and was designed specifically to show a biased view point from the start. It would be like walking to Donetsk and saying all of Europe is like that.

Like I said, Africa is full of very desperate people who see your white (presumably) skin as a way to get out of that situation. It's not even that they hate you particularly, it's that they see you as a means to an end. Add to that the lack of medical facilities and insurgent groups in most nations in Africa and it's a truly stupid place to visit unless you're with a tour group going to a tourist area.

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The perfect hiking food.
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>>2862001
>milk
My ancestors conquered Eurasia on milk.
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>>2862017
what cut of the horse is this? or is it ground up horseburger?
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>>2862017
I saw it in a store when I was in Belarus, but didn't buy it. I'll try it next time. I hope it doesn't smell too much like horses.
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>>2862018
Brugly.
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>>2862001
>running gels are not sugar + condensed milk
Yeah, they're like pure sugar. Whereas sweetened condensed milk is only like 80% sugar.

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What's some of your favorite /out/ approved kinos?
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>>2859197
Yes. Look up a whitewater dory
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>>2859727
>This video is private
The fuck was it?
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Eight Below was my favorite film when I was an early teenager lol.
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There's a new position open at the firm. Indoor sissymen need not apply, it's trial by water.
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>>2862083
I growed up on Disney's White Fang and Iron Will. I actually have never seen Eight Below but it's nice to see they kept making those frigid snowdog movies. Such charming shit.

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alpinists are douchebags
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>>2860771
>these identiclone icy rocks are so special

kek so much this!
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>>2860771
you've scored bit of an own goal, really
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>>2860746
I’ve hunted at alpine elevation most of my life. Know a few of these guys and run into them in the wild from time to time. I mean 90% of the reason I hunt is just to be in the wilderness and at elevations above where most people go so I get the appeal of it but yeah they’re very douchey about it. I’ve taken a few on some hunts and even though we generally don’t summit anything major they have a really tough time keeping up, they always think they need more gear than they do but their ropes and gear and skill come in really helpful for retrieving hard to get carcasses. I’ve done a few summits nothing major it was cool I’ll give them that but I need a reason other than it’s cool to go up a mountain.they get really mad at me when I do scrambles without equipment bc muh rock slides n shit. I’ve been out there my entire life tho. Maybe one day it will catch up with me but I just always feel like I’m at home out there whereas they’re just visitors.
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>>2862066
you don't hunt at 10,500', larper. yeah there are a couple 2-3 animals that high to hunt but it's not a regular thing and it's definitely not something to you've been doing your whole life.


stop larping. start going outside and go hiking.
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>>2862088
Big horn sheep you’ve got to go above the tree line. I’m an old man I’ve prob been in the mountains longer than you’ve been alive and no I don’t hunt at 10k constantly, but sometimes to get the shot you’ve got to go up there. I’d prefer to take all my shots from low to high but sometimes it’s just not feasible. Big horn sheep are one of the biggest prizes for any hunter. People pay 40k min for the cheap guides. Only 1k bighorn sheep are taken per yr in the entire US. hunters wait a lifetime for a lottery draw tag or pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for an outfitter. When people pay that kind of $ they want results. I can’t give them results if I’m not in the mountains all the time. I’ve brought alpinists along with me on several guided tours bc as a mentioned their knowledge and skill set on the mountain is very helpful. Especially when my hunt is with some flatlander. They like me on their climbs too they just think I take too many risks and I think they’re being babies.

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Anyone ever do a ski-rafting trip before? I'm planning this route for the spring. Skiing 40 some miles across the Harding Icefield followed by 30 some miles of packrafting across Tustumena lake.
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bruh. is op dead??
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>>2862034
I'm not doing this now. The lake is frozen. I will do this in June.
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how do you not fall in crevasses while on glaciers
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>>2862046
The danger is pretty low for the majority of the trip as the main icefield is very flat with significant snow cover. Crevasse danger will be the highest near the lower part of the Tustumena glacier leading into the lake. I'm not very concerned about it though.
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>>2862046
Go around them. They're not that big of an issue unless you're in some crazy ice field.

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Any disabled hikers here who stick to easy trails?
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>>2859871
It's not easy lacking depth perception but you adjust fairly quickly. I just have to take it a little slower and "test" each step before I fully commit my weight to it on uneven slopes. I trip over rocks all the time but that's because I'm being retarded and trying to go at my pre-injury pace, if I actually take the time to slow down then it's really not that bad.

What sucks the most is that I'm "mostly" blind in that eye. I can see very rough shapes, colors, and outlines, to the point where I suffer from major double vision where one eye is clear and sharp and the other is, well, not. That can get disorienting.

I like the cooler idea, too. I thought about packing an icepack or two, haven't gotten around to trying it yet.
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>>2861290
>It's not easy lacking depth perception
my hiking ends up doing a lot of stumbling through thickets of brush and having to climb up and around boulders at the edge of cliffs so that would be much no fun without binocular vision
>to the point where I suffer from major double vision where one eye is clear and sharp and the other is, well, not. That can get disorienting.
have you seen an eye doctor about that? maybe they can do something
cooler is life
ok i booked my first trip of the year! im taking it easy, no "real" hikes yet probably
but there's a local winter festival I want to visit
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>>2861298
>have you seen an eye doctor about that?
I've been under coordinated care from two specialists operating out of a university for about four years now. My case is very complicated and not typical at all. It's a long story.
Hope you make it to the winter festival; we don't really have those here. Just drunk people on snowmobiles really. And ice fishing
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>>2859871
My dad only has one eye, and he is a major outdoors man and a great shot with a gun. Still gets out there at 80. He lost his eye as a kid and had a lot of time to adjust, but my point is with time I hope your able to adjust and do the things you love
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>>2861329
winter festival is in march but i did make it out for the feb open house they have and that was nice even if my ankle was too fucked to actually hike

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Post your pets and anything animal related doing /out/ shit. Interesting stories are appreciated as well. Bonus points for doggies.
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>>2862039
My hiking buddy before he tore an ACL. He's still recovering from double ACL surgery back in October, longest fucking recovery time.
Years of traipsing through the woods, no issues; then one day playing fetch he stepped on a piece of plywood, and bam.
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>>2862086
Ouch, hope he's doing better
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>>2862101
Thanks anon, yeah he's doing a bit better. it's been 16 weeks, and he's finally started to use his right leg a bit. it's weird though; it was his left that was initially completely torn, and why we brought him in for surgery -- whereas the right was a partial tear. (we opted to just take care of both them in one fell swoop, as he'd just be back for another surgery within a year or two anyways)
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Carmel California
My dogs neither like the water but boy do they love that cold air and sand. This particular morning we ventured to the beach front in pure darkness, met several other owners with that same feeling.
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General thread for freediving and/or spearfishing, since I don't see one mentioning either.

My personal questions:
I've been thinking about taking a certification course so I can learn to do these things correctly and safely. I'm probably happy just doing the diving, but spearfishing seems like an easy and practical extension. I only casually skindive and rod-and-reel fish at the moment. Does anyone have experience taking such a course?
I know I'll need my own gear early on, but each instructor I can find seems to have their own equipment shops, so I imagine they wouldn't be impartial about the quality of other gear on the market. I live on the Pacific coast of the US, so I see that a 7 mm open cell wetsuit is strongly recommended. What good/bad features should I look out for on wetsuits and other equipment? For non-competitive diving, carbon fiber fins are almost certainly not worth the price, right?
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>>2857141
Respect!
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>>2857141
i'll give you all the bottom time you need anon :3
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>>2857362
reject.
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>>2801721
diluted shampoo
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>>2856872
Yes. Shark el shiek is better. Dab is full of tourists. Also there is a new government fee to enter the blue hole.

>>2857141
Best way to add bottom time is hangs. I learned a great technique for this from Tory George, when he lived at my place during COVID. If your PB is 70ft (21m) then you go to 75% of that (ie 50ft or 14m) and hang for 30seconds before ascended. If thats easy, then add 10 seconds. Do this till you reach a hang of 1:30, before ascending. Then you should be ready to go deeper.

Remember the unwritten freediving rule: After you reach 100ft, you have to switch to meters.

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How do you go about cooking /out/? What's the minimal gear needed to cook something you can call complex? What's the most complex dish you've prepared?
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>>2860525
>What's the minimal gear needed to cook something you can call complex?
a pot and a frying pan. I used to use take the full Trangia 27 kit on trips all the time.

>What's the most complex dish you've prepared?
I can cook anything part from baked goods. having 2 pots or a frypan and pot is good as you can cook a side dish and a main, and not some one pot slopa.
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>Pack can of spam
>Start fire
>Set can of spam on fire
>Jerk off
>Take shit
>Jerk off
>Spam now done
>Grab spork
>Eat spam out of can
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>>2860525
abaolute peak comfy camping in this game
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>>2860525
i like using small, disposable aluminum baking trays
dirt cheap, light, and you can even fold them
aluminum foil too
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>>2860525
I don't care much about cooking outdoors. I use some beer can stove for coffee, herbal teas or dehydrated food, and may take a mini barbecue grid if campfires are possible/allowed. Few sipces in limited amounts.

Last automn while hiking we found many edible boletus mushrooms and chestnuts, most complex dish was probably grilled chicken sandwich with grilled mushrooms tossed with garlic and olive oil.

I'm from Europe, there is probably some kind of restaurant or grocery shop 10km away. I also rely on picking berries, frouts, crops or edible plants in my path. I will try greek horta style green salads next may.

Pic related is sea fennel and it's delicious.

F

>Luke Drylawn , known for his youtube survival channel "Outdoor Boys", found dead aged 42 in his Salt Lake Springs home. His family has asked for privacy at this time.

>https://outdoorsurvivalist.ng/news/2926/utah-youtuber-found-dead.aspx

;_;
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>>2860630
Psychopath.
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>>2860719
stop shilling your poser ass channel here and kys luke, i'm a better outdoorsman than you
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>>2859944
>Drylawn
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>>2859952
It's the TLD for Nigeria
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>>2860630
You suck, outdoors boys was great. Thankfully this is fake bullshit.

>RINJANI MOUNTAIN AREA, WEST NUSA TENGGARA, INDONESIA – JUNE, 2025 Hiking trip ended tragically for 26-year-old Brazilian tourist Juliana Marins. On June 21, she set out on the “Cemara Tunggal” trail with five other people. Likely due to fatigue and the slippery terrain, she lost her balance and fell approximately 500–650 feet (150–200 meters) down a steep, rocky slope. She survived the fall but landed in an area her companions couldn’t reach. They had to contact the national park authorities to launch a rescue operation.Rescue efforts began immediately after the alert, but the search was hampered by poor weather conditions, thick fog, and extremely rugged terrain. She was eventually found on June 24 at the bottom of a ravine, another 1,600 feet (500 meters) below. Sadly, nature was unforgiving – she was found dead. It’s believed she tried to find help on her own after waiting for some time but fell from another slope, this time fatally.
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>>2858653
yeah
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>>2862100
assuming you have oxygen and life support to last the entire journey, Mars is like 40% the gravity of Earth so it might not be as exhausting.
>>2861087
Vesta is like 3% Earth's gravity. You could make it up the crater in like a few jumps. Not really impressive.
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>>2858653
>Sadly, nature was unforgiving
Sadly? Nigga its always been like that. Grow up and accept it. We are fragile animals that can die from literally anything.
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>>2858803
Talk to real people outside more, chud anon. It will make you less miserable.
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>>2862100
26km of basically zero incline and very low gravity. Like the other anon said, you could probably jump your way to the top


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