Any one have any experience doing this job? What nonsense came with the position? Should I do it?
>>2843345I did helitack in Canada. Best job ever, great people, good summer money. Fought fires around Canada and down in Montana. Was our crew's tree faller towards the end, loved running the saw. Initial attack is so based, I worked hundreds of fires in just a few years.
>>2843345I was in fire from 2012 to 2021 including 8 years on a R6 IHC. It’s great when you’re a young guy. It’s definitely a lot of work and requires some extreme endurance and physical fitness - especially if you want to be on a type 1 module. I was usually middle of the pack in terms of fitness but I could still run a mile and a half in 9-930 minutes. When I started in fire I was on an engine and desu I have really fond memories of that experience - maybe even more so than being on the hotshot crew. It was a very chill environment and I don’t think I got more than 500 hours of OT in either year when I was on the engine. Obviously that meant I was poor and so I ended up working in timber during the winter instead of getting laid off. When I went to the hotshot crew, it was completely different; I don’t think I ever got less than 1200 hours of OT. But that meant I felt comfortable enough to get laid off and I ended up traveling a lot which was an awesome experience. But working that much burned me out and 2021 was a brutal year for me and I ended up quitting fire altogether. If I could do it again I probably would have gone back to the engines or rappelled, something that allowed more of a work life balance.
>>2843345Go for it. You'll see new places, make great friends, learn valuable lessons and be set financially in the winter months to do whatever you feel.Been in it since 2019 and will keep at it for another 2-3 years 'til I move on. USFS. Engines & Helitack.Apply for the feds on USAjobs.gov don't bother with private contractors or state agencies. Do a couple summers on an engine or Type 2 handcrew and move onto a Type 1 handcrew or helitack if aviation appeals to you.>>28433872nd what this guy said. Not a viable long-term career but you won't regret doing it in your 20's if you aren't burdened with any of those outside commitments. It'll set you up to springboard into and succeed wherever life takes you next.
>>2843387>>2844042DOD fire is the way to go
>>2843345>Should I do it?No. The Mexicans who mow my lawn get paid more for less work.
Just had a tpwd game warden roll up on me and search everything outside of my cab and then try to insinuate I was a drug addict because I had a vape pen. He was probably 25. Look I never voted for Trump and I think some of his ideas are good. But why are Texas game wardens rolling up on niggers?
>>2846616Maybe bro wanted a hit, greedy. >get dabbed on>oh no I got dabbed on >no actually I dabbed on him!>still got dabbed onCope n seethe. You will not see the white monster fountains of Agartha.
>>2846629>>get dabbed on>>oh no I got dabbed on >>no actually I dabbed on him!>>still got dabbed onI fucking love zoomers because their dads didn't beat them enough
>>2846637>He lethargically typed, puffing on his vape
>>2846616> I told that fascist pigDon’t cut yourself on all the edge.
>>2846616>getting a power-rush from telling ol Green Jeans to fuck off This is the single most pathetic post I have read in a very long time.
Hey /out/, what should I do if I get stung by a scorpion while camping? I’m often far from medical help, and they won’t sell me antivenom, i already asked a lot of places.I remember hearing about a plant that works against scorpion venom about 15 years ago, but I can’t remember the name. Does anyone know about this or have alternativetreatments?
>>2846272You'll only ever see them at night really. One time I left my boots outside and got stung in the early morning by a smaller Pic rel. Pain lasts a few hours, then leaves a novicaine numb for a week. Walk it off. Best practice is black light to find at night and bug spray
>>2846272Remember that deaths or serious injury from these kind of things are largely limited to the elderly or kids or already sick. A healthy adult will do fine, or at least the odds arent much different than other freak accident odds people accept while out like lightning or trees falling. Just check for them in and around your shit.To answer the medical question, for an /out/ trip all you can really do is bring sting relief cream/wipes to lessen the pain of a possible sting. Or pay for a gps device to have an sos at all times.
>>2846272>what should I do if I get stung by a scorpionPoison's protein-- hot as the hottest bath you could tolerate water over the affected area. Same thing as stingrays. And black light thing per >>2846295
>>2846274Like the other anon said, it's only life threatening if you're a little kid, super old, or weak. The antivenom wasn't commonly available until recently. My wife got stung by one and her doctor basically told her to just suffer. She kept the scorpion as a pet for a while.
>>2846295You should always shake out your shoes or boots in the morning before putting them on. My taught me that at a young age and I remember my first back packing trip I shake out my boots and this big ass black spider fell out the damn thing.
Do you bushcraft when you're /out/?
>>2846366((((Nose))))
>>2846445NTA but what's your point then? Are you just stating a truthism because you have nothing better to do with your time or are you attempting to contribute something useful to the conversation?
>>2846437>>2846441>be some asshole YouTuber I used to watch>make a video showing how to build a small cabin out of plastic wrap>comments rightfully point out how wasteful it is and how all that plastic is going to end up in the forest or in the dump>butthurt youtuber responds: "But you all use plastic in your day to day lives, so how can you criticize me! For we are the same!"This is how you know someone has a low IQ.
>>2846366yup but veeeeery simple using stone tools. i want to try and build a sweet track next in the marsh
>>2846441No way, I watched all the Garand Thumb videos about how not to get tracked.
Post cool petroglyphs from your area. i'll start.theres cup marks pecked into the boulders all over the beach here, most were underwater today and even these two i had to wade into waist deep 10 degree water (naked no less..) to get the photo
>>2846586Anon, are you really trying to pass off erosion as petroglyphs?
>>2846592cupules are a well known cultural artifact in archaeology. you probably have some in your area and you didnt even realize it!>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_cupule
>>2846594>Even the identification of cupules remains tenuous: archaeologists have encountered difficulties in distinguishing cupules from other features, such as potholes, mortars, querns, metates, piedras tacitas [es], and small solution pans.
Asking for a friend
>>2846630just about everything is probably easier and more comfortable. only problem is it's also easier for picrel to happen to you
>>2846630If you're distance hiking, your stride wont be as efficient.
>>2846630hehe cute, i wish i had a midget girlfriend so i could carry her on my back on hikes
Do you partake, anon? It's the best way to experience nature
>>2845597Just dry them on newspaper like you dry nutts you pick yourself
>>2845597A dehydrator is like $40 max - the quicker you dry them, the less potency you lose. Store them in mason jars. Vacuum seal the jars if you can. >>2845616>boiling psilocin o shit nibba what are you doin
>>2845885Not that anon, but I have made shroom tea many times with no loss of potency. In fact, I reckon it kicks in even faster and harder.
I've been on a few liberty cap forages this year already, want to try get another in within the next couple of weeks if possible.Can share some photos if there's any interest.
I can't tell the difference between the ones that are supposed to make me see shit, and the ones that have the Ultra Cyanide Poison Max 9000 which gives you Class-A ass cancer and kills you in mere minutes.Yes, I've seen some of the books that explain the differences. No, the differences are not big enough between species for an autist like myself to reliably tell between them, I don't trust myself around these mushrooms.I wish marijuana just grew everywhere naturally instead.
ITT guys who made it. Men who didn't die of exposure or hunger, men who survived
>>2841902not my fault they fought for the wrong side in WWII.
OH YEAH
>>2846062wat
>>2843555gay
>>2842231Jesus lmao
What is the /out/ consensus on this debate?
>>2832102Yes unironically
>>2832080Idk I gotta say this doesn’t line up with my felt experience. There’s been so many different instances I can remember of me almost rolling my ankles while hiking or out and about with either good boots or hiking boots and it being prevented, while with low top shoes I just fuck my shit up
>>2842487>trail runners can be used in that without much issue too, as long as the angle isn't too steep and you step correctly.Ladies and Gentleman, here is a very fine example of what the kids call Cope. Its making excuses and qualifiers to justify their inferior opinion. I would like to thank this anon for setting such a fine example.
>>2842766How do you make them last so long? I run out of one of these generic salomons every year and use em until they have a hole or the foam inside is so ripped apart its unwearable.
>>2846587idk, they just seem to lastyeah, outsole in heel area is getting thin, but all things considered - they still hold wellwhen buying I just buy leather (even suede like this holds better to abrasion and campfire sparks, than synthetic)and thicker rubber toe "guard" is a must for me since sometimes I don't lift my feet high enough/scrape them on rocks, so in the past I was ripping toe area too quickly - rubber "guard" solved thisother than that - I just wash them once few months or after getting drenched in mud completely (having dry sand rubbing in crevices for too long isn't good for shoes), apply some DWR and replace insoles every ~2 years
>b-b-but there's no fall colors out westIs there a bigger east coastlet cope?
>>2845789I live in the West and FUD it endlessly on /out/. We're already full, let the eastcoplets brag and get more diversity moving into their towns.
>>2845789Those colours are to Eastern colours as Eastern mountains are to the rockies. Sure, they exist, and they're nice, but comparing them is pure cope.
>>2845850Another thing we have that the west doesn't is canoe country. All of your /out/ activities involve climbing mountains or trudging through desert. You can't just throw all your gear in a canoe and get lost in an endless maze of lakes and rivers the way we can (at least here in Ontario).
>>2845789>>2845838>>2845839>>2845840>>2845841>>2845842>>2846544>>2846546You're not helping your case.
>>2846562>the west doesn't is canoe country.its true we dont have glacial till lakes/babe's footprints like ON or Boundary waters but we do have lots of canoeing
So I have been looking for hiking boots that double as everyday leather boots too. Been looking at the jim green collection. And I am torn between a razorback, a normal AR8 and a tyre wedge AR8.> The normal AR8 are nice, with a good sole, but they are a bit chunky > The tyre wedge AR8 are lighter, but I am unsure if the sole is good for hiking> The razorback is probably the best one for hiking, but it looks perhaps too "outdorsy"Ignore prices btw
Irish Setter Wingshooters are my current boot. I like em.
>>2846285>Someone wore one of those for the entire Pacific Crest Trail without resoling them.That's because he was travelling by magic carpet, don't let these sneaky arabs trick you.
>>2846285Thing is, i live in Scandinavian. Having those mountain sandals will only work in the summer.What about Jim Greens barefoot shoes?
>>2846365I would love if jim green did a barefoot shoe with a hard rubber, but for whatever reason they've chosen blown rubber for all of their ranger boots including the barefoot variants.I'll also add that if you're wanting to change your stride to ball first instead of heel first, welted shoes/boot don't work with it. I think it's the way the heel juts back or the lack of flexibility that makes it harder to change your stride.Because of both these factors, forcing a heel strike with each step, is likely what led Jim Green to using such a soft rubber for these.I mean if you really want to, you could wear the sole down and then have a cobbler replace the outsole with something from vibram like the kletter.For barefoot shoes, I like the Belleville shoes like I mentioned. The vivobarefoot Tracker/Forest Esc is also really good. Sadly their resole service is only good for the UK though. I don't recommend most Vivobarefoot but the tracker/forest esc are the best barefoot shoes for outdoors bar none.If you have dry snow in Norway, these may also work well for you.https://mukluks.com/products/camuks-extreme-mensThey use a natural rubber so avoid stepping in oil. It's meant for snow use primarily but could be a long lasting boot with great breathability and insulation.You have alfa in your country. I have used the M77 in the past and it works decent, albeit I prefer the Estonian made versions now since Alfa outsources theirs to Romania. I find Sievi makes great products in Finland. I used the soft solid xl in the past. I wish it had a hard rubber bottom, and they sell versions with it. They'll be a bit heavier.
>>2846256This.I just use some cheap ass Colombia or Ozark trail, trail sandals. If I dive innawoods I just wear my old timberland hiking boots.
Hunting season is upon the northern hemisphere>what are you hunting this year?>any changes in gear?>any interesting stories from last year?
>>2846312>>2846315Might be overthinking the clothing party yeah. Duck pants would probably be better and quieter than most other pants anyway. Maybe I should just go all out and get a red wool flannel to complete the look. I figure if I have good base and insulating layers, then the whole thing together should be good enough
>>2846124I bought a heated vest off Amazon a few years ago and it has been been the biggest game changer of my hunting career. The heated vest with down pants under my brush pants and a used woolrich down hunting jacket. I look like an orange michallen man but God damn am I warm.> Wool base layers and socks are a good investment too> And just about any surplus wool sweater you can find cheap
My third year hunting, will be my first year field dressing my own elk. Any tips?
Shot uh skwerl
>>2846558Hell yeah! Nice fox squirrel. I shot 1 of the regular grey ones for the first time, and it tasted pretty good!
Didn't know if this was fit for /trv/ or here, anywaysIraqi photographer - soon to be backpacking my ass all the way throughout Central Asia alone, India, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Tajikistan, will probably be camping in the wilderness a lot to get new pictures, the target is somehow getting to Tibet or the Sufi villages in the north of India at some point....I need help with:1. What kind of solar-powered battery pack do I buy? Something portable, I need it to power a small electric stove for boiling water, and a charger for a phone and DSLR, nothing more I think, let's try to stick under 500$? The fewer bucks I spend the better2. I am thinking of buying a Samsung phone with a stylus for note-taking, it'd save me having to bring paper and run out of it, and I'll probably have a spare Chinese cheap stylus just in case I lose the original: what mirrorless bands do I look out for on the phone? What regional model should I buy so I don't get stranded like a dumbass when I try to phone somebody for help?
>>2846449>An Iraqi is posting on 4chanFunny to see. 1. In general you won't find a great solar charger that is going to net you a ton of power . Your best bet is to get a nice as big as possible battery pack and a solar charger. Don't use an electric stove, they are inefficient and it's easier to carry alcohol or equivalent fuel. You have a HUGE power demand in what you are asking for so make sure to conserve power2. For phones you'll need to figure out which bands those regions use, which you can find out on GSM arena. I'm not sure how much internet you can actually get out there so you may wish to look into sat comm internet if it;s that necessary. If cell coverage is decent just look for a data plan. Also I remember watching my country invade yours as a youngling. Pretty wild to be shitposting with you now.
>>2846468>>2846468>An Iraqi is posting on 4chan>Funny to see.Nothing surprising there, 4chan spans the world! There's a lot of us Iraqis on /bant/ and /int/, mostly refugees from the Great Internet Shutdown of 2016 when the government decided the internet was too ISIS-y for their taste and just killed half the social media platforms for half a year (they'd go on to repeat this mistake again in 2018 with the protests)Some are original /jp/ posters from back when (2012 and descending)As a rule of thumb though, you can find a lot more Iraqis on niche altchans than 4chan itself, it's easy to find Iraqis on one of the 1000 Touhou-themed imageboards from my personal experience.Anyways, onto what's important>In general you won't find a great solar charger that is going to net you a ton of powerI see, do you have any suggestions on what I'd want to buy specifically? I can't find my ass from my head trying to figure out which brands are trustworthyComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2846469>Stove recsSo if you were in the West jetboil or equivalent stove brand (firemaple is Chinar and makes decent clones). I don't know how easy it is to get gas cans near you, but I'd imagine it's not great. Alcohol stoves are ancient tech, you can get them for $20. Do a little research to figure which you like, they're all about the same desu. You might want to look into solid fuel stoves, they are a bit easier to carry and you might have better luck in your area. You can also look at using kerosene/gas compatible stoves as every place you're going should have gasoline>Solar vs fuelI mean yeah it will be "cheaper", but do a lil googling to see the power you can get from solar. Unless you're carrying a person sized panel you're going to be waiting hours to get very little. Alcohol or stove fuel should cost you pocket change, even in remote areasFor your phone I suspect you can check forums of those countries or maybe pay for a premium sat phone. I would tell you if you're hoboing be careful, a hobo with gadgets is a target so make sure you have a shaggy bag and clothes. Good luck bud I want you posting while you travel
>>2846536>Unless you're carrying a person sized panelI'm honestly up to carrying something the size of a human torso, problem is how I'd attach it to my back....>Alcohol or stove fuel should cost you pocket change, even in remote areasI am now more convinced, to be honest, gas stove seems to be the way to go >Good luck bud I want you posting while you travelAye, I am slated for 2027, I will have to start grinding from now so I could afford everything off my third world budget, turns out boots that can handle a subcontinental exodus cost a lot more than any other pair of bootsI will make a Tumblr blog, probably
Are there any hardcore /out/tards who have spent time camping in the global south or East / Central Africa?? Any Rhodesian larpers or French military guys on here have any commentary or resources? It doesn't seem like there is a ton of information outside the stuff in the savannah but I'm not sure how applicable that is to the area I'm going. I'll be in Jinja near the Nile. I have anti malaria medication. I'm coming from the Midwest USA and obviously can't bring my guns, blades, or anything other basics like water purifying tablets and shit like a flint and steel / a lighter. I'll be there for 3 nights with no accomodations other than access to a park. Other than don't get eaten by a crocodiles, anyone have any pointers?
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>>2843077DROP DA BOMB MAN
Tbh, fuck niggers and fuck the lazy inept mods on this board.
>>2843077just find a local to help you anon, everybody in uganda knows kung fu
>>2843077>going unarmed into the bush where big game poachers and actual fucking cannibals are lurking.I would say youre not the sharpest knife in the drawer but at this point I think youre just a spoon.
You now remember geocaching
>>2846448I never forget a good shit.
>>2846448I don't qrd
>>2846517As this anon states>>2846457 we used to poop in them. it was our greatest moment here on /out/we called it geopooping
We even used to have a geopooper patch
