What is the /out/ consensus on this debate?
>>2832748>Syria has settled downLoooooool! Ok Hilary
>>>>2832102obviously not a 100% guarantee, but yes trail runners are overwhelmingly worn by day trippers driving in from more built up areas.
>>2832000>checkedE-stone-ia
>>2832000I fucking hate talus fields. Even in mountaineering boots they suck ass to walk through.
>>2831651For me ->mountains = bootscountryside = sneakers
I'm making a boat out of an old aspen tree trunk, any tips or something. For example I'm not really sure about water proofing. Is it really that important if i want to only use the boat for one week. I already tried it in water and it kinda worked, but the water line was too high
Also many of them had a dugout bottom with planks added on sides. Some resembled classic vessel shapes, only they had a hollowed log instead of a solid keel.
>>2831083???its very common here in swedeni have two aspen trees that are like 35m in height and probably 2 meters in circumference which nets about 60cm widththeyre like 60-80 years old or something
I would make a Logomaran. (it's a big image you'll have to zoom in to read)
>>2830810Did you throw it in the river to see how it wants to ride before carving?Options for finishing from where you are>coals or hot rocks to burn deeper>fill it with boiling water and bend the gunwales outward>motor mount on stern
Looks cool, anon. What was the process? I'd also like to try this
Title. Fiction or Non. Picrel fucked me up, I knew about the cannibalism but that was the least of it. Looking for more recs, /out/ related preferered but whatever you like or are currently reading is cool too.
I'm normally a slow reader but I ploughed through all these
>>2832858>A Walk In The WoodsThat's the one where the guy hikes the AT, right? I just saw it at my local used bookstore yesterday and almost picked it up.
>>2832861YerpI read it when I was a jit and didn't have the means to camping, it scratched the itch pretty well
>>2832869Cool, I might go back and pick it up. Thanks, fren.
>The Reign of Wolf 21Can't recommend this book enough. I love wolves, but even if you don't, you shouldn't skip the joy of this superb account of Yellowstone's Druid pack. Further /out/ /lit/ suggestions:>The Snow Leopard by Peter Matthiesen>No Way Down: Life and Death on K2
I want to talk about carrying shelter and water on a bicycle and starting with a plan, not a dream.Stopped being neet after rewatching KLK and realizing I wasted my youth/20s. That’s fine, life isn’t over. Bought a road/gravel bike, got some biking sites and chatgpt for route suggestions, it’s time. Gonna see everything lower 48 state on my own power. I could never do this as a poor min wage wagie saving up for a cagie, but I can just do it now. So I did actually, I’m two or so counties over from where I started.Now wot? Have any other anons lived the drifter life? How do I find good stealthcamp spots so cops don’t burn my tent and retard tweakers dont do me like kevin nash in the summer of 92?
>>2820483updates?
>>2832727>luckyLuck is one thing but you need skill, to have an eye for such thingsAlso nobody cares that you're a hobo, you must carry yourself respectfully and communicate as such as well. If you're expecting to be a screaming psycho and get things, get a new brain, a hobo is not a screaming psycho, that is a mental patient that America is neglecting. That is not a person looking for freedom. They need help. A hobo is much much different. Do NOT let the world mix these two groups in your mind. As for long stretches, you need to be in very good shape. You are essentially a hunter gatherer and ought to behave as such. You need a lot of strength and endurance. In Utah/Nevada you can run into 300+ mile areas with no resources, if you can't ride 100 miles per day with a weeks worth of supplies after having studied the area intently, you should not attempt. Study maps. Study weather. You need to be informed on what you're doing. There are professional ways to be a hobo. >tfw applying to jobs 500 miles away a month in advance>currently doing landscaping in the desert, out working fucking everybody and ride my bike 10 miles there and 10 miles back every day>try to choose spots within 5 miles of national forest/BLM land and planet fitness and grocery store Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2832727also>good gearyou little pussywalmart provides all, son if you cant do it in shitty blue jeans thats a problem of the soul
>>2828845You can create anything from anything, you're truly amazing. I wish you can find a good path in your journey.
>>2832863appreciate it anon <3 if anyone has any ideas for essential bikepacking shit that's typically pretty expensive i'd be happy to attempt a budget version with step by steps
Is "off-grid" living an illusion? How would you do it?
>>2827628There was no evidence whatsoever that any of that happened. In fact they couldn't find any crimes committed whatsoever.>>2827713No they didn't the feds used flammables when dispersing the cs gas.
>>2827695You can probably run electric off that oil too.
>>2828782Oy vey, anon-yim! You're not spreading lies, are you?
>>2827569Most people don't go fully wild, because it is challenging. I am wanting to, but I'm taking it slow, learning what I can.The key is health and fitness, making sure you have a high amount of calories, and being strong enough to endure anything that passes you by.I think you could do something like ForestAnon initially, buy food from stores and make a bunch of staches, then slowly learn preserving and hunting and foraging, until you have a bunch of staches of natural food. It might be better to travel between locations so you don't exhaust local food supply, keeps you fresh mentally, and you can always stop into buy food when you fuck up.My plan is I'm saving up 20000 dollars, then I'm going to hike the American Trail systems, and try my best to forage and hunt and fish for most of my food. The cash will give me a safety net, and with enough education and perseverance I might eventually develop something sustainable.
>>2827575>What does that even fucking mean?It's pretty clear
PSA careful when walking around in the underbrush. i stepped on a fallen wasp's nest while bushwacking yesterday and as expected they were not happy with the intrusion..
>>2830203I'd never troon out!
>>2830171>I've been totally excluded from society for being gayno, you've been excluded because you have glaring personality issues you've used your sexuality to avoid reflecting on and making really changes.being gay doesn't mean you have to be a massive faggot.
>>2830277this anon is right. im a huge homo who sucks dick and gets ass fucked but people dont care because i dont act like a faggot outside the bedroom. people dont actually have a problem with faggots as long as them being faggots is not their entire personality. same way with people of color. nobody cares youre a nigger or some other mystery meat vermin as long as you dont make it your personality.
>>2830088The last time I went full pussy mode was when I got stung on the finger by a yellowjacket. Just a reminder your finger has a limited amount of skin and can only swell so much before it reaches its maximum. So I drive into this little podunk east Texas town looking for asprin and beer. And I stumbled upon, I kid you not, the prettiest 40 year old woman I've probably ever met. And I'm crying like a bitch from a wasp sting. And she suggests I also buy some Benadryl. A fucking supermodel 40 year old store clerk that also understands basic first aid. I've never been back to that store because I'm sure I hallucinated her.
>>2830088I did a couple foot leap over a garden divider and some stuff I didn't want to trample. I instantly sunk down to my ankles. Turns out I had jumped onto a nest of yellow jackets. They instantly crawled into my shoes and up my pant legs and went to town on me. I don't think I ever ran that fast before. When I made it inside and took of my pants and shoes they were crawling out of them mostly injured.
This has to be the most subhuman behavior in the hiking community. It's orders of magnitude worse than boombox hikers although I'm sure there's some overlap there.I've been hiking in this one park for over ten years and the last 2 weeks I've seen an unprecedented amount of trash someone else left behind. Water bottles, cigarette butts, food wrappers etc. I took it upon myself to clean up what I could (yes I did it for free) and filled up 2 plastic bags worth of trash both last Friday and today. This is a 5.5 mile loop that I'm used to seeing maybe 1 or 2 bottles on. I usually assume it was dropped by accident and take it with me without thinking much of it.There are trash and recycling bins at the fucking trailhead. Some people apparently just can't be fucked to carry their trash for 2 hours. It's not just an eyesore it's terrible for the ecosystem that surrounds the trail. I'm not sure what to do. Maybe if I talk to the park office they'll pay me money to clean up the trails.
>>2832534Set up trailcams. What you do once you have IDd your targets is up to you
>Maybe if I talk to the park office they'll pay me money to clean up the trails.they lost all their funding, that's why the trash is piling up. there probably isn't even anyone in the park office to talk to anymore.
digin,,,bushs,,heavy box stuckin bushs,,HARD swing pike to stabit@!,,,HISSSSS,,ono snek!,Hisssputter?,,thatsnot snek?,pull box out,,,Hissss!,,,,half a case of beer,one got punctured,hissss.,,,,,i dont drink,,,mostly,,,mostly.
>>2832555>common denominator.jpg
>>2832745Imagine being so gullible you believe this shit.
Post yours.
>>2831671Interesting anal canal you have.
>>2831832>Is that some skin on the inside of your palm? be a shame if something were to happen to it
Italian motorcyclist got mauled to death by mama bear in Romania bear country.This is the last photo he took.
Depends on the location. In my area, that is wilder and less human dense, they are hiding. To be fair i never seen one. I found lots of tracks, even fresh. Parked the car, went to climb a hill, returned one hour later and fresh paws near car. They avoid contact with us because they are used to know we kill them and have fear. Most people don't care of laws and they shoot them anyway. Just send someone from SRI then and now to kill some near the road and they will learn not to make contact with humans.
>>2831861Romania has 12 000 counted bears
>>2828401>not muh predator GENOCIDENow a-days yes poaching is fucked, but bears would literally drag someone away from your campsite and into the woods randomly because they had 0 really fear of humans.
>>2827599>motorcyclist>italian>boomerbased bear making the world a little bit better
>>2827708I did a small hike in the poland/ukraine border last may and my gf and I got face to face with a wolf.
What's some good off the beaten trail hiking spots in the south? Ideally i'd like to avoid the Great Smoky Mountains just due to summer tourists.
>>2831308Lots of people and parking was tough, but I would definitely go again.
The valley and ridge part of the Appalachians is more scenic than the Appalachian plateau. The ridge north of LaFollette TN and the ridge southeast of Johnson City TN are two I've been hiked on. Look for forested ridges with public land or hiking trails. Don't go to the Cumberland Gap, it's crowded and underwhelming.
>>2832673The plateau is much nicer and I have hundreds of spots that prove you wrong.
>>2832806>>2832673What constitutes the plateau vs the valley and ridge?
>>2832822uplifted ancient ocean bed (sedimentary) cut into by water alone vs folded (imagine putting your hands on a tablecloth and pushing them towards one another) metamorphic rock also ridge and valley areas tend to have broader - longitudinally oriented valleys - whereas plateau has "hollers" i.e. very little truly flat land - usually around riverbeds - mostly up and down slot canyons - tho it varies between high plateau and low plateau ridge and valley tends to have higher elevation and also SUCKS for hiking because it tends to be really fucking rocky and hard on your feet - plateau is softer groundsmokies are ridge and valley big south fork/red river gorge/new river gorge is plateau, pittsburgh and cincinnati are both on the plateau knoxville, chattanooga, and birmingham al are ridge and valley (bordering the plateau)the plateau is harder to traverse (no valleys you can go through) so its less densely settled - but the hiking is SWEET
Please for the love of God tell me there’s a chink shit alternative or someplace that sells these at cheaper prices. Or better yet, an alternative for stealth camping
>>2832498I bought one very similiar to these, about to try it out actually. Will reply to this post in a few days to give my review.
>>2832551Nobody said anything about bug protection. Even if that's what they need, if you set a tarp up so it's enclosed you'll have plenty of bug protection. The other option is to get a mesh to set up underneath the tarp like ultralight campers use.
>>2832799Maybe try reading the post again. The anon maybe made a typo, but that's no excuse for poor reading comprehension.>>2832338>"No big (sic) protection"
>>2832825I read the same post you did and my beliefs and posts remain the same. There's plenty of videos on YouTube on how to set up an enclosed tarp tent so no bugs will get in.
>>2832828>trust me bro, I saw it on YouTube
Post your hot take or sperg about someone else's.Cotton linen silk and tropical wool are superior to synthetics and synthetic blends any situation where its too warm to go hypothermic if you got wet. Especially in arid climates. "Cotton kills" is true but overblown and this leads to a lot of unnecessarily miserable hikers in the summer. Sweating less and not having your sweat feel gross and clammy against your skin is better than any benefit from drying times when being wet is a non-issue. If you dislike hiking in the summer try natural materials.
>>2832741>Implying browns go outdoors
>>2832761Mutts do. Their white sides bring them outdoors where their competing mud side suffer and whine, much like their incompatible metabolisms that carpet them with cystic acne.
>>2825404The food and water you carry does have weight and only larpcel faglight cucks trying to brag about how little their cheap chinese cling wrap gear weighs have a problem with talking about it.
>>2832723why do you faggots only know 2 different materials, go wear some thin wool
>>2832801You’ve never camped more than a few days, and only in fair weather. You’re fat. You’ve never backpacked more than a few miles, and even then your focus was on camping rather than hiking. You don’t even know the difference between camping and hiking. Your feet are softer than the inside of a vagina. You think pemmican and whole potatoes are a good choice for hiking food. You think pack weight isn’t important. You have no idea what you’re doing.
Urbex thread go Looking for recs for good durable gloves while urbex'ing Post local recs for areas you've explored
The lack of stalker and urbex threads makes me sad
>pictures of trash in a dump
>>2832414CopeIt’s a lot better than the dime a dozen zoomers just trespassing as “urbexing”
>>2828441>too stupid to figure out how gloves work>hey guys! post your favorite local places to commit a crime!
I picked up this tent complete and like new for $10.00 What should I expect?
>>2831951Very nice campsite. I'm only planning on using during the summer.
>>2831538what are you people doing inside of your tents that you are requiring extra room?
>>2832240This. All my single person tents have engouh room. The only one that I wished had more room is my MSR Flexlite?
>>2831537Never owned one but I bummed one off a buddy for an entire summer once when they were still selling these. It's only an OK tent imo. It's got way too many guylines and setup is unintuitive. It can be difficult to get a good pitch out in the field as compared to a nice flat area in your backyard or a park. It also suffers majorly from condensation and has poor ventilation when the doors are closed. Pros: it's lightweight, relatively spacious when pitched correctly, and you got it for $10. For that price it's an excellent tent. Use it until you can save for a better one. Spend time fucking around with staking it up now so you don't have to figure it out innawoods when you're dehydrated, hungry and elevation sick.
>>2832240Cuddling my wife
I have already explored the Sugondese caveWhere else in Europe can I go spelunking?Tight squeezes and all
>>2830651>australian hands typed these wordsThere isn't much animal life in these deeped caves anyway.
>>2830729i think youd be surprised. im australian and i have a few spider stories that always makes people uncomfortablethe best one was fairly recently. i ride a motorcycle and keep my helmet attached to it when im doing whatever at my destination. it was dark and a spider crawled into my helmet and i didnt notice it. i put it on and started driving home, i was about halfway and i was speeding. the spider crawled across my eyes while i was taking a turn, i had to stop and get it out. anyway, i didnt panic and my heartrate only increased a small amounti cant imagine australian hands writing that post just because most australians dont care about spiders and the ones that do didnt click on a caving thread
>>2831056Fuck that
>>2830252>Sugondese cave*ahem*What's the Sugondese cave?
>>2832754kek
