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I am coming up with a lil thru hike idea. Hike what would start out to be a lore accurate path of the Fallout New Vegas courier from california to the building the lucky 38 is based off of in Vegas, mostly following the lore accurate path, but hitting a few side locations. It might end up being more of a route than a trail, but this is the general route I had in mind. Hike from the "Mojave Outpost" (Mountain Pass) up through primm and then to Goodsprings, then east down to Nipton, over to Searchlight, and then north hitting a few notable irl equivilent locations for the Nelson the ghost town, Helios One, Novac, and then go through Boulder City to Hoover Dam and then over into Vegas.

I have thru hiked a few times before, but not in the desert. I am aware water is a significant consideration here. Luckily many of the locations/towns are within a days walk of each other at my pace, although some places appear to have gaps where natural water or civilization/faucets would be.

What would you consider changing about the route, or anything your would specifically add? I am aware there is a lot of public land, but also a significant amount of private land like on the solar farms and military bases.
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>>2852611
just bring two canteens and a water bladder
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>>2852381
>also, don't you start in goodsprings, go to primm, then head east?
yeah, i don't know what OP is doing

the more accurate route would be
>goodsprings>jean>primm>nipton>searchlight>solar array>boulder city>henderson>vegas
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>>2852615
on second thought i think he is extrapolating that the courier entered the desert through the ranger station before the whole benny thing happened.
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thats a far as fuck hike through literally nothing.
there is some cool stuff north of vegas but the area to the south is desolate desert. there is pretty much no water out there. also the area from nelson to boulder city is all private property. just drive it and go sightseeing. if you want to hike go to valley of fire or red rock

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Looking to refine survival skills in general for when I want/need to head innawoods. Any must have rw adventure books and manuals I should get?
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>>2850342
Deep Survival - Laurence Gonzales
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>>2851101
>Deep Survival
I prefer the sequel Deep Survival: tenting with Tyrone
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>>2850342
What game is this?
Looks sovlfull
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>>2852606
a bone-chilling spine-tingling atmospheric slowburn retro-aesthetic psychological horror indie game with NO jumpscares.
oneyplays played it I think
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>>2850342
In what events do you need to head innawoods?
>captcha: jwss8

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What is your opinion on folding kayaks? I live where not every fishing hole has a trail leading to it and I'm not looking to drag a full sized kayak along with fishing gear everywhere I want to go
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>>2852506
Its fine with a small soft cooler and gear if you aren't loading up super heavy. There is a lot of floor room so you can distribute the load evenly
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>>2852501
you can portage kayaks under 60lbs, or use a kayak cart. that kayak has a pretty respectable weight capacity for it's size due to the bulbous nose in the hull.
>>2852506
you can fish from recreational kayaks just fine if you're a minimalist. most of the lightweight kayaks are rec kayaks and they paddle better. sit insides are also easier to portage.
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>>2852528
A single seat Kevlar canoe will weigh half as much as a kayak (I’ve seen as light as 24 lbs), and they’re way easier to portage because of the depth of the hull. But they cost like 3x as much, and are a bit less safe to paddle in shitty conditions.
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>>2852503
Thats why i went for them. They have a really decent return policy apparently
I figured 20 uses and then a free replacement would last 2-3 years and at that price point it isnt bad at all because of the convenience
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>>2852555
as you say, you're talking $2500 minimum. only the most serious or rich people buy shit like that. you can get something like a liquidlogic saluda 11 or 12 for a fraction of the price and carry it the same way.

Hey, /out/ hunters. do any of you hunt this specific game bird?
https://www.norma-ammunition.com/en-gb/products/dedicated-hunting/centerfire-rifle/norma-jaktmatch/norma-jaktmatch-222-remington-55gr---20157210
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>>2852645
I do.
I don't really care for it myself, but my wife goes crazy for black cock and I want to see her happy <3

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Where are all the mushrooms edition?
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>>2851560
Mountain Equipment Couloir
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Good evening lads. I am going stove camping on my todd tomorrow, going to try this patch not far off a little town I know. Pic related. There's 4 options as you can see, no pine trees unfortunately but a nice thick copse of poplars by the looks of things, might make an interesting spot. I'll take some pictures and post them here if I remember.

This is how I try to camp, finding little patches where nobody will bother me not far from the town. But I need your advice, where is a nice isolated place to go within yorkshire? I want to go to kielder solo but I need more experience first.
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>>2852075
nigga
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>>2852146
How did it go?
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>>2840647
Camping in the North Pennines as often as possible. See hardly anyone in summer, in winter its empty. Bring on the storms and snow. Cross country skiing when it snows.
>>2852146
Yorkshire is massive, any particular area? Moors? Dales? all the flat lands in East Yorkshire? The weather can turn quick in the moors and dales so unless you have a bit of experience fell walking in bad weather best get that before you decide to go out overnight. I wouldnt say Kielder needed more experience than those two, just being used being in and navigating in pine plantations - pick a place you are going to go to, plan out your route on the map and stick to it.
Donna Van Senior on YouTube has a few videos camping up there and staying in the bothies there.

Is long distance countryside biking considered /out/?
If so, let's have a thread about it
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>>2852195
Use bar ends on flat handlebars I also like plain foam grips on everything because they are soft and insulate the most in cold or wet weather. Don't fall for the ergonomic crap it's going to make it worse since you shift wrist position very often naturally anyway. Plain bar ends and handlebars with foam grips will do the trick. Also the wider the handlebars the better you breathe and more hand position options. I would say I'm 70% on bar ends most of the time similarly how roadies would be mostly using hoods on drops.
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>>2852195
This specific combo. On-one Mary bars and ergon GP1 grips. I tried many bars, wider, narrower, with more and less sweep, none work as well. It was an expensive realization that I like them better than titanium bars imported from the US.
Also get a rack. If you have one, get another rack, or fork bags, or a handlebar bag. On your back is absolutely the worst place to carry cargo.
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>>2852195
Your bike seat is too high, place your hands different
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Where's my fat tyre bros? If you aren't running 29x3 and above then you aren't going /out/. Imagine not being able to ride through rivers, go off the trail, ride on sand. Loser!
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>>2852186
What was your route for A->B?

What was your method with setting up camp? Especially in populated areas?

I'm always solo and off trail. Guns not an option. My entire setup is stealth super low profile, smokeless fire and so on. I have a knife and I carry a staff with attachable spear tip which make me feel safe. I know the sounds of all the animals even screaming owls I am used to it. There are no large predators here and it isn't the sounds of animals that scare me it's just me and my imagination which works against me. My mind invents things where there are no things so I go to bed early. I should not have to go to bed early out of fear of my own imagination. I should be able to sit in the dark and be at peace with my surroundings and relax and enjoy it. I have got better at managing it but it is still there. Even if I let my night vision adapt and I creep around knowing that I am at that point the scary creepy thing in the woods at minimum there is a persistent feeling of discomfort. Does it ever truly go away? Is being alone at night days away from a dirt road just too unnatural?
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>>2852463
I never knew that.
>>2852274
Have you considered being a faggot?
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What you're describing is how you've turned yourself into the perfect stealth tracker, the perfect night hunter, all you need is a nice big knife or machete and you'd be set. You shouldn't be afraid, everything else should fear you.
You should go kill some hikers to feel better about yourself.
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>>2852383
>>2852463
>>2852490
kek
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man has wrestled with that feeling forever and will forever his own mind is what makes him man
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>>2852274
i started out feeling a little bit this way but i don't anymore. i've come to enjoy how quiet it can be at night and how nice the stars are. i think you just get used to it.

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It's been a while since I've seen a /mush/ thread! How is everyone's fall mushroom season treating them? I've been finding tons of mushrooms!! Lots of these Satan's boletes, rubroboletus eastwoodiae, popped up everywhere. Too bad they're not good to eat..
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>>2852584
My b. Tagged the wrong post. Meant this photo >>2852413
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>>2852588
Fairy fingers, also Trinity county, CA but different anon
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I think my coldest /out/ was a sleigh ride in -14°C when I was a kid. The coldest I've ever been outside for a few minutes was -22°C.
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>>2852347
that would be great
i usually wear a fur hat and fur lined hood under -30 just to keep the frost from building up. it's pretty nice
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>>2851770
almost -20 °C for one night when i was stranded on a tiny train station in the middle of nowhere because the fucking deutsche bahn doesn't function when it's a bit cold
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>>2851770
I started a hike at 10F (-12C) today. Never hiked in that kind of weather before. Also my first time hiking in snow. Not as bad as I thought it would be. I removed my fleece like 10 minutes into the hike.
The only thing I had trouble keeping warm was my hands. I think the handwarmers i brought were duds or I didn't activate them correctly.
My lips are a bit irritated after the fact though. I used chapstick thoroughly not sure how to prevent that.
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>>2851819
Nigger
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>>2852571
>The only thing I had trouble keeping warm was my hands
Just get sufficiently thick mittens.

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I want to try mountaineering but I'm scared of heights
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>>2852542
You don't have to start on steep grades and exposed ridges.
Start with easy trails and get accustomed to being high up.
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>>2852542
>nature's is
JFC

>>2852545
That's just hiking.
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>>2852548
>That's just hiking.
You have to start somewhere.
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As someone who was also pretty fuckin scared of heights (and still is, depending on the situation) but now helps teach a mountaineering course:

Start off scrambling (aka "spicy hiking"). Keep it below Class 3. Learn to orienteer, you can get lost as fuck off trail.

A decent amount of mountaineering doesn't actually involve much exposure to heights. A lot of mountaineering is just about glacier travel and off-trail navigation in the alpine. You can climb, for instance, all five of the WA Volcanos without any actual class 5 rock or ice. That doesn't mean there aren't sketchy sections with big run-outs, just pointing out that "mountaineering" != "hiking + rock climbing" like a lot of people think it is. It's kinda a different set of skills, with some overlap, but it's not the same thing.

Working on balance can help a lot with a fear of heights. Fear of heights is actually fear if falling. Do a lot of balance exercise.

Of course exposure therapy helps too. Try rock climbing outdoors. The best exposure therapy is rappelling. Find some local top-rope crag and rappell until it's automatic. But never practice repelling without an instructor, at least not the first 50 or so times.

Endurance is huge for mountaineering. Weighted uphill hikes are the best way to train. Don't waste time with anything else.
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>>2852548
>That's just hiking.
Most mountaineering is just hiking that then turns into class 3 or 4 scrambling. Gotta walk before you can crawl.

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I want to quit society and live out in nature.
Where can I do this, and how should I prepare?
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>>2838506
look up forestanon
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>>2851256
forestanon is a true chad. he stopped posting on youtube about 2 years ago. I hope he's doing well.
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>>2838714
>low schizo rates
if only you knew
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>>2851869
?
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>>2838506
you can't
humans have always, without exception, lived in and relied on societies. right now the impact of civilization also happens to be global. you can minimize your exposure to the world but leaving it is a fantasy and these threads suck.

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Hunting season is upon the northern hemisphere
>what are you hunting this year?
>any changes in gear?
>any interesting stories from last year?
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>>2852455
Elders, friends. Whoever.
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You yanks have no idea how good you have it, hunting in the UK costs an arm and a leg unless you can use someone's land.
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>>2852505
Just have to pay the mass shooting toll every few weeks.
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>>2852544
>Just have to pay the gang shooting toll every few weeks.
fixed it for ya
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>>2852552
Charlie??? Is-is-is-is th-th-that you???

I'm going to post birds here that I see from my dinning room window. I might post some from other locations too.
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>>2852155
>what the birds see when they look into OP's window.
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>>2852167
They get lost easily compared to other birds, their homing instinct can be fucky. Just to let you know. If you're taking it anywhere near outdoors train it to know you by a whistle (an actual whistle) so that it can find its way home.

Too many parrots have "flown away" over the years.
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>>2852155
We posting birbs?
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It's hard to take birb pic with a phone
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>>2852202
I saw one of these fly by me, and now I have to buy a camera and lense and hunt it down to get some pictures.

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>gun? heh, I just carry bear spray, it's actually more effecti-
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>>2849784
Still most kills come from them being hungry and finding humans to be good eating.
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>>2849652
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>>2852480
What? You can certainly carry bear spray around when you hiking. its lighter than a gun. They make chest and hip holsters for it.
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>>2852492
Incorrect. Most deaths from grizzly attacks are from people suprising them at close range and/or being viewed as a threat to their cubs or food. Very few humans who are killed by grizzly bears are consumed by them. The bears that do eat the body are the ones that get killed for their actions.
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>>2849834
sapient point
even though quite possibly
the spray he delivered in the time may
have been enough
It may not want to continue attacking

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Cave diggers will never get a girlfr.... wat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qEfSmWfwm0
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>>2850072
when picrel happened, only creatures able to get close to the stuck 6 feet guy were 5 feet manlets and women
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>>2850220
were they able to get in there with him?
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>>2850249
only 1-2 guys at a time were able to get nearby him, only 1 person right next to him at a time. some rescuers were able to partially squeeze right next to him into the crack to tie rope to his legs or later around his waist (though they report it was very difficult to do so).
>About 5 hours later Spencer called me up and asked me to respond, saying that people were getting tired and they really needed small cavers.
>After stabilizing myself by jamming my body into a narrower section of the crack I began speaking to John...
>I went first to check, just in case the paramedic couldn’t fit. I first tried the stethoscope and was only able to get it about 3 inches up and to the right of his naval. I didn’t hear a distinct heart beat, only some ruffling, fluttering sounds that were probably a result of me shaking as I tried to steady myself in an awkward location. I then jammed my hand between the rock and pressed as far up his torso I could go to feel for breathing.
https://www.brandonkowallis.com/2024/02/the-nutty-putty-cave-rescue-the-death-of-john-jones-one-rescuers-perspective/
you can check his report, there are also some cool diagrams and photos
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>>2850087
does not work
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>>2849213
In canada women indulge whatever hobby their husbando might be into , even digging a fucking cave. Holy fuck america is so fucked right now


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