Have you ever had any close calls getting stuck in a cave?
>>2876923>cheetosdisgusting american goyslop
>>2877872Man, I consider myself an adventurous person. I have always been willing to take risks in order to have fun. It feels good. This is just fucking insane though. I would rather be gored to death by a hog or fall off a sheer cliff than this shit. This is just so foreign to me. I'm not even claustrophobic but God damn man
Bumpan this bitch. This weekend I've got a trip with a nearby cave institute. Going to be learning how to lead trips for this organization. Since they partner with the state, they have their own particular set of guidelines for leading trips outside of what I'm used to. Either way, in time it'll be nice to lead members of the public into this cave. >>2878949www.caves.org will list local caving clubs in your area (for the United States). Not sure how to go about finding a caving club in Europe other than searching online using those keywords. Give it a shot, Anon, Caving is awesome!
>>2879103the existence of ultra over processed unhealthy snack foods doesn't excuse your literal shit eating son.
>>2876230thatäs pretty neato. but stay safe desu, reasonably so. don't die.
Rank US States (or regions in your country) based on natural beautyhttps://tiermaker.com/create/us-states-36606
>>2878898this. stay strong white soldier. dont buy from them, dont talk to them, throw them under the bus if you can, sabotage them, klliollljkpjp them if you can make it look like an accident.
>>2858679northwest jersey is surprisingly underrated even if the rest of the state sucks
>>2859322this but unironically
>>2880122Shut your mouth. It's fucking full and full of BAD SHIT! Okay?
>>2861472>If you live in Ohio you don't really have /out/, it's the only state in the union that just miserably fails at thatRetards always think the flat north/west are the entire state and have never even seen the south/east.Which is probably for the best, you can keep your crowded tourist traps.
Where did I take this picture today, are you able to get the exact location? It shouldnt be to hard. Post orginal pictures of your recent outings that you took and if you did not go on any recent outings, think about why you keep making excuses instead of just going out even if only for a couple of hours on a small hike.When coming back to this board it feels like 80% is just larpers. There are almost no original pictures taken anymore and 50% is gear threads. lets try to change that and post real pictures that you took.
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>>2880065that's really nice and all but I'm not that fit, can you recommend some easy to moderate hikes (under 4 mi, under 600 ft elevation gain) that lead to good views in northern nh or vermont?
I usually don't bother with boots because they're tedious to put on and I don't roll my ankle in trail runners etc. That said, are cowboy boots ok for /out/? I'm guessing it's blistertown, but at least they must be fast and easy to wear?
>>2877747>They're not great for hiking cause you can't adjust how tightly they fit around your foot like you can with boots with laces.Good quality boots, properly broken in, don't need it, and in fact that's what makes them so good, they end up fitting your whole foot like they're custom made instead of relying on tightness in one specific area like laced shoes. I actually started wearing them because of a suggestion on /out/ after I mentioned instep pain and heel blister problems and now they're all I wear unless I'm wearing shorts or really need the tread and waterproofing of a hiking boot.
>>2875438>they are made for walkingupto guys buttshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Yux4niiO4
>>2878440I've never had blisters in cowboy boots, I wear them almost daily since I was 19, now 27. I'll get blisters on my ankle in lace-ups, even after a few months of regular wear, but a cowboy boot fits well enough after about 2 weeks for me (on my third pair)Won't ever want to go hiking proper in them, I'd eat it if I skid on some mud and walking through sand is impossible, but they're great for city walking if you got decent insoles and have a heel-toe cadence unlike most minorities that flare their toes to the side
>>2874919ive hiked for 5 hours in and out in cowboy boots. its dooable.i did wear a hole in the leather sole, but the boots were quite worn and needed a new sole anyway.>>2874953skill issue.i can walk and run in cowboy boots just fine and have jogged along my friends going on runs.you need well fitted, broken in boots, good socks, quality inserts.
i wear cowboy boots daily but i have an old pair of ropers i use for the woods. I went on a 3 mile trail hike and was fine. I live in east texas and mainly bush whack the woods though, which means no stamped down trail, just dense forest/swamp with tons of sticker bushes, thorny plants and vines, and snakes. There’s no way i’m wearing regular shoes or sandals anymore for trudging through the swampy woods where i live. I’ve done it a few times and twice barefoot but i move so slowly because i don’t want to get snake bit or swing my leg into stinging nettles or thorny vines. my friend went barefoot too once and 3 minutes into it got a 3/4 inch thorn stuck under his foot, he’s known to be reckless.As long as the boots are worn in and they’ve got tread on the sole you should be fine. I wouldn’t take those stiff smooth bottom dancing boots
Some context: I'm a European, have a wife and child (8), and my outdoor experience has always been mainly spring and summer, occasionally early autumn fishing, hiking and kayaking trips lasting 2-5 days on average. We have some outdoor gear, but I haven't truly worked to make bugout bags or anything of the sort.I've lately been considering the concept of bugging out, in relation to tensions with Russia. In that process I realized that there are many hundreds of thousands who "bugged out" in the last two decades and the prepping/bugout bag people don't often seem to mention them at all. There are also hundreds of homeless people in my country alone who survive daily in any weather.Are we not doing enough learning the lessons that these groups have to offer about the realities of bugging out? Or is the blindspot just mine?I guess the question/discussion would be:>How do you think being a refugee for weeks or months changes the concept of bugging out?>How does long term homelessness impact bugging out?>How do you think dragging a family around impacts bugging out? How do you keep them safe and "on tempo" in long term away situations?
>>2880394Well I'm not buying a homestead in Spain or Argentina on the need to respond to Russian aggression. And a bug-in homestead within drone distance from the front lines isn't exactly my ideal scenario either.The thing I'm interested in is how to gear up to get a family of three across a continent effectively, and then at least be sheltered from the elements and moderately fed and hydrated for a while once we get there.
>>2880470who told you to leave your country? there's certainly a remote valley no one cares about far enough from places of interest
>>2880473>Remote valleyNot only do we not have a remote valley. We effectively have no valleys at all. Also "remote" doesn't carry the same meaning in western Europe as it does in the US. My country specifically is one of the most densely populated in the world. Also, again the whole premise is not to sit and wait for a shahed drone to pick my bedroom to go nap time.
>>2880478you're being schizo or shitposting
>>2880479What is schizo about this?
What month has the perfect weather for you? Relevant right now as mine is September. It's just perfectly tame weather here.
>>2880177Who are you even talking to? Got to be a bot.
Winter when it's really cold. I go up to the mountains during those times because I'm suicidal and hope one day an avalanche takes me.
>>2880188Youre just an idiot that doesnt understand context.
Here, April and May are the "ordinary" weather months here, with no extreme weather and just "nice days"
October or February. I like cold soaking rain and snow.
Wool season is always here, so post your recent acquisitions, finds, scores, freebies, and hand-me-downs.Topics include:>blanket sizes and associated problems>mods and enhancements>repairs and letting go>dying>ponchos and dual-use items>common misconceptions and uncommon truths>giving wool garments as gifts>knitting and darning
>>2879072I'm not the one sperging out because someone dared to consult the machine devil.
>>2879087Did you really think people here would be supportive of ai? How brown are you?For something on topic, wife’s sister saw some Moreno wool socks on clearance (probably from last winter still) and thought of me and gifted them to me for at Sunday brunch after church yesterday.
>>2879100based sister-in-lawremember to get her sth for xmas
>>2878903It depends - like many things. Wool blankets will some times have a slight odor to them, not stink, but it also depends on how much youre able to air it. Some will say merino wool may have slightly less smell than european wool.
>>2878953>He doesn't know libraries are a thing>He doesn't know epubs and e-readers are a thing>He doesn't know he can literally pirate any book he wants with just an internet connectionMan, stop. You're embarassing yourself.
Why would you have a sign directing you to a mountain that's on private land and illegal to access?
California does the same stupid fucking shit.>MOUNTAIN TRAIL 1 MILE THIS WAY!Then you get there>PRIVATE PROPERTY NO TRESPASSING
>>2880056government boomers are such mysterious creatures!
Why are you even part of this hobby if youre afraid of spoopy signs owned by old farts?
>>2878545Ask forgiveness not permission. "Just passing through" works fine so long as you're not standing within eyeshot of keep out signs.
>>2880195>>2880200Americans love violence and confrontation over rules. They live for it. Why give them a reason? I think Americans should have right to roam, within reason (trying to find something scenic, not to bother others and being respectful of houses and yards), but also I turned back because the road was shit and meant for ATVs not because it was private property. I swear I don't recall seeing posted signs @ Cold Knob itself but I could be wrong.
...the endless talus fields of Norway...
>>2878207*splosh* *splosh* *splosh* *splosh* *splosh*
>>2879577This is not true. This is old thinking thats stuck in traditional hiking culture. If you have trained legs then you can hike most of these mountains in sandals. And no, you dont have to carry heavy, people are just too used to 5kg rucksack, 2kg sleeping bag, 3-4kg tents, and 1.5kg sleeping mat + pad, and then a bunch of food and clothing you dont need.
>>2878207That looks pretty comfy actually
>>2880115it isn'thttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0pX5MfDBas
>>2880114Where do you hike?I live at 70 degrees north, we can get sudden snow storms in the summer, especially at elevation.You need to carry extra shit in case shit happens, that equals a heavier pack.I and most people here hike along sheep tracks and overgrown trails that are not planned or in any way maintained.In boulder fields like that, even with well trained legs and feet, one wrong step when tired can get you stuck in the middle of fucking nowhere, maybe without mobile service as well.
>14er>trailhead elevation 13875are westoids for real?
>>2876280Is peakbagging out west not really a thing since you can drive most of the way up mountains?East coaster and here we'll mention if something's a 4k or not because it's an easy way of communicating how intense of a hike you're going on since there's usually at least 2k' elevation gain.
>>2880099Yeah we drive right up to summits. I managed to take my prius up here.
>>2876280Is that Kate Hikes?
>>2880099There are people in colorado wearing shirts with all the 14ers theyve done. CO is the epicenter of peakbagging. Only a coloradan has asked me whether it was a winter ascent like his was or not.And there are way more mountains that require serious elevation gain in the west than the east. Theres just that many more peaks even with many that have roads higher up nearby. The wilderness areas are way bigger, meaning the peaks in the center can require multiple days and up and down multiple passes to get to. There are hundreds of peaks in the sierra nevada above 12000ft and almost all trailheads are below 9000. Many are lower at like 7 or 6.
>>2876280Oh look, it's another East coaster with shit mountains cope thread.
Guys wanted to do the most extreme things with absolutely no equipment, explore suspicious caves with "DANGER" practically written all over them and even try to catch venomous snakes. Idk why this death drive seems to be so prevalent among men.
>>2879466sometimes you do whatever you have to do to get away from women.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FgxacX72snA&ra=m
>>2879542did you imagen yourself as the major when you typed this out tho?I know I did when I read it
>>2879466>and even try to catch venomous snakes.cuz they're cute.also men's lives suck and men are taught that their lives don't matter, which leads to a nihilistic approach to life for a lot of men.
It's just fun. I'm not going /out/ just to walk and look at thing. if i see a cool thing i want to climb on top of it. It always frustrates me when i visit an old cathedral or something and i cant climb and explore it how i want.
>>2880178>old cathedralIt frustrates me that we're not allowed to build new cathedrals, or forts, or castles, or wacky unique stuff in general anymore.It seems the world has become stagnant and gay and boring. Too many rules and zoning laws nowadays.Always funny how these things are now considered beloved landmarks but if you tried to build them today you'd get in trouble.
A thread for paragliding, hang gliding, ultralight flying, and the like.
>>2875506you aren't suppose to fly indoors, if it's out it's /out/
>>2875643>music plays >"to be continued..."
>>2875598and yet all my exhibitionism threads keep getting deleted off this gay fucking board
is the paramotor the most spiritually anti-jewish vehicle?
The snowy world you grew up in no longer exists. There are those out there who made billions depriving you of snowy winters.
>>2880159Modern "science" is a dogmatic religion so yeah, they'll say what they have to to not get excommunicated.
>>2880157Yeah it was so nice before we had cars and electricity and floods never happened ever, it's all our fault that they do now.
>>2880162>1000yr flood>caused by melting glaciers>nothing to see here because it flooded before>August hottest month on earth in recorded history>it was summer its supposed to be hotDo you understand how simple-minded that thinking is? Do you know what context is? To wave away the fact that the climate IS changing is simply not a rational premise- you can debate the cause(s) and potential impacts but dont deny the facts.
>>2880160>didnt answer the question>derps insteadThats not how science works, billy.
>>2880153>>2880156They presented the data, probabilities and implications of each outcome, with later adjustments. It was the media that ran away with wild claims, not my fault you're too dumb to see beyond pop-science reporting and go assess the data for yourself (not that you could meaningfully parse it desu)
I went on a hike last week with some friends and holy fuck, never again. The whole thing became a photoshoot, non stop picture taking, I've never been so uncomfortable during a hike.
>>2875316The meta is hiking alone, meeting other like minded solitary hikers and enjoying each other’s company at the summit or the campsite.
>>2875334>anon learns about theory of mind from a reddit infographic and starts posting about it on every threadgive it a rest pal
>>2877013kek, valid crashout
How are you even supposed to approach people on a trail?
>>2880134by walking past them?
The nature is harsh, dry, not welcoming, the people are very dumb and either friendly if they can't actually help you, annoying when they want to help you ged rid of all cash in your wallet or rude when they don't care for your existence.Frequent interaction with the wild animals is what made it worthwhile though.
>>2880052>Churkovsk, Novosibirskvs>Coombasa, KenyaIt's not even a challenge. I one you get hot black chicks bouncing on your dick, cool safaris, and gorgeous beaches with all year long good weather. In another, you get drone strikes, mosquito swarms in summers, and -50C in winter. The amount of STDs and HIV is about the same.
>>2871267anon might have missed the whole early 2000s interment if he has no idea how image macros even looks like
Who would have thought that the problem with Africa is the fucking savage niggers?
Did you expect them to be smart? IQ stats is the only relevant fact about Africa.I fear for the day those IQ 70 niggers become the majority of the world population.
>>2880098>I fear for the day those IQ 70 niggers become the majority of the world population.You have nothing to worry about, because retards like you have already been the majority for a long time.
