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Have any of you seen bigfoot?
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>>2857840
Deer also do a lot of crashing around.
Fighting during the rut season scrubbing thw felt off their antlers.
Theu kill dozens of sapings every year just scrubbing their antlers at my place.
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>>2857907
We didn't have much dear back then. And this was just one crash and then dead silence.
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>>2858177
Branches break off and fall all the time. Think about all the dead fall cluttering the forest floor that snapped off 40+ feet in the air.

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near one of the most remote lakes in the western US. I thought /out/ told me the western US was remote and untouched. all you really need is a car, AllTrails™ App, and some running shoes?
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>>2857734
no

#calledyouonyourlarp
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>>2857734
meh. maybe. in my state, state land is relatively small in comparison to federal land but what it has is very accessible- and not just state parks. The state owns all sorts of random parcels that are not developed in any way- little to no signage etc....but you are free to hike, fish, hunt on it etc...its great because a lot of people dont even know about it (them) so they see very little traffic.

>>2857738
he is refering to land owned by the State not federal land
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>>2857738
Has anyone been to the little slot of BLM land in SD?
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>>2858121
no. but been past it on the hwy. its right outside of sturgis so not super isolated but looks cool enough. some historic stuff there too.
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>>2857030
RuffleKKKuntz dat be Jenny Lake trailhead in Grand Tit-ons

there was just a news article on it and how Delta lake is over-infested with humanimals in need of extermination

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my friend is backpacking in the grand canyon this march and asked last minute if I wanted to come
backcountry permits for this mach closed already
do they even check for those in the park??
I hiked the high sierra trail in sequoia national park and no one ever asked for my permit, even as I was going down to the mount whitney trailhead
should I just risk it?
are they more likely to check for permits in the grand canyon?
also, if they do, if I just told them an animal ran off with it or something, would they let me off the hook?
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If your friend has a permit I think they can just add you.
I have seen rangers on a couple of my hikes in the grand canyon on the popular trails (bright angel and kaibab), I think in those areas if you're camping you have to stay at one of the designated campsites anyway though and pretty sure you have to check in at those. anywhere else more remote with dispersed camping I doubt you'll see a ranger unless you're unlucky
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>>2858019
Backcountry permits aren't a thing. Laws can only be made on what can be enforced. Backcountry permits cannot be successfully enforced.
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>>2858019
They can just add you assuming you havent met an upper limit on number of people in a group. I would say you are more likely to run into a ranger in the busier parts of the grand canyon like than on the HST in sequoia. If you risk it and do run into a ranger, whether they let it slide will depend mostly on your manners and if you are breaking other rules. Saying an animal stole it is like saying a dog ate your homework and will just piss them off. They also can easily check with the permit office over radio or even have printouts of all the permit holders in the area they patrol, so dont lie to them.
t. forest janny who has worked checking backcountry permits on the HST
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>>2858050
You have to be >16 to post on 4chan.

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It's been a little while, /out/....

Thinking about camping with my dad as a kid. He died earlier this year. I miss the hell out of you dad.
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>>2855476
When the money is fake, everything is. Being a lawyer is fine, it suckles at the teet of the state and becomes fat which is all anybody could hope to do in this hellhole.
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>>2855653
Just see it as their time. It's the next part of their life journey. See it less as something to be sad about, and rather slight excitement for them to make it to the next step, none of us escape it. That brings me comfort anyway.
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>>2855472
Good on you, getting sober is not easy.
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>>2858071
I wonder, if you held an alcoholic in recovery down and pumped their anal cavity with alcohol. Would they hold the alcohol, or would they shit it out? You've seen alcoholics being force fed alcohol but never a forced buttchug. The question is: would they accept this windfall/defeat? Would they yield or resist based on the strangeness of it?
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>>2858149
Well, this is response I did not expect. So I will give you one in return. The colon is actually capable of absorbing the alcohol, so they would get drunk as fuck. There was a trend (and I hope it is still alive), where girls were dipping tampons in booze and inserting them in their butthole to get drunk secretly over long period. Did the guys do it too? I dont know, maybe gayboys did. But anyway I do not want to go on a tangent, I guess the alcoholics feelings would depend whether he/she is in treatment willingly. Maybe if you told him/her that it is because it wont smell from breath, they would look forward to it.

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I want to quit society and live out in nature.
Where can I do this, and how should I prepare?
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I swear I've seen this exact thread before post for post. This is a botted demoralization thread, isn't it?
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>>2856952
Faggot. that wasn't even my post.
The cunty little shit wants to live off grid. he wants to be self sufficient. Great!

But rather than being self sufficient and doing the MOST BASIC OF FUCKING RESEARCH, his first step, his first (and likely, only) FUCKING STEP is to ask the retarded CUNTY FAGGOT SHITS on this board to spoon feed him.
Do you not see the problem there?

This same obnoxiously retarded thread pops up on a weekly basis
>please wipe my ass for me, i can't figure out how to google basic shit, spoon feed me how to be super self sufficient and move off grid.
And then cunty little faggot shits like you white knight for these idiots.

I legitimately hope everyone who posts these kinds of retarded fucking threads actually goes for it and McCandless' themselves.
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>>2838506
>Where can I do this,
Rural Alaska, particularly native villages that are cut off from the road system.
>and how should I prepare?

>Location
Pick a village with a low crime rate, ideally one with a VPSO but no VPOs or TPOs. That makes sure that the tweakers stay in check, but you're not being badgered by some faggot at the behest of the tribal council.
Research which villages are cool with whatever ethnicity you are. There's one village near Anchorage that straight up ran two white families out and stole their houses. Nothing really got done about it. Make sure you don't move to some cartoonishly racist village.
>Sustenance
Most villages love violating hunting regulations, so as long as you're not stupid you'll be able to hunt all you want. Some really native villages have a "your first moose kill goes to the village elders" rule, so just avoid letting anyone know if you get one. Net fishing is the go-to in the village, and you can get all you need for the year in just a few months. Smoke it or find a way to keep it frozen and you have food all year. Get a botanical field guide to help with herb and berry identification.
>Environmental considerations
If you're on the Cook Inlet, you'll have decent weather comparatively but a lot of the land is marshy. Mosquitoes are already bad here, they're much worse along the inlet. If you're in the interior, you better have a SOLID insulation setup and some way to keep your shelter airtight. It is currently -40 in some parts of the interior. If you're on an island like the Aleutians or anything directly facing the Pacific ocean, you will need to be prepared for tsunamis. And volcanoes. And typhoons, I guess.
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>>2841078
One of the Alaskafags here. It's because so much of the state is undeveloped, mostly because yeah it kinda sucks. Anywhere warm winds up developed, and that means those places attract annoying busybody faggots who will call the sheriffs/troopers on you for trying to live innawoods and you'll wind up getting badgered by some retard eventually. You can really just disappear here in AK if you want.
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>>2857045
>You can really just disappear here in AK if you want.
Is this true?

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I didn't try to be an ultralight fag on purpose but it turned out all the gear I need for a 3-4 night backpacking trip fits in a 40-45L backpack, so I'm looking at options for backpacks in that range. Currently using this Gossamer Gear 42L pack and it's okay so far, but does anybody have other suggestions for mid-sized packs?
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Sorry for hijacking the thread but I'm looking for a big (45+L) pack with removable lid that can turn into a daypack like this youtube.com/watch?v=g9dDFltpt1Y (But not quite like this. I'd love the daypack to have a long vertical compartment that can fit an ipad or a small laptop)
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>>2855519
Maybe Eberlestock has something like that. I know one of their large ruck packs has a lid daypack.
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>>2855513
Frames for daypacks are overkill, simple as.
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>>2855256
Granite Gear makes good shit.
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>>2855519
that's pretty cool but for me personally that would be too much work converting the whole thing. i'd probably just bring an extra smaller pack and use that. there should be many lightweight options, especially if you are looking for something in the 10L range

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Do you like exploring caves? What sort of caves have you been in?
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Not cave but dgaf. Old psych facility nearby (Buffalo NY) had tunnels under it. Would go explore them a shit ton, they led to other buildings in the facility. You could see the asbestos in the air though lmao
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>>2854968
Yeah mate done it twice this year funnily enough.
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>>2853263
Me too! OPs whore of a mother really gets around I guess.
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All our caves are flooded but they’re pretty fun to dive in. Florida is great for aquatic spelunking
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>>2855949
I snorkled this exact one - devil's den - shit was cash

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>crowded af
>rocks falling on people's heads
>higher death rate than Denali
I'd like to climb a really big mountain but Mont Blanc is certainly not my dream, despite its beuty. Grossglockner is much less suicidal if you have some climbing experience.
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>>2853078
>>i wish I was at k2 instead
Wouldn't Matterhorn be better choice than Mont Blanc for someone who wants to be at k2?
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>>2852346
can i rent a farmers' donkey for a week and walk around the region with it
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>>2852299
me in the back
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>>2852299
That was helicoptered in for a photoshoot.
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>>2852732
Your gay urges reveal themselves

Weather is starting to get cold and I wanted to get you guys opinion so I figured I'd get the wool general going
What's an acceptable blend in your guys experience for /out/ings? I'm looking at getting one of those L.L. Bean birdseye sweaters and it's 80 wool 20 Rayon. Will the rayon be detrimental at all? Anyone have experience?
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>>2857667
Same here. My WW denim jeans arrived over Christmas. I got them tailored and have worn them every frickin day. Love em.
Also bought my first John Smedley for lounge wear and it's some of the best merino I've ever felt. Bit of a wool addict now.
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>>2857654
gimme
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>>2857654
>thatsniceifeelhappyforyou.jpg
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>>2857723
Mr. Money Bags over here.
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>>2857667
>>2857723
hellyeah fellow weatherwoollie here
just got my innes ranch lynx anorak last week, it's so soft it feels like fleece
should be getting another pair of jeans when i get home from work today as well, great way to start the weekend
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I'm going to ireland for a wedding in december, where should I go to buy wool clothing in belfast?

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KEYSTONE WAS THE FIRST RESORT TO OPEN YESTERDAY AT 3PM!
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>>2855760
>skis can last for 30+ years
sure they can last. but a lot has changed in 30yrs and the skiis of today are vastly different than those of 30 yrs ago in terms of design and function.
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>>2856928
how skinny are the skis you've been downhilling on? If I had my druthers I'd pay ot take my nordic stuff down greens for a day to build skills, which is what the old telemark etc. books all say to do, but IRL people always tend to see this as comically suicidal (and yet when I was learning locked-heel alpine I could go up and eat shit 100,000 times and nobody batted an eye..?)
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Anybody ever skied Hokkaido (Japan)?
I keep on hearing how it's a bucket list experience, but at the same time I'm seeing stuff about how the mountains aren't very steep
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>>2857955
I'll be there in two weeks, I'll let you know how it goes. Going to Niseko United, Rusutsu, Kiroro and Teine.
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>>2857955
I've been to Niseko in the winter but sadly didn't get to ski, I was only in Hokkaido for a few days and it was some kind of holiday where the resorts were closed. Seemed like it'd be pretty great though, the snow was some of the most insane powder I've ever seen, I stuck my arm in a snowbank and it was like cold air.

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What is the thinnest /out/ glove technology available today?
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>>2854218
>Son, I've seen the clothes you buy for your "hikes in the woods"
>Is there something you want to tell us?
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>>2846972
dont know if it's the thinnest, but i really like my pig fdt gloves.
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>>2854238
>>2854218
Now I really want to try this
I wonder if you could make clothing made out of multiple alternating layers of regular material and the mesh
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Well now it's too warm again, I just used two-layer gloves, wool outside and some idk what fabric inside (they were 4 bux lol).

>>2858017
I have lifting gloves, the top is a fine mesh with a wider mesh on top. If the mesh stuff works, this would only need another layer to trap the air (and cover the whole hand). Maybe I should get a sewing machine instead
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>>2846974
Nitrile works great when you're handling supplies or trying to adjust the snow removal equipment and you have to keep your hands from getting wet because your actual mitts are soaked

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Are barefoot shoes really that goated? Im buying new shoes soon, and i just wanna know if its truly the way to go. Especially considering that there arent many barefoot hiking shoes, that are somewhat waterproof.
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I find I get a similar use wearing cheap aquasocks, they're better than flip flops for allowing foot movement and sensitivity, but not as secure as lace up shoes especially on downhills. On heavily travelled trails they're fine. I actually found a pair at fucking walmart that is halfway decent and has a wide toebox so they look a bit like clown shoes, but they're comfy af, worst case scenario they make good camp shoes that you can river cross with.
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>>2856502
I recommend some nip socks.
They’re called Tabi or something and it’s nice to keep your feet warm in winter but still slip your flops on.
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>>2856498
No. Literal marketing gimick, and you probably fell for it.
All the cons of being barefoot, with none of the pros of shoes for foot protection.
Your toes get more freedom, but that's it.
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>>2856498
I bought a couple of toe spacers on Temu and it fixed my knee issues overnight, literally. Started hiking in Altra Lone Peaks, which has zero drop and a wide toebox, but a thick sole. It took a couple of months, but my plantar fasciitis, which I've struggled with for years, is almost gone. True barefoot shoes, fully flexible with no soles, are good for short hikes, but not long hikes, or city walks, or jobs where you stand on tiles or concrete for long periods. Your feet need some protection, even if it's "unnatural". But absolutely get shoes with a wide toebox and zero drop, you'll feel the difference immediately and you'll never be able to go back.
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>>2857792
i'm going to co-sign this anon. zero drop boots fixed some issues i was starting to develop in my knees with a 30 lb pack. it hurts your achilles and calves like a motherfucker but that's because all those muscles are weak as fuck from shitty standard shoes. don't immediately throw on 30+ lbs with zero drop. train light and work up.

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Are radiator or those big oil jugs good for storing gasoline temporarily for a day or two if you had to fill one up? I hear gasoline will soften and eat up certain plastic bottles. Who makes big bottles with a big cap opening to put a gasoline station fuel nozzle in it?
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>>2857651
It's no sparks. It's venting and pressure in a hot environment.
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>>2857675
>Asians are smart
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>>2857650
Depends on how much you're needing to store, but you really should just use purpose-made containers. They're cheap and significantly better than anything makeshift.
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>>2857651
Someone post the video of the chic pumping gas into a grocery bag.
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>>2857676
Protip:

The cuck spout law only applies to motor vehicles (i.e. legally road cars).
Marine applications are exempt and you can get normal gas cans at your local boat shop.
But in reality you should be running race cans anyways.

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You did visit Patagonia before some tourist decided to burn it down, right?
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>>2857932
>I so don't give a shit I'm going to keep posting about it insistently to prove how much I don't care about it

There is that mental disorder of yours showing again.

>>2857935
>They eat through whole forests
This is not true at any level. They are limited to riparian areas that they select for very specific conditions. They do crop rotations so not to deplete forests and they usually limit the size of the trees they eat. The trees they focus on are willow and other riparian deciduous trees--ALL riparian deciduous trees are aggressive and actually do better because of beaver prune backs.

>The only people that hate loggers are land developers and loggers

The locals are poor retards that take the money the loggers giver them and the land developers give them and parrot what the people giving them money say. They're just like the american retards crying about beavers because the beavers force humans to actually think about the watershed and where they build on the watershed and humans are short sighted retards that LOVE building on the most retarded parts of the watershed.

Beavers build riparian habitat and increase watershed retention. This is a NET benefit to the local forest. This will always be a net benefit to every forest on fucking earth.


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>>2856950
Went when I was a kid but dont remember much. Aside from the megasloth caves any good /out/ings recs?
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>>2857970
Alright, you honestly seem to know what you're talking about so I'll trust you. I was just repeating what I'd heard from the locals during the time I lived there, but yeah, people tend to have a shallow understanding of things.
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>>2857970
I'm just irritated by your irrational believe into some banker bogeyman.
I thought I could console you but you seem too far gone. Keep living in fear.
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>>2857970
>The locals are poor retards that take the money the loggers giver them and
Wow wow wow careful there my friend. Everthing you said is 100% right and I'm fully agree with you, but if you phrase it like that I'm afraid its just gonna make the locals want to oppose you and dismiss your valid ecological concerns as "hwite colonizers telling us what to do with our own land"

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Is it possible to hike in North Korea? It's mountain ranges are basically prime backpacking territory and peaceful solitude.
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>>2854412
Yes, the fat pig desperately needs dollerinos. Hence they are rebranding themselves as a tpurist destination. It works easy for the chinese and is already popular there. After all they have one thing: Untouched nature. Because they have nothing to touch it with. Qesterners can also go and they will go to great lengths to satisfy your particular wishes. But you will always have a guide with you and you will have to go on the official tour, see the capital, monuments, museums and stuff.
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Plenty of pristine nature on the Chinese side. Tigers and wild ginseng and shit. I don't think movement is completely unrestricted up there, but at least you won't get Warmbier'd.
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>>2856871
Sorry but that situation wouldn't happen to me cause i'm not a thief. I also have no fear of my hands being cut off in saudi arabia because once again, I am not a thief.
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>>2854412
I hiked mt paektu when I last visited. There are mountain trails fucking everywhere and everyone loves to do the kim il sung pilgrimage too
Not sure if they've lifted the covid travel restrictions yet though. I went back pre 2020
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>>2854412
No. You'll get labor-camped for even trying.


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