What's the ideal fabric that balances out durability, shading capability, and UV protection for a beach tent/canopy? Thinking of making one of picrel for my niece since we're all going to the beach this summer
>>2868341Polyester- It doesn't absorb much water and holds up to UV really well. You can get lightweight polyester tent footprints for not that much on Amazon.
Shibumi absolutely doesn’t list the type of fabric they use. My guess is that they realize how easy it is to just build your own. It’s literally just two large rectangle of fabric (probably 6 to 8 yards), a collapsible 11mm aluminum tent pole, some rope, and a bag. Also, they’ve switched to a fabric that’s reportedly a little more stretchy to cut down on the flapping. It’s definitely polyester, but what kind is anyone’s guess.This thread has renewed my interest in these shelters, even though I don’t get to the beach nearly as often as I’d like to.
>>2868350so basically a bivac with bug net.
>>2868341nylon is softer than polyester. but if you want to go light, Ikarex .50 is a light poly, available and easy to sew
>>2868341cotton
Discuss nudism. Is it something you grew up with, or found later in life? Have you ever considered giving it a try?I wanted to try making a thread on a blue board in the hopes that there could be a serious discussion instead of the degenerate gooning the occasional nudism thread devoles into on /b/.
>>2865792>but I live in NorCali swim nude on the central bc coast year round even when its snowing, harden up mofo. itll put more hair on yer chest
>>2865783The way I see it, seeing those people in swimsuits is bad enough that seeing them without the swimsuit hardly makes a difference.
skyclad bump
Got a few way out spots I can hike nude at and do fairly often when I can. company would be cool but most dudes into this are degenerate fags and make it sexual I’ve nude hiked and skinny dipped with a few women but it’s hard enough finding /out/ chicks let alone ones that want to walk around with sweaty tits cooch and asscheeks in the Texas sun. I’ve had a few over the years that will and will skinny dip with me too wish Americans weren’t such prude fags about nudity
>>2865783being nude when it's hot is naturalwhat you're saying has a lot of logic behind, but the mistake is thinking being nude is the problemthe problem is disgusting ugly people existing and being allowed to exist same with degenerates
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>>2868883the last pic from my /out/ing to western mass is the stevens boulders, a fairly famous granite spot in huntington MA with a good 100 problems spread out among the various boulders. i think massachusetts is best construed as a component of the overall new england /out/ scene, the place you visit when you feel like being in a place where you're never truly in the middle of nowhere
My phone did not do it justice.
>>2868961one more pic from the top of the boulder. there's something special about western mass that i should put in my 1-2 yearly rotation of /out/ spots for the rest of my life. it is a place to be cherished forever
>>2868222>All my gear was lost in a fire last yearholy fuck I would be so fucking pissed if this happened to me
I just found out about bivy sacks, what the fuck? I always thought bivy sacks were those emergency things that you wrap around you to survive until you get rescued. I didn't know they make ones that are pretty much just a body bag where you can go in and sleep for the night. I literally just spent $800 on a UL tent because I like being as minimalist as possible. These things just seem too perfect, what are some cons?
>>2868959>>2868955I think it's worth distinguishing between waterproof bivies and bug bivies since they're pretty difference in their use case. The former have all the downside mentioned by >>2868959 and I hear condensation is also big problem. Pretty niche items as far as I can see.I've been thinking of getting a bug bivy though. You get much the same openness to the environment as cowboy camping but without the exposure to critters (of course, in areas where bug pressure is high you'll probably want a tent anyway - bivies don't offer a place to chill out of reach of insects anymore than they offer space to chill out of the rain). Not really that much lighter than an UL tent when you account for a tarp but faster to set up (at least on days where you don't need the tarp) and I've camped in a couple of spots recently where setting up my trekking pole tent was a major hassle but I didn't want to be sleeping in the open air.
>>2868992What if I want a winter bivy though? I wouldn't mind carrying around a -40 bag and a bivy.
>>2868955>I literally just spent $800 on a UL tent because I like being as minimalist as possible. These things just seem too perfect, what are some cons?Having no space is a big enough con to never want one if you ever hiked in non-perfect conditions. Condensation on the inside in winter also is terrible
>>2868993Then prepare to wake up damp from condensation I guess. Remember to find time during the day to unpack your sleeping bag so it can dry out before you need to use it again.
>>2868957you can always make an "inside" with a tarpnot the same privacy, but rainproof
can anyone recommend a good pair of hiking boots? price doesn't really matter, i'm just trying to get a decent pair of boots that won't bust a hole straight through the bottom like my last pair (my walking posture is fine)
>>2843740it shifts the weight towards the ball of the foot otherwise theres a tendency to tire the heel
>>2843610Boreal Maipo. You can go up to a 20k, they are not double boots, but they might be one of the most solid rigid boots out there. They are indestructible, cheap and comfortable. You don't need princess feet like with La Sportiva, their foot bed is pretty wide.
>>2843610>can anyone recommend a good pair of hiking boots?My Dad is a lifelong Elk hunter, and has tried MANY different brands of boots. He swears by "Asolo", and due to the hype, is now using "Crispi", and he likes those too. I have a pair of "Asolo" that do the job.
>>2843610I use boots for autumn-winter:Merrell Speed Strike 2 MidAnd trail runner sneakers for spring-summer:Altra Lone Peak 9+Both are great
>>2866761>make boots
how do you train for mountaneering hiking and backpacking and out in generali know the optimal way is to load weight on a backpack and walk uphill and down, increasing distance, elevation and weight progressivelybut i live in flat area and it's depressing to drive for 1 hour just to be on the same boring trail. anything closer is shit, i need to go up and down the same hill 10 times to get close to the total elevation i want, it's boring and depressing and people who i encounter think i'm stupidany other suggestions?
walk barefootalways carry a belt of rocksshoot yourself in you knees to practise endurancealways shit while walking
>put 25% of bodyweight in pack>get a plyo box or sturdy chair that reaches 75-100% of your knee>do full step ups-- stand on the floor, right leg up, left leg up, stand, left leg down, right leg down, stand, repeat with legs flippedDoing this for 30 minutes to an hour or so emulated the feeling of hiking better than basically anything I've done. Treadmills and stairmasters can be too easy to lock into, real trails require a bit of stabilizer effort and thought to follow in a way the box does better. If you haven't done this before don't push through knee pain and start light.
I’ve been walking up and down a very steep hill (the Mississippi River levee). It hits calves better than an emulated workout like a stair climber while still using hamstrings and glutes. Stairs always felt very quad-dominant and more like high intensity cardio or something; just super hard right out of the gate no matter how slow I went. Hills feel like more of a balanced workout and endurance heavy. Maybe it’s just me. I think it has to do with body mechanics and planter flexion but I don’t know.
>>2868307Same, I just train on an indoor bike and jump rope and my stamina has never come close to running out on day hikes up and down a mountain
>>2853460no need to train unless you're doing some actual dangerous summit with actual rope climbing/ ice climbing
Apparently I'm not supposed to walk barefoot?
>>2866186Wife got me some nip socks for wearing with flip flops. They take some getting used to but they’re ‘aight.
>>2864167>hey man what's the time>uhh it's gem-o-clock
>>2865193Based and grounded-pilled
>>2864241I bought myself a pair of overpriced Vivobarefoot Tracker Forest ESC. I will never go back to narrow toe boxes again, hell I wish they widened it even more but I can't seem to find any shoes like those square shoes in The Hobbit.
>>2864166it limits the scope/range of your path and your speed
Last thread >>2856593This is a thread for enjoying a pipe while doing outdoor activities. If you ask why this belongs on /out/, you've never spentan evening by the campfire with a pipe silently enjoying the nature around you, and you're missing out.>how to get startedPurchase a corn cob pipe (or a cheap briar pipe) and a pouch of Half and Half or Captain Black tobacco from a smoke shopor online. You will need a lighter or match, and something to tamp it with--a large nail works well if you don't have a pipe tool.Fill the pipe with tobacco, pack it down halfway, top it off, pack it down to 3/4, top it off again, pack gently and enjoy. Smokeslower than you think you need to, the tobacco tastes best when it is burning cool. Tamp and re-light as needed. If you stillhave trouble, try different methods on YouTube until you find one that works for you.>smoking a pipe will give you cancerOriginally the Surgeon General found that pipe and cigar smokers, following a careful study of the statistics (at a time whenmost adults smoked, so they had a good sample size), had insignificant death rate increases. Nowadays, tobacco is beinglegislated against while hard drugs are being legalized. Put two and two together. Tobacco is just another good thing under attack by the government.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2868795This is making my mouth water. I love poppy seeds UGH. In addition to tasting great in pastries and muffins and overnight oats - I went through a phase where I considered making unwashed poppy tea. I never considered grinding & smoking them, though. Would you be able to do it with regular ol’ poppy seeds obtained from a grocery store spice aisle? Or do you need more virginal unwashed home-grown ones. In minecraft; this is all about the hypothetical efficacy
>>2868797if its "breadseed poppy" (papaver somniferum), yeah, you can do itsome people will buy a shaker of seeds & make a tea out of it for pain, but the pod itself is where you can really get the power out ofthe biggest issue is that you don't know how much it actually has though, so you can pretty easily kill yourself if you're abusing it (well, that and the fact its extremely addictive, since its literally just opium)smoking it would definitely be the most dangerous way, since you'd have basically no time to tell if you're starting to overdose, along with the specific method being more addictive too
have someone here tried to replace these rubber clenchers by some rope or a nylon line?i want to be hand free but i don't want to chew too much on the stem itself, and do so without buying something on the web since i'm away, hence repurposing some line or similar
>>2869095Silicone straws work.
I love coin cuts so much it’s unreal. Very whimsical, fun to stuff or rub out. Beautiful presentation.Very euphoric when you get a new shipment of de luxe navy rolls or LBF and see all those stacked coins
Does this mean no more comfy fire watch jobs?
>>2865989Conservation, policing, and sustainable foresty like controlled burns and stuff. Its called silviculture and you have to go to school for it. Thats right, park rangers are smarter than you.
>>2869102>Thats right, park rangers are smarter than youKekMost of them just sit in a booth all day doing nothingThe current policy for forests nowadays is "leave it alone" because everybody is too lazy to actually do work to properly manage wildlife habitat. And even if they wanted to they would need to jump through millions of hoops and red tapes so they can't actually do anything
>>2865528>every single one of them is fat/old as fuckI think the administration was right on this one lads.
>>2869143They're in admin roles. These are budget planners, logistics coordinators, policy makers. They don't work the field lol.
I'm posting an image of hitler's army on 4 wheels.>>2869100>i dont LIKE the mirror >:(
>washington gas chamber state
washington state
What's some of your favorite /out/ approved kinos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OivMlWXtWpY
Death Hunt - Charles Bronson, Lee Marvin
>>2867908The Bear fucks him
What's the highest mountain in your country/state? Do you feel jealous of places with higher mountains?Mountains in Poland are fun but the highest one (picrel) is 2499 m, which is much lower than Alps. Moreover, highest mountains in Poland are often quite crowded. This makes some Poles jealous of poeple who live near Alps.I'm 99.9% sure people who live in flat countries like Lithuania feel jelous about our mountains but I wonder if people who live in mountains like Alps or Rockies feel jealous anout Himalayas or Andes.
>>2865685kek>>2865690>i'm in spain, which i guess isn't so bad because it has a few with more than 3k meters but they are all 8 hour drives from where i live so it's fucking bullshit.That's not bad at all. Road trips are fun af. I'm in southern California and I do 10 hour drives to get to Shasta / Lassen / Lake Tahoe every summer. 12 hours to get to Crater Lake.
I've lived in Colorado for a few years but done very little hiking. No more than 2500ft of elevation gain and all below 10k ft. Want to try and do some 14ers this year. Started running at the beginning of the year to improve my cardio and am down about 30lbs. Any recommendations on hikes to start with and general advice?
>>28655373,491 feet / 1,064 meters for the appropriately named land of the hills. i do not feel mountain envy because i enjoy living in a coastal plain and visiting the mountains, which are readily accessible. i also don't care if east coast mountains are typically smaller. my platonic ideal of outdoor adventure is to explore the magnificent beach forests, not reach the highest point
yeah southern ontario fucking sucks
Last fall I "climbed" Viennas highest elevation, the Hermannskogel (544m above sea level). There is an observation tower, and it's also the point of origin of the austro-hungarian empires land survey.
humiliation ritual
>>2869028>Do bears live there?In the alpine? Yes.
>>2868914KEK
>>2868900Struggling with rope is the humiliation ritual.
I'm glad that my ancestors have genocided the past bear population where I live
>>2869032>not practicing the bear trianglesomeone doesn’t go outside
German anon here. Tomorrow, I will be heading to Decathlon to buy some hiking gear. I have never properly gone hiking before - at most, I have gone on 3-4 hour walks on forest trails. I will mainly be hiking in spring and autumn, and occasionally in summer, depending on the weather. Terrain wise, I will be mainly hiking in rather hilly areas with a few hundred meters of elevation, and more flat areas from time to time. I would also love to camp for a night or two while I'm at it, but if that's too much (budget wise), we can just stick with hiking gear for now.
>>2861316Get some workhorse alluminium poles, some trekking shoes, i saw some quechua/simond knock offs of scarpa's mojito shoes, they work great if you ain't a fat ass that needs extra padding on the foot, some basic bitch running shorts unless insects are a bother to you, a technical shirt, a fanny pack for essentials, maybe a runner vest if you think fanny packs are gay, and a 20lt backpack for any gay shit you want to bring along.And that is more than enough for day hikes, maybe even overkill depending on what you're doing.>t.did 4000nds during summer with similar setups.
>>2861410>decathlon is upping their gameEhhh the one in my town is always fucking bare and the options are kinda limited, i went there yesterday to get some basic bich items and they didn't had none of them, not even soft flasks, so they either have hoarder problems or they just plain fucking sucks
>>2865335>>2865382>1712km and 15h18mshe didn't realize america was a trainlet country
>>2861316Ask a worker there for help, Decathlon's client service is impeccable and you will find someone more trustworthy there than any anon on this board.
>this whole threadexplains the german tourist phenomena perfectly
Finally making it to California for 2 weeks next month to do some of their national parks. I've done 28/63 parks so far so I've been to a few, anything that's a must see/do? I already booked a ferry for the Channel Islands but that's all I've got so far.I planned on hitting up Channel islands, Joshua Tree, Death Valley, Kings Canyon and Sequoia. Any advice appreciated! Pic is a photo of Bryce Canyon I took last year
>>2867637If you booked Scorpion on Santa Cruz change it to Prisoners which is much less busy and has more vegetation, prettier views, etc. Unless you really want beach access or to look at historic buildings. Wear an /out/ themed patch if you have one I work for the boat
>>2867688Dude right on thanks for the advice I switched my booking to prisoners that sounds much more inline with what I'm looking for I'll put my /out/ patch on my backpack! Your a real one bud cheers
>>2867546It all depends on what you like to do. There’s a difference from walking around between the gift shops and museums and never leaving the 8ft wide trails, and hiking, climbing, backpacking and exploring. Like, how many miles can you hike in a day? At elevation? Up steep terrain? All pertinent information. I’ve been just about everywhere.
>>2867546>Joshua TreeBoring>Death ValleyMostly Boring>Kings CanyonActually enjoyable and fun>SequoiaIt's fine, but overpacked for most of the good trails>>2867584>YosemiteOne of the most overrated parks
>>2869051Yosemite by far is the most impressive park in the US. I sp calls if you go outside the valley and visit other areas inside the park like Tuolumne meadows. If you’re a rock climber, it is literally Mecca!
