How's everyone going preparing for winter /out/? What are the best (and affordable) silvers you'd recommend?
>>2774558Decathlon fleece thermal underlayer that goes by the wedze moniker
>>2774558Milsurp waffle jammies.
>>2774616are those better than whalmart whaffle jammies? because I bought those and I swear they made me feel colder
>>2774618You may find that synthetic base layers which wick away sweat very quickly may feel colder. It is possible you are already too warm and sweating, and your outer layer may not be blocking any wind. Natural fibers do tend to feel warmer against the skin for most people, so you may try a wool or merino-synthetic blend.
>>2774558Just going to pick up some microspikes and waterproof shoes for the occasional snow we get here in the south, I'm plenty warm enough in my 20F bag and puffy even with shorts
>>2774558I just wear sweatpants underneath my pants when it gets really cold. Well and appropriate socks.
I wear Ouruikia thermals but the sizing's off. I ordered the extra large but the pouch is way too small.
I wish we could see what outtards looked like in their undies:(
>>2774774do you wear them backwards and use the pouch as a fecie catcher
>>2774558https://liquidlogickayaks.com/products/ir-k2-union-suit-xlarge-carbon?variant=47388653519053
I don't wear winter clothing, I'm a hotbody
>>2774791You're shit at wishing anon.
>>2774900we had an out underwear thread last year and anon posted his red trunks and he had huge balls so there's precedent
>>2774558Best and affordable are often unrelated when it comes to base layers. The best ones are thick merino wool, but good luck finding deals on those.>>2774876You're a lives in a warm/moderate climate body. No one escapes the laws of thermodynamics.
i cannot use the waffles to move, I feel too hot, even in -10/15C of just wearing the top I felt too hot and had to put a shirt back on
Can't wait. Last winter I tried using a [thin] blanket between the rain fly and the tent and it worked pretty nice. Pic related tent is a 3 season so it's mostly mesh and the blanket cut down the draft and made it darker inside, very comfy. Couple extra pounds in the sled but I think it's worth it for short runs at least. We usually do short walk ins when the snow is deep so luxury items like chairs and extra blankets aren't a big deal.
I've have good experiences with dilling merino. Also have some woolpower 200 but never used them, it just doesn't get that cold any more over here.
>>2774558>silversYou made my day anon, I always wonder how many of us there are left here.
>>2775076we may never know
Last winter my mum bought me a McKinley merino underlayer from a sale. It's been pretty good. I'd love to own something like picrel, though, but I've got no idea where I could shop for one.
>>2774558Fishnets (specifically functional ones like Brynje or similar). Dries quick, wicks away moisture, keeps warm if covered with something windproof.Though I wish I had thought of that when I was going through the rain and snow today.
>people still sleeping on the best baselayer for outdoorsISHYGDDT
>>2775077It might just be us based geeps poster
>>2775262I did this and my group started calling me fishnet. They really do work though
>>2775262this for bottoms, polartech alpha direct longsleeve on top like a senchi or whoever sells them
>>2775392did they penus in your but?I would if I found someone wearing fishnets at camp
>>2774558
>>2774558Why do americans call them long john silvers?
>>2774558Something +90% polypropylene
>>2776153everyone calls them long johns and there is a restaurant in America called long John silvers..... a joke is born.
>>2776744isn't there also a gay lingerie company that makes like long johns with exaggerated penis pouches that's also called that
>>2776744Its not a joke, its a regionalizm , many places call them long john silvers after the pirate that wore them He is also who the restaruant is named after
>>2777007ö
>>2777028I dont know what that means
>>2777080I was seeing if a vertical :O would go over. but get it we're not ready for that yet
>>2777084Never do that again.
>>2777087okay º^º
>>2777090are you a geeps poster?
swedish woolpower, expensive up front but very durable, so not actually expensive.
>>2777190enjoy being the itchiest man alive
>>2777180
>>2777227I knew it was you!
>>2777241
>>2777080>>2777084holy shityeahdon't do that again:lmao:
>>2777252ºnº
OKAY what do you guys think of 100% merino wool vs. 50/50 wool/acrylic for thermal layers?I really like 100% wool for next-to-skin, what I'm looking at would probably be a secondary layer, but definitely not the outermost layer. The inclusion of synthetics improves durability but reduces its versatility from what I've experienced-- that is, wool keeps you comfortable at a very wide range of temperatures before you need to pull layers off, while the mixed stuff is warm and strong but needs to be pulled off quickly if you step into a warmer area. What are your thoughts?
>>2774826>90% polyester>$150
>>2777280It's specialty equipment not a basic bitch baselayer what are you expecting?
>>2777262wool is just going to make you itch
>>2777301How well you know that. Have you considered that not everyone is blessed with baby skin and/or wool allergy like you?
LONG JOHN SILVERS...... AWAY!!!!!!11!!!!
dall-e isn't quite understanding my prompts. was trying to make a long john silver mascot for this thread. either way enjoi
>>2777541Pretty cool campfire , fuck having a ring
some of those Long John Silvers pics from the old days would kind of show penus a little bit
>>2778025they would
>>2778025can um we see some pics of outists in their underwear where you can see penus a little bit...
I just inherited my grandfather's 70 year old wool olive drab blankets. So instead of buying anything with muh science fiber blends, I'm just gonna drape that shit all over my whole situation and be cozy as fuck this winter.
>>2778027that sounds pretty gay to be quite honest with you anon
>>2777262Okay I ordered the 50/50 stuff since /out/ was useless and it was $100 cheaper for the set. I'll update you when I can test it, or maybe I won't since /out/ is useless.
>>2778034based
Winter enjoyers are so stupid yeah lemme put on 50 layers of clothes so it doesn't feel like I'm dying the second I step outdoors. In summer I can just get progressively more naked the hotter it is an its fucking based. Humans should not be living in northern climates.
>>2778155you don't find winter magical or special at all anon? are you dead inside?
>>2778155>it's cold outside>wear some warm clothes>it's warm>it's hot outside>wear only the minimum you need >it's still hot
>>2778155>Humans should not be living in northern climates.And what'cha gonna do when they do? Then come to colonize your soft southern ass? What then huh?
>>2778155>so it doesn't feel like I'm dying the second I step outdoorsThat's the point though. Just being a man against hostile nature, relying on his gear and fitness to stay alive. Even when I just hiked 5 miles into the forest, it felt magical. I say felt because we don't have that kind of winter here anymore. Barely goes below freezing these days.
>>2778155Bullshit, you either don't go /out/ at all or you're a car camper. There's not that many items of clothing to take off so there's no 'progressively more naked', and you're conveniently leaving out how that exposes you to ticks and mosquitoes.I can always put on an extra layer in winter, but once you're down to the bare minimum in summer you're done for.
>>2778198I go out on nice 90 degree days to do elevation hikes with no shirt an short shorts on I love the skeeters I love the ticks they are my lil buddies who remind me of the abundant amount of life in the woods its exciting everything's active an breathing.
>>2774792Million dollar idea
>>2774558Sewed my own at about 3.50 per pair and about 4.50 for the silk waffle ones. The afternoon making a pattern was the best investment I ever spent. Never paying 15-20 for long johns ever again.
>>2775262Mesh socks under polyester or wool socks changed my life
>>2778155
>>2778285talk to me about thisfirst ive heard, are they much warmer that way?
>>2774558I LIVE IN HOT HELL! so a light parka at worst.
>>2778155Idk I can only get so naked, and only so naked before the cops show up and ruin my good time
>>2778361It's not so much that they're warmer, it's that they wick water away better so that your feet stay drier and warmer when doing excercise outside in the winter. If your feet are going to stay dry it doesn't matter but if you know you're going to be managing temperature by removing and putting on layers it really helps.
>>2778155delete this
>>2778440I am usually able to keep my feet dry so probably not something I needThanks
I got the level 4 under armor thermals on clearance- they're a really weird cut
>>2775076>>2775316come to think of it pretty sure skiddo and bebsi are still here, in the fish threads at least
>>2778155>it doesn't feel like I'm dying the second I step outdoors.That only happens in the summer.
>>2775709>I wouldYou do it even to men not wearing fishnets.
>>2778614I miss the old days
>>2774558personally, i like alpha fleece or netted underlayers like what brynje offers. waffle shit sucks and keeps me less warm than my fleece
>>2778769Me too anon, for a number of reasons. One of them is that now I'm a citydwelling salary earner and my /out/ isn't as carefree and spontaneous as it used to be, and that has the flow-on effect of not enjoying the board as much as I used to. I don't have a hundred new pics to share every week, I'm not looking for new equipment or trying out new things all the time. I'm trying to refocus but I'm in a pivotal point in my career and need to excel at work for the time bean.https://youtu.be/6I_YAkFk3V0?si=gMSxAp0b3RZUfEmS
>>2775037>>2775045>>2775046this shit is the perfect combination of comƒy and uncomƒy that makes winter camping so much fun
>>2778790Man I wrote lyrics to that song and uploaded a tom waits style vocaroo for a thread we were having back then.We used to do so much cool shit here.
>>2778818is this it anon? I don't know if this one's it, there were a couple made at the timehttps://clyp.it/mco3j2c5
>>2778820that one is awesome, one of the very best.mine was male, deep voice , different lyrics. Pretty sure its gone forever It stayed up for about a year I think
>>2778822I think I remember it but it's been so long it's hard to tell. it's a shame it's been pulled. I had a TON of clyps go missing because they changed their policy and removed everything that wasn't on a confirmed account.enjoy this one though that's still up from some long-lost anon:https://clyp.it/mvtt1oqy
>>2778822oh also this one still exists. at some point I lost the plot and overlayed geeps floote with the ET theme and it actually worked, kekhttps://youtu.be/w0gXSSwvZf4?si=z-fx5olIEvr40qCc
>>2778446heh. saved
>>2778825Oh my god thats so gay
>>2778926
what other meme threads can we bring back?Thermos?
>>2774558man I am pretty simple, I wear tactical insulated pants (yes, I like tactic pants), a winter parka, because of where I live (oymiakon) temperatures drop to -40c to -60c, so on winter we use balaclavas, gloves, two socks on each feet, boots, glad I dont use glasses because they can stick to your skin, my winter clothing is composed of:IMPACT boot from baffinguide gloves from black diamondFjallraven M’s Polar Expedition Parkaa black balaclavaI also like to carry things I might use in a case of being outside on a snowstorm like a flashlight, a screwdriver and a tactic knife
benis
>>2779307show benis poking out of underwear
I dont know if Im missing something but heres my problem:>its winter>go outside>hmm i still feel fine>30 min later>ok my toes are numb and my fingers move in slow motion no problem though haha>ok my toes are starting to hurt now>ok my hands are starting to hurt now>holy fucking shit thats painful>jesus fucking christ please kill me to release me of this fucking torment>get inside>heat up>HOLY FUCK MY FINGERS AND TOES>GOD PLEASE KILL ME ALREADY>WHY IS THIS SO PAINFUL>go to doctors, ask if its reynauds>its not>?????????????is it because I dont layer at all? I just wear regular pants, underwear, a shirt and a jacket and thats it. Am I missing something? Why cant I do anything outside in the colder months without wanting to fucking kms. And no, im not exaggerating or being a pussy, the pain I get in my fingers and toes when its colder than say 0 °C is fucking insane and the worst pain I have experienced in my life.I have to figure out a way to deal with the cold and I don't know how... /out/ veterans, please help!
>>2779382dude, you can get a frostbite, you dont need specifically layering to heat up, altough if you are on a budget its very good, is you aren't then you can just buy like very thick clothing and like, use a glove and a mitten above the glove, not too thick gloves to supress mobilityalso in the case you feel your hands hurting from cold, lit up a fire and put your hand as close as you can to it before it hurts and wait
>>2779382Here in Finland it is not unheard of people starting to wear long johns when it stays under 0°C constantly. If you are being static (sitting/laying down for longer periods of time), then wearing long johns or even quilted trousers and a quilted jacket is not unreasonable at over 0°C either. Anyways, I would recommend you to invest in decent midlayer and good warm boots for winter. Cold feet means cold body. A decent midlayer will keep your body warmer, meaning that your extremities will stay warmer as well. Also, get yourself a wool cap for colder seasons. Also make sure your throat stays warm. And the pain is due to your cold extremities getting warmer again. You might have gotten a frostbite. During my conscription I got a frostbite in my big toe due to laying in a foxhole for several hours in one wargame with not enough clothing. My feet were so cold that I was barely able to walk, I did not have any sensation in them at all up to the knees. When in static activities, a lot of warm clothing>midlayer>quilted jacket and trousers>good warm mittensWhen on the move, have enough clothing to feel cold when stationaryTLDR:You are miserable because you are not wearing warm enough clothing.
>>2779308false
>>2779522we're the finns we're the finns
>>2779562I heard you guys play penus butt at school
I don’t think there was a silvers thread last season. It’s nice to return to tradition.>>2775262I saw some cheap mesh base layers at a workwear store, they might be gaining in popularity.I use cheap surplus base layers because I’m a fatfuck losing weight and don’t want to spend money on something that won’t fit in a while. I do have some Beyond brand surplus grid fleece that’s pretty good.
>>2780138>It’s nice to return to tradition.agreedAlso good luck with your weight loss.>Former fat fuck here who lost weight hiking like mad and doing the 5;2 diet
its getting pretty chilly guys
amazon link to some cheap but good mesh silvers?
I'm winter hiking for the first time this season. Temperatures will probably be 20-40F most of the time where I'm at. I'm just wondering how much the heat from the physical exertion of hiking 8-10 miles will offset the cold temperatures. Doing these hikes spring-fall i often have to change my shirt from the sweatis a balaclava overkill for this kind of activity? I'll be outside 3-6 hours. Definitely getting thick socks, thermal underwear, gloves and spikes. I also have trekking poles but I hate carrying them. Is it retarded to go without them in winter?
>>2781009>is a balaclava overkill for this kind of activityYes, unless you are especially sensitive in the face or something. A hat and neck gaiter are sufficient and more flexible.>getting thick socksConsider that your shoes need to provide space for them. Hope you have dedicated waterproof boots.
>>2775262I cant for the fucking life of me find a site or store for that matter that sells these. I live in the netherlands anyone from here or europe that knows a site?
bought a carinthia gore-tex bivvy second hand and I already have a sleeping bag,now that my sleeping system is all set i just need some winter clothes. what do /out/ists recommend? In a perfect world Id get the full ECWCS system but I live in the netherlands and I cant find that shit here anywhere
>>2781014thanks for the reply. I do own hiking boots but the soles are wearing out so I need to replace them before winter. I think I'm going to purchase some hiking socks beforehand so I can wear them to the store when I'm trying them on. I'm definitely getting at least a half size bigger because the shoes I have now will fuck my feet up if I don't use thin socks with them.
I will need at least one new set of silvers this yearwhat should I go for?
Long John SILVERS I L V E R S
>>2780973Amazon does not carry this stuff . try siera tradding company
>>2777007A fish resturant named for a pirate?
Stocking up here. Maples good.
>>2782247maple silvers?
>>2774558Mini greenhouse reinforced and roof design changed to be easier to open and close. I lined the bottom edge with thermal blankets. Bucket of hot water kept in the center and refilled daily after it gets below freezing to help maintain the temperature. I have some tropical plants so we'll see if I can keep them at least not dead until spring.
>>2781055Check if you have wide feet. I found out I was fucking up by buying a larger size instead of looking for wide shoes in a size that fit better
100% merino woolI may some day get myself viking age wool clothes but I am afraid that those will become my cabin clothes.Wool is comfy.My cabin clothes are basically wool and milsurp.
>>2782563wool is incredibly itchy
>>2782564You get used to it.
>>2782567I don't think I ever would! I prefer cotton.
>>2782569NGMI
>>2782564not the same as the other wool anon but it really isnt that bad youre just a pussy ass little bitch boi. i wear 100 percent wool underwear, shirts, pants sweaters, etc all the time and i am comfy in wet weather and not itchy
>>2782564actually ill agree with you to a point. shit quality recycled wool blends are itchy. there.
>>2774558normal cloths. If you're moving and in sunlight you will stay warm. You only need base layers if you plan on sitting still or under tree cover with trails that require little effort.
>>2777245man, the makings of these images were so based
>>2777262cotton blend if its kind of coldpolar fleece if its colder than -30cwhen it gets really cold, -30 and colder, its all about keeping drywool makes a shitty base layer
>>2778541this guys rightif your only outside for a few hours, or its not that cold it doesnt matterbut if its very cold or your out all day, the accumulated sweat will make you miserablei work outside in canada, i only wear leather work boots, even in -40c, and its because i dont use natural base layers and i keep my feet bone dry by drying my boots every night and changing my socks a few times a day
goddon gills
>>2778933geeps poster do you geeps post on other boards:"?
>>2783868I do not actually. I don't know why but I do not.
>>2782703those were exciting days anon. the board was really busy, there were so many fresh threads and discussion and it was all new. not the stale repetitive routine it is now
>>2775177Genuinely looks like some Eastern Bloc surp baselayer. Not something I commonly find in my local surplus stores but not unheard of. Beware the Romanian jackets; fucking impossible to de-stink and the liner is made from those scrap fiber/string trimmings junk that car insulation, homeless/emergency blankets, etc. are made from and there's no backing so it just fucking falls apart if washed on its own, or even in the jacket.>>2775262Anon is ready to go to the local rave tonight.
>>2778034Have to be careful washing them especially if they have a lot of damage. I knew someone who would wash them with dissolving detergent sheets/strips (made for wool) but I forget what setting, probably gentle. You can also hand wash. Drying them IMO hang dry only in a way that doesn't stretch them weirdly. Otherwise the fluff comes out in the dryer, you enlarge a bunch of holes, and end up having a repair kit just on the edge of being ready to repair those holes for years, not like I'd know. But mine smelled like mothballs when I found it and it was free. Probably hadn't been washed in 40 years or more so it needed it bad.>>2778155Summer enjoyers are so stupid yeah lemme put on polyester underwear, polyester shorts, and a polyester shirt so I can barely stand the heat the second I step outdoors and then get skin cancer from all the UV when I forget to slather myself in zinc paste and get Lyme (as well as a list of other diseases from mosquitos) when I forget to slather myself in DEET or Permethrin and forget I can't wear short sleeves because of the bugs anyways. In Fall and Winter I can just progressively put more clothes on the colder it gets and it's fucking based that no one else wants to deal with the weather and I have it all to myself. Humans should not be living in hot climates.>>2778284How'd you make a pattern? I'm highly interested in making my own hunting clothes and making patterns would help a lot.>>2779382Layer and keep moving. IIRC my first layer is pretty much always underarmor top and bottom, then a thin layer: thermal shirt and pants, then snow pants and snow jacket. Also look into heated clothes, especially gloves and jacket. I know, I know, "gay", but I worked a lot outside and often hunt outside in the dead of winter and it helps a lot without layering so much that you're constantly putting on and taking off layers. That being said I need to find my gloves. Also get good boots, mylar insoles, and double up socks IIRC.
>>2783909I wish we could go back
I am heading to walmart of friday to get some nice silevers as its getting chilli Any advice??
Is cotton ok?
>>2774558I like Uniqlo. It's not high end tech wear, just "fashion" brand - but it's relatively cheap and warm. Not best for long active activities, but I needed something to sit around campsite in and it does the job.
>>2781024Svala makes them but they are a bit pricey.https://svala.com/en/product-category/men/tops-men/underlayer-shirts-men/
>>2774558Wow, I like that clothing. Where I can buy?
>>2784904Wet cotton sucks. If there's a chance you'll get wet, and you don't have a way to change clothes or get to a heated room, avoid it.
These 100% wool tops are on a very good sale from Sierra Trading Post right now, the MSRP on the tag is $100. I bought 5, I am a geologist who works outside. I think they're 250g/m^2 when comparing them to the ones on Backcountry. The style from the link below has small-2XL in stock, there are some other comparable ones besides the 2 in my picrel.https://www.sierra.com/smartwool-uni-thermal-pattern-base-layer-top-merino-wool-long-sleeve~p~3vpmm/?filterString=s~mens-smartwool%2F
>>2782569Cotton is fine until you sweat. Personally i wear wool undies because i get swamp ass like a mofo. If you dont keep your buttocks hairless it shouldnt itch
>>2785369bring a couple changes of shirt with you
>>2785083Getting wet when out is not an option no matter what you wear
>>2785428Oh look at you, Mr. "I always wear the exact amount of clothing to not get sweaty during activity", Mr. "I invented the perfect waterproof-breathable fabric and share it with noone".
>>2785430its called layering
>>2785431It's called lieing.
>>2785432noone is lieing to you
>>2775005>You're a lives in a warm/moderate climate body. No one escapes the laws of thermodynamics.When I was younger, more athletic, and eating a lot more food I didn't need to dress as warmly and used to impress people with my cold tolerance. Now I'm old and lazy with a slower metabolism with a warmer wardrobe. It's very possible Anon is correct in his assessment and has the right mix of youth, genetics, and lifestyle to get through winter without what normal people would consider winter clothing.
>>2785437no, everyone has the same
>>2785437I used to be similar. I would never cold in my 20s. My GF would be have 2 sweaters on and a scarf and gloves and I'd be sitting next to her in a t-shirt. At some point in my 30s this stopped being the case.>winter without what normal people would consider winter clothing.I'm guessing you live somewhere that doesn't have a real winter.
>>2785653>I'm guessing you live somewhere that doesn't have a real winter.Depends on how you define real winter and define winter clothing. I've done dayhikes and trail running barefoot in shirtless in the snow in the mild parts of winter (roughly +15F to +32F) and I've worn what most people would consider autumn clothing in -20F weather. I've been outside all day close to -40F but was wearing reasonable winter clothes for that (but still less than most of my coworkers).
What are some good boots for winter, need some for walking
why doesnt this thread halloween?
>>2785686Depends.>InsulationHow cold is it and how easily do your feet get cold. I use common, slightly padded leather boots with wool socks down to -10°C hiking, the same setup I use for summer really. Other people start freezing their feet off once it goes below +10 and need specially insulated boots.>WaterproofnessHow often do you get snow melting on your feet, how often do you walk through puddles. Leather or goretex for lower waterproof needs, rubber boots for lots of water. In very cold conditions, the snow doesn't even melt and you can go with non-waterproof boots but that's a niche.
>>2785836Refresh the page if you had it open before halloween or toggle the style to "Special."
>>2785869I will refresh your moms flithy vagootis
are flannels good for the cold months?how do I style them? never use them, I'm from the south
>>2786273>how do I style them?wat?
>>2786279it's more of a /fa/ questionI want boots that look nice and are useful for light hiking in the fall
>>2786448wait wrong thread, I mean the flannel
I feel this thread is for homo that looks at wieners
>>2786983but anon that's the whole website
>>2786986false, this is a hetero board
How many days in a row can you wear silvers without them getting smelly?This is with normal underwear under the silvers
>>2786983post more weiners bulging out of flannel
>its cold out>do physical activity>heat upI don't get the whole clothing thing. Even skiing in sub 0 F temperatures, soaking wet and I was still warm. I really think you people ought to just fix your metabolisms
>>2787169Acryl, or polyester? About 2-3 days at mostWool? 2-3 weeks if you don't sweat into them, or 1-2 weeks if you do. The thing is, even if you do sweat into them, so long they are stored dry and ventilated over night it doesn't accumulate or get worse.
>>2787307Wool's wicking ability is unbelievable. I genuinely felt betrayed after my first experience of wearing a cable knit sweater, getting soaked from sweat and condensation, still being warm throughout my entire activity, then it DRYING on its own overnight. What the fuck is the point of synthetic materials anyway? Wax works as a windbreaker, thank you
>>2787312Yes, but:1. Cumulative shrinking when washing, a complete PITA to reverse 2. Thin and non itchy == SHIT durability But yes, Polyester is mostly the devils work. Nothing like having a T-shirt that can only be used for a few hours before being forced to wash it before it starts developing smells.And thats true, even if I like my Adidas 3 layer shorts.
>>2787323>a complete PITA to reverseHow do you reverse it?
>>2787330I work itI put my thing down flip it and reverse Is it worth it?
>>2787323My merino wool socks don't have any permanent shrink after a delicate machine wash, hung dry. Do one load of all of them every 1~2 months. Minimal effort. I don't wash my wool outerwear.
>>2774558on a budget get surplus ecwcs thermalsif you're spending money get mesh baselayers it sounds counter intuitive but they keep you warmer. militaries are switching over to it and so am i once you try it out you realize how shitty woven baselayers are. mesh ones are also WAY more durable albeit less repairable.>>2775255>>2775262this.>>2774638trust me on this hillsound trail crampons are way better than microspikes. me hike a lot of mountains in trail runners. same thing just made of better metal that doesn't need sharpening nearly as much. similar price the couple bucks is big worth. >>2774907>underwearby the way most merino underwear is superwash treated and coated in plastic. and it loses most of its traits.europeans can get virgin wool underwear from dillard's and i don't think anyone sells them in the states.
>>2785661why lie on the internet?
>>2787398I grew up athletic and outdoorsy in a cold place and then took a winter construction job in an even colder place. Nothing I claimed is unreasonable for someone young, healthy, and acclimated to the cold.
>>2781009>is a balaclava overkill for this kind of activity?For sure. Even at 20 degrees as long as you keep moving your gonna stay warm. I like a hat with ear flaps if you have one. Wind chill is also something to think about if you're going above the treeline. Bring your poles and remeber to hike cold, sweat is a killer.
What's the lowdown on buying older used gear? There's a nice set of Lowa boots in my size that I could pick up for about $100 but the seller claims they're over a decade old. Allegedly only used for one season to climb rainier.
>>2787375>and it loses most of its traits.I don't believe that. Indeed most merino is superwash, so the reputation it gets must be mostly based on superwash merino, not on the rare non superwash kind.>>2787455Old boots, rarely used, they may very well have hydrolysis and crumble on your first hike.
>>2787465>may very well have hydrolysis and crumble on your first hike.Is there a non-destructive way to recognize if they're fucked? It's an ebay listing and I can always return them if I need to but I don't wanna open myself up to a denial if they're completely destroyed.>>2787375>hillsound trail crampons are way better than microspikesI've never had any problems with my kahtoolas, but I've heard that the hillsounds get fouled up easier. The consensus I found was that kahtoolas are better for warmer mixed terrain where the snow can be soft and ball up on the bottom plate of hillsound and the hillsounds are better for cold dry conditions where you're going through ice and powder.
>>2787330>>2787369My wool Knitted turtle neck sweater got permanent shrinking after I forgot to stretch it out after washing ONCE.Reverse seem to involve buying special chemicals or just super plain condition, hand washing lightly, and then try to stretch it ,and repeat a few times. A gigantic PITA, mostly because telling if you stretched is really hard, is is getting back the volume, and its really heavy since its complete saturated with water and conditioner. >merino wool socksI got those as well. As well as merino silvers The socks did shrink about half a EU size on first wash. The silvers where similar, but the stretch joint in feet, waist and around the ground made it seem quite a bit tighter.
>>2787475Bubba if it shrinks you're washing it incorrectly. Unless it's stated on the label, always by hand in cold water with a drop of specific wool detergentGood video about it: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ozKDpYfyZcIf the wool is machine washable use a wool cycle and some specific product as before. Are you a zoomer? You ought to thank god for protectors of handicapped youth, like myself (am the protector).
>>2787479*unless it's stated otherwise on the label
>>2787479>shrinks you're washing it incorrectlyWhich also usually means>Anything but handwashing results in the cloth shrinking Or>Machine washable with wool cycle. but has to be stretched while its still wet Still better than trying to keep white cloth white.
>>2787605>has to be stretched while its still wetshould you wear whett whool to prevent this? it sounds super uncomfortable but maybe actually a good way to keep it fitting properly, especially if you're just doing this a couple or few times a year
>>2787605>>2787607No bubba, normal people don't "stretch" their wool LMFAO. Some wool is treated to be machine-washable. TOPKEK the crap I read here everyday.
>>2787615>Some woolwhat about the rest of the whool
>>2787617You wash it by hand or dry clean it. Nobody stretches wool. Just pay attention to put it in shape- which doesn't mean stretching -while it's drying, any crease will be retained once dry.
>>2787628>any crease will be retained once dryergo, if it dries on your body it's perfect
>>2787173no
>>2787629it will show the crees of your flithy vagootis
>>2788059>unintelligible mutt speak This board is an embarrassment to itself.
>>2788065You are the embarassment of your moms fihole
>>2778198You can always get thinner
>>2775037>>2775045Damn I was just complaining about the cold air in my shitty tent in some other thread and you gave me an idea. Does blanket material matter? What did you use?Also what foods and drinks did you bring, I'm curious what winter campers generally eat.
>>2788187>I'm curious what winter campers generally eatI do know that eskimos eat mostly bloober so maybe some fatty ass foods?
>>2788084Dont you dare to shame me , you have not lived a mile in my shoe
>>2787629>>2787607So in your wordsWhat do you think >Machine washable with wool cycle. but has to be stretched while its still wetmeans?Thin socks and baselayer do shrink, insignicantly. But knitted stuff is going to shrink as much as 10-20x as the thin stuff. Its not a lot either, but it do mean you can forget to stretch it, and after 2-3 washes the arms are glued on to the skin, or the neck is wrong.>>2787615>normal people don't "stretch" their woolDepends on what you got.Felt needs to be handwashed, to avoid ruining the shape. Agitation and rinsing has practically zero shrinking. Merino stuff is already pre shrinked when you buy it. So silvers and base layers and necks... except the seams shrink a little each machine cycle.Duvets and blankets shirnk A LOT if you machine wash them. Stretching IS mandatoryBut i still find thick knitted socks the most annoying. IF you machine wash them, they shrink on the wear spots. Once the wear spot is partially trough, its just going to accelerate the wear.
>>2788268we've got work to do
>>2784173>How'd you make a pattern?Duplicated a pair I already liked (three piece, two legs and gusseted crotch) Made a pair out of scrap material. Adjusted the pattern and made a pair out of good material. Adjusted the pattern again. Done.Big thing for me was professional seams without a $200 overlocker machine. Use a cheap overcast foot on my regular machine instead.Started making more complex things too. This winter was a wool coat with hood and thick quilted silk inner. I couldn't find something like that in a store.
>>2788081Lad. No.
>>2788334false
>>2788316sewing is for girls
>>2782564in my experience 100% merino wool isn't
>>2788371no, also fags
>>2788553Then you'll both be experts at it.
>>2788372true its only mildly itchy
>>2788626no u
pick a merino baselayer, add either a down jacket by itself or a fleece ontop of the baselayer and a shell jacket, this pretty much covers all temperatures down to -20c, any lower and you need some more serious shit if hiking. for pants the same concept, lined pants if it's really cold. same for your feet, merino is love merino is life.
