Why do you "need" permits for the JMT and how are they actually enforced?
>>2847450this is actually a good answer
>>2847478>>2847485Thanks. I wrote both those posts.
The US should target 250 million as a goal stable population. Once we went over that mark, things started to get overcrowded everywhere.
>>2847492I agree. Please kill yourself right now so that I can go camping without reservations in state parks and without seeing other people. >>2847485>>2847487I'm going to need you two to also off yourselves. For environmental conservation and for peace in the outdoors.
>>2847495I'm in a rustbelt state. We're already doing our part. Clean out California, Texas, and New Jersey to get down to 250 million.
biological, geological, topographic, meteorological, oceanic, etc.
>>2845501Amazing to think that most Europeans can trace their chromosome back to the ballsack of an ancient Chinese man.
>>2847121calling them chinese is a stretch but i get your point lol
>>2842221>ms being reduced to the delta and memphisimagine the crime-rates
>>2839663Who makes a heatmap with red as the low and blue as the high?Also why is it changing size and color? Does size represent something different?
>>2847429Red = Danger, we have no food!
My kids saw a screech owl on my property so I thought he might want to have a place to call /in/Now I want to make houses for all my /out/door friends. Different birds, bats, friendly /out/door kitties, turtles?
I made it out of a 1" x 10" x 8' cedar board.
>>2847042Nice work anon.Closest I've got to that is buying one of those 'bee houses' but it didn't attract shit.
>>2847042That's a good chunk of my day job reholming creatures. Make some nice bat boxes. They really seem to go for them.
>>2847227Nice!My house has a 2 story rough stone face with a 1x4 trim piece at the eves. Bats get in between the trim and the stone where it's not flush. I'm going to build a bat house that fits the contour of the peak next. I also happened upon a copy of the bat house builders handbook. The rocket bat house intrigues me.
Hello /out/!Have any of you taken any outdoor courses of any discipline? I would be really interested in taking something that would be beneficial to outings like they experience on Alone, purely out of interest and curiosity. I'm a 30+ burger so I feel like I'm kinda too old for NOLS but any experiences you guys have would be interesting. Ran into a guy that did this, he had a lot of great things to say about ithttps://www.boss-inc.com/pages/program/primitive-skills
>>2845068I lived in SLC for three years and kept meaning to take a backcountry skiing/avi class but put it off too long and moved.
I'm totally going to take the beginner whitewater kayak course at the Bryson City NC NOC next year.
>>2845041enough to know they are a waste of time and money>>2845066group settings are ESPECIALLY a waste of time and money and solo training is just a cult of personality. its like religious teaching. if you have to pay for it, its probably no good..
>>2845110high school was a struggle for you, wasn't it
>>2847351high school is a tiny blip far in the distant past that meant nothing. referring to high school is a underage comment to make. you must be over 18 to use this forum.
What is the thinnest /out/ glove technology available today?
>>2847009shite
>>2847017Yes but I can’t really pull off the require leather vest with no shirt or the ass-less chaps that the other village people homo uniform requires
>>2847113kek
>>2846972If you want light/thin, talk to the ULfags who don't brandwhore too hard about it. Skurka recommended SHOWA 282-02 with your choice of liner. I ordered a pair; durable, waterproof, grippy, thin enough to feel things well; almost like they were meant for holding on to a pissed off crab in a winter storm.
>>2846992>Thought about trying out latex gloves under tight knitted wool glovesWhat do you think the function of those wool gloves is?
Just ordered the largest head mounted umbrella I could find. Are they any good?
It came, we saw, he died.
>>2844006>gust of wind>neck status: broken
>>2847273They better send it with a warning or else I'll come to America, get moderate whiplash at my leisure (probably while fishing), and then sue them for damages. This is my big ticket into the land of the free baby I can feel it.
>>2844010samefucking kek'd at the flat .jpg water on the umbrella
I need a very simple headlamp with a single function that can be very easily turned on and offNo flash mode, no dimmer, no red light, no other bullshit.I need a single light function and a very simple on/off switch with no stupid modes in between. preferably a slider switch.Show me what you got
>>2842142It really seems impossible. I have NEVER seen one. Everything has multiple light modes.
>>2845444Do those take 18650 batteries? And does it have a redlight feature?. I specifically like the one on the left since it has the middle strap
>>2841602Use this with a simple clicky
This one is no bullshit. See the 2 buttons? The first one is just a simple "on/ON/off" function with no flashing bullshit. Bright, very bright, off. Then the second button has all that other shit. I will say that the red light is good because i can walk around pretty well in the dark while also being a lot more hard to see by others, just a dim red light pointing out the immediate lanscape.
My headlamp is ON only for simplicity.
i have always found these to be really comforting, romantic and aesthetic
>>2847254Tbh it's telling that you couldn't post your own picture
>>2847254duuuude!! it's like a vibration!! it's such a vibration!!!! shut the fuck up you illiterate faggot.
Is there a more boring ecosystem out there?
it's not as nice as moist temperate broadleaf forests, that's for darn sure!
>>2846766Yes. Pic relatedFuck trees. Cut trees down and turn them into meadows and savannas and wetlands.
>>2846889>Fuck treesOnly between November and April. Rest of the year is fine, with October being the greatest. Picrel is from this afternoon.
>>2846889based, grassland is bestland
Best way to /out/ in winter is ski touring. Prove me Wrong>most efficient form of mountain transport >Fun as fuck on the downhill>Cost of touring setup and avy gear keeps the poors out>High fitness and skill requirements keep the /in/lets out>Faster, easier and more fun that snowshoes on the way up>Powder skiing on the way down>No trails needed to get up the mountain, meters of snow cover all bush and vegation so you can pick whatever path you want>no rock fall >snowpacks are incredibly complex and interesting to learn about >spatial distribution of snowpack variability in mountains makes for constant intellectual game of knowing where risky/bad snow is and avoiding those areas>like hiking, but with way more thinking, and more independance>great workout>powder skiingComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2845062I want to go back
Skied a lot when I was younger and less poor. Tour'd a bit and had big dreams of being a guide or some bullshit but after I done my knee in I ended up giving it up. Its bonkers fun though, I think id be pretty broken now If I carried on anyway, but I regret not doing some ski trips since then.
>>2845976>>2846248Seconding the petzl ones with the cord, I have the irvis hybrid (steel frontpoints, aluminum backpoints) and a 330mm boot. The cord they come with stock isn't long enough for your boot so you'll need to buy an extra length of cord and tie em together. Petzl sells the cord by itself if you need to do this>>2846236admittedly, looks fun as fuck in steep and deep powder, but boarding is objectively a slower less efficient form of travel. I don't envy slowboarders whenever I see them flopping all over the place splitskiing the flats or spilling on icy skintrack without edges. >>2846249beauty
>>2846700>admittedly, looks fun as fuck in steep and deep powder, but boarding is objectively a slower less efficient form of travel. I don't envy slowboarders whenever I see them flopping all over the place splitskiing the flats or spilling on icy skintrack without edges.As a splitboarder I can confirm it's fun as fuck in steep and deep. But you're right it's much more inconvenient than skiis; transitioning the board and bindings takes me ten minutes and is kind of annoying in deep power. Then I watch ski tourers rip their skins off without taking off their skiis. All newer splits have edges on the inside and most bindings can fit crampons if it's icy so if they're flailing around they just suck.
I've only ever resort skiiedthis is probably a stupid question but how do you know there isn't a rock under a soft patch of snow that's gonna totally fuck your shit up
What are some /out youtubers that i can watch and learn from
>>2846215>>2846218>>2846230Those tits are bolted on, so that's gonna be a no from me, dawg.
>>2846186>>2846220Are you the same poster that shits up every thread with "muh nu-out"? Bro fuck off. If you hate the board that much then leave.
>>2846238It’s bait to watch the videos she’s fully clothed or 1st person most the time. It’s funny though so I subscribed,
>>2846349>It’s bait>so I subscribed
Not much to learn but I enjoy following this bloke. I enjoy the hobo/bum perspective.https://www.youtube.com/@KylePidduck
Look at this giant mushroom
Final one.
Rubroboletus eastwoodiae, satan's bolete
Another New captcha is fucking retarded.
>>2847094That looks cool, is it edible?
>>2847211Unfortunately, no, they are not. They're called satan's boletes because of the red color on the pore surface, but also because it's one of the boletes that will make you sick. They won't kill you or do any permanent damage, but they will cause gastric distress. I have read online that they can be eaten if par boiled and leached a few times. But I don't know anyone brave enough to put that to the test, including myself. And all of the books I have say to just avoid eating it.
>be me>plan to buy camper to live in friends backyard>midwest but i probably will not stay in it thru winterAnything I should lookout for? Obviously i want a maintained roof and no prior leaks. Im looking at 4-6000 campers right now and wondering if I might as well drop 8-12k I already have an outdoor kitchen,Maybe I will build a roof or porch for it. Any advice or considerations on buying and also living in an older camper?
>>2844081>>plan to buy camper to live in friends backyard Will you be paying your friend rent or utilities? Let's just say you will be paying your friend a few hundred bucks a month to park that POS eyesore on his property and connect to his utilities.That, combined with you spending $8k on a trailer, another few thousand fixing and maintaining it, and you are in rent territory with none of the benefit of an actual roof over your head. Unless you have some reason to live in a trailer (drugs, most likely), you can rent a room in a house with roommates for $600 a month, depending on the city, everything included. I don't know anything about the used trailer market, but I don't imagine those pieces of junk hold their value very well. You must really value privacy to make that tradeoff.
>>2844672>showersNo, is it better than lake baths in December?>>2844677>no benefitsCome back to me when you can use your imagination enough to name at least 2 benefits of living in a trailer in a back yard>roommatesThats enough of a reason to live in a trailer>>2844663>build carefullyYeah good point, ive been wondering about how adding crossmembers or something to really anchor the framing to the trailer deck
>>2844663>take it on the highwayA trailer house on the highway? That doesn't sound like a good idea, regardless of how it's built.
All i can say is make sure you have a way for proper ventilation and if possible create a positive pressure. Im surrounded by faggot cunt neighbors who burn wet wood and garbage year round and its been a nightmare keeping this thing properly insulated. I dont have time to do a full remodel of it so its had to do for now but fuck me man between that shit and the car exhaust make sure you are in a good spot away from stuff like that. Also these things act like giant tin cans and every low frequency sound for miles is going to travel through the ground and up through your camper. Put your camper near big trees and away from noise
>>2844723>lake bathsNobody wants your feces shitting up the local lakes
Hey /out/, what should I do if I get stung by a scorpion while camping? I’m often far from medical help, and they won’t sell me antivenom, i already asked a lot of places.I remember hearing about a plant that works against scorpion venom about 15 years ago, but I can’t remember the name. Does anyone know about this or have alternativetreatments?
>>2846272Remember that deaths or serious injury from these kind of things are largely limited to the elderly or kids or already sick. A healthy adult will do fine, or at least the odds arent much different than other freak accident odds people accept while out like lightning or trees falling. Just check for them in and around your shit.To answer the medical question, for an /out/ trip all you can really do is bring sting relief cream/wipes to lessen the pain of a possible sting. Or pay for a gps device to have an sos at all times.
>>2846272>what should I do if I get stung by a scorpionPoison's protein-- hot as the hottest bath you could tolerate water over the affected area. Same thing as stingrays. And black light thing per >>2846295
>>2846274Like the other anon said, it's only life threatening if you're a little kid, super old, or weak. The antivenom wasn't commonly available until recently. My wife got stung by one and her doctor basically told her to just suffer. She kept the scorpion as a pet for a while.
>>2846295You should always shake out your shoes or boots in the morning before putting them on. My taught me that at a young age and I remember my first back packing trip I shake out my boots and this big ass black spider fell out the damn thing.
>>2846435>it's only life threatening if you're a little kid, super old, or weakor allergic. in my cunt we have a snake that is somewhat poisonous. been bit once, hurts a lot but didn't kill me. it's more of a infection risk than anything. but for those people who react weirdly to that kind of poison it genuinely fucks them over real good despite it being weaksauce poison.
>shields you from the sun and rain>easily paired with a beanie for warmth or bug net for bug freedom>makes 5 panel retards look even more gaywhy don't you wear it?
Ordered one today. I think this might be nice in a light drizzle. It's probably too warm in the sun.
>>2847092
>>2844614Wide brim hats are superior in every way. Also a hat like yours will not shield you from rain lmao, maybe the top of your head but nothing else. Especially if it's raining hard or coming at an angle.
>>2847093i got a version of that but part of the top part is a breathable mesh, it's great. i used to use a truckers hat but it was shit, had to move it constantly to keep it pointed towards the sun,. didn't cover the neck anyway, never going back
>>2844614>shields you from the sun, rain, arrows and blows from above>easily paired with a bevor for face protection>makes barbute retards look even more retardedwhy don't you wear it?
