Unless I'm planning on gutting an animal, why would I need more knife than this?
>>2870113>>2870507There are dozens of reasons to carry a fixed blade over a folder, but the way this conversation usually goes is you will then say you don't NEED any of that.
>>2869760Breaking down wood for a shelter or fireIf you're into foraging like me you'd want a good hori hori for deep taproots like chicory and dandelionBreaking down an animal like you said is a great reason to have one.Breaking down thicc vegetation like bambooIt really all depends on what you're out there to do. If you're just hiking or basic camping then yea, op image is a good choice. They're just good to have on you in general.
>>2873032I like the idea of the champ but I worry that its bulkiness makes it less practical. At that point, I'd more consider getting a standalone leatherman wave+ on my belt and a SAK compact in my pocket since they compliment each other well. The only big thing the two of them lack is a large blade, though a fixed blade might be what I'm looking for to fill that gap.
>>2871483>>2872470i ended up buying a wave, its nice but not as nice as the hype it gets online
>>2869861Your dad is right
In 2025 Tatra National Park in Poland had 5 266 672 visitors which means it's more popular than any national park in the US other than Great Smoky Mountains despite being as small as Mesa Verde and 40 times smaller than Yellowstone
>>2874019Plus you have a ton of Floridiots driving up to GSMNP for vacations since that's some of the closest mountains they'll find
>>2872096I went there 2 times a year in 90, beautiful place, but it was and is more and more exploited since then, to the point where Main cityhub is all turistrap (prices) and the national park itself is overcrowded to ridiculus levels.Its a shame how locals choose money over their land. Other thing is tatra mountains became popular with saudis and emirates to the point where theres arabic ads. Its cheaper switzerland for them.
>>2872096The population of Europe is more than twice the population of the USA and the average population density of USA states is similar to Sweden. The western USA has a lower average population density than anywhere in Europe, even lower than European Russia (Euro Russia has about 100 million people on 1.8 million sq miles/4.66 million sq km, or 55 ppl a sq mi which is 21 a sq km).The USA also has different classifications of public wildlands. National Parks are literally the smallest and most restrictive. National Wilderness Areas (usually inside of National Forests) are king.National Forests are the next best. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) is next best. Then comes National Parks.USFWS corridors (usually aquatic habitats or special wildlife areas). The USA has 193,145,865 acres of national forest land = 301,790.41 sq miles or 781,633.57 sq kilometers.The USA also has 245 million acres of BLM land = 382,818 sq miles or 991,478.53 sq milometers. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2872247If it's the road from the Eye of the Sea to the bottom, then I already warn that it's pretty awful or at best boring to go down. Said lake is the normiest part of the mountains, good luck getting to the toilet in peak hours.
>>2872096>my wife gets more traffic than anyone! that means I win!
German anon here. Tomorrow, I will be heading to Decathlon to buy some hiking gear. I have never properly gone hiking before - at most, I have gone on 3-4 hour walks on forest trails. I will mainly be hiking in spring and autumn, and occasionally in summer, depending on the weather. Terrain wise, I will be mainly hiking in rather hilly areas with a few hundred meters of elevation, and more flat areas from time to time. I would also love to camp for a night or two while I'm at it, but if that's too much (budget wise), we can just stick with hiking gear for now.
>>2866518How are the shoes in particular?
>>2871838I have no complaints so far to be honest. For the type of hikes and terrains I use them for, they do their job pretty well. I bought 1 size bigger than what I usually wear (but it feels more like 1/2 more) so they wouldn't feel tight when wearing thicker socks when it's colder. Now that it's warmer, I just tie them a bit tighter.All in all, pretty solid and comfy for the relatively cheap price, and I'd definitely recommend them for someone who is just getting started. I recently even paired them with a pair of merino socks and I don't see myself upgrading the shoes anytime soon now, lol.
>>2861316don't buy from decathlon. buy from temu. cheaper same quality.
>>2861316Good choices OP. Quechua for starters, Salomon if you decide to upgrade. Don't buy Skechers due to poor joint support.
>>2865099>Decathlon's outdoor line uses the following system:Oh no, I just bought Quechua Arpenaz NH500 30L backpack, I'm a filthy casual!Still, my outings are pretty rare, but if let alone, I end up hiking for hours. Must be autism.I could add the ten bucks for Quechua MH500 25L, but I tend to carry bulky items like 1.5L water bottles and random stuff so eh, I was over budget anyway. Maybe it will be good for overnight camping or something.
Any recommendations? I'm passionate about them and I would like to merge both interests into some hobbies
>>2873562Bumping this bc I love this combo but id suggest posting this to /x/ instead. A large part of /out/ don’t care for this kind of discussion
>>2873791How does one rent a camera? This seems like a very big city thing.
>>2874094Nah, you can do it online. I used to always rent from lensrentals but wound up buying equipment I liked.
>>2873562Search for haunted/high strangeness areas near you, plan an expedition. Ask around in some ufo and ghost hunter forums, if you want to make friends to help. Good luck.
Arizona and New Mexico. You don't even need to be very far from the cities and towns to see interdimensionals. Some of them can turn themselves into humans by appearance. I will not elaborate further.
meteorological, biological, geological, anthropological, hydrological, or whatever else
>>2871178Does this count as anthropological?
>>2871199There's a desert in northern Poland, that might be related to the temperature range.
>>2873645There are no climatological deserts in Poland or anywhere in Europe outside of the Iberian peninsula. The mean daily temperature range in Warsaw is the same as Berlin, almost all of Poland lies on the north European plain, meaning the map is wrong.The huge daily temperature range in the southwestern USA is will documented however, not because of the surrounding deserts, but mostly because of elevation. The average elevation of the four corner states (Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado) is 5,700 feet or 1738 meters above mean sea level. Phoenix Arizona (one of the hottest metropolises on Earth) elevation 1,000 feet or 300m has a lower daily temperature range than Flagstaff Arizona (one of the coldest cities, ie population 70k, in the lower 48 USA by number of freezing nights observed, 210 nights, more precipitation than evaporation ie temperate climate) elevation 6,900 feet or 2100m.
Realistically. How do we get poor people into practicing ski?
>>2863310If we are going to promote a sport among the poors, it should be competitive nut kicking duals
>>2863310skiing is the poor people hobby. everyone can afford a set of used skiis or you just continue to use the old ones you got as a teenager. then you open your door, put on skiis, go skiing. once you have them skiing cost as much as hiking, meaning nothing.
>>2870961This summarizes the current state of skiing in Europe, without mentioning that the Alps are melting and snow is year after year less stable. And somehow, despite all that, we are completely overrun by the bottom of barrel scum whose behavior makes niggers look civilised - the Dutch. They're not poor by world standards, but it must be the fact that their brains are not adjusted to lower oxygen concentrations in high altitudes because there is no other explanation for their apelike behavior in Austrian ski resorts. I shit you not, the fact that these flatlanders imagine that they for whatever reason must go skiing every year - RUINED skiing. Hordes and hordes gather every year, they come by in tows of buses too. They get drunk upon arrival, don't sober down by the time they need to leave, they push in the lift queues, they are loud, inconsiderate, fucking rude, they don't know the rules, they literally smoke and drink while going down the slope, their kids will scream into their Snapchat cameras on the lift. I live in a ski resort. My fatigue has fatigue from these niggers. Proportionately speaking, more Dutch people go skiing than Austrians or Swiss go skiing (delusional). And somehow despite all that, in the 50 years of the World Cup races, NOT A SINGLE DUTCH SKIER EVER EVEN RACED. The only thing distinguishing them from the other niggers is that they don't steal your gear, but other than that, Dutch in the Alps is a prime example of why every race needs to be contained in their own natural habitat. tldr skiing is already ruined as it is, there are too many people on slopes, many are uncivilised scum, and the Alps are cooked anyway, so it's over
>>2874461Texans are this but in the US
>>2863310Someone at Carnival asked the same question. Didn’t go well afterwards.
Just got this little guy for trail maintenance. I like it so far. It's not as fast as my crosscut saw since it only cuts on the pull stroke but it folds up and ties to my pack so that's a big plus; easy to carry on a bike.The katana boy 1000 looks awesome but with a $1000+ price tag, a 4 foot closed length and 5 pound weight it would be as cumbersome as my cross cut saw and wouldn't cut much larger logs and it's a rare occasion where I need to cut anything over 18" anyway.
>>2874458I carry a 12" 21v in my SxS.
How would you react to this situation? Cobble Beach immediately north of Newport, Oregon. There's normally an entry fee but today's a free day, so the place is packed. You're greeted by a few signs before you go down that say 1. do not go near the wildlife or interact with it 2. stay inside the perimiter (which is marked by the yellow signs) 3. don't throw rocks in the water and 4. don't take the rocks from the area. I have to stop this family that just kept throwing rocks all together, firmly telling them "Stop throwing rocks, didn't you see the sign?" and walking off. Thankfully they stopped. People kept going over the signs until someone literally walked up to all the seals and scared them back into the water. What would you say to this person if this happened right in front of you? Shit makes me furious, but I would be able to keep my composure.. I told the ranger walking over about it, but I'm not sure what all they would be able to do about it.
>>2873707I dunno, last time I met someone being a cunt in a national park I slashed the tyres on his car when I got back to the car park. I figured that would've given him and his family at least 12 hours to reflect on the importance of picking up your garbage since it's not like there was any mobile reception out there.Can't exactly do that to every car in a busy park though.
>>2873715pretty based anon
>>2873715Fake and gay fantasy
>>2873715I'm fucking kneeling rn.
>>2873707Honestly I don't know. I guess since the seals were already scared off, just firmly tell the cunts they are the reason the seals left and that's why the signs are there. I've been wrestling with what I would do if I see a pack of jeets dumping trash /out/ to increase their izzat. Obviously violence is what should happen, but then I'd also have to disappear any phones that filmed the "hate crime". To complicate the matter, this scenario will most likely happen with my wife and kids present.
And if I got a job, there would be no way to disappear for a few months. Therefore I need to make things as cheap as possible and probably find some short term jobs around the continent.How can I do it? I wanna see all those mountains, nature, cities and castles.
>>2872043Couchsurfing and hitchhiking will save you lots of money, that leaves food and paid entrancesI don't know how to hobomaxx but this will be your life>find some short term jobsNot sure how realistic this is as a tourist
>>2872043Heard from several sources (non-Europeans) that you will need at least twice that in order to live on existentialist minimum. Visa will be a pain in the ass and cause logistical issues that will ramp up the costs.
>>2872133I don't need a visa
>>2872043Interrail in the summer and work oddjobs whereever you go (picking fruit, bartending at festivals, etc). Festival organisers often have platforms where you can sign up to work for cash for a couple days.
>>2872043D-Ticket and a lot of patienceessentially what I am doing but I*m a poor NEET I pay with time
13:40 PM and I can already see the moon. :]
>>2872718did you know 40% of the population doesn't think the moon can be out during the day. when asked about the just respond >the moon is out during the nightwtf have they really never looked up and seen the moon out during the day.
>>2872718tighten that sky harness mate you look like you're dangling
>>2872718Always appreciate seeing a good post from the anons down under!
>>2872718>alreadyI think you have no idea how the moon works
Looks like it's 180 degrees out there
Do you guys have any recommendations for campers? Now that I have 3 kids tents are ass. I've been looking at pop up campers since I have a van, but I feel like the big booms reselling in my area are delusional.
>>2874237>there are millions of "kids" who want Boomer's old clapped out shit when boomers die 99% of their shit gets thrown out by their kids. You will be no different lmao
>>2874243then buy their shit for cheap. you wont.
>>2874243they will throw away their vw camper van, who wants that junk? and then you will pull your hair at how expensive they are.
>>2874237they can name any price they want but they can also be shit on for demanding outrageous money for their junk that they don't even want to actually sell but rather desire to wank themselves off over how cool they are for owning a thing. it's flaunting their shit and pumping their ego at the pretense of selling stuff.
>>2874270>the (((boomers))) are intentionally conspiring to torment me personally.it's a good thing those kids are biologically your wife's bull's.
Shelter-cels get what they deserve
>>2873076Sure, I wish I had rich parents. Don't we all? I am not jealous of a disconnect of reality >>2873097;)>>2873187I usually spend a collective month out of every year outside. I backpack, whitewater, climb (outdoors only, not a loser), sometimes hunt, fish, and snowshoe. I have slept outdoors in negative temperatures and temps over 100. I have done a decent portion of the AT in sections, along with other trails here and there. Only thing I haven't gotten into is serious mountaineering, but I'm waiting for the tiktok trend to die down. Being a normie would be cheaper.>>2873224shroomhead mentioning shrooms? a shocker. be more original. there's enough druggies on the trail, might want to find a hostel to hole up at and work-for-stay until you can scrounge up enough pocket change to get an uber home
>>2873250>Noo! Dont take drugs outdoors! This is serious!
>>2873058Screams I don't have a trail name energy because nobody likes you. I've met hikers like you before, alone in your tent while everyone else is socializing around the camp fire.
>>2873058This is the only based post on /out/ right now.
>>2871428burn the shelter ofc
Apologies, I didn't skim the catalog to see if there's already a thread in this vein, I'm exhausted. I spent two nights sleeping on this thing, a KLYMIT Static V2 Inflatable Sleeping Pad. I got less than 2 hours of sleep in that time.This is not completely unusual for me even at home, I suffer from insomnia despite after working on my feet all day. So I'm absolutely not saying this particular product, brand or model is at fault, but I'm wondering if y'all have found any ways to improve your sleep quality when using these lightweight outdoor sleeping cushions.I've used this thing several times, so this was not unexpected for me. Basically, the only viable sleeping position is on your back. It's too hot in the summer to use much else, for example, I have another lightweight closed-cell foam sleeping pad that I could couple it with. I'm not sure if that would really add much more comfort though, I feel like it's more for winter use to help insulate your body heat.What are your own thoughts and insights on sleeping comfortably with gear you can carry yourself? How do 'you' do it?
Hammock
>>2873887pillow ear plugs eye mask help a lot, also thats a fairly low tier sleeping pad, also placebo can help. if you are spending 250 bucks on a sleeping pad your mind will think its the most comfortable bed ever. You can also hike more and just pass out if you dont want to buy more shit my best sleep always comes after i do a long day that felt successful, basically your mind is pacing and you need to slow it down eat a giant dinner, whatever it takes dont feel like you need to stop hiking just cause its dark stop when your actually tired
I have a Big Agnes Divide in the wider size and I like it. I'm pretty heavy and I can even side sleep somewhat comfortably on it. I hate sleeping bags though, I really want to try and sheet and quilt setup for warmer weather and they also have the advantage of packing up tiny but for some reason they're all crazy expensive. My biggest problem is pillows, I sleep with two at home and really struggle with even a single big inflatable one when camping. If I were doing normal backpacking I'd probably have a jacket I could put under the pillow but I mostly motocamp which means my jacket is a stiff armored one that isn't suitable for that. I've thought about just getting a second pillow too but I'm already struggling for space as it is and ones that pack up really tiny are stupidly expensive.
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>>2873887closed cell isn't a winter thing, inflatable pads have much higher insulation value. consider trying a hammock. if you dont like this inflatable, you probably wont feel much of a difference from a different inflatable. try a closed cell if you want, I can't stand them because even the smallest ones pack down to the size of a small refrigerator.
How do I deal with these giant fucking rapists? I’m snorkeling and swimming off of the west side of the ‘Big Island’ in Hawaii soon. I am worried I will encounter one of these fuckers and it will try to bite me. Im bringing a tourniquet just in case. Please share advice if you are familiar with this area or species. Thank you.
sharks are chill bros. its dolphins that will rape you.
>>2868397Titanium or kevlar chainmail, or at the very least a few longwise titanium strips sewn into kevlar fabric should be good enough.
>>2872147>shark attacks are wayyyyyy under reportedLol.No.Every bite gets national coverage for days.>just don't look like their preyThats exactly what it is though.In this decade there have been 9 fatal attacks. All 9 were swimming on the surface or on a surfboard. Only 1 person was snorkeling (on the surface)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_shark_attacks_in_the_United_StatesThe last scuba diver to die was September 3rd, 2001. And he actually drowned when the regulator fell out of his mouth while "fighting off" a shark.Thats zero scuba diver deaths in the last quarter century.
>>2874096>The last scuba diver to die was September 3rd, 2001. And he actually drowned when the regulator fell out of his mouth while "fighting off" a shark.He died in a better world. Let's try not to be too jealous.
>>2872147>shark attacks are wayyyyyy under reportedsounds like somebody watched the bob gymlan video and didn’t stop to verify any of it>people get attacked by sharks all the time, with nearly 50 percent of those cases being fatalNo they don’t. Sharks have a remarkably low fatality rate for such large animals>the requirement for something to be registered as a shark attack is that people have to have seen the sharkThis isn’t true either. Plenty of attacks are recorded without anybody ever seeing the shark. There have been several in Australia like that just recently
How do I learn to enjoy the sea?A friend got injured and basically handed me two pedal kayaks (similar to pic, a bit larger).>Took it out and pedaled.>enjoyed just going around but found that unlike hiking I can't really bring all that much with me.>Not like I'm cooking over a fire sitting on a kayak.>Got bored of baking in the sun j>just paddled around for exercise.I've never fished before in my life, the whole pole-fishing thing seems like a moneyhole but idk. I think the kayak has a fishingpole stand.I definitely need to figure out some kind of shade for itNot sure what else is out there, would appreciate some thoughts from sea-faring anons
>>2868440>>2868444>>2868482Fishing is like a lot of hobbies where you can spend as little or much as you want. See if you can get some decent stuff secondhand. A lit of people buy nice gear, never use it, the sell it for pennies on the dollar when they clean out the garage.
>>2873211Sea kayaking is quite exhilarating if the water's wavy enough
>>2868444>You can get a perfectly serviceable rod and reel combo for under 100 dollarsYou can find perfectly serviceable food and reel combos in thrift stores for $5-10.
You don’t. The sea sucks
Get in the sea - use a wetsuit, mask/snorkel and fins and put your head under water and get familiar with this magical place. The wetsuit will give you both buoyancy and warmth, and increase your confidence with the environment. At the outset, you need to get familiar with your tides, because high and low tides ('slack-water') are when the currents are mildest. It depends on the total tidal reach of the region you are in, of course - some places might have a 10m inter-tidal variance, while others might be only a meter or two. Obviously, you need to know areas to stay away from due to hazardous currents, wildlife, surface vessel traffic, industry etc.
