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The perfect hiking food.
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>>2861981
Seems like gummy bears are the same shit as gel but with choking hazard, yet without the fucking stickiness that lasts during half the marathon
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>>2861868
No.
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>>2861868
I only eat extra stinky sardines and throw the tins in the woods with the aspirations that some retarded animal or person steps on it in the next 5 years
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>>2862390
It's sugar and maltodextrin for quick absorption with some electrolytes and maybe caffeine.

>>2864262
A lot of people eat gummies and stuff while training because they are cheaper but chewing things with labored breathing during a race isn't worth it.
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>single use plastic
Nope

How do you niggas keep the creepy crawlies away in the warmer months? I hate ticks and I don't want to find one on my ballsack. Do you just spray DEET on my balls and hope for the best?
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>>2863817
Layered defense. Long sleeves, long pants, keep your skin and hair covered. Tuck pants into socks. Choose light colors when possible, you'll be a less obvious target in bug-vision and it makes it easier to spot hitchhikers. Do quick tick checks routinely during water or rest breaks. Pack a mirror for end-of-day gooch inspection, they love nooks and crannies. Always bring a head net for sanity.
Keep clear of obvious spots favored by questing ticks, like bushwhacking through tall grass, following tight game trails, or carelessly brushing overgrowth on the sides of a path. Also avoid dense leaf litter, especially this time of year, since that's where nymphs overwinter in large numbers waiting for rodent hosts.
You can soak or spray shit in permethrin too (undies not recommended), that shit kills any bug unfortunate enough to land on a treated surface. Horse-strength is cheapest, but dilution and soaking is kind of a pain in the ass. It will also kill cats when wet.
Picaridin and DEET work on mosquitoes, black flies, and ticks. If you're in an area with keds or deerflies, they're mainly visual hunters so only permethrin and God can help you.
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>>2863909
but then itll be HOT how can i be ultralight wearing more than a dyneemA toga?
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>>2863817
Smoke cigarettes or burn citronella
Smudge with sage rosemary or anything that burns
You will stink and be comfy
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>>2863921
Buy a $200 sunshirt.
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>>2863909
There's a farmer who died because he hot permethrin on his balls trying to kill crabs, and iot was the farm-grade stuff.

Pic related isn't bad, have used in the snow, it's light, compact, though it has a long startup time to light the charcoal. I've thought about making my own with lump charcoal (faster lighting, burns hotter) and maybe bigger trays if I can find them.. or just multiple trays. They're standard alfoil tray size so I can reuse the stands if I diy. But probably pita to get the fuel ratio right where it'll light completely.

I've looked into others like the everdue cube/cube 360, basic hibachi grill.

Saw the lotusgrill hybrid, got excited until I saw you have to change inserts to switch between gas and charcoal eg no lighting charcoal with the gas or using both. Classic is lighter and charcoal only and allegedly lights charcoal in 4 min which is great but then again, will the fuel be sufficiently burner off to be able to start cooking?

Do you guys have any preferences?

The alfoil bbq probably still necessary for some things, notably if I'm doing a short hike with a pack of equipment already and want a lightweight cooking option. But I definitely feel like I need a decent portable upgrade for all other situation
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subtle camping with steve thread? havent seen one in a while
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>>2864213
Who?
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>>2864224
The guy that killed his wife covered it up and partied with his buddy 2 days after burying her.
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>>2864319
don't forget he killed his best friend too
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>>2864202
Those aluminum trays are always stupidly expensive when I see them at the grocery store. I went to buy one so I could make lasagna for a friend and it was cheaper just to buy a glass pan. I just gave it to my friend like that and told him to keep the pan.

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Would you? Have you lived in one, built one, or simply stayed overnight? Explain yourself.
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>>2860564
>>2860585
how much did you spend on materials
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>>2863999
>$25 on nails
>$40 on 2x4's
>$110 on tin
>$10 on hinges
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>>2864001
what is the floor size and what do you plan to do about it
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i built and lived in one in alaska for several winters
cost in total was around 50k for land and materials, it took about two months to build with most of that being sledding out materials.
access is only by a moderately long and remote trail so i had to spend a decent chunk on four wheelers/snowmachines also
it was fun and challenging to build (stick built, local trees are bad) but it became very demoralizing and lonely as less and less friends came to visit. my life just became a cycle of cook, work on trail, shovel roof, cut wood, shoot guns, watch movies, and sleep. also drink. a lot of drinking.
it was worth it but now it is just more of a getaway/backup cabin.
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>>2864388
>also drink. a lot of drinking.
Innawoods anon here.
Can verify.

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Is /postholing/ really looked down in the hiking community? Boomers at my hiking group are mad at me for hiking during the snow storm in my state last week. They're complaining about me going up without snowshoes. I miscalculated the snow and ended up having to hike down 2 miles on knee deep snow.
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>>2860834
yeah you basically did for other people, but another snowstorm and it'll be back to normal again (if someone doesn't posthole again).
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>>2860826
I have never heard anyone who actually goes out ever complain about postholing other than the actual person doing it because it is a massive pain in the ass.

I swear you people spend all your time inside or with weekend warrior rule dorks. Whites have become so weak and gay.
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>>2860830
Eh it does suck to hike on a trail after someone puts a ton of deep holes in it. Though post holing really is more about it being difficult than inconsiderate.
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>>2860826
>boomers
>hiking group
>2 miles

I go 2 miles to grab some snacks from the fridge
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>>2862015
OK Boomer.

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i live behind an anthropogenically altered dune. i answer questions

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First question: How does a beginner deal with every single safe path, parking lot, and road available being either hilly as hell, covered in gravel, or both? There are no rinks or indoor courts available either. I managed to sneak some practice in an underground parking garage, but I then got told off by an old lady, so that's out too.
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>>2864246
Outdoor basketball court at local high school.
Parking lot at mall at night.
Church parking lot on any day thats not Sunday.
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>>2864257
none of these are applicable - indoor parking lots close at night (and outdoor ones are a mess), schools would frown hard at some random adult using their grounds, and the only church i know of here has a dirt parking lot. Finland is a weird place...
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>>2864258
In the US there are playgrounds near schools but not directly on school grounds. They're for the public. Such a place may have a basketball court or tennis court. If this is not possible, consider limiting your skating to winter or becoming Jesus.
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>>2864246
Do you not have like a town square or something?
Where I live there's always peeps out the front of one of the city museums.

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Any experience using Meshtastic devices out on a camping trip or whatever?
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>>2863309
My complaint is that range sucks ass for lora. But I am really into HF and vhf radio so I think I am expecting to much out of it. The APRS suggestion is the best in this thread and of course it gets scoffed out of. They won’t jam VHF across the country. That is a retarded fear to not use the best solution available.
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>>2858401
I don't think it's too hard to believe that bodies can be burning in the streets and buildings falling over and a bureaucrat from central authority still comes knocking at your door for using the bands without a license.
Or all licenses will be revoked immediately anyway.
So moot, but also maybe not impossible it's not moot.
Comedy always.
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Its baofeng or nuthin
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>>2863803
Don't you need a loicense to transmit?
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>>2863824
not on FRS bands.

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You know those threads we have every week about dropping everything and living alone in the woods? Almost in a ascetic manner without internet and no job.
Why? What causes it? To me it seems to be wanting an escape of urban life, the responsibilities and never-ending noise, the internet that has been utterly destroyed, to escape corporatism or something along those lines. To utterly reject consumerism and decadence.
Now in that sense the desire for that has been noted to have existed since roman times from what i have read. To simpler times, to rural life before urbanization. A romantization of perhaps a gilded past. Don't get me wrong, rural life is superior to urban life but it too has its disadvantages. Especially now when the majority lives in the city leaving only old people out in the countryside rather than the bustling village 100 years ago. The warmth of the village is gone in most places or dying out as is.
If you can't find contentness in the now then you won't find contentness in a log cabin in the middle of Alaska.
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>>2854860
Bump
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>>2854858
The reason I personally would want to(never will, too many responsibilities) is to escape the horrible bureaucracy and debt traps of modern society. I don't like the way everyone struggles for power, and how the %1 keep everyone else down. So it is a form of escapist fantasy, and to have some sense of control over one's life.
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>>2854858
It's pretty common for men when they get older. You find out that all you're really doing with your life is spinning your wheels while still faking with all the stress and bullshit of modern life. The idea of ditching all your responsibilities and living a "simpler " life can be rather attractive. Why do you think the while shtf and zombie apocalypse fades were so popular? Just a bunch of dudes that are tired with life.
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>>2854858
inb4 the mods ban this one too...
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>>2854858
>don't want to deal with stressful bullshit from asshole family/stupid societal issues that stop you from living how you want
>fuck you all, I quit
>go live the life you want on your own
That's why. It's very easy to say you aren't getting what you put into things and you're done doing it and take your shit and go. I highly recommend it if you feel stress every day from some bullshit to prove to yourself it isn't necessary in your life and you can do whatever you want.

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Are barefoot shoes really that goated? Im buying new shoes soon, and i just wanna know if its truly the way to go. Especially considering that there arent many barefoot hiking shoes, that are somewhat waterproof.
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>>2860537
They're okay, but try to go for models with stitched soles. Heard people saying that the vegan eco friendly save the planet glue they use on none stitched models isn't that great and can fail after a while.
I have some leather moccasin style sneakers from Vivo and they give a lot more sensory feedback on the terrain; Just takes a while to get used to them at first.
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A tiny minority of weirdos prefere barefoot shoes over normal shoes. You might be one of them, only way to find out is to try it. I wouldnt tho
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>>2856498
In my experience 'barefoot' sandals feels more natural to walk in than the shoe types, which makes me still heel strike somewhat. You also don't have to worry about waterproofness.

It's important to start slow as your feet will likely be atrophied and you need to build up strength in muscles and tendons. Or you'll risk getting injured, especially if you're running or similar strenuous activities for the feet.
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>>2856498
i have a pair of the lems boulder boots
been walking everywhere with them since 2022 with no signs of falling apart
would recommend
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>>2862890
what the fuck are those, keep them away from my vibrams

>EWG study: Eating one freshwater fish equals a month of drinking ‘forever chemicals’ water
So am I just not supposed to eat fish anymore? What's the point of even fishing anymore?
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>>2854649
I looked into the specific study results and it's pretty weasel-y. For example, they sampled quite a few fish from the Connecticut River, but the majority of those were taken immediately downriver from a major city

I don't want my fish to have chemicals. I'm also not super surprised that a Largemouth taken in Hartford a mere 500 feet away from the airport tarmac might be not that good to eat
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>>2855035
brackish water fish chads rise up.
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>>2854649
everything from the grocery store and your balls are also full of chemicals. just eat the trout nigga.
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>>2854941
You can still fish and not eat the fish. Just catch and release
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>>2855348
It also matters what state you're in. If you're in IL, the IL-DNR says you get turbo-cancer from fish. But in Missouri, they say no problemo, lol

i might get some ducks because i heard they eat bugs in your garden but not the vegetables. are there any downsides to owning ducks other than buying food for them?
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Building a mobile duck coop with a 190L pond. 2.5m×2.5m footprint with 2.5m×1.25m raised deck and pond area. this two-tier design effectively increases their usable space by 33%. they can use the full 6.25sqm ground access for forage and can shelter/shade/rest under the pond deck. there is a ramp they can use to access the upper deck and pond.

bottom two photos were from 3.14 and top two are from 3/21. I should be able to complete it next weekend when I get paid. so far I have only spent $135CAD. that was for the 80cm×130cm pond. I will need to purchase a second livestock panel ~$45cad, to enclose the arbor. everything else is salvage & repurposed. I found two matching 40cm children's bicycles laying by the dumpster at work. I used the rear wheels on the back (pond) end and will cut & adapt the frames and forks from them to the front of the coop so it can be easily moved & turned. the lower frame is already enclosed in poultry wire & we will cover the arbors as well. I will build a 165cm tall door and frame on the front end for ease of access. the lower frame clears the ground by 45cm. low enough to prevent escape and predators yet high enough to allow towing without dragging. even without the front wheels on, it is easy to lift and move by hand but we do have a lawn tractor and I will make an attachment option.

we live on 10 acres & raise welsh harlequins, muscovy & silver appleyards. this is for the muscovy flock. we turn out the harlequin & apples free range, but dont want to risk our 'scoveys flying away, as they are a prone to wander.

the whole project should cost aboot $180
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So what makes duck poop worse than other birds? Google's giving me some weirdo tea
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>>2864198
cool project dude
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Top left Muscovy, Bottom Left Harlequins & Appleyards on right.

Muscovy are for meat. their meat is unlike any other duck. it is a rare delicacy. harlequins and apples are for eggs & meat. the Harleys & apples lay upwards of 300 eggs per year. duck eggs are superior to chickens for baking, and I prefer them for eating as well.
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If you have a heavy Asian population nearby you can make bank breeding ducks- if you only sell them during the month leading up to chinese new year.
Its like turkeys for Thanksgiving, except walmart doesnt have an entire freezer section packed with ducks.

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I’ve recently read South by Ernest Shackleton and Entangled Life by Merlin Sheldrake and I’ve enjoyed the contrast between both of these books.
The latter is about how powerful and useful the humble mushroom is to both humans and animals and the former is about a captain and his mates defying the odds of being shipwrecked in the Antarctic and doing whatever is necessary to survive in an ice desert and save his crew mates.
This has enabled me to appreciate the duality of the natural world more and would like to delve further if you have any recommendation. Thank you :)
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>>2862885
You're describing human nature and blaming it on specific humans you fucking retard
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Anyway.
This book made 11 year old me want to run off into the woods and raise a falcon.
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>>2859825
Most of movies and documentaries by Werner Herzog. Jungles as an hardcore and fast mix of predation, sex, decay and parasitism.(compared to "calms" deserts, plains and temperate forests)

Aguirre - fitzcarraldo for jungle fictions
Encounters at the end of the world (documentary on an antartica base)
He is/was an out guy and did other movies about volcanoes, caving, aboriginals, german mysteries...


There is also some epic exploration authors, what I may call innocent colonialism, it kind of stopped in the last century, sometimes with brutality, or far less morals, environment concerns, cautions, meds...

Authors like Jules Crevaux, Sir Richard Burton,
siberian explorers, poles explorers, even spanish conquistadores. Navigators like Joshua Slocum.
Also Thoreau ( I thought it was overestimated but it's not), and Charles Darwin's travel diary.

You can have a look into anthropology for studies of the concepts of nature and culture in other civilizations ( Philippe Descola, Claude Levi Strauss "Sade tropics" novel, or any other badass anthropologist.)
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>>2862884
>evangelical
not Christian
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I found Cry of the Kalahari in a previous book thread, and it bears mentioning again. It's equally wonderful, beautiful and tragic. If not for the pictures the authors took, I would have struggled to believe some of the things described in the book. Really the kind of book to leave an impression.
White Hunters: The Golden Age of African Safaris, by Brian Herne, also has some amazing stories, these from colonial Africa and through modern times. It also shows how some of the great white hunters realized the error of their ways and became conservationists in their old age. The description of the Mau-Mau crisis is almost bizarre at times. Anyone who's read their Wilbur Smith can probably recognize a good few events the good Mr. Smith adapted for his books.
No Picnic on Mount Kenya is amazingly lighthearted for a book by a prisoner of war, who decides to escape the POW camp to climb Mount Kenya. Beautiful depictions of nature, supplemented with photos and drawings.
Helge Ingstad wrote The Land of Feast and Famine after his years living as a trapper in Canada. It's wonderfully down to earth, and clearly written by someone who has a great deal of respect for nature.

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Realistically is there a way to fix this?
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>>2861109
No, biodiversity isn’t a binary thing, it’s linked to the geography, climate, etc. you can’t just say “I want more biodiversity.”
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>>2862420
>you can’t just say “I want more biodiversity
Yes you can. Nature isn't perfect.
Half the US was covered in a glacier in the last ice age. Plants and animals are expanding their range every year and colonizing new places.
Many coastal rivers that drain into the ocean barely had any freshwater fish until fish stocking programs.

Look at Ascension Island. That literally was a case of people saying "we need more biodiversity" and turning a volcanic rock into a tropical jungle.
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>>2861109
>>2861198
uh, extremely opposite two maps
so, which diversity is better? you cant have both at the same time, eco freaks, explain yourself
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>>2861379
Operation Endemic Fury
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>>2861109
thatmemewiththemushroomthatlookslikeajewnosetellingtheforesttoletinthevines.jpg

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Thinking of doing some kind of a spiritual trip.

Getting a light bag, some clothes, and just go somewhere. Taking some money to buy food but also try to meet people and let them give me whatever they want.

Maybe go somewhere and build a little shed and spend some time there.

Bringing no phone and electronics. No books even.
Writing a small letter to my gf before I go telling her to not worry.

I've been reading the life of the Buddha and I would really like to try an experience like this before I have responsibilities in life that would prevent me from trying it.

Has anyone done something like this ? How was it ? Would you like to try it ?
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I like bringing my tin whistle with me on a walk and play a few tunes somewhere quiet
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>>2864129
My brother and Dad needed help with the family business, and if it falls through all my siblings will basically be fucked. My family has always been extremely good to me, so I do the same for them.

>>2864145
Nothing is profound it's all a joke that's funny as fuck. I've met with Brock Pierce about 3 times and I'm pretty sure I met a disguised Epstein at one of his parties in Puerto Rico that was being used to advertise crypto business infrastructure to the local populace. I could've personally killed Epstein and changed literally the entire reality we are in right now dramatically, if I had the foresight and insight necessary at the time. Anyone here can do the same it's as easy as quitting your job and wandering around to meet people for a few years.
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>>2864169
You just admitted to attending a Jeffery Epstein party.
You fuck kids?
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>>2864172
Literally almost everyone in Puerto Rico was there they were an open party.
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>>2864027
>meet people and let them give me whatever they want
*Give them


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