Does anyone here ever stop at paid campsites, i know most people here are super into wild camping but for some trips it can be more relaxing camping in a managed site, usually it's cheaper and better than a hotel or motel, sleeping bags are much cosier than the shitty beds they have.
>>2752803Never. If you like it, go ahead, but to me it just takes away everything I enjoy about hiking.
My back and hips are messed up from my time in the military, so sleeping on the ground really doesn’t make for good experiences anymore. We bought a scamp 16 and we camp in National or state parks and only do private campgrounds if there are no other options. Gives us a way to bring our 22 month old camping with a quiet cool dark place for her nap.
>>2756396>I enjoy about hiking.>not the same as campingI took my 10yr old out the other night for her first night ever camping. It was awesome. Had s'mores the whole deal. We took a day hike and then had a cozy camp to come back to right on the creek. The campgrpund was chill and no knucleheads. Car camping can be awesome- its not either/or but both car camping and backpacking have their place.
>>2756450I hope you have many more such great trips, anon.
>>2752833paid campsites are typically overprovisioned to maximize revenue. It would have to be weird situation that someone is charging for camping but at the same all sites have ample room and privacy.
Hello /out/ I will be flying to Milan then Geneo and Venice in a couple of weeks. I saw on the hitchiking wiki that there are no fines on going on trains without tickets but could not find a recent confirmation. Also how is hitchiking in Italy? I saw many negative and positive responses so I am not sure what to make of it. What else to watch out for while freeloading in Italy?
>>2756234>there are no fines on going on trains without ticketsThere are. You will be fined and removed, do so repeatedly and you will be barred from public transport. >Also how is hitchiking in Italy?Not a thing. You might find the odd foreign truck driver that picks you up. >What else to watch out for while freeloading in Italy?Knuckle sandwiches. Stay home.
>>2756234Don’t care
>>2756234info from summer 2022.i boarded the train from Venice to Trieste. guys are capable of issuing tickets on the train itself but charged me about 30 eur above regular price. it was itemized as 'Regolarizzazione Passegeri' on the receipt.similar thing in Slovenia - Lubiana to Capodistria, except charged just 5 eur extra.My understanding is while you are technically not issued a fine, as long as the train jew get to fleece for doing it the difference is academic.
>>2756475That's if you accept to pay. If you don't you'll be removed and fined, if you become belligerent, refuse to leave or such behaviour is reiterated police will get involved. I wish they charged you more.
>>2756488Culturally Enriching European Public Transit
I've noticed that any exposed parts of me when I'm on grass get really itchy the next day, I've read this could be mites or maybe the grass essentially giving me tiny cuts everywhere due to microscopic sharp parts of the grass. I've also read it might be some kind of mild alllergic reaction?Will this go away if it happens enough? Like my skin will get tougher or I'll just build up a tolerance to the allergy?It's kinda annoying but I don't want it to keep me from going /out/, how do I get used to this? I don't want to wear clothing that covers my skin because it's hot enough, ideally I'd be in only shorts.
>>2755810Sigh I already said it but chiggers. Jesus did none of you go outside as a kid? Grass allergies Jesus hopscotching Christ the state of things.
>>2755774avoiding grass in an /out/ specialty
>>2755816What can be done to prevent chiggers? I don't think we can arrest them all, perhaps we could seed their neighborhoods with crack cocaine.
>>2755910I guess it started out as a problem in the rural south and then massive chigger migration has turned it into mostly an urban issue. My best advice? Avoid chiggers at all costs. Never live around chiggers. Don’t let your kids date a chigger. Don’t let your guard down around chiggers. They often travel in groups or gangs. If you see a gang of young chiggers best to go the other direction.
what not touching grass enough does to a mf
Did you know that some tractor owners fill their tires with water or other fluids? Filling tractor tires with water is a common practice in agriculture and certain industrial applications, serving various purposes. This practice is prevalent in agricultural tractors used for tasks like plowing, planting, and harvesting, as well as in industrial tractors involved in material handling, construction, and other heavy-duty operations.https://farmingshelter.com/should-you-fill-tractor-tires-with-water/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5KTC1-YX08
>>2755670But this is a good thread anon, I especially enjoyed finding out that my dad was not a bad guy and that it was my mother that had driven him away with constant nagging
>>2730096deer you bitch
>>2729783to make the tractor more heavy.but ourdays they just use weights.
>>2756338Sounds kinda gay if you ask me.
>>2756339When was the last time you called your dad?
What's your favorite socks for your /out/ings? I do pic related but I'm wondering if there isn't a better way. My priority is on keeping cool in the summer and not getting my feet super sweaty but the thread's open to whatever you're into, I'm curious to hear. Maybe there's some kind of advanced ultra waterproof wader socks I've never heard of. Post 'em.
>>2753855>y-you're the one who's not going outside and should touch grass because he's too busy pondering/shilling sock brands, of all things>also if you dare suggest I'm a braindead consoomer and you're tired of my reassuring horde and the never-ending dumb gear threads for that shopaholic dopamine spike, you're actually just triggered ha gotchaMaybe if you'd wear some normal socks like everybody else you'd grow some self-awareness.
>>2754062by this logic you surely go on week long high altitude treks in your skechers, jeans and tshirt right?
>>2753012Fell for the meme, not thrilledSure they're better than random 5$ socks, but I'm not sure if they're 20$ extra better.Hopefully they will last longer than generic socks and warranty process in the EU will be as smooth as people from the US claim.
>>2755996>euWell there’s the problem right there anon.
>>2753003Usually any thin wool sock. I sweat a lot and my feet stink. Only time I switch it up is when it gets cold and you run the risk of trench foot/frostbites. I do however always carry a pair of sealskinz extreme cold weather socks in my pack.
is 12kg a good base weight for winter camping?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J2MraCI9vI
My pack weighs 42lbs without food or water
>>2752344Tis the summertime my guy. Ask summertime questions.
>>2752344That's not winter. There's barely any snow on the ground.
>>2752344>Hello wild ones ^_^ hello mommy :3Its that heavy anon, depending on winter enviorment youll often need heavier equipment and clothing, but the great thing about winter is that you can use a pulk/sled to carry stuff on.
>>2752344That seems like a reasonable weight, considering she is carrying an ice axe and a heavy duty tent.
Carrot, Hemlock or Parsnip?
>>2755923Maybe it's a baby
If you're not sure of this you should never ever eat it. It's literally one of the easiest plants to identify, how the fuck can you not know what queen anne's lace looks like?In fact, if you can't identify a wild carrot you should give up foraging. I can tell from a glance when I'm not looking at some shitty smartphone picture.
>>2755920Not OP but do we have poison hemlock in the PNW? I'm on vancouver island/bc lower mainland and want to start foraging
>>2755920Minnesota, near in the cities near the river.
>>2756146yeah it's actually a lot more common here than anywhere else.I live just south of tacoma and I see it all the time. although I've never been to canada, maybe the plants feel the same way I do about dealing with border control.looking into it further, it seems they don't really grow as much in BC except for the Georgia depression (the exact spot you mentioned), which both makes sense to me and is hilarious.if you plan to get into foraging with plants, then I would suggest picking up a book called "PLANTS OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST Washington, Oregon, British Columbia, & Alaska" by Pojar Mackinnon. The best way to learn about foraging (other than to be formally taught by a tribal elder with a training montage.) is to go out into the wild, like some sort of wizard with a type of book called a "dichotomous key" (and a dictionary) and use the key to identify a plant and then find out what to do with said plant. don't use google lens, or any other AI based program, we aren't there yet. don't rely on google or any other wifi-based technology that doesn't work in the middle of the woods. and don't just look at the pictures, because then you don't learn anything. Ideally, again you would have someone with you who knows things, but I understand that isn't always possible. for a start, look for salmon berries, they're bountiful this time of year. as a test, find out how to correctly identify a dandelion (there are a surprising amount of lookalikes). and for achievement get, try and memorize every fern, there are surprisingly few varieties.>>2756178I'm pretty sure that's like, the one state with no poison hemlock. also that sucks man.
Just want a quick check on if this makes sense or is really stupid.Recently did a 4-day avalanche course and found my Salomon Quest 4Ds ample in terms of warmth and support in all ways except having the rigidity in the toes for high angle snow. I don't intend to use this proposed setup for high-exposure front-pointing or anything. Just want to postpone having to buy fully fledged mountaineering boots and make mine a bit more comfortable for use in non-technical terrain.Idea is I can wear them as hiking boots on approach then pop the insoles in when I put crampons on to bring them up to (or close) to a full shank mountaineering boot. They're comfy for approaches as well so saves me carrying boots+trail runners like some people do.
>>2756355>All the cushioning of carbon>All the durability of fiber
>>2756355Hmmm, this is an actually interesting idea. Most of the worry regarding using boots other than rigid mountaineering boots comes from the notion that steel crampons will pop off your flexible boots. then again companies also make flexible (they are more rigid than you would think) linking bars for crampons to enable better use of flexible shoes. I can Imagine the carbon fiber insole would be a good bet that it works out better with that too.
Carbon fiber is only strong in 2 dimensions (or 1 if it's not made out properly). Given how thin the sole is and the pattern I'm suspecting the 2 dimensions are the plane you are walking in, so that sole would bend under perpendicular pressure to your sole and/or break.I've never tried carbon fiber soles though, so maybe I am missing something and they somehow managed to lay the fibers in such a way that they are strong to perpendicular forces.
>>2756355This is valid, Kilian says he does something similar to what you are describing
Do you think it would be viable to cut a hole in this, and add a heat proof pad for a small wood stove?
>>2755698But you’re a retard.
waaaay to small, but if you do, make sure to buy a carbon monoxide detector
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpdvy1Ef-_w
>>2755698You can just build a small fire in those.
It's way too small, you'd be forced to be less than a foot away from the fire at all times. Build a fire or keep a stove near the door
I am going camping and I keep bicycle near my tent. What kinda lock is good and lightweight so I can carry it with ease inside my backpack or pocketGeneral lock discussion is fine
>>2756190>locks on an /out/door boardKindly go back to your low iq board please
>>2756190Do you think there are forest niggers out looking to steal your bike? No one is going to steal your bike next to your tent.
>>>/n/ FAGGOT
>>2756190>good and lightweight yeah I don't think you can have bothjust go for light cause the main risk is probably opportunistic assholes, not real thieves
>>2756349It doesn't happen until it does.OP if it's only for camping (and away from organized campgrounds), you only need something to prevent an opportunistic thief from riding away on your bike, a cable lock should suffice. Odds that someone is walking innawoods with bolt cutters are significantly lower.
These things are exploding in population. Why are they still protected? These are monstrosities early explorers feared more than cannibal natives. We had their populations down for a reason. Why are we welcoming back IRL monsters that literally want to eat us? We shouldn't be doing that until we have some sort of reliable technology where we can implant each one with a paralysis mechanism if it's close to a human and has the urge to attack. Hook up a bear nuerolink or some shit. But letting these things roam free is a hippie delusion. Wtf are we doing?
>>2756272
>>2756281well, theres' fun and then there's innane bullshit.
>>2739602what are you saying anon
>>2739570I would rather kill you than kill a grizzly
>>2739586>Almost everything is in constant danger of being eaten by something else. Thats the normal state of life in the woods. Why should you be entitled to anything else?This is the most reddit shit I've ever read on this board. You are a guaranteed out of shape neckbeard redditor retard.
Hi /out/. Im going camping with some friends for the first time in the coming weeks on an Island off mainland ireland. two of the party of seven have extensive camping experience and the rest of us are clueless. Any words of advice?
>>2753985Listen to your experienced friends and ignore everyone here
>>2753985Bring insect repellent
>>2753991His experienced friends are most likely lying to everyone.
>>2753985OP never got back to us about his camping trip. Maybe he got ated by a burr.
You guys wouldn't do this, would you?
>>2756020>30 minute walk for groceries is annoying honestlythat's when you use your bike
>>2755319eastoids always full of cope & seethe
the slowest in the group should always be killed and eaten when reaching first camp
>>2754192im weaksauce from having an auto immune disease, but you wouldn't know it from looking at me. This is why I refuse all group hiking trips. I'd become such a liability.
>>2754118Yes
Are you scared to meet a bear?
Nah, I have met bears, my dad handled bears. They are docile creatures, at least the Appalachian bears are. They dwell at the where there are many berry bushes, they love sweet fruits and honey. That is generally their territory, sometimes they are hunted.Sometimes you have to hunt the bear because it is attacking crops or livestock, or in a survival situation. If you are camping in areas with bears, you have to seal or protect your food supplies because they will smell your food and come to your camp looking to eat it.
>>2755895>They dwell where there are many berry bushes, they love sweet fruits and honey. Their meat is most similar to beef, is good for burgers. They really love blueberries and other berry bushes, will eat the whole bush. They are not endangered, but there are limits for hunters and trappers. In the presence of humans they are generally non aggressive and docile.
>>2755880black bears kill just as many people as grizzlies every year (which is still not a large number but still). Make no mistake, a black bear will kill you for fun if it feels like it.
>>2755961per capita
>>2755878Used 2guns last night.,,,first gun-pelletsalt. ,,,,beareturns 1minute,, testing the screen Door?!NOWAY!!,DUMBEAR!,,10mm aim just over his head from bed,,WOOMPOW!,,,Thats LOUD!!,painfull andisorienting!!,,,,,, maybeareturnature?Pic>mooniger.
I hate these motherfuckers like you wouldn’t believe.
>>2751336I understood that reference
>>2751355Bruh WHAT
>>2751355>anon is pepe
>>2751355>venus fly trap maxxingnice
>>2751355yes.. funny
