post your finds! Clovis, woodland, Mississippian, Folsom, lets see them.
>>2847826Yeah fuck off glowie. Collecting, disturbing, and attempting to sell them is very illegal.
>>2847827You sound like a massive faggot
>>2847827it literally isn't
All of these were found near the broad river in South Carolina
>>2847827>glowies using 4chan to hunt down those pesky arrowhead collectors
What goes on /out/ here
>>2847866Is the Llano Estacado mostly privatized farmland and ranch land? I've flown over it a few times and it looks really pretty, I'd love to go visit but I'm not trying to get tangled up in private property laws.
>>2847870There’s some pretty public land. Caprock Canyon, Palo Duro, and Monahans (cool dunes in a state park, small but nice for a car camp). The other two are bigger.
>>2847870I’d say most of that area is locked up in large ranches. Other places to try are the Rita Blanca National Grasslands, Muleshoe NWR, or head more west and wander into the desert on the BLM land around Carlsbad, NM or head way south and hit Big Bend area. White Sands and Guadalupe Peak are cool too.
>>2847074>I have no idea why 10k people are moving here every minute.JAHBS
four weeks of the year are worth going out for, you get two weeks around march/april before it gets too hot and you get two weeks in september/october before the north winds start blowing. other than that you get jack shit for public lands and anything that is public is just dayhikes. this is based on where i lived in texomaland.
Tahquamenon River in Michigan's Upper Peninsula at the beginning of October.
>>2847928I did the Rockies this summer. Next summer I want to do either the pnw or Michigan\Wisconsin
Hey /out/, I live in an area that's sort of set back in the woods, and we get a lot of wildlife. I saw this deer yesterday, and I've never seen one with this coloration. They're all the typical gray or off-brown. Is this a sick deer or just a very rare color variant?
>>2847847piebald, it's an uncommon set of genetics. Unlike albinos, piebalds are leucistic, meaning they have only partial pigment loss. It show up in many animal species. It's not unhealthy, but piebald and albino deer don't survive as long because they're easier to spot.
>>2847849Thanks man I appreciate it
Yup piebald. It’s linked to inbreeding. When I was stationed on Ft Meade there was a thick deer population that never got hunted and never left the base so there were a ton of them.
>>2847874Thank you for your service.
>>2847847Very cool sighting
>my favorite /out/ place are niche high peaks average person might never heard ofWhat kind of person do you imagine?
>>2847338these kinda people are usually insufferable because they have no appreciation for more mundane parts of life and are no fun to be around because of this
>>2847338A person who is probably interesting to be around, but not very available.
>>2847338Someone who hates people. Or maybe that's just me. My favorite mountain range is much smaller than the popular ranges in my area and only has a couple peaks over 7,000 feet. It's not famous for anything. Nobody goes there.
>>2847338>>2847390>>2847600>>2847593Someone that tries way too hard. My man, just go outside. Don't talk about it just do it.
>>2847708Same. I go /out/ to get away from people so I gravitate towards obscure places in general
It's a classic for a reason
>>2842519its so embarrassing to admit but it took me an unreasonably long amount of time to figure out how to ignite a bic haha. i have really poor hand eye coordination or something
>>2842525>>2842530>leukotape>Google it>Flesh colored variation of sports tape for significantly more than the price of the black stuff
>>2842538I maturbate vigorously with charcloth.
>>2842538For the weight of a large ferro rod you can carry over three BicsFor the size of a box of 32 matches you can carry a BicInstead of a Zippo that leaks you can carry a Bic
>>2844839I have had the wheel and the red tab pull apart from the Bic lighter in my hands. I do not think I am using Bic lighters any differently than anyone else but I have lost trust in them. I have always been able to keep a Zippo lighter running.
Set on the desert in south western America, which I enjoy. I am practicing the skills necessary ahead of time because if I can’t start a fire or find water or trap and cook competently prior to embarking with finality, I won’t last. Once I am competent I plan to never return to civilization except maybe every couple of years for a day or so, if that.Any books or recommendations on places or equipment are welcome.
>>2845077I'm not reading any of that. Go outside, dude.
>>2844978You want to make a water trap out there, several.
>>2845077you sound like a woman
>>2845153Fucking LOL you showed him so hard bro!! I bet he went camping after that!
>>2845077>>2845149based. do you guys know hanshan? it was a revelation to hear that youre allowed to not participate in the red dust world. no one had ever given me permission before (not that you need someones permission but such is the entanglement of modern life in a society)
I want to get into some winter camping (pine woodlands) and the colder it is the quieter it is out there. As such I want to take a stove with me for a cosy time, reading and carving things inside a warm tent. I'm on a basic budget but these are what I'm thinking. I don't care to spend extra on titanium even though it is half the weight, I will just take more rest stops. Which of these tents would you choose? Or which other? First tent (picrel) only fits1 person, stove inside main compartment - needs a heat mat
A buddy of mine uses a pop up ice fishing shelter with a hole cut in it for the stove pipe. I’ve camped in it with him a few times and it’s pretty dang warm. This is a good cheap alternative to Arctic ovens or other stove tents with the main drawback being that there’s no floor. It is very easy to set up though which some stove tents (Arctic ovens for example) are not and it’s relatively lightweight. It also has windows which is a nice touch. >>2845549As far as size goes, I haven’t used the tents in your pic but from my experience using Arctic ovens and my buddy’s ice fishing shelter, the stove takes up a ton of space especially if you are using cots like we do where I live. A 10 foot wide arctic oven can really only fit two people. I’d go with the bigger tent for comfort. Ice fishing shelters are pretty roomy and we’re able to sleep three in one although one of the cots needs to be taller and able to clear the shorter ones so they can be arranged in a U shape around the stove if that makes sense.
>>2846576>cross country is good for very low gradeEh I disagree. I’m not about to ski up a mountain with XC skis but you can herringbone up some pretty dang steep stuff on the trail. They are much more versatile when it comes to inclines than you’re implying. Same goes for skate skis which are even better on uphills since you are typically going faster, although you need relatively flat hard pack or groomed trails for skate skis. >snowshoes are for people that can’t skiI’d agree if we’re just talking about snowshoes as a method of traversing the landscape from point A to B. There are better options. But snowshoes are incredibly useful tools. When I hunt in dense woods I like to use XC skis on unmaintained forest roads to get to my hunting area and then I’ll strap on snow shoes to navigate around the trees. Snowshoes are also absolutely vital to have if you are doing any kind of off trail cross country snowmachining. They are very tiring though and I would not use them for extended travel.
>>2846582It sounds like you’re saying XC is NOT good for low grade, btw For me lots of my hikes have long approaches so winter hiking looks like this>xc ski as close as i can to the ascent with snow shoes on my back/sled>stash skis, put on boots and snow shoes>tramp up>butt slide down>enjoy the slightly downhill xc ski outSometimes it feels easier than summer hiking!!!
>>2846026>>2846024how warm does it get ?
>>2846026>>2846024 post results.
Do you attend to your equipment after a good hike?
>>2847294I take care of my boots every other month after they get caked in mud. Clean em up, leather lotion em, shoe-glue any spots that are ripping. They've lasted me so much longer than when I use to just beat them up without caring for em.
>>2847294You should if the mud is bad and fresh. Dry mud is a bitch to get off and can ruin leather. Expensive shoes are good to maintain.I also find it relaxing to take care of my equipment. Cleaning guns, sharpening knives, and polishing/waxing my boots are my favs.
>>2847294sure, at least brush off the mud
>>2847295>>2847296>>2847300>>2847505very low iq posts
No, that's what my husband would do if I had one (I am male). I just throw my hiking sneakers in a bag and they wait for my next adventure
https://www.outdoorlife.com/survival/elk-hunters-missing-colorado-search/They're dead, aren't they? Talked to some folks from the area, I'm a bit north, they say they have no chance. >San Juan Mtns near Durango
>>2841122Once I was stranded in a mountain and had to make my own safe water from a stream, make a small shelter before it got dark, and eat a fuck ton of wild fruits and some plants. I was a retard, hiked too far, and didn't pack enough to safely make it back without dehydrating. It was a scary but memorable experience.I've also been stranded on an island when a small boat of mine took on too much water and got wrecked. That was also comfy, I had some time so I got to make a fire, a small bench and shelter, and catch some fish. All I had were clothes, fishing tools, a knife, a water filter, and a lighter. The water filter came in handy lol.
>>2847566How you gotted resQ 4m Isle?
>>2847567It was an island in a giant lake. I was doing a group camping thing. Some friends looked for me when I didn't return to camp and eventually found me. Then as a joke they left me there a little longer. Honestly, if it was life or death I am a good enough swimmer to have probably escaped but it was fun. The mountain deal I probably would have died if I never found water.
>>2841122Experienced in news articles always means that they just go out multiple times a year; a step above the average person who goes dayhiking in one national park a year maybe. Skill and time out above that level might as well be just the same level of experience to the average person because going out regularly at all is so far from the norm. You read news articles intended for the masses and are surprised when they appeal to the masses.
>>2841126>>2841124I don't know how anyone could get lost. I always know roughly where I am. It is the smaller landscape details that catch me out, finding myself on top of the bluff that I needed to be underneath, or droping too low and ending up in a gorge that I have to back track out of. But I know where tf I am, and know how to backtrack and correct my mistake. So I guess someday I could end up in a situation where I know where I am, but its the wrong place and fir whatever reason I can't get out, ill hit the button on my eperb and hopefully blow some Search and Rescue volunteers minds with how tf I ended up in such a stupid place.
It's officially the first day of autumn!
I want summer back. There are like 2 days in the whole month with any decent visibility and no rain. Soon there won't be any leaves on the trees. Fuck this shithole earth.
>>2841598>heatwaves and drought all summer>suddenly nonstop rainwhat the fuck.
>>2841675Tbh anyone that says "indian summer" is a larper
Time to steal all the neighbors leaves.
>>2841598>Live in the tropics >Never get a comfy autumn or a cozy winterIt’s just summer with 100% humidity or summer with 100% humidity and a slight breeze
How do we solve the tourist issues in western national parks?
Big problem in my jurisdiction, classic dilemma of the commons. Local access vs. Tourist access, local jobs vs tourism revenue, conservation vs development. These parties will always be at war, nobody will accept a middle ground because it's a power struggle. One jurisdiction just banned tourism entirely on environmental grounds which caused a local revolt, another established a ticketing system which prevented locals accessing parks but let millions of tourists with season tickets in. One spent half the municipal budget on Park infrastructure to develop it into glampsights, charging more than ordinary campers could afford. Another was trashed by bums who shat all over the ground and left tons of half buried litter everywhere.
I think the main solution is the jurisdictional fighting over boundaries, whether things are developed within, or outside the park. The tourism revenue goes mostly to the municipality, through shops, businesses, so amenities immediately outside the parks can be built sensibly to service the park. No bullshit eco-builds in park areas where there's no vehicle access. And then you designate high, medium, low density areas of the park, so that animals can generally hang out in the preserve areas. The high traffick areas are basically a day walk loop around parts of the park which all have road access, a human conveyor belt of day hikers. The medium traffic areas can be reached fairly easily but don't "go" anywhere. So for bird watchers, campers.It's often good design to make a handcuff shaped path so you get two day loops on either end, four paths, but only two entry points. This means that you can strategically close one and make the trail one-way in off peak season. And you want to avoid people exiting and entering at the same time, which is a key reason to make the number of stops on the trail Asymetrical, this also means there's more places for through hikers to stop towards the end, in off season.
>>2826654Not him but i'm a western park ranger and live in one (not the interpretive kind).>>2826640Tourists will always be retarded. I could rant for hours about the dumb shit I deal with. Even yesterday was fucking shitty with some retarded hippie I had to remove.Short answer is that there is no fixing it. Humans will always be idiots.Education would work if anyone cared or paid attention. I think instilling respect would also help. In the 70's the anti-pollution campaigns in the USA actually did a lot of work and I wish we'd bring it back. Right now one of the big campaigns is "be bear aware."Making a park less accessible helps. I wish people knew the difference between a national park and national forest/wildland. If you want freedom, to harvest, hunt, or fuck around, go to a national forest. If you want to just hike and enjoy nature, maybe camp, go to a park.God I fucking hate so many people. Littering, poaching, dogs off leash in wildlife areas, not following rules on signs, trying to build a little shelter in the woods because you think I won't come down and tear it up and you wanna larp as ted, etc.I really hate people who come strapped for bear and refuse to realize that bear spray works better. Especially if they try and bait a bear to attack them so they can think they acted in self defense when they put themselves in danger. Like fuck. Some of those retards will provoke a bear like a white guy sitting outside a hood gas station and shouting nigger then act surprised when shit goes south.
>>2847576>Making a park less accessible helps. I wish people knew the difference between a national park and national forest/wildland. If you want freedom, to harvest, hunt, or fuck around, go to a national forest. If you want to just hike and enjoy nature, maybe camp, go to a park.This is why I like the DYOR mentality of National Forest, the lack of infrastructure and advertising campaigns keeps enough people out until it inevitably ends up on social media.
>>2840152I like this quote but if he hadn't killed himself someone else would have if they were stuck in a car with him for more than 3 hours.
Why do you not have a furry four legged best friend to come /out/ with you anon? They are the perfect hiking and camping companions.
>>2847388Nepali Himalayas.Don't feel too to jealous, I'm a cityfag as well and that's not really my dog. Just some mutt I befriended on my way up Everest last year.Here he is at 5150m
>>2847509*On my way up TO Everest
>>2847186Dogs dramatically increase your odds of being mauled to death by a bear. They fight wolves all the time.
>>2847598oh i don't know. we tend to go through the same paths on my property. he marks his territory and shits out there. my theory is the scent keeps the black bears away.
>>2847509>be mutt>just doing mutt things probably eating scraps in some nepali village>meet random white guy>he takes you up into the mountains to see incredible things>he leaves>never see him again
Pro tip: you can't
>>2846750if andes is so beautiful why do you need to polish that photo with 6 trillions photoshop filters?
>>2846878>bare rock and sparse veg are plain ugly.only if you are dead inside.
>>2846941it's AI generated
>>2846941>>2846967Same place on google street so I guess no filters here and certainly no ai
>>2846816>cushion plantsAccurate
Why do you "need" permits for the JMT and how are they actually enforced?
>>2847450this is actually a good answer
>>2847478>>2847485Thanks. I wrote both those posts.
The US should target 250 million as a goal stable population. Once we went over that mark, things started to get overcrowded everywhere.
>>2847492I agree. Please kill yourself right now so that I can go camping without reservations in state parks and without seeing other people. >>2847485>>2847487I'm going to need you two to also off yourselves. For environmental conservation and for peace in the outdoors.
>>2847495I'm in a rustbelt state. We're already doing our part. Clean out California, Texas, and New Jersey to get down to 250 million.
