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Don't buy it if you don't need it

But if you need it, get it on sale!

Post any deals on outdoors shit. Actually good aliexpress/temu finds welcome

Here's one to start
>https://www.expedusa.com/collections/sale
A few fairly light and heavily insulted sleeping pads for cheap. Just got one for deep winter camping.
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>>2850550
sorry but i will never need alieexpres/temu shit. what do i want with cheaply made slave and child labor products?
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>>2850567
Your iPhone isn't cheap, but it's made with slave labor too. We all know this. Most of the shit you consume is made with dubious ethics.
I have never bought anything from TEMU, Ali Express, or Wayfair (if that's the one I'm thinking of, the alleged trafficking site), but avoiding slavery is not a good reason to avoid them.
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I need a down sleeping bag. Also a pair of walkie talkies, lightweight and durability being priority. Pls give recommends

deals, I see merino dot tech, I have had this brand of wool baselayers, pretty fragile, but also they are very very cheap for wool. you can get additional 10 percent off with the right discount code, on top of the black friday sale
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>>2850131
the only thing OP consooms is big foots cock on his ass
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>>2851623
>Also a pair of walkie talkies, lightweight and durability being priority
Two Baofeng UV-5R's

What's a sleeping bag you recommend?
I slept two weeks in Norway this summer with a random 5°C sleeping bag, and it wasn't that warm.
I'm planning to go sleep on some mountains this autumn and I want to get comfortable with lower temperatures.
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>>2850973
well I'm looking forward to your review when you receive it, but i would be surprised if it's actually -10. at least, i bet it's worse in terms of how easy it absorbs water, down loses warming power very fast if it gets wet, and good bags do special treatment or something on the feathers

i looked at chink bags last year or so and i remember naturehike for example is similar to any western brand for most things (sleeping bags, backpacks, tents) that's why i'm sceptical

also it says 0c Comfortable Online Temperature in your picture, whatever that is. and look at the scale in pic related, maybe it's just false advertisement and you bought a 0c bag, not -10. but let us know when you receive it, maybe i'm wrong
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>>2851082
>well I'm looking forward to your review when you receive it
Yes I'll review it.
The picture of the bag is from a thinner bag of the same brand/type, they are just too lazy to photo the green one that mine will arrive in.

When it arrives in a few days I'll go lay down inside it in the harsh cold and post the results. If it's anything like the other stuff I've got then there will be no issues with the description.
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>>2847903
You are a great story teller. Albuquerque no less.
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I don't use either a sleeping bag or a sleeping mat. I just sleep on the forest floor on my poncho.

This is what I wear at night, it is sufficient for freezing temps

100% Cotton T-Shirt
100% Woolen T-shirt
100% Woolen Sweater
100% Woolen Sweater
100% Woolen Poncho
Woolen Long Johns
Sheepskin Pants
Woolen Pants
Military sheepskin-lined overcoat (those things north-koreans wear)
Woolen Balaclava (ski mask)
Woolen Cap

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>>2851611
Oh, I forgot one item, also a minkfur coat.

Time to throw rocks onto new ice so it makes funny noise
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>>2851406
I wish we had proper snow here :(
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>>2851522
snow not being proper? that sounds terrible, nigel

Mountain hikers: how do you estimate the physical demand of a tour ahead of time?
I’m not talking about technical difficulty, just the level of physical exertion.
I’ve been using a simple rule of thumb for myself:
If a route averages around 100 m of elevation gain per kilometer, I consider it easy. A hard route to me is roughly 200 m/km.
I don’t factor in total distance much, since most of my hikes fall between 9 and 14 km anyway.
Do you use a similar metric?
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>>2851298
>he's on a trail listed in alltrails
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Where I'm from some guys organized and created a categorized chart of all of the near by routes its very useful, with this thing you can plan ahead your hike and also measure your endurance and stuff like that, sorry for the pic but its in español. You get the idea anyway.
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>>2851411
I will find your trail
I will list it on alltrails
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>>2851425
>It is important to note that elevation gain and horizontal distance should be proportional.
They should define that. That's why I mentioned the gain over distance in the OP. It makes a difference.
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>>2851267
>estimate the physical demand of a tour ahead of time
I don't
>level of physical exertion
mumbo jumbo
>Do you use a similar metric?
no

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Is it a death wish? I see those fuckers all the time when deer hunting and the deer are overpressured in the area near me....
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>>2851049
Squirrel tastes better than chicken.
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>>2851177
Squirrels help propagate oak trees.
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>>2851040
Game wardens might fuck with you. I've seen people get fucked with for having a pistol on them during hunting season.
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>>2851216
These fuckers 'propagate' like 20 butternut trees every year and always next my fence or foundation.
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>>2851049
What of my lady appreciates squirrel pelts because she can make something cute out of them for our next Rendezvous?

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Thoughts?

5" and brown handle
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>>2848193
Was just an example, I'm not here to moralfag
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>>2841892
mora peaks at companion and everything above that is wasted money
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>>2848193
Supporting the business and people of Ukraine is NOT the same as endorsing the the gov't or it's leaders, Gov't is the same everywhere, it fucking suxx.

>>2848216
they are decent knoifes for the price, yeah

>>2848399
dubs have spoken

I don't like the Gar(((berg))), I'd much prefer a full tang version of the Kansbol in CPM3V with Micarta handles but that's never going to happen.
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>>2848197
>macbook air
gay
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>>2848197
You inspired me somewhat.
Had no idea they made knives, thought it was just carving tools. $39.

>only feeds you for a half of the year
what is the winter equivalent of chicken
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>>2850945
Adding supplemental light in the warm white spectrum will keep hens laying through the winter. They need at least 14 hours of light or they'll turn off egg production. Keeping them laying year round will shorten their lives however. I suggest having enough hens that you can save eggs for winter. Water glassing works great and can preserve eggs for a year or more. You can also crack them into molds and freeze them. You just have to get into the habit of planning ahead and moving them to the fridge to thaw before you can use them.
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>>2850945
Chickens
see >>2850958
I never had issue with my chickens in winter even when water would freeze and we eventually had to get it heated
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>>2850945
duck
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>>2850945
penguin, I guess.
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>>2850945
We had an old fashioned stone root cellar on our property that was leftover from the original 1690 farm. The only mod my dad did on it was make a thick wooden door that was more of a plug that would hold it shut and keep vermin out. So when I was a kid we kept our potatoes, carrots, beets, and squash in it over winter. We grew so much that about 2/3s went in for winter, which was perfect because we ate that shit everyday in the bleak months.

By around February or March if we were lucky the root cellar was empty and suddenly we were eating Campbell's bullshit and Spaghetti-Os.

Anyway, for me the winter food-of-plenty was in the root cellar. Pic related but not the same one.

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SUV vs Truck. What is the more /out/ vehicle?
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>>2843395
My Sedan
comfy
never failed me on service roads with the right tires
and no I don't go rock climbing of course or river crossing
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>>2843408
Bump
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Landrover Defender no contest.
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>>2843395
Taking a train to an area closest and then a bus to the immediate area and walking into the desired location. That's how I do it. I like it because lugging my gear into town and along is like a pre-workout for when I start trekking later on. By the time I get "out" I am warmed up and able to shift my arse along proper.
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>>2843395
This 2012 Porsche Cayenne S is my daily driver (pic shameless stolen, mine has roof rails), so obviously I take it /out/. It's very nice and fancy, I like it.

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Are you guys ready for Everest to become a ski resort now?
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>>2848437
all fun n games til you hit one of the mile deep crevasses that are barely visible and die.
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Falling to your death with skis in your ass isn't skiing.
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>>2848447
it's a mongrel flex for normalfags
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Wouldn't skiing down a fresh slope that no one else ever does cause avalanches as you disrupt the surface tension of the snow?
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>>2849914
it's falling with style

Does jogging on rural dirt roads count as /out/?
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https://polls.io/sktus/vote
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>>2848164
having sex in the woods on acid is /out/
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>>2847374
Depends on whether it involves batoning or not.
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>>2847374
no
you're in a man-made structure
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>>2848164
your front-porch is outdoors
it's not "the outdoors"

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KEYSTONE WAS THE FIRST RESORT TO OPEN YESTERDAY AT 3PM!
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>>2848242
>>2848241
I was born with a complete knowledge of the outdoors because I'm not a woman
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East Coast resorts are starting to open too after the recent storm cycle <3
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>>2846708
Doing Powder king a couple times this year hopefully.
>>2847913
There's zero dangerous features at Zermatt. Unless you're going waaaaay the fuck out into the mountains you're fine, and even if you do the rick fucks doing the helicopter tours will probably be there to rescue you within the hour. It is a sweet fucking hill and being piss drunk in a swiss mountain bunker complex is one of the most fun things a man can do
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>>2846711
fuckin A, we got totally cucked since this. Basically been around 50 in town when it should be 40 or less, tomorrow might be a record high temp, and the mountains have only gotten an inch or two in the last month. Bachelor was supposed to open on Friday but they've pushed it back now.
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Colorado anons report in

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>>2851886
Best raspberry. They only spread if you let them tip root
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chili anon here. i sprayed TOBACCO solution against the lice yesterday and this shit finally seems to work. it is kinda illegal here but since i did it indoors i figured i dont kill any good insects.
is there any reason not to do this other than retarded germoid laws?
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Do those biodegradable peat pots work? I want to use them for cucumbers
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>>2852550
It's like a plant pot made out of soil. Yes.
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>>2852759
>>2852759
>>2852759
new thread

New Steve1989MREInfo just dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A92a3sOVJ1g

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>goes innawoods avoiding law enforcement for almost half a year
>was actually dead the entire time spending only one week in the washington wilderness
so that's it isn't it, there's no way modern man can ever make it in the wild ever again
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>>2845081
yes it is, cobson.
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>>2845771
Those aren't even the same person.
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>>2844817
>Havaii
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>>2844916
>Get it right nazi
is everything you dont like a nazi? how tf does that even work in the real world
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>>2845771
I didn't realize starving could change your eye color.

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now that the dust has settled. does a bear shit in the woods?
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Better question:
There's nearly half a million bears in the U.S.
So what happens to them when they die of old age?
You'd think hikers would come across atleast a few every year....
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>>2850949
They do.
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>>2850949
>die of old age
Bears are omnivores and cannibals, when a bear dies it becomes meat, other bears eat it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfo233Q6aOg
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>>2848061
And a jeet shits in the street
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>>2851096
We've got so many of them here but I have yet to see any street shits. They litter like their hands are on fire, they dress up in their finest clothes so that they can drop shit everywhere. It wouldn't surprise me if they do shit down alleyways or maybe it's too cold. I've been stolen from by 2 of them now.


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