This is a thread for enjoying a pipe while doing outdoor activities. If you ask why this belongs on /out/, you've never spent an evening by the campfire with a pipe or bowl or blunt or spliff or joint or vape or edible or dab or oil, silently enjoying the nature around you, and you're missing out.>How to get startedPurchase a cheap glass pipe (or a simple wooden chillum) and a bag of some quality outdoor or mid-grade weed from a dispensaryor your usual guy. You will need a lighter and something to clear the bowl witha paperclip works well if you don't have a proper tool.Pack the bowl loosely, enough for airflow but enough to stay lit. Light the corner of the bowl and inhale slow. Smokeslower than you think you need to, the flower tastes best when it isn't cherried too hot. Tamp and corner or re-light as needed. If you stillhave trouble, try different methods on YouTube until you find one that works for you. Or you can just roll it or whatever.>smoking ganja will get you arrestedOriginally, the government found that weed smokers, following a careful study of the statistics (at a time when hemp was a cash crop) were just peaceful people who wanted to grow their own medicine, enjoy jazz and engage in mild tomfoolery. Nowadays, weed is being legalized against while the average American thrashes in the thralls of poverty. Put two and two together. Marijuana is just another good thing that was under attack by the government.>muh tobaccoNot the time or place (unless you're European.) Start your own thread.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
fuck off junkies
>>2880068total straightedge death
>>2880068Imagine being so mentally weak that a minor altering of your perception of reality is beyond your ability to enjoy. You know, how humans have done for thousands of years. Christian larping moron
We rocking on yall
I didnt mind weed until I had to live next to some pothead losersThese jobless pieces of shit do literally nothing all day except stink up the neighborhood and assault anyone who complainsNow I hate weed and I hate smokersFuck weed and fuck the junkie trash that makes it their whole pathetic life
Would you still hunt or fish if animals could talk?
>>2880324and you don't need to be a faggot, but here you are.
>>2880324dear gameif you don't want to be hunted, then why are you made of food?
>>2880324Not eating meat makes me miserable. What kind of masochistic self flagellating fag intentionally causes himself pointless anguish? Like you dont get anything out of not eating meat other than becoming a sickly weakling with a superiority complex. Sorry Bambi, im still going to shoot ya
>>2873706???
Second year without a car cuz I had to sell it for money to move out of detoilet. Last year I was able to borrow a family members truck a couple times though was out of luck otherwise. No access to said truck this year, but I bought my hunt/fish combo in may assuming I would be hunting in November. Anyone ever try renting? I literally just need some wheels, but I've never rented a car before, and I am not sure if they would be cool with me using it to haul game. My idea is to rent for a few hours at a time in october to check my cameras which are already out there, and then again for a couple days in november during resident hunt season. Idk about prices yet so it might just be too expensive, juice (meat) not worth the squeeze. Any thoughts/ideas?
I think this time of year is my favourite time of year. Late August to Early September, maybe most of August and September. End of Summer, beginning of Autumn. It's just the perfect weather. Not too hot, not too cold, the sun sets at a great time, it feels like the sunsets last longer too. Theres a slight chill that arrives at night too when you get to early September.
every time of year is the best somewhere, winter for further south, summer for further north etc. my favorite time to hike in the mountains here in the Rockies is late September into early October though, for fall colors, no bugs and pleasantly cool temperatures. Any time between October and April is great to be on the Colorado plateau.
Dogshit time of year. Trees and plants are tired out and browning off, flies at their worst, still too hot. Winter and spring, and autumn if it's dry, are the best seasons. Early summer is too, but only if it doesn't heat up to quick. Everything after mid June is bullshit.
yeah maybe in the ez pz valleys all the mountain trails are going to close for winters in september mid or end fml
>>2879113Thats why Late August/Early September is best>>2878952Not here, its where the weather is still nice but theres a slight chill to it.
>>2878441Still too hot here
Have you ever done a canoe trip? How hard is it, relative to hiking/bushwhacking? It seems like a comfy way to go.
>>2880405yea in Ontario it's pretty much the only way to backcountry camp since hiking is shit hereit's extremely comfy since the view is far better, less bugs bothering you and you can fish anywhereonly downside is portage
>>2880405>Have you ever done a canoe trip?I often do kayaking tripsbut as I'm a krautmy tours are all in Europe and the only place actually /out/ here are in eastern europe, where I rarely amso I often have to camp at official camping sites with all the restrictionsstill>How hard is it, relative to hiking/bushwhacking? easier>It seems like a comfy way to go.yes way more comfythe main advantages>can take more stuff than you'd be able to carry otherwiseComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2880405is a helmet really necessary?>>2880427>>2880431Interesting. It looks deceptively easy. Do your arms and shoulders take a beating, the way hips and knees and feet get fucked up on multi-day hikes? Do you need a lower minimum standard of health/strength?
>>2880405It can be the easiest kind of trip if you do it on a flatwater river downstream point to point. Very little paddling effort needed, just let the current take you. Lots of long big rivers to do this on in the usa, and even more if you can do a little whitewater.Another easy way for day trips I like to do is paddle a river estuary, timing it so the incoming tide takes you upriver and ride the outcoming tide back, very easy and comfy.>>2880440Yes if you want to put in serious miles it will work your upper body. But no it is less demanding in general, I've known plenty of fatter river users, and heavy drinking is really common. Helmets are for whitewater, no need in flatwater.
hardest/most dangerous thing is rapids in rivers. specifically if there are rocks and it's shallow where you scrape/hit and there is downed timber to get hung on. other than that paddling is easy. chop in open water might seem dangerous but it's really not if you know the basics of paddling. often times it's the safer option to portage around the rapids that aren't easily navigated while paddling.
perfidious rodent. come to my bird feeder again and consequences will never EVER be the same.
>>2877105It's never been more over
he hasnt shown up in a while. maybe I drove him away.
>>2876925Squirrels are slowly becoming one of my favorite animals. I like to see them out when walking, and there's a giant tree right outside my apartment window that always has a couple scurrying about.
>>2876925I was raised to see them as cute since my grandma fed them.Fat grey bastards are everywhere in the city.I basically live in the woods now and oddly I don't see that many, nothing like the city. From what I have seen we have black and grey squirrels around here.Been thinking of culling the grey squirrel population around my property just to encourage the black squirrel population to take over. They look nicer.
>>2877768I started squirrel hunting a while back but I haven't gone out in the last 2 years. Part of it is I'm busy but the other part is they're so fucking cute I've started feeling bad about killing them
Lately soup's been a hyperfocus of mine, specifically ones I can freeze in those oversized ice tray things, then heat up and put in a thermos to take innawoods. Something drinkable that has decent protein, and also won't make me paint the heels of my boots in the middle of nowhere. Been looking at pea soups, just made some potato soup with cottage cheese for extra protien. I have some lentil curry in my freezer.I'm also thinking about a freeze dryer but that's a ways off. Any /out/ soup recommendations? What do you guys like to eat in the sticks?
I know a lot of people love coffee while they're /out/ but I hate it, gives me the shits.The middle of nowhere is the second to last place I'd want to have the shits.
>>2880090didn't even notice, hell yeahWhat kind of dried meat? Jerky, biltong, summer sausage? What was the recipe like?
>>2880088I mean if you like soup you can do "orange soup" that I often make at home.500g sweet potato500g pumpkin (butternut squash is good)250g carrot 2 medium yellow onions50g bacon cubes or chopped up slices2 tsp ground cumin2 tsp ground ginger2 tsp turmeric1 tsp ground cloves (if you use whole cloves put em in a tea egg or something to fish em out)2 tsp gochujang if you like a bit of heat1.5 liter stock. I prefer mushroom stock but chicken is ok too.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2880092as far as i know he made that meat himself in an oven at home while only using an disgusting amount of salt. i mean it checks out it was an non nondescript jar and a loose bag of dry corn kernels. the only recipe i can give you is that you dump all of your stuff and your backup water supply into the pot and cook it until it smells nice. atleast that what we did. pictured is the thingy he cooked the soup in, but it was way,way, way more burned
>>2880088I go with:Chickpeas flakes, Instant mashed potatoes, dry fried onions and some spices.Just add boiling water, weights almost nothing.For protein I bring dry sausage, it's compact and very protein dense.
Does anyone else use public charcoal BBQs at local parks? I often see immigrant and ethnic families using them but never white people. I like using them once or twice a summer, it's a fun outdoor dinner. Does your city or town even have outdoor BBQ? ITT: we discuss how to best utilize public charcoal BBQs.
I have used those a couple times, including at campgrounds, including with family. Never particularly close to urban areas (those are full of Mexicans for some reason). If the grate is particularly nasty and uncleanable we would just wrap each strip of it in foil and it would be fine
Because white people hate theirs family
>>2878496english please
Ive seen used needles and human shit inside them before so I think I will pass. Maybe back when there was a baseline expectation of human decency sure but not today.
>>2877391I remember my family using them from time to time when I was a kid and tbis was still a white country.This kind:>>2878241I was actually just thinking about them recently. Wondered if they were still put in most public parks like when I was a kid. I imagine the browns use them very irresponsibly leading to most being removed.
How do you deal with normgrels who refuse to buy any proper gear to go on an actual hike after asking you to take them with you? I fucking hate these people, if you can't even bother with buying a decent pair of boots don't even ask.
>>2880033What do you define as a decent pair of boots though OP. My gf was insistent on me buying a 400 buck pair of meindl shoes before she took me to the alps for the first time (Max 1700m+/- per day) and I refused. I used my bottom of the line Columbias cause I wanted to get rid of them and surprisingly I survived.
>>2880033I don't give a fuck what people wear when theyre hiking, but it is hilarious to see yuropeans wearing their slippers, capri pants and their little faggy purses.
>>2880033Try teaching them? If their interest is legitimate they'll listen. If not then yeah thry can fuck off.
>>2880033Gear wont stop people from being retards. I went on a out trip with a guy once for his first time and despite him bringing all this gear and over preparing, bringing even more than me, he managed to get such bad sun burn that he gave up and went home after a day and a half. He didn't know that if you're gonna spend all day in the sun, that you'll probably burn. Even more so at higher elevations.
>>2880033>bootsYou don't need boots to hike.Stop acting like a fucking woman. >>2880116Different anon, but I like to hike up mountain streams nude. The only thing you want are a pair of crocs or water shoes and some insect repellent to ward off the horseflies.
6.5/10>mediocre hiking trails>great paddling trails>South part is overcrowded and dull compared to rest of the continent >North is slightly better but fuck ton of blackflys and mosquito during the summer
>>2869708Georgia (US), 6/10. The Appalachians are better than not having mountains at all but everything else is garbage, even the beaches suck since the water is all muddy and gross.
>>2869744I came back to this thread, not sure if I posted, to find that I posted first. Still happy with how underrated my state is.A local fishibg YouTuber is slightly famous. People in the comments are asking him where he's fishing and telling him he's blessed to have such good fishing. Meanwhile, most locals who have something to say are usually bitching about the quality of the fishing here. It's hilarious.
>>2869708>Saltwater fishing some of the best in the country but our fisheries are horribly mismanaged and could be the best on earth if not for our corrupt ass state government>Freshwater fishing is good in the far east and west>Hunting sucks ass, we have a long deer season but there is no public land in the parts where people actually live and what little there is gets so crowded you might as well just write off weekend hunting.>Lots of squirrels though>Pine savannahs in the east are heavenly places to hike in the cooler months>Great coastal parks and barrier islands>Appalachia is straight up dog shit for hiking, yeah it's cool outside for parts of the year but the good trails are crowded and there are generally only interesting vistas at the end of trails.>Afaik all of our beaches have public access>Gets more crowded and expensive every year>Doing anything innawoods is fucking miserable from the heat and bugs June through August>Winters mild enough outside of the mountains you can do all the innawoods you wantAll in all 6.5/10 we're still better than Virginia and South Carolina and Tennessee.
>>2871787Sounds comfy
>>28697082/10>prices suck on everything but corn>billion acres of flat farmland makes it unreasonably hot in spring/summer>recreationally mostly just private owned campgrounds>public fishing holes are overfished/river fish are inedible in some places>anything north of Urbana is no man's land filled with subhumans and enablers
can anyone recommend a good pair of hiking boots? price doesn't really matter, i'm just trying to get a decent pair of boots that won't bust a hole straight through the bottom like my last pair (my walking posture is fine)
>>2843610I have a pair of meindl boots, not entirely sure what model but they are in the comfort fit line which allows for my wider foot to actually fit. I'm 180cm 100kg. I've used them for at least 1200km and they seem to be holding up very well with some regular maintenance and cleaning. The tread is showing wear at the heel because I have poor form. Might need to replace the soles in the next few hundred kms. My dad also has a pair of meindls and he had them re-soled a while back after god knows how much use. They're doing as well now as in their first few hikes.My wife has a similar pair of Hanwag boots. Really similar story to my own. My previous boots were Lowa but their shape couldn't handle my wider foot, and they perished before their time because of it. They did feel a bit lighter, but also less supportive than the Meindls. The Meindls can get more than toasty and I bring a third pair of socks because of it, but I run hot in any context.In my experience meindl and hanwag both are brands that just fucking slap and keep going for years and years. Lowa seems a more casual but good boot to me. You can also consider if trail runners isn't a better option for you. Most of all don't pick a boot and learn to love it. Go to outdoor specialty stores and try out a bunch of shoes. Find what you like and talk to the people there. Dont buy the first pair that fits, either. Really take your time to make a shortlist before choosing.
>>2843610>can anyone recommend a good pair of hiking boots?climate?terrain?biome?I'm just gonna assume something like <3000m elevation in temperate seasonal climateso rarely snow, mostly montane to alpine zonethink European alps, Pyrenees or Appalachian>Meindlsome of the best, long lived hiking boots for the described scenario that exist>Lowamy other pair of boots is from themand all my casual stuff (yes I wear low rise hiking boots every day)Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2844129love boots like that. my best ever pair of boots were British DMS combat boots from the 1980s, pic rel. the leather has worn out but the soles are still good and solid.DMS means Direct Moulded Sole. the sizing is in mondopoint btw.I have invested in a pair of Solovair 11 eye derby boots, they fit really similarly, look similar, similar construction, are breaking in very well, but don't have a fully gusseted tongue so they are not as waterproof. they are also not really made for hiking/marching, but everyone gave me shit about my combat boots but they were the comfiest I ever had once i broke them in and i tried all kinds of fancy boots, like scarpa terras which were also good, but no better imho than my simple, full leather combat boots. So fuck it, i'm doing mountains in my solovairs and no one can stop me.
>>2851625>he doesn't know about stuffing them with dry newspaper>>2854486disregard this anon, he is gay. embrace the bog.
>>2880175All of clothing items are inherently disposable anon. I have an entire box of nylon riggers belts that's normally sold to the military and they still end up crapping out by the 4 year mark or less. But for 14-30$ you really can't go wrong with a endlessly adjustable belt.
I found these little cabins or huts out in the middle of nowhere Siberia. There are these little, what I assume, ATV trails headed to it. I followed them to a dry riverbed where they ended. The riverbed heads to a lake next to a mountain and there are no roads to it. What the fuck are these and who goes there and why?
>>2879943Watch "Happy People, A Year in the Taiga"
>>2880129both apple and bing maps offer way better satellite imagery in a lot of places. also my laptop is kind of old and shit and it really struggles with google maps, it eats up a ton of ram or cpu or something. at least my desktop is fine
Found another one. Looks like a farm out in the middle of nowhere. Not even a road to it, just some very rough and elaborate tracks heading to a "main" rode. Makes you wonder how they even found this spot to make it in the first place.66.372539, 142.910323
>>2879943https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbhPIK-oBvA
Found another one.
I'm planning a trip to Moab. Going to take 128 from Cisco.Also planning on visiting CanyonlandsI've been there before, this time I'm bringing my bike and will do some riding /n/ is useless what are some bike trails I can do in the areas that aren't too difficult.What are some nice places to hike.I was up at Negro Bill before.Looking for other recommendations
>>2879290Go to upheaval dome in canyon lands then hike the short trail till it ends then go down the trail that says NOT A TRAIL then hike the rim of the dome off trail by yourself and have a super comfy desert time taking breaks in the shade of boulders. Pic related
>>2879418thanks for the suggestions. I have been to Hidden Valley twice before. Parriott Mesa looks great, I'll try that.I have no plans going back to Archies. Been there plenty, and its always busy af.>>2879425Thanks for that. anymore canyonland suggestions?still looking for bike trails recommendations
>>2879290There are cool canyons around Lake Mead and Lake Powell that are exposed right now because the reservoirs are at their lowest level since the dams were built.Might be your only chance to see them if the lakes refill.Or they'll never be full again and we'll get our canyons back....
The needles area of Canyonlands is excellent, a little far from Moab There's actually some good off-trail stuff in Arches. Like Lost Spring Canyon or going beyond the trail in the Devil's Garden area, though the Devil's Garden loop trail is a great trail itself. Fiery Furnace, Tower Arch, Herdina Park, Ring Arch are all nice and not crowded.Fisher Towers is coolPritchett Arch and that whole area.Wish I could give you bike trails, been meaning to get into mountain biking myself
>>2879696>Lake PowellI liked it there way more than I thought I would.
Alone airs tonight, lets get the seasonal thread going as they are some of my favorite comfy threads. This year its "Alone: World Championship" This season, survivalists from seven different countries are represented including the United States x3 kek, Canada, Wales, Australia, Slovenia, Portugal, and New Zealand. It is set within the Arctic Circle along the rugged Richardson Mountains in the Northwest Territories of Aklavik, about 150km from where they filmed Season 11Hopefully its more interesting as I found the last few seasons lacking
It should've been Aaron, guy was really skilled and tough for lasting that long on only hares, even if he did whineZiga made mistake after mistake but was carried by moose fat
>>2880226No way, he did it to himself. He wasted all of his arrows on squirrels so they when he did have an opportunity on a moose, he only had one arrow capable of taking it and he put that solidly into a tree instead of waiting for a clear shot. No, I say Aaron earned his slow rabbit starvation to the L.
Now that the dust has settled, what did /out/ think? Honestly I don't know if I'll watch another season. It's playing too much on the drama now. And there's nothing new. At least last season had a new location with new challenges. I think if you had better contestants last season who were more prepared, another Africa season would be good. The fact that the season only lasted 30 days is a good sign that it's a good environment for a survival show, give that a couple more seasons and let contestants develop better strategies.But if they go back to the Arctic or near Arctic yet again? What's the point? We didn't see anything this season that we didn't already see in previous seasons.
>>2880240this will probably be the last season for me too. i can't handle how feminine everything is. and it's all exactly the same. >muh family >muh past struggle>muh trauma and healingstfu and save it for the therapist. talk to the camera about some useful knot you're tying and why it's helpful
>>2880240 History has made some +/-1hr montages of ziga's footage. I guess this is pretty much all you would expect to see in a survival show.They made some on the guy who won s11 as well.Looks like next year i'll just wait for these if they make them again.Editing of this and previous seasons made skip trough most of the episodes anyway.Real shame when you think of what this show could be.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qr-Avy3jjY&pp=ygUKWmlnYSBhbG9uZQ%3D%3Dhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Y_NBsM5x8&pp=ygUKWmlnYSBhbG9uZQ%3D%3D
What does your backpacking kit look like & what are your favorite pieces of gear you have that are unusual or greatly increased your quality of life on the trail? This is my basic kit alot of the gear is 10 years old or more I have recently added a camp chair & a little bidet that goes on a water bottle. My favorite piece of gear is not pictures but it is a frybake pan which is basically a lightweight dutch oven I will be using it on my trip at the end of this month to roast a chicken & make stuffing.
>>2876655I've had very good luck with the instinct. Really good set of functions, if you're looking at the full list a lot is just preloaded screen settings for different exercises.The solar does work but if you're carrying a battery bank the watch charges very fast. You will need the Fenix if you want to navigate from the watch; instinct only loads gps breadcrumb tracks.
>>2880130Knives are excellent tools. The most stupid use i can think rn for ir is open better and easier a plastic bag
>>2880130for severing your limb when it gets stuck under a rock
Do you carry an emergency space blanket and a rain poncho on your outing?They weight next to nothing
>>2877023yarrow, plantain, cayenne, heal all etcmaybe some gauze
Hello everyoneOffboard faggot here, I'm going to montana in October of this year. Gonna be staying in redlodge, which is an hour away from yellowstoneAnyone have advice about the best spots to visit? It's a huge park and while it won't be the only thing I'll visit, Im definitely going to try to spend maybe 3 or 4 days there. I'm going for 7 in total. I'd also appreciate any suggestions for other things to do in southern montana, mostly, but I am open to seeing parts of wyoming, tooI'd like to be able to see some kind of big lake and go on a boat or something. Hotsprings would be cool. I assume there are atleast some spots as it's a le supervolcanoSome things I've looked up already are>bear tooth senic drive>a couple trails around red lodge>a senic dinner train I couldn't get tickets for :(>a zoo in billings to be able to see all the yellowstone animals in a more controlled and safer settingAny suggestions and advice would be appreciated!
>>2880288for me it's Norris, love it especially in the early morning or late evening, it's not crowded at all and I think it's the most "scenic" geothermal area. To be fair going early or late is always the best to avoid crowds, but Norris is practically empty sometimes at those hours
>>2880285>Mammoth springs.There is literally a great hike that starts right behind the hotel. Beaver Ponds loop trail. Lots of griz back there- careful. it is drier in that part of the park but still awesome with Mt Everts being massive and the Yellowstone river running at the base. There used to be swimmable hot springs there along the gardiener river but they got washed away in the floods
>>2880287careful- its the rut and they are mean and ornery- dont be a boomer statistic
>>2880293Oh yeah, playing it super cautious I went nowhere neat them
>>2880281I bet a lot of their workers are foreign seasonals, like at ski resorts, and maybe those have been harder to get under the current adminThe food quality is probably always hit or miss though, if its at a place the mass of public can afford
