Weather is starting to get cold and I wanted to get you guys opinion so I figured I'd get the wool general goingWhat's an acceptable blend in your guys experience for /out/ings? I'm looking at getting one of those L.L. Bean birdseye sweaters and it's 80 wool 20 Rayon. Will the rayon be detrimental at all? Anyone have experience?
A bit heavy but quite litteraly the best sweater I own for extreme cold
>>2865131What country? Most military sweaters are thin bullshit these days.
>>2865131what is it called, like an Austrian army sweater, right?
>>2851736dude, this Soviet overcoat is crap, I’m telling you this as a person from a post-Soviet country. we used them in the army for cleaning floors or for dummies at shooting ranges
>>2865162They did win a world war in them. Just saying.Also I had a bulgarian greatcoat. It was scratchy as hell and stank so much (mothballs I guess) I threw it away, but it sure was warm.
>spreads itself like a wildfire>survives winters with ease>asserts dominance, impossible to get out of your garden>pretty yellow flower>provides you tasty knobs for next to no effortHelianthus tuberosus for you botanlets. you're welcome.
>>2865150Is the WW2 trauma finally behind us? Idk if that applies to the US but every grandma in (western?) Europe had a hatred for this and rutabaga
>>2865154If they killed it i'll resurrect it. I'll resurrect the british kitchen at that too if need be.
>>2865174Resurrect the british people first
why does it seem like all you people want to go out and be “in le nature” but don’t give a single fuck about preserving ecosystems or native biodiversity? You feel entitled to go out and be in nature and treat it like your personal fucking playground, damaging the ecosystem and demanding roads and trails be paved through the wilderness so you can “heckin enjoy it”? And then go home and continue to fuel the 6th mass extinction with your destructive consumerist habits? Anyway, I planted some Texas native wildflowers today to help the declining pollinator population in my area. What did you do?
90% of the time I find huge trash piles in the woods is tweakers or mestizo non-native mexicans. Racially most mexicans from America I've seen don't leave huge trash piles and are super fun to camp around, but the ethnic mestizo beaner style mexican will fucking let the whole forest catch on fire and drive their fucking whore explorer over your tent and up into your camp and then ignore you as if you weren't even there. Tweakers obviously do it because they're homeless or want to tweak away from cops safely so they set up a rat nest RV/car/van near some shady spot and shit it up over the course of a few months. It can be hard to tell at first sometimes but they get mixed up with vanlifers a lot too but I've found most of the time vanlifers keep it pretty clean depending on how long they've been doing it. Personally I always litter food trash to attract as many animals as I can then leave it for the next people as a way to gatekeep my spots.
>>2864392Yes, while I traveled homeless I got 90% of my fishing equipment left abandoned on shorelines everywhere in the entire US, even places you wouldn't expect anyone to be fishing. Please don't clean it all up if you're going to, a lot of people who travel around will use it and fish for themselves using it to get by so they don't have to go stink up town and beg. I once found a $200 ugly stik with full line and a $150 reel on it all ready to go just thrown off into some bushes, and I've easily filled three separate tackleboxes (also scavenged) with lures, weights, extra string, hooks, flies, bobbers, flashers, etc. If you go out to states where people night fish and hunt frogs a lot like Missouri you can also find abandoned fishing bows frequently, arrows, headlamps, light-up lures, light-up bobbers, and I even found a pair of working 3rd gen nightvision goggles and immediately sold them.
>>2864418>even places you wouldn't expect anyone to be fishingOne of my "secret" fishing spots is on public land but you need to park in a nearby suburb and bushwhack an overgrown deer trail. I always think I'm the only person that goes there until I find something like a topwater frog randomly lying around or a can of corn that wasn't there before. I'm waiting for the day I stumble across another person fishing there. As for abandoned shit, I know of a place with a paddleboard floating in a swamp and another with a jonboat. I'm always tempted to go and take it but it's probably not worth the effort only to find out it's just rusty garbage.
has anyone who cleans the enviornment been harassed by private property owners before?pic related is a place i desperately want to clean. a big fire tore through it and made a lot easily accessable. it's not just little ribbons of trash in tiny patches, it would be easy to gather a lot. however, i keep encountering this old asshole who lives on the land. the place he lives is like a homeless person's - i didn't encounter him, he went out of his way to bother me. he tells me he's scaring the homeless off of the property. found bodies there before. been living there for 20 years. he explains within the last week someone told him they would take his car, and then just started smashing his windows of his car (i saw the evidence). people would come out and scrap some of the shit that's just been abandoned on the property, tearing stuff apart and making an even bigger mess. he tells me that he has permission from like 5 different people to live on the property. i feel bad for him, so i come out the next day and pick some trash up there. this time, he's decided to call the property owner out - to scare me off? when he mentioned specifically that he knows the property owners, how the fuck do i get in contact to have permission to even be out there? the "majority" owner tells me just some basic shit and i explain what i'm doing - he never says i'm tresspassed and i leave - but he refuses to give me his information because of what he says is "bad experiences with people out here". now, i come back a few days later, but because i need to specifically speak to this old dude to understand who owns what. he's fucking fuming. threatening to beat me up for no reason, telling me he'll kill me if i come back. he also says NOW that he's a property owner - i call bullshit. what the fuck is this world coming to if someone's going to fucking murder you for picking up trash? would it really kill to be a little bit more friendly? what do i do? this is amarillo lake in texas
>>2865169also the old dude and "majority property owner" fucking celebrated that this fire tore through the property and burned away some of the trash in front of me. we know you're not going to handle it, that this shit has the opportunity to break down directly into our water supply because of your negligence.
Is it too late to become outdoorsy at 26? I'm not physically fit at all, I pretty much look like picrel but I'm also tired to be rotting in my room all day, I need to change
>>2860015i have allergies so i can't do out
>>2865066There are medications to help with allergies, you know.
>>2860015Yes
>>2865072does it is enough to roam in the wild ? i though that allergies are permanent...
>>2865078>>does it is enough to roam in the wild ?yes>>i though that allergies are permanent...they're not. talk to an allergist.
>>2863387Huh my wife gave me mine and I gave two of them to my friends because I liked mine so much and they're cheap.
>>2863417He doesn't know.
>>2863387rekt lmao
>>2837828Are Blue Steel Higonokami folding knives good?
>>2863639I have one, I like it. Just a little utility knife.
I'm applying to conservation corps. I know the pay is going to shit but I'm retarded and I think it's cool to camp and work on trails all day.Anyone have experiences with /out/ jobs?
>>2864340>>2864633hay dont hate the people for the job, 90% of these projects dont go anywhere.
>>2856976try to work as a mushroom picker, why not?
>>2864865There are or were a few forest jannys on this board. I am one of them.
>>2865148Do you get paid a livable wage
>>2865148what is your job?
I used to love hiking.Today I went on one, usually it helps me soothe my mind and its a good place to be when things are down. I usually also take fun pictures and romanticize the whole trip, look carefully at the wildlife, plants, feel of the air, how the wind feels...I have come to a point where I felt none of those things, worst of all is that I still posted the pictures of me smiling and the view to instagram as if everything was so perfect and dandy. Pretending to be happy.I no longer feel anything for anything. Depression has hit me so deepy I get no satisfaction from anything and have no one to connect with about any sort of experiences I go through.I go to the gym everyday, count calories, do cardio, hike, have a job, take insane amounts of supplements, go to bed at a proper time. What the fuck is even the point anymore... When the things you used to do in order to cope, when nature is portrayed as this hail mary to mental illness or built up stress... When none of these things even work anymore. What does one do? What do you do anon? Have you ever felt like this?
>>2863765Modern living is a lie. Convenience and comfort are the killers of fulfillment. Living in a town without any sense of community, you end up lonelier than being by yourself in nature. Therapy is training to silence the voice of reason. Meds are there to numb the pain of not following your instinct.You go to hike in nature because it is where you belong. You know it is missing from your life.I used to feel like this, living in the city, working a corporate job. I remember a period of weeks without feeling a single positive or negative emotion.I quit and moved to a mostly depopulated rural area. I can keep livestock and roam, forage herbs in the garden and woods, grab fallen logs for firewood...Preparing the land with hand tools. Everything takes longer, and that's fine, I'm not in a rush. It's been hard work, but it never felt like a chore. Working with nature is prayer. I am more fulfilled and less lonely. Sometimes I sit and listen to the birds. Sometimes I lie down on the grass and nap. Never do I feel bored, or anxious, or restless. And my full spectrum of emotions has returned.For practical advice, to try out if this is the lifestyle for you at a low cost, save up as much as you can, then go do Wwofing/work away on people's rural properties. The more bare bones the better, as that will teach you how little you actually need. It will teach you valueable skills and knowledge. And then, if you know it is for you, you can decide how to transition to the lifestyle. There are better options than waiting until retirement. You don't need a 100 acres cattle ranch to live happy in nature. Cob is a cheap and easy building material. Permits and regulations only matter in places where they are strictly enforced. A shack, some goats and chickens, a dog, a little bit of connection with the other inhabitants in the area...
>>2863765Have you tried mixing it up with other activities so you're not repeating the same activity every weekend and every vacation day? Hiking will eventually become stale to most people unless you live near an exceptional hiking location (think Alps, Rockies, PNW, Cali, or New England) that you can visit regularly. Even hikers in those places often pivot to other activities like rock climbing, mountain biking, and scuba diving that make them feel more alive.
>>2864631You seem to be just as depressed as OP, believing your maladies stem from your cursed/blessed savant individual qualities and not anything material beyond you. One needs to figure out how to socialize BEFORE striving to stoically improve yourself; the Eastern & Western ancients had these virtues unintentionally fulfilled by the necessity of collaborating with neighbors to merely obtain sustenance, even in secluded monastic communities. Whereas with modern globalist society, you have clean water, sewage, heating & plentiful food widely available, and internet to make the process of alienating yourself as simple as inhaling oxygen. In other words as I originally wrote, having faith that any social relationship you initiate won't be constituted by inferiority, to not close your mind towards the other and yourself, is the insular act of grasping agency that I think you're looking for.
>>2864963Your advice boils down to finding solace in others, you keep doing all these gymnastics to pretend your reasoning is about finding the self but your way of finding the self is, again, through others. I'm didn't tell him to go become a hermit, just that he needs to find himself before trying to become some person that isn't him - again. You're projecting your own feminine mindset onto others and assuming the feminine method that worked for you is the only way to go.
>>2863765>>2863766I don't know how to solve your problems, but i can give you a (you) and a hug.
Do you like to look at things when you go /out/?Show us your optics.>monoculars>binoculars>scopes>sunglasses too, I guess>cases/carry systems>cleaning and maintenance>poorfag optionsI have a Vortex 8x25 mono that I like to bring, but I regret not buying the 10x25. Binos are my old Nikon Travelite III 10x25.
Super cheap toyish binoculars are a waste of money, but some $30-40 pairs are pretty good for the price. They will at least have real albeit budget glass quality and engineering which will make them completely incomparible with toy binoculars. Look at something like Carson Stinger 8x22
>>2860343Cool way to cosplay as wall-e.
>>2858968A good deal right now are the surplus M24 compact binoculars, if you are'nt bothered by the ranging scale.The're usually under $200.00 and often in the ballpark of $120.00.
Just copped these, they seem pretty nice for being $140. My only regret is I thought 10x42 would be best for general use but I realized Id probably want to carry them hiking most frequently. I might exchange them for a more compact 8x30 or something. Does anyone have recommendations for sizes ?
My Celestron 25x70 had the lens fall out after years of use. Way too much zoom to use without a tripod. The entire reason to go out is use them. Very cool though. Looking at birds, the moon, people just going about their day a mile away. 25x is even strong enough to make out Jupiter and its belt of moons as a line of dots.Not sure what the replacement I got for my birthday is called right now. The smaller ones posted in here seem nice to have as well.
it's simplejust remove all nearby irrigation setups from existence
>>2864061>But what if PEOPLE I DON'T LIKE enjoy it as well?Crab in a bucket.
>>2864039It never should have existed to begin with.It was created accidentally in 1905. It had no outlet and the water quality declined every year as salt built up (along with pollution from fertilizers and even storm drains).It was destined to be devoid of life.
>>2864036they're gonna have to
>>2864064>>2864069use is use fellaswilderness it aint
>>2863837just finish the siberian river reversal project, that was originally intended for this.
I'm gathering ideas for biomes and natural environments. I'd like to know if anyone knows of any natural environment or biome that they find pretty. It could be a description, a picture of nature that you like, anything helps.
>>2862474you probably just haven't gone looking for the cool stufffeel free to fuck off to the west
>>2859933Yes
>>2864501Fucking auto rotation
>>2864502kek
I love the Washington's coniferous forests.
Who here would be in favor of a new class of year round Hunting license, just for primitive spear and club hunting.Optionally For reasons of funny it comes with a requirement of only being allowed loinclothes, chestwraps and sandals for clothing during the hunt, and no motor vehicles within two miles of the hunting ground
>>2865112I’ve seen spears at tractor supply for hogs… can can you not spear a pig anymore either? I hate this timeline. Ancient man had it made for 400,000 winters.
>>2865113Probably fine for pigs/boars because they're a huge problem. A lot of laws don't apply to them, that's why you can hunt them with machine guns from helicopters. You'd need some serious balls to stand in front of a charging boar with a spear though. No half measures, you'd have to go all in or you're fucked
>>2864967Would they prosecute you for hunting with a spear or club? After all you didn't use a gun or a bow.
>>2865114Stuck pig’ll run up a spear. Scary as fuck.
>>2865116That's why they put those wings on boar spears, to stop it. But you still need good footing and strength to keep it at a distance until it dies or gives up
German anon here. Tomorrow, I will be heading to Decathlon to buy some hiking gear. I have never properly gone hiking before - at most, I have gone on 3-4 hour walks on forest trails. I will mainly be hiking in spring and autumn, and occasionally in summer, depending on the weather. Terrain wise, I will be mainly hiking in rather hilly areas with a few hundred meters of elevation, and more flat areas from time to time. I would also love to camp for a night or two while I'm at it, but if that's too much (budget wise), we can just stick with hiking gear for now.
>>2861316Spring and autumn suck to hike in. It's shoulder season, everything is partially frozen or caked in mud. It can be as cold as winter or as hot as summer so you need to prep for an annoyingly wide temperature range. Bugs are waking up and hungry.You can dayhike big 4000m mountains in thrift store clothes and regular sneakers, don't overthink it. Avoid cotton, look for wool or silk or polyester, bring at least 2-3L of water and a few thousand kcal of energy-dense snacks.Trail runners beat boots every time unless you're regularly scrambling through boulder fields.
Decathlon's outdoor line uses the following system:NH: "Nature hike", basically casual everyday wear designed for normies, most of it is cotton or polyester mesh. I quite like their cheap 14euro NH men's pants that are 100% cotton for the summertime. The level of intensity for strolling through well maintained nature parks on-trail in nice conditions.MH: "Mountain Hike", clothing and shoes designed for more rigorous use. Rarely incorporates cotton, lots of strong synthetic fibres. The kind of outerwear or shoes you'd use for hiking on poorly maintained trails or for hiking in hilly/rugged areas.MT: Mountain Trek, this is the expensive shit designed for off-trail hiking long distance trekking. Their MT pants are waterproof and almost indestructible. MT boots are their past the ankle trekking boots.100-500-900: this is Decathlon's advertisement of the product's longevity. A pair of MH100 shoes will last roughly 100 uses before they need to be replaced. MT900 pants can be used around 900 times before you have to get a new pair. The 100 range is recommended to first time users just trying a new sport for the first time, 500 for casual practitioners and 900 for people who go hiking every single week.They have a very good range of merinowool products that other anons have described previously, I would get a merino shirt as a base layer, some merino hiking socks, MH500 pants (water resistant), a cheap fleece and an MH500 rain jacket. They also sell non-own brand products and I recommend their Columbia Redmonds for being super comfy (for wide feet also) and being almost fully waterproof. Get a 25L backpack and upgrade if you want to start camping.>t. used to be a Decathlon Outdoor department salesman before I got a real job
>>2861316Dude, you’re in fucking Germany. Tennis shoes, jeans, and layers is fine. t. Also in Autismland and have „hiked“ through forests and fields for 4+ hours in fucking boat shoes many times.
>>2865101Oh no no
>>2861369>The lightweight chud fears the propane king
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>>2865202>thread page 2>previous thread still in catalog>didn't even bother putting the title in OP piccmon
>>2865202Fuck your tardo thread. Someone else will start the real thread when this one is on page 5
>>2865208probably skid's boyfriend again that couldn't stand the sight of a woman in bikini
>>2865178>>2865187Cool thanks. I'll practice casting with nothing tied on in the yard tomorrow then go pick up some extra tippet and leader and some dry flies for when I get to water.
>>2865215>then go pick up some extra tippet and leaderi make them with spool leftovers
how do i stop gnomes stealing my boots while /out/?
>>2863886First time in America going /out/, any tips or advice for a European? >>>/wsg/6120882
>>2865081We have weather in America, know what heat/cold/wind/rain range you could be dealing with and be prepared for it.carry water.Know where you are, stay on trails, maintain awareness of landmarks.The American wilderness is not a petting zoo, take pictures from a distance, do not approach the wildlife, do not touch the wildlife, do not try to take selfies with the wildlife.
>>2865088Never go full retard.
>>2865090stop it with the europhobia!
>he doesnt salt his boots before bed
I HATE my job, I HATE normies. How tf can I just drop out of society and get neetbux. I have a small farm and a bitch to leach off of but I have no idea how to welfare meme. Do I just tell the doctor im autistic and get disability?!?!?!? I make to much for food stamps and I just don't pay my medical bills for any ER visit ext... I have a kid on the way so im scared to drop out without knowing what to do.... BTW I don't give a fuck what anyone around me thinks.... help... living out my RV BTW the pic is from my homestead back in January
I quit my job and fucked off to make and sell firewood
>>2865067How do you make enough money to pay your mortgage?
>>2865070I dont have a mortgage I live with my parents.Or rather right next to them, in an old barn I renovated into a small apartment.
>>2865075Tbh I wouldn't admit this
>>2865077This aint exactly linkedin we're browsing
