Are exposed ridges the coolest kind of trail?
>>2850391>Everest isn't even impressive. The Karakoram region has far more impressive peaks for the himalayas and alpine zones despite being "lower"
>>2850392I agree. I prefer following creeks when Im in the mnts. They inevitably go up in elevation anyways but the goal isnt 'vert' - just immersion
>>2850438the problem with that here is that in theory that's nice, and certainly you have lower elevation riverwalks that are sometimes pavedbut for higher elevation creeks building a trail along them requires:a) clearing deadfallb) building crossings across the creek c) rebuilding after erosionand they usually just mostly abandon them and you aren't really along the creekyou are either high above it or somehow you are sort of next to it and then you have to go all the way the fuck around it and 100 ft up and the trail is eroded to where its barely 2 ft wide and a steep drop if you miss your pathand, for obvious reasons, most people don't use those trails anymore, so it becomes a self-perpetuating cycle
>>2850439>the problem with thatdunno. thats not a problem in my local NF. The creeks that have trails are well maintained with bridges for numerous crossings, deadfall cleared every yr (sometimes by volunteers) and the trails stick pretty close to the creek depending on terrain- they certainly are not abandoned lol
>>2850375I started looking for trails today for this weekend before realizing i should take a break, kek
>#531- "Jump the Shark" Edition>Previous Thread: >>2846103>janny pls…>Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!>http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle>https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N>New Bong Fishin Guide>https://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTq>First for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc.>Talk about fishin
These Skid threads are way better than those KVD shits, and no, I am not Skid nor his boyfriend.
I figured the bald spots out. If i overload my dubbing noodle it clumps and the clumps dont fold back and fill out properly.
>>2850443Yeah i was definately overfilling my dubbing loops ypu can see how much more consostent the top one is vs the patchy bullshit going on with the bottom one
Fish.
>>2850406>>2850410>>2850417>>2850421>>2850422I nominate Skid to start all future threads, just to piss of the chuds. Great job Skid! It's hilarious watching them seethe
Hi /out/ TLDR: I want to know all about making drinking water.long story: I am gettin a little into prepping. I don't really like the scene because it's full of faggots thinking they are Rambo and spending loads on equipment. but I also think I should know a little about what to do in an emergency. I can't rely on public services.in order to get into, I thought about the most probable scenario in my case. that would be urban survival. and I thought that the first and most important thing I should know is how to make drinking water. how to make sure I can get clean water, or clean it myself.Any advice is welcome. Discussion too, but main point is drinking water.
The active chemical that does most of the work when you add bleach to water is hypochlorous acid (HOCL). It's a strong disinfectant that's also noncytotoxic.
>>2844564>first and most important thing I should know is how to make drinking water. how to make sure I can get clean water, or clean it myselfYou see, this is why we spend so much on weapons and equipments. If you're well armed and equipped you can always procure everything you need without ever having to worry about all this virgin loser shit
Why not drop a silver coin in your water instead of using bleach?
>>2848086>he doesn't EDC a LifeStraw®Poor decision making.
>>2844564>>2844598Well, if you want a redundant water source from your municipal supply, I recommend digging a well. You can hook it up to your plumbing and everything, or you can just throw a hand pump on it and forget about it. Just make sure you test it for hazards and treat it accordingly. Relying on rainwater is generally a bad idea, even if your area gets plenty of it consistently, since you'll often be limited by how much you can collect. If you're in an apartment or something, just plan to hoard tap water.
>gun? heh, I just carry bear spray, it's actually more effecti-
>>2849652I used to live in the woods with a bunch of black bears. Basically there's an old Indian trick where you just pretend you're mistaking them for family members so they don't get self conscious, like if you wander into a group of them just say "oh sorry didn't see you there grandpa" and then just walk away.Best experience I ever had with them was one morning I woke up to a couple young ones playing tag and splashing around in the water on the other side of a small beaver pond I was camping next to. Worst experience was turning a corner on a trail and running right into a mom and her two cubs. They're basically big puppy dogs though. Grizzlies will fuck you up on the other hand.
>>2849780Tbf he probably told her she needed to move but she stood there still, defying his mansplaining
>>2849926>>2849983Believe it or not, but this is the ideal solution for bear defense.Literally peak performance
>>2849879But the bear would still maul him before it died
>>2850332is that a fuckin outward facing claymore on his forehead?
Why haven't you gone winter camping yet this season /out/?What, are you scared of a little cold?
>>2848387>he has no snow in novemberit must suck to be a mountainlet>>2848984fall in the valleys, winter in the mountainsfeels good man
>>2848846Yes. The jackets are nice and the level 7 pants are great for snow.
just got the first snow hereall 5 millimeters of it
>>2848380Thinking of goin up MD ATC. Worth it?
>>2848380I haven't seen snow in 4 years
Its that time guys.Any deals out there this year? Usually la nina years are great for finding good deals on silvers, lots of sales because its gonna be a mild winter
>>2849765I love cotton, and its all that I wear as an underlayer, but I will admit when it gets wet in the winter you do get cold and you do need to bring changes of clothes with you if you are gonna sweat and hike in winter...
>>2849772Wet from snow or wet from sweat? I have had the former happen for sure but not the latter
Leafbros, Mark's has 80/20 heavyweights on sale right now.
Sams club in my town only has womens LJS and it sucks. I have been checking every week and its getting colder
Looking for suggestions for merino boxers-durable, decent synthetic content-can be washed without babying it-not as expensive as woolpowerSuggestions?
Have you ever been CAUGHT innawoods doing something against the rules by a forest janny? If so, what were you doing wrong, and what was your punishment?
>>2850063No it's pretty normal to not get horny when outside unless you're some kind of porn degenerate who is making a sex tape out in the woods with their gf.
>>2850046When we were about 15 my friends and I wandered into an active nuclear facility. It boarders the acreage my father owns. We were riding dirt bikes in the woods and had no idea we crossed into one. The back side didn’t have signs posted. Turns out even if there are signs, the signs are put up past the actual boarder so by the time you’re reading one you’re already on their land. A helicopter landed in a field and guys came running up to us with m4/m16s or whatever they were. My dad wasn’t even mad and tells the story about how the navy brought us home and made this huge deal about kids hanging out in the woods.
>>2849778ive told this story before but the first and only time i took meth i thought it was a good idea to go for a hike anyway i guess a side effect of it is that you have piss like a racehorse and sometimes when i have to go pee badly i get an erection so i figured no one was around it was a week day and a ways out so i just pulled my pants down, boner and all and started peeing in the middle of the trail, when i hear a man telling his dog to be quiet and i look to me immediate left afew metres up the hill side and a man and his dog are sitting there watching me lol
>>2850063>>2850390I never have while /out/ but I think it would be different if I were with company
>>2850390I busted inside the pudgy office latina a few times when we would "hike"
Hey /out/,Just got invited on a two week elk hunting trip next fall. I don't have many details, all I know is it's in WY. I'm pretty excited, I've never hunted in my life aside from popping a few squirrels and groundhogs and have always wanted to do something like this. What am I in for? What can I do to prepare? What should I be aware of? What are some good resources to learn more? Post hunting stories too
Ask the people that invited you or the guide if you’re going with one… stupid sperg
>>2850052>What am I in for?Sore feet, being freezing cold and/or overheated and gorgeous views, possible altitude sickness and if someone drops an elk you're in for a ton of work and heavy lifting.>What can I do to prepare?Hit the gym and git gud with the specific weapon and ammo you're going to be taking and buy all of the shit you might need good and early. Don't be the retard who shows up with boots that haven't been broken in or ammo that you haven't tested.>What should I be aware of?If you're fat then you're gonna fucking die.>What are some good resources to learn more?Asking people who have hunted elk in the Rockies about hunting elk in the Rockies. Start with whoever invited you.
>>2850052I was watching a TV show called "Northwoods law" (iirc).Basically COPS but for hicks.A game warden came across some guys on the side of a mountain carving up a moose. They had gotten a little jumpy and didn't wait for the moose to come down before shooting it and it fell on rough terrain they couldnt access with their quads to drag it out.Wonton waste is a big deal- you can lose your hunting license over it. So they were carving up this beast in out in the sun and the flies to get it in small enough pieces to hike out.
Some examples of living The Barefoot Life: -Practicing movement in bare feet (walking, running, crawling, climbing, kicking, lifting, carrying etc.) in a variety of environments -Wearing shoes/orthotics as much as needed to manage load while gradually transitioning to more minimalist footwear and barefoot activities -Growing your own food - either at home or in a community setting -Prioritising recovery and sleep after lots of movement and skill learning -Spending time experiencing and appreciating nature -Active meditation through mindful movement or breath work e.g. beam challenges, box breathing -Walking to a farmers market to connect with the people who grow your food -Creating and using designated movement spaces at home/work/school -Deliberate exposure to discomfort e.g. hot/cold, fasting, ground sitting/sleeping/movement, learning new skills etc. -Spending quality in-person time connecting with friends/family and your broader community
>>2849510I think women should live barefoot desu
>>2849777>777God wills it.
>>2849777I think women should have to wash my bare feet with their hair.
>>2849510https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/BuddhasTeachings/Section0003.html>“Now this, monks, is the noble truth of stress: Birth is stressful, aging is stressful, death is stressful; sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, and despair are stressful; association with the unbeloved is stressful, separation from the loved is stressful, not getting what is wanted is stressful. In short, the five clinging aggregates are stressful.>“And this, monks, is the noble truth of the origination of stress: the craving that makes for further becoming, accompanied by passion and delight, relishing now here and now there, i.e., craving for sensuality, craving for becoming, craving for non-becoming.https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/ShapeOfSuffering/Contents.html>“And this, monks, is the noble truth of the cessation of stress: the remainderless fading and cessation, renunciation, relinquishment, release, and letting go of that very craving."The unfabricated, the end,the effluent-less, the true, the beyond,the subtle, the very-hard-to-see,the ageless, permanence, the undecaying,Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2849510OP here, here's my feet
Just scheduled a job interview for a position in Couer D’Alene so can anyone redpill be on the panhandle? What should I expect?
>>2850306my white negroid relatives who talk about being trad and Christian but are always trying to run scams and grifts, which they really aren't good at other than collecting government gibbs.
“locals” who whine about californian transplants but haven’t been in the area for more than 3 generations themselves
>>2850396>haven’t been in the area for more than 3 generations themselvesSo like 95% of Americans?
>>2850315Texas. You're thinking of Texas.>>2850396Yer still a transplant.
>>2850306Arguably the best /out/ parts of Idaho. If you include a few extra countries SE you basically have everything relevant in Idaho for /out/
This thread is a place to talk about outdoor climbing in any aspect (trad, sport, bouldering, aid, alpine, etc). Help out by sharing trip reports, photos, advice, etc.Climbing is inherently dangerous but so are lots of things. Climb at your own risk.Off-belay: >>2812365 (fuck mods)/xs/ thread:>>>/xs/224473There is no such thing as A5: https://youtu.be/boQHYBhlOcs?si=y66caNWQeZoVn4Tv
Step up, nigga.
>>2849917I'm less interested in type 3 fun
any arborist tree climbers here or am i the only one who climbs for cash?
>>2850359>any arborist tree climbers here my trees are usually galv steel, or i'm working on ropes under or around steel>or am i the only one who climbs for cash?nopeLMR and microwave mostly. This year's been more programming and system architecture work than tower jobs. Got some upcoming antenna removals/replacements in the spring.>>2844872>sometimes I have to focus harder and not look directly downLooking up is more unsettling than looking down. The swaying of the tower against the movement of the clouds fucks with me more than looking down where I've got a solid frame of reference.
Did Ginger Cracks into Blade Runner a week ago in Vegas. Amazing route. Go do it!
How do we solve the tourist issues in western national parks?
I think the main solution is the jurisdictional fighting over boundaries, whether things are developed within, or outside the park. The tourism revenue goes mostly to the municipality, through shops, businesses, so amenities immediately outside the parks can be built sensibly to service the park. No bullshit eco-builds in park areas where there's no vehicle access. And then you designate high, medium, low density areas of the park, so that animals can generally hang out in the preserve areas. The high traffick areas are basically a day walk loop around parts of the park which all have road access, a human conveyor belt of day hikers. The medium traffic areas can be reached fairly easily but don't "go" anywhere. So for bird watchers, campers.It's often good design to make a handcuff shaped path so you get two day loops on either end, four paths, but only two entry points. This means that you can strategically close one and make the trail one-way in off peak season. And you want to avoid people exiting and entering at the same time, which is a key reason to make the number of stops on the trail Asymetrical, this also means there's more places for through hikers to stop towards the end, in off season.
>>2826654Not him but i'm a western park ranger and live in one (not the interpretive kind).>>2826640Tourists will always be retarded. I could rant for hours about the dumb shit I deal with. Even yesterday was fucking shitty with some retarded hippie I had to remove.Short answer is that there is no fixing it. Humans will always be idiots.Education would work if anyone cared or paid attention. I think instilling respect would also help. In the 70's the anti-pollution campaigns in the USA actually did a lot of work and I wish we'd bring it back. Right now one of the big campaigns is "be bear aware."Making a park less accessible helps. I wish people knew the difference between a national park and national forest/wildland. If you want freedom, to harvest, hunt, or fuck around, go to a national forest. If you want to just hike and enjoy nature, maybe camp, go to a park.God I fucking hate so many people. Littering, poaching, dogs off leash in wildlife areas, not following rules on signs, trying to build a little shelter in the woods because you think I won't come down and tear it up and you wanna larp as ted, etc.I really hate people who come strapped for bear and refuse to realize that bear spray works better. Especially if they try and bait a bear to attack them so they can think they acted in self defense when they put themselves in danger. Like fuck. Some of those retards will provoke a bear like a white guy sitting outside a hood gas station and shouting nigger then act surprised when shit goes south.
>>2847576>Making a park less accessible helps. I wish people knew the difference between a national park and national forest/wildland. If you want freedom, to harvest, hunt, or fuck around, go to a national forest. If you want to just hike and enjoy nature, maybe camp, go to a park.This is why I like the DYOR mentality of National Forest, the lack of infrastructure and advertising campaigns keeps enough people out until it inevitably ends up on social media.
>>2840152I like this quote but if he hadn't killed himself someone else would have if they were stuck in a car with him for more than 3 hours.
>>2847586no
So I have been looking for hiking boots that double as everyday leather boots too. Been looking at the jim green collection. And I am torn between a razorback, a normal AR8 and a tyre wedge AR8.> The normal AR8 are nice, with a good sole, but they are a bit chunky > The tyre wedge AR8 are lighter, but I am unsure if the sole is good for hiking> The razorback is probably the best one for hiking, but it looks perhaps too "outdorsy"Ignore prices btw
>>2849373where are you going on a 6 hr walk that is all artifical turf
>>2849403Thanks Anon, I appreciate it>>2849421I used to just walk my town end to end and when I was younger I lived miles out of town so after work I would just walk home along the highway or sometimes to get into town to friends. Also lived in a Los Angeles once and obviously like anywhere there. I'm glad to be getting back innawoods but I've always been curious about a good walking show since I've always just done it with shoes that were horrible for walking.
>>2845969trailrunners fo hiking outside of winterwinter boots for hiking during winterfashionable leather boots for being fashionablerough-er leather boots for light hiking and lots of walking
>>2846284>a heel will obliterate your feetare yours made outta glass or something?
>>2850412a tall heel will send a shockwave up your knee and back causing long term issues. I've been in wildland fire for over a decade and talk to people in need of major surgery before their 30s.More of them switch to polyurethane (foam) boots then the traditional welted that I see no reason to recommend welted boots unless you can minimize the heel. You don't even need the heel in a lot of cases because the extra height in them isn't more rubber but just an empty space to cut down on weight. Even if you want a bit of a lift, get something like Jim Green and throw in an insole to fill it out so you have more shock absorption then hitting hard material.picrel is a picture of a vibram montagna inside to demonstrate that you're not getting extra durability out of a big heeled outsole.As I said earlier just go with one of Jim Greens Anatomx if you wanted a welted boot as you will get both an anatomical boot and one without unnecessary heel or weight.With that being said i'd still go with a cup sole or something else like the Vibram Magna Esc since I get much better natural movement out of those then welted boots.
Weather is starting to get cold and I wanted to get you guys opinion so I figured I'd get the wool general goingWhat's an acceptable blend in your guys experience for /out/ings? I'm looking at getting one of those L.L. Bean birdseye sweaters and it's 80 wool 20 Rayon. Will the rayon be detrimental at all? Anyone have experience?
>>2850259Bring a flashlight and thoroughly check the whole garment for moth holes against the light , check especially under folds of fabric.
>>2850259Anon there is Big Bill, Johnson Woolen Mills, and surplus.
>>2844963The best hiking socks money can buy, but cold compared to real wool socks.
>>2849631Cold conditions are dry, if it's not dry, then it's mild.
>>2850379I loaded up on some slightly oversized surplus extreme cold weather Darn Tough socks. They are pretty warm, and perfect as a second layer sock.
You now remember geocaching
>unironically advocates street shittingi want jeets to leave
>>2848537URBX is just a fucking scam.It can only really exist if assets are actually left behind.
Found this one hiking, didn't survive the fire but the tree is fine.
>>2850364diddi you nutted on it?
>>2850366>>2850364Oh great, now some unexpecting young person is gonna get pragnet
