Hello everyone. I hope this is the best board to write this, so bare with me :)I have been saving up a lot of money, and I'd like to buy a block of land that is currently for sale near me. It's a great price, decent space, it's in a perfect location near my work, friends and family, etc.The only problem is that it is zoned "farming zone", and as such, one cannot easily build a dwelling on it.So, I'd like to ask any Australians here if they have had experience with such a thing. Is there a "loophole" around building something? Or are there any other solutions?Thank you :)
I helped Mum buy a house in a farming zone with nearly 20 acres of scrub just so she could finally own her own house and quickly realized there's a reason why people aren't buying up blocks of land for cheap to sell later on, so many dumb laws if you want to actually do anything on the land, you can't even divide up land if its under 20 acres becaus eof muh zoning, I'm just glad there was a house already built on it. You need a LOT of money to do anything with Land OP.
>>2875022Also, going by what other neighbours do out here, people don't give a shit unless you're being an asshole with noise/lights/dogs etc, slap a caravan on it with a small shed with a toilet and you should be right until you can sort a house out.
The best thing to do here is to build and never legally declare it a dwelling. Lucky for you it is zoned rural and that means you can most likely build a shed on it without council approval. So you build a shed or whatever and live in it. You can have a shipping container or whatever too.Are you not Australian? You should know it is standard practice to do this. Just live there illegally but dont make it obvious and nobody cares. You need a different residential address legally. Do you actually know what it costs to get a dwelling permit? It is a nightmare. The fact you got farming land means instead of paying 200-400k minumum you can knock up a nice steel shed that is essentially a warehouse for 50k. You won the lottery if you already own the land.
You guys in the thread have no idea. If you buy farming land you can build without council approval in most cases. You then start a pty ltd and put the place of business your block, you then get a tiny amount of livestock, just get. 2 bee hives, you are now a primary producer. Now look at all of the grants and everything else. Look at the r&d cashback. And work out a hypothesis that counts as r&d and do whatever the fuck you want on your land, cows, sheep, goats, whatever. If you are an Australian citizen and you have land zoned for farming you have won. Genuinely suffering from success learn business immediately.
>>2871753>I hope this is the best board to write thisIt isn't. Fuck off.
What's some of your favorite /out/ approved kinos?
>>2850465Watched this a few times as a kidAlaska (1996)It's legit the most /out/ film I've ever seen.
>>2867908Not recommended. It's been suggested that the bears sensed that he was either retarded or mentally unstable which is why they didn't eat him long before.
>>2869549Great choice for a Western or just a good outdoors movie.
>>2873355>i would never recommend it to another personWhy
>>2875048I've heard it called a 7 hour movie with a 50 hour game inserted into the middle.
Realistically, what could this boomer have done to avoid this?He wasn’t actually antagonizing the moose.https://youtu.be/6jNugfzptu8
>>2874984apparently it was someone else who provoked the bison from his car and he just got unlucky
Based bison. Looks like they are what cows are to us here in the Alps.
>>2874797How do they allow people to be near those wild animals that can chase you like this? Put them inside some type of fence or something.
>>2874984>>2875027He was far away when the BISON started getting aggro. Nobody provoked it. The bull is in early rut and was spoiling for a fight. wrong place, wrong time. Nature is beautful and cruel. >>2875041fuck off.
>>2875041>Put them inside some type of fence or something.Yes. People need to be fenced in.
What are the weirdest things you've ever seen?
>>2874939What if Im the one with rabies
>>2873231One time I was smoking a joint on my own in a field, and I saw in the night sky a large dark triangular shape go through the sky. Stars were there before hand, then there was a triangle shape of nothingness and then stars again. Possibly a UFO or something who knows. Outside of that, there are heaps of doggers (public sex havers for non brits) here.
>>2873231I watched slugs mate. It's very strange.
>>2874047Beware. Those are wild Jews looking for an animal or unsuspecting goy to perform a blood ritual with.
Don't know about strange but it was one of the cooler skies I remember seeing.
Every single axe I have ever used that looks like picrel has the head start coming loose after only a few weeks. Every single time. It's retarded that I can't buy a wood handled axe that is made correctly out of the box. Even with premium brands like Gransfors, while the heads may not come loose, they are hung crooked half the time, and there's no store where you can pick out a straight one in person. I don't have time for these shop projects to fix these issues myself, an axe should just be fucking made right.
>>2870955>and it’s virtually impossible to make steel as good as they had 80 years ago.>being this retarded
>>2874063Just got one to try out. Thanks anon.
>>2874463If it’s a quality handle hand fit by someone who knows what they’re doing and you take care of it properly (not leaving it out in the sun, leaning against a hot wall, oiling properly and regularly etc) wood will not come loose for the lifetime of the axe. Fiberglass is a cheap alternative and works, but it’s heavy, has no spring and feels like shit in the hand. Not to mention the blister issues.
>>2867623Thats a manufacturing issue more than an issue with the circular wedge. A well hung axe shouldn’t even need that part. Installing it wouldn’t make it any looser.
>>2874063Hello fellow hewing enthusiast.
I want to live like this.
idk how people have so much energy or desire to do this stuffill just go to the grocery store and buy some microwaveable food
>>2875051Because you dont have a shred or an ounce of self-reliance in your bones. Or the drive to better your own situation. Your genes must come from slave stock.
>>2875010My neighbor actually makes moonshine.(Id post a pic but it just looks like a quart jar full of water).Im quite familiar with what it takes.Which is basically nothing.Ive made my own beer and wine.You seem to think its some amazing technological feat.Its not.Its something thats been done by peasants for thousands of years. We have beer recipes from ancient Egypt and records of beer rations given to the workers building the pyramids. The vats they used to brew the beer at the pyramid sites have even been discovered during excavations.Vodka can be traced back to the 8th century. Moonshine is about a 3:1 production ratio. 100 gallons of mash will yield about 35 gallons of moonshine.
>>2875056>still doesn't get it
>>2875057Correct.You still dont get it.Follow the conversation back to the beginning, dumbfuck.
Out of season rain editionpastebin:https://pastebin.com/Mvfh8b87New USDA zone map has been released: https://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/Koppen Climate Map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/K%C3%B6ppen_World_Map_High_Resolution.pngSearch terms:Agrarian, Agriculture, Agrology, Agronomy, Aquaculture, Aquaponics, Berkeley Method Hot Composting, Cold Frames, Companion Planting, Composting, Container Gardening, Core Gardening Method, Cultivation, Deep Water Culture (DWC), Dry Farming, Espalier, Farmer's Market, Forest Gardening, Forestry, Fungiculture, Geoponics, Greenhouses, Homesteading, Horticulture, Hot Boxes, Hügelkultur, Humanure, Hydroponic Dutch Bucket System, Hydroponics, Keyhole Garden, Korean Natural Farming, Kratky Method, Landscaping, Lasagna Gardening, Ley Farming, Market Garden, Mulching, No-till Method, Ollas Irrigation, Orchard, Permaculture, Polyculture, Polytunnels, Propagation, Rain Gutter Garden, Raised Beds, Ranch, Rooftop Gardening, Ruth Stout Garden, Sharecropping, City Slicker Composting, Shifting Cultivation, Soil-bag Gardening, Square Foot Gardening, Stale Seed Bed, Sugar Bush, Truck Farming, Vermiculture, Vertical Gardening, Window Frame Garden, Windrow Composting, Alpaca, Snail, Toad, Trumpeter, Turkey, Worm, biochar, vermicompostingLast thread: >>2868554(Un)official /HGM/ discord: https://discord.gg/TvN3Ed4Geh
My woodchipper just broke, I was cursing all evening thinking I would have to spend fortune on a new one but it's just one broken part and they sell replacement for just 7% of the entire thing's price with shipping, what a relief
>>2874924Why didn't you plant them and then collect that seasons seeds and have them in the beer fridge in the garage?
>>2874973Did you read anon's first post?>mental breakdown
>>2875025Question wasnt why they were thrown away, it was why they werent planted originally.I'll put extra seeds (like if I buy 2 pounds of greenbeans and only plant a pound that season) in the fridge. Or sometimes ill get a bunch of seeds and run of places to plant them (or forget it got something and find them when its too late in the season).But I dont umderstand getting seeds just to hoard them.And my maypops (passion fruit) are almost ripe but I guess ill have to wait for new thread to post pics of them.
>>2875053>why they werent planted originallyThey were? But I never go through the entire packet in one season. Most last me three or more years, and I like to buy new varieties every season, which is how I ended up with 81 packets. I sowed 55 different varieties this year, and would've sown more for late summer and fall, so it's not like I was hoarding anything.
Last thread >>2856593This is a thread for enjoying a pipe while doing outdoor activities. If you ask why this belongs on /out/, you've never spentan evening by the campfire with a pipe silently enjoying the nature around you, and you're missing out.>how to get startedPurchase a corn cob pipe (or a cheap briar pipe) and a pouch of Half and Half or Captain Black tobacco from a smoke shopor online. You will need a lighter or match, and something to tamp it with--a large nail works well if you don't have a pipe tool.Fill the pipe with tobacco, pack it down halfway, top it off, pack it down to 3/4, top it off again, pack gently and enjoy. Smokeslower than you think you need to, the tobacco tastes best when it is burning cool. Tamp and re-light as needed. If you stillhave trouble, try different methods on YouTube until you find one that works for you.>smoking a pipe will give you cancerOriginally the Surgeon General found that pipe and cigar smokers, following a careful study of the statistics (at a time whenmost adults smoked, so they had a good sample size), had insignificant death rate increases. Nowadays, tobacco is beinglegislated against while hard drugs are being legalized. Put two and two together. Tobacco is just another good thing under attack by the government.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2874844NTA but on that note has anyone ever gone down to St. James parish in Louisiana? Are there ways to pop in and visit any of the perique farms? I’d love to go down and see some louisiana tobacco growing and barrel fermenting
>>2873976>Tobacco & Salt Museum in TokyoOn the face of it, it doesn't sound too interesting.
This my first time growing tobacco.That's 10 days between pics, they're really taking off now>>2873994When the leaf is starting to turn yellow appearantly>>2873995I have no tools as of yet. You can cure pretty much anything in a barn if you harvest at the right time. Virginia just takes an extra fermenting step, or alternatively cure it for over a year. You can quite easily make a press and turn the tobacco into flake.>>2874036That particular patch is a type of havana cigar leaf. I also have a virginia and burley patch.
>>2874880Beautiful. I’ve heard it said that growing your own delivers the best taste.
>>2874880>Virginia just takes an extra fermenting step, or alternatively cure it for over a yearelaborate one that please
Hello. I have a challenge for you. You are offered $1,000 per hour that you drive. You can go anywhere and gas is infinite. So is food, water, and anything else you’d NEED. How long do you drive for? Where do you go? How would you do it?
>>2874959There's a nearby section of highway that's really nice. Wide lanes, high speed limit. I would do 90 minute laps on that. Was I expected to drive across the country?
>>2874959>How long do you drive for? Where do you go? How would you do it?The rest of my life. I'd become the legendary knight who runs the niggers over at night. Can I put decorations on my car like horns
I would probably just drive around residential streets, I'll get out to stretch at red lights. Might last 24 hours
>>2875004What drugs were you on when you made this, other than LSD?
>>2874959>How long do you drive for? Where do you go? How would you do it?As long as it takes.Your mom's house.Edging the whole time. Your mom is going to drown in baby batter.
Post your tents, your tentfu, which will be your next acquisition, etcI currently have my first tent (a typical cheap igloo camping tent, Hummer Igloo 3+) and 2 ultra light 3 season tents (forclaz mt900 tarp tent for 1 and 2 persons). I have used the latter in high mountain before, during summer (which is still cold), but usually in this part of Los Andes the wind is too strong for my tent. So I'm planning to buy a 4 season tent more appropriate for high-altitude and strong winds.Around here most people use the mountaineering line of Doite, pic related would be the one appropriate for my needs. The thing is that here tents are particularly expensive (that one costs +400usd), and I think I might be able to buy something half that price in the US, but I'm not familiar with US brands. Which one would you recommend?
this is probably retarded, but>hammock with ground tarp camping optionI'm trying to figure this out. prob just ccf mat that doubles as underquilt and a bugnet. Ticks and crawlies are my biggest concern on the ground.
>bought some used big-ass three-person tent over a year ago>get back into hiking>remember about that monstrosity that I can't even fit back into it's bag and had to put part of it into trash bag for storage>realize there is no way in hell I could carry that shit if I were to plan an overnight hikeGuess I will keep it for car camping or something, haha
>>2873728Camping is mostly about figuring out how you're gonna do the basics of survival like eating and pooping. Just think through everything you will need to do and prepare accordingly. Nothing is really necessary besides water or water filtration/purification for short trips, but to be comfy you will want to bring food, shelter, etc. also. What sort of gear you need will depend on the type of trips you do and how comfortable you want to be. few suggestionsrain gearhead lightfolding chairssmall charcoal grillshovel (for poop)If you're camping somewhere you can harvest firewood, bring a chainsaw, an axe and a lighterstart with a cooler and if you like camping get a 12v refrigerator or freezer. The freezer can work in conjunction with a cooler because you can freeze ice to use in the cooler. You also need a solar panel and power station if you want to do this though so it is expensive but worth it for longer trips.
>>2874551I have used my hammock bug net (standalone but could use a better hammock) on the ground as a sorta bug bivy. I have internal ties to the tarp but if it's just in a pinch I've use a stick or just a hat to raid up the head end a little and keep the net off me. The only extra gear to the hammock is typically a Zlite foam pad which normally comes anyway as something to sit and stand on
>>2871837kek
This is a thread for enjoying a pipe while doing outdoor activities. If you ask why this belongs on /out/, you've never spent an evening by the campfire with a pipe or bowl or blunt or spliff or joint or vape or edible or dab or oil, silently enjoying the nature around you, and you're missing out.>How to get startedPurchase a cheap glass pipe (or a simple wooden chillum) and a bag of some quality outdoor or mid-grade weed from a dispensaryor your usual guy. You will need a lighter and something to clear the bowl witha paperclip works well if you don't have a proper tool.Pack the bowl loosely, enough for airflow but enough to stay lit. Light the corner of the bowl and inhale slow. Smokeslower than you think you need to, the flower tastes best when it isn't cherried too hot. Tamp and corner or re-light as needed. If you stillhave trouble, try different methods on YouTube until you find one that works for you. Or you can just roll it or whatever.>smoking ganja will get you arrestedOriginally, the government found that weed smokers, following a careful study of the statistics (at a time when hemp was a cash crop) were just peaceful people who wanted to grow their own medicine, enjoy jazz and engage in mild tomfoolery. Nowadays, weed is being legalized against while the average American thrashes in the thralls of poverty. Put two and two together. Marijuana is just another good thing that was under attack by the government.>muh tobaccoNot the time or place (unless you're European.) Start your own thread.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
dude... what if we add weed to this activity... man
>>2874498Weed is only fun with friends
>>2874498You can eat your steak with just salt and pepper, but adding garlic or onion is a simple step you can take to unlock a new aspect of flavor. Hopefully this food analogy helps.
You guys use bongs blunts or papes?
>>2874964yes
How can I start enjoying the outdoors?
Fuck off it’s full
>>2873945
>>2872701you just don't anonthe reson why everyone would rather LARP here on 4chan is that going outside is terrible.there are other people there who shit up the place and of course they are disgusting, noisy, loud, and annoying. they will talk to you. everything is illegal because of the people thereunless you have actual business outdoors like hunting, it's not worth it. everything sucks. the only good experience you can have is one from the comfort of your home where you can imagine things as they are not, through rertarded youtube videos made by rich brats where they pretend they're wild adventuring when they're actually in daddy's private land they bought next to a villa with a swimming pooljust close your eyes and imagine things otherwise you'll go insane
>>2872701Picrel is retarded because a lot of really successful people are chronic fappers. >How can I start enjoying the outdoors?Get out and do shit.
Try doing heroin while outside
Mary Jane’s Bridge. On small road called Bayou Tortue off of Highway 90, this tee-tiny bridge can be located at the narrowing roads past many subdivisions in the area. As predictable as any tale of a bridge could be, a girl by the name of Mary Jane was out on her prom night. Both her and her date stopped the car to get out and stand on the bridge to admire the beauty of the algae-infested muddy waters. Next thing you know, her supposedly well mannered date PUSHED HER off of the bridge, and poor little Mary Jane died upon impact. And of course, as the legend goes, a girl in a white dress haunts the bridge and the surrounding area. I have heard that if you stop on the bridge and turn your car off, she will magically appear in your car window starting at you.
>>2874357Cool story bro.
>>2874566>kindimplies a differentiation
>>2874566
>>2874357feet
get the fuck out with the lame ghost girls, I'm here for the wendussy
I was /out/ today and now I feel like something is crawling on my stomach but when I pull up the shirt there's nothing there. But in a few minutes the feeling reoccurs
>>2874778
Take a shower and put on some other clothes, you probably have an insect of some sort on you
>>2874778It's the bugs, Anon. The bugs are in your skin. They're under your skin. The bugs are in you. Cut them out. Dig out the bugs in your skin claw them out rip them out get rid of the bugs the wriggling the constant wriggling cut them cut them cut them cut them
>>2874778Meth....Its one hellluva drug
>>2874916Oh no, not again!
I fucking hate the heat bro’s
I took a trip to Ruby Beach today bros. fucking chinks and jeets scurrying around EVERYwhere. two female chink bugs tried to parallel park and, predictably, failed and caused a huge traffic jam in the tiny public parking lot. I'm so sick of seeing brown and yellow 3rd worlders everywhere fucking up our beautiful nature.
>>2862697kek
>>2870444>>2870455But what if you go live near the mountains? The jeets can't follow you there, right?Eurocuck and I don't dream of coming there so don't worry but I have terminal niggerjeet fatigue and it would make me happy to know there's a place on Earth they can't reach.I hope you manage to recover even if chances are slim. We are already gone. They triple in numbers each year and we're the minority now. They freely shit in the streets.
>>2875037>But what if you go live near the mountains?suburbs of Seattle push up to the feet of the cascades, the HB-1lings are thick there.
