We can argue about which country has the best mountains but deep down in our hearts we all know it's Switzerland and people only say otherwise cause it's expensive as fuck
>>2876967>13,000'+ within 2-3 hours from the roadIsn't a hike a bit pointless if you do most of it by car? Also what about acclimatization?
>>2876979>pointlessnot really, no. why would it? it's like 4 hours the night before and 4 hours the next day. 3000' up over 2.5 mi takes 60-100min, 10-20 min at the summit, 70-50 min down. it's easy if you're not overburdened and just hustle>acclimitizationI never have issues day 1 provided I keep moving and stay caffeinated. might just be me though. I personally tend to do ok to 12.5k' but start to feel it past that. I don't stick around too long if I haven't been up in the mountains for extended periods leading to it.
>>2870669>which country has the best mountainsI've been in the mountains of Canada, USA, Bolivia, Switzerland and Norway. I can confidently say that the country with the best mountains is the one I'm currently walking up at any given time.
>>2876967>California is the only place where you can do this incredibly specific thinga bit of a pointless argument... in a day you can start from Venice and drive to the mountains, climb up a beautiful 3000m+ peak made of dolomite, have dinner in a castle on a hill on the way back, and be strolling besides the canals by sunset. This is also a unique experience, but so what?
>>2873198Lmao dude you sound like you genuinely don't understand friendly and openness. People do say that because they feel that. They do in fact hang out and are in fact friendly. Perhaps you are not as friendly with your neighbors mon ami. My visits in France have always gone well. But I also find you frogs cheeky and funny in general so when your Paris fucks act snotty it brings a smile to my face. Seems to piss them off more tho which just makes me smile more
How dangerous is solo backpacking? I live close to Appalachia and any time I talk to someone about going on a solo trip people talk schitzo-tier about how I'm going to die, disappear, or worse.Not even because of the nature specifically, but because of le paranormal, inbred mountain people, cannibals, accidentally stumbling upon illegal operations in the mountains (heard this one specifically a lot), etc. You get it, the list goes on.Anyways, is there any truth to the danger or is it just the average small-town tall tales and superstitions? Seems unlikely to me as I feel like if it was so dangerous you'd be seeing a lot more of it in the news.
>>2873972I like the river, but the page mountain overlook or whatever it is called seems to be the best of those in angle but its a rocky 7 mi walk so I haven't. I don't have a ton of mobility so I can't hike tooo far. I just remember some reviews on alltrails saying the trail was in pretty awful shape.
>>2872583Several questions for you to answer, the more you answer "no", the more dangerous it would be for you:1-Are you naturally unlucky, or are you accident-prone?2-Have you spent at least several years in the outdoors backpacking? (Not consecutive, just have you been backpacking as your main hobby or favorite hobby for more than 1 trip per year the last several years)3-Are you ABSOLUTELY certain that if something terrible were to happen that (a) people would worry enough about you to send word that you are missing, and (b) that you have several methods to signal for help, i.e. Garmin Inreach, radio (with knowledge on how to signal for help) and a way to know EXACTY where you are (coordinates on a map, not "inbetween these two hills)If you answered "no" to at least one of these questions, please consider going with someone who can be useful in an emergency and has been at least familiarized with outdoor leadership and survival skills.I'm not saying you should not solo backpack, but as long as you are asking "How dangerous is solo backpacking?" I am assuming you haven't done so yet.Develop more survival skills or hone the ones you already have, gather ways to signal for help if shit hits the fan, and ALWAYS have someone at home or a close friend know EXACTLY where you are going, when you will be going, and when you will be back.Stay safe!
>>2872583i literally only go alone because everyone irl is a loser that doesnt want to do anything other than sit at home
>>2872583The wilderness in the gorges in west NC are fucking creepy as hell, even with people, since they are abnormally dark and cast with shadow due to being so deep between tall mountains. They really feel like the dark forests you see in games or old medieval movies. I heard stories from my dad about tales he heard during his solo work travels in the mountains, and the ones in the general region that involved supernatural entities were:>Will o the WispsMalicious ghostly lights that trying to lure individuals into dangerous situations or into getting lost.>Brown Mountain LightsWandering ghosts (usually natives looking for tribe members lost to battle).>Yunwi Tsunsdi or Moon-eyed peopleCave-dwellers with large crescent shaped eyes that are nocturnal. Cherokee legends tell of driving out these creatures.>U'Lag'uGiant yellow jacket the size of a house that would snatch people and carry them off to never be seen again.Dad used to tell a story about the brown mountain lights passed down from some time after the colonial days where people would observe trails of the lights moving through the mountains like a line of people with torches. The tale recanted that they were native search parties formed of spirits looking for lost warriors from battles from over the eons. In this story, it was said that they were observed traveling in vicinity of a distant cabin across a valley where a settler lived alone. Other local settlers went to visit him after and found him scalped with his eyes and tongue ripped out and missing.I've been out myself to the gorges region and stayed overnight a few times. I haven't personally seen anything that ever looked supernatural, but the feeling as you become more isolated in those mountains almost feels oppressive at times like something doesn't want you there. Normally nights out are pretty loud. But the creepiest times when you're out there remote is when it is dead silent at night. I don't know if I could do it solo, bros.
>>2872583The danger of solo hiking isn't any of that shit you mention. The danger is getting conventionally injured. If you trip and break your ankle/skull/spine, then there's nobody to treat the injury or go for help. Best case scenario you call for help, but if there's no signal or you lose consciousness, you're fucked. Even if you get a message out, without somebody mobile to flag down rescuers it'll be harder to find you, and you might not have the time to wait if you're badly hurt.I go out solo all the time though. This is the danger, decide if you're willing to take the risk. Safest group size is 4 - one to treat a casualty, two to go for help so that they aren't alone if they get injured too.
Are people really relying on randomly stacked rocks to determine where they are like it's the 1800's
>>2873207>If you've done enough hiking, you'll know that in certain areas like really rocky areas it becomes very hard to see the trail.Just don't go on dangerous trails if you don't know how to navigate them.
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>>2871245>dont stack rocksAnyway here's how we stack rocks.
Death to all rocks! From andesite to zoisite they all need to go. smash them, grind them, throw them in the ocean!
>>2872281based cairn kicker
Have you ever had any close calls getting stuck in a cave?
>>2876924Why would you post this
>>2876923And yet he's alive and Nutty Putty guy is dead. Curious.
>>2875977based retard
>>2875724Why didn't he turn 360 and crawl out?
only a retard would do that without a team of professionals by his side
>>2876567A rich person does not squander money, that's why they're rich. Germ swines are drowning in debt to buy expensive useless bullshit like convertible cars or houses in places where locals would gut them if it weren't for the local police.
>>2876573>A rich person does not squander money, that's why they're rich.Not only are you clearly not rich, you clearly have never known a rich person either.
>>2876575I'm the one telling that to you. Anyone that tries to look rich, in fact, isn't. You can rest assured they are in debt.
>>2876569this
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seeking locations to homestead off grid within USA that does not have >data centers>cell towers>radio towers>heavy metals in the water and soil, >geoengineering activity (chemtrails, marine cloud brightening, stratospheric aerosol injection, ocean alkalinity enhancement)was wondering if anyone from can confirm if their gardens/livestock grow very abundantly in places without these pollutants? or if anyone can confirm their location (anywhere in USA) is free of the list above?
>>2875263i use to live in oregon and it was too hot for me, would it be possible that washington would have the same percs?
>>2868129>geoengineering activity (chemtrails, marine cloud brightening, stratospheric aerosol injection, ocean alkalinity enhancement)No spot on Earth will escape your schizo delusions.
>>2868235cocka
>>2868129OP, the most toxic chemical giving you problems is your own defective DNA.
>>2868133Republiniggers will sell every square inch of Florida to developers if they have their way
What does your backpacking kit look like & what are your favorite pieces of gear you have that are unusual or greatly increased your quality of life on the trail? This is my basic kit alot of the gear is 10 years old or more I have recently added a camp chair & a little bidet that goes on a water bottle. My favorite piece of gear is not pictures but it is a frybake pan which is basically a lightweight dutch oven I will be using it on my trip at the end of this month to roast a chicken & make stuffing.
>>2876655suunto are know to have not really good software. garmin just works>solar chargingmemebut you want sapphire glass
>>2875755Falafel fucking sucks you can keep that nasty bean.
>>2876804Child detected.
Guys who carry an IFAK, what’s in your kit?
>>2877023An actual fucking IFAK, not a boo-boo bandaid kit. Tourniquet, wound packing gauze, compression wrap, NPA, etc. But I've also had training to use that stuff, and enough experience with medical emergencies, that would mean helicopter life flight from innawoods or death, to be overly fixated on trauma preparedness.
I wanted to start biking trails and being more active. What sort of bike should I be looking at? I live in a rural area and own a car so I won't ride in the city too much. Googling suggests gravel bikes, is that a good option? I'm pretty handy so I can do maintenance myself and even upgrade parts. Is there something that has a good frame + decent parts that I could upgrade down the line into a great bike? I'm willing to spend a bit for something good quality but I'm not looking for a $10k bike. Sorry if this isn't the right board for this question
how are mountain bikes for bike touring or bikepacking? I want to get a bike mostly for that (and mostly off paved roads, don't want to ride along with high speed traffic too much) but I also want to try some beginner mountain biking trails in my area but I don't really want to get two bikes.
>>2876828Post your other bikes.>>2876903Again, rigid steel 29er.You can still ride it down a mountain, just not as fast as a suspension bike, but touring with a suspension fork is generally a bad idea.
>>2876906>but touring with a suspension fork is generally a bad idea.nta Why is it a bad idea? Sure it adds complexity and more repairs down the line but if you want some unpaved routes figured it'd be worth the hassle.
>>2876974Your options of mounting cargo or bottles to a suspension fork are severely limited, and the fork action saps your pedaling energy. At least that's what they say.And you don't really need suspension in a touring setting, you most likely won't be bombing down rocky singletrack. A suspension fork's main job is to keep the wheel pressed to the ground, it doesn't do a whole lot for comfort.
>>2876996>Your options of mounting cargo or bottles to a suspension fork are severely limited,Fair, I looked around since I want to use my trek marlin to do long bikepacking trips (maybe even cross the US at some point) and people mentioned old man mountain racks adapters for through-axles bikes, figured you could lock the suspension and go about your day like nothing happened.>And you don't really need suspension in a touring setting,I see, maybe I could swap out the suspension for a rigid fork? Seems like the way to go.
I went on a hike last week with some friends and holy fuck, never again. The whole thing became a photoshoot, non stop picture taking, I've never been so uncomfortable during a hike.
>>2875316I like to hike alone for this reason because I like to take photographs and just sit and enjoy the scenery and look at the insects/plants/animals.
>>2875316I take tons of photos on a hike. It's helpful to have a broad catalogue of photos when you're trying to identify a plant in a new area later, especially if you don't want to sit there for 20 minutes. This does mean I'm going pretty slow though, since you can bump into a dozen or so unique species in a small area, so I'm used to that kind of pace. What about the photos on the hike made you uncomfortable? Was it the stopping and starting, or something else?
>>2875338>Going for a hike with someone isnt hiking Jesus fucking Christ. Shut your rancind incel trap up before someone domes your foreveralone ass out in the middle of nowhere and leaves you for the birds. Had it up to here with you mental invalids.
>>2877013Ive got friends and ive done hikes with them, small and big, ans ive done plenty of hikes alone. That why I have this opinion.
>>2877013Kek you got shut down.
Rank US States (or regions in your country) based on natural beautyhttps://tiermaker.com/create/us-states-36606
>>2876450I lived in Florida my entire life and while there are cool things about living in the swamp it is obviously inferior to mountains and dramatic landscapes. A flat swamp can have some cool animals and springs and stuff but if you're a traveler, you can go to the Grand Canyon or Mt Rainier for the same plane ticket. Why would you pick a swamp?
I've been to 46 states at this point. I haven't been to AK, HI, FL, or MO.I have been to every county in CA and NV, and all but 3 in UT. Nevada especially is underrated; there are so many mountains and it's basically the best empty anywhere imo.The variety within and across those three states mogs most of the other states. Only AK can come close-ish and even then the ecosystems aren't as varied. Montana is also incredible to the point where it's almost unreal.I drove across it a couple weeks ago. The Missouri Breaks were something else.I really don't think much of the east coast aside from eastern TN/western NC and parts of W. Va. Those were the only places that felt remotely like home (norcal)WY is lower because most of the state is windswept and when you inevitably get the shits you'll get an opuntia/beavertail cactus in the ass if you aren't careful. I initially thought i'd keep OR in the B-tier but I also drove across it on the same trip and was stunned by what I saw on US-20 and in the wallowas. I'd never set foot in an old growth doug fir forest to that point. and some of that empty forested coastline was something special desu
>>2876939why are you rating states that you've never been to?
Not him but I don't need to go to Alaska to know it has spectacular scenery or go to California to know it's incredibly diverse geographically. I've been to both now but I knew these things long before I visited. And especially once you're reasonably well traveled you kind of know what to expect and what your preferences are. Plus seeing photos and videos of places I want to visit is how I spend a lot of my free time. Pretty much never does a place I visit differ significantly from my expectations, doesn't make it any less special to actually go by the way.
>>2877001seconding. i've been to all of the states around MO. the climate isn't that different, so from a bioregion perspective it's pretty easy to imagine and rank.I don't have to go to AK to know that a 20,000' peak you can see from the ocean (and honorable mention for St. Elias) is S tier.I've been to french polynesia, but not HI (the former is surprisingly cheaper), so extrapolating lazy polynesians + the white dudes who speak pidgin the hardest brah + the tininess of it I'd rank it at B-tier. Maui and the big island peaks seem quite cool but it just seems uptight and small. I don't get off from being penned in. I get off from not having to think about or be seen by other people, or be in someplace that's hot and humid. but this is a preference; if I were a surfer, it'd obviously be S tier. but I'm not a surfer.FL is the flattest state. it is hot and humid. from what I see the everglades is neat but I'm not a swamper. the beaches are packed and the browns abound. I don't like reggaeton, and I don't find Miami very interesting. I might bump it to C-tier but desu I don't think i'd like it much. you may serve me crow if I ever visit and change my mind (and I'd go there in earnest with an open mind and no expectations)
Whos gone rafting there?driving 8 hours and want to do 4-5 days2 day river trip2 days of hiking do they allow you to bring a prostitute?
>>2876816Just go to New River Gorge National Park and raft. Most people can't say that they've rafted in a national park, and the area around it is profoundly beautiful.
>>2876907Many national parks have big rafting cultures with lots of commerical groups like grand canyon, canyonlands, kings canyon, Glacier, big bend, black canyon of the gunnison, and glacier bay, and many others have whitewater rafting or kayaking. Not that unique.And doing something to say you've done it is surely the lowest form of accomplishment
>14er>trailhead elevation 13875are westoids for real?
>>2876744is colorado some kind of meme for peak casual
>>2876870No all texans are like that
>>2876874This one hurts cause it's true.
>>2876280As an Oregonian its funny when Coloradans try to climb our mountains because the elevation is only 11k or so but they've never had any glacial travel experience and get btfo
>>2876470the heels she wears are basically utilitarian sandals grade like at least wear 3" stuff if you want attentionhttps://besttraveltale.com/travel/hiker-drop-jaws-in-fun-outfits-and-heels-she-wears-to-climb-14000ft-mountains/
This is a serious question. I have some land to clear for fruit bushes and fruit trees, and will be milling the larger logs into timbers for other projects. But, I plan to get a chain flail type chipper shredder to to turn all the leftover slash into mulch and compost for the fruit. The land has a lot of raccoons who love to destroy berry bushes. I'm wondering if anyone here has experience putting dead raccoons through a chipper shredder to add nitrogen and minerals to their compost. I'm guessing I'll be making around 4 or 5 tons of mulch and have anywhere from 80 to 120 raccoons to add to it. If anyone has tried putting raccoons or comparable mammals - jackrabbits, beavers, coyotes, etc. - into woodchippers I'd like to hear about your experience.I'd rather not bury dozens of whole carcasses in my compost pile, and if shredded I assume the raccoon material would compost faster and mix in better. And yes, during fur season I'd save the pelts - unfortunately most of the shooting and trapping would occur during the summer months since that's when they'd be after my berries and plums.
>>2876755You honestly dont want to know what travels down American highways. Cow guts are minor.The U.S. government has a "shadow fleet" of civilian truckers that cant be tracked- they dont have GPS or satellite internet onboard that can relay their position to a corporate office like the majority of trucking companies have. Theyre used for sensitive loads (shit like nuclear material). They have a double blind security measure where the truckers dont know what theyre hauling and the government doesnt know where they are to prevent hijackings. So next time you see a really fancy rig with a sleeper cab but no crazy graphics or company markings remember that it might be full of teddy bears bound for walmart or plutonium heading to groom lake.
>>2876504>Not muh kitteh!!!!Pasta sauce!
>>2876787>here's the paperwork on were your going, but we dont know where that is.Bullshit story.
>>2876972Found the glowie
>>2876972Theres a pickup location and a destination. How and when the truckers get there is left upto them.This isnt a secret.I guarantee truckerfag can back me up on it.
>kills your /out/ experience
>>2875649it's worth it because otherwise those 8-year-old girls would have nuked Israel
>>2875713>>2875986imagine being stuck to within 15-60 miles of a single location. or being a do-nothing dirtbag who thinks they're superior for not doing anything other than consuming and spending months walking distances that don't have a deeper meaning to them that could be traversed in hours with a bush plane or carI can go into my backyard like any retard. I want the option of seeing rainforests, glaciers, and deserts on a whim, and I take that option.also working on cars will teach you an incredible amount. nature is in everything. nature is the best engineer.quit being a cuck and see the world with all the tools at your disposal
>>2875986Imma keep it a buck witcha, chief. You don't go outside. Full stop. That's all she wrote.
>>2875649Oh my gosh I totally want to TURN OUT and VOTE BLUE this November. Please post some version of this on every single board>im still not gonna vote>just not gonna do it senpai hahahahaha>t. Outside right now
>>2876040>USAID money has dried up.>still cucking for agent glowstienlol
>"backcountry" camping requires reservation and designated campsite
>>2874353a tick wrote thisI have a full size 4x4 and sleep inside it. it's unbelievably cozy, and I can focus on the peaks and places I want to be without being a dirtbag. I spend zero time setting up or breaking down a campsite. it's self-contained. unless you're more than a day's walk from a road (20-40mi depending) tent camping is silly, much less sleeping directly outside>>2874489it's on you to find places, but I guarantee you that national parks more often than not serve as sacrificial anodes for tourismthe real deal is out there, but it's not in national parks.
>>2876946I sleep in airbnbs and enjoy real beds, running water, flushing toilets, and hot showers, all for the price of dealing with neurotic hosts who expect you to (usually) take out the trash.
>>2876947I mean, if you're near a town, yeah, that makes sense.If you're way out there, car camping reigns supreme. Modern battery tech is also getting really good, so you can run a 12v minifridge, a starlink mini, and they make portable hot showers. they're even starting to miniaturize portable heat pumps for ac/heatthe heat pumps need to get more efficient before they're worth adopting thoughI like my old american SUV because I blend in literally anywhere.if I decided to really dirtbag the life you could have in a skoolie or even a full size transit would be insane (but you'd probably want 4wd)
>>2871980>jeets>backcountry jeets only visit the most accessible tourist destinations
>>2876946What's your car setup like? Do you just put the front seat back and sleep in a seated position? Or have a dedicated setup involving the boot and lowering the back seats? I'm 190cm tall and sleeping in a car is usually pretty uncomfortable the few times I've done it
