Gonna take my car, a tent, food, and water to some BLM land in Northern Cali. Plan on camping for two weeks. What am I in for? What should I take? What should I watch out for? Not gonna be where it's snowing, but it will get cold at night (40f). Complete newb here btw. Planning on taking...>water>food>tent>insulating floor mat>blankets>pillow>book>muh dickI plan on finding a suitable spot, parking my car. And putting up my tent next to it.
>>2847104>'m wondering what could possibly go wrong if I have the basics set up and the weather isn't too extreme.Not much really but for two weeks you might get bored.
I've found that one of these map gas canisters with a torch is pretty indispensable for car camping, makes it super easy to start a fire and should easily last you a couple of weeks. plus the cans are cheap anyway
also make sure you have stuff to fix your car if needed. this is what i carry with me.>compressor that runs off car battery>jumper leads>bottle jack>simple tool set>zip ties, duct tape, tie wire>extra oil with tiny funnel>rags>spare tire>tire patch kit
>>2847145this is not a bad list but instead of jumper cables i would suggest a rechargeable jump box that can start your car without another vehicle battery. they are pretty cheap and let you self-rescue
>>2847144Propane is even cheaper with only a slightly lower flame temperature.
Moving to Madison soon, so how would you guys rate Wisconsin? I did quite a bit of fishing there growing up, which was fantastic, but what about everything else? Hiking, homesteading, skiing, etc. I've heard are all pretty good there.
>>2847147please go back
I used to track ruffed grouse in Babcock so I recommend drunk driving home from the Applebee's in Wisconsin Rapids and getting high off UP weed.
>>2847244Where TF are you getting yooper weed that far south?
>>2847198>>2847244what are some of the best state parks?
>>2847319Voayeaguers and Isle Royale and Painted Rocks
Anyone into prospecting/panning/using similar tools to get shiny things while you're /out/? I recently bought a kit and tried it out yesterday, seems like a fun hobby. With the currency at all time lows it might even be lucrative.Might head up into the White Mountains this weekend and try my luck.
Was out today. Last day of the season as the snow has started and every thing is freezing up.Hit a lot of prospects this summer and found a few likely producers.Kind of funny hobby to have since my regular work is at a gold mine.
>>2843867don't melt it, gold buyers would rather buy it raw
>>2846227that's stuff that I amalgamated, they won't buy it in mercury. Not that I care since I've never met a buyer that will actually pay extra for raw gold. Yeah, they make more money selling it raw, but I don't get any of that money so I don't sell it to them raw.
Heading to my secret spot tomorrow, wish me luck!Hope the water level is low enough to even be able to get in, but all previous rains should have fallen as snow and it ought to be cold enough for it to not melt.
>>2847268Good luck! Looks like a beautiful spot to visit either way!
What is the thinnest /out/ glove technology available today?
>>2847009shite
>>2847017Yes but I can’t really pull off the require leather vest with no shirt or the ass-less chaps that the other village people homo uniform requires
>>2847113kek
>>2846972If you want light/thin, talk to the ULfags who don't brandwhore too hard about it. Skurka recommended SHOWA 282-02 with your choice of liner. I ordered a pair; durable, waterproof, grippy, thin enough to feel things well; almost like they were meant for holding on to a pissed off crab in a winter storm.
>>2846992>Thought about trying out latex gloves under tight knitted wool glovesWhat do you think the function of those wool gloves is?
I want to get into some winter camping (pine woodlands) and the colder it is the quieter it is out there. As such I want to take a stove with me for a cosy time, reading and carving things inside a warm tent. I'm on a basic budget but these are what I'm thinking. I don't care to spend extra on titanium even though it is half the weight, I will just take more rest stops. Which of these tents would you choose? Or which other? First tent (picrel) only fits1 person, stove inside main compartment - needs a heat mat
>>2846424>Backcountry skis are good for when it isnt steep enough to use crampons >Crampons are good for mountaineering >Cross country skis are good when it's a very low grade and you don't want to pay for expensive touring skis >Skate cross-country is good on established trails at a moderate grade when you want to go fast>Snowshoes are for when you don't know how to ski.I only kinda mean to be a dick. What other time would you use them though?
A buddy of mine uses a pop up ice fishing shelter with a hole cut in it for the stove pipe. I’ve camped in it with him a few times and it’s pretty dang warm. This is a good cheap alternative to Arctic ovens or other stove tents with the main drawback being that there’s no floor. It is very easy to set up though which some stove tents (Arctic ovens for example) are not and it’s relatively lightweight. It also has windows which is a nice touch. >>2845549As far as size goes, I haven’t used the tents in your pic but from my experience using Arctic ovens and my buddy’s ice fishing shelter, the stove takes up a ton of space especially if you are using cots like we do where I live. A 10 foot wide arctic oven can really only fit two people. I’d go with the bigger tent for comfort. Ice fishing shelters are pretty roomy and we’re able to sleep three in one although one of the cots needs to be taller and able to clear the shorter ones so they can be arranged in a U shape around the stove if that makes sense.
>>2846576>cross country is good for very low gradeEh I disagree. I’m not about to ski up a mountain with XC skis but you can herringbone up some pretty dang steep stuff on the trail. They are much more versatile when it comes to inclines than you’re implying. Same goes for skate skis which are even better on uphills since you are typically going faster, although you need relatively flat hard pack or groomed trails for skate skis. >snowshoes are for people that can’t skiI’d agree if we’re just talking about snowshoes as a method of traversing the landscape from point A to B. There are better options. But snowshoes are incredibly useful tools. When I hunt in dense woods I like to use XC skis on unmaintained forest roads to get to my hunting area and then I’ll strap on snow shoes to navigate around the trees. Snowshoes are also absolutely vital to have if you are doing any kind of off trail cross country snowmachining. They are very tiring though and I would not use them for extended travel.
>>2846582It sounds like you’re saying XC is NOT good for low grade, btw For me lots of my hikes have long approaches so winter hiking looks like this>xc ski as close as i can to the ascent with snow shoes on my back/sled>stash skis, put on boots and snow shoes>tramp up>butt slide down>enjoy the slightly downhill xc ski outSometimes it feels easier than summer hiking!!!
>>2846026>>2846024how warm does it get ?
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>>2846806Well start by getting a copy of the property map, putting some clear plastic sheets over it that you can mark. Work out the prevailing wind direction, the angle of the sun in both summer and winter, take soil tests in a mason jar to work out if it's sandy, clay, and PH test some of them to get an idea of the soil is alkaline or acidic. Many land owners don't know how to do this, can't be bothered, figure they'll do it later. But it just doesn't work like that, and nobody can help a land owner who's ploughed ahead building and planting things in stupid places.
>>2840136Ok plant boys Noticed my qt boss had a nose bump. She got all shy about it, went on about how she hates it and no one is supposed to notice it. But she was still laughing the whole time. I then made a comment how I always wanted to touch one.She said I could touch hers and put her nose close to me. I ran my finger over it a few times and said it felt how I always imagined. She found it funny then she went on again about how she hates her nose bumpCan this bite me on the ass and be used as a HR issue against me? Even if she was the one who told me to touch her nose? Also is there a way to make her feel better about her nose bump? It's actually quite nice and suits her. I quite like it
my indoor peppers keep on giving, pic related. Piment the Bresse is done for this year, you can see a few bigger pods, thats them. But the Siberian Pepper is just prolific, it is still flowering and making new pods with natural light at the window sill only. Only problem, they are too hot for me, 35k-50K Scoville and it's this nasty Cayenne heat that comes on slow and then builds and builds. Guess I dry them and use them as hot chilli flakes.
>>2847197Very nice. My Rocoto Rojo is also still really productive but this Siberian pepper sounds pretty good. Definitely going to buy some seeds and try this variety out.
Picked a poompkin other day lads. This is my threadly contribution.Also some green tomatoes.
This thread is a place to talk about outdoor climbing in any aspect (trad, sport, bouldering, aid, alpine, etc). Help out by sharing trip reports, photos, advice, etc.Climbing is inherently dangerous but so are lots of things. Climb at your own risk.Off-belay: >>2812365 (fuck mods)/xs/ thread:>>>/xs/224473There is no such thing as A5: https://youtu.be/boQHYBhlOcs?si=y66caNWQeZoVn4Tv
>>2847029>how the failure occurredi realized while i typed the question yesterday that the problem is that you are descending on rope vs rope, instead of rope against metal. in that incident you mention, the friction hitch failed probably because it heated up and eventually melted. avoiding having 2 ropes rub against each other in any part of the system is a basic thing they always teachbut other than that i think it's actually a valid system, it's good to know just in case. although if you are going to do that, you might as well attach the friction hitch to both threads insteadand in any case it's better to learn how to do the rappel on 2 carabiners thing, it's i guess safer and you probably always will have 2 carabiners available
>>2847029After Six was a lot of fun. Just left the Valley to go hang in Red Rock on my way back to NY. Driving the 395 makes me miss living on the Eastside…
>>2847069If the friction hitch is of a kevlar material (which it should be) then melting is not an issue.The primary issue is that you can't control the speed of a friction hitch and you can't move it at all while it's weighted. Basically the hitch is either completely open or completely locked, so your system would really only be useful as a backup while you downclimb.>>2847114Sick highline man that's a nice roof. Sounds like you've got a good thing going on.
>summer finally broke and the limestone no longer sweats
>JANJA GARNBRET
Who else here has autumn as their fave season?>September is perfect weather wise. Not too hot, not too cold, never any extremes in September where I'm from. Sun sets at a good time not too early, not too late>October has Halloween>November has Thanksgiving
>>2844767Be bold start coldFor me any additional layers are too much like 10 minutes in lol, assuming I'm gaining elevation. I hike in a t shirt in freezing weather but I realize I hike very warm.
>>2839690I love autumn when it doesn't rain. Which is about 3 days per autumn.
Is anyone doing anything sp00ky for Halloween weekend? Just for fun. It's a great time of year and season for wandering the woods at night or doing a cemetery chase or whatever. Anyone here have the Halloween spirit?
Happy Halloween /out/
>>2839690>November has ThanksgivingAmerican detected
Do you attend to your equipment after a good hike?
>>2847294No you LARPing gear queer
>>2847296>larp>10 minutes of brushing and applying wax Come on now
>>2847296Alright you caught me. I don't actually go on hikes anymore because it's boring. I just wear my boots to work and then oil them when I'm done. Stealth boot threads though!
>>2847294tent and sleeping bag etc, sure because they'll stink and gets uncomfortable if you don't clean them. boots though, who the hell gives a fuck
>>2847297>brushing If they are really dirty>applying waxonce or twice a year
Weather is starting to get cold and I wanted to get you guys opinion so I figured I'd get the wool general goingWhat's an acceptable blend in your guys experience for /out/ings? I'm looking at getting one of those L.L. Bean birdseye sweaters and it's 80 wool 20 Rayon. Will the rayon be detrimental at all? Anyone have experience?
>>2845706Wool greatcoats are peak aesthetics and you cannot convince me otherwise.
>>2847235i'd rather not be seen wearing those, my boreal mountain loden anorak is autistic enough
I have a lot of experiencing testing wool>For tops midlayers, here's my 2c of the bestIf you want woven for a good price, go for Great Australian Bushwear (they tend to be oversized) 70/30 woolpoly. About $100 with shipping to US.Alternatively there's Asbell Wool. It tends to run closer to $150 and I don't like the tighter fitting cuffs because you can't roll them up. I get it they are made for archery therefore the fit but that's my opinion.>If you want knit, the best 2 are these:Stanfields 80/20 wool. These run about $80 last I checked. It blends a tougher but loose enough wool to trap heat but breathe. I can't say enough how many wool/other sweaters suck. Either so thick that they don't insulate well or too thin and made for fashion.Another alternative is Petros wool sweaters. These run about $70 last I checked but come from Ukraine. This individual is actually working with the mill and has a few generations of material he is constantly updating to make the best product he can.>wool outerwearIf I went more outerwear, i'd go with a woven>knit #1. The empire wool canvas anorak is pretty good but kinda $$. I also really like Wool gloveralls. You can still find vintage duffle coats like this online that are really nice virgin wool.Swanndri's also good. The fabric is still from NZ last I checked so only the stitching is done in China>socksThe main thing you want is close to 80% wool or higher. I use Darn Tough for the warranty but I kinda like my costco ones too and find them about as warm because DT's tend to be too tight. Darn Tough has a fatter fit company called wide open socks with same warranty but they don't make a winter variant yet.>wool long johnsI find the stanfields 80/20 too scratchy for on skin but the superwool long johns work great for me. Yes 'superwool' means a plastic coating so it can be washed.
>>2847265>my boreal mountain loden anorakHoly based, Anon. Post pics, plz.I've got one of their Roughs and love it. Sewed some elbow patches onto it. Their blankets are awesome, too, although the price got jacked up since I bought mine.
>>2847283>Stanfields sells on EU amazon>Stanfields doesn't sell heavyweight wool on EU amazonUnbelievable how they import shit that everyone sells, but not the good stuff that noone else has.
I want to quit society and live out in nature.Where can I do this, and how should I prepare?
>>2838616Boss
>>2843704>Is there any reason this wouldnt work.I can't think of any.
>>2838757non-whites.that's really the only real reason.anyone else in this board saying otherwise is lying.
>>2845951only hylics need a reason to be young and restless
>>2838506What keeps you wanting to go back to society? If every female looked like that it would be pretty easy to quit society.
some say the flute, harp or others. I say its the harmonica what about you? also kalimbas are gayhere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3buSpZE-JY
>>2846713yup i like to play by my self pretty much as soon as it starts snowing nothings better than be away from people in a light snow with a wool coat and a harmonica>>2846803crazy old man style>>2846818autistic fag>>2846847because 99 percent suck
>>2846896birdman
>>2847011>>2847012hell yeah
>>2847141>https://voca.ro/14objM3DZ8qq>>2847014pretty good
>>2847258>>2847259cheers brother. do you play too? i wanna hear other people's
KEYSTONE WAS THE FIRST RESORT TO OPEN YESTERDAY AT 3PM!
>>2847106>>2847181You guys sound like pussies
>>2847182where avalanches are concerned, you should absolutely be a pussy
>>2847183Shut up woman
>>2847184>Shut u wo->aaaaaaaaaaaaaah
>>2847182I'll be sure to make a thread on here when the avalanche report "beginner retard dies on Grand Mesa" comes out this winter.
What is the largest and best hip bag you can buy?
>>2845385check out bushwhacker packs OP
That's really not where you want weight, in the war we had Molle battle belts and put a large pouch behind for things like tarps, and two in front of the hips for kit.I'd recommend a Molle belt because it will achieve what you want, but it's also useful for things like axe belts, jump kits, etc and you can get them surplus.
Pic relate. It's got flat rigging because it's assumed you will have to wear it under a rucksack and a Vietnam style chest rig. That way you can just drop the rucksack and be ready to fight. And then you can also drop the battle belt rig wherever you have to set up a forward position and then you've just got your rig with the mags.But same principle /out/, you drop your rucksack wherever you're camping, take the belt kit out to cut wood/brush/grass and carry a huge bundle back to camp on top of the belt rig similar to how you'd alice pack and that's when the shoulder straps come in clutch.
I was a milfag and belt webbing was the standard issue, chestrigs built around the armour plates were way cooler and better for urban environments but in general, belt webbing was WAY better for heavier loads and walking a long way. Our belt webbing had shoulder straps so the weight was not totally on your hips.Having said this, the purpose of belt webbing was to have multiple pouches readily available for belt ammo or whatever. Hiking around the place you would be much better witha better pack/frame and having the weight properly distributed there is more important. You could get away with a small bumbag for snacks and maps or whatever.
Don't you people order from space? I thought we all had the same one on ;) LOL
Just ordered the largest head mounted umbrella I could find. Are they any good?
It came, we saw, he died.
>>2844006>gust of wind>neck status: broken
>>2847273They better send it with a warning or else I'll come to America, get moderate whiplash at my leisure (probably while fishing), and then sue them for damages. This is my big ticket into the land of the free baby I can feel it.
>>2844010samefucking kek'd at the flat .jpg water on the umbrella