Post your preferred hiking shoe and the rest of us can judge how /out/ they are
>>2868291I wear these year round in Alaska
>>2877790So faggy
I wear my steel toe cats everywhere, from the job site to backpacking. It's only been a couple months, I'm curious if they'll be as out as my Keens (I did the same thing with them for 4 years)
My meme shoes but extremely comfy
>>2881844Only pretentious larpers hate these. I have worn these on three continents, four seasons, dozens of peaks, hunted hundreds of time in them, etc.
General thread for freediving and/or spearfishing, since I don't see one mentioning either.My personal questions:I've been thinking about taking a certification course so I can learn to do these things correctly and safely. I'm probably happy just doing the diving, but spearfishing seems like an easy and practical extension. I only casually skindive and rod-and-reel fish at the moment. Does anyone have experience taking such a course?I know I'll need my own gear early on, but each instructor I can find seems to have their own equipment shops, so I imagine they wouldn't be impartial about the quality of other gear on the market. I live on the Pacific coast of the US, so I see that a 7 mm open cell wetsuit is strongly recommended. What good/bad features should I look out for on wetsuits and other equipment? For non-competitive diving, carbon fiber fins are almost certainly not worth the price, right?
>>2814016Thats a sweet kagami brother
>>2878803Why do the locals hate scuba fishers?
>>2878803Is it feasible for a non-local to come to HI and do a little spearing without getting the shit beat out of them? If so, which island would be best? I kind of fantasize about just camping in the woods (i did that plenty in Oahu) and living off fish for a week.
When the weather starts to get cold, I start to reconsider whether I should have moved to the tropics.
>Be avid freediver>holiday in dahab>go out looking for gay eel garden>alone, bout 30m from shore, only 5m deep>can't find shit>look up in the distance>see great white cruising past >closest thing to fear I've experienced>head back wait to get ripped apart at any moment20 years ago and I've never been in the water since
I posted this thread on the travel board, but I thought maybe you guys would be able to give me some advice too...So this is gonna sound really stupid and crazy, but I'm so fucking miserable and I just hate my life and I'm so bored all the time just tired of everything. And I'm out of shape, and I'm really stupid and worthless. I can't take care of myself. I'm addicted to self destruction and I want to change so bad. I want to do something really dramatic, something that will shock my whole nervous system into survival mode so I can find God and become the Man I know I can be.Sorry this is really melodramatic and unhinged, I'm kinda cringe. But I want to walk.. like from my house all the way to Alaska. I just want to walk there. I'm broke, I have no car and very little money. But I figure I could just walk there, and start a new life.I know it would be hard. I have about $3000 in savings and I would probably need that mostly for food and stuff along the way. I might have to figure out news ways of making money on the way. I'd need to figure out all kinds of things.What I'm most worried about is freezing to death in my sleep and encountering territorial wild animals somewhere. Besides that I also worry about being robbed or murdered by other humans.This is sort of a radical question, so I'd appreciate any and all opinions / advice / suggestions things I should learn / read / buy before I go. Or on the way. I know this is probably stupid but please try to keep an open mind..
You need Jesus, it's that simple.
>>2878028You greatly overestimate natives in this state. They stick to Anchorage or the villages. There are literally dozens of smaller towns within 60 miles of Anchorage that I would describe as majority white. Outside of that is where you get your crime stat filled eskimo on eskimo crime.
>>2877741Hey man, I know I'm late but I've lived in Fairbanks. The summers are amazing. Idyllic. Fairytale sort of situation. The winters are long, dark, and fucking brutal. That being said, save up money and white-knuckle through your life in wherever the fuck just a little longer, and when April/May rolls around, head up there. There's a MASSIVE labor shortage there. Everyone is lazy, stupid, and high. If you can show up to work on time and sober, you're way ahead of the game
>>2877741Just go loser. Walk, hitchhike, find rides in Craigslist rideshare. I've done it -not quite that far, but it's not really that hard. $3k will last a year if you're smart about it.
>>2878071Take the Northwest passage like a man
Post YouTubers you wanna go /out/ with
>>2881684patchouli, sweat and roses
>these hagsYou'd camp with Ssobberry
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>>2881680I would be up in there eating that pussy through her pants immediatelyuntil her juices and my saliva formed a melange, soaking her crotch in a sticky filmthen I would pull her pants down and make her sit on my face for like an hour
>kills your /out/ experience
>>2881678if anything it’s poors that have learned the hard way what you can live without and what can be used or done instead of the expensive things
>>2881678It has nothing to do with that, and everything to do with the types of people for whom consuming copious amounts of gasoline is critical to their "outdoor experience". They are poor of spirit, poor of mind, poor of relationship with nature.You're probably one of them.
>>2875723>>2875717No response 3 months later? KeK!!
>>2881754Truth Nuke so hard he committed suicide, kek.
My goal is mostly winter backcountry travel. Basically: snowshoeing sucks.I want to keep hiking and camping through the winter. I already have all the other gear and have done a fair amount of winter backpacking and even some mountaineering. I want a setup I can grow into as I move into higher angle terrain, but I want it to be okay for random rambles in rolling terrain and cross country flats. I don't see myself doing too much intense downhill and don't care if I can "charge hard" or "send it" or whatever. I get that a "one size fits all" / "quiver killer" setup will come with trade-offs. I've basically narrowed it down to three options:XCD - I suppose this will be better at the XC side, but comes with a limit on the terrain angle. I get the sense that most of the D in XCD is just "telemark on shitty skis", which from my understanding is harder than all the other options here if you aren't already a competent free-heel skier."Skishoes" - aka Hok Skis / OAC / Glidelites / Skinbased skis. This seems ideal in theory, especially in that they are intended as "less shitty snowshoes", but I think come with the same tradeoffs as XCD, just a lower barrier to entry and lower efficiency. Most reviews of these from experienced skiers say they suck, but I am not an experienced skier.Ultralight AT setup - thinking a low tech binding on an touring ski with climbing focused ski boots. Again, the focus here is not so much on downhill as it is on "getting around the backcountry in winter", but I think such a setup probably has no upper limit on the angle or terrain it can be used in, limited only by my experience level. Drawbacks are this is obviously more expensive (though I found a pair of high end mountaineering ski boots at the local used gear shop for like, nothing, and they're relatively comfy) and might be overkill. I live in the /out/ paradise of Northern Idaho. So the terrain is all over the place.I have literally zero interest in resort skiing.
>>2881665Yeah, there's a reason nobody free-heel skis downhill anymore, except for old guys and hipsters who are so good at alpine they get bored and take up telemark. It's a hard skill.
Are you using your snowshoes right? Heel lift makes a big difference. I used my snowshoes like a dumbass without unlatching the back, which was really tiring.Skis aren't worth it in woods if you don't have a clear path... I think. Honestly a lot of the skis vs snowshoes debate is sour grapes from the snowshoes side. Skis with skins are really efficient, and you can carry lightweight crampons when the terrain doesn't suit skiing. I don't know enough to help with specifics, I only snowshoe.>ultralight AT setupI'd probably do this if I were to get into snowshoeing.For backpacking consider a pulk too. Winter is heavy.
The Voile BC series of skis have fish scale on the bottom so you can run them over rolling terrain without needing to put skins they are sort of the perfect blend for traveling over snow. I use them with Tele Bindings but many people use them with AT bindings or even the Alfa Free XCD bindings.This guy on youtube covers a lot of current optionshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMze4vazlg0
>>2881652You live near my neck of the woods and want to do the same things as me. Asnes out of Norway makes good skis for this sort of thing, it is very popular there. You can get down some surprising terrain with an XCD setup and some forethought. Just moved down here so not sure what snow conditions will be though. Powder+skinny skis can be rough, but packed snow+wide skis will be rougher.
I don't ski, I snowboard. But I'd recommend a ski touring set up with skins (not the skiis with built in skins but the kind you can put on). You say you're not interested in going downhill but for hiking/camping/exploring in the mountains its an awesome form of travel when you can slide across snow instead of walking (which is why snowshoeing is gay).
How do you deal with normgrels who refuse to buy any proper gear to go on an actual hike after asking you to take them with you? I fucking hate these people, if you can't even bother with buying a decent pair of boots don't even ask.
>>2880981if you don’t have quality shoes and socks you will be suffering a lot. socks matter too because some are like sandpaper on long walks and have so ridiculously tight straps that it messes with blood flow
>>2880033Define proper gear?Gortex?Spandex?Nylon and polyester?Wool?Whats wrong with denim? Whats wrong with a pair of all leather loggers?People not knowing is why it ends up sucking. Not learning from the knowledge you gain with blisters or how to pack is why outdoors sucks for most.Is a guy in a hoodie jeans and an alice ruck a normie? What if he knows what hes doing?I think youre more concerned with retards than the normal person who knows theyre not gunna die on a 10 mile trail.In which case youre a retard and hate that others have fun.Ill wear blue jeans work boots and a huk fishing sunhoodie just to spite you next time and theres nothing you can do.Quit being a faggot and be more selective with the retards you spend your time with.
>>2881480>good mix of simple carbs and sugars like candy with complex carbsNo.
>>2881629everything except shoes and socks is optional do what you prefer but the ten miles back will be awful when bad footwear grinds your feet to such pain its hard to walk
>>2880033Don't worry, they won't ask again. Autistic retards make threads like these and then wonder why they're lonely. Kek
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>>2881496Well they are a short term solution but for 99% of people her clean water is a short term problem too? They will always have a place because the tablets are sub 1g. You can use drops like Chlorine dioxide, iodine or bleach depending on the level of pollution you expect. And it's enough Florida and chlorine in the municipal water to make the frogs gay anyway. Btw You can deactivate it with vitamin c.
>>2881244is she ok?
do you have grease for your frying pan? dont want your food to stick
what about a uv-c light you could place in your water container? add a portable solar panel and you would be fine for a really long time
>>2881719uv light is not a good method, for it to work the water must be 100% transparent, any particle in the water will create a shadow where bacteria or other patogens will not be afected by the uv light.tabs are the most light and easy way
I have a job where I often talk to all types of people about the weather and one thing ive never understood is the natural inclination to associate a rainy cloudy day with bad feeling. I get not wanting to get soaked but to me theres this immediate blissful feeling when I breathe in the air from a rainy day. Im sure you could reference our evolutionary history, rain put out fires and tattered your home but it also made for a more bountiful crop, nowadays places that dont get enough rain suffer for it. I live for the rain and as an avid hiker im way more likely to want to tromp through the woods on a misty day or even rainy day.
Rain chads rise up
>>2881273i have this collegue that wont show up at the office if there is even the tiniest bit of clouds in the skyit is getting ridiculous at this point
>>2881358its good if you don’t need to be exposed to it. it sucks if you’re out on a bicycle for example. you also need extra gear to cope with it and might not have when the surprise rain comes. so many times they predict no rain only for it to rain like crazy
>>2881273I think it comes more from duration of the rainy weather. Day after day after day of cold ,wet weather does take a physcological toll. It one thing to bask in the refreshing storm of a nice long stratiform event for a day or 2 but month after month of rarely seeing the sun and constantly being wet doesnt seem that great...and maybe that general feeling has been extrapolated to rainy day=bad day syndrome. But I love bad weather so I dont count.
>>2881273Well the answer is in your own replies about how you are just sitting on your porch not even being exposed to it you larper
Share tips and trips to maximize gait efficiency
>>2880637Using trekking poles all day with serious elevation gain/loss does make my gripping muscles in my hand sore
>>2880652Yeah it was the trekking poles, definitely. Not your free handjobs at the trailhead.
>>2880630i will take a photo of the wooden beam/video the area so you can see how remote it is next time i am there. i will make the thread called "very remote beam"
>>2880601Incredibly zesty, fruity even
>>2880611you mean rapist POV you fucking retard
Discuss nudism. Is it something you grew up with, or found later in life? Have you ever considered giving it a try?I wanted to try making a thread on a blue board in the hopes that there could be a serious discussion instead of the degenerate gooning the occasional nudism thread devoles into on /b/.
>>2861208fuck, same.I've done it alone, it was nice, sunning your balls feels great, it feels right.but remember your sunscreen, anons.>but ancient people didnt use sunscreenthey also didn't have a destroyed ozone layer and didn't walk around naked all the time.
I'm visiting Austria and took an excursion to the FKK area of the Danube river. The weather was perfect, the water was warm. I only saw four other bathers, two women and two men. And lots of textile bikers passing through of course. On one hand I thought more people would be enjoying the weather, but at least it's not being overrun by textiles.
Was part of the volk movement in the 2000's. Nudism is a belief which is fairly synonymous with the Germanic health culture movement, medicinal nudity. Voyeurism is cultural, a kind of sexual giving. It's very similar to naiveté. Neither are naturalistic. There's the absence of taboo, which is naturalistic, not a specific belief, causal nudity. Where if clothes are going to be a problem you just take them of. If they're not needed you don't put them on. Synonymous with this is wearing clothing which isn't socially acceptable but is again, just incidentally fit for purpose. There's strangely little cross over. Everyone who isn't into vourism regards them as perverts, everyone who isn't into therapeutic nudism regards them as religeous lunatics, everyone who isn't into utilitarianism just sees them at flashers.The volk just don't care much about clothing generally, we don't care what we wear, when we wear it, who isn't clothed, it's purely incidental. When we gather someone will be in their pygamas, someone will have no shit, one guy will be in work clothes, a child will be naked and an old person will be in a suit. Or any combination thereof. We just don't care. As such most people don't regard us as nudists, you're at likely to see me in my dressing gown, work uniform as in a state of undress.
>>2881210Jesus fucking Christ anon.Pushups and pullups, bitte.>Bathing nude in the DanubeFucking awesome though.
>>2859817was your friend a man?pretty gay if it was
what gun should i use to shoot the armadillo that keeps digging up my sweet potatoes?
Nugget, with the surplus ammo for its AP qualities.Report back with results
>>2881534Mosin if ur /k/ommandoLevergat if u are /out/ American Frontiersman tierFor me its hillbilly 10/22 thatll teach the groundswirrels to not tunnel under my shed.single shot 410 has given a perfect kill ratio but shells are just 2 expensive now
>>2881534why are you so pressed about sweet potatoes?grow sunchokes insteadand leave the armadillo alone
>>2881603>leave the armadillo alone
>>2881603>sunrootfantastic way to have an invading monster that makes you fart your ass offt. proud owner of a patch of sunrootreally though, thats an entirely different plant, might as well be recommending parsnips or cassava
can anyone recommend a good pair of hiking boots? price doesn't really matter, i'm just trying to get a decent pair of boots that won't bust a hole straight through the bottom like my last pair (my walking posture is fine)
>>2843934I swear to god all sneakerfags are larpers who only walk babby's first trail and then act like they're professional outdoorsmen
picked up these Lowa renegade gtx boots at the return rack at REI for $140, basically unused (no dirt or wear, even the insole logo was pristine, guess the returner didn't even walk a mile in them), size 12s which is a half size up from my street shoes 11.5 US. got some first impressions:>extremely comfortable with thick merino socks, right off the bat. probably because it uses multiple stiched leather pieces that flex better than stiff full-grain leather boots. did not need breaking in at all. i have wider, arched feet and i did not feel any hotspots anywhere around the toebox at all, which most boots usually rub against my pinky toe until i break them in more. >has sufficient waterproofing, went hiking after a rainstorm and had plenty of puddles to stomp around in and my feet stayed dry up to my ankles>not the hardest bottom boot. you definitely feel larger pointier rocks through the vibram sole. outer rubber is tough but it doesn't seem like the outer soles aren't excessively hard, which i prefer because super-hard bottomed soles makes it easier to roll my ankles>laces they come with are slippy, recommend changing the laces with your own, or tie a few more surgeon loops while crisscrossing>ankles feel well supported, had a couple rolls off a steep section on a trail and it protected my ankles pretty well, doesn't feel tough around my ankles at all with tall socksall in all, just a really comfortable hiking boot that feels durable but not excessively heavy and stiff. the best things about the boots is how i didn't even need to break them in and how it has that really nice goldilocks zone of sole hardness where you can really get a lot of traction on rough spots without feeling like you're doing a balancing act on rocks.
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>>2843610Altama makes great boots and shoes.
>>2843610Get a pair of carolina elm loggers. Break em in at work. Go hiking. Been my hiking boots for 10 years. Finally on 2nd pair never had an issue. Farthest i went in a day was 20 miles.
Night vision or thermal?
>>2879398Thermal, unless you can afford white phosphorus. A majority of cheap NVG's are just IR.>>2879405IR's super easy to pick up if your using it as a light. >>2880256>Rain really fucks thermal though.The same goes for broad daylight (where inverted works a bit better). If your hunting, IR's far more reasonable as it's cheaper and the animals don't care your pumping the forest full of IR to see them.
>>2879398Two eyes. Two monoculars. Get the benefits of both.
I dont like how low resolution all the non stupidly expensive thermal gear is. Good for short distances and big targets but anything small is just a few blurry pixels on your screen and you dont know what the fuck you are watching.
>>2879398Night vision, specifically analogue types. Digital thermals and nvg dont have refresh rates good enough to consistently wear and operate with. On a rifle though, thermals all day.
>>2879557Gen 3 works fine under some of the darkest conditions. Theres always enough light to navigate.
How do you brew coffee while /out/?
>>2869207Turkish coffee.You make it almost like you make tea.Coffee is for druggies , BTW!Coffeine is a narcotic that creates addiction.
>>2869327Hell of a hastle to clean it and requires lots of water.All those tiny holesget easily filled.The water is not always easy find in the wild and it weights tons to carry.This is why I love winter . But even thrn I would not waste time and fuel to make enough water to clean that thing.
>>2869378Heh you're totally right>cracks a redbull and sips
i don’t really yet. been meaning to get something for it for months now but still don’t
>>2869209its actually not. i dont like the remains that you end up having in your mouth if not careful. that stuff doesn’t just dissolve into the cup
