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Realistically. How do we get poor people into practicing ski?
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>>2863310
Lots of resorts only check passes on the base-area lifts. I always figured you could hike your shit up to a mid-mountain lift and just ride that all day. if i cared enough about skiing to ever go alone, I'd try this.
That, or learn backcountry and get a friend to figure out a car-shuttleable backcountry route you can do over and over.

>>2863441
Council? Red Cross? Where the fuck are you skiing, the Swat Valley?
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>>2863445
Car shuttle only works if you have 3 or more people or someome has a gf that just wants to sit in the car and watch TikTok.
Dropping off one person in the middle of nowhere and skiing alone is a bad idea.
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>>2863444
Norway, but yes.
I live in a fairly small village, and some of the people living here are (relatively) poor from unlucky circumstances. Mostly their lowlife parents ruining their shit at every turn, but they've been given opportunities to make it out of the shit, and they're making it in their own way.

>>2863445
>Council
Probably my English being less than good. The city? Town hall? Anyway, they pay to get the tracks prepared like in pic related: Two tracks for classic skiing, space in the middle is for the people who use the skating technique, there's a big fuss every year because people walk in the tracks or dogs shit there, or people are braking in the skating areas.
>Red Cross
The national arm of the Red Cross does a lot of neat stuff, it's not all handing out space blankets, water and nutraloaf in refugee camps in terrible countries:
>Secondhand stores
>Sports equipment rental
>Children's free summer camp
>Help phone lines
>Youth meeting spots with free activities, help with homework, et c.
>Visiting the lonely and elderly, sometimes with therapeutic dogs

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>>2863453
Technical competence to match the English, lol. Here's the picture.
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>>2863453
I was actually going to say Sweden or Norway at first but then felt like I was being closed.minded and needed to spread around the socialism....

And "council" in context from a Brit refers to "Government owned/controlled/funded". Its their main source of welfare. They have government owned apartments for The Poors they just call "Council Flats".

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The snowy world you grew up in no longer exists.

There are those out there who made billions depriving you of snowy winters.
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>>2857990
>>2862140
Damn nigga you legit 'tarded as fuck
I feel bad for you
Like, real bad
Smh
God damn
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>>2862607
Everybody can tell you arent black, "nigga"
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>>2862610
Who's post I just flexed on
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>>2859003
>nuclear are the future of energy.
Biteme,,,are you going to watch the spent fuel for 11,000 years TWAT!,
,,,ooooo ya, RECYCLING=depleted uranium munitions.,100 TONS spread across Iraq.,
,,,,getyour broom and sweepup Fukashima!
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climatamperingone,,,wrong.,
,,some planes leave Thick trails,,some cant afford to save the earth.,cheap bastards!

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Any experience using Meshtastic devices out on a camping trip or whatever?
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>>2858228
Hey
I ended up with a device just the other day and me and my buddy went hiking in the mountanins testing this shit.

Here's my two cents:
>Almost completely useless in deep innawoods: the signal had zero penetration and with lots of trees involved, we lost contact at like 600 meters and switched back to radios
>On the other hand, impressive range when direct line of sight or altitude is present: I was able to make contact, although briefly, with a node 500 km away (by hopping on 6 devices along the way)
>The GPS and waypoint sharing is very nice and useful
>Several nodes in the area provide live weather updates, which is sweet.
>The device is small and compact (Wio Tracker L1) and the battery can hold up for several days no problem.
>The app while stable and intuitive can be kind of hostile at first
>Firmware is stable and the device allows you to read messages on screen and type messages with the built in joystick, no phone involved. Kinda basic atm but you got the functionalities.
>Not waterproof. Keep that shit inside a pouch.

Honestly, I like it. I wouldn't pick it over the radio but it has practical uses.

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meshtastic is more of a hobby for people interested in radio.
if you want to buy something off the shelf and just use it in the woods to text your party or whatever, you're fucked.
Everyone's complaint is that it has shit range, and almost everyone complaining has a fucking shit radio with a shit antenna.
That's the problem, you have to be a radio enthusiast and be good at soldering and have some backgound in electronics AND be deeply into camping and hiking.
My personal node is a custom board made by some guy and it does 2w transmit power, but i had to myself figure out a battery, make a case, buy a suitable antenna and mount it, buy a sutiable gps antenna and mount it, spend like $180, and then after all that I have one radio that will work pretty much always within a half mile and mostly work up to like 1 mile, while anything past that you have to have at least no hills in the way and it will work.

That being said, that is all ad-hoc. if you have actual existing nodes around that are built well and in proper places to provide coverage, your usability goes quite higher. but that is pretty rare.

Imo, it isnt really useful for hiking, where it can be useful is camping, glamping, fishing, outdoor activities that normies do basically. Like when do you go hiking with friends and you are greater than talking distance away from each other enough to warrant this
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>>2858228
what for
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>>2863309
My complaint is that range sucks ass for lora. But I am really into HF and vhf radio so I think I am expecting to much out of it. The APRS suggestion is the best in this thread and of course it gets scoffed out of. They won’t jam VHF across the country. That is a retarded fear to not use the best solution available.
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>>2858401
I don't think it's too hard to believe that bodies can be burning in the streets and buildings falling over and a bureaucrat from central authority still comes knocking at your door for using the bands without a license.
Or all licenses will be revoked immediately anyway.
So moot, but also maybe not impossible it's not moot.
Comedy always.

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Admire my mushrooms (lepista nuda)
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I reach the range of forest druid
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Bonus track agaricus campestris, also tasty

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Any /carriers/ here? I’ve accepted a conditional offer to be a PTF city carrier in a besotted urban hub in the upper South and idk what to expect. I’m 6’3, 220lbs—fairly fat, problem drinker, heavy cigarette smoker, but I can easily walk 20 hilly miles a day with a 50lb messenger bag and don’t mind the heat. And I can clean myself up if needed. Is this a good job pour moi? Considering I don’t have a CDL and don’t know how to code or anything about any trade obviously. And not particularly worried about braving dog-rich urban neighborhoods. I love rednecks and I love black people
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The best tip I can give you is try to to stay in the "goldilocks" zone. That means you dont deliver too slowly, but not too quickly either.

Also, it was my experience that management vastly preferred speed to being careful. I got way less shit for being sloppy and fast than for being careful and slow. I would say 75% speed and 25% care is about the right ratio. Its easy to do it right though, honestly.

Ask me anything else you want
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>>2863359
Thanks man. If you’re still checking the thread. This is pretty much what I’ve heard from others. I’m probably going to go for it because I need the money. Were you typically on a different route every day? I’m most concerned about never getting a hold down if that’s the correct term, getting sent out to different stations, just doing pieces of different routes all the time
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>>2863382
I was a regular, so I had my own route. It depends though, typically since you're new, its gonna be two years before you get a regular slot. I was a CCA for two years before I made reg. And then itll be the bottom of the barrel routes. Until that point you will be put wherever they want you, including different stations. You can, however, put in for a route if the regular is out for any amount of time and then youll do that route every day until theyre back. Thats subject to seniority too though, so if you and another plf put in for the same route and he has more seniority, he'll get it.

Honestly I preferred doing different ones every day. Meant when I got a shit route I almost never had to do it twice. Also meant more leeway since they wont expect you to be familiar with the route. Some guys preferred getting on one route asap though.

In my city, everyone that wasnt a regular got sent out almost on a daily basis because there was ALWAYS a station shitting itself (we have 13 offices here, you might not have so many). So we would finish all our own work, then have to drive to another office and finish theirs too. I was out until 11pm some nights. Probably wont be that bad for you.

Big tips
Wear sunscreen
Stay hydrated
Dont bother joining the union until youre past probation, they cant protect you until that point and itll be wasted dues
Also, put in a bit more hustle until probation is done, once you get there you can relax a bit

And if you make regular, be careful, thats when management will try to fuck you. Thats when theyll start threatening your pension, etc.


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Like I said though, pretend to care more until probation is done. They WILL drop you for little shit until that point.

After probation you are almost bullet proof. Union can get you out of nearly any fuck up you can imagine at that point.

And be nice to people's dogs. That helps. Those little creatures were the only bright part of my day out there.
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>>2863323
Based iguanodon

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Is adidas terrex underrated as an outdoors brand? I just never really considered them as an option because I just assumed that their stuff was shit because they are mostly an athletics brand but I got some of their stuff for running trails and I'm actually pretty happy with it. I wouldn't pay full price for any of it but their stuff constantly goes on sale so you can get it at least half price. I used to wait for Patagonia shit to go on sale like once a year or get REI's in-house brand but they have been jacking up prices.
I only tried basic stuff like shirts and pants so far but I was also wondering if their shoes and jackets are any good. Their warmer jackets use primaloft which I know some people don't like as much as down but I never wore anything with it.
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>>2863291
If you get it on sale, yeah. They started of as shit but just kept at it, and by now most of their stuff is pretty good.
I still don't buy it, I usually try buying things made in the EU. But objectively their stuff is fine.
As far as trail shoes go, they're a lot better then the shit Nike, Hoka and Salomon pump out (the road unning brands are even worse).
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>>2863291
Support small specialized brands and not gigantic, evil mega-corporations.
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>>2863363
small specialized brands are giga expensive
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>>2863370
I feel like a lot of the "smaller independent" places use that as an excuse to fuck you over too. Like an in person art store I went to wouldn't price match their own website for me. Ridiculous enough to charge more in store but even more to not price match. I just said fuck it and ordered it off Amazon.
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>>2863370
Not true. I'm not talking about boutique shit.

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>>2856996
I like to vary things, but here's some constants:
>Snacks
- honey glazed nuts with sesame. Taste heavenly.
- Homemade jerky.
>Breakfast
- A fried breakfast egg is great. If you live in a country where they are sold refrigerated (america does it I think), then taking eggs refrigerated is probably unsafe, so stay safe out there, but if you live in a country where that isn't the case, they'll be shelf stable for weeks. Do be careful with setting down your bag though (I put them in a ziploc just in case of leakage).
- Oats, milk powder and the add-ins of choice (raising and cinnamon, or chocolate, or similar) make for a great porridge. Just overnight soak with some water and heat in the morning if you want it warm.
- Coffee (I tend to just bring pre-ground and a metal filter that fits onto a cup. Immersion brew in a pot, filter and clean the pot).
>Main Dishes
- My absolute best dish: Couscous. In a bag add: Couscous, dried parsley, dried herbs of choosing (anything Mediterranean works), freeze dried onions/shallots, raisins, some curry powder (just a little) and the secret ingredient: Powdered citric acid, about a knife's tip. This is what makes the difference between boring and fresh taste. Add some form of meat, either smoked sausage or canned meat (spam works), fry that up too.

(cont)
Picrel, the couscous. Visually appalling, flavor-wise unbeatable.
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(cont)
- Falafel: 3 Ingredients: Wheat wraps, powdered falafel and middle eastern salad (cubed onion, cucumber and tomato). For the falafel add water, let it sit, then rather than deep frying balls, squish them down a little and shallow fry as disks. The middle eastern salad can be made in advance or in camp fresh, but the cucumber and tomato tend to get beat up after a few days, so it's a early meal.
- If you're in camp for long: White beans (you can pre-soak in the backpack to save time), cook in fire, drain. Add herbes de provence, some cut up smoked fatty sausage for flavor. Add tomato. Depending on the weight and trash situation, either canned or puree, which you water down. Optional, but makes it much nicer: Add some cream. (The shelf stable kind in cartons works).
- The ol' garlic ramen: Two containers, one with a mix of light onions sauce and dark chinese vinegar (about 3:1, or just onions sauce if you're lazy), another with neutral oil. Cook the ramen and drain the water. Heat the oil so it starts rippling on top. Put the ramen powder in an empty bowl, put the raw garlic on top, then pour the hot oil over it so it sizzles. Mix and add the onions sauce. Then add the cooked ramen and mix again. Amazing flavor. If you have an egg, a fried egg as a topping is even nicer, though I rarely bother.

Picrel, the falafel before frying them up. Didn't take pics of the final thing though.
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For me? It's tuna creation packets, cheese dippers, a couple chocolate bars, and some sausages. Maybe a can or two of canned corn and canned chicken
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>>2863354
Oh and you can't forget the water, energy drinks, and rye whiskey
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I usually bring some chocolate, nuts and dried fruit, but I've started making my own beef jerky from ground beef. The batches I've made have been good so far, but I wouldn't trust it for more than two days.

>>2860794
I always stock up on them whenever they're on sale in Lidl.

I think the Cracow-Częstochowa Uplands in Poland are a bit underrated outing place
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what would be the best place around there to hang a hammock for a night or two?
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Yeah krakow and surrounding areas are great for adventuring, cause all of poland north of here is flat and boring lol. I like to take my 7" FPV and get some nice views. This pic is from like an hour south of here two weeks ago
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>>2854582
I'd love to see those castles in real life.
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>>2854582
Oh I know that finger.
Where should I ride this season apart from Skala and Olkusz around Krakow?
I think gotta go south closer to the big mountains.
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>>2863293
if you want small hike

So im planning to snare trap the nutria at my local lake. Ive got the trap and a few fitting spots and all.
The only thing im unsure about is how to do the actual kiling. I was thinking of just grabbing its neck and cutting its throat, the same way one kills a fish. Will it thrash around so much that this isnt a good idea? I will wait near the trap, so he will not be tired out once i try to go for the kill. I wanna kill the little fella as quickly as possible with as little pain as possible but im unsure where to stab him. Will a pocket knife suffice or should i bring a large chef knife? Guns are not an option. These animals have nasty teeth so im somewhat scared to get hurt.
Also considered a hatched or an axe but this wouldnt really be the most painless method and im also concerned about ruining the fur which i wanna use later on. Has anyone here got experience with killing critters like that and can give some pointers on how to approach the killing blow please?
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>>2862493
Consider wearing a welding glove on the hand you intend to grab the critter with.
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Depends on how humane you're feeling.
If it's on the low end, you can drown it in a barrel or something like it, full of water and with a lid on. Or weigh it down and throw it in a suitable body of water. My grandfather used to trap stray cats in a cage trap, and he would just kick the trap over the edge of the quay, cat and all, and pull the trap out a few days later, when the cat would be drowned and the crabs and little fish would have started eating it. He'd shake the cat out, bait the trap and set it again. That's not very nice, and a terrible way to go. But it works, and you don't ruin the fur.
If you leave it in the trap, it's going to sort itself out somehow. That is an even worse way to go, and very cruel besides. But it works. I found grandpa's traps a few years ago, and three of them had the mummified remains of cats in them. Don't know when they got in there, but he died in 2002.
If you're feeling humane, hit it in the noggin as hard as you can with something heavy. A heavy metal shovel should do the trick. That should at the very least knock them out for a bit. Depending on the animal, the force might cause their eyes to pop out, or bulge out in a grotesque way. It looks almost cartoonish, and would probably be very funny if it wasn't so grotesque.
When they're knocked out, that's when you bleed them, by, simply put, cutting their throat with a sharp knife. Pocket knife, chef knife, don't make no nevermind so long as it's sharp.
Instead of a snare, you could use a striking trap, like a Conibear. I don't know about no nutria, but the mink-sized ones I've used are mean enough, so you'll want to take care you don't get your fingers crushed in it. Here's a video on how you can set them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-8MJHLzR8E
And make sure to anchor your trap properly, lest you have an injured animal running around. That's entirely unnecessary and easily preventable.
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>>2862513
>>2862514
>>2862516
then i will use a chainmail glove and a steel fish club
thank you guys for the good intel
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>>2862493
The trappers I know just use a .22 pistol
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>>2862493
Foot on head, grab back legs and pull.

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Hello /out/ it's me again. Maybe it is time for another abandoned mine exploration thread. I have posted these for over a decade; this will be the last one. AMA. I'll answer what I can. I hope you enjoy.
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Cool thread, cheers bro. Kinda sad these places are disappearing over time
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>>2863230
no mine here, just one of the few nuclear test spots people can freely access.
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>>2863198
Love the enthusiasm, but these are close quarters with minimal ventilation. M-14 is too long, and white phosphorus will deplete your O2. Better off with a carbine or smg and potato mashers.
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>>2863256
Thanks, brother. It is amazing they have lasted this long.
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it's funny how we find things like this. I've never visted /out/ before today and the only reason I have is because the banner made me chuckle and then I saw this thread. Got curious and read through the whole thing

Thanks for your work over the years anon. I may not have been around to see it, but if this thread is anything to go by, it was worth it all the while. It's a shame there's hardly any mines like this in my area. Most of them have been completely blocked off or didn't go underground to begin with

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Me and my friend thought its funny to paint fresh panties and hook it on a fence in a corner barley any one goes to
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>>2860664
i've heard old hunters used to tie used bloody tampons to trees and shit, something about the smell and the pheromones are supposed to attract deer.
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I bought a used backpack and inside I found girls panties and a piece of rope.
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>>2861415
one day we caught 8 ball raul twice
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>>2860600
My friends and I would "liberate" shopping carts by sending them back into the woods that surrounded the grocery store. You'd run full tilt with the cart and launch it as far as you could, as deep as you could

idk why but it felt good, not rebellious or stupid or anything, genuinely freeing
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>>2860600
>find dead bat in abandoned building
>put 5 sticks is star shape, put the dead bat in the middle
>leave
I did this 2 or 3 times I think.

>>2860631
I goatfished. Obviously with no hook at all, just hay attached to the fishing line.

From my early teenage years, many things with fireworks like exploding cow dungs, battles with rotten apples or melons, rafts built with phytochemical barrels.

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Is it possible to live completely cut off from the rest of the world? Not using money or having to work.
If so where and what are the basic tools required?
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>>2856323
The big problem is having enough food and how to store and make it last through winter if you live in that environment.
Having some goats or sheep and chickens will provide you with milk and egg, but the animals will also require food so it's hard having many, which also limits the food they can produce.
Hunting, trapping, fishing and foraging will provide some, but you need gear, it can be time consuming and the government will frown upon any illegal hunting or fishing without permits if that's required in your area. So you'll need at least some money for that.

Stinging nettle, along with other edible weeds, are a good source of food and have been used for survival.
You can of course grow your own food as well. Cabbage and similar is probably easiest.
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>>2856323
I'm sure it'd be far easier to accomplish this outside America. Theres even tribes you could potentially join.
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>>2862406
This seems to be a product of modern society. You've been ingrained to function in a society. You'd need to slowly ween yourself off or yea, you'll shock yourself.
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Lots of fear mongering itt. If you think you have what it takes, go for it OP. People make a huge fuss out of homelessness and make it seem like it's worse than death but it's not that bad. Of course, everyone is different, and have different thresholds of what they're willing to tolerate and put up with and whatnot.
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>>2863272
>You can of course grow your own food as well. Cabbage and similar is probably easiest.
potatoes will grow anywhere and you can survive only on them (if you eat the skin too)

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>look up at the clouds
>"you're not that guy pal"
>"just move along buddy"
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What states don't have a mud season? Looking to go somewhere this spring but it seems like a lot of the cool states i was thinking have horrible mud seasons in spring apparently.
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>like that PNW which have a Mediterranean climate
>there are microclimates in the gulf islands
>yeah man in the small exceptions it's kind of true that's obviously what we're talking about here
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>>2861664
>>2861659
Did you guys really not know that? Haven't you ever wondered why it doesn't rain for weeks and months at a time? You must be transplants, or don't even live here.

Tourists think the PNW gets a lot of rain. What it gets are a lot of months with small amounts of measurable rain. That's not the same thing. 8 months of cold, cloudy weather with ~.03in or less of rain most days, 4 months of warm, very dry weather. That's Mediterranean, my friend.

Go hawks.
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>>2862484
>What it gets are a lot of months with small amounts of measurable rain.
So it rains all the time, got it!
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>>2861604
You like that double stuffed, don't you, you dirty bastard? I know I do. ;)
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>>2862484
But a lot of that pnw med climate gets big winter storms that do cause a mud season not as much from snowmelt but from volume of rain. Campgrounds and trails close in norcal in the winter for this reason

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Should I eat it
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>>2862942
thats toilet paper, i had a neighbor mulch a mullan for fun one year and it grew 9ft tall
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>>2862953
What order tho?
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I smoked cbd cigarettes with this in it and i was coughing up all my mucus. Clears them out good and I was like Kirby afterwards
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>>2862965
My brother in christ this is one of life's little lessons one must learn on there own. Good luck to ya champ!
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>>2862953
Ass first, it’ll dry while you smoke it


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