I usually don't bother with boots because they're tedious to put on and I don't roll my ankle in trail runners etc. That said, are cowboy boots ok for /out/? I'm guessing it's blistertown, but at least they must be fast and easy to wear?
>>2874919they are best if you are going to be in and out of a vehicle/bike/horse/etc and don't need super deep treadflat leather is unironically pretty grippy on most surfaces honestly, just not great for mud which is a good chunk of hiking terrainI personally prefer cowboy boots on gravel and soil, something about the flat sole keeps me from slipping around as the tread settles in other hiking shoes. Sand is hell though, I would derive great pleasure from forcing people to walk across a beach in cowboy boots because they are just that horrible>>2877761People who wear tight boots are larpers, cowboy boots are supposed to be easier to slip in and out of, like a slipper with an upper. If the upper is hugging your leg, you're simply a fatty, simple as.Anyone interested in cowboy boots should get a pair, they're cheap and decent enough for most regular wear to justify having at least a pair around the house. $200 will get you something decent to slip in for a quick jaunt through the woods for a couple hours, just takes a a couple weeks of regular wear to break them in.
>>2874953A lot of what you find today are more like "cowboy style" work boots with a wider toe and flatter stance than an actual riding boot would have, they're popular in the oilfield and similar jobs. I'm not sure I'd want to do serious hiking with constant rough ground or elevation changes in them though
I got a pair of ropers, I think (Red Wing 1155) because I like going to places where country music is played and beer is drunk, and I wanted something to slip on. Used them this summer, walking not more than 15000 steps per day in a city, so hard surfaces.I really liked the last, as it was wide enough for my Frankenfeet. But the looseness around my ankles felt weird. The boots fit well enough, but the shaft was loose. The fit on my feet felt like wearing loafers, but the shaft felt more like carrying dead weight since it's loose. Don't really get that with my regular lace-up boots. Seems to me like you could roll your ankles perfectly well in them. Twice as heavy as my leather shell boots too. Haven't tried the sole enough outdoors to mean much about it, but it seems alright.But they do have attitude in spades, and they're great for slipping on as a summer boot.I wouldn't wear them for walking in difficult terrain, but I could see it working on trails or leisurely strolls.
>>2877747>They're not great for hiking cause you can't adjust how tightly they fit around your foot like you can with boots with laces.Good quality boots, properly broken in, don't need it, and in fact that's what makes them so good, they end up fitting your whole foot like they're custom made instead of relying on tightness in one specific area like laced shoes. I actually started wearing them because of a suggestion on /out/ after I mentioned instep pain and heel blister problems and now they're all I wear unless I'm wearing shorts or really need the tread and waterproofing of a hiking boot.
>>2875438>they are made for walkingupto guys buttshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Yux4niiO4
When it comes to accessing wilderness, do you get a permit in areas that require it? Are you a permit cuck?
>>2872957Didn't leafs even require a permit to set snares and only government sanctioned snares are permissible? Like no dispatcher, spring lock and all that?
>>2872764Though I am an Amerishart, I wander freely as I please without permits, dealing with rangers and landowners with a convincing impression of ignorance and a serial-filed gun
Ive talked to rangers several times on hikes and mainly have been asked where im planning on camping, if i have a bear cannister, etc. but i’ve only been asked to show my backcountry permit once. I’ve even considered photoshopping my past permit since it seems like they dont really check the actual document too thoroughly. I backpack mainly in the eastern sierras for reference.
>>2873053you can hunt freely on most crown land
>>2872881it's not false, but the anon you responded to deflected from the question like an idiot.
Changing jobs. I have a few options to choose from. How would you rank /out/ potential in the following places:IowaIndianaOregonSacramentoWisconsinMinnesota
>>2877315>IowaShit.>IndianaVery mediocre.>OregonExcellent.>SacramentoCities are gay.>Wisconsin>MinnesotaBoth okay, if you like cold.
>>2877333White people were a minority in Sacramento 30 years ago. But even then atleast it was groups of hispanics and groups of Vietnamese and groups on negros...Now its the epitome of the mutt memes with random mystery meat behind every door.
>>2877315Indiana has great fishing and boating but very boring forests and it's all flat except the part right across the river from Kentucky.
>>2877655I like southern indiana and I want to go back
>>2877315how do you feel about water? And there is substantial variation within some of the states listed. Without that contextOregonSacramentogapWisconsinMinnesotagapIndianaIowa
it feels pretty fucking lame to pay 20$ for a couple of grams of permethrin emulsified in water.the chinese will sell me a big ass bag of technical grade permethrin for almost nothing, but going that route means i'll have to find some sort of emulsifier and surfactant, and probably some sort hydrocarbon solvent. people bitch about using 10% ag grade permethrin concentrates, because they stink like gas and leave an oily film on your gear. i'm blown away that i can't seem to find people making their own permethrin soak """from scratch""". it's always just diluting a concentrate.so i'm wondering what you do to treat your clothes to see whether or not i actually want to go down this rabbithole to "save" maybe 50$ a year on permethrin treatment.
>>2877648Ignore the retarded bot bubbas, I am interested in this too.
>>2877648btfod by tweezers
You can find the dilution rate for spray application of permethrin on clothing. It's normally in the pesticides area of most farm stores/homedepots.Just buy a small hand pump sprayer and a measuring cup and mix as much as you need for pennies.You can also find the right mixing dosage for spraying around your house/property to kill any ticks during the heavy periods. Just beware of its deadly affect on cats before it dries.
>>2877648Horse "fly sprays" are a lot cheaper than the camping crap and usually about the same %. You gotta find a farm or equestrian supply store though.
>>2877651unironically nylon is incredibly easy to make if you have the equipment
>friend comes over to do my backyard for money>he stays the night>he downloads Last of Us II>get to the part in the beginning where they enter the weed room>im inspiredAs soon as I have a big shed, a basement, or a garage to myself, I am growing massive amounts of drugs. Weed, salvia, datura, shrooms. And everything in between.
>>2878412>Still so buttmad he got rekt he tries moving goalpostsjust take the L and move on with your life
>>2878416Maybe youre just so weak youd become some kind of weed addict that would require a rehab facility if you tried it. You shouldnt assume everyones a pussy like you though
>>2878431>He's still crying
>>2878433Blaze it faggot
>>2878467I only smoke home grown, all natty, 10-20%, not that Jewish GMO herb that's turning you all gay and retarded
>shluuuurp>leaves bullseye to mark domain>nothing personal kid
>>2875327>but if you're doing a multi-nighter you're wearing layers and sleeping innawoods and dealing with all kinds of terrain and that's when you get ticks up your dickholeis that a real problem?i once had a tick bite my dick when i was a kid.
ive had 100 ticks collect between my back and backpack but never had one actually bite meits like ants nest when you drop your pack and are about to sit on it for little rest not gonna lie i strip and beat the hell out of my shirt and that pack every time because it still feels wrong to carry them with me
>>2876227Not a fan of leeches either. Anything that sucks blood loves me for some reason. Went swimming in a lake in the forest in mazury, Poland with 9 other people. I was covered in leeches when I got out. Nobody else was. I swear I'm cursed.
>>2878432during a hot day i took a dip in a swamp and while i did not die in there and had to clean myself after with my cooking pot i still wake up from a nightmare few times every year rising from that water completely covered in leeches
>>2878375that is incredibly sadcompletely robbed of life and doomed to suffer for a bite from a shitty bug
any recs for a hat with brim ideally somewhere between a bucket hat and a cowboy hatlooking for sun protection from all angles (not baseball cap), but can be put in a bag easily (so not leather/straw)
>>2872177>>2872184Tilley T3 is a great hat. On my second. First one lasted 10+ abusive years of almost daily use.
Mesh top hats are the best for high sweat. They're ultra breathable. I would only use a leather hat in the winter.
>>2875459No pooftas
>>2872465Can confirm; I also have a pith helmet.People WILL look at you funny, but it's genuinely a great hat for hot environments. The British weren't wearing these things in Africa and India just for memes.
I've got this one I bought recently in Ukraine because the sun was burning my head. It's a Fjall Raven. Has a chin strap and is comfy. Cost me about £50 though. Hiking gear is fucking expensive there.
Every single axe I have ever used that looks like picrel has the head start coming loose after only a few weeks. Every single time. It's retarded that I can't buy a wood handled axe that is made correctly out of the box. Even with premium brands like Gransfors, while the heads may not come loose, they are hung crooked half the time, and there's no store where you can pick out a straight one in person. I don't have time for these shop projects to fix these issues myself, an axe should just be fucking made right.
>>2878017>hewingthis bench unironically retains the twist from splittingand you gave it a few cuts along the surfacedo you really have this little endurance or patience?
>>2874063Eh sorry for double posting>>2874063>Here you go.>>2871329>I wasn’t aware that anyone was still producing broad axes, or any axe that could be used for hewing.I bought most of my new carpentry style axes here: https://mueller-hammerwerk.at/produkt-kategorie/zimmermannswerkzeug/And I am pleased. with the quality. IMO it exceeds that of all the vintage hewing axes I own, which is to be expected, but some don't want to hear that.
>>2878300Where's yours?
>>2878288Yeah but youll be a gay boy with a plastic axe
>>2878301I like that they made it in the style of those large medieval side axes. I was expecting something much more half assed.
Looking for /out/ book discussion and recs. I just started Sand County Almanac, and recently finished pic related. American books preferred, but everything welcome.
>>2872862I remember her. She claimed to be native. She's like 1/64th or something.i mapped her family tree out of curiosity. Anyway typical white person with native aspirations more or less. Don't know why it's such a big thing with boomers claiming native ancestry. I'm half Vietnamese and probably technically closer genetically since we both originate from hoabinhians
>>2878162Oh books though... I recommend an island to oneself and tales of an American hobo. Both can be found in pdf format somewheres
>>2872862Much more realistic /out/ing for most people on this board
>>2874029Why would he scare us he's completely unlikeable
>>2872862This small volume encapsulates the wandering traditions found throughout asia and beyond with an emphasis on travel by foot obviously and the perspective that. Brings
How dangerous is solo backpacking? I live close to Appalachia and any time I talk to someone about going on a solo trip people talk schitzo-tier about how I'm going to die, disappear, or worse.Not even because of the nature specifically, but because of le paranormal, inbred mountain people, cannibals, accidentally stumbling upon illegal operations in the mountains (heard this one specifically a lot), etc. You get it, the list goes on.Anyways, is there any truth to the danger or is it just the average small-town tall tales and superstitions? Seems unlikely to me as I feel like if it was so dangerous you'd be seeing a lot more of it in the news.
>Are you a man with reasonable athleticism, the ability to plan ahead and make reasonable decisions for what is within your ability and to respect unsafe weather?Not dangerous at all.>Are you a small woman but otherwise reasonable in all respects?Not very dangerous, although mountain lions occasionally attack small children and women. Nonzero chance of a dangerous "man.">Are you an idiot who makes bad decsions such as inadequate water, supplies or clothing, unrealistic fitness goals for speed and distance and disregard for dangerous weather?Might be dangerous.Overall very safe.
>>2876987You desperately need to go outside. Your mythology isn't even correct.
>>2877532>Saar! You kindly must be going outside. What in the hell! Your mythology is not even correct!
>>2872583I always think... What are the chances two crazy people bumb on each other on the woods? Broh you probably the kind of person other people would be scared of encountering in the wild
>>2878384one evening i walked to one of those state funded campfire sites because i figured nobody would be there and i cound rinse myself off in the lake while making dinner and then go find some place to camp for the nightsome 13 year old kid appeared asking me if he could come sit by the fire, apparently he drove there 10km with his moped many times every week just to be alone and thinki was on my 5th day walking at that point but unshaven and dirty i looked like i was going 2 months already so drinking heavily i told the little guy all these tall stories about my adventures in the wilderness and he thought it was the coolest shit ever even when i looked like a crazy personi hope he hasnt gotten himself killed /out/ there and managed to find some friends
I posted this thread on the travel board, but I thought maybe you guys would be able to give me some advice too...So this is gonna sound really stupid and crazy, but I'm so fucking miserable and I just hate my life and I'm so bored all the time just tired of everything. And I'm out of shape, and I'm really stupid and worthless. I can't take care of myself. I'm addicted to self destruction and I want to change so bad. I want to do something really dramatic, something that will shock my whole nervous system into survival mode so I can find God and become the Man I know I can be.Sorry this is really melodramatic and unhinged, I'm kinda cringe. But I want to walk.. like from my house all the way to Alaska. I just want to walk there. I'm broke, I have no car and very little money. But I figure I could just walk there, and start a new life.I know it would be hard. I have about $3000 in savings and I would probably need that mostly for food and stuff along the way. I might have to figure out news ways of making money on the way. I'd need to figure out all kinds of things.What I'm most worried about is freezing to death in my sleep and encountering territorial wild animals somewhere. Besides that I also worry about being robbed or murdered by other humans.This is sort of a radical question, so I'd appreciate any and all opinions / advice / suggestions things I should learn / read / buy before I go. Or on the way. I know this is probably stupid but please try to keep an open mind..
>>2878331The “jay’s” have already buckbroke him. He literally can’t stop consuming goyslop, energy drinks, alcohol, cuck porn, vapes and Reddit. He can’t hold a job, finish a degree, talk to a female, respond to his own post, read a book, stop sticking things in his ass in order to cum the hardest and fastest. He has become the ULTIMATE GOYLORD.
>>2877741>I'm kinda cringeThat's hard to miss.
>>2877745The based maladaptive daydreaming poster has been summoned.
>>2877741walk to taco bell and back, you're just going to taco bell in alaska or whatever
>>2877741Buy an airplane ticket, go there, get a job with out actions like, fishing, woodcutting, airtaxi... Buy yourself a little house-cabin, go hunting fishing... The only reason I would go for Alaska is the Salmon and the hunting, I doubt there are good universities hiring history teachers there...
wife and I have very little experience /out/ing. Done some light mountain hiking once in new mexico and modest traveling in thailand but thats about it. We're gonna try some primitive camping at a nearby state park. Any tips? Our plan is to hike around the park during the day and find a good spot to build a camp, set up a lien-to and build a fire pit. Any other fun beginner primitive camping accomplishments we can try? I suck at fishing but I'm gonna try and catch-and-cook at the parks lake.
>>2878213>I've built a scenario out of rules I made up in my head and now I'm upset others won't obey themmassive 'lacking a working theory of mind' energy
>>2878213Lol ignore the autists Just dont burn the forest down
>>2878213>fashioning some sticks to hold up a tarpBecause you're going to be be destroying shrubs etc to clear a space to put up your tarp.>and throwing some logs in a fire ring is problematic.Fire destroys organic matter that should be left in the ecosystem. This isn't rocket appliances
>>2878213Ignore him>>2878286What a faggot.Enjoying a camp fire is a core /out/ and something one should do whenever you have the opportunity
>>2878286Burning dead wood is good for the undergrowth
Where did I take this picture today, are you able to get the exact location? It shouldnt be to hard. Post orginal pictures of your recent outings that you took and if you did not go on any recent outings, think about why you keep making excuses instead of just going out even if only for a couple of hours on a small hike.When coming back to this board it feels like 80% is just larpers. There are almost no original pictures taken anymore and 50% is gear threads. lets try to change that and post real pictures that you took.
local folklore
>>2871005It's the middle of August, and everything out is as dry as a camel's pu**y. We have warm summer days, and the nights are comfy, too. I love wandering old farm roads and relaxing in meadows with beautiful views. Sunsets feel like honey on the lips. It's as if the sun is saying, "See you tomorrow," to assure you that you'll see the sun the next day. A hope.The world is beautiful. I have a place to sleep, plenty of food, and some money. I have a few friends and have been with four women in my life. But I don't want to be here. This isn't for me.Sometimes, after years of growing, the tree completely dries out. People say it's still a tree, but in reality, it's no longer there. It's just another star in the night sky.
>>2878161the locals here said it has rained every day this summerlast summer was dry, too, I prefer it this way, roads are a bit muddy, esp. the dirt ones wvfacing north into the highest highlands
Kayaking trip with some out of town friends. Favorite kayaking spot near my house.
I went on a hike last week with some friends and holy fuck, never again. The whole thing became a photoshoot, non stop picture taking, I've never been so uncomfortable during a hike.
>>2875316Yeah, it's either nobody actually fucking walk, or you're with some faggot that think this is a race. It's so much better to enjoy things at the actual rythm that you like best.
>>2875316I have one friend who i like to go hiking with. We both bring our dogs and it's nice. Although I enjoy hiking by myself just as much because I actually enjoy the nature as opposed to talking most of the time. When I'm by myself (with my dog) i literally just walk at a snail's pace and just try to take in the serenity of the nature. I find when I walk really slowly and quietly I don't scare away birds and other animals away too.
>>2877430More outdoors than you if you still need a safety blanket tent. What are you scared of?
>>2875316Have you tried discussing designated photo places/times like adults?>Wife has 10k followers, not an influencer just good at taking photos>We go hiking to a place with ruined colonial homestead and cemetery>About two miles back over hilly terrain so not a lot of people>Agree to three spots to stop and taking pictures, and three random stops when she thinks a place is photogenic>Both of us have a wonderful time.
When I go hiking with new people, I always go to a easy stole of a hike to sus them out, before dragging them up a real mountain. This way I know if they can handle a real walk or if they are just there for the nature. Nothing wrong with being there for nature, mind, but I want to know beforehand.
Wake up, /out/, a new:>permanently reduces your lifespan by a few months, because of extreme fear & strees>haha, it‘s just a prank, relax dudejust droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cViQfpgHTG4When the fuck will this end? This is is not funny & I should be allowed to defend myself, if you corner me, while wearing a realistic monster cosplay like that.
>>2878077That's a rothschild party.
Ai scum thread
scripted
>>2878169that son, is handmade practical faggotry.
>>2878077this is what the normie side of youtube is like huh
