Imagine being so cucked by the government that you actually try to win a fucking lottery to be allowed to go innawoods and only camp in designated spots lmaaaoo

>>2869046
Such is life in a low trust society. What are you going to do, let the boondockers overstay their welcome and cover random sites in litter with no way to catch them?
The reservation system make it possible to kick the undesirables out.

>>2869116
I love it when newfags wander into threads they have no idea what is being discussed and then offer their opinion like it fucking matters. There are no boondockers in the backcountry. Also OP is just a troll who has like you never touched grass but he knows the lingo.

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>>2869046
Permits and designates sites are necessities for heavily-trafficked areas. You’d know that if you’ve ever been to a national forest or wilderness area that has a lot of visitors.
>backcountry in quotes
Yes, as opposed to frontcountry. These are well established terms that were familiar with but confuse and anger you. Also note that “car camping” does not mean sleeping in your car (/out/ hates that fact and insists otherwise). Pic is from NPS.gov

I just got back from a portaging trip. It was 40 Canadian rubles for a 3 day 2 person trip. For that we got sites with guaranteed room for tents, a fire pit and a picnic table. They actually came around and checked permits so ensure no squatters which is nice. They also provide maps and info about the park. Worth the price of admission. Why are you going to a maintained park and complaining about fees if what you want is the middle of fucking nowhere?

>>2868840
>ywn have sweaty hiker tomboy girlfriend who goes days without showering or wearing deodorant or clean clothes and also keeps eating beans to give her the nastiest BRAPS

>>2868742
>how does she make money.

In app sponsers, direct pay, ad sense, etc etc. C'mon dude, don't play dumb.
But like anon said these people don't count. They're essentially corpo-bought plants put right into your hobby to distract you. Because once the canera is off, that dumb bimbo is no longer interested in /out/.

>>2868439
complaining

>>2868601
This. My current gf is more or less a tomboy, its femine, but has mostly manly hobbys. Played rugby for 5 or 6 years, was into scouting (girls allowed in my country), and now we go mountaineering together. We push ourselfs more than I espected at first, and now we are going full alpinism mode, we rock climb, and we are planning our seventh trip, were we are going to be in movemment for 14h, starting at 4:30/5:00 AM, to reach the second tallest peak in the Pyrinees.

>>2868607
No complainings like some on this thread are describing. You just need to meet the right girl, and for that, you must move in the right circles of people. There are plenty like my gf, you just need to look for them. You just wont find them in tinder

>>2869020
>once the camera is off she abandons the thruhike
Please explain how someone can fake a thruhike and be semi-famous among hikers yet not get called out.

>>2867625
>I would advise finding inexpensive, almost "cheaper" options and getting experience with them so you know what you actually need versus think you need
yup, this is pretty much the way to go. OP needs to take a few long weekends bringing whatever he already has, seeing what was annoying or could be improved, and going from there. a recent example from my own experience is carrying water. until the mail came today, i had 2L smart water bottles in my main backpack compartment, which was incredibly annoying to drink, and took up valuable space. the chicken tramper strap bottle sleeves were finally in stock, so i bought 2 of them. i also upgraded my liquor flask from a boxy plastic one to a $2 leakproof plastic bag one, skipping the titanium flask meme. i would say to do very careful research and buy the best sleep and shelter system once.

another important consideration is buying shit you'd actually use IRL. if everything fits in a 40L backpack, buy a 40L one so you can carry it on airplanes and skip (((checked luggage))). my sling bag costs $65 but i use it all the time, and i can take my toiletries bag more or less as-is on any trip. clothing storage pillow for clothes, small roll-top compression sack for down jacket, little niceties like cork ball for muscle massage, etc.

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>>2867579
I wouldn’t buy any of that stuff from Hyperlite even if I was a millionaire, there are better options.
You don’t need an xtherm for summer in Colorado, the normal insulated NeoAir is plenty warm enough, but there are many other pad options that may be more comfortable.
Check out garagegrowngear dot com if you want better UL options instead of hyperlite.
For the tent, I would get pic related if you can grab one when it launches

>>2867579
I paid less for my -20F Thermarest polar ranger then you are paying for that +20F quilt.

Bad back?

Although they add weight, trekking poles and camp/break chair may be worthwhile.

Bad back here.

Forget the money. If you have a bad back, even ultralight isn't going to save you. You have to learn to pack more efficiently to distribute the weight better. Obviously heavier things have more impact on joints and the back but the weight adds up quickly enough to have an effect even when very light. The money you're spending isn't relevant. I think that tent is a meme and that bag is fine but you can probably find something better for cheaper. None of that shit will change having back problems from lugging stuff for many miles.

>>2868921
Yes, I autistically try to navigate as little as possible with gps.
A quick search suggests 3/4 of people think they can. That's frankly an absurd number.
Yes, always bring a compass.

>>2868923
You're way, way overestimating that. Even amongst my sailing friends >>2868924 is the standard and that's people that should know.

You're "skilled" at compass and map navigation if you can sustain 2° or less at night over land.

I raced offshore yachts and served as navigator on Maxis when I was seventeen. Loran C was a backup to traditional techniques and we didn't have gps. Today, I backpack long distances using map and compass, and I own no gps.

All /out/ should own a Suunto MC 2 global needle, or a baseboard second-best, with clear base and learn to use it. The batteries never fail.

- gramps

>>2869083
I don't think that most people even know that magnetic declination is a think so they just assume that all they have to know is that the compass points north

I can read different kinds of compasses and apply them to maps. I know the stars in my part of the world by month and can navigate with them. etc. As others have said, the number of people who think they can is obscenely high compared to those who actually can, which is percentage wise probably in the very low teens.

>>2868921
I can read one, but I can't triangulate anything even with a map. Never learned how.

>>2868065
Nobody cares how it looks, you don't go to a fashion show. The only thing that matter is the usefulness.

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i have this one and love it. it's by far the most used ultralight soft good i own, though my tufa rock climbing chalk bag and my ultralitesacks trail wallet are strong contenders for #2 and #3. i think it's a good idea to have a small collection of really high quality bags; i just repurposed a large ditty bag out from storing spare things, to being a dedicated container for climbing shoes

https://www.garagegrowngear.com/collections/napacks/products/ultralight-sling-bag-by-napacks

These are all gay and you guys look like fags.

>>2866947
>its based
You can't just call your own bag based. It needs to come from some other Anon.
But you're correct. It's based.

They seem worse than a regular backpack in every respect. The only use case I see is if you need to frequently rotate your bag in the front to access its content.

>>2868440
When I was a youngster, I would kayak and fish on family vacations. My parents are not /out/ people, so that was the only time I'd ever do those things. I'm now a huge fisherman and sell fishing gear for (not much of a) living. I got a kayak last year, and I highly recommend getting a trailer if it's a fishing kayak, since hauling them by yourself is a pain. It deterred me from kayaking. When I did go kayaking, I was too tired and overwhelmed to do any meaningful fishing most of the time. Thus, I just paddled around, and I really enjoyed that. If I ever got a motorized boat, you'd never see me joy riding in it. For me, boats are a tool to fish. Except for kayaks. Kayaks (and maybe canoes) don't have to be a means to an end. They are fun just by themselves.
Fishing does not have to be a money pit. Since you're on salt, you will want to get some salt-grade fishing gear, but it doesn't have to be expensive. Like another anon said, you can get into the sport for $100. I would suggest getting a paddle if you don't already have one.

>>2868440
>unlike hiking I can't really bring all that much with me.
Just tie a pack to the front or back of the boat. You should be able to carry more not less

>>2868440
I have this exact kayak and fish from it. you can get a simple rod and reel for like $60. just buy some shrimp, throw some circle hooks on a leader, and you're good to go.

>>2868440
If you don't enjoy being cooked alive by the sun like a rational person, I'd get one of those cheap polyester UV hoodies, a pair of polarized sunglasses and a wide brimmed hat. If you're in swim trunks lather on your knees and shins some 60 spf sunscreen or get a pair of polyester leg sleeves. I also keep my socks on to protect my feet from burning.

>>2868440
If they're larger than your pic you can carry significantly more than hiking. I have no experience with pedal kayaks, just regular paddle ones and taking them on multi-day camping trips where you move from spot to spot to overnight is a lot of fun. And like this >>2868990 anon said, get yourself a hat and wear long sleeves.
What rough area are you based in?

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>>2869067
>his car doesn't have exhaust routed directly into cabin

>>2869067
Logfags have ruined this site.

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>>2868531
circling back to the media bottle pantry. i spent some time using my experience, and some AI to rubberduck my assumptions, refining it. i'd previously been lazy about selecting various bottles for things. i also ruled out lots of stuff like worcestershire sauce, tamari, balsamic vinegar, liquid aminos, sesame oil, nutritional yeast, miso, paprika spice mix, the coghlan's spice rack thing, etc., but notably *not* an egg suitcase. here's the final tally with the types of containers and their sizes for a 3-7 day trip. it's ultralight inspired, but i care more about eating well than minimizing weight. it's my template so if you wanna substitute lemon juice with crystals, or furikake with salt + pepper, go for it.

>fat
- olive oil in a 2 oz LDPE dropper, for supplementing meals and frying things
- ghee in a 2 oz PP jar, for crackers / bread + cheese + sausage

>umami
- furikake in a 1 oz HDPE bottle, for general seasoning
- better than bouillon in a 1 oz PP jar, for drinking at a campfire (i'd previously brought cubes)

>acid + heat
- lemon juice in a 1 oz LDPE dropper, for semi-raw fish packets
- tabasco sauce in a 1 oz LDPE dropper, for boiled eggs and everything else


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do you bring a multitool for hikes?

>>2863172
>A lot of people also sleep better in hammocks than their own bed.
That is 100% not me which is why i ultimately prefer tents

>>2866812
>9mm

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>>2868107
>Screw-together chopsticks.
This. You can use them for everything.
I posted this setup a while ago. You can fit some spices, tea, coffee and small trash bags into the pot as well. Works great for a weekend or so.

>>2867811
based, bump

>>2868768
in terms of invasives, it's not the worst. i have a small patch of it that i've avoided killing so far precisely because it tastes good. my focus last year was on killing the serious shit like chinese wisteria, japanese knotweed, burning bush, and multiflora rose and japanese barberry cuz i have a strict "no thorns or vines" policy. also, ground ivy (and the wild violets on my lawn took over for the most part)

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>>2867820
>>2867821
Fucking lel

Also
>>2867811
>Everyone I know says it's gross to eat things that grow in the woods
That just means everyone is retarded. Keep going, friend!

>>2867811
Any good foraging books you would recommend, or would that probably be highly regional?

Garlic mustard smells like it tastes delicious but I wouldn't want to make pesto out of it. What else can I do with it? Mince it and put it on steak? What else?

>>2869049
Use it wherever you would put fresh herbs? You can't cook it or it loses all it's flavor

>>2866511
I feel your frustration, it feels like the whole world is gatekeeping the secret to acquiring a metal bar to me.
I recently díd get the hang of sharpening the basic scandi-grind bullshit. I know it's not the "best" edge but having a straight blade with a straight-tapering edge all the way down really helps when you sharpen in the field.

>>2866493

DESU it's more than just "1095 is outdated" -- 1095 is NOT FOOD-SAFE, nor is any other carbon steel.

but more than that

K390, N690, S110V and VG-10 are ESPECIALLY UNSAFE due to containing Cobalt!

https://www.jayfisher.com/Food_Safety_Kitchen_Chefs_Knives.htm

>>2869009
>Plebbit spacing
>Muh food safe
>Website from the 90s

People have used carbon steel for ages. Of all the chemicals toxins like teflon and plastics crap and processed "food" found in a kitchen, a knife has to be the least of your worries.

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>>2866511
I have a worksharp MK2. Two belts, 5 passes per belt per side, through an angle guide and you have sharpened knives. I love this thing, one of the best investments I've ever made. I sharpen all of my knives and all of my family and friends knives.

>>2866310
the price doesnt matter to us non niggers.
the equal today is around 100-150€ with engraving.
so actually kinda cheap when you think about it.

>>2868847
>>I'm going to continue talking about shit I don't understand while accusing other people of not having a brain
that's you
>if only you weren't too stupid to know what "irony" is.
oh it's incredibly ironic, including you now trying to shift the blame over the idiotic climate alarmism on the oil companies

>>2867414
>>2864832
NTA but kinda looks like it yeah

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I found out that a 500 thousand pound concentration camp oven with wings on it

weighs the same as,

one-hundred,

5000 pound concentration camp ovens with wheels on them.

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>>2857989
>opinion discarded

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>>2857989
>made billions
doingit,,,forfree.

>>2868930
You’re way wrong. I’ll drink a big cup of coffee fill up my water bottle and a ziploc of toilet paper and immediately hit the trail first thing in the morn. taking a full squat bowel clearing dump in the woods is the best shit you can possibly take you feel so empty and light afterwards. Man wasn’t meant to sit on a toilet.

>>2868934
Why talk about what man was meant for when its only modern comforts that enable this anachronistic view?

Try it without the coffee, the toilet paper, the ziploc, the water bottle, the car, and the showers. Then tell me thats what man was "meant for".

>>2868937
That is what man was meant for and he found a way. As would I. I’ve used rocks and sticks before out of necessity and would or will again. Still prefer that to a toilet. Let me put it like this, I routinely grab a bag or paper plate or something walk out my back door and shit onto or into that and dispose of it because it’s that much better than using a toilet. I’ve been to jail and shit infront of other men shit beside them on those old Roman style open toilets too. They do have those squat toilets in Asian countries which are neat, I could get on board with that. It’s not about just shitting and it’s not about me it’s about limp wrist sissys too mindbroken domestic and and removed from nature to do what’s natural.

>>2868423
I hope a snake bites your balls while you're at it.

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I have UC, so I can't always decide when (and therefore where) to shit. I carry a shitting kit when I'm /out/.

Before I knew of my condition, I once had to evacuate a steaming, stinking pile of light-brown, smeary shit behind a tree stump with my young daughter nearby. I carried no TP with me and had to clean my ass with forest soil consisting of dirt, pine needles and ants. I built my shitting kit on that very evening.

>>2868435
his name? Quebec Canada.

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Getting ready to go down the river Memorial day weekend! 3 day raft trip with about a dozen friends. Rolled these yesterday. Sour diesel flower slicked with cherry pie wax.

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>>2868864
>my man
But like the way Denzel says it.

>>2868864
why do you smoke joint paper when hemp blunt wraps burn so much slower?

>>2868926
Because I like the flavor of my weed and wax and don't need to cover it. My joints burn just as long as a blunt if I roll them big enough. But I like this size. I also have access to pounds of weed, so I'm not overly concerned with "wasting" weed.

>>2868826
Glacier bears are a scarier breed than polarbears by far

>>2868156
I thought women loves them over men?

>>2868786
>>2868826
>>2868828
Not a lot of people know about glacier bears. The government likes to keep their existence on the down low because if the word got out too much then it could seriously damage tourism in the west. Those fuckers are scary intelligent and can and will hunt and eat humans. I've heard of them downing trees to block and trap people driving down back roads in the country. They peel the car doors right off and drag the passengers out. Scary stuff.

>>2868187
I just would push over some fat american and run away

>>2868173
AOC would choose the bear though
>>2868707
How many men have killed somebody in Glacier National Park in that time? And remember that you're 10,000 more likely to see a man than a bear there, so unless men killed >10,000 people in GNP since the 90s then it looks like feminists just suck at risk assessment

>>2866181
Nigga u just go outside and ride a bicycle
Like wtf?

>>2866181
just go and do it. its easy in germany. plenty of good spots to stop and sleep and theres rad- und wanderwege everywhere. dont even need to use a map for many routes, just follow the signs. wild camping isn't "highly illegal", I never had problems with it and I like to make fires for cooking. you shouldn't expect more than some karen with a dog complaining. in that case you pack up and move on.
the law also says "zelten" is verboten. so if you have a hammock or a bivouac, you are not using a tent and its completly legal. if you look presentable and ask nicely, you can find someone allowing you to setup in their garden and probably get a invite for dinner, but you can make also make the whole way without talking to anybody, if youre too much of an autist. Ive done weeks with spending zero money, stoping at supermarkets for dumpster diving and wild camping at amazing spots.
if your route allows it, follow a river valley. its mostly flat and you'll make a lot more distance each day.
700km should take you no more than 10 days, even if youre completely out of shape.

>>2866475
zoomers can't comprehend spending any amount of time outside and away from their screens.

>>2866181
oof wish you didn't say dumb shit like c*ding

>>2867319
100% agreed. This lad knows what he's talking about.
I'm not entirely sure about the technicality considreing tents vs. hammocks, but even a close family member (a cop) told me about it and a friend's dad once successfully got around a fine by not setting up his whole tent and just "resting" instead of "sleeping".

>>2866181
>Second problem is: I always pack way too much and I sweat a lot, which is uncomfortable. What do?
One more practical suggestion: You just have to start and see what works for you.
Do the 700km trip to your friends. It'll take you two weeks max. That'll help you to find out what you absolutely don't need and what's missing.
Your setup won't be 100% perfect after that, but when you're just starting, that'll go a long way.
>t. cycled 25,000+ kilometers around Europe and Asia