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>>2843835
https://boards
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>>2843774
This
Plus the “Reddit bad” people can never explain why they hate it outside of a political context.
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>>2843783
Honestly its because of the alex honnel fag and his interviews were he endlessly goes on about how cool he is for climbing without a rope. So when someone dies climbing seem lying without a rope people celebrate the inevitable
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>>2843850
reddit is bad because it has accounts so every opinion you have ever posted on the site effects how people receive and interpret the value of future opinions posted to the site.
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>>2843850
1. Reddit is low effort.
2. Directly related to the first point, and to expand on what >>2843855 said, reddit's voting system deliberately prevents varied opinions and instead encouraged bias. The reddit admins have actually tried to improve upon this by hiding the count of upvotes and downvotes, but the voting system itself is the issue.
This is especially a problem with the spread of misinformation. Reddit comments tend to culture misinformation, because you can simply downvote, and bury, a factual comment. None of that is political, it's just a fact of reddit.

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Do you like via ferratas?
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>>2841476
youre just embarrassed because you didn't notice
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>>2841476
Why do you know how a redditor types...?
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>>2840402
>>2840646
He's right, even if abrasive.
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>>2840290
And getting caught in the rain?
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the last shiey video he goes on one with a couple buddies. I live in NA so never had the chance but it looks like it would be a chill time

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Where are all the mushrooms edition?
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I never go outside
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>>2842563
yes, his vlogs are all up on YT
He was on Fishtank and hiked through Cali recently.
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tourist here, is foraging popular on /out/? are there ever any generals?
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Bought garmin epix pro gen 2 with sapphire screen. Has gimmicks like a torch and a red light screen. 469.99 instead of 829.99. Pretty good purchase imo.
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>>2842943
They're based. A lot of personality in a small handsome package. I don't have many around me, just crows and magpies who steal my cats food. They sit on the trees at 5pm watching me feed the cats.

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In Russia people build these small cabins in the woods without any permits. It's not really illegal but it's not legal also but the forest service don't really mind even though they have all rights to destroy them. It's kind of a grey area when it comes to law about them. And people use fallen trees to make logs for it( can't cut wood in Russia without permission). It's not a private property and anyone can stay in them when they want or need to spend the night of they are too tired to get home. They have wood burning stoves and can be a real life saver when it's cold, you can find some dry food and firewood inside left from the previous visitor and they expect you to do the same if possible for the next guy that comes there. Nothing fancy and not all of them are in their best shape but it's much better than a tent. Not sure about other countries but it's a big NO NO in the west. Also most of them are miles deep into the woods so the local bums can't get there easily and make a mess. Just thought I'd share it.

Some video of some Russian guy doing this .

https://youtu.be/k4ZiakYLKgA?si=MAuBEVju5c4JNIZ5
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Here is a video of some guy building it.
https://youtu.be/zcF-NvNWehg?si=IscGLYCTwZFk5Rpl
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In America the rangers here would have a field day ripping these down and Encon would have you prosecuted for all kinds of environmental laws. Jealous of our “freedom”?
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>>2843708
Yeah it's kinda crappy over here with all the laws and strict rules. It's not like you want to build a house on someone's property or government property. We are talking a basic shelter that's not even occupied most of the time here.
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>>2843708
>>2843726
meanwhile, megacorporations are allowed to destroy everything for profit
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>>2843688
where I live in canada, its generally not possible to construct a new structure. But there are many still existing camps that are legal and run on a similar system. I think in reality what makes these not work is modern societies general greed as if you were to publicly post the locations of the ones where I am they would be destroyed in short order so its a its you know you know thing.

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Hi /out/, first time poster, never even been on this board. I'm writing a short horror story about a man traveling alone on the Great Divide mountain bike route (backwards, starting from New Mexico and ending in Alberta) and have absolutely zero experience in anything mountain biking related. I'm looking for the basics on what any rider should know, maybe some tips on maintenance, or what gear he'd be wearing. Really anything that comes to mind. picrel is a little "cover' I made for it. The "monster" of the story is a mountain lion.
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>>2841610
I got old somehow and backpacking is too hard on the joints these days. I like cycling because it's low impact.
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I don't know all the differences between bikes... am I retarded for buying a mountain bike just for travelling to the next town over every now and then? There are a few trails I might try but it'd mostly be next town over trips. UK roads too so the roads are potholes everywhere which I guess is another point in a mountain bike's favour over a road bike.
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>>2841585
you need to know how to service every aspect of your bike, replace tubes, patch tubes, and pump; cary spare chain and chain tools. Carry some type of bear spary (larger and shoots further than pepper spray) can be used on all kinds of animals including dirtly hippies/bums if needed. Also carry a knife on you, safely with sheath for quick acces. Some type of remote com device, satellite phone or sat text device in case of trouble. Practice fixing, changing tires and tubes, brakes, chains and derailuereires. Watch vids of people who had problems and how they fixed it. Oh, bring tape and zip ties.
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If by Great Divide you mean the continental divide...the actual trail isnt open/passable with mountain bikes. I mean I'm sure some of it is, but a lot goes through wilderness than does not allow mechanized or motorized travel. and there are scrambly alpine passes just not passable with a bike. Just a thought. I mean your average person wouldnt know but it would break my immersion
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>>2843707
There is a paralle bike-packing route for the CDT I believe.

>>2841585
This one time I popped a tire somewhere and couldn't find the hole. It would hold air for 30 min at a time though so I was trying to beat a summer storm by stopping every 20min or so to pump the tire up again. I imagine something like that would be a good set-up.

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I need a water bottle that

1. Won't poison me with microplastics or metal flakes
2. Is easy to clean without a dishwasher
3. Holds at least a liter

What are my options?
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>>2841588
Dude looks like a basedjak.
And this is coming from someone that hates the onions memes.
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Dude looks like a s-o-yjak, and this is coming from someone that hates the onions memes, atleast the cobson jemerald nonsense or whatever they call it.
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>glass bottles
https://www.sciencealert.com/glass-bottles-actually-contain-more-microplastics-scientists-find
Lol
LMAO
Seriously. You cannot avoid microplastics unless you live the life of a hermit. Even if you avoid plastic 100% in your daily life. Even if you buy everthing in nonplastic containers - what do you think that food was processed in? What do you think happens to abraded car rubber particles? And not for a second do I believe that the kind of people who avoid synthetic clothing and water bottles do all that.
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>>2841588
There are titanium canteen sets on aliexpress if you feel like spending the money.
Else there is stainless steel, much heavier and somewhat more robust.

Is BPA-free TPU as hormonally active and microplastic-generating as other plastics?
>>2843346
That's stupid. You could make the same argument about ubiquitous carcinogenic substances.
Any sane person will avoid them all the same, reducing exposure thus lessening effects.
Every thread a pointless argument.
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>>2841735
Where do you think you are?

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I want to quit society and live out in nature.
Where can I do this, and how should I prepare?
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>>2840334
>Then he's done.
Then he heads back into town to resupply. This isn't rocket appliances.

>but that's not...
That's how everyone living alone in the woods do it. Some rely more on forage, hunt and grow, but everyone living alone in the woods relies on civilisation.

To think somebody is going to google "how do I live off the land" and actually pull it off without years of practice is pure fantasy.
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It occurs to me that /out/ should write a copy pasta or something about "quitting" society. These threads are so common it's kinda pathetic
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>>2838506
>Where can I do this
nature
>how should I prepare?
just go
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>>2838886
>>2839010
samefag
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I kind of want to to the same but I have no money saved, I do have a 10k credit card though. I was thinking of ways I could turn my credit card into cash and I thought about buying 10k worth of gold and then selling it back to a different gold merchant for cash. I expect I would probably lose like 1-2k in the transaction but then I would have enough money to last months of roaming and living out.

Is there any reason this wouldnt work.

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but I actually want to do economically meaningful activities on it.
Must be at least 25 acres and have a water source.
Pls halp.
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>>2843271
So if I ever decide to go there I should probably stick somewhere near to a group of people to be safe. Or go deeper into the woods because I don't think fucktards that jump random people will be far from a road. Need some kind of a navigation though.
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>>2843253
>California is not a safe state
>have never had a problem
lol
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>>2843531
You missed

>I've almost been jumped at rest stops along I5 twice, I'm just glad I ccw and they ran when I reached
>I always go down the river and camp in a group

try harder next time
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>>2841317
A friend of mine bought 30 acres in Western Colorado for about $40k and has started building a cabin out there.
The land is terrible, but you’re not going to find good land for cheap.
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>>2843588
If it has a road access and neighbors are not retarded it's fine.

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>plan a camping trip with 4 friends where we're going to hit some trails
>i drive us 8 hours to the campground we're gonna stay at
>they're all saying how excited they are to do all of these trails
>get there - eat food
>they sleep
>think "ahh probably just exhausted from that car ride"
>go out on my own do a trail, have some beers and sleep
>next day
>make breakfast
>1 hour after breakfast they sleep
>well i'm not going to sit around and sleep
>go do a few trails on my own
>come back - they're still sleeping
>i get hungry so i make some food
>they wake up and sit on their phones

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>>2834850
Nah that anon is right. /k/ is basically the fatter, dumber, more LARPy cousin of /out/. They can't connect with nature so they connect with their tools instead and make it their entire identity.
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>>2826459
Well, at least now you know.
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>>2826459
>be me, 32 year old neet from Ontario who loves the outdoors but doesn't have a car and can never really get /out/side of the city
>start dating a girl who grew up on a small farm in East-Asia and has never gone camping before
>we rent a car once in a while for short day hikes
>she's slow but seems to enjoy it; only complains about mosquitoes and bushwhacking
>decide to plan a two-day canoe trip in the middle of July
>although I have lots of experience canoeing due to having a cottage, I have almost no experience canoe camping and don't really know how to plan a trip
>plan a trip that's way too ambitious for our level (especially hers)
>15km paddle on day one, 15km paddle back on day 2; two portages each way.
>didn't even think of preparing for rain or cold nights or anything. Just trusted the weather man
>After day 1 paddle we're both totally drained but I make a fire, we cook dinner over it, and we explore the camp site a bit
>absolutely amazing feeling of being outdoors, all alone on a lake in the wilderness
>slept on a shitty foam pad and had a terrible sleep
>second day we pack up and begin our journey back home.

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>>2831959
>powers through the entire hike and camp set-up before falling asleep
Built for long shifts
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>>2826459
I'll at least be upfront and say that I only really want to car camp and drink around a fire. Once in a very long time I'll agree to backpack. So long as they understand, I'll be slow as shit.

Is Kilimanjaro the highest easy mountain in the world?
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>>2843479
The question obviously isn't "is it harder than climbing out of you bed" but rather "is it harder than the hardest trail you can get to within a few hours of driving"
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>>2843482
Depends on the aspect. Scrambles aren't all that difficult, though over large areas they can be tedious. It's really the altitude that's the issue. There's a secondary issue of temperature, which is made worse by altitude since chemical reactions can be different due to the lower oxygen levels and cold. Batteries fail and heat packs stop producing. Layers are the main way to deal with it.
The fun part is that after you summit and start your descent, you pass through a vast expanse of scree on a decent slope. You can pretend you're hopping around on the Moon while flying down the scree slopes rapidly.
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>>2843478
When I was on Kili I was the fattest I've ever been. I have two friends that did it last year and are couch potato office-body types. There were scores of Americans there when I did, this was way before COVID. It's just not that hard, man.

And yeah, HAPE/HACE can kill you anywhere. Kili isn't unique to that.
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>>2843497
>And yeah, HAPE/HACE can kill you anywhere. Kili isn't unique to that.
You can get caught in the crossfire of a gang fight anywhere but it's far more common in the ghetto.
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>>2843492
>Batteries fail and heat packs stop producing
If you are depending on those to stay warm you are doing it very wrong.

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Anon, in order to help you /out/doors, what are you placing in your Altoids tin can?
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>>2842309
Why not just wrap it in some rope or something? Surely there are ways to reinforce it so as to not let it loose. Maybe some reusable tape or rope? rubberbands? Idk.
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>>2842165
The most efficient use of these things that I know of is charcloth
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>>2842176
bigfoot wouldn't use condoms
you have nothing to store in there
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>>2842176
Fuck that leave no trace bullshit. I don't know how many kids I have, but it's at least 4.
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>>2842258
>Banned in Canada
you can still get them on the rez

Found last week in an abandoned mine in Maramureș county, northern Romania. The light used is LED.
it can't be bugs because this was kilometers deep inside the mine, only fungi and bacteria here.
I tried asking on reddit but that was of no help (as usual)
What could the species be? Is it an undocumented species or perhaps undocumented behaviour? I couldn't find anything about it. I asked a few university profs. and they also don't knkw what it could be.
https://imgur.com/a/Eyu9dSJ
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bugs
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Any health issues so far?
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>>2840899
hyperdeath niggeraids 9001, the soviets left a lot of it behind. it's mostly harmless despite the name
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>>2840899
>>>/x/
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>>2840899
lmao a retard sticks a device giving out EM interference right next to a microphone and it's circuitry

Are temu backpacks reliable especially for interailing? If not have u got any budget friendly alternatives?

https://www.temu.com/goods.html?_bg_fs=1&_p_rfs=1&x_csite=goods&goods_id=601099515225228&refer_page_name=bgn_verification&refer_page_id=10017_1757778280239_e341nh9t1i&refer_page_sn=10017&_x_ads_csite=goods&_x_ads_channel=kol_youtube&_x_cid=2003332867kol_youtube&_x_sessn_id=legmzt76e0&projector_num=1
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>>2842066
This.
Do not gloss over this. None of their goods are safe. There was that big lab study that showed they have shit tons of chemicals lacing their products. Lead, cadmium, arsenic being the big players.

Literally go anywhere else.
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>>2842066
>>2842224
yep. stay the fuck away.
gf's friend is a temu addict. she's been getting real sick lately. she almost exclusively buys temu clothes.
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>>2841976
I highly doubt it. Perhaps they'd be somewhat decent after some modifications though.
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Buy Forclaz/Simond/Whatever name these are sold under. They are usually decent for the low price.
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>>2841976
>Are temu backpacks reliable especially for interailing?
I'm mostly acquainted with AliExpress, but the shit should be the same.
The obvious realistic answer is: depends on the pack.
Although when compared to "Western" alternatives in the same price range (<100€) the chink ones usually end up being better.

But usually those tacticool ones aren't that good.
Think established chink brands: NatureHike, 3F UL Gear, if you want to go cheaper and slightly more questionable: Jungle King, Outdoors Inoxto is even more budget but they are more specialized on hydration packs and smaller (<40L) backpacks.

And it's not you need a lot of quality for interrailing.
Also, consider the obvious budget option of a Decathlon backpack. (60-70€ and you should come out with something good enough).

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What can realistically be done to help preserve and protect it from deforestation? I’m talking concrete solutions, not just “vote” or “let your voice be heard”
Which charities are the most honest and most effective? I don’t want my money going towards buying someone a private jet.
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>>2842316
wrong pic mb
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>>2842315
this
The only way the most based national park in the world and it's mountain gorilla population survives is through armed rangers shooting anybody who tries to fuck it up.
200 rangers have died in 20 years protecting the other piece in the Congo.
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>>2842222
Exterminate the humanoids cutting the forest.
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>>2842335
Finally proof of bigfoot
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>>2842315
This. They already shoot at them with bows and arrows

I will be following the footsteps of an older close friend of mine who went /out/ing in Africa in the 80s after he ran away from home at 17.
We met on similar desolate paths elsewhere and I learned much from him when it comes to approach and attitude to make a journey that doesn't rely on money to get you to your destinations. But, I had never dared to go to a place like Africa before talking to him.

But, I will need some modern preparations such as the ability to make e-Visas, what power plugs are used, where to avoid insurgent or militia ruled areas, etc.
Is there any better source than https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
Any personal experiences and advice is also welcome.

>inb4 go /out/ing in your backyard like we always do
No
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>>2826650
>the upper gambia basin.
that looks way more green than I expected the Gambia and Senegal to be. I thought it was the arid, sparse trees savannah throughout.
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>>2842375
Don't make excuses for being dumb and ignorant

Just accept you didnt know and learn from this
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>>2842767
Depends on when you go. Rainy season feels very jungly-tropical. Dry season everything turns into savanna. Picrel was taken just a few miles from >>2825963 four months later.
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>>2842853
Last question: Did you fly into Banjul or Dakar?
Im considering skipping the whole seeing desert, just considering how far north the Dakar airport really is and the many urban areas Id have to get through before reaching the green places.
I'm finally flying out around next weekend btw. End of rain season, but hopefully still green.
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>>2843368
I never been to Gambia, never wanted to deal with the border crossing. Seems like a hassle either way. You could fly to Dakar and get a flight to Ziguinchour, I think it’s like $120.
Shit man that’s soon. What’s your plan? What gear are you packing?


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