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What are the best long distance walks in Europe?
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>>2712044
Awful, retarded map
here's a fixed one
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>>2692757
Bump
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>>2692757
The thing is they act like they have something that's worth bothering with but then travel to escape what little they have as they own even less and will continnue to own less as time goes by. Scandis are always the best tier but I don't consider them euros because they have the ability to not fuck up thier own nations, besides migrants. It's a bit of a delay.
Germany, spain, england, tiny soviet satalite hellstates all the same shit. They'd rather not own a ruin in a park than have limitless veldts, woods, or places that you can't get found. It's something of a cultural disease because obviously they have to try and live with it and that means lots of bargaining and begging internally to be praised for something even the most mutted out american can do for 20 dollars of gas and a payer. They have so little now. That's why people bailed on them before the industrialisation and now it's just an unmitigated hellscape of collective cope and no hope. You're are the point where it's better to be born a south american or an asian than a european in europe. They brag about other peoples stuff constantly. Italy was pretty cool exception but barren chaparrel is a favourite of mine. They have funny shotgun town. All the good parts of europe migrated out 80 years ago and the leftovers are shitting in the lifeboat and complaining about the smell to this day. I'd pity them but they did it to themselves and have no idea. Absolute ignorance. These people aspire to living in an apartment and those that don't are crushed and shouted down by thier own until they get the fuck out and self educate or they suicide.
They don't know enough to even know what they don't have. No point arguing with the dead and buried. That's all they are. A rotting mass. Devoid of all hope and aborted of evolving culture.
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This guy walked across Wales in a straight line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8m7DvNEn0k
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>>2723046
He also got cops at his door for crossing a train line on camera and was forced to remove the vid by the state. I like geo, but man he's working a good game in a place where they do NOT want you to play. He's based.

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I am thinking of ditching my tent and matress and sleeping bag for a tarp and a hammock.
Any experiences on this?
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>>2720393
That's what I do for the tarp. No use spending the money on anything else since it isn't going to have the long periods of stress of me sleeping suspended by it.
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>>2722166
Good to hear. Weather's been shit here, so no chance yet to try it out, but since I rarely stay at a spot for more than a day and usually pack my stuff each morning for a hike to my next stop anyways, I figured a night shouldn't create that much stretch and if I am staying in a place for longer I can just re-tension it each evening.
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>>2709623
It's easy to get comfy. But you will wake up with your feet tingling or your back will hurt. Hammocks are nice for naps, but aren't very good for multi day trips imo
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>>2723009
You are incorrect. I will not elaborate.
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>>2721198
I've used a tensa4 for years and have used it quite a bit. Nice bit of kit but it is very heavy and I don't think it would be suitable for kayaking, biking, or hiking tours.

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What do you guys hunt with? Whether its small or big game
What kinds of guns/bows/knife equipment do you use/recommend
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>>2717887
Yes but since I got my silencer for .22LR I haven't thought about it much. It is nice to be able to have what would be a factory hearing safe SBR without having to pay a stamp for it though.
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>>2715446
Good grouping, but with the synthetic stock the balance is forward of what I'm used to.
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>>2722823
These were both ~60 yards with no prop
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>>2722824
>4 MOA
>good grouping
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>>2722872
Sighting in new rifle, not using any support, a few shots have connecting holes, all close enough grouped to drop a deer. Here's one we had to check because we couldn't see where the 2nd shot hit.

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Just got an REI membership and all I want to do now is consooooom
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>>2710245
REI doesnt have stock. its a co-op.

Their weird fetish for black people is purely ideologically driven.
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>>2722478
their return policy is a lot tougher in practice these days. its not 2002 anymore.
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>>2707378
the only black people on backpacking trails are there to mug or kill white women
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>>2723000
I'll never pass for a woman though :'^(
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>>2722931
REI associate hands typed this post

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Looking to get some nice fancy outdoor apparel. What's the /out/ recommendations? Any charts?
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>>2721472
Been looking for some good pants. Probably gonna buy something with some discounts on marmot, their clearance sales. Get something for me and my mom.
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>>2721472
>>2721472
Thrift stores.
I have bought almost all my clothing from thrift stores for decades--name brand stuff for 10% the price usually in new condition.
Turns out gear heads shopping brand names to look cool outdoors don't dare condescend to set foot in a thrift store: but damn they do donate a lot of hardly used shit just because they just got this years model.
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>>2721475
>pants
The Prana stretch Zion straights were the greatest pants ever made. I managed to snag two replacement pairs right before they switched to some bullshit recycled material and fucked their own product.

Is there anything that comes close in quality and fit?
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>>2721475
Kuhl and fjallraven
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>>2721472
I got a marmot dwr rainshell a long time ago and wear it every day, been very happy with it

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now that the dust has settled, what EXACTLY did he do that was so wrong?
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>>2722802
You mean not knowing that there was a fully functional bridge within walking distance because he was too stupid to do basic research about the area or bring a map was a fatal mistake.
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>>2722802
I agree. However, with a map/compass or large quantities of meat it could have been avoided. However it's likely we are splitting hairs here. I hope you have a nice day. The weather is nice here so I shall go for a stroll. Nice speaking with you anon! Only the politest of herbs as I don't feel this post helps the conversation along.
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>>2722233
Could have just brought an Apple iPhone 15, it has satellite phone functionality for emergency calls and with it's titanium plated sides it's ready for your toughest adventure.
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>>2722470
He's probably dead now and was most definitely helped.
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>>2722839
only the pro is titanium and iirc its not plating the whole frame is that

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MOST OF YOU DON'T EVEN GO OUTSIDE
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>>2702229
I live in a rural area. Rural and nature turns out not to be the same...
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>outdoor boys when he sees a ptarmigan
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>>2702229
>too soi to get a fire going via the hand drill, so he just puts the stick in an electric power drill to do it
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>>2720083
well he should stick to bushcraft because travel vlogs are only watched by retarded queers
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>finally a camping video
Lukebros... we're so back

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What's up with Krauts, specially boomers, and their kitted out rigs?
I'm in southern Europe and every time I go to the beach, no matter the time of the year, there's always many, many hundred thousand €€€ traveling/camping rigs there and 90% of the time they have German plates.
As I post this there are a couple 100K vans, mercs sprinters I think, fully prepared for world travel and parked on a gravel road right up to the beach.
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>>2720072
>I can hook you up with some reasonable priced older bmw as well.
WHO WANTS A MONEY PIT LIKE THAT?
I AIN'T BUYING YER SHIT, MUHAMMED.
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>>2718464
they will need them to run over all the turkish hordes taking over their country
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>>2718464
Krauts can't afford that van lmao. Wtf are you on about?
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>>2720205
I, too, was under the impression that van life was a North American phenomena. Maybe the tiktok boom that we saw right before COVID also made it fashionable in Europe?
Anyway I agree that people should avoid German vehicles if they plan on using their vehicle for camping. In the US at least, stuff made in Germany typically requires going to a mechanic that focuses on imports. General maintenance often requires things like specialized synthetic lubricants, and German engineering philosophy prioritizes capability over ease of repair. This isn't necessarily an issue if you have shitloads of cash to burn and are only planning on using it a few times a year (honestly, most retirees would fit this category), but if you want to put serious miles on your camper van, I'd recommend a Ford Transit or Dodge Promaster.
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>>2720205
>only americans
lol so naive. overlanding is an european/colonist invention.
there is direct land access to the entire european, asian and african continents from here and its been explored by cars since, well, the invention of the car. didnt really kick off until after ww2 and 70s was when it really started to be a thing.
most of theese are doers, not posers, so they dont really post much online except from a few forums, and a whole lot of it is in their native language so it might not ever come up on your suggestions. germany, france, nordic, dutch, spain, italy, all of these basicly have their own section of internet that you barely see while they see all of yours.
i might only be a norwegian but i have friends who have driven far into africa and asia, and i seen plates here from the same places. also the occational usa or canadian plates.

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Morel edition
Found about a half pound over Easter weekend, upstate SC.
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>>2722803
swag
am I right I'm right aren't I?
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>>2722700
You the Iowafag? I'm in Southern MN and spent several hours searching yesterday only to get skunked. Feels like it should be peak morel season right now but damn if it isn't sparse.
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>>2722922
I am one of the Iowafags
I think the cold, windy weather here in the last half of the week has stunted things, no idea what it's like over there. I will be in Chicago next weekend so I won't be going out until May
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Went out trout fishing today and decided to check for some mushrooms since it’s about that time in western PA. All I found was this, what is it?
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>>2722937
Some Trametes species, maybe Trametes gibbosa

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What is required to do activities like: rucking, climbing and swimming? I want to do physical activites /out/ but I usually dont do more than jogging
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>>2720269
try a bike
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>>2720269
>Rucking
Get a good backpack with a proper frame (not a MOLLE) and then just walk. Most of rucking is based on a heavy squat and being able to run long distance. It's pretty easy to practice and backpacking is the perfect medium to do so.
>Climbing
Start in a rock climbing gym, most memberships come with shoe and harness rentals included. Learn to belay top rope then evolve to lead climbing and then go with people to outdoor sport climb and then you evolve to traditional climbing and multipitch. Mountaineering is a combo of this and snow climbing which is fairly easy, do a guided climb with a class on a Cascade volcano and you will have everything you need to hit 98% of all the mountains in the states. Most of mountaineering is just cardio and rucking desu. Climbing skill comes with practice and strengthing the fingers, arms, core, and toes through use. Takes a couple years but climbing gyms are pretty ubiquitous and a great place to meet /out/ friends. It's expensive to start but really cheap once you get all the gear (My trad rack + shoes + rope + harness) was maybe 1.5k total over a few years as I got better. Ice climbing is a whole different animal and you should learn traditional rock climbing before you tackle ice.
>Swimming
If you don't know how to swim as an adult, getting swim lessons is totally reasonable since tons of people drown because they don't know and get themselves in water they can't stand up in. But really, unless you are racing, you won't be doing swimming super often /out/ because it is slow and you can't really bring gear. Scuba diving doesn't resemble swimming a ton and if you are doing water sports you should wear a life jacket.
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>>2720271
sure
>>2720573
>Get a good backpack with a proper frame (not a MOLLE)
Would just a regular backpack for school and work be fine then?
>climbing gym
I kinda wanted to just to some big rock and climb but I guess safety comes first
>you won't be doing swimming super often /out/ because it is slow and you can't really bring gear
makes sense but I was originally thinking of lakes and beaches in europe
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>>2721033
>backpack
Regular backpacks can be used but the internal frame makes a huge difference on your back and for how much you can carry. To start, don't buy a bag but once you but more miles and more weight that's when you start looking. I have used an Osprey 65L for the past 8 years and it is falling apart but I love it. My fastest competitive ruck (Norwegian foot march, 2:44) was with a Teton Talus2700 which is a good summer multiday pack. You sound like you are in europe so go to decathlon and take a look at the bags.
>climbing
you can def do big rock by yourself if it is class 3 class 4 but rock climbing in a gym helps get the scaries out so you don't freeze up midway up a rock. downclimbing safely is way harder than climbing up and climbing is more versatile and fun with a buddy. I personally dislike bouldering and I sort of like rock climbing but I do both to train for mountaineering since they are all the same family.
>swimming
makes sense. also look up riptides because those will kill you if you don't know how to deal with them.

Where are you in Europe? I'm in the states but might have some good starter recommendations.

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I've never used one of these
Are they really that useful? Are they a real game changer?

I see everyone using these but dunno... never felt the need
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>>2720954
A stick doesn't have the little metal stud on the end that sticks to rocks and roots like velcro. That little point is where 50 percent of their effectiveness comes from.
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They're good for rocky, uneven water crossings and flat lands that are flooded/mucky. You can easily catch a toe or sink in the mud unevenly and the poles can prevent you from falling. A must have in mucky Alaska unless you enjoy being covered in mud or shredded by falling on stream rocks.
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>>2719046
One is the way to go, all the functionality none of the faggotry
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>>2721200
>doesn’t know if he wants them or not
Newfag
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>>2721248
>They slow you down on the downhill
you're fucking high
I'm easily 2x faster using poles on the downhill. It's like downhill skiing with more steps... way way faster.

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Planning on a backpacking trip with friends next month for a total of 5 days. We will be on an island with no amenities and we are only allowed a backpack on the ferry ride (aka no coolers, rollers etc). I have never done backpacking before only car camping. Food is the most concerning thing to me, I have a limited diet so I cannot eat fruits, nuts/seeds, most vegetables, and anything with high fiber. Which leaves me very little options.
should I just be packing a dozen freeze-dried meals? I will be with a group of 8 people but they are not likely to share food, only supplies
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>>2722636
I have Crohns disease and an ostomy bag (large intestine removed. Foods with insoluble fiber like green vegetables do not digest fully so they come out whole and cause discomfort. Seeds dont digest and come out as sharp pieces that could put a hole in the bag. When I am at home this is not an issue, when I am camping in the woods for a few days I dont want to do anything that could make me have pain or sick.

>>2722608
No coolers or anything on wheels are allowed on the ferry. I can only bring what I can carry in a backpack and sling.
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>>2720296
>dehydrated pouch meals
>>>more cleanup and prep
kid if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, you need to keep quiet about it so you don't embarass yourself like this
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>>2720270
37 cans of sardines
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>>2722851
wtf do i do with the stinky smelly sardine canes for 5 days? there's no trash canes
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Just-add-water pasta meals sound like they'll help. There are backpacking meal providers superior to Mountain House. MH constipates me.

Can you eat oats? If so, buy them and apportion a half cup to one cup in freezer bags together with a spoonful of dried milk (Judee's is a good brand), sugar and flavorants like cinnamon. That's breakfast.

You won't cook for lunch. Buy or make wheat tortillas and bring a jar of nut butter or a brick of cheese.

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I really like camping / hiking gadgets.
I really like things that can easily break down or fold up and can be easily carried with a standard backpack setup.
Thinks like compasses, tools, tents, bedrolls, fire starters, stoves, etc.

Post your favorite or your most recommended gadgets or doodads.

Not electronics.
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>>2721507
>Florida man spotted running around the everglades screaming, naked with a Victorinox up his ass.
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>>2722009
You can take wood with you, either before passing the treeline or before disembarking.
if it's winter and there wasn't a lot of rain immediately prior, then the dead wood is also going to generally remain burnable the whole time.
A good wood burning stove is just a good way to heat up a tent.
I wouldn't take a wood stove for longer trips without a pulka/ahkio though.
>>2722019
Folded or unfolded?
Stowed or usable length?
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>>2721498
they are all total trash. most of them are entirely aluminum or plastic except for the shovel blade too
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>>2722510
Does anyone make an actually good multitool shovel?
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if you dont have one of these, I unironically do not trust your ability to function while out or camping

>>2722733
why would you want one

Dudes I went to high school with now have house, wife kids truck dirt bikes side x sides and fuckhuge camper trailers

I'm fucking disgruntled
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>>2720569
Yes a lot of it looks beautiful but I'm assuming the Sun there is still a little too spicy for me.
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>>2720583
The sun is basically Colorado sun. The prices unfortunately are also Colorado prices. I bought my first house for 260 in 2016 it was 180 five years before that, I sold at 450 in 2023. Prices have wholesale skyrocketed and it's getting unreasonable.
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>>2673535
I'm not sure how you can have gainful employment and not do all those things, from my experience the only way to have opportunities is through other people giving you knowledge or connections, I would know because I have no job and do none of those things except I live with my mother who I hate, maybe I'm just a bit tarded, I'll probably be in prison or a mental institution in 3-6 years from now.
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>>2720591
Thanks anon. Middle of nowhere Kansas it is then.
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>>2720828
Stay where you are.

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whats your EDC?
for me its a sheffield 16 in 1
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>>2720800
editing out the keys
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This. I know it's "slick" but I like cold steel. Sue me. That s35VN is quite nice. Fallout 4 is so much fun. Funny story. I was on the fence for months about either the code 4 spear point or a para 3. They both had a good feel when I held them at the local knife shop. But I guess it was the 150 dollar price tag of the para that made me cringe. Maybe one day. But DESU I'm pretty sure this cold steel Code 4 will outlive me. This is a perfect knife to me.
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>>2721037
>auto
>dagger blade

no guard, what a fuc
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>>2719184
not posting pictures but
>on my person
various keys, 2 nitecore TIKI lights (one is regular, the other UV), small travel lock and keys (also on keyring), phone, CS spray in jacket pocket
>in backpack
two more phones, leatherman supertool, victorinox picknicker, folding sharpener, dental cleaning sticks, a bag, notebook, pens, lighter, sofirn flashlight, box with breakfast and lunch, pain meds, small amount of sodium bicarbonate, purse with cash and cards, various ID cards, paper handkerchiefs
contents of backpack and pockets may change depending on where I'm going (as described above is what I take to work), eg if I'm going for a quick stroll out at day or night with a friend I probably won't take a backpack and instead have a knife and flashlight, handkerchief in my pockets)
the most pointless things for daily carry among these are probably the sofirn light (the tiki usually does the job, the sofirn mainly shines on a walk at night and perhaps as an impromptu hand warmer) and the victorinox (mostly carrying it because it's quicker to access the bottle opener). might remove them and add a compact monocular in the future in case I want to look at something far away
>>2722220
Fallout 4?
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