Do you bushcraft when you're /out/?
>>2846437isn't this cuckoldry applied to the outdoors?just sitting in the corner watching?
>>2849104Correct.My chainsaw allows me to defy nature.
>>2846636I still tracked you easy.
>>2846366never, I just use rocks and wood from the floor to make a fire and let nature intactI think that if you build any bushcraft you'll destroy the natural view I love about the place, that is why we use tents to just sleep and not leave any traces just imagine everywhere you go /out/ there is a wood cabin, tables and stuff... it would absolutely lost the appeal of the place
>>2849585Bushcraft can be sticking a suitable branch next to the stove so that you can dry your boots faster. Or when you lose that damn tent peg and need to cut a Y-shaped stick to make your tent right. I used to make shit shovels out of sticks thick at one end, just shaving it down flat with a knife. But then I got a trowel on chinese ebay.It can be anything that you make of it. I'd like to get a few handheld woodworking tools, Beavercraft type stuff, to put in my camping bag. Then I can carve things while I am out there if the moment takes me. There will probably be a self-made spoon on a shelf somewhere one day with my initials carved into the handle.
Those who have been to Alps and Scandinavian mountains, which place did you enjoy more? Are there any good cheaper alternatives?
>>2843792You certainly shouldn't go to Norway if you want cheap. The one thing that is nice about Norway in terms of money is trust and rights to roam so TECHNICALLY, you could just walk in and sleep in public cabins, but for most people that is too hardcore and with no guarantee there actually being space in one.Another avenue is, and this is what I say to anyone with wanting to come here. Hands down the best way experience Norway and it's nature is boating along the coast, stopping at places and then hike up the mountains along the coast. But obviously too time consuming for normies and requires one to be a marineEnjoyer.For various other reasons it make the country inaccessible as a quick go to tourist type place. Like >>2844382 points out though, things are getting more crowded and IN GENERAL people are getting pissy. Most tourists to norawy just comes in big tourists boats and shit in the fjords. The way we live our modern lives are unironically getting in the way.having said that, normies chase vistas because they are unable to appreciate nature. Grab a book or two about vegetation and geology and you can unironically get a lot more out of your trips. There has to be cheaper places though. Bottom half of Europe is basically all mountains
Italian Alps- knower
>>2843792Thinking of going to the Finnish or Swedish Lapland soon. Should I?
>>2849439Best part of Sweden imo.
>>2845709My literal Prussian grandfather who served in the German Army thought the Swiss were too uptight, boring, and adherent to rules.
Who else here has autumn as their fave season?>September is perfect weather wise. Not too hot, not too cold, never any extremes in September where I'm from. Sun sets at a good time not too early, not too late>October has Halloween>November has Thanksgiving
Happy Halloween /out/
>>2839690>November has ThanksgivingAmerican detected
>>2847262Thats why September is the best month. Autumn feels but not too cold yet.
>>2839690Pumpkin VS Sweet Potato (さつまいも), who wins?
>>2840074I'm two months late, but lakes region, whites, or the coast for NH. I don't know Maine as well. Acadia's gorgeous. Been other spots that are very nice. But my experience in Maine is it feels like NH except you have to drive two hours in between everything.If you're going 95 into Maine and want a short (30m-1hr) hike with comfy views, Mt. Agamenticus is 10 minutes off the highway. You can even drive to the top. Top's like a little park. Nice view of mountains in the distance in one direction, ocean on the other side.
The real debate isn't East vs West. It's North vs South.
>>2849419California just has the best weather in the US and it isn't even close
>>2849320How are Americans treated in Canada these days? Would they even be able to tell. And no I'm not fat and loud kek
>>2849521Better than the poojeets, just try not to be brown.
>>2849437I'm glad you think so. Please stay there and continue to enjoy your "perfect weather".
>>2849521Just keep a low profile and have a high tolerance for just letting people spout off without interrupting or correcting their obvious schizophrenia and you'll be fine.
If you could pick ONE book to take out on your hike, what would it be?
>>2849291>but i do hope to be able to collect books eventuallyMuch like >>2849294 I'd recommend checking out used book stores. About half the books in that bookshelf are used. There's probably a website or two for it for your country, and I've found that the quality for "very good" or "good" condition is usually extremely high.Historical books are often also cheap because copyright is long gone, so it's a question of who can put a translation on the market for the cheapest.My default is still that I download ebooks on my kindle for free and if I happen to realize a chapter in or so that I really like it I'll consider buying the real version. Alternatively if it's historical in nature it may just be so cheap I won't even bother and just buy it outright.A solid chunk of these books was in that hallowed 7-12€ range.
I enjoy reading poetry and smoking pipe tobacco while camping. I picked up a collection of Yeats collection recently, will be reading that on my next outing.
>>2849294>>2849455tyvm anons
>>2842604ive been carrying Dr Graham Harvey's book about animism with me to read idly when out. it asks you to consider bird persons, fish persons, plant persons, stone persons, and The Elements, Places, Things made by human hands as persons..
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
>this isnt your backyardwhy even live
>>2848559also good
>>2848533>>2848559NW is an under-appreciated gem.
>>2849297Do I really need a gun for polar bear or can I just wear jingle bells and carry bear spray?
>>2849401In AK the correct answer is always both. Environmental conditions can make bear spray ineffective. The tundra gets very windy.It’s less socially acceptable to be packing a bear caliber sidearm in the lower 48 so up to you on if your comfortable getting some looks. If I’m in dense woods where it can’t get too windy, I’m totally comfortable with just bear spray. I’d say unless I’m in the Montana/Wyoming griz country area, I’m not going to bring a sidearm. Bear bells are useless. Bears don’t necessarily register bells ringing as being indicative of humans nearby which is the whole point. They’re too similar in frequency to things like bird calls. You definitely don’t want to surprise a bear so talking loud and making noise is always good. Bells aren’t the right way to do it though.
>>2849401Sorry I didn’t specifically answer your question. If you’re in polar bear country then hell yes have a .44. That said, unless you live up here, I hazard to guess that any situation where you are in polar bear territory, you’ll probably have some kind of armed guide with you. In that case I wouldn’t worry about having a gun yourself. Definitely do at least carry bear spray. It is extremely effective when the conditions allow for it to disperse as intended.
the greatest /out/ youtuber is back. did we miss him?
>>2848392Criminals hate lawyersI watched him for a bit, but didnt know he was leaving yt. Half the stuff i did watch was borderline suicidal. Ffs he brought his kids out for some of that shit.Was pretty kino tho, ngl>>2848398Outdoor boys, for those wdk
>>2848219Who is this? Qrd?
>>2848260>>2848372Imagine being so homosexual that you can't conceive of watching a video of someone if you can't imagine them fucking you. If you're a straight male then you wouldn't fucking care what he looked like.Fucking fags.
Fuck now I want to go up to Alaska and try to get a walrus skull. That would be sick
thats not forest anon
Where are all the mushrooms edition?
>>2842943They're based. A lot of personality in a small handsome package. I don't have many around me, just crows and magpies who steal my cats food. They sit on the trees at 5pm watching me feed the cats.
Not exactly Brit, but close enough.Dinner is secured tonight.
Anyone walked the Ridgeway? Looking to do it next year in Septemberish as a charity thing for a friend that died due to cancer last year.>>2843637Not usually as this board has autists from around the world and foraging is very specific to your area. >>2843754Do you get much use out of it? I wear a Tissot Heritage 1938 daily and swap to an ancient Timex expedition with a broken indiglo when /out/
what can I plant in my garden this time of year
>>2847356Garlic
Looking for suggestions for lightweight, high energy/protein/carbs food to take on long hike wild camping.I can cook things in mess tins but ideally if so needs to be fast cooked from a small fire in mess tins.So far I have beef jerky and processed rice or cous cous packets of dehydrated meals with vegetables and spices in them. Cous cous can be hydrated in 5 mins with boiling water. Rice 15-25 mins.Looking for stuff I can carry a bulk of but are easy on pack weight while also high in energy and nutrition.
>>2849394>Having to hydrate/boil every mealYou need to consume and procure (or bring) water anyway. Whether you drink it or make soup with it doesn't make much difference.
>>2849394Fucking retards like you deserve to die out in the wild.Filters or purification tablets are last resort in desperate situations when you need to drink shitty polluted or dirty water, not when you are near a water source that you subsequently boil and contain to carry with you.God fucks like you have no clue how to survive in the woods.Stop posting you brown skin faggot
>>2849395For drinking cooking and bathing but apparently those jeet fucks think they can just drink muddy water from a filtration straw and be perfectly fine.Retards
>>2848601>I am not carrying a fucking cast iron skilletThat is why no one will remember your name.
>>2849396>Filters or purification tablets are last resort in desperate situations when you need to drink shitty polluted or dirty water, not when you are near a water source that you subsequently boil and contain to carry with you.can you explain further?qwhat's teh difrenrecne betweennevermind
https://www.sfgate.com/national-parks/article/national-park-workers-struggling-survive-21169466.phpThe national parks are slowly collapsing. What are we going to do about it?
>>2849156more than you son.
>>2849011Sell parts of it as real estate
>>2849156>going to tourist infested parking lots naw
>>2849276>memetakenaw
>>2849024Imma keep it a buck with you. The national parks are really important for /out/ing. If you don't understand that... this isn't the right board for you.
Moving to Madison soon, so how would you guys rate Wisconsin? I did quite a bit of fishing there growing up, which was fantastic, but what about everything else? Hiking, homesteading, skiing, etc. I've heard are all pretty good there.
>>2847889Anywhere in particular within the Dells? The Dells looks (from minimal inspection) to be like Hocking Hills where its slot canyons so you can't really get a longitudinal view without a drone.
>>2848025Yer
Lived in Madison for seven yearsThe Ice Age Trail is neat. The most spectacular landscapes will be found where the rivers cross the Driftless Area, like Spring Green and La Crosse. The northern woods are great for fishing and just being in the woods by yourself. Kwik Trip kicks ass, they're all over the place and have cheap, hot food all the time. I didn't spend much time near Lake Michigan but it's certainly there for you to explore.
>>2847378Fuck you the moccasin bar has the worlds largest Muskie in it.
I have Wisconsin relatives and they are an eclectic bunch of functional alcoholics. I brought my cousin to a bar in Fort Collins for a beer pong tournament and he got denied because he was accused of being a ringer. And truthfully he actually was. Dude doesn't miss. At my fraternity he brought a case of Kessler whiskey and made us old fashioned and whiskey sours from bottled sundrop. Even muddled the sugar, cherries orange and bitters. He was the last to pass out and up at 7am, beer in hand. >>2847571Wisconsinites are nothing more that Cajun Canadians. They have a unique dialect, friendly as fuck, live in woods and farmland, live beer cheese and maple syrup. Canadians of the deep south.
KEYSTONE WAS THE FIRST RESORT TO OPEN YESTERDAY AT 3PM!
>>2848211Read "Staying Alive in Avalanche Terrain" by Bruce Tremper at least before you think about going out. It's basically the Bible for this stuff. Picrel is from that book and describes the danger of Backcountry skiing pretty concisely.
>>2848241Great read, but it's no substitute for an intro to backcountry course and/or going out with experienced friends.
ANDES TOWER HILLS MAY OPEN TOMORROW SKIING IS IMMINENT IN THE MIDWEST
>>2848242>>2848241I was born with a complete knowledge of the outdoors because I'm not a woman
East Coast resorts are starting to open too after the recent storm cycle <3
I want to become more outdoorsy, but I have little to no knowledge of how. I wanna start fishing, camping and hiking, but I have no clue how to start. I don't trust myself to even start a bonfire. But at the same time, I don't have any friends or family that are into this stuff. Any tips?
>>2845786>caring about becoming "outdoorsy"bitch nigga if your first concern is to get the "outdoorsy" label you're already NGMI
>>2848987You mean I can't go to rei and get a $600 Cotopaxi jacket and wear it around my office like I'm some sort of badass?
>>2845786go for a little walks by yourself first and find a community of normie hikers and make friends. they'll show you the basics just to get things started and later you'll decide yourself what do you personally want from going /out/.
>>2845786just do something, what is currently getting me into hiking is really just having been outside in some amazing places outside of my own countries on hikes and seen some breathtakingly beautiful nature. so now there is actually a drive to experience more.
>>2847519What about now, bro? It's been nearly another two weeks, have you gone out since then?
What's it like permanently living on a sail boat and sailing around the world? It seems to be the only way you can truly be free in the modern world. I'm not naive, there is obviously risks, but if you aren't an idiot and get sufficient experience beforehand are you most likely to be fine? Any other interesting/useful information is also appreciated.
>>2849079Or lots of singular swimming greenhouse pots trailing after you in a net like structure.
>>2849082:O
>>2849082>>2849082Two drifters meet, something needs to be exchanged
>>2847522I live on my sailboat (cs36t) about 6 months a years the other six months I am working away from my home port. I've had it for about 12 years now bought it for 44k and put in it more then 50k so around 100k total invested in it. Don't regret it at all went south 8 years ago alone from east Canada to Bahamas had a blast and will do it again soon.
>>2849001I would say that growing plants on a boat is a massive pain in the ass. You need fresh water, soil, decent weather, pollinators, maybe a way to keep plants away from the sun. Also as one anon said you would have a problem with space. If you can solve all these problems well good job
Why haven't you gone winter camping yet this season /out/?What, are you scared of a little cold?
>>2848992>North African clubs you in the head while you sleep
>>2848995They don't dare go into the trees, it would be the opposite of anything they would think to do. And if they did, they would be there with me haha. You don't fear random black guys while camping do you?
>>2848387>he has no snow in novemberit must suck to be a mountainlet>>2848984fall in the valleys, winter in the mountainsfeels good man
>>2848846Yes. The jackets are nice and the level 7 pants are great for snow.
just got the first snow hereall 5 millimeters of it
