Let's help each other pick a suitable bag.>litres>body size/build>what does it need to have>budget range>short listRemember, the more effort you put into your post, the better responses you will get.
>>2853344>that tying them on or something would work better. What do you think about autistic hipster canvas backpacks bros?Dont buy canvas, if youre larping and going for overnight shit then canvas is fine. If youre serious about camping synthetic materials are lighter and oddly enough more durable. ive never had synthetic shit mold but ive had plenty of canvas mold and it takes forever to dry and traps water.I used to have a 85L Kelty Asher, but after walking with it for a month in Europe i got rid of it due to the wasted space and h ave sense moved to a smaller pack since ive gotten more serious into weekend backpacking.I use a 37L Weekender Pack from LLBean. its just enough interior space for a full kit and extras. it has spots for mounting an axe or whatever to the outside of your bag. Ive probably walked 70/80 miles with the new bag and have gotten my base weight down from 50lbs to 38lbs with three days of food and water.
how much weight should be on this hips vs. the shoulders?
>>2854010is it viable to keep the bigger bag but make an inside frame to hold shape?
>>2854011Try to place the heaviest things such as water against your upper back and things like sleeping bag in the lowest portion of the bag.
Can I get some tips for my next outting? I'm fairly intermediate when it comes to bushcraft and survival, I've lived on the road and in the wilderness for five years but I'm in a period where I have a stipend and education affording me a place to live. I can a get job after this but if I do it'll be remote, down the road is where I belong as a person and it's the only place I've found with happiness and wonder still in life. This time I want to be well equipped without also being an easy target to get robbed with a bunch of expensive ultralight gear. I've got a 65 liter Martingtop, it's very nice besides feeling a little cramped, but it's also unassuming. I want to bring a tarp but I'm unsure if I should get a 10x10 or a 10x13, my goal is to have a little space around my 1 person tent or hammock that I can comfortably cook or sit out of the rain. I have a 13x13 right now that I was going to use if I get a vehicle, but it's easily too big for me to fit along with my clothing. I usually travel for years at a time out on the road, but somehow I still don't have a good idea of what I want or need when it comes to equipment and gear. I don't mind heavier loads full of extra shit if it means more comfort on the road, I walked without a break from Crescent City CA to Santa Rosa carrying a 45~ lb backpack with a broken waist strap and it really wasn't too bad. Maybe I'd rather go light weight though, and have just a light sleeping bag and a tarp and a bug net hammock. Does anyone have experience with both? My main enemies on the road so far have been bugs, rain, and humidity, so I'm mostly focused on preparing against those. Also this is a comfort thing for me, but I really hate shit being attached to the outside of my pack and prefer it all to pack in easily and be safe in the liner. Is this me being a retard, should I be maximizing the outside of my pack space as well?
How important do you think a survival knife is?Do you think it is a rather not needed item thats need can be superseded by a usual every day knife?It is easier to just snap logs for a fire than to hack them with a survival knife.This is of course not including raw survival where you are needing bushcraft and hunting skills to actually survive. Just general non normie tier camp holiday woodland camping.
>>2853214Yea see depending on the terrain you'll see guys with a bolo, saber machete, khukuri, some kind of short hacking sword, because it's for cutting brush. In some terrain you'll likely need to clear brush to make camp or build a barrier around your camp to keep specific kinds of animals out. You can't do that with a multi tool. Very easy to quickly gather a huge amount of dead thorny brush to keep cattle out of your camp, because some are notorious for trampling sleeping people and gear. Or you might want to coralle your own pack animals because some are too stupid to remember their tethered, or in sand there's often little to tether them to but a sand anchor.Some places firewood is scarce, you might have to roll faggots of brush, can't do that with an axe. Or you might have to use faggots to retain soil, or particularly sand to build shallow trenches. So you never see people carry these large knives, because either they'd have a proper tool, or make do with a multi tool, or both. The only guys I know who carry these knives, it's because they're hunting pigs with dogs, nasty business all round. Personally I'd just use a commercial jointing knife because they're cheaper and built more reliably, but honestly that's the only genuine application for one of these "survival knives" I've ever seen.
>>2853506Your concept of what tools are efficient and useful is fine. There are many combinations that work for any given environment. That said.... I assume anyone I come across in the wilderness without a weapon is some sort of mush headed retard. I can't think of many wild areas off the top of my head that are consistently free of both problematic humans AND animals.People can and do get murdered, I can recall a half dozen incidents on trails I frequented, at the times I frequented them over the last 25 years. Animals aren't a problem in many areas but don't underestimate them either. Two maulings, one fatal, in the last 4 years on my local trails.The real world doesn't care if being armed hurts your feelings.
Hijacking threadIs batoning bad? Even Lars says it's pointless and knifes aren't made for it?Are there knives specifically made for batoning?
>>2854309Its called a froe.
>>2854309>Are there knives specifically made for batoning?>>2832232
Everyone post your tips, tricks, and knowledge about how to best see in the dark, and how to best utilise your scotopic vision.This includes discussion of lighting and how to best use it, and IR/thermal/nacht vision options.I'll start:Your scotopic (night) vision takes about 20mins to reach highly effective performance, and up to an hour to reach peak performance - so it's important that you preserve it!Facts about your vision that you can use to your advantage:>your eye has two main types of photoreceptors: cones and rods.>cones are sensitive to colour and most of your fine detail relies on them, they are NOT sensitive to contrast or movement>rods are sensitive to contrast and very sensitive to movement, they see ONLY contrast: dark vs. light and never in fine focus.>cones are grouped in the centre of your retina, directly behind your pupil and lens>rods are non-existent in the centre of your retina, but are spread around the outside, off-axis from your cornea, making survival possible because it is your peripheral vision that you rely on for reflex if anything suddenly moves in on you>in scotopic vision your cones fail and you rely entirely on your rods, this is why in low light everything looks grey or black & white>this also means in the dark anything you try to stare directly at (if you think something is lurking out there in the moonlight) you won't be able to see, you're basically blind to anything you stare atComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
these are my night vision toys>Bushnell Equinox z2 IR monocular scope/camera>FLIR Scout TK thermal scope/camera>Supercheap Kmart brand video camera with IR night mode>external IR lamp because the camera's own lamp is weak and only really useful indoors
>>2853332wouldnt a normal red light work best as is common with many headlamps for exactly this reason?
>>2853576the issue is the ability to dim the light, most headlamps I find don't dim enough. with a handheld light you can cover or obscure the beam with your hand. once you have adjusted full night vision you don't need 100 lumens strapped to your noggin
Just live in the desert. For up to the 5 nights surrounding the full moon in desert backcountry you can walk freely without any light assistance. Some tight shaded canyons can be dark but open areas are light enough to even have color. Pic is not a sunrise but a moonrise of the full moon, and just a regular pic not a longer exposure or anything.
>>2854098yeah in places where you have full horizon it never gets dark for long. even with no visible moon it's only proper night for a short period before the easter horizon starts to get light again. And once your eyes are adjusted even night skylight can help you at least avoid obstacles
ITT guys who made it. Men who didn't die of exposure or hunger, men who survived
>>2845877>almostHis brother brought him food...
>>2847989>Whatever happened to MGTOW and MRA anyway?They joined up with the flat earthers and became MAGAts.
>>2852458terrible take . this board makes way too much of this
>>2852458Was he breaking some rule you thought was imposed on him? Flour, beans , salt and pepper. You would cry like a baby if thats all your mom brought you
>>2842231Wtf
is xander the new goat of /out/ youtubers?
>>2853834The only good Outdoor Boys videos were the solo camping ones.
>>2853843yeah i think his kids are pretty annoying and extremely autistic
>>2853834I can do a temu gear review in a blizzard
>>2853945Then do it lil bro, we need content.
>>2853963As soon as I get my drone and gopro. I don't want to risk my life only to shoot in 720p
what strange / spooky stuff have you seen?once when i was in the desert, there was a telephone pole, on it looked exactly like a 10ft tall bird of prey, just eyeing me downit was about a good 5min of walking, which felt like forever, just to see that it was a transformer that looked weird, none of the other poles had it eithersounds dumb, but it really did look exactly like a gigantic human sized hawk, and the "head" even seemed to follow you too, really interesting illusion, since it also hit all the primal parts of the brain that gone "you're about to be fucking eaten by a bird!!!!!!"a year or two later, when i was gonna take a picture, it was gone, which adds a strange air to "it was right there, i tell you!">inb4 go to /x/ for this shiti want real stories, not >i smelled the rotten shit fart gas, and my best friend was turned into a skinwalker, and then i pulled out that gun from videogame and blasted it, dude trust me
>>2844906Bump
>>2853832Why are you bumping a shitpost?
>>2853833There won't be a response to that
>>2853833>>2853844To annoy said shitposter.
>>2853517You sound like you wish you could gobble cocks but are ashamed. What a massive tremendous faggot and dogshit LARP. The disgust I feel for your basement dwelling, never-goes-outside rambling could make me puke. Go for a walk and take a shower.
Im an adult who myself has never been able to afford much in terms of camping gear, but my mom has quite a lot of money and I think she wants to buy me something nice. Does anyone have recommendations for gear, (cold weather gear in particular)? Pad, sleep system, tent, bag, etc; I dont know if Ill get a chance like this again and am trying to make it count.Pic related I want to do cold weather stuff soon.
Durston Kakwa 55 liter packWiggy's - choose your sleeping bagZPacks- choose your tentCheck out Garage Grown Gear for packing lists and other gear
Merino wool everything, socks leggings, shirts. I spend my winters skiing every day and a good base layer of merino goes a long way.
>>2852774boots. don't listen to any other advice. if your feet are wet and cold, fuck everything else. merino everything is good too, but boots.
>>2853639why do bears eat quarters?
This is literally the most gun that anyone needs in the woods, unless you’re in bear country. Even then, if you can aim then you’ll be fine.
>>2833143If you're broke just get crossbows or compound bows. Any gun that's slower than bolt action might as well be replaced with a bow.
>>2849602This is so based. Ever since I've seen Clay hunting with these I've wanted one.https://youtu.be/L7V1uLNg7s0?si=Qv2gof87Lz1ddtl2
>>2833189I lived on Svalbard for two years. The requirements for polar bear protection when you were outside of the settlements were very simple, and very effective.Minimum of .30 calibre rifle, 12 gauge shotgun with slugs, or .44 calibre handgun, in that order of preference. In addition you would have a flare gun or a flare, and if you were staying at a cabin outside the settlements you would bring flares on tripwires.In practice, this meant everyone had the stainless Ruger 77 in .308, since it's a cheap and easy to maintain gun. If you already had guns on the mainland before you moved you could of course use that, but the Ruger 77 was de rigeur, together with a flare gun.The escalation of force started with shouting, to shooting flares, to firing warning shots, and hopefully never to lethal shots (only in self/group defense).You could supposedly get rubber baton rounds for the shotgun, in which case you were supposed to shoot at the rear part of the bear. That sounds like more of a gamble than I would care to make.Curiously, bear spray was never an option.In heavily wooded and more temperate bear country, I could probably see the case for big handguns, shotguns and perhaps also for rifles with larger, heavier bullets, perhaps something like a 9,3x62mm, which isn't very hard to shoot with, but still performs well in brush, even out of a shorter barrel. Since shooting flares in a forest probably isn't very smart, I suppose I can see the case for bear spray, but I don't know enough about that to have much of an opinion.
>>2833189I was a cop. You’re talking out your ass
>>2849602Is there a big difference the two guns muzzle energy?
How does /out/ feel about Arkansas/Missouri or the Interior Highlands?Calciferous biome, endless water, rolling mixed wooded forests. What's your opinion?
>>2853418Arkansas is much more of a filter than Texas
>>2853403>>2852846>>2852842NW Arkansas contains the HQ of Tyson and Wal-Mart, they literally pay people to move there
>>2853861West Virginia's GDP per capita overtook Arkansas recently. Outside of northwest Arkansas, most of the state feels very forgotten and dilapidated. West Virginia's nature is more beautiful IMO, even though Arkansas bills itself as the Natural State. The forests of the Ozark Plateau tend to be very scrubby and much less impressive than those of Appalachia. Summers are also much hotter. But the Ozark people are quite friendly to visitors, unlike West Virginians (who tend to be sullen and suspicious of outsiders poking around).
>>2852185I don't care to travel to these parts of the country, I'd rather spend my money in my community. Unfortunately we get a lot of tourists in my part of the country which I wouldn't mind if they were better behaved.
>>2853894> The forests of the Ozark Plateau tend to be very scrubbythere's PLENTY of scrubby forests in appalachia, especially where they were sloppy with quick-logging in wind-exposed areas/ridgelines> But the Ozark people are quite friendly to visitorsseems nice!>who tend to be sullen and suspicious of outsiders poking around)don't I know it, it's also more this very superficial niceness that vanishes the second you do anything cross to them and then they turn into a whole nother person and flip out at you with no in between anyways, where 2 go in the Ozarks?
https://alaskabeacon.com/2025/12/10/western-arctic-caribou-herd-long-alaskas-biggest-continues-its-population-decline/> The Western Arctic Caribou Herd, which ranges in Northwest Alaska, is down to 121,000 animals, according to the most recent census by state biologists and their partners.>It is the lowest population since the 1970s, continuing a slide since 2003, when the herd peaked at 490,000 animals. In 2023, the last time a population survey was completed, the herd was down to 152,000 animals. The “weather machine of North America” is showing more signs that it is in serious decline. The carbon stored in the Arctic’s thawing permafrost is a ticking bomb that energy and tech CEOs and their government cronies will gleefully release in their insatiable pursuit of greed. You should care about what is happening in the Arctic. It will impact you.
There are more aboriginals than ever... hmm
>>2853461lol okay boot sucker.>>2853467>muh-muh-muh reeel action!!111hollyshit you have the glowbot word salad down good, is there anything at all inside that identity shell you've build entirely out of billionaire run activist org press releases?
>>2853480>and it pretty clearly has fuck-all to do with peopleCorrect.Warm and cold periods:Literal plant and tree seeds under the center of the Greenland ice sheet, implying complete melting of the sheet at some point within the last 1 million years.Interglacial periods, last major 10,000+ year long one was c120k years ago. Younger dryas catastrophes. Zero human input.Holocene climatic optimum. Zero human input. Warmer than today.Neolithic warm period. Zero human input. Warmer than today.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2853745Thanks for the effort post. It sounds like you've done some reading on the subject. All the things you have written are things I'm familiar with, but I lack the knowledge to properly educate someone else on them and to defend my position. Can you share some sources so that I can get on your level?
>>2853442Evidently the males don't feel like the females are worth putting in so much effort for, and the females don't think the males are worth mating with, so the caribou aren't having babies anymore.Do you own or use a car? If so, you're part of the fucking problem. Stop blaming others when (You) are to blame. The oil barons are simply meeting the demand of people like (You). If (You) got rid of your car, then they wouldn't have to destroy the environment for the sake of your comfort.
i'm lost guys
>>2852336hi lost, it's dad
>>2852336slowly start burning away the forest, you will eventually reach civilization.
>>2852336Get in your space blanket and jerk off to create body heat.
>>2853829I thought I was the only one who beat his meat in the sleeping bag to warm up in the cold...
fantasy books recommendations?
>>2850963sex is fine in botns since its not explicit (offscreen 90% of the time) and severian is explicitly left unfullfilled by the handful of women he sees. It's also heavily implied hes lying about several of these and using them as justification for his actions, given the book is a memoir. Also sev's what, 17-19 during the bulk of the series? Of course that shit is gonna be on his mind.book 3 is peak /out/ with him walking through the mountains with the green light of the moon seeping through the thin atmosphere. creatures like alzebos are cool as shit too. My only complaint with the series is the last couple books shy away from the strange locales as much. If all you focused on were sev's exploits with women instead of everything fucking else going on around him, thats on you. Cause thats only like 5% of the story
>>2849507The Kingkiller Chronicles by Patrick RothfussAnything by Brandon Sanderson
>>2849507The Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn trilogy by Tad Williams,
>>2849547>krabat is one of my absolut favourite books.Looks neat. I'm going to check it out.
I am retarded and I spend multiple hours fucking around trying to start a campfire until it starts burning. It's pretty much wet outside and temperatures go below freezing often.Birch bark works well to start it, but I want to figure out how to start without it. Tried feather sticks multiple times, but it takes a very long time and results are mixed at best. And yes, the wood is dry... As for carrying some firestarting material, I don't want to because autism.My latest idea was to split a log in half, and then with surform make enough wood shavings to start a fire, but no idea if this will work (pic related)Any advice on how to improve firestarting would be greatly appreciated
>>2852783Dryer lint is basically charcloth and it’s very light. I save all of it and use it to light fires
>>2853604how you're gonna store that? you need airtight container of some sort for something that might make an unexpected explosion if you're slow and let the vapors built up. better take wax, petroleum jelly, pine resin, all waterproof and more stable.>>2853690no it's not. most of today's clothes are polyester so it's not pure cotton. i mean, it may work, but soak it with wax/petroleum jelly like cotton balls to last longer and be waterproof
>>2853694yeah i was thinking carry a little bit of it in a tiny bottle then dab a little onto a rag or cotton but vaseline is better it's also more versatile
>>2852783Here's an old boomer trick I was taught:Take a tire, lube the inside with old car oil, and pour gasoline on it. Gasoline ignites easily, gasopine ignites the car oil (hard to ingnite on its own), and the car oil ignites the rubber (very hard to ignite on its own). Once the rubber ignites, NOTHING takes it down.
>>2852783People smarter than you store birch bark for when they can't find it, don't willfully be a retard because you think it will make other people think you're cool.
>gun? heh, I just carry bear spray, it's actually more effecti-
>>2853331>>2849697>>2849879>>2850431
>>2853716extremely dishonest comparison as the shooter already has his gun drawn and ready and is anticipating it's use, aside from the fact he is obviously a competitive shooterEven the guy in the video you linked would not be able to draw and fire in that timeframe in a scenario where his firearm is holstered and he is caught by surprise
>>2853716is this supposed to make a point?
>>2853748Jerry could do it holstered toohe's also ancient as fuck so why not count that
>>2853711Yes, but attacking people was made illegal in the bear laws that were passed in 1976, so he'll be perfectly safe
heres mine time was about 3 weeks agowas fishing at the river behind my house and had a decent fishing day except for one momentwas drinking with my rican friend who brought some ribs and casting for catfishi had like about 85 yards out and felt a rumbleso im like ill wait for a hit on the hook and then run back and shitwell about 10 minutes goes by and its grtting worselike channeling energy to my sphincter i say fuck that im gonna lose it and start reeeling in my linenow im struggling to hold this flow in reeling in on a 12 foot pole on 40 lb test with a 4oz weight(nriver has some deep black mud), i knew it was gonna be a bad onegod knows 8 seconds into the retreival im probably 40 feet from shore i get a MASSIVE strikeand then it happenedthe force of the fish hitting my hook plus my stance, it must have looked absurb.mind you now, i am wearing swimtrunks (no net) and all this happens in less than a secondi instinctely threw back my rod for the hook land, and in the same action release my bowelsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2852103See>>2853235
>>2853108>Just shit on the ground like a normal person.Because no one wants to see or step in your shit. Either dig a cathole or gtfo
>>2853242He shit in a deep planter box, where nobody is going to step. No point in using a bag. Dogs just shit wherever they want, that’s why it’s the law for their owners to clean it up (they do it for free) and the ones who don’t are assholes. Most people are at least smart enough to poop somewhere off the beaten trail, so to speak.Even in nature, I roll over a big rock, blast it into the hole, and roll the rock back.
Perhaps any female hikers would like to share? :-)
>>2853528Can confirm,I dont clean my dogs shit, am an asshole otherwise
