I just want to remind all the seething chuds that I went to glacier np this year and you didn't.
>>2846575>STOPgrim.
>>2846574Based, i kneel OPThis man is more outdoorsy than 90% of /out/
>>2846574I only made it to Crater Lake this year. Hoping to hit Glacier next season, it's "only" 10 hours from me.
Glaicer is based desu. It's easy to get away from crowds if you're willing to do 20 mile day hikes instead of gawking from a parking lot.
>>2846664Auto shitters dont deserve to just trample any grass on the side of the road. There is plenty of backcountry you are allowed to cross country travel in if you are actually hiking
Is trad climbing based and trad?
>>2845177>sport climber mental gymnastics / copeMaybe I just don't want to look at your bolts? If you're going to role play climbing something that wouldn't otherwise be possible without drilling holes and leaving fixtures in the wall, just put up a fucking via ferrata. I just don't understand the "sporting" mindset. Seems like a mental illness. Neurosis at best. For me, climbing is a means to an end. It's all about getting to the top. I'm not above aid climbing even, it's just with trad you carry less shit, that's all.
>>2844927>No don't drill the hecking rockerinos
>>2844934ty anon i want to get into ice at some point but i need to find a good mentor for that, any tips?
>>2840751How do I get a trad wife whose gear I can safely drop on?
Garbage thread
Just ordered the North Face Stormbreak 2. What tent are you rocking? What do you love and hate about it? What tent do you want?
>>2845112Obvious shill is obvious Do better marketing-intern-san
>>2827319The one you just ordered is my go to, I went camping around NM, CO, UT, and AZ for 2 weeks recently and it never had a single problem. You can set it up in around 8 minutes and it's all you'll ever need. Nothing special. >>2827357don't listen to this faggot, he doesn't go outside.
>>2846414Yeah man that other guy who replied is cooked. Its a great tent at a great price. Im glad its served you well, too. Thank you for the input!
>>2839113Me and my friend shared that tent when we hiked the West Coast Trail. It was great>>2839124Thanks!>>2839172Thanks for the info. Thats a great price. Did you end up going out with it?>>2839398Based>>2839400I used to do the tarp thing too. Getting old now i guess. Hating bugs!
>>2839595This looks comfy, bro. Very nice>>2839596Even better. Bravo>>2839675I hear you there. 600 is plenty when you've already got a good one>>2840452I use a tarp. There's no way im paying North Face 100$ for their version of a 10$ tarp>>2840613Sorry to hear that. You deserve better!>>2842736Kek. I am not a child and have money for hobbies>>2842783Did you try it!
I want to get into some winter camping (pine woodlands) and the colder it is the quieter it is out there. As such I want to take a stove with me for a cosy time, reading and carving things inside a warm tent. I'm on a basic budget but these are what I'm thinking. I don't care to spend extra on titanium even though it is half the weight, I will just take more rest stops. Which of these tents would you choose? Or which other? First tent (picrel) only fits1 person, stove inside main compartment - needs a heat mat
>>2846424Yes obviously you can’t xc ski up a mountain, you’re gonna have to bring snow shoes anyways But xc skis are extremely efficient and bonus you get to ski on the downhillYou could walk the trail in pic related? Sure, youd still be way slower than these chads, but thats not my point. My point was to show a pulk, you would understand that if you weren't 14. Back country xc exists, ask literally the entire country of finland
>>2846424>Backcountry skis are good for when it isnt steep enough to use crampons >Crampons are good for mountaineering >Cross country skis are good when it's a very low grade and you don't want to pay for expensive touring skis >Skate cross-country is good on established trails at a moderate grade when you want to go fast>Snowshoes are for when you don't know how to ski.I only kinda mean to be a dick. What other time would you use them though?
A buddy of mine uses a pop up ice fishing shelter with a hole cut in it for the stove pipe. I’ve camped in it with him a few times and it’s pretty dang warm. This is a good cheap alternative to Arctic ovens or other stove tents with the main drawback being that there’s no floor. It is very easy to set up though which some stove tents (Arctic ovens for example) are not and it’s relatively lightweight. It also has windows which is a nice touch. >>2845549As far as size goes, I haven’t used the tents in your pic but from my experience using Arctic ovens and my buddy’s ice fishing shelter, the stove takes up a ton of space especially if you are using cots like we do where I live. A 10 foot wide arctic oven can really only fit two people. I’d go with the bigger tent for comfort. Ice fishing shelters are pretty roomy and we’re able to sleep three in one although one of the cots needs to be taller and able to clear the shorter ones so they can be arranged in a U shape around the stove if that makes sense.
>>2846576>cross country is good for very low gradeEh I disagree. I’m not about to ski up a mountain with XC skis but you can herringbone up some pretty dang steep stuff on the trail. They are much more versatile when it comes to inclines than you’re implying. Same goes for skate skis which are even better on uphills since you are typically going faster, although you need relatively flat hard pack or groomed trails for skate skis. >snowshoes are for people that can’t skiI’d agree if we’re just talking about snowshoes as a method of traversing the landscape from point A to B. There are better options. But snowshoes are incredibly useful tools. When I hunt in dense woods I like to use XC skis on unmaintained forest roads to get to my hunting area and then I’ll strap on snow shoes to navigate around the trees. Snowshoes are also absolutely vital to have if you are doing any kind of off trail cross country snowmachining. They are very tiring though and I would not use them for extended travel.
>>2846582It sounds like you’re saying XC is NOT good for low grade, btw For me lots of my hikes have long approaches so winter hiking looks like this>xc ski as close as i can to the ascent with snow shoes on my back/sled>stash skis, put on boots and snow shoes>tramp up>butt slide down>enjoy the slightly downhill xc ski outSometimes it feels easier than summer hiking!!!
How do I become one of them rangers like Aragorn?Reading The Lord of the Rings some of my favorite parts are the ones with Strider's show of skill.I love how he is completely aware of his surroundings and is able to instantly read footprints and use herbs and quickly make himself and his companions unseen and escape danger. At times he seemed more in tune with nature than even Legolas.I have seen quite a few threads on here of people being scared of the dark and I feel like if one had good old Strider's skill and knowledge he wouldn't be afraid no more.Aragorn wouldn't be startled in the middle of the forest by some bear, he would know about that mountain lion following him for the last 2 miles. He wouldn t get poisoned by some mushroom or die of hunger because he knows what is good and what is bad to eat. Strider wouldn't get lost in the forest since he has been drawing a 3d map in his head this entire time.How do I become more like Aragorn, obviously he has had 80 years of experience but what books would you recommend and things to do in the forest to become a little more like him
>>2845708>>2845772For identifying plants. The best answer is just to get one of those "identifying x in <your country/region>" type books. It's just much nicer and succinct. There are these dictionary books that are meant to broadly key a shitton of plant species, but once you start doing that you realize that nature is constantly raping and shitting out new species everyday so there is little point. Also weighs a tons. Just learn about the useful plants, then keep one book mushroom, herbs, geology etc.
Practice make perfect. But people do things because it is necessary for their survival. Maybe in the medieval times or in the Asian steppes someone would know how to hunt and forage, but in the modern world people dont need to learn these skills to survive
>>2845708Part of the character that isn't really explained in lotr is that he is part divine blood which gives him magical strength endurance senses etc. He is also nearly a century old, spent his entire life training in elven martial arts when he wasn't solo'ing mythical creatures and armies of orcs, and has god approved plot armor.>For mere mortals a good place to start would be bird watching.
>>2845772> I recommend linking up with some botany groupsWill I find a gf?
>>2846040>fall in love with your adopted father's daughter>she's also your cousin>marry her anyway
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/climbing-influencer-dies-live-streaming-140845585.htmlAnybody got the vid
>>2843818>yesHaha hey mom if you're here, look I'm greentexting!
>>2844245Basically you have a belaying device which you can rappel with. It is connected to you harness. It could be a figure 8, belay tube etc. If your device is not self locking you should use a braking knot which holds you if you let go of the rope. The knot on the end of the rope is a must.
>>2844649You tie a knot in the end anyway. It takes <1 minute and saves your life. This goober thought he could climb Yosemite but he didn't know to tie a knot at the end of the rope.
>>2844165There just won't be a response to that.
>>2846602>There just won't be a response to that.Well yeah, he’s dead. He won’t be responding to anything
Any one have any experience doing this job? What nonsense came with the position? Should I do it?
>>2843345I did helitack in Canada. Best job ever, great people, good summer money. Fought fires around Canada and down in Montana. Was our crew's tree faller towards the end, loved running the saw. Initial attack is so based, I worked hundreds of fires in just a few years.
>>2843345I was in fire from 2012 to 2021 including 8 years on a R6 IHC. It’s great when you’re a young guy. It’s definitely a lot of work and requires some extreme endurance and physical fitness - especially if you want to be on a type 1 module. I was usually middle of the pack in terms of fitness but I could still run a mile and a half in 9-930 minutes. When I started in fire I was on an engine and desu I have really fond memories of that experience - maybe even more so than being on the hotshot crew. It was a very chill environment and I don’t think I got more than 500 hours of OT in either year when I was on the engine. Obviously that meant I was poor and so I ended up working in timber during the winter instead of getting laid off. When I went to the hotshot crew, it was completely different; I don’t think I ever got less than 1200 hours of OT. But that meant I felt comfortable enough to get laid off and I ended up traveling a lot which was an awesome experience. But working that much burned me out and 2021 was a brutal year for me and I ended up quitting fire altogether. If I could do it again I probably would have gone back to the engines or rappelled, something that allowed more of a work life balance.
>>2843345Go for it. You'll see new places, make great friends, learn valuable lessons and be set financially in the winter months to do whatever you feel.Been in it since 2019 and will keep at it for another 2-3 years 'til I move on. USFS. Engines & Helitack.Apply for the feds on USAjobs.gov don't bother with private contractors or state agencies. Do a couple summers on an engine or Type 2 handcrew and move onto a Type 1 handcrew or helitack if aviation appeals to you.>>28433872nd what this guy said. Not a viable long-term career but you won't regret doing it in your 20's if you aren't burdened with any of those outside commitments. It'll set you up to springboard into and succeed wherever life takes you next.
>>2843387>>2844042DOD fire is the way to go
>>2843345>Should I do it?No. The Mexicans who mow my lawn get paid more for less work.
Do you bushcraft when you're /out/?
>>2846366((((Nose))))
>>2846445NTA but what's your point then? Are you just stating a truthism because you have nothing better to do with your time or are you attempting to contribute something useful to the conversation?
>>2846437>>2846441>be some asshole YouTuber I used to watch>make a video showing how to build a small cabin out of plastic wrap>comments rightfully point out how wasteful it is and how all that plastic is going to end up in the forest or in the dump>butthurt youtuber responds: "But you all use plastic in your day to day lives, so how can you criticize me! For we are the same!"This is how you know someone has a low IQ.
>>2846366yup but veeeeery simple using stone tools. i want to try and build a sweet track next in the marsh
>>2846441No way, I watched all the Garand Thumb videos about how not to get tracked.
Post cool petroglyphs from your area. i'll start.theres cup marks pecked into the boulders all over the beach here, most were underwater today and even these two i had to wade into waist deep 10 degree water (naked no less..) to get the photo
>>2846586Anon, are you really trying to pass off erosion as petroglyphs?
>>2846592cupules are a well known cultural artifact in archaeology. you probably have some in your area and you didnt even realize it!>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_cupule
>>2846594>Even the identification of cupules remains tenuous: archaeologists have encountered difficulties in distinguishing cupules from other features, such as potholes, mortars, querns, metates, piedras tacitas [es], and small solution pans.
Asking for a friend
>>2846630just about everything is probably easier and more comfortable. only problem is it's also easier for picrel to happen to you
>>2846630If you're distance hiking, your stride wont be as efficient.
>>2846630hehe cute, i wish i had a midget girlfriend so i could carry her on my back on hikes
ITT guys who made it. Men who didn't die of exposure or hunger, men who survived
>>2841902not my fault they fought for the wrong side in WWII.
OH YEAH
>>2846062wat
>>2843555gay
>>2842231Jesus lmao
>b-b-but there's no fall colors out westIs there a bigger east coastlet cope?
>>2845789I live in the West and FUD it endlessly on /out/. We're already full, let the eastcoplets brag and get more diversity moving into their towns.
>>2845789Those colours are to Eastern colours as Eastern mountains are to the rockies. Sure, they exist, and they're nice, but comparing them is pure cope.
>>2845850Another thing we have that the west doesn't is canoe country. All of your /out/ activities involve climbing mountains or trudging through desert. You can't just throw all your gear in a canoe and get lost in an endless maze of lakes and rivers the way we can (at least here in Ontario).
>>2845789>>2845838>>2845839>>2845840>>2845841>>2845842>>2846544>>2846546You're not helping your case.
>>2846562>the west doesn't is canoe country.its true we dont have glacial till lakes/babe's footprints like ON or Boundary waters but we do have lots of canoeing
Didn't know if this was fit for /trv/ or here, anywaysIraqi photographer - soon to be backpacking my ass all the way throughout Central Asia alone, India, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Tajikistan, will probably be camping in the wilderness a lot to get new pictures, the target is somehow getting to Tibet or the Sufi villages in the north of India at some point....I need help with:1. What kind of solar-powered battery pack do I buy? Something portable, I need it to power a small electric stove for boiling water, and a charger for a phone and DSLR, nothing more I think, let's try to stick under 500$? The fewer bucks I spend the better2. I am thinking of buying a Samsung phone with a stylus for note-taking, it'd save me having to bring paper and run out of it, and I'll probably have a spare Chinese cheap stylus just in case I lose the original: what mirrorless bands do I look out for on the phone? What regional model should I buy so I don't get stranded like a dumbass when I try to phone somebody for help?
>>2846449>An Iraqi is posting on 4chanFunny to see. 1. In general you won't find a great solar charger that is going to net you a ton of power . Your best bet is to get a nice as big as possible battery pack and a solar charger. Don't use an electric stove, they are inefficient and it's easier to carry alcohol or equivalent fuel. You have a HUGE power demand in what you are asking for so make sure to conserve power2. For phones you'll need to figure out which bands those regions use, which you can find out on GSM arena. I'm not sure how much internet you can actually get out there so you may wish to look into sat comm internet if it;s that necessary. If cell coverage is decent just look for a data plan. Also I remember watching my country invade yours as a youngling. Pretty wild to be shitposting with you now.
>>2846468>>2846468>An Iraqi is posting on 4chan>Funny to see.Nothing surprising there, 4chan spans the world! There's a lot of us Iraqis on /bant/ and /int/, mostly refugees from the Great Internet Shutdown of 2016 when the government decided the internet was too ISIS-y for their taste and just killed half the social media platforms for half a year (they'd go on to repeat this mistake again in 2018 with the protests)Some are original /jp/ posters from back when (2012 and descending)As a rule of thumb though, you can find a lot more Iraqis on niche altchans than 4chan itself, it's easy to find Iraqis on one of the 1000 Touhou-themed imageboards from my personal experience.Anyways, onto what's important>In general you won't find a great solar charger that is going to net you a ton of powerI see, do you have any suggestions on what I'd want to buy specifically? I can't find my ass from my head trying to figure out which brands are trustworthyComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2846469>Stove recsSo if you were in the West jetboil or equivalent stove brand (firemaple is Chinar and makes decent clones). I don't know how easy it is to get gas cans near you, but I'd imagine it's not great. Alcohol stoves are ancient tech, you can get them for $20. Do a little research to figure which you like, they're all about the same desu. You might want to look into solid fuel stoves, they are a bit easier to carry and you might have better luck in your area. You can also look at using kerosene/gas compatible stoves as every place you're going should have gasoline>Solar vs fuelI mean yeah it will be "cheaper", but do a lil googling to see the power you can get from solar. Unless you're carrying a person sized panel you're going to be waiting hours to get very little. Alcohol or stove fuel should cost you pocket change, even in remote areasFor your phone I suspect you can check forums of those countries or maybe pay for a premium sat phone. I would tell you if you're hoboing be careful, a hobo with gadgets is a target so make sure you have a shaggy bag and clothes. Good luck bud I want you posting while you travel
>>2846536>Unless you're carrying a person sized panelI'm honestly up to carrying something the size of a human torso, problem is how I'd attach it to my back....>Alcohol or stove fuel should cost you pocket change, even in remote areasI am now more convinced, to be honest, gas stove seems to be the way to go >Good luck bud I want you posting while you travelAye, I am slated for 2027, I will have to start grinding from now so I could afford everything off my third world budget, turns out boots that can handle a subcontinental exodus cost a lot more than any other pair of bootsI will make a Tumblr blog, probably
Are there any hardcore /out/tards who have spent time camping in the global south or East / Central Africa?? Any Rhodesian larpers or French military guys on here have any commentary or resources? It doesn't seem like there is a ton of information outside the stuff in the savannah but I'm not sure how applicable that is to the area I'm going. I'll be in Jinja near the Nile. I have anti malaria medication. I'm coming from the Midwest USA and obviously can't bring my guns, blades, or anything other basics like water purifying tablets and shit like a flint and steel / a lighter. I'll be there for 3 nights with no accomodations other than access to a park. Other than don't get eaten by a crocodiles, anyone have any pointers?
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>>2843077DROP DA BOMB MAN
Tbh, fuck niggers and fuck the lazy inept mods on this board.
>>2843077just find a local to help you anon, everybody in uganda knows kung fu
>>2843077>going unarmed into the bush where big game poachers and actual fucking cannibals are lurking.I would say youre not the sharpest knife in the drawer but at this point I think youre just a spoon.
You now remember geocaching
>>2846448I never forget a good shit.
>>2846448I don't qrd
>>2846517As this anon states>>2846457 we used to poop in them. it was our greatest moment here on /out/we called it geopooping
We even used to have a geopooper patch
