Hey /out/,I'm planning a 5-7 day motocamping trip along the blue ridge parkway.Have any of you bros been? Any good /out/ spots or eats?My mind has been drawing up blanks as to what I should do.Also motocamping thread cuz fuck it post ur ride or setup and favorite places
pro-tip: skip the entire section between roanoke and the nc border, the views suck, unless you are just a completistthe part between the start near charlottesville and roanoke actually is kinda nicethe section between the linville gorge and asheville is still closed and has some of the best views and hikes so wait until that's open, the online map isn't always 100% accurate and updated, call the blue ridge visitors center for best infolinville gorge has some great hikes but the roads are TRASH and I don't recommend it unless you have off-road-ish tires and strong legs the best views are near linn cove (you do not park at the bridge itself, you park in the adjacent overlooks and walk on a path just off the road for the views) and I would say roughly between looking glass rock and cowee mountain is maybe the best of the overlooksif you have time, check out the main road in the smokies for overlooks and the paved trail up kuowhi/clingman's dome as well as the cherohala skyway which runs nearbyI recommend white labs brewing for pizza and fancy fries in asheville
oh an its not ON the parkway, and it costs extra money, but blowing rock (parking lot, walk through gift shop, other side is a mini-park with a view) has a quite unique view that allows you to see all the way to mt mitchell (which you probably should also see, it's right off the parkway)I saw SOOOOO many motorcycles when I was just there, oddly ATVs too which I wasn't expecting.
>>2864608Isnt the speed limit like 45mph? You could probably take a 49cc minibike on the blue ridge parkway lol
>>2865336yeah, 35 for someits just kinda crowded esp on weekends and early afternoonsand motorcycles and atvs are noisy, and llots of people were bringing jdm tuner cars to hoon them around when I was thereas well as the usual porsche and bmw sports car suspects
What's some of your favorite /out/ approved kinos?
>>2851645I'll make sure to get a better utility cart to haul cross-country than a shopping cart. I'll carry the fire.
>>2851630What one man can do so can another.
>>2851643Dangerously based. She was hilarious in freaked. Must watch classic.
Hunt for the wilderpeople.
Arctic with Mads Mikkelsen. Pretty good survival movie.
I'm going beaver hunting next month and I need some opinions. Usually there has been enough snow to ski on, but now it is almost certain that all the snow will be gone by the time I get there, which means that scouting will be done by foot and there will be some flooding. This made me wonder if hip waders would be a worthy investment. I've ended up on lacrosse grande hip waders because they are supposed to be durable and comfortable to walk in. However, I'm kinda worried that they are not suitable for long walks with all the extra shaft flobbing around. Will I be okay? If yes then is there a brand i should pick over lacrosse?
>>2864307Get something that protects the Achilles. Beavers aim for that when they charge, see that Russian trench video.
>>2864686no it wouldn'tand bison were far more impactful for changing/maintaining habitat until they got wiped out
>>2864307Neck yourself cunt. Beavers are based.
>>2864686Beaver are the most destructive animal in north America.>find nice trickling stream feeding 10,000 acres.>build a dam>submerge and kill every tree in the hollow.>starve everything downstream from life sustaining water>prevent fish from populating surrounding areasFuck beavers.Neighbor has blown up the beaver lodge next door with dynamite multiple times.New beavers just show up and rebuild it.Now I have no creak u less I go and break thwir damn open. And they just repair it overnight.
>>2865221that's just a polish person
it's simplejust remove all nearby irrigation setups from existence
>>2864039It never should have existed to begin with.It was created accidentally in 1905. It had no outlet and the water quality declined every year as salt built up (along with pollution from fertilizers and even storm drains).It was destined to be devoid of life.
>>2864036they're gonna have to
>>2864064>>2864069use is use fellaswilderness it aint
>>2863837just finish the siberian river reversal project, that was originally intended for this.
>>2865133good idea
The snowy world you grew up in no longer exists. There are those out there who made billions depriving you of snowy winters.
>>2864831snow/water equivalent
>>2858063>dedicate a large part of available human labor,,,,commiescum,,,you never said howlow you want CO2?,,so,,,howlow?, in PPM?
Plants can live at atmospheric CO2 levels as low as 150–200 ppm, although growth is significantly slowed. The current atmospheric average is about 400–420 ppm, which allows for normal growth. For optimal growth in greenhouses or indoor gardens, 800–1200 ppm is typically recommended, with levels below 200 ppm causing severe stress and plant death.
How long will it be at the present level of CO2 depletion until most or all of life on Earth is threatened with extinction by lack of CO2 in the atmosphere? If humans had not begun to unlock some of the carbon stored as fossil fuels, less than 2 million years from today! Human emissions of carbon dioxide have saved life on Earth from inevitable starvation and extinction due to lack of CO2.https://sepwww.stanford.edu/sep/jon/climate.html
Sierrarid.
Did you put in for a permit this year?
>>2865296Parking is not the issue there.
>>2865305>>2865305yeah dude we can never add any more trails and paths without completely ruining this place seriously we should ban everyone from even being within a 100 mile buffer zone of the forest roads that least to them because of the serious ecological damage that could be done if they made some more paths through this extremely fragile ecosystem that we HAVE to take care of, I mean seriously we need to be paid more money to maintain these few trails and paths otherwise mother nature would just take over the paths and the place would go back to being absolute wilderness within a few seasons do you even understand how fragile these places are?? but seriously the only solution is controlling people unless they pay enough
>>2865308>maintain these few trails and paths otherwise mother nature would just take over the paths and the place would go back to being absolute wilderness within a few seasonsThis is true though. Have you ever been to the North cascades? Have the roads out there get washed out every year. Everything gets covered in a bunch of down trees every year.
flatten the land and add more parkingthis is sillyroads can be widened, trails can be maintained, shelters can be built, blazes can be added, parking can be expandedthe obstacle is PEOPLE, not the land
>>2865309i've actually driven down some single lane ancient paved road that lead through the mountains somewhere near leavenworth until it was dead ended by overgrowth, I was being facetious because anon is pretending like these areas won't survive humans
MRE cases make decent frisbee holders. B case gone. What’s the first menu I should rip open in A?
>>2864407Crave so bad I pulled my bag out for a showdown. Doubles on pixel, envy, hex, teebird. Pyro lives there too but I chucked it in the closet with the craves
>>2864413Not my bag but all my mvp… most of my bag consists of things in here tho. I have a problem m8, especially with proxies range detours and waves. Have some cool tempos but I dont throw them as much.
Touched grass at a park I've only been to one other time and found two discs in plain sight in a water hazard that I didn't even need a retriever for. No number and a DX two states away they weren't coming back for.I need to play more rich white areas
>>2864474Dont see many mints. The course giveth the course take away…
You remembered to throw your astronaut frisbee last night, right anon?
Urbanex anons, where do you find abandoned locations on the map? I've been seriously considering getting into urbanex (purchasing equipment and doing preliminary safety training), but I'm stuck on the research side of things. Are there any good databases of locations that are known to be worth exploring?
Post your preferred hiking shoe and the rest of us can judge how /out/ they are
>>2863605I love walking around in sandals on the daily but i sure as hell wont go with them innawoods with the amount of ticks there are. Last hike I did in the summer i caught 6 of them on my pants and was glad i skipped sandals that day.
For shoe get the belleville mini mil shoe and just replace the insole with whatever of your choice for comfort. If the shoe isn't side stitched always buy a aquaseal glue to fix any delamination and you'll have a durable cheap shoe without getting tricked into buying something advertised as specialty because its built with a mattress amount of foam.I tend to prefer gaiters but for boots id go with Zamberlan and their Cormon model specifically. Like the bellevilles i recommend getting the wider fit for both the shoes and the zamberlan boots. Zamberlans can be a bit narrow like most Italian boots. But like I mentioned with the foam adding unnecessary shit for shoes since you can adjust comfort with insoles, a lot of hiking boots try to trick you with 'technology'. The uppers of Merrell moans is over designed for low quality workers and is just asking to get shredded. Even Lowas popular models like the zephyr is over designed with the upper.For a boot you want as simple as design as possible as zamberlan does that trying to use 1 leather piece to wrap around the boot with minimal stitching. They also use a stitched rubber around too for durability. A part that is notorious for peeling off is stitched here. Its still a 2.5 pound boot too so less fatigue with zamberlans excellent durability.Everyone else's suggestions here are gay and every response below this one, only uses their footwear for blowing people.
>>2863540Going to go hike Mt Charleston barefoot in these things, can't wait for all the normie fags to stop me on the trail and say "Woah!" or "How can you do that?" while I effortlessly glide past them heading up the trail to Griffith Peak.The earth shall bend beneath my feet, while the rubber fuckers tiptoe around me like the faggot ass pansies that they are.
Alpina trappers. I've got some shorter lanx boots I use for lighter things like dog walks with friends where I don't need as much ankle support or expect to get wet and muddy.
>>2865027well the least coast hardly qualifies as hiking
Weather is starting to get cold and I wanted to get you guys opinion so I figured I'd get the wool general goingWhat's an acceptable blend in your guys experience for /out/ings? I'm looking at getting one of those L.L. Bean birdseye sweaters and it's 80 wool 20 Rayon. Will the rayon be detrimental at all? Anyone have experience?
>>2865511well, valenki were definitely not an invention of the Soviet Union, huh
>>2865516I said they had them, not they invented them by the power of tyrannical communism. Apparently they're not even russian, but an invention from the steppes where they used a lot of felt clothing.Also I can see you hate the soviet union and that's a perfectly reasonable position to have, but all I read so far tells me they fared far better in the russian winter than the germans, so they must have done something right.
>>2865526i’m tired of repeating myself: the climates in Germany and Russia are different; they aren't even close. the Germans were prepared for winter-but only a German winter, not a Soviet one. is that really so difficult to understand?and as for the Soviet soldiers who were able to endure it, it’s not surprising. If you took people from California and dropped them into the middle of Yakutia, how long do you think they’d last in that climate?
>>2865538>Soviet soldiers were supermen who could endure cold winters with shitty gear because they had a superhuman physique or somethingWat
>>2865540what supermen? what nonsense are you talking about?
>>2864288Seeds don't need light. Best way is fold some kitchen rolling half, wet it. Put seeds in the fold and place into a plastic container in the airing cupboard. Seeds germinate underground
>>2864292>>2864290Don't put them in the fridge. The fridge is too cold. Think about nature and how seeds work. Ffs it can't be so hard can it?
>>2865245Kitchen roll in half*
>>2865246On top of, not in....lrn 2 reed
>>2865249Yea, that would work. Not sure why i thought it said in the top of your fridge
I think I want to sell my home and just either live in a boat or an rv and fuck around the west coast until I eventually drop dead or somethingAnyone here ever actually live in an rv or a small boat full time? does one cost more than the other long terms? I suppose the boat thing sucks because no natl parks or driving around to go get supplies, but living on the water sounds kind of cozy honestly
Look at all of these RV fags coming out of the woodwork... RVs are gay.
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>>2863086>>2863087
>>2855384I wanna drive boats>>2863078this
Full time boat living for 8 years. Versus a land apartment I save over 1k a month.Maintenence costs are significantly less than that. Literally everything is mildly inconvenient, laundry, groceries, water, getting to work and back, but the way I get to live more than makes up for those small hurdles.I know a lot about boats. I fix all my own shit. I also work on boats, I fix all of their shit. If you pay someone to fix your shit (in my area) it's gonna run you 150$/hr per guy minimum. Electrical, fiberglass, plumbing, engine, rig.The internet is your friend. You can learn how to fix it. Don't be a retard. If you're a retard you'll end up in a world of hurt. Otherwise you'll be fine.I'll check back if you have questions.
Want to know what I can do with the land I have now, mainly gardening or whatever else is useful. I would ask around but I'm not entirely sure how to talk with my neighbors without having ever met them before. Trying to do what research I can online lately. Things have been going well enough so far so I want keep going. Does any of this sound good so far?
>>2864926>gardeningpests are my biggest issue. deer, possums, raccoons, squirels, plus all the insects. potatoes are a great crop to break out new ground because animals dont eat them and bugs are controlled with sals suds and neem oil 2tbsp each per gallon. also you can ammend your soil with tons of leaves. tree leaves are acidic and potatoes like acid soil. you will have to add some nitrogen to your soil because the leaves decomposing will use up notrogen, piss is a good free source of nitrogen. hotwire fence is great to keep the animals out of other crops.>orchardtry to find out varieties that grow well in your area. i bought 15 trees 6 yrs ago and only two have produced fruit, i suspect i bought the wrong varieties or something. tyty nursery sells cheap bare root trees that have grown great for me. plant fruit trees asap, they are a longterm investment. they need FULL sun. >pondyou can put pigs in it and let them root aound in the mud, this is supposed to seal your pond off. are you in the US? what zone?
#1)Destroy the English Ivy.Mow it.Burn it.Poison it.Eradicate at all cost.#2)Research trees for your zone.Just because they sell Species X at the local home depot doesnt mean it does well there.Citrus will die from winter freeze.Apple wont produce without cold winters.Buy the largest you feel comfortable spending money on. The difference between a 2 foot sapling and a 5 foot sapling might be fruit 3 years earlier. And youll never make up those lost years of increased production.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
And just for the record-Any named cultivar (Honey Crisp apple, Fuji apple, Stewart Pecan, Meyer lemon, any rose with a name) are all clones. Planting seeds from any of those will create a new cultivar with random traits (fruit size, taste, disease and pesticides reaistance). Parents do not breed true. They are all clones/cuttings from the original named plant.Either a cutting was rooted or it was grafted onto rootstock.of a common variety. Care must be taken to insure the rootstock does not grow new branches because it will overtake the graft. This is generally just an issue during the first couple years for trees but can be an issue with winter die-back on plants like roses and blueberries for eternity.
>>2864937>>2865096I live in the US in zone 6. Luckily I don't have to rely on Home Depo, I know a local nursery business that sells trees for my state. I would hope they could give me good options for what works best here. For the weather, it gets cold enough for good snow most years, so apples should be do-able. I'll make sure to double check with the nursery to make sure they'll pollinate well. For the garden, I'll have to get that fence since I do have a lot of wild animals here. I'll probably spend more time on the trees for now just so not to overwhelm my time or budget.
>>2865160Id get trees in the ground as soon as possible, youll be that much farther ahead.Deer will still nibble on fresh leaves and bucks love to scrape the felt off their antlers on young, soft trees. Ive lost a few saplings when bucks start fighting and crash through anything in their way. So be advised on that. I have 5 foot tall, 2 foot diameter wire cages I use on saplings that matter. Most survive just fine without them though. Also see what are cash crops in your area. Pecans are common here and ive bagged 2,000 pounds in a good year and sold them for a buck a pound to local packers.Walnuts are a pita. Packers want them husked and thats too much work for me.Almonds take a lot of water and probably wont do zone 6. Same with pistachio.But once again id focus on fruits & nuts that you enjoy, not what could potentially bring a few extra bucks.Ive done raised beds and planted specific crops year after year in them.Ive also just decided to til a random place in the yard and plant 500 sq/ft of green beans for just 1 season.Canning is great but very time consuming. I do about 500 quarts of green beans every couple years and at peak harvest ive spent 14 hours in a day picking, snapping and canning just what was ready to pick that day and repeated it again the next day.
I want to plan my first backpacking trip but I don't want to shell out hundreds of dollareedoos for the ultralight supermax auto-coom sleep system with an affiliate link because I'm poor. I thought of doing a tarp and hammock set up but I want something with maximum versatility that I only have to buy once.
>>2865063i am not payong $300 for a pad that will develop a slow leak after 3 uses when pads that will develop a slow leake after 3 uses are available for $50
>>2865165Good pads come with a repair kit. You should also not sleep on ground without a groundsheet and clear the ground meaning removing all potential pokeys. I have never had a problem with a pad leaking when using a ground sheet under my tent. I also live in a area with tons of rocks and constant twigs and sticks. Are you semi or fully retarded to not do any of this?
>>2865166this is a minimalist thread. if i need to carry extra stuff for it to not break its not minimalist
>>2865180Even then why compromise on quality sleep?In all honesty if you are really looking for true minimalist just go camping with a sleeping bag, and foam cell pad. Not like the pad can puncture. You technically don't need a tent or a bivy if its warm enough, and if its really warm just take a pad meaning 70s-80s at night. 40 degree bag is about 50 bucks and one of those foam cells is around 20, if you are attempting temps around 50-60. You are more or less bound by the weekly forecasts and their accuracy.Even thru-hikers don't compromise heavily on sleep. A inflatable pad is also able to compact further down than a foam pad. Also a groundsheet is 7-8 ounces for a 2p so a 1p would be 4-5 ounces.
Buy a nice $20 bottle of wine and use it to chat up someone to share their sleep system. Or for an ultralight option, hyperventilate into a bread bag for 60 seconds and then smash your head into a tree. You should fall asleep pretty quickly.
Is it too late to become outdoorsy at 26? I'm not physically fit at all, I pretty much look like picrel but I'm also tired to be rotting in my room all day, I need to change
>>2860015i have allergies so i can't do out
>>2865066There are medications to help with allergies, you know.
>>2860015Yes
>>2865072does it is enough to roam in the wild ? i though that allergies are permanent...
>>2865078>>does it is enough to roam in the wild ?yes>>i though that allergies are permanent...they're not. talk to an allergist.