6.5/10>mediocre hiking trails>great paddling trails>South part is overcrowded and dull compared to rest of the continent >North is slightly better but fuck ton of blackflys and mosquito during the summer
10/10, we got almost every kind of terrain to camp in.
>mostly just farms in the south but woodsy in the north>decent hunting>great lake shores are beautiful>cool gorges and cliffs in the southwest near la crosse, but nothing super special>mosquito hell6/10
>>2871778How seriously do they fuck up the out experience?
>>2873739Californias population has been ruining it for literal centuriesRead "Two Years Before the Mast" and Dana says exactly the same thing about them two centuries ago.
niagara bro, can we nuke toronto?
Does anyone have any good tips on how to find bones? I live in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by forests and plenty of wild animals, yet I rarely find any remains. I have a small collection that I'd love to expand, but it takes quite a long time. Are there any universal spots in forests (such as clearings, deeper woods, etc.) where you're almost guaranteed to find bones?
>>2874788Low areas.Injured animals take the path of least resistance. Theyll follow a stream bed before they climb a hill.Areas with shelter. Like an embankment or stand of trees where they decide to rest in the shade then never get up.Hollow or corner where a predator can safely eat its kill and only focus on being attacked from one direction.Turns on streams where a carcass would get hung up after being carried down a straight portion of flood waters.
>>2874788I thought this was about hunting with a bone as a bludgeoning weapon, to LARP as a caveman
I have found various bones and skulls before, i havent set out to find them purposefully but of I did I would research which local species have cool skulls then go on inaturalist and look for sightings, habitat regions and seasonality and go from there
>>2874788I walked a considerable distance to look for bones. I wouldn't know how to guarantee finding them, but covering large areas increases your chances.
Tie some chicken wings to a few bones and teach your dog to find them. Same strategy as deer sheds.
Post YouTubers you wanna go /out/ with
>>2874026Is she jewish?
>>2874026>see this picture>instantly subbed to her youtube, twitch, and joined her discordI have weird taste.
>>2875448jews are a city race. they don’t like camping.
>>2876026parasites needs hosts
>>2874026I am 100% certain she is autistic.
any recs for a hat with brim ideally somewhere between a bucket hat and a cowboy hatlooking for sun protection from all angles (not baseball cap), but can be put in a bag easily (so not leather/straw)
>>2874902Personal preference
>>2872177>/out/hats/
>>2875375ay caramba
Can't beat it
>>2872177we're out on a range today, not *the* range, but *a* range
I'm backpacking right nowits 30 degrees my feet, back and shoulders hurtthere's mosquitos everywhere I can't even rest for 10 secis this what people are hyping about?
>>2870817europeans are too poor to afford leaves on their trees
>>2872777After wearing one of these, let me tell you it’s surprisingly hot inside. It must be something with how air flows through the mesh.
>>2870818dont forget gear issue a mosquito net and long sleeves/gloves would solve that lol
>>2872705embarrassing moment for /out/. /sci/ would have gotten this joke.
OP HAS FOUND THE TUNGUSKA EVENT GROUND ZEROOP ITS NOT SAFE THERE GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN
trying to decide between binocular or monocular. probably either the vortex solo 8x36 or vortex crossfire 10x42 HD. help me make a decision.use case would be just something fun to have while /out/ and about and maybe even in the city. so smaller size of monocular seems advantageous, but binocs seem easier to hold steady and give a sense of depth.
>>2874092Binoculars always if you can carry the weight, less eye strain. Crossfires are great for the money. I would get the best optics you can afford though. You will feel the difference, especially looking through them for extended periods. Nikon Monarch 7s use to be the gold standard for binos that punch above their price category. If you find a used pair I would get those.
Just ordered some zeiss terra 10x42 binos after a drunken eBay offer I didn't think would be accepted. I've never paid over $50 for binos before so I'm kinda exctied
>>2874918if you're already having trouble stabilizing 8x then 10x or higher will be way worse for you. and 8x is definitely way better than the naked eye. you need to look at some small animals or something to tell the difference. you can see the texture of their fur from like 50yards away, or what a bird has in their mouth.
>>2874144Compacts always trade power for portability.I personally like my digital night visions
>>2874097The Vortex is shit. I've played with both of them, and the Zoom Tube is the only thing worth buying. Vortex is more expensive and has shittier controls.
What kind of pants do you guys wear for hiking/camping? I'm looking for something not too expensive and preferably slightly fire resistant. You guys always have interesting recommendations.
>>2869511>What kind of pantsI'm not insecure so I wear shorts. Mostly jean cut offs.
>>2875888I need to be convinced of a better BDU brand. Truspec works just fine and when i wore them in the service lasted a solid year of 5 mile daily walking while i worked on random shit. Now that i am just a regular office monkey they last about 2 years before getting ratty.
Mostly Decathlon N. 306447 or swimtrunks.
>>2869879It's usually the unprepared people who are underestimating nature that are out in the woods and get caught in a sudden rain storm that get them drenched and then die of hypothermia because they're wearing sneakers, hoodie, jeans or sweatpants. Ie. cotton.
few years ago got my hands on those beauties, pretty much info from "americana pipedream" you could get about them. Great durability for camping, also comfortable
Wow im honestly suprised I was able to post from here. Anyways, hammock thread. Im in a bog, its currently 99°f Share hammock tricks, tips and nips. Let's talk hammocking and chilling outside.
>>2875443Just because i live in a bog doesnt mean im a fucking savage ogre i take care of myself. Also, my tension is fine.
>>2875446>tensionI said suspension. Whats that? Continuous loop to beener directly to tree strap? Well nvmd you do you have fun with it.>take care of myselfSo you simply hover a few inches above your bog whenever you go there? Understandable why didn't I just think of that sooner.
>>2875443>moldi dipped it in a bucket of bleach water the other day so it should be dead
stillborn threadanyways!HOW TO GET HIT ON THE HEAD WITH A DEAD TREENah it did hold I checked it carefully first, on it's way out but had some fresh shoots and was absolutely solid.
>>2875473Jesus. That's gross m8, discard it,
A thread for those studying/working in the geosciences.
>>2876088Methinks he could simply be a demoralised young lad, having lost passion and hope given the current world situation, and because of harsh personal experiences, with no mentor to guide him; those can make any good fellow weary on the long run...Now, coming to >>2875997That's my personal recommendation, but have you tried geoarchaeology? It is a really fun ride if you like geology (assuming you do; else, that's a whole new story) and archaeology. Really, the best of both worlds (natural science and humanities). For example, you can study the stratigraphy of a site, its hydrogeology, the composition of things found there (pottery and petrography i.e.), etc etcI would like recommend graduate studies too, those can also help in your career and be , again, a pretty interesting ride to understand your field, and your own self >t. archaeometrist
>>2876121>Methinks he could simply be a demoralised young ladProbably, but letting people demoralize you is a losing hand. I cant count the number of times people blocked me or gave me bad info on purpose, or gave me bad info because they did not know. I had to fight my way through every job to get promotions. You have to take responsibility for your success if you are not given great opportunities by family/connections. I was given bad advice my many of my geology professors, but very little good advice. Bad advice early on can make your professional career a dead end or more difficult for sure, so you always need to keep looking and verifying information and keep networking to find new developments and opportunities.archaeomtrist? Never heard of this before. So how old are the pyramids really? Sounds really interesting.
>>2875997Here in Australia there are many job agencies who contract geologists out to the mining industry. You basically just show up there, show them you have a manual drivers license and a degree and they will stick you on some shitty rig/soil sampling contract for a month/several months, usually without any formal job interview. This is basically how most people get into the industry with just a bachelors degree. I'm not sure how it works in America but I'm confident there would be similar agencies who do just that. If you want a geology job outside of mining, you probably need experience or a better degree. Skills that make you employable as an entry level geo:>manual driver's license>know how to use ArcGIS or MapInfo or QGIS>know how to use Micromine or Leapfrog or Vulkan>general understanding of how sampling QAQC works and how to avoid fucking things up or at least realizing when you fucked it up and can fix it
>>2876143>but letting people demoralize you is a losing handOh well, that's what one learns from the school of Life; like all fields, some people get it easier, others may need some guidance. Personally, it took me some time because I would think "why people are hurting me when I'm not even threatening them/ will help them?"; then, with time and some counseling centres activities (which I do recommend for people in need btw), I was able to accept things as they are...Such is the path of the enlightened one: resilience and acceptance more than violence; it is long, sinuous and hard, but in fine, one shall get there, with time, painful experience and support. If we can give said support, why not do it —given that the "student" is willing to take that Path?(Compare with showing pond and drinking water, Dao philosophy, etc)>archaeomtrist? Never heard of this before. So how old are the pyramids really? Sounds really interesting.Oh, you may have seen them though: all the petrographic analyses, or soil analyses; even the famous 14C analyses (that's the first thing people mention when I explain my stuff). It is really interesting, to see how Humans interacted with nature (and geology) and how we can discover it via the analyses to deduce even bigger patterns. Or also, how geology shaped Humans and vice versa (for the former, take the smoooth Southern Levantine coast till the Carmel mountains, due to the Nile deposits, and offering no natural harbour; for the latter, all the stratigraphy, tells and pollution of soil). If you have some time, and want to change your ideas/ find new stuff, that's a nice rabbit hole, really And pyramids are nearly 4.5k BP , from the top of my head; see 4th-5th Dynasties, Old Kingdom
>>2876224>know how to use ArcGISI learned ArcInfo (before the GUI becoming ArcGIS). Had to learn Unix (on my own after work hours) to operate the computer, then the custom programming language for ArcInfo - everything was command prompt. The good old days. I started my education majoring geography and was told I would never get a job, would have to compete with PhDs, my remote sensing course was taught by a Chinese PhD candidate who could not speak english. So, I switched to geology. About three years after I graudated the Uni received a massive grant to develop a 'Center for GIS Studies' and became a top program. I was either too early or too late for many emerging technologies.
Post your tents, your tentfu, which will be your next acquisition, etcI currently have my first tent (a typical cheap igloo camping tent, Hummer Igloo 3+) and 2 ultra light 3 season tents (forclaz mt900 tarp tent for 1 and 2 persons). I have used the latter in high mountain before, during summer (which is still cold), but usually in this part of Los Andes the wind is too strong for my tent. So I'm planning to buy a 4 season tent more appropriate for high-altitude and strong winds.Around here most people use the mountaineering line of Doite, pic related would be the one appropriate for my needs. The thing is that here tents are particularly expensive (that one costs +400usd), and I think I might be able to buy something half that price in the US, but I'm not familiar with US brands. Which one would you recommend?
>>2875556I'll probably run into you somewhere out there, I'm starting February 25th from amicalola falls
On the topic of tarps / tents, here's something I never understood:Why does a tarp (or tent) have to be waterproof. Let alone need to be rated to several meters of hydrostatic head?Sure, so you don't get wet, duh.But: If you put up a tarp or tent such that all sides are angled (no water pooling on top) water will eventually soak into your fabric but I'd expect whatever makes it in to mostly drain through the fabric downwards and drip off the edge and in case even more water makes it in I still expect it to cling to the underside of the tarp and run down towards the edge after seeping through. I don't see how water would make it through and then just seperate from the tarp and drip down unless it's pitched at a very shallow angle.Did anyone test this? Like what if you just used plain cotton canvas as a tarp? Would it just rain through?>inb4 your soaked tarp would suck to stow the next morningthat's not the point.
My previous tent (pic rel) failed me my last motorcycle camping holiday, after just the third shower (seams started leaking). Luckily I could return the bastard and get a refund, but have been somewhat anxious to get a new tent ever since, dont want this shit to happen after the warranty expired. Im planning a multiday hike in northern scandinavia coming september though, and hence need a new tent (traveling with two people, hence looking for a 3p tent), have no idea what to look out for. Is an exteremely wind/water/storm proof tent necessary? Hillebergs sure are nice, but just outside of my price range (willing to spend up to about 800-1000eu). Next to this, I would like it to be flexible enough to use for motorcycle camping in central/southern europe. Not very interested in ultra light tents due to durability reasons, and having to use walking poles.Any anons willing to give input in what is important for the shoulder season in scandinavia? And more importantly, what tent would you pick?
>>2876060(cont)Pic rel is tents I have been considering so far. Ideally I'd be under 3kg, and stick to PU for its robustness (+ my lazy ass doesnt want to get out of bed at night in pouring rain just to tension the fly), but considering the other constraints I can do with Nylon as well.Anyone experience with any of these? Which other ones should I consider?>>2868175Curious about your experience with vaude as there doesnt seem to be much info on the tents, but they look solid (similarly with tatonka).
>>2876061I'd throw out everything over 3kg, without outer first and not free standing and go from there.and don't bring any number of Poles to your trip, they will drink all the vodka.
I'm deploying to McMurdo for winfly in a couple weeks.Anyone else heading down this season?Anyone do a season or two in the past - any tips?
>>2875833hmm. I know there are a handful of ice vets here from years ago... I haven't been on /out/ in like 5 years :(
>>2875833There was at least one dude who posted a bunch of pics from working there. Its been a while
>>2875885there's someone on /sci/ who has done ice core drilling too
>>2875829Retired Coastie here. I made 6 Deep Freeze deployments to McMurdo 1980-86. My advice is, get a complete set up of Dungeons and Dragons books and dice. Start brewing up a campaign before you depart. You want to have about 3 weeks of play time all rolled up and ready to go. Give your coworkers a little escapist fantasy RPG action, you won’t regret it. D&D got me through all 6 South trips and a year of isolated duty at a LORAN station at the Arctic Circle.
>>2876068nice! Ever do a stint at a DYE station?I'm not big into tabletop games though, sorry... Never struck a chord with me. I do have a long list of things I want to experience / do, various hikes and activitiesI think some of the forklifts still in use at mactown are the same ones you might have had in the 80s, heh.
This is a thread for enjoying a pipe while doing outdoor activities. If you ask why this belongs on /out/, you've never spent an evening by the campfire with a pipe or bowl or blunt or spliff or joint or vape or edible or dab or oil, silently enjoying the nature around you, and you're missing out.>How to get startedPurchase a cheap glass pipe (or a simple wooden chillum) and a bag of some quality outdoor or mid-grade weed from a dispensaryor your usual guy. You will need a lighter and something to clear the bowl witha paperclip works well if you don't have a proper tool.Pack the bowl loosely, enough for airflow but enough to stay lit. Light the corner of the bowl and inhale slow. Smokeslower than you think you need to, the flower tastes best when it isn't cherried too hot. Tamp and corner or re-light as needed. If you stillhave trouble, try different methods on YouTube until you find one that works for you. Or you can just roll it or whatever.>smoking ganja will get you arrestedOriginally, the government found that weed smokers, following a careful study of the statistics (at a time when hemp was a cash crop) were just peaceful people who wanted to grow their own medicine, enjoy jazz and engage in mild tomfoolery. Nowadays, weed is being legalized against while the average American thrashes in the thralls of poverty. Put two and two together. Marijuana is just another good thing that was under attack by the government.>muh tobaccoNot the time or place (unless you're European.) Start your own thread.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2874498Weed is only fun with friends
>>2874498You can eat your steak with just salt and pepper, but adding garlic or onion is a simple step you can take to unlock a new aspect of flavor. Hopefully this food analogy helps.
You guys use bongs blunts or papes?
>>2874964yes
>>2874393This shit was tight
When it comes to accessing wilderness, do you get a permit in areas that require it? Are you a permit cuck?
>>2873007True, its very cucked but fwiw it was one province and the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional.It was insane when they did it and everyone on reddit was like “ well it’s for the greater good and we can’t risk forest fires…”.
>>2874160we can explain it for you, but we can't understand it for you.
>>2874032what are you even babbling on about? have you ever been to a national forest? fucking retard.
>>2872764If they're required. Keeps the worst of the worst away. I like my public lands too, but they're admittedly less pristine because of the rabble.
>>2872957Didn't leafs even require a permit to set snares and only government sanctioned snares are permissible? Like no dispatcher, spring lock and all that?
How can I start enjoying the outdoors?
What I did is look up a bunch of videos on gear and read reviews on forums before spending a few thousand dollars on an amazing setup and then leave it all brand new in box unopened on shelving I bought for it and never use it while I sit here in places like /out/ to enjoy the idea of doing it.
>>2875839Hell yeah, borther!You're my kind of guy. I did the same, spent 2k€ in equipment and that gave me the clout necessary to come to /out/ shit on people who have cheaper gear.I did take it all out of the package though, takes up less space on the shelf. I need it for the gear upgrades every 3 years.
>>2872701NOFAP IS pseudoscience.How do I know? Stopped fapping a few months ago due to balanitis. Fapped for decades before. Have never felt as miserable and as devoid of purpose as I do right now. And I've been a depressed suicidal shut-in, so the bar is pretty low.Although a good part of it might be that I stopped fapping due to physical problems with my dick, which made me feel like I lost a working dick and as such can't at least go fuck whores or random sluts every now and then.
>>2875832>minimums
>>2876092have you tried not being among the bottom 5% of players?
>JacketPatagonia.>HatArcterix.>BackpackCotopaxy.>StyleGorpcore.>StravaPosted.>ParkNational.>MusicNoah Kahan>Toilet paperComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2874663What does he mean by, “packed out”?
>>2874578>GunBought back>WifeOn a date
>>2875865>SonMy wife’s boyfriend’s
>>2874578>Jacketcostco>hatfree from honda dealership >backpackgift from ex>styleidk>stravadon’t have it>parkdestroyed by moredcai and rigby antics >musici don’t like musicComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>REICo-op member>StoveJetboil>FoodMountain House>BarsBo-bo's>NalgeneStickered>CarSubaru>License plateCA
