>>2757809
He’s right about Denali.

>>2756950
Watch The Man Who Skiied Down Everest. It's very comfy

>>2756950
Yes but you risk being blown into the side of the mountain. There's a very small chance you'd land somewhere accessible from which you could disconnect your parachute and continue your descent. More likely you'd be slammed into rocks, get your lines tangled, the parachute ripped, and then pulled back off the rocks by winds on your now ripped parachute. You would spin wildly, slam into the the rocks over and over again until your lines were all cut or the parachute too shredded to generate enough pull on your body to get airborne again. Your broken and bloodied body likely would end up somewhere completely inaccessible and never recovered.

How long before we can build a hypobaric chamber with VR so anons can simulate the climb without leaving their local 'VR Experience Centre'?

>>2757809
>Chinese hands in occupied Tibet typed this

Korea is an underrated /out/ country. It's mountainous so there are tons of great places to hike, backpack, climb, boulder, and mountain bike. It has a long distance bike trail that you can ride the length of the country. It's a peninsula so plenty of great spots to ocean kayak, inlet kayak, and fish. All while have great public transportation to travel to all these places. Also has a strong supporting culture for /out/ activities.

>>2757332
It is absolutely gorgeous
The mountain-scape in Korea is like a wrinkled up blanket though... it goes from flat valley bottom to steap terrain in no time flat and it does this over and over and over... it's pretty brutal actually. Also--monsoon season is a thing.

>>2757901
And instead you opted to deal with the weight and drag of an internal gearbox?

>>2757919
Yup. I bike an average of 100 km a week and can't be arsed to baby a derailleur anymore.

>my bike was cheap, so it kept breaking all the time
lmao like some onions racing bike is going to break less? I guess things do go wrong on a basic bike now and then but there's not much can fail you can't fix with a pair of vice grips and $10 of parts from walmart or parts pulled from junk bikes. Are you some kind of woman?

>>2757933
You don't even own a bike.

>>2757953
I own a bike I bought used 14 years ago for around $200 and it works great.

Increase incrementally on the hiking front, I would avoid adding weekly more than 10% more distance/elevation gain than you did the week before.

Depending on your living situation try 'camping' in your backyard or even your literal living room, only use what you would have fully packed up.

>>2757722
By the sounds of it you should start with a walk at your local park

You probably have what you need to start already . A back pack, water bottle , some munchies, a comfortable pair of shoes and clothing appropriate for the days weather is all you need for a nice day hike.
Start with a day hike every now and then. As you are outside you will figure out what gear you want. Maybe different shoes for your hiking trips, maybe a different back pack.
The key is just get outside to start.

>>2757722
Have you considered starting with going outside?

>>2757722
>not enough money
Hiking is basically free, camping only has the upfront cost of gear but if you're just starting you can get away with cheap Walmart stuff. Look up the 10 essentials and build around that.
>not enough guts
Do a little at a time. You dont have to fo weeklong backcountry treks right away. Hike solo on popular trails, do a solo car camping trip, build your confidence with more experience.

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>>2757092
thats nice anon,

what country is this? I personally have difficulty differentiating many other countries jungles from the southeastern united states, I need to learn more about local flora

>>2757092
>deep in the beautiful jungle
If you have enough cell service to send pictures you probably aren't all that deep in the jungle.

>>2757092
is this straya by chance?

>>2757336
>>2757351

Thanks, I looked into what underquilts are, and how can they be (sorta) replaced with a wool blanket.
I've got a foam mat too lying around somewhere, so I will make use of that.

I googled the prussic knot, and damn what useful knot that is!

And googling for what you two mentioned sent me down a fairly deep youtube hammocking rabbit hole, so thanks for that :)

>>2757720
>wool blanket
Figure out what website you read that in black is with parental controls. Wool blankets have a horrible warmth to weight (and bulk, and usually price) ratio. They’re an absolute meme.

>Prussic
You mean prusik?
The poster before me is right, wool blankets are an inferior choice unless in a building or to be kept in the trunk of a car.

>>2757351
>under quilts
this
Doesn't need to be a quilt, either. Dead air space under the hammock, like from a sheet of painter's tarp tied off at the head and feet, filled with dry grass/leaves will work amazingly well.

if you already have a woolen blanket and you can't to buy anything else go for it. It's not a bad pick just not the optimal one, see how it works for you

>>2757886
Correct, it's named after Karl Prusik, an Austrian mountaineer and inventor of the knot. It often gets conflated with Prussia

>>2754264
Are you just trolling or do you actually believe that pyramid-power grade bullshit?

>>2754264
thanks anon ill write that down and see if I can implement that
>>2754975
it definitely doesnt hurt, but the copper strip is 100% real

>>2754264
i dont believe you

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beedog,,bump.

>>2756901
Bee

>>2756879
You still Alive anon?

>>2755394
The post shafting shafts for March on the Drina fun time. I'm not Balkan, I just enjoy Dirlewanger esque escapades.

Fact: 99% of cavers turn back right before they find treasure

>>2757579
He went into a sewer culvert lmao

>>2749149
most of them are gated now too. i got sick of finding gated mines so i decided to just enter the mining industry directly

Not outside.

But once I was playing an electric guitar during some heavy monsoon style rain and lightning hit the electrical pole outside my house and I felt a zap through the guitar. I have touched 230 volts a few times too many and this had a harder hit without that same buzz you get from A/C. The pain didn't even last more than the even itself which it usually does.

>>2749216
I detasseled corn as a teenager and one time my crew got caught in a sudden downpour. Sure, we had some dark clouds heading our way, but usually if the rain was casual, we just kept working. Just before the rain really started, the crew lead got radio'd by HQ to take shelter and shouted for us all to sprint back to the van. As we ran through the rows back to the van, the rain really started coming down and thunder started rumbling. I was maybe 50 yards from the van still and I was running the fastest I'd ever ran. To my left, a singular tree at the edge of the field was suddenly struck by lightning. I think it was maybe 30 yards. That was the loudest noise I have ever experienced and I thought I was about to die. I remember I thought the sound was like in Star Wars Episode 2, when Jango Fett uses those shockwave bombs in the asteroid field. Anyway, we all made it back to the van in one piece and waited out the rain, which was about 30 minutes. I had left my lunch cooler inside the van, so I had lunch. When the storm passed and we went back outside, we saw the tree had basically exploded from the lighting. All in all, a really terrifying experience.

Not as interesting as other stories here, but I was smoking a cigarette on my front porch during a storm around 4am a few years back when lighting struck the transformer for the house maybe 50ft away from me. Simultaneously the loudest and brightest thing I have ever witnessed.

>Shitty rural power company took three days to get my power back on

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>>2749216
One time I was forking hay for cows in a thunderstorm and I lifted my pitch fork above my head and the tines started vibrating at a high frequency. I was fascinated for about 5 seconds. Then I realized I was in terrible danger, so I threw my fork down and sat in the truck until the storm passed.

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I got struck by lightning through a river in Turner Falls Oklahoma. It struck the water some miles or so away but it was awful. Me and five friends, plus two kids nearby. I saw a white flash and every muscle in my body contracted as hard as it possibly could for just an instant. Opened my eyes and heard the thunder rolling away. Everyone silently rushed out of the river as fast as possible. One friend who was out of the water didn't know what happened and didn't believe us lmao. Felt pretty fine after but I was endlessly drunk and high on this trip anyway, but the next day the bottoms of my feet felt like I had been walking on hot coals. 0/10 would not do again, I gtfo the water any time I hear thunder at all now

>>2757468
Adzes aren't combination tools. A 5lb mattock has an adze the width of a trenching shovel, and grub hoes/mattocks are different to shovels in that you use your legs and thighs to pull material out rather than (mainly) your shoulder and back so they're much less tiring and straining. Mattocks make shittier holes, can't dig very deep, and can't move material very far, but they're passable for many purposes. Adzes are usually sharp enough to cut wood, you can carve a smaller tree down to a cone and fell it like that. Both tools have their place though, especially wider shovels.

I've neglected to mention that not every tool with a blade perpendicular to the haft is a woodworking adze, the slip-fit ones are usually wider, blunter, and intended for digging (i.e. grub hoes), and wedge-hafted ones are usually very sharp and occasionally curved along the edge and are designed exclusively for squaring or hollowing timber, always called adzes in this case. I'd be reluctant to chop down a tree with a slip-fit adze.

>>2756131
>thrown out into the wilderness
shoes so I can walk the fuck out

>>2757468
From building mtb trails I'm 100% set on the mattock. I've dug caves with them, they're far more efficient.

>>2757834
Same. Digger mattocks are much faster excavators and take less energy to break through material.
Shovels can't deal with roots, rocks, or compaction.

>>2755289
>cant own a mag over 10rds
Owari Da

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>>2754540
pittsburgh isnt that affordable.

>>2754519
I'm in utah and all our mountains suck, everything is too expensive, and there's no jobs.

>>2755303
Just another excuse to take a trip to reno ;^)

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Had an /out/ job in Nevada, lived there for a year and spent ~85% of the time outside or in a tent. Hated every second of it. Not for me

>>2757703
BLM?

>>2757710
Mining exploration

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>>2754685
>freeze at night
103 degrees at 3AM

>SAND
"I don't like sand. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating. And it gets everywhere."

>>2754983
This. Mountains in at 31N in southern Arizona average up to 180 inches of winter snowfall on north facing slopes above 9,000 ft elevation. While in central AZ along the Rim places can average 90 inches of winter snowfall at 5,800 ft elevation due to moisture uplift, other places on the Rim at the same elevation or higher elevation can average as low as 20 inches, while mountainous terrain on the Rim can average as much as 250 inches. The difference can be so extreme that even just walking 3 miles away you enter a new climate regime, in winter snowfalls a good example is Show Low city (20-30 inches snowfall) and on Porter mountain 4 miles from the city limits the average is 80-100 inches. On sky islands and other places in central AZ with huge vertical relief, 3-5 miles distance is enough to go from a climate that almost never ets snow to one that average 60-180 inches long term. There is a very very small difference with latitude but it is barely discernible unless you're talking 10s of degrees of latitude difference and even then it can be completely negated by topography. Topography is the single biggest driver of local climate alongside predominant jet stream patterns.

>>2757717

I'd rather climb to the top of a mountain than become a billionaire oligarch. But if you did want to become a billionaire oligarch, the most immediately profitable sector is energy.

Trading energy and energy derivatives, oil money. The intersection of energy and financial services. Oil trading houses mint new billionaires all the time, employees get huge bonuses, and reap immense profits on war.

Yes they usually quit their jobs.
Long trails aren’t just for trustfund kids and retirees, it’s for anyone who doesn’t have a mortgage or kids really.
I know a guy who works a blue collar job as a repair guy in the wind industry.
I think he basically works all off season traveling to wind farms and getting paid well, and then goes to hike long trails in the summer with that money.
I’m pretty sure he is a contractor, so he isn’t really quitting a job, he just doesn’t seek out a new contract until after he gets back.
Its not hard to save $7k and have plenty of money for your on trail expenses when you don’t have a house or car payment every month.

>>2757651
>Get girlfriend
>have to join bank accounts
Are you retarded? No one gets joint accounts with their girlfriends.

>>2757373

Not final say. They screen you out before you ever get to the interview phase. As the hiring manager you never knew they existed.

>>2757373
checked.

>>2757354
Yes, the outdoor subs on Reddit mog the living shit out of this place. That’s not controversial and it’s not even close. People posting in treads about hammocks here don’t even know what a fucking underquilt is. /out/ is only fun because of how retarded and incompetent the user base is.

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>>2756877
It's a rough board, very much not chill. Everyone gear fags and yells at each other for gear fagging out of insecurity. No one goes out and yells at everyone when they DO go out out of insecurity

It's tedious. There's enough reasonable people but ask any question and answers are going to cover both extremes with nothing in-between.

Other hobby boards are more chill. /ck/ is full of people talking about cooking and how cool it is. /n/ is full of train autism and bike bros. /Out/ is just harsh for why? Aren't we all happy to be exploring the outdoors? Why are we always so strict about what's right and not?

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>>2757059
Just shut up, man

Seconding what a few others have said in this thread, you want aluminum unless you're the counting grams type. They are much more durable and cheaper. Don't get anything fancy and learn to use them right:
- uphill and flats: put straps on passing your hand up through the straps so you have the straps resting on your lower forearm, right below or around your wrist. - on downhills: straps off or very loose, hold them by the top of the handles in your palms. I like to anticipate steps downhill by a bit so I can help slow down during the stride
- in either case: push the arm opposite the leg with every stride. On downhills and flats you may feel lazy and do every other step but they're most effective in short little pushes
- experiment, see what works best for you, disregard haters acquire summits
t. descended 7500ft in a single day with my weak knees recently. Had no need for ibuprofen, it's like night and day vs 2 years ago for me. Proper pole usage helped a ton on the last 2000 feet when I had all my gear in my pack (45lbs).

>>2757451
>/ck/ is full of people talking about cooking
Since when? Last I check /ck/ was people talking about fast food and /pol/shit