What is the worst piece of gear you've seen?
>>2783604>Get a bunch of cheap Chinese shirts printed>Take them to the range and blast them with my shotgun>Sell them to retards at stupid markupFuck, why couldn't I come up with that?
>>2784521Found the jetbrainlet
>>2784201They pack small but aren't the lightest and only good for boiling water. I use one (I traded for it) just to boil quinoa and some kind of indian packet which it can just about handle without burning everything. The trick is to cook it in the packet in the boiling water. Now that I have a titanium pot I'll probably never use it again, though. It also has a bad habit of turning itself off.
>>2784201Jetboil is the worst heat exchanger stove out there. They suck if there's any wind and it is neither the lightest nor the fastest option. Get a Soto Windmaster stove with an Olicamp XTS pot.
>>2783723You can eat everything with a spoon. In OSUT (basic) my drill sgt. made us use only an MRE spoon for every meal the entire 16 weeks. Was annoying at first but quickly got proficient at it. Now when I go /out/ I just bring a long spoon and a knife. It really is that simple.
Has anyone done here done the Via Ferrata in Müren?
>>2784650Helmet, climbing harness, via ferrata set, stiff-soled boots or approach shoes. Gloves are optional but recommended, as is a puffy jacket for when you're taking a break on an exposed cliffside.
>>2784651One must make sure there's ample safety margins. One danger is to panic, get stuck and require help. If it were to me, vie ferrate would all be removed, aside from perhaps the passages set during the Great war, as they allow incompetent people to put themselves in situations of danger, with them potentially even being oblivious of that. Other issues are overtourism, especially in delicate biomes, and what I call "prostitution of the environment", and so forth.
>>2784639Exactly, I've even seen lethal advice given on this board. It's a meme place for shitposting and less serious talk at best. I never completely rely on information from other people myself as a general rule. >>2784650I would seek someone with some experience and get accompanied by them, for the first times at the minimum.
No, but had a ton of fun doing the via in Ouray this recent labor day. Highly recommend.
>>2784650for the easiest kind of ferrata (it's k1 difficulty maybe? the lowest possible) you don't need equipment, only lots of concentration. i say this because even if it looks like a ladder, the metal things you hang on to are very slippery and can be very treasonous, and the smallest mistake can be fatal obviouslyand obviously you need to be in a decent shape and used to doing scrambling in the mountains and so on, you shouldn't just jump onto it with no gear and no guide if all you ever done is hiking
Now that the dust is beginning to settle, which one is superior for the true outdoorsman?
>>2772148This show sucked ballz>>2771988Dude they are everywhere at this point. They are ten times worse than Chinese tourists. Also they dont even fucking hike they walk about 10 minutes up the trail and as soon as it gets hard they turn around. Never seen them on any difficult trails. I thought the chinese were bug people indians genuinely deserve the hate they get>>2772208Its not shhh every white dude with a jeep or camper knows about it. Go anywhere in Utah thats BLM u will see the whole fucking desert/shrubland areas between mountains covered in trailers
>>2783665>American menIts to prevent the unsavory types and tourists who would trash it. I would love to have a libertarian society but America is a multi cultural hell hole so no
For most places, the forest service cares significantly less about you showing up and sleeping on their land for a weekend.
>>2771972The NPS really get their panties in a bunch when hikers cut switchbacks or go off-trail. They really take it personally when you ditch their precious trails, even briefly: https://gearjunkie.com/endurance/sunseri-fkt-grand-teton-chargesI've never had issues with any other agency (federal, state, or otherwise) but have gotten chewed out by national park rangers on multiple occasions. And it's not like I spend a lot of time in national parks or monuments either. Less than 1% of my total outings are in those places.
>>2784738>when hikers cut switchbacks or go off-trailMaking cuts in a trail is not the same as bushwacking or really going off trail. In that case the trail exists but people are lazy and want to make the cut. Thats not the same as trully going off trail and bushwacking- which is allowed.But they do want you to follow the rules. in the case you posted, the switchback was sectioned off and signs telling people not to make the cut. This douchebag decided the rules didnt apply to him in his chase for personal glory. He then posted his arrogance and selfishness on his social media so the NPS decided to make an example of him.
Could be anywhere in Aus but particularly NSW.My votes for far south Coast/ snowy mountains
>>2783506there are a few empty towns/settlements along disused train tracks if you are into that kind of thing
>>2783884Hmm that does sound interesting, whereabouts?
Literally anywhere that isn't the far west. Bridle track and that area, anywhere in the mountains, Capertee, Barrington, and anywhere along the coast. The state is absolutely based for outdoors aside from the bullshit nat parks fees.
>>2783926along disused train tracks, i just said where
Yalwal and danjera dam are breathtaking.
Huts made Mostly of Natural material. nails, rope and tarps okay
>>2770666>Build kammi>Call it reconstructed mesolithic round house
>>2770446
>>2776995phone decided to play ball now for some unknown reason.I've made a lot more progress on it but got no photos.
>>2776995spent the last few days there moving the large rock in the foreground of this photo, it must weigh somewhere around 250kg. I moved it by levering it up with my entrenching tool and adding rocks under it, got it way up and moved it forwards with log rollers and more leverage untill it is now the footpath in the doorway, which is about 2 feet above the ground level. I also intend to make some small steps up to it, watch this space for photos, or if the thread dies, I will start the new huts thread.I even managed to put in a long piece of crystalline stone, similar to a basalt column (although i am pretty certain it is not basalt by the colour) as one of the gate posts at the entrance, i thought it was never going to "set" against all the steep angles of stone where I wanted to put it, but after one or two attempts it found a spot and locked in so solid I was really amazed.can't wait to get back out and work on it. more photos to come.
>>2782760crazy how the same style of architecture is found in europe, asia, africa and north america all at the same time
/out/ tourist here, but it seems like an appropriate place to askWhat's a good, cheap flashlight?
>>2765726The Sofirn SC31 Pro is a pretty good choice. It's rechargeable via USB-C and has a lockout mode. 2000 lumens on turbo. Uses a 18650 lithium battery. $43 on Amazon.
>>2784471Pic related.
>>2765726Last time I went kayak camping the only flashlight I brought was a Maglite Solitaire single AAA battery LED flashlight. It's as bright as you'll ever need. Supposedly lasts for 1 hour on 1 AAA. I don't hike at night. Only thing I need it for is to take a piss or something like that. I bring an extra battery just in case. But I really think a lot of people overestimate just how much flashlight they need. I went on a 100 mile hike a decade ago, brought a flashlight that on the dim setting could go for like 3 days straight or something. I used it for a grand total of maybe 10 minutes for the whole hike.
>>2765903>Long time Olight fanboy after seeing their pistol light take a 9mm and still work>Weird desire for a UV light>Also like lasers because lasers>Pull the trigger on a limited edition Arkfeld with a green laser and warm white light>Like a month later the Arkfeld Pro comes out and it's everything I wantedI swear to god those fucks watch and wait for me to spend money on something then release the better version I would have bought instantly immediately after. They did the same thing when I bought a Baldr and then released the Baldr S.
>>2779910NU25 had no dim mode. Automatic fail. The only problem with the "classic" is it's black, because Millennials don't like to stand out or have practical gear like a fucking headlamp you can find in the fucking dark
what did your father and grandfather teach you and what do you wish they had
>>2781954Haha same.
>>2781809Out related my dad has taught me nothing, but he has taught me a lot about life Out of my two grandfathers, my dad's dad has been pretty low-energy as long as I have been around and we haven't interacted much. I guess you could say he taught me to play card games(the non-poker ones), but that was mainly my grandma. He spends most of his time watching nascar and gunsmoke. My other grandpa, mom's side, has taught me the majority of the /out/ stuff that I know. He's basically the only relative I could rely on to take me camping, take me to the range, etc. Much less chill guy than my dad though lol. He got me involved in reenacting stuff as well.
It's been a long time so I probably have forgotten some things but my grandfather taught me how to start a fire, how to water plants, we went mountaineering in the balkans together, so "how to climb mountains", for example walking up sideways, and doing very small steps on steep hills. He still goes to the mountains every year well into his 90s, bless him.
(by plants I mean planting and taking care of vegetable plants and fruit trees)
My dad told me he loved me once. Fucking prick.
Let's talk about /out/ hygiene How do you wash ? How do you wipe your ass ?
Culo clean bidet (from the front) and nothing else. People who use wet wipes should be culled because you are dumb and litter your bullshit everywhere
>>2782349in open water
>>2782515Yeah but now you have lukewarm bacteria filled water and other dude has a bit of boiling water. Oh and fire.
>>2782349I wipe with toilet paper, that's it really
>>2782948yeah I'm gonna need those so my bf and I can have sex
>want to learn how to start hiking and enjoy nature>you need health insuranceholy fuck lmao, fuck this hobby.
>>2784489Who doesnt have health insurance?>>2784540>many Americans reject insurance>92% of the US has health insurance
>>2784489They probably got sued once because they saved someones life by calling for (expensive) help.
>>2784489>start hiking and enjoy nature>you need health insurancebut you dont. you need health insurance to take the class. nothing is stopping you from hiking and enjoying nature and learing about it without a class.
>how to hike>1:start walk at start point>2:walk>3:walk>4:turn around>5:walk >6: walk>7: end up back at start pointcongrats you hiked
>>2784489I don't think this club is for people just starting out hiking. You don't usually just jump into peak bagging.
My dick rock collection is growing.
>>2769501I've seen this. You just doxed yourself
what about when you find hentai on a rock
bump for most interesting thread on the board
It's not called dick rocks but kidney stones and you all need to see a doctorBut from now one i will to look for pp rocks on hikes
>>2776027That’s a beauty!
>but muh fourteenersElevation is a useless metric. Jut is all that matters
>>2784455Huh I didn't even know New York had mountains west of the Catskills. I'm curious about checking them out.
>>2784450>it don't mean butt if it ain't got that jut
>>2784467>I didn't even know New York had mountains west of the CatskillsThe Southern Tier and Finger Lakes are hilly but not mountainous by any stretch. The most interesting features in Central-Western NY are the lakes, waterfalls, gorges, caverns, rock cities, and lakeshore bluffs. Lots of fossils and arrowheads scattered about too.
I live at like 1,000’ elevation, and can run up the mountains when I’ve visited the whites.I am gasping for air on every climb when I visit Colorado for 14ers
>>2784482I'm jutting it now, commissar.
How do I make sure that my out trips will have nobody else? I want that feeling of isolation from the world. This will be the tallgrass prairie in Oklahoma.Do I wait till below freezing temps like 20F?Tips on bison appreciated too.
>>2784094Catalinaisland,,,Had, a freeroaming herd of Bison.,,,,hiking back from Parsons landing,,Bullbison dust bathing,,, jumpover wood fence,,,,dash up behind, RUB HIS BUTT!!!,,,superuff woolike brillo pad.,,bison Flails at being raped!, madash leap over fence!,grab my pack and hikeout,,,,bison deathstare><><><,,,2 dayslateread paper,"hiker attacked by bison near parsons,was just walking along when Slamed from behind,not hurt thanks to pack, but bison stood there while girfriend crys",,,,they movedall the bison to closed area.,,,,,sorry,,mybad.
>>2784094Your best bet is Tuesday-thursday in temps below 50 and over a mile out. Following all that in SD ive found myself completely alone with the only sound being the occasional plane.
My town singlehandedly resurrected European bison population, our forestry are Chad, i periodically have to let the heard cross the road while driving, they come out the forest after harvest to eat corn cobs and freshly planted wheat farmers get compensated for damages, when i was little bison came up to the window of my grandparents house to eat apples in the orchard and little me had a chance to pet one. Bison and wolves sometimes wonder into the town while following the river. Nazis wanted to resurrect the Aurochs and other megafauna here
>>2784128frankie?
>>2784223It seems like South Dakota is growing in population. Is it getting crowded there?
What exactly happens in Iowa?
>>2784328Border lol, I'm a little retarded
>>2784329aren’t we all
>>2784328Cool. I was the anon you replied to and just so happened to be checking the thread now. Last week, I went on a fishing trip in the Driftless, not South Pine. I caught *2 rainbows and 0 bass.
>>2783781meant to say corn
>>2783830>Idaho>Underrated10 years too late buddy. The population is booming there
you guys got any pictures of instructions like rope knots, traps, basic shelters, scavenger stuff, home made rope, water purifiers stuff like that
>>2784190You can't just be an autistic faggot and then ask me for pictures of my stump. You should really take me out for dinner first.
>>2784190he just has savant syndrome
>OP: Hey I need info>Retards: go read a book>Anon: posts images that are probably ripped from old books/otherwise identical to what you would find in a book>Retards: reeeee!!!do you think that reading off paper is superior to reading off a screen or something?
>>2783729>images on MY image board?
>>2784562those infographics are useless considering you tards are gonna start posting about your gayass $400 minitable and $3000 worth of gear that you use once a year in your reddit tier 3 day outing on public land with phone signal and running water restrooms not even a mile away.everyone that goes outside can see right through your gayshit. Half of you tards dont even know how to properly start a fire without something like a butane torch or lighter or lighter fluid.Maybe start with that before learning to carve furniture?
What state, or part of the planet checks all the boxes?>Great fishing>Mountains (rucking hiking exploring camping hunting etc)>beaches (fishing shelling kayaking etc)>rivers/creeks/ponds (freshwater fishing kayaking etc)>woods/forests (hiking camping hunting etc)>fossils & gems/cool stones and rocks>caves>not full of niggers like in the south (NC coulda been it) or annoying soifolk like Oregon/Washington/California>plenty of undeveloped land>weather that allows for enjoying these things, but also a true winterAlternatively what place do YOU choose which may have different criteria than mine above, and why?
>>2780584>Alternatively what place do YOU choose which may have different criteria than mine above, and why?I like Appalachia. Everything is so green and alive and if you go on a cloudy day and there's been some rain recently the waters rush and it's a lot of fun. The fishing is ok, they stock most the streams, but building railroads through every holler and along every creek changed the course of the rivers and dried up their micro-feeder streams.The only beaches are on man-made lakes, but the water is warm (compared to a river) and clean.The forests are a mix of icky brushy scrub where they logged and then it caught fire, but there's small patches of second and old growth where you can see the true potential.>>fossils & gems/cool stones and rocksthere's nice rock formations you can have sheer cliffs of sandstone that you can get up on, under and next to. If you find an area where coke-making was prominent you can find a lot of crumbled brick, slag, and other rocks/metallic materials lining the old roadbeds. And, unlike say Alaska and Patagonia, it's not a world-famous attraction so it won't be too crowded outside of the most popular things.
>>2780563New Zealand. It’s fucking great here. Depending on the weather I can decide to surf, whitewater kayak, tramp, rock climb, or ski, and be doing it between 5min and an hour from home.
>>2780563Idaho
>>2780563>What state, or part of the planet checks all the boxes?I haven't ever been to a place that ticks off all the criteria you've mentioned. However the closest thing that comes to mind is Sweden. I've never really traveled outside of Europe, but their nature is amazing, fishing is great and if you don't live in any big cities the chances of seeing any nig nogs are absolutely 0.>Alternatively what place do YOU choose which may have different criteria than mine above, and why?I'd choose Romania because the climate is just so great nowadays. It is always sunny, even in winter and the outdoors.... Is just incomparable with most of Europe. The demographic collapse of this country has made it so that more and more people leave especially the remote parts, so nature is taking over.I can not count the amount of abandoned villages I have explored there. That little country has it all really, granted it is rather densely populated bit that problem will fix itself in the coming decades. The Carpathians are just a joy to hike on, not to steep not too hilly you can reach almost any place on game trails and backroads. That'd be my pick.
>>2784505>or annoying soifolkUnfortunately NZ fails here, also cost of living is ridiculous.