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Hello /out/ it's me again. Maybe it is time for another abandoned mine exploration thread. I have posted these for over a decade; this will be the last one. AMA. I'll answer what I can. I hope you enjoy.
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I have some shafts near me but I'm worried about a partial collapse near the entrance. Is that generally common?
Local rumor is that the feds blasted them all to keep folks out. Easier than just putting bars up.

>>2858198
I've also seen a few cross markers out there, though I somewhat doubt they are burial markers due to their positioning on a cliffside.

So far I've got:
>60M of climbing rope
>A headlamp and high power flashlight
>multiple batteries
>A backpack
>4 times the food and water needed for the trip
>A spare set of waterproof clothing
>A multi tool/knife
>whistle

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>>2865955
> I have some shafts near me
I bet you do. Faggot.
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>>2865955
There is a lot to unpack here.

The type of ground the mine was dug in makes a huge difference, unstable ground vs. hard rock.
Many mines have grave markers that are not burial sites. those were for guys that died in the mine that they couldn't get to the bodies.
Rope is almost pointless if you don't have a harness that allows you to ascend and decent the voids. No point in a whistle either.

The best advice I can give you is stay out stay alive. If you can't do that, then make smart decisions. There were zero safety persuasions when these men dug the mines and going in 100 years later mean it is even more risky.
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What is the most dangerous thing that happend to you while you were exploring?
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>>2866157
One of my first times using rope to gain entrance down a vertical shaft mine. We roped down a 300 ft vertical shaft and explored the drifts. on my way back up part of my t-shirt got pulled into the croll. this is the part of the climbing harness that latches on the rope. your single point of contact attaching you to the. rope. I was stuck on rope 250 ft up in a mineshaft with my shirt and rope seized in my climbing gear. A stupid and easily preventable mistake on my part, in a hobby that doesn't typically forgive stupidity,

I broke my ankle while exploring. Just bad luck on that one. Had to have surgery to remove bone fragments.

Climbing an old wooden miner's ladder, about 50 feet up still have at least another 50 to get to the drift tunnel. Headlamp shorts out. I had to climb back down in the dark. I now always keep 2 headlamps on my helmet.

Saw on old piece of newspaper in a drill hole. Grab the corner and start trying to pull it out. Realize it is an old stick of dynamite that didn't go off. Another one of my stupid mistakes

just to name a few.

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>Late Tuesday afternoon, with the subtlety of a wrecking ball and the morality of a foreclosure notice, the Trump administration announced the most devastating attack on the U.S. Forest Service in the agency’s 121-year history. Not a budget cut. Not a policy shift. Not a “reorganization.” An execution.

https://www.hatchmag.com/articles/trump-administration-orders-dismantling-us-forest-service/7716263

Are you good, Ameribros?
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>>2865833
You don't belong alive retard nigger
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>>2865813
>melanin flavored skitzo babble
post hands.
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>>2865880
You *definitely* don't belong at the parks if you're this mentally unstable.
Cope.
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>>2865341
Alway rember da ganite mountain hotpockets
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>>2865276
Fewer chuds, chud.

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Does this mean no more comfy fire watch jobs?
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>>2865945
i didn't lose my pension
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>>2865989
if you have to ask, you don't need to know
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>>2866030
i have to ask and i need to know.
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>>2866048
you need to go back
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>>2866176
take your meds, retard.

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>>2867264
I've been enjoying fabric grow bags way more than I thought. I don't have any issue with having to water often and I'm wondering if it's cause I got tan ones since they might heat up and evaporate less. I'm a brainlet and shitposted my way through chemistry though so idk. they look way nicer than the black ones even if they get some water stains. we'll see if this feeling lasts through summer though


>>2867292
Are you talking about the 5 gal buckets? I'm not one to care about plastic leaching but I've heard the bigger issue is these potentially only lasting 1 or 2 seasons in really sunny areas which would piss me off considering I'd also have to drill holes and shit. Imo I wouldn't use buckets unless you get them for free or really cheap because they literally cost the same as a decent plastic pot that's actually made to be left in shit weather for a few years (or a growbag).

Also the issue if you get them for free then becomes the fact that you don't know what shit someone put in that unless you got it from a restaurant or something. I've heard different fast food chains sometimes sell pickle buckets for slightly cheaper than home depot buckets if you still want to go that route.

If a 5 gal nursery pot is actually more expensive than 2-5 bucks ea., you should check actual nurseries or nursery supply stores online. If you live in an urban-adjacent area, I recommend sites like freecycle where people give out free shit cause they're always posting pots like that where I live
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>>2867264
>fabric grow bags
They dry out like crazy in my climate compared to plastic pots, would not recommend anywhere below 45 degrees North

>Thoughts on spray painting nursery pots to a lighter (nonblack) color?
You can buy white pots if you look hard enough for them but good idea regardless if you have high heat
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>>2867292
>How much shit will leach from them, compared to “proper” planters?
You shouldn't be using any container that was previously used to hold chemicals or was treated by chemicals.
Some plants like sunflowers, lettuce, mustard, tobacco etc take up heavy metals in their flesh when they grow. If you're not using all-natural growing pots and fertilizer, that crap can find its way into your body.
This is the reason why wine and whiskey half-barrels are kino. They're made from untreated natural wood. No chance of copper preservatives, chromium or alkaline getting into your food.
Just because something is made with wood doesn't mean its safe either. If you build a planter made out of deck lumber then that shit has been stained and treated to prevent it from rotting. Always buy all-natural for organic gardening.
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>>2867287
>>2867313
I may have to consider investing in some grow bags then. I'm mostly talking indoor plants and I live down in Florida so it's normally hot all the time. I'm worried about heat retention yeah. I'll repot and try to save some of my current ailing plants (from generic pots with poor/no drainage) and then maybe get some bags afterward for a more permanent home.
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>>2867264
you know how those of us with green houses usually white wash em with a lime and diatomaceous earth wash, you probably could do the same to the black pots if they have enough texture, that should help with the heat absorption without doing something toxic
might work good if you add elmers glue to.
just a thought I had

Any recommendations to get into bushcrafting? I have no clue as to how to do basic things like start a fire or set up a tent or a hammock. I really want to be good at it by the end of this year. I have only been going on short hikes, but I want to feel confident in my survival skills. Books, videos, ect. Would be highly appreciated.
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>>2863781
That is the most uncomfortable "bed" I've ever seen lmao. If you're gonna pack the rest of that shit out, at least pack hammock or a bed roll. Plus logs like that with your body heat will likely attract insects to you at night
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>>2863988
Take meds.
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>>2863988
you retards claim shit like this every year. pashol nahui
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>>2863783
Based survivalist.
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>>2863781
The Boy Scouts of America Handbook 9th edition unironically.

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I wanted to fish today and this hognose wouldn't let me get to my shit and it weirdly blew air at me and kinda jumped towards me at one point and now I'm annoyed
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>>2865229
the fangs that have said venom are so far back in its throat its nearly impossible to get envenomated by them.
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>>2865407
i dont. id argue no one needs inner monologue
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>>2865220
Very cute.
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>>2865253
For most snakes, no, but for a hognose? Absolutely.

Next time you see one play dead try to put it back on its belly. It'll look at you out of the corner of its eye, roll back on its side or back, then stick its tongue out as if to say "no no I'm REALLY dead, like in the cartoons". Shit is genuine hilarious and it's something I've seen toddlers do.
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>>2865898
Sounds like something a hylic would say.

Anyone every done the trail? Any advice?
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>>2865913
im going this year sobo of course july 17. Should be very easy to be alone, im not sociable either, its very easy to be to yourself on any trail really, its also really easy to find a group of hobos on heroin basically just always go sobo and its very unlikely youll find druggies as nobo is always more social so thats where they would congregate
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>>2866004
Never gave any thought to doing sobo. Might have to consider it. Could start later in the year too
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>>2865988
Won't be very funny when a forest janny hits you with a $300 fine. You get checked several times throughout the Sierras
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>>2865904
i agree with >>2865906. the two biggest trails in the us have become way, waaay too accessible to broke ass crackheads and losers. if you must do them, be aware of how close you are to trail towns and treat them like an open meadow in a war zone. pass quickly and quietly
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>>2866040
>>2865988
You'll get checked in more than just the Sierras and you can/will be denied entry and booted out. Just do the permit lottery. Don't be edgy

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I bought a ferrino sitesi 2 tent I plan to start on a 1000km thru hike next week honestly I would not buy this tent again, I wanted something were the inner was all mosquito net so I could see the stars in it, and the fly was a separate peice, kinda disappointed
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>>2865931
Yes that's it, I will have to settle for looking thru the doro, it will be fine, eight now I'm scrambling to try and oightne my pack before I leave, not haveing much sucess
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>>2865771
Here is the tent actually set up, I'm at the trail head and will start seriously tomrow morning
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>>2866019
Wtf why arent more tents like this
Good luck niqqa
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>>2866021
>Wtf why arent more tents like this
Idk it looks goofy from the side, their is very little space in here, it traps alot of heat and I feel like a strong wind would blow it over, I got 1000km to go I will make a new thread for the hike probably tomrow when I get better pictures
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>>2866021
I know. It looks like a better version of my MontBell Hexagon.

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Do you like to look at things when you go /out/?
Show us your optics.
>monoculars
>binoculars
>scopes
>sunglasses too, I guess
>cases/carry systems
>cleaning and maintenance
>poorfag options

I have a Vortex 8x25 mono that I like to bring, but I regret not buying the 10x25. Binos are my old Nikon Travelite III 10x25.
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>>2865731
>How do I take birb pics without buying actual photo gear that's super expensive?
idk, get cheap, 2nd hand camera and telephoto lens?
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>>2865891
how about you don't answer a question with a question, faggot.
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>>2865941
how about you go suck you own dick?
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>>2865978
no, i won't because i'm not a faggot who wishes other men to do that to fuel some sick fetish
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>>2865731
You can get adapters that help line your phone up with your binoculars, but it's more common to digiscope through larger telescopes, like spotting scopes.
Getting the alignment just so is one part of it, the other is to hold it steady enough.
If you want to take good pictures, it's probably best to get a real camera. The good thing is, good cameras have been available for an alright price for a long while now. Buy used, buy yesteryear's model, or the model before that. I still have my Canon 550D, and it takes perfectly alright pictures.

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>Go /out/
>Birdwatching or whatever
>Enjoying the forest / woods
>Pic related comes up to you
>No owner in sight
wat do?
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>>2865749
>>2865749
Most important: NEVER RUN AWAY (it triggers the hunting programs of the dog. I've shown it multiple times with my (very nice) dog (a shepperd of average size), each time it runs toward me to catch my hand).
You MUST appear as dominant, that is to stay calm, showing you are in control. Once a man showed so much he was frightened by my dog that this one was also frightened (fortunately, my dog just made a jump to run away and did not attack, but it depends on the dog...)
If the dog walks towards you, continue your travel, and when he is too close, just turn to walk towards him. If he runs towards you, you must run towards him.
If its a pack of dogs running towards you ... always run toward them! (it has saved me more than once!). Never let them circle you (in this case: chose a dog and run toward him to attack him, you'll break the circle).
If you have a stick, use it to make big circles around you, to scare them away, it helps.
And if the dog (or pack of dogs) is immobilized, just make a big circle around to pass them by (it's a universal sign you respect their territories). Of course, if that does not work, do what I said above.
And for last chance security, have something in your hand to give to the dog to bite, and keep pulling it (as if you were playing with a stick with the dog).
Rem: I'm used to meet pack of street dogs, some nice, some I've made friends with, some agressives. Most do not want to attack me, but my dog.
Last point: always have treats in your pocket, to give them: it works incredibly well! I've made friends with some aggressive street dogs this way.
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>>2866366
Maybe you should also be euthanized because you have strong opinions against being abducted
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>>2865749
>be me
>go /out/
>in a long trail connecting two villages
>see a big dog without a collar running freely through the grain fields
>it notices me but keeps running until it bypasses me
>returns slowly behind me just being curious
>I face it and just stand up looking at it
>it just gives me it back and return being a free dog in the wild
Most animals are harmless if they don't feel a danger from you, in the end they know that fighting is a sacrifice and if it will not prevent a greater loss, then it's meaningless.
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>>2865987
>>2866010
I used to run daily on a trail but I stopped because retards will unleash their shitty dogs and dogs being dogs will follow you and attack you if you run, and I need to focus more on avoiding dog shit than enjoying being /out/. And this is also in the city. If you don't hunt, have a herd, or a have a place that needs protection, there's no need to have a dog, you're just abusing it in your apartment, and it will shit and pee all over your house and try to fuck your children.

They should enforce a dog license where only people who can control their dogs and take care of them and their shit can own dogs. But most people will take huskies and breeds bred to work and run in the fields and force them in a small apartments instead of having children. And many dog breeds shouldn't exists, like Chihuahuas and shitbulls.

Like the anons said, I don't hate dog, but I hate what retarded humans turned this animal into. The best and most virtuous dogs I saw were hunting dogs, and the most retarded and useless ones were those toy dogs.
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>>2866440
Based dog master.
>And if the dog (or pack of dogs) is immobilized, just make a big circle around to pass them by (it's a universal sign you respect their territories). Of course, if that does not work, do what I said above.
You mean if they are somewhere don't pass near them?

The nature is harsh, dry, not welcoming, the people are very dumb and either friendly if they can't actually help you, annoying when they want to help you ged rid of all cash in your wallet or rude when they don't care for your existence.

Frequent interaction with the wild animals is what made it worthwhile though.
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>>2860098
I spent some time in Iten, Kenya and Kaptagat (also Kenya) in the early 2010s on the invitation of one of my coaches friend. Bit of a friend of a friend situation. The primary focus for me was running, those two cities are where some of the world's best distance runners live and train, but the /out/ was also amazing. Hundreds of miles of beautiful trails, red rock areas that reminded me of time in Utah, not as much water or wetlands though. The people there were also very kind, maybe it was just because I was there to learn from them or the athletes represented a higher caliber of individual than the ones you encountered, but I had a wonderful time across several trips there. I never transcended the talent I had as a mzungu, and I'm not sure such an experience would be as fulfilling for someone that doesn't run... but I would recommend Kenya to anyone wanting to visit the continent.
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>>2862992
The maintenance is too complicated.
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>>2860577
> Food isn’t very good and you’ll probably be taking a bucket shower though

No thanks.
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>>2860084
nice pictures OP. Wish you showed more of your set ups to share equipment and gear.
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>>2860084
>hiking in subsaharan
Pretty based. I was to Ghana and Kenya repeatedly, but that was always either for work and/or cooming/beaches. Doing /out/ shit there is ballsy, good fucking form, OP.

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Where do you think this is and what do you think of it? I took the picture a few weeks ago. It continues like this for miles even after all the windmills.
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>>2865893
not that guy. norwegian landscape is easily noticed, specially for one who live in it.
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>>2865893
I live in middle norway along the coast and it looked quite similar to the nature here, but not quite the same. Whereabouts is it?

Also the windmills. Not so many windmills here to ruin the view, but so many floating salmon fish farms riddled along the coast. I hate them.
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>>2865907
Ah I see. It's very close to Egersund. The area is known for this penis formation too far from where the picture was taken. Someone cut it down a few years ago but the town council put it back up again
>>2865901
Yes with the wind in this area it can get pretty cold. I'm gonna wait until late april/may probably
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>>2865867
Looks like somewhere in Badlands, North Dakota.
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>>2865943
no

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Post your pets and anything animal related doing /out/ shit. Interesting stories are appreciated as well. Bonus points for doggies.
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Doggy playing in the grass
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>>2862039
I don't have a dog, but I want to get one in the future. I ride a horse, so I can post about my ride a month ago.

>ride on a pretty trail by a small river that was raging during a flood last year
>mare stops a few meters from the cut bank and don't want to go any further
>fine, we can turn around and go home
>few days later went biking there
>that part of the trail was gone, it sunk into the river

But this wasn't the first time the horse didn't want to go on. A few years ago, we rode past an abandoned farm building in the forest. There was an old, beat up car and a broken couch, and the air was filled with a terrible smell of paint. The horse was frightened and didn't want to go on. I thought he was scared by some noises or that smell. Later that day, people said that police cars were there and that some kids had found a hanged man.
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I miss my little fuckface, she would follow me into the woods like a dog
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Here's Jack
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>>2865922
He looks cold

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/out/ with dog
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>>2860517
What
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>>2857694
Is this near Big Sur?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqqKFGSI3GQ
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this is Jack
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>>2865924
Does he ever hit the road?

what kind of baby animal is this?
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>>2864522
Bunniiiieeees
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>>2864844
I KNOW that's a foal. I can see the maresonality.
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>>2864522
rabbit update
they are gettbig
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Clarice had twins with Tyrone this year. White ram, black ewe.
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>>2865714
What are ewe doing here?


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