humiliation ritual
>>2868900If bears are THIS much of a common problem, seems like it might be time for the hunters to step in...
>>2871370it's about calibrating your senses to nature. humans are the loudest scent that reeks of extremely high calorie dense food, so you don't want bullshit animals like mice, squirrels, coons, etc., chewing through your shit to eat your lip balm or toothpaste, it's best to take smell-proofing your site seriously. we can't smell it nearly as much so it makes sense to put everything into a fumigation bag, inside of a hard plastic container that requires a two-digit IQ to open.
>>2871370>too many people visit a place and store food poorly and leave food trash>bears be bears and forage and scavenge and find human food>bears develop habits to look for human camps for food>human-bear food encounters increase>this is the bears' fault and they must be killed
>>2870101The bear hang wasn't developed until the 1960's thougheverbeit
>>2872210The counterbalance method was invented in the 1960s. Hanging food caches to keep it out of the reach of bears has existed for thousands of years but was mostly used for food you were leaving and would want to come back to, only in the 20th century would you do it if you were staying in the area, because before then you’d just kill the offending bear and now have even more food.
>European StarlingsWhat do you guys do to get rid of them? I just put on imagerelated & shoot them, they don't really notice it when shaded (or care if theres dead starlings all over the ground either).The suit is a bit annoying though, so are there any other good camos that they can't see easily? Do standard turkey/duck hunting sets work just as good? I know certain birds see different colors and other weird stuff, so I won't wanna get something that stands out like a beacon to them.
>>2868545midwit take tbqh, you sound like a redditor
>>2868547nah he's right and you are the only midwit here, you couldn't even come up with a good retort, you just started spewing buzzwords like a redditor
>>2868690even midder-wit take tbqh, you sound like a twitter user
>>2868506you're joking but I think birdshot might kill guptacels
based 2 retards arguing thread
>put your finger on a random place ANYWHERE on the map>there WILL be at least a couple of high quality trails leading there>there WILL be bus stops everywhere around both the destination and any point throughout the whole route>there WILL be a train station or even multiple of them in any town you might pass through>continuously maintained trail markers, signposts and even resting benches and roofed stops literally everywhere>no dangerous wildlife>no dangerous non-whites>no crazies with guns>dirt cheap and super available yet still comfy public transportHow can the rest of the world even compete?This is almost hilariously embarrasing. WTF are the rest of you retards doing? At least pretend you're trying to keep up, jeez.
>>2871737Europoors seething and coping about the degrading life of a europoor.
>>2871740>degradingThat implies they had a higher quality of life at some point in time.They've been serfs since the beginning of recorded history. The internet just gave them comparative benchmarks on the world stage to realize it.
>>2871236>in a shitty shedbut enougn about your vox-laden concrete shoebox prison cell apartment, missys
>>2872126almost three centuries and you guys still haven't gotten over your daddy issues towards Europe
>>2872222The people with a spine left your shithole and when you wouldnt leave us alone WE KILLED YOU.
>"backcountry" camping requires reservation and designated campsite
>>2869046I dunno. I camp in Yellowowstone back country a lot and Im fine with designated spots. There's always a fire pit, bear pole etc..., they are always in the best spots where you want to camp anyways. its a small price to pay literally and figuratively lol. I never have issues reserving what/when i want but I never go in summer. A certain percentage of their sites are first come first serve walk-in reservation. but if I dont like it the NF is just around the corner...
All of the backcountry I've done has been without reservation, in completely empty land, with no wardens (because it isn't in a park), and I could and did camp anywhere I wanted. And I never ran into anyone out there. Sounds like you're just doing safe and boring camping with more steps.
Oh no!!! You mean they don't just allow hundreds of jeets to filter there way into dangerous backcountry, shit up the place, make a complete mess, and then require rescue? You mean they actually force you to camp at specific spots so that people don't completely fuck the ecosystem over time by plopping down their giant tents and garbage on fragile plant life?!Wow, it's amazing how people from /out/ actually hate nature!
>>2869046what's the original of that image?
>>2869046Don't want to deal with permits, don't go to popular areas.In the PNW there is tons and tons of national forest land where you can backcountry camp wherever you want. Then there are a few specific areas that require permits because they are very popular and would be overcrowded otherwise. National parks here are a bit worse and typically require a backcountry permit for any backcountry camping, but if you are not going to a super popular area you will have no issue obtaining one. They are mainly just for the national park to keep track of you.
>sockshow do i not have these things turn into sweat sieves while dicking about?i'm sure i have to get better socks, but what brand doesn't just get tons of holes after a little use?
>>2870659>>2870660>>2870694wool, got itthank you anons>>2870697i don't know whats up >>2870731's ass, but during summer i'll wear water shoes when outits closeer to going barefoot (which i generally prefer), and it lets me wander streams all i want
>>2870697I've hiked 4000m peaks in sandals it's not that bad depending on the terrain
Darn tough are a meme. Buy wool socks from Costco they're like $5 for 3 pairs, and are the same quality as darn toughs, I have both because I fell for the meme.
>>2870657if youre just someone who sweats a ton theres nothing you can do but try to ignore it. i sweat more than anyone ive ever met, im always totally drenched at the end of the day when backpacking. wool socks dont do shit. ill swap my socks and underwear at camp but no use in doing it on the trail when theyre going to be soaked through again in 20 minutes.
>>2870732I don't know if they make them but linen would be nice, too
any other suggestion for hoboing around in good weather with minimal setting up hassle and weight? other than pic relatedmust have mosquito net and be light (pic related is about 450 g/1000 lbs)
>>2868369They have to imagine it, because it’s not something they’ll ever experience. A severe lack of utility is another reason to not buy the larpsack.
>>2867259stealthcamping is a thing thoughbeit
>>2868369for just 300g less you can put a hammock up, and sleep off the ground like a real human
>>2870921Ah yes, because people only camp in heavily forested areas
Bivy bags are a meme. Condensation, no space inside, not good for side sleepers, if it rains or snows you gotta carry a tarp and pitch it so extra time to setup and weight. Buy a tent like the Xmid 1, weighs the same, if not less than most bivy+ tarp setups, easy to pitch, space inside, vestibules for gear.
And if I got a job, there would be no way to disappear for a few months. Therefore I need to make things as cheap as possible and probably find some short term jobs around the continent.How can I do it? I wanna see all those mountains, nature, cities and castles.
>>2872043You lack the necessary funds. You need to save more.
>>2872043Couchsurfing and hitchhiking will save you lots of money, that leaves food and paid entrancesI don't know how to hobomaxx but this will be your life>find some short term jobsNot sure how realistic this is as a tourist
>>2872043Heard from several sources (non-Europeans) that you will need at least twice that in order to live on existentialist minimum. Visa will be a pain in the ass and cause logistical issues that will ramp up the costs.
>>2872133I don't need a visa
>>2872043Interrail in the summer and work oddjobs whereever you go (picking fruit, bartending at festivals, etc). Festival organisers often have platforms where you can sign up to work for cash for a couple days.
6.5/10>mediocre hiking trails>great paddling trails>South part is overcrowded and dull compared to rest of the continent >North is slightly better but fuck ton of blackflys and mosquito during the summer
Absolute best state/region on earth for /out/, nothing really compares. >Unlimited outdoor potential for any sport.>At least 6 climate zones any time of year.>Can go surfing, rock climbing, hiking and skiing in the same day with around 2.5 hours drive time. >Best MTB trails, hiking, high Sierra, rock climbing, Mountaineering, Surfing, thousands of miles of backcountry dirt roads. >free camping everywhere. >Solitide everywhere within an hour of major populations even. >Fishing, hunting, a million lakes. Cons:>Too many liberals fucking everything up. >Price of admission.
8/10Bulgaria Oblast.The locals are just so damned nice. homemade fruit moonshine. Live and let live. No one gives a shit if you hunt or fish without a license. Or build a camp in the forest. No one leaves their known areas, meaning there's acres of free to use land, since the equivalent of 'state park cops' don't venture further than 5min from the nearest tavern of their area. gold panning is free to do. weirdly diverse looking scenic spots for such a small country.
>>2871677Lmao we'll trade you our weather any time
>>2869708Ontario has to be at least a 7 or 8, we have the best part of Lake Superior around Sleeping Giant and Pukaskwa. Bruce Peninsula might be the best part of Huron. Plus really good paddling routes and I know it's hard to get up there but we have the Hudson's Bay region with subarctic conditions.
10/10, we got almost every kind of terrain to camp in.
How do I deal with these giant fucking rapists? I’m snorkeling and swimming off of the west side of the ‘Big Island’ in Hawaii soon. I am worried I will encounter one of these fuckers and it will try to bite me. Im bringing a tourniquet just in case. Please share advice if you are familiar with this area or species. Thank you.
>>2868397Just stay aware of your surroundings. Maintaining eye contact will usually stop them from trying to take a bite. They’re nowhere near as aggressive as their reputation suggests. They are however not fussy about what they eat, so if they do attack you then they’re not just going to bite and spit you out like some other sharks
>>2868397Also that pic is a sand tiger which are harmless, actual tiger sharks have teeth that are much more horrific
>>2868397just stay home if you're so pussy about itno one here thinks twice about sharks
>>2868397shark attacks are wayyyyyy under reported. don't listen to that nonsense about "just don't look like their prey! they're not aggressive!" it's all bullshit. sharks attack for all kinds of reasons. curiosity, territory, anger, hunger, or just being in their way if they feel like it. the shark community really needs to realize there's a problem with under reporting and old cliches. people get attacked by sharks all the time, with nearly 50 percent of those cases being fatal. the requirement for something to be registered as a shark attack is that people have to have seen the shark. think about that one for a minute. the only registered shark attacks are from people that literally saw a shark bite a guy. consider what this does to the reporting of shark attacks. if you're smart, you stay the hell out of the water.
sharks are chill bros. its dolphins that will rape you.
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>>2872162Get a wagon anon 45 is super viable and is a great workout.
Anyone have experience with hand reel fishing? Is it just a meme? What's the advantage over a telescopic rod which is also portable/compact?
>>2872162Maybe get a gocart or something
NEW THREAD!!!>>2872194>>2872194>>2872194
>>2872162that's what a bicycle is for.
Sorry if I've just insulted your favorite /out/ location but a few months ago I made a thread with mountains captioned as Appalachian locations and nobody could tell something is wrong, even though one of the pics was from Czechia, others were from Poland and none was actually from Appalachia. To make things even worse, I had to stop myself from using the highest parts of Carpathians cause they just look too stunning to be Appalachia. Basically Appalachia looks like one of these mountain locations I visit because they're cheaper than ones with more dramatic landscape and if I wanted to go on holyday by plane, I certainly wouldn't choose Georgia (Appalachia) over Yosemite or Georgia (Caucasus).But maybe I'm wrong and someone who actually visited Appalachia can tell me why are they truly special?
I love my area of Appalachia. I bought 10 acres with a 2,000 sq foot house at a very reasonable price. My property is in an area that is mostly national forest and for that reason is very lightly populated. A 200 acre state wildlife sanctuary borders my western property line. Appalachia has a moderate climate, lush vegetation, abundant sunshine and rainfall. We have strong storms that bring heavy rain that quickly pass leading to sunny days. These strong passing storms provide us ample rain while allowing a high percentage of sun during the day. Portions of Appalachia are designated as temperate rain forest.Appalachia has a tremendous amount of freshwater streams and rivers enabling an abundance of fish and wildlife, including large game such as white tail deer, feral pigs and black bears.Appalachia also has a rugged, independent, even rebellious population. Appalachia's rugged terrain, moderate climate, abundant fresh water and game make it a perfect area for the guerrilla war fighter.There are many reasons that US Army Green Berets and Rangers retire to Appalachia. It is a place that calls people steeped in guerrilla warfare home.Picrel is my horse grazing in a sunlit pasture next to an Appalachian mountain lake 900 feet from his barn.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vrEljMfXYo
>>2871726>cant answer the questionWhy do you say things that are not true?
>>2871772you guys act so threatened by people enjoying appalachian hiking its not worth seriously engaging with you,
>>2871826I dont give a fuck where you recreate. In fact, I prefer you to stay back east. BUT I am threatened by falsehoods and lies. WHy do you have to make claims that are not true? WHy lie in order to make it seem like appalachians are superior somehow?
>>2871726It was the appalacian resident who posted about the rockies first
How do you brew coffee while /out/?
>put instant coffee in cup>pee in cup>drink>enjoy watching bear grills seethe from distance
I got one of these and you can make a really shitty pourover
>>2869234Correct
>>2869209This
>>2869207I dont.
im making a pizza and mushrooms would be good on it.
If you have to ask then no, the award is just not worth the risk at all, there are so many different types that look super similar to each other even specialists mess it up and fuck up, even if those were edible and you can grab a batch of those, edible and poisonous mushrooms can grow right next to each other, so it's easy to accidentally grab a fucked one while you're at it.
>>2869126they look to me like jumbo gyms which are not edible but cool nonetheless.
>>2871970the mushrooms that will kill you are in 99% of cases very distinctive and with a small amount of research can be differentiated between edible mushrooms. if you just do the bare minimum of research mushroom foraging is not that dangerous. most mushrooms if they are not edible will either just taste bad or maybe give you an upset stomach anyway
>>2872072Those are honeys, armillaria
>>2870912to be fair, neither does the average /out/ poster about most /out/ related things.
I planted three sisters, leafy greens, radishes, onions, garlic, potatoes, various berries, figs, apples, kiwis, grapes, and herbs. The trees I grew from seed 5 years ago are now large enough to shade my garden. I planted this year knowing that the cost of food in fall will be high enough to justify the extra work I have done this year. Diesel is now at record highs globally.
early frost pea various rhododendronsroma tomatoCherokee purple tomatohabanero and jalapeno peppersalready have a dozen various fruit trees and grapeslarge huckleberry grove in forest you specialize in what grows well on your property, and you aren't necessarily in control of that. i found that Italian plums have no natural pests in my area, so i doubled down on them. apples have plenty of pests (coddling moth, apple fly) and my neighbors don't control them on their trees, so I've had to use mesh bags.. remarkably effective but it is some work early in the season. we just love apples enough to do the work.
>>2868331Wow! Great thread OP.
>>2868331Im a poor apartmentfag, so i dont have my own property to have a personal garden. I do however have a state park very close by and i intend to guerilla garden there. Planning to just divide and transplant native wildflowers, sedges, shrubs and maybe even some trees so i can make like a little grove of all the native species i like.Anyone got some tips for me as i go about this?
just planted tomatoes yesterday and peppers tooi'm in a warm climate but did i plant too late? is planting season over?
>>2868371This.
Will ticks climb up this?
>>2871711My neighborhood used to be chigger-free. Now, they've overrun the place. We're getting out before property values slip further.
>>2871644there's a solution for everything
>>2871589Back to /pol/
>>2871589based
>>2871516Yes they will. More importantly snakes and whatever else are going to crawl right over the top of that tiny plastic sheet. You're going to get bit by every mosquito in the area too.
