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I really like doing vie ferrate and I'm lucky to live in a place full of them. The problem is: I'm extremely scared of heights. As soon as I go above 5 meters of height my legs start shaking, my palms get sweaty, I start hyperventilating etc. It's always very tough to get it under control.
Any climbing anons out there scared of heights, how do you conquer it?
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Austrian mountaineer Kurt Diemberger dislikes via ferratas for that reason. He says they allow inexperienced climbers to gain too much altitude too quickly which can cause them to freak out and 'freeze'. I would start in an indoor climbing gym if I were you.
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Everyone is sick of tourists on the Garda.
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You aren't scared of heights, you're scared of falling
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>>2719779
Why are you doing via ferratas if you're so afraid of heights? You're ruining the experience for those of us who don't have those issues. Fuck off back to your basic bitch hiking trails, thx

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There are literally hundreds of attractive young women trying and quitting the AT right now, they need your help and motivation anon. Will you be there to save them in their time of need and to spur them onwards down the trail? Or will you let them suffer and quit shortly after the trailhead?
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>>2704978
I don't help women
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>>2714197
Universally proven false by the state of the world economic cycle and the dependence of third world nations on the US Dollar. Nigger.
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>>2708415
I assumed it was common sense to weigh down the flapping part of your tent but then again I also assume the average person isn't completely clinically retarded.
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>>2718817
im on the upper end of normal and socially anxious around strangers
but im certain i can get over it when im actually out there and have no internet or way to avoid talking to other people
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>>2719804
Same. Last year, I was being ignored left and right by women on a popular hike. One of them ended up injuring herself later on and I just laughed. Fuck women. The fewer I see in the outdoors, the better.

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what's your gaymen/entertainment setup when backpacking, /out/?
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>>2718801
Zoomers have been destroyed because they were raised almost exclusively by public education and media and had little contact with any sense of community, church, or even family. As a result they can only emulate what their screen and the jigaboos at school behave like. It's a generation of malibus most wanteds except even black people are gay as fuck now.
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>>2718802
That's melanated speak. We share some similarities because they also heavily reside in the South. But there's a few shades of difference.
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>>2718801
There's nothing exclusively, or even typically black about that line of text. "Miss me with" is the only part that comes close, and even then that's verbage widely used in the south. I've said it for at least 20 years; the term predates zoomers and contemporary nog-worship.

>>2718904
This shit was fucking eloquent. Well said.

>>2718720
>>2718721
All fair points, and I'm sorry if I was giving off STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE vibes; as I haven't heard anyone try to defend "stadium" country, I think we're all on the same page.

>>2718722
>It's like being into ICP
Overplayed your hand, outed this as bait. Listen, I'm not going to sit here and defend KISS. It's either for you or it isn't, and their influence and legacy speaks for itself at this point. What I do know is this, if you're on 4chan, and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivJZljEostE
^this doesn't make you happy, you don't belong.
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Maybe a deck of cards if I'm with someone otherwise nothing
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>>2716613
>>2716617
>KMM, 1-2U low power server (possibly on rails and with cable management arm), probably a UPS that's overspecced so that the battery lasts a while
>All stuffed in a 2-4 U plastic audio rack
Seems really bulky and loud.

My vote is the Catskills in NY. Hybrid cars parked all up and down every road. Thousands of fat guys in khaki shorts photographing trees. Loud black women chasing their screaming kids everywhere. Trail closure and no trespassing signs every 50 yards. Literal fucking security cameras at trailhead parking areas. I hope a fucking forest fire claims the whole region.
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>>2715029
packed places are packed regardless of coasts, dummy
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>>2712101
Definitely a shit show, but its redeeming qualities you mentioned are superb. Most of the problem is concentrated in emerald bay, zephyr cove, and sand harbor.

I don't think many places could even hold a candle to lake tahoe. No place has such access to the outdoor activities yet an incredible supply chain for everyday needs.
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>>2717398
yes
80% of the US lives east of the Mississippi
so east coast problem.
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>>2717868
This isn't remotely true but you east coast retards live in your own little world and I hope to god you stay there.
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>>2719278
>Maroon Bells, Colorado
>Zion, Utah
You can’t drive inside either of those parks anymore (the dead ends roads that go into the centers of the parks towards the hiking trails, at least), you have to take the free bus service or be on a bicycle

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I'm a week into this, fuck boys I'm out of shape. I'm stopping to sleep every 7-8 miles or so, about half the distance these 'stages' list. At this rate I should finish by mid April. It's winter so anything useful is closed, how the fuck do people live out here with no services. So far the weather is good, only one snowstorm but I got lucky and found shelter 20 minutes after it started. I should have brought better shoes, maybe I'll get some at the next Decathlon.

This is a reminder that even us lethargic types can get up and walk a little each day. But fuck these hills, is this whole fucking trip uphill? I swear I walk up 80% of the time. I got poles which are helping for sure but I still have to stop midway even on the smallest of hills. I'd rather be at home ordering UberEats but I'm hoping that feeling passes eventually.
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>>2704153
hey I recognize that place, it's ferrol!
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>>2719540
nope, it's Cee, last town before Finisterre
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>>2719355
Based fatass
You're an inspiration to us all
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>>2719092
i always believed in him

>>2719355
thats awesome, good for you anon. Btw, the victory here is that you did it, not that you met some girl. on trips people make all sorts of wild plans with people they meet and it goes nowhere, id be lying if I told you i didnt fall head over heels with some french sloot i met in a hostel or whatever back in my early traveler days. so if you meet up with her, great. I wouldn't put my money on it.

and also man, im glad you made great memories, don't forget to keep adventuring, and meeting new women on those adventures, now you know you can do it!

cheers
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>>2719525
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>>2719566

Thank you all it's been a great journey and I can't believe I'm spending time now looking up other walks.

She is from the UK, and yeah I don't expect much but it was nice to be with a female for a week in Madrid, she made me have fun. Maybe I'll get on a dating app soon.

I hope everyone reading this goes on that trip they are too scared to go on, I know I'm going to go on another one soon. Thanks /out/

/out/ings with a Pipe
Old thread: >>2684982

This is a thread for enjoying a pipe while doing outdoor activities. If you ask why this belongs on /out/, you've never spent an evening by the campfire with a pipe silently enjoying the nature around you, and you're missing out.

>how to get started
Purchase a Missouri Meerschaum Legend and a pouch of Half and Half or Captain Black tobacco, available at most smoke shops. You will need a lighter or match, and something to tamp it with--a large nail works well if you don't have a pipe tool. Fill the pipe with tobacco, pack it down halfway, top it off, pack it down to 3/4, top it off again, pack gently and enjoy. Smoke slower than you think you need to, the tobacco tastes best when it is burning cool. Tamp and re-light as needed. If you still have trouble, try different methods on YouTube until you find one that works for you.

>smoking a pipe will give you cancer
While any tobacco consumption comes with some risk, the cancer risks from occasional pipe use are pretty minimal. Educate yourself and make your own informed health decisions. Some info here https://aacrjournals.org/cancerpreventionresearch/article/10/12/704/46541/Association-between-Cigar-or-Pipe-Smoking-and

>muh weed
Not the time or place. Start your own thread
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>>2701176
i pipe smoked for around 5 years or more
best tobacco i smoked was "Dunhill My Mixture 965", full on recommendation
I had a gandalf pipe that put me back 100+ dollars
had various small sherlocks
Breaking in your new pipe : smoke it 3 or so times and youll see it is very harsh, but after that break in period, youre golden.
Ive never smoked a meershaum but it looks like you boys would recommend it
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>>2717716
>Breaking in your new pipe : smoke it 3 or so times and youll see it is very harsh, but after that break in period, youre golden.
Most people will say to break in a new pipe without explaining WHY you should break in a new pipe. The harshness is exactly why. I’ve only had one pipe of my fifteen or so pipes that didn’t bite or taste like charred wood when it was brand new. It typically takes me around 20-30 bowls for a pipe to start tasting good and not smoke hot.
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>>2717716
>3 or so times.
try 50
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>>2717115
I only smoke it when /out/ around my friends and they seem less weirded out by it there. Something seems more normal about randomly pulling out a pipe when you're on a long hike or by a campfire than at other times, even to people that aren't weird /out/ists.
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Trying Carter Hall for the first time. Pretty good. Similar to Prince Albert but a bit sweeter. Gonna try smoking it in a cob since people say that’s the best way to smoke it.

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Old one is about to 404 >>2639545

Last minute discussions and hopefully some sweet pics after the fact will go here. Fair warning to DFW area bros, there's some weather foretasted for the 8th so plan accordingly.
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>>2718788
AUSFAGS ASSEMBLE! Three eclipses over Australia in the next decade or so. Any amazing scenery you can recommend for any of 'em?
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>>2719628
>You mean 2026
I do! And yeah I found Time and Date since I made the last post. I'm trying to figure out where in the Balearic Islands would make the best picture.
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>>2719612
i could photoshop those basedjaks in front of anything you like doing or you are passionate about

>>2719619
>I feel like Ibiza will be a really good place for 2025
if you are retarded. at one degree above the horizon the sun is very distorted, and the slightest cloud is enough to fuck you in the ass
the best compromise of weather and solar height is northern Castilla, in Osorno/Castrojeriz the sun will be 8° above the horizon but the weather statistics are really good, and has plenty of mobility. Galicia is too cloudy for those 2/3 degrees more above the horizon, Iceland is even worse and more expensive to get. the *ideal* spot is the Greenland ice cap really
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>>2719676
>Cathedral Beach is in the path of totality
Disregard Ibiza, I suck cocks.
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>>2719660
Since it's summer and close to sunset I figure it will be towards the western horizon. I bet you could get some incredibly kino photography in the Serra de Tramuntama
Pic rel

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>silnylon tarp
>only 330 grams (11.6 oz)
>will break when exposed to fire or if a branch will fall on it
>expensive to fix or replace
>looks nice
>120 USD

Meanwhile:
>literal piece of plastic drop cloth
>only 330 grams (11.6 oz) for a decent thickness
>will break when exposed to fire or if a branch will fall on it
>easy to fix with ducktape and trivial to replace
>looks like an oversized garbage bag
>2 USD


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>>2719199
Not him but
>bug net
if it’s really bad you don’t want to be opening and closing that thing every time you get up/down, it will let the bugs inside.
Also
>lantern
he’s obv car camping so why not bring a few extra comfort items
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>>2719200
I take an old railroad lantern for off-trail camping. Shit's maximum cozy.
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>>2719200
Yup! Car camping but it’s a mile and a half hike to the spot.

I’ve roughed it with lighter gear but if I can take the chance I’d rather carry something heavier and more comfortable
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>>2718226
Just scrunch the corner of the tarp up and use it like a piece of rope to tie a sheet bend in it. There are some even more secure knots you can tie too, but this one's quick to tie and easy to learn. You may even already know it.
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>>2718811
If you take a trash bag and cut it open by slicing it down one of the sides, then cut it across bottom, you can turn it into a single layered big rectangular sheet of plastic. 2 or 3 of these sheets should be enough to fit a person laying down under it, but it could take more depending on the size of your trashbag and the desired size of the finished tarp.

As for melting them together, sure you can do this. Just overlap the edges of the two sheets of plastic and apply a little heat as you press them together. You can use a bunch of different heat sources to do this too. Like a clothes iron, flat iron, soldering iron, heat gun, or maybe even a hair dryer. You may need to fold a few pieces of paper over and place it on top of the plastic to insulate it from the heat source bit, so you can heat it slowly and evenly.

What is the best videogame to practice orienteering at home and why is it day z?
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>>2716730
What's wrong with arma iii? Too much hud handholding?
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>>2716619
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2707860/Orienteering_Simulator/
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New Vegas
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>>2716635
This, the ingame maps/compass are so fucking dogshit I ended up using the fucking position of the sun to orient myself when I would deploy.
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>>2717108
How does that even work?

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I'm alone, I don't have a car and I'm looking for something I could do on a regular basis (I'm tired of the NEET life)
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Follow women and take creepshots
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>>2716435
This. You will want to buy a battery powered angle grinder and a power drill. Then you can go to traffic cameras and fill the camera box with ethanol foam and set it on fire.
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>>2716402
I could take you under my wing and drive you places. If female, you can pay me in ass. If male, you can pay me in gas. All this with the caveat that you need to be fit enough to keep up with me and live somewhere near me or near somewhere I want to go /out/.
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>>2716776
You can make thermite at home.
It's literally rust mixed with ground up aluminum foil.
Buy a bunch of sparklers (cash) durring the 4th of July and you can use them as timed fuses or grind them up and you essentially have an explosive if you compress it.

Only liberal retards who suck up the TV and REddlt fear guns: the FBI and ClA fear the home chemist.
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>>2716574
>>2716734
Ask me how I know you're both fat females.

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If you see my pix, I have a walmart daypack and a couple of hikes i've needed trekking poles, but only partly (maybe on the return), so I usually carry them on the backpack. I had a Chinese pack that had these rubber-band-like straps that secured the poles well and were quick-release, which is useful when out in the cold.
This pack doesn't have such straps, so I added some velcro cable ties, except those things are a hassle to open and close, and in freezing weather this is worse!
I was wondering if any of you know of some rubber loops that I could attach to the daypack to tie down the poles and allow for quick release?
There is so much equipment out there, somebody must have thought of this!
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https://youtube.com/shorts/eyvNBE0kQzs?si=YwEX6aluHE53G8WK
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Bungie cord and locks. Works perfectly. Simple as.
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Ski straps would work but they might be a little big. Very useful to have for a lot of things.
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>>2718986
You don't need a waste strap on a pack that small. Run the hand loops through the strap on the bottom and use the top straps to keep them horizontal.
picrel.
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>>2718999
It's cheaper to make your own bungie chords. REI sells bungie chord by the foot and the end attaches are cheap as hell.

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What’s it going to take to stop this man?
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>>2712959
Consequences from alcohol that force him to stop drinking.

That will never happen though. He is going to die a pathetic death drinking "camp beers" in a bush behind a dollar tree.

His whole "stealth camping" is just an excuse to drink beer.

Also, his wife was CREAMPIED TO DEATH.
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>>2713616
its because he is shitfaced drunk on booze

Do you think homeless bums feel anxious about passing out drunk on the sidewalk?
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>>2713618
>>2713628
>>2713616
No, it was a hot load of cum. She was creampied to death.
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>>2712959
He will stop... when everyone is dead! HaHAhaHahA!
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>>2716912
you can definitely tell the dude started doing these videos just so he could drink alone in peace because his wife was a raging bitch.

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Post your trailcam photos. This is the only thing I’ve captured in 4 months.
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What is the least pozzed trailcam? Going to be setting one up in the woods 30 ft from my house so preferably something that I could periodically connect to with my phone to check what it's captured.
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>>2719041
Based. You literally defended your property and got a result. Dunno what this goon slapper is on about
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>>2719474
thank you anon. I thought so too.
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>>2719041
Communists don't believe in private property. Seeing as the only good commie is a dead one, I suggest taking down the camera and picking up that ghillie suite and a shovel. Do the world a favor and reduce the communist population.
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>>2719020

What are the best long distance walks in Europe?
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>>2707347
I’ve been trying to find some European cottage gear, just to see what they’re up to, and couldn’t find much.
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>>2711858
>>2711919
What's up with the cough medication on the cross?
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St. Olavs Way is a 400 mile pilgrim route from Oslo to Trondheim, Norway. Fly to Oslo, take a train to the central station, walk for 20 minutes and you’llbe at the starting point. From there its 30-40 days of light hiking mostly on paths in the woods and small roads and paths across farm land. You also have to cross a mountain plateou which will take a couple of days. You will pass through lots of small villages and towns so most of the time you only have to carry food for a day or two. Wild camping is basicly legal everywhere, including private property so It wont cost you anyrhing orger than the plane tickets and whatever food you buy at gas stations and supermarkets. From Trondheim you can easily catch a plane back to Oslo and then home.

One month of hiking through epic nature in one of the world most expensive countries for only a few hundred dollars in food and a gas for your stove
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>>2699971
11th century castle near a small village in my county.
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>>2712044
Awful, retarded map
here's a fixed one

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It literally means "you aren't allowed to directly interact with nature as a living, breathing human being as your ancestors did, you have to treat planet Earth like it's a museum and you're just an unwelcome guest". It's the most extreme and bizarre shit I've ever heard, and the people espousing this philosophy are always the most un-buschrafty neon red and blue polyester clad yuppie urbanites who are the most dependent upon industrial society and agriculture which together constitute 99.9% of the total human threat to the global ecosystem. These people literally think some guy in the woods cutting down a tree with a hatchet and taking a shit is some kind of existential threat. Presumably they also believe men can have babies.
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>>2715458
>Most of the human race should be exterminated like cockroaches
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>>2715712
as do i
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>>2715242
I'm not reading all this either...so I'll assume what you wrote and critique my assumption of your comments.

Wasted.
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>>2715240
You're mostly right but don't seem to understand why. Leave No Trace is like gun safety rules. Every expert preaches the standard gun safety rules, and every REAL expert knows that you can break at least one rule at any given time and still be perfectly safe. Like Leave No Trace, the rules were written for normalfags, plebs, and casuals. If you're not a secondary or pleb, you should actually do with LNT is make it LOOK like you weren't there, or at least minimize impact as much as possible - there's nothing actually wrong with harvesting deadwood, having a small fire (especially if you scatter the ashes when completely doused and tear down your pit), or shitting in a cathole. Meanwhile you can laugh at the plebs who shit in a ziplock and pack it out. Biggest thing is to just not leave garbage lying around.

There's also nothing wrong with taking cool rocks or harvesting mushrooms or whatever, but such pleasures should be reserved for patricians - so the normalfags are taught that this is a bad thing.

>>2718254
Based MMposter
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>>2715240 (OP)
I don't think you realize how quickly we could ruin our forests if everyone who went there cut down a tree every time. If you like nature, don't destroy it so people can continue to enjoy it in the future. It's not that hard a fucking concept.

You can generally find all the wood you need from deadfall anyway if you actually bothered to look around for a bit.

You wanna build your little bushcraft huts or whatever do it on your own property.


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