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I've never been hunting before, and my state requires you to take a student course to get your hunting license.
Anyone do one of these? What am I in for?
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>>2866808
I can honestly get behind them drilling the boring bits. Everyone's going to get a gun and have fun shooting it and practicing it, nobody's going to sit down and study the difference between a great snipe and a woodcock, calibre and projectile requirements, "up to hare's size, but not hare", and a whole lot of the other technical stuff you learn.
I don't think we'd be better served with a longer course either. It takes time and practice to develop good shooting technique, and that would make the course prohibitively expensive and long.
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>>2864752
>hunting license
"land of the free"
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>>2864752
>What am I in for?
they're probably just checking to see if you're not retarded
rather than trying to figure out if you're an ace G-rank poacher-king
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Washington makes you do an in person class. They were all full so my wife just did the oregon hunters ed which is online and Washington State accepts that.
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>>2865199
it's easier than a pissing test

How do you niggas keep the creepy crawlies away in the warmer months? I hate ticks and I don't want to find one on my ballsack. Do you just spray DEET on my balls and hope for the best?
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>>2863817
Deet and a hammock with mosquito net.
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>>2863899

I had a tick bite me on the head of my dick, many years ago.

>be me
>doing kharazhan raid
>crack open my third brewsky
>"okay, kick this noob, I'll log on my prot warrior"
>feel a sharp, intense itchy sting on my dick
>"oh no..." i mutter under my breath bc I already know what the fuck it is, having grown up in this area with constant threat of ticks and dozens of bites over the years
>sprint to the bathroom
>rip that little fucker off as fast as humanly possible
>"phew... okay. Back to the raid"

fast forward about 12 hours

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>>2867124
Mosquitoes can bite through a hammock, but not through an underquilt.
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>>2869222
This is why some hammock brands offer double layer alternatives. How effective those are I don't know.
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>>2863817
don't sleep in the ground like an animal

Where do you go fishing?
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>>2870442
This is my fishing spot. This place hasn't failed me yet.
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>>2870442
Why don't they build new lakes anymore?
A hundred years ago people used to go crazy about damming and digging out ponds and now you can't hecking do that. I get it about trout and migratory fish and whatever but not every stream is like that. Not even talking about fishing/recreation but also improving wildlife habitat by creating wetlands for birds and such.
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>>2870475
Every fish is impacted by damming. It's a huge problem, but the one benefit is stopping the spread of invasives.
In my fishery, buffalo are declining because of dams. Paddlefish, suckers, sturgeon, smallmouth bass, walleye, shad. If you don't care about the non-game fish, you should because they're presence and participation is hugely beneficial to the ecosystem.
The DNR is finding that healthy ecosystems are resilient against invasives. MN has almost no invasive carp. If you have clean water, don't destroy habitat, and don't interfere with spawning fish, then, the invaders will be stopped in their tracks.
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>>2870442
the Aral

As a person who has no family interested in anything remotely outdoorsy who could teach them anything, how the fuck do you get into the hobby?
I don't know shit about fishing. I don't know shit about hunting. I want to get into camping but also don't want to do something fucking retarded because I have zero clue what I'm doing.
Should I start just by reading? Any books for retards on the subject?
Or should I just say fuck it and go /out/ and learn through trial and error?
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>>2868626
If you do want an actual book

Allen & Mike's Really Cool Backpackin' Book is good for the basics. if you need to be concerned about pack weight i would reccomend Lighten Up!: A Complete Handbook For Light And Ultralight Backpacking

these are good but from the early 2000s so there have been some gear advancements but youll see the newer stuff when youre at rei

many pdfs floating around out there
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Just do it
Also read some /out/ books for motivation, like with Wolfe in Canada, or some abridged version of lewis and clark's journals (potentially with annotations)
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Just today I went and got my first rod and reel with some basic shit for $100. You could probably even go cheaper honestly if you just start with some worms. Just soak up information from YouTube videos. My plan is to start my own handbook, just write down anything I learn from videos or experience so I can reference it. Shit like what kind of lure is good for certain fish, environment, weather, etc.

Camping is the same, just start with the basics and go to a campsite with lots. Sure it’s not as magical as backpacking innawoods, but you will get practice with your gear and doing little things like making kindling with a hatchet or cooking with a campfire.

Hunting is a little harder to just jump into in my opinion, much bigger investment. I guess take a hunter safety class first and foremost. No matter what outdoor hobby you decide to try, just keep in mind your gonna suck ass at first, literally everyone does without practice and staying determined to learn.
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>>2868626
I can proudly say I learned fishing all by myself, self taught mostly from watching youtube and scouring angler forums. If you autistically put your mind (and money) to something you'll eventually get there. I love my dad but he was always at work and when he wasn't he'd just want to sit on the TV and was never really an outdoorsy type, so I had to learn it all by myself including the knots. A lot of frustration and cortisol spikes were had learning the ropes but I'm honestly glad I took the leap and did it, or I'd be regretting it 50 years later when I'm retired and have no hobby to enjoy in life
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Just use AI to learn. For me, river crossing alone first time tomorrow morning. Waiting for the glacial ablation to minimize or whatever chatgpt told me. I have weak calves but it has the benefit of reducing drag on the current

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Do you like to look at things when you go /out/?
Show us your optics.
>monoculars
>binoculars
>scopes
>sunglasses too, I guess
>cases/carry systems
>cleaning and maintenance
>poorfag options

I have a Vortex 8x25 mono that I like to bring, but I regret not buying the 10x25. Binos are my old Nikon Travelite III 10x25.
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>>2868835
I had such a hoot when I had my Marlin 1895. All my other rifles were (are) sensible European rifles with silencers and big German scopes, and suddenly I have that heavy, crudely made thing where the lever sometimes hung up, or the ramp didn't feed properly, and when it did it loaded a thumb-sized .45-70 with 61 grains of powder pushing a big 300-grain bullet out through a short barrel with a boom. Couldn't help but smile, it was so much fun, except for what it cost to load, which I did with home loaded ammo.
Wound up selling it, but once I get on top of some other expenses, I'll be getting the model 1894 in .357 magnum. I hear the guns are supposed to be much better after the acquisition by Ruger.
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>>2861306
Got this exact pair on clearance. Heavy but excellent for the price.
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>>2864955
Bought it. The clarity is better than I thought. Only using it for scouting pathways though.
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>>2865633
Update: he died. Thanks for the binoculars dad. Miss you already
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>>2870864
Sorry for your loss, Anon. He sounds like he was a solid guy. I'm sure he'd want you to take the binoculars on many fun adventures until it's your turn to hand them down.

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This is a thread for enjoying a pipe while doing outdoor activities. If you ask why this belongs on /out/, you've never spent an evening by the campfire with a pipe or bowl or blunt or spliff or joint or vape or edible or dab or oil, silently enjoying the nature around you, and you're missing out.

>How to get started
Purchase a cheap glass pipe (or a simple wooden chillum) and a bag of some quality outdoor or mid-grade weed from a dispensary
or your usual guy. You will need a lighter and something to clear the bowl witha paperclip works well if you don't have a proper tool.
Pack the bowl loosely, enough for airflow but enough to stay lit. Light the corner of the bowl and inhale slow. Smoke
slower than you think you need to, the flower tastes best when it isn't cherried too hot. Tamp and corner or re-light as needed. If you still
have trouble, try different methods on YouTube until you find one that works for you. Or you can just roll it or whatever.

>smoking ganja will get you arrested
Originally, the government found that weed smokers, following a careful study of the statistics (at a time when hemp was a cash crop) were just peaceful people who wanted to grow their own medicine, enjoy jazz and engage in mild tomfoolery. Nowadays, weed is being legalized against while the average American thrashes in the thralls of poverty. Put two and two together. Marijuana is just another good thing that was under attack by the government.

>muh tobacco
Not the time or place (unless you're European.) Start your own thread.


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>>2870252
https://danglesupply.com/collections/bongs
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>>2870252
https://aqualabtechnologies.com/products/piecemaker-kirby-silicone-bong
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>>2870358
look cool but i cant pay that much even if it will last forever
>>2870359
this is what im looking for
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>>2870252
if you spend more than $30 on a silicon bong regardless of bowl material you are getting ripped off

they are designed to take a beating but even the "highest grade" (marketing term) silicone will rot and break down after a number of years, especially if regularly expose to heat
not telling you not to get one, but dont overspend on bullshit cuz the vast majority of weed accessories are sold assuming you are a genuine burned out retard who doenst know what they are buying
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>>2870390
There were more, those were just the first couple results I found. Just throw "indestructible bong" into your search engine of choice. Let us know what you end up getting.

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Are campfires needlessly destructive to the environment through people collecting deadwood to make them and the ground they burn? Should everyone just use a gas camp stove instead?
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>>2870513
campfires are negligible unless you count forest fires
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>>2870513
My fires are demure and modest and photogenic and good.

But morons insist on big green wood fires that make a huge mess and frequently cause forest fires, so I can’t get mad when fires are banned, even if it pisses me off that idiots have so little discernment that bans are necessary.

For the first 20 years I would do backcountry camping, I carried strike anywhere matches and a cooking pan, and never a stove, but now I take a stove because half the time the forest jannies have had to ban fires to keep dumbfucks from starting up the whole forest. Frustrating as hell.
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ashes are good for the soil and can be carried far away from the campfire by wind
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>>2870513
No. Slash n' Burn, campfires, even small contained forest fires are good. They clear out tight-packed undergrowth. Not only that, but it's good for the soil and it allows the growth of fire tolerant plants/trees. Also it kills my mortal enemies the Ticks.
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I only hike and camp in remote areas that humanity forgot about, abandoned logging parcels, mosquito infested swamps, places where I can do anything I want and will never run into another human being. I don't give a fuck what laws are passed in your Instagram parks where you have to pay for parking.

Anyone every done the trail? Any advice?
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>>2865906
That person was a liar. Meth heads aren’t spending weeks hiking down the PCT (or any trail). They’re staying close to towns or druggie hostels like Standing Bear and Four Pines on the AT.

Of course the most sketchy places you’ll run into aren’t established hostels or even towns. It’s the informal places where someone lets people stay on private land.

It’s a magnet for trashy would-be thruhikers who end up staying for weeks because they’re drawn to other trashy people, drug use, and being bums. Long time residents and drifters accumulate over time, well past hiking season. It transforms into a trashy type of commune. They usually don’t last more than a few hiking seasons before neighbors complain, the police get involved, or the property owner burns out.
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>>2870619
>>2870618
>>2870377
I don’t think it was a waterborne illness. I think she’s just making that assumption because it’s shilled so hard. Plus she thinks she should have felt better after coming down from a high elevation for a few hours, but she came down from -14,000 feet to only 11,600 feet. 12k is recommended for mild cases, and 10k for more severe cases. She was vomiting and disoriented according to the other hikers who found her, which is pretty severe.

Also vomiting isn’t all that common with most cryptosporidium infestation or giardiasis. You’re more likely to have very smelly, very greasy, explosive diarrhea. She didn’t mention that (but who would, lol).
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>>2865906
>My personal stance is the US has a lot of fun shorter 3-5 night backpacking trails, or even some 2-3 week trails and those are more interesting

The Pinhoti is 300 miles and it’s what the AT was 15 or 20 years ago.
>some hostels, but not many in most places
>almost no trail angels
>not popular enough to attract miscreants
>logistics can still be challenging
>not much of a bubble due to the unpredictable Southern weather and no established norm as to the best time in f year to start
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>>2865904
Go to Europe for through hikes
No need to carry weeks of supplies
No mailing yourself crap
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>>2870642
The Pinhotinis amazing. It’s right in that perfect middle ground. It’s not very popular, but popular enough that there are some accommodations. You won’t find too many blogs or YouTube channels dedicated to it, but there is a FarOut guide. Long enough to be done in a few long sections without sacrificing your entire life or done over several weeks as a thruhike.

The only thing that really sucks is the weather. Spring? Hot with torrential downpours and tornadoes. Summer? You’re out of your god damn mind. Fall is a mostly a coin toss. It could be absolutely gorgeous or 80° and 500% humidity. Winter is the same; either really nice or surprisingly cold (and humid).

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I'm backpacking right now
its 30 degrees
my feet, back and shoulders hurt
there's mosquitos everywhere I can't even rest for 10 sec
is this what people are hyping about?
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>>2870817
Sounds like a mix of skill issue and location issue
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justake,,,the trail ,,through,, Fangorn,,,, Forest.,
,,cool in theshade.,speak,,,,slowly.
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>>2870817
Why did you think hiking when it’s that hot would be enjoyable?

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when did realtree edge become streetwear ? this used to be a show of character -- that you'd wear this if you were a hunter with grit and interesting pasttime. now it's just for douchebag zoomers whose only hobby is being bad at managing their mcdonald's paychecks. how gay is that ! anyone else feel like putting their balls in these people's mouths ? read this sentence if you agree.
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>>2866333
>>2868306
gotta double post and checkem, this is the most nonwhite thing i've seen in a while. many of the white people i know have specific manners (think calling it a facecloth instead of a washcloth, or being trained to pass both the salt and pepper when someone asks for only one), generations of history in charitable organizations, wealth that explicitly rejects conspicuous consumption, they belong to one of like 3 specific mainline protestant religions, the old people unironically care about the british royal family, etc. it's hard to sell that at H&M. white trash is definitely a thing tho
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>>2866334
Yes
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>>2866235
>this used to be a show of character
No this was always for faggots with ego problems. Gatekeeping fucking jackets is gayer than licking balls. Go back to /fa/
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>>2866235
>if you were a hunter with grit
retarded gearfag poser detected. No professional hunter wears this shit. Quit yapping
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>>2866354
>using your hunting clothes as daily wear is bad for scent control and also the longevity of what were reasonably expensive garments
not everyone needs to put the skull of a dead animal on the wall to be a man, and camo shirts are like $10 for a 3 pack at walmart chill out dude

/out/ give me recs on leather boots that are stylish yet practical. Preferably waterproof. Been thinking about the danner light 2, but I wanna know whats out there.
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>>2864911
>Limmer
2nd this
Limmer über alles
Only thing that holds a candle to them are Meindl Perfekts, Hanwag Bergell Top, and various Steinkoglers
Limmer, unlike the Meindl and Hanwags come in 3 different widths (except the ultralights)
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>>2861042
>Zamberland
I got these and yeah, they do run a bit narrow.
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>>2867842
People intrinsically understand that wide, non heeled footwear is more comfortable. Look at any house slipper or ultra casual loafer. They just have a mental block on applying that logic to any other footwear. Although I think most of it is people misunderstanding the function in modern footwear all comes from sole design and materials. They're mistaking the form for the function.
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>>2856830
I only wear Lems bc my back
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>>2861475
I hate it when this happens.

Kill Japanese beetles. Behead Japanese beetles. Kung-fu chop a Japanese beetle into the concrete. Slam dunk a Japanese beetle into the water. Squish filthy Japanese beetles. Spread poison in your yard. Launch Japanese beetles into turbofans. Stir fry Japanese beetles in a wok. Toss Japanese beetles into active bonfires. Urinate on Japanese beetles. Throw Japanese beetles into a coffee grinder. Twist Japanese beetles' heads off. Report importers to the CBP. Pinch Japanese beetles in half. Slime out breeding Japanese beetles. Trap Japanese beetles on flypaper. Crush Japanese beetles in the vice. Liquefy Japanese beetles in a vat of acid. Eat Japanese beetles. Dissect Japanese beetles. Exterminate Japanese beetles through fumigation. Stomp Japanese beetle exoskeletons with boots. Cremate Japanese beetles in the oven. Incinerate Japanese beetles. Mandatory sterilization for Japanese beetles. Grind Japanese beetle grubs in the garbage disposal. Drown Japanese beetles in tree sap. Vaporize Japanese beetles with a Bug-A-Salt gun. Flick old Japanese beetles off of leaves. Feed Japanese beetles to lizards. Slice Japanese beetles with pruning shears.

Its astonishing when you think about it. An entire continent (safe for Russia and scandinavia) has been completely stripped of its nature
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>>2869105
>>2869097
It really depends on the area. Each protected natural landscape has his "own laws" in Spain. In some National Parks you can camp above some altitude and other conditions, in others, you simply cant.
In other areas, like natural parks, biosphere reservers and so on, is like a grey zone. Its not allowed but not prohibited either. So if you're respectful with nature and dont stay more than a night in the same place, nobody will bother you.
Also, Spain differenciates camping from "sleeping" (pernoctar). Basically, it is legal to cowboy sleep or bivouac in any place wich doesnt explicitly prohibits it, but it is illegal to place a tent in mostly all circumstances.

So check the local legislation if you want to do an /out/ing in Spain. It is possible to do some pretty nice multiday treks if you avoid the most restricted areas.
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>>2869106
This, otherwise it would be full of norimie scum littering and playing Bad Bunny with bluetooth speakers
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>safe for
Oh God, the jeets are now here as well :/
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>>2862702
It's sad how barren Germany has become. A 150 years ago we had so much beautiful untouched nature. Now we are horribly overpopulated and every spot left of nature is about to be industrialised. Every little glimpse I get of what it must have looked like in the past, I feel nothing but remorse in my heart.
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still no restrictions here and btw no you cant come here we are full
t. winland

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/out/ with dog
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Done
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>>2870632
The spot we hiked was absolutely lush. Grass was about shin high but came up to my hips in some spots. Had to give her a bath when we got home cus it was so muddy.
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>>2870647
But Mr. bot sir, that's a Tesla.
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>>2870735
i wish he had been more successful desu. (and not at painting.)
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>>2857694
doubt with ogg

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Albums that either evoke imagery of being in nature or are well suited for an /out/ing. I'll start: Fishmans - Long Season (1996)
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Matthew Halsall - An Everchanging View. The entire album feels like a walk through a sun-kissed meadow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFbeQUPf1ds

This record is like anodyne for my soul on weeks where I'm stuck working long hours in the lab.

>>2866926
Based Takanaka appreciator. I'm partial to An Insatiable High, though that may just be the cover art getting me in the mood to roon. But Seychelles is classic.
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Stand out track is Trees, Birds, and Fire, but this has been one of my /out/ go-to's for years.
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For forest esoterica vibes:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zktxK1YKVw8
Also some good atmosheric BM albums like Walknut - Graveforests and Their Shadows are nice after sunset.
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>>2863944
https://youtu.be/mTC_XXZAoVc?si=6u8i9Gr_pCbihFMJ

will always remind me of wyoming wilderness. especially in the western portions near the rockies
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>>2869583
Great album, rare pic
"Wind" and "water" by Takashi Kokubo, also cool.
"Pacific" by various japs, good pic too


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