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can anyone recommend a good pair of hiking boots? price doesn't really matter, i'm just trying to get a decent pair of boots that won't bust a hole straight through the bottom like my last pair (my walking posture is fine)
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>>2860539
The Speed Assault 2?
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Are aspen boots suitable for out
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Im looking for something wide, most of the retailers dont have filtering with how wide top of the foot is, I have a freaking fin of a feet, very wide and flat, cannot find anything good in 48 size, any company that makes more wide shoes?
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>>2861185
Jim green
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Think about what you're using them for.

I own a pair of Merrel military-esque boots, and they incredibly lightweight. Wear them everyday. Salomon is great too.

Yet to really understand the trail runners debate. I own a pair of them, but if I'm out somewhere isolated I want to protect my feet from snakes and rough terrain.

>EWG study: Eating one freshwater fish equals a month of drinking ‘forever chemicals’ water
So am I just not supposed to eat fish anymore? What's the point of even fishing anymore?
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>>2854649
I don't know what fish they tested but I doubt that the fishes in mountain rivers or just higher altitude will be as much contaminated as those in the low lands. But don't overfish on these places, because it (obviously) have lesser fish , because of the higher altitude. Also you probably can identify clean lakes or rivers by the presence of freshwater crayfish or freshwater clam.
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>>2860598
True, people actually don't know how deeply we are in the swamp. Everything around us , including air,food,soil and biological resources deteriorats and life will become hell.
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>>2854649
It’s all a scam bro. We had to switch off nanopur systems and go back to caveman distillation for water that would pass as PFAs blanks. Back in the 50s predatory birds were falling over dead from all the semivolatiles we were blasting into crops and the fish absorbing them. Chow down imo
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>>2855348
do you have a source to this or map where it's safe? i'd like to know more on where it's safe to fish/live. Thanks for the info anon.
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>>2854649
I looked into the specific study results and it's pretty weasel-y. For example, they sampled quite a few fish from the Connecticut River, but the majority of those were taken immediately downriver from a major city

I don't want my fish to have chemicals. I'm also not super surprised that a Largemouth taken in Hartford a mere 500 feet away from the airport tarmac might be not that good to eat

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So I been wanting a cheap bike to bike around to the store and maybe bike 5 miles to work, but I don't want to shell out hundreds of dollars for some overpriced bike if a walmart bike suits me fine. I heard walmart bikes are shit, but are they that shit that I should spend 500+ bucks if I just want to commute to places?
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>>2860639
>Try Craigslist.

The right answer. Look for a hybrid or MTB from early 90s/ GT, Diamondback, Trek, Mongoose, Fuji or Giant with no suspension & steel frame, Japan or Taiwan made. Just check CL around me in Podunk, 8 at $100 or less. Spend another $100 on chain, tires, tubes & cables and you've got a great bike for next 20 years. Really splurge and spring for new seat & grips.
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Facebook marketplace>>>>>> craigslist in 2026.
I scored a Trek Domane 4.3 2014 for $480
2018 Specialized Stumpjumper for $1500
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Craigslist, FB marketplace and to a lesser extent my local junkyard are all places that I've gotten used bikes from, and most of them have been rideable, or have provided parts for other bike projects.

as far as walmart bikes, the ozark G1 explorer and whatever the current ozark down hill bikes are pretty legit from what I've seen and read about, as in they're ridable. To me, I'd be more inclined to get the G1 over a mtb bike though
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>>2860635
“Hundreds of dollars” is for an “overpriced bike”

Oh anon….

Real advice though I’d go secondary market, which is plentiful, and focus on quality there over <$500 new which equals shit. Check out the website pink bike, look for bikes that are under 7 years old, lightly used, no obvious defects, same size as you, etc from reputable manufacturers. You’ll get something much better. Or if you want to commute and nothing else you can probably find a local place in town that serves the community (aka Poors) with donated and refurbished bikes and get something there very cheap that will hold up


If you’re cycling for exercise, doing touring rides of 20+ miles, or mountain biking then I would focus on a decent bike
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>>2860635
The one in your pic is good enough and will last you at least 10 yrs with moderate usage

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>record low snowpack in the rockies
Fire season is gonna fucking blow this year. Fuck wildlandtards, forestry chads where the fuck we at? How are you planning to deal with having half your jobsites burn down?
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>>2861249
I'm constantly amazed by Schrodinger's wildfire from the snowpack. Either the snowpack is too plentiful and it causes an abundance of growth which leads to wildfires. Or it's too dry which causes less growth which leads to wildfires.

Which is it???
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>>2861265
That's just early summer vs late summer blazes.
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>>2861249
>more fires
>more OT
>no tax on OT
Quite simple really
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>>2861256
Would you rather have everything be on fire for 5 months or 9 months?
Would you rather have fuels build up for 2 months or 5 months?
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>>2861265
>antecedent conditions matter

>too plentiful and it causes an abundance of growth which leads to wildfires
that doesnt lead to wildfires it just makes them more intense when they do start as there is more to burn but wet antecedent conditions can put off fire season
>too dry
that means the soil/fuel moisture will is low and can lead to an earlier fire season

>will anyone fall down the vapor pressure defecit rabbit hole?

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Are radiator or those big oil jugs good for storing gasoline temporarily for a day or two if you had to fill one up? I hear gasoline will soften and eat up certain plastic bottles. Who makes big bottles with a big cap opening to put a gasoline station fuel nozzle in it?
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>>2857676
Protip:

The cuck spout law only applies to motor vehicles (i.e. legally road cars).
Marine applications are exempt and you can get normal gas cans at your local boat shop.
But in reality you should be running race cans anyways.
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DEF jugs work and theyre free. Check the caps the seal usually falls off when you open it probly to deter reuse.
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>>2857651
The ransomware gas shortage proves otherwise
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>>2857687
>I want to save $0.80 and be extremely inconvenienced instead ofusing a purpose made item.
What is your mental illness called? Do you have literal trash you save because "I can use this! I might need it some day!".
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>>2858049
Any place that sells dirtbike or SxS gear will have them as well.

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Could (you) manage to climb a slightly muddy hill without needing rescue?

>Social media posts often show the Highland cows and panoramic views, but rarely reflect the physical effort or preparation required to reach them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjrz972lg84o
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>>2860859
This is 100,% what happened.

One of my favorite day hikes out here in Oregon is hiking out to Tunnel Falls. It's maybe 12 miles round trip (I usually go further down the trail to find a quiet place to sit and eat whatever snack I brought, so 15ish for me), but it's pretty easy. The last time I went, the TikTok kids had discovered it; there were kids sitting in the middle of the trail at the falls, which effectively blocked the trail, since it's so narrow (see pic, they were sitting to the right of the falls), forcing me to essentially step over them. On my way out, I passed a very out of shape woman, maybe a mile from the trailhead, who asked me if she was almost there. It was late enough in the day that I didn't think she was going to make it to the falls, and if she did, she's be returning to her car in darkness. I ended up giving her the rest of my water, because she was already out, and she mentioned that TikTok brought her here from New Jersey.
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>>2861082
I don't think about you at all
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>>2861137
You fucked them, right? Anon, they obviously knew what sheep were.

>>2861124
Why are you responding to drive-by phone posters?
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>>2861137
mad when zoomers play vidya inside, mad when zoomers go outside to look at cows
can't win with you miserable old fucks
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>>2861139
>pakistani girls

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I literally got canceled because I posted about video about hiking up a mountain during a snowstorm in my state. Apparently we're not allowed to do that because we have to think about search and rescue and how they can get hurt if they ever need to come rescue you, like, nigga, if you don't wanna come rescue me then don't work for search and rescue. Stupid ass.
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>>2859263
ur retarded. OP pays taxes and is a citizen of the land. he should be able to walk wherever he wants to unless it’s trespassing on posted private property. if search and rescue have to find him then they are doing the bare minimum, which is their job.
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>>2859764
they are paid regardless. you have no idea how organizational structure, taxes, payments, or employment works.
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>>2859256
>>2859325
>>2859337
>>2859379
>>2859764
>>2859766
Search & Rescue is mandated by law. It isn't an elective service just randomly provided. The state and the county mandate that they exist. The county or respective area is legally on the hook for it. And they're all volunteers. I've worked with their k9 teams a bunch at my clinic.
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>>2861163
uhm... then, like, don't volunteer, nigga tf? you're not being drafted, shit.
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>>2861163
And who enforces and creates these laws?
Who selects persons to become members of search and rescue?
Not OP. For OP to be the wrong, he’d have to be responsible for both.
You act as if OP enslaves people into S&R then, like a maniacal Roman emperor sets rigged gladiatorial games where he demands they rescue him from situations engineered to be lethal to his ‘saviours’.

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Does anyone actually hike with these or are they just fashion items for UL faggots and women? They look extremely tiny and impractical to me
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>>2859124
i use a condor h harness for walks that last less than 2 days. it's good because you can access stuff easily without taking it off. it has shoulder straps so it's probably better than whatever that woman is wearing. i usually carry 2 - 3 litres of water, a folding shovel, binoculars, and some sleeping stuff. everything is black
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>>2860304
interestingly enough, i've noticed a lot of the lumbar packs have been developed specifically for cyclists
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>>2859619
So wait a minute. You're telling me in the song fat bottom girls, big fat fanny was not a reference to a huge ass, but a meaty pussy?
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>>2859124
Bros, who are your top hikesluts to goon to? I must coom.
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>>2860312
>I don't recommend them unless you look like the girl in that pic
I kinda look like pic but I'm a dude thoughbeit, what model/brand do you recommend?

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Do you swim in winter? the ocean doesnt freeze here but gets down to around 7 degrees in january/february at its lowest. today it was 9 and pretty comfy. i go multiple times a week and it has really helped me build up my cold tolerance for all /out/ activities. not to mention strengthening my immune system and easing arthritic and tendonitic pains.
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>>2849494
o. this winter has been great for swimming. it hasnt snowed yet, a few nights below freezing but the water has remained around 8 degrees. ive started a new game where i dunk myself and try to stay down at the ocean floor for as long as possible before shooting up out of the water. also i seem to be putting on more chest hair this winter, i dont know if i am just becoming a man finally or if this cold exposure is causing me to evolve..
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>>2858360
You need to see a doctor.
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>>2849494
i went to a hot spring the other day it was really cool but kind of crowded. the water is very hot and sometimes its too much even when its 20 degrees out!
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>>2855011
Not sure if you even check back in this thread, but I think that sounds like a wonderful time. Thanks for sharing.
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>>2861148
Hey anon I do still visit! Thanks for the comment, it was a weird time and such nice memories.

I wish /out/ was busier like it used to be, but at least we're all still here

how do you train for mountaneering hiking and backpacking and out in general

i know the optimal way is to load weight on a backpack and walk uphill and down, increasing distance, elevation and weight progressively

but i live in flat area and it's depressing to drive for 1 hour just to be on the same boring trail. anything closer is shit, i need to go up and down the same hill 10 times to get close to the total elevation i want, it's boring and depressing and people who i encounter think i'm stupid

any other suggestions?
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>>2853644
It's sad how true this is. Walking is mostly for the poors these days, and they're pretty terrible at it.
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>>2853644
My brother in Christ just drive a car. You aren't that poor.
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>>2861063
This nigga smokes crack in the blade then runs up and down the canals because he's stuck. Dont let him trick you guys
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>>2855108
lol
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>>2853460
I live in flat flyover country but still go to Rockies, northeast, pnw for mountaineering/hiking a few times a year so get it. It’s definitely doable

What I do is focus on cardio base and strength training:
>squats, deadlifts, other leg work 1-2x a week
> trail running, if possible, even in a flat area
> distance running 2-3x a week (typically stay in the 5-7 mile range unless training for a longer race)
> cycling (typically around 20-30 miles a ride)
> sounds gay but step counting. Going on long walks, getting at least 12k a day. Buy a walking pad at home if you need to
What works for others but I’ve never done:
> rucking, even if flat area, putting 20-30 lbs on a vest and just walking
> stair master. Any gym should have this


Also try to be lower body fat. I like to train for triathlons so it’s a plus because this also keeps you in great hiking shape. My buddies who focus solely on bro split lifting 5x a week at the gym, have a beer diet, and play in a rec softball league once a week all think the are good to go and ALWAYS have to tap out in the mountains

Weather is starting to get cold and I wanted to get you guys opinion so I figured I'd get the wool general going
What's an acceptable blend in your guys experience for /out/ings? I'm looking at getting one of those L.L. Bean birdseye sweaters and it's 80 wool 20 Rayon. Will the rayon be detrimental at all? Anyone have experience?
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>>2860958
Funny that you should mention milsurp btw. There's WW2 repros for 150 bucks.
https://nestof.pl/en/products/poland-1945/uniforms-headgear-and-footwear/m1936-polish-field-tunic-woolen-repro-8213.html
You would think that they use the cheapest "wool" you can find, but they also sell fabric by the meter and it's decently thick at 370g/sqm, perfectly in line with those other jackets I posted. Might be recycled and/or blend, but the price suggests it has a strong wool content.
Varusteleka also sells a blanket shirt (anorak) at 180 bucks.
https://varusteleka.com/en-de/products/srm-blanket-shirt?_pos=1&_sid=61b0d677e&_ss=r
Varusteleka uses a recycled wool blend of course. Those german ones I posted used new wool, and still start at 260 eurobucks.
Fabric weight on all these are 11-13 oz. Filson uses 24oz on their mackinaw cruisers, but you pay also twice the money and don't get twice the functionality.
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>>2860958
>https://hedlund-clothing.de/loden-kleidung/lodenjacke-herren/lodenjacke-grenland-forest
>387gsm
I mean we are talking jackets I guess at this point. But this is very thin. There are cotton tee shirts at 310gsm. The filson makinaw is 24oz/ly which is ~500gsm. Honestly the makinaw is more of a coat than a jacket, really. The first one I wouldn't even count since it's mostly recycled and a lot of plastic and the third one is just a light jacket. You can find ones that cheap here in multiple styles with low weights like that. There isn't really going to be a free lunch.
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>>2860961
>There isn't really going to be a free lunch.
Buy the fabric and make it yourself.
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>>2860962
I've done this kind of thing and resoled my own shoes with leather midsoles and gluing the soles. I would need a Juki TL to give it a go without just breaking needles. I will probably buy one but not right now. I already have all the clothes I need and most people buy way too warm of clothes for the weather anyway. I'm comfortable with just a sweater and a windbreaker until it's under 10F. My next project is going to be a new leather carry-on suitcase with the max volume I can get based on airline size regulations. I will get urethane casters and a telescoping handle for it and just saddle stitch it. For the rigid sections just plywood. I've found brass ykk zippers to order for it as well. For the lining I will probably just glue a thinner 1-2oz leather and just glue it corium to corium.
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Petros is having a sale again.
I can vouch for these, they're good.

Love my zippered crewneck

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Where are my /divers/ at?
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Is there any catch with a seaskin drysuit? The price difference to any other brand is ridiculous
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>Go on a deep dive.
>Take 15 minutes to reach your depth.
>Look around for a bit.
>Now have to sit underwater and decompress for 12 hours to get out.

WTF. Make it make sense.
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I've heard that drowning is one of the most peaceful ways to die. My question is how the hell can anyone know that? Anyone who has drowned is... dead.
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>>2861024
*painful
Not peaceful lol
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>>2861024
You have the testimony from drowned people who have been resuscitated. Once you get past the parts they've experienced, it's "just" passing out from lack of oxygen and your body shutting down, bit by bit.
People describe a desperate struggle to breathe remaining air and holding their breath until they are no longer able, and then an intensely burning sensation as the lungs fill with water. After a while of that, they pass out.

>>2860749
If you're doing such deep dives, you're either very interested in what you're doing and don't mind it, or you're getting sufficiently compensated for it to not mind it.
For your regular compressed-air diver, it's no big concern, you just don't dive that deep. That's for the technical divers with their mixed gasses.

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Why do so many people die hiking Mount Baldy?
Someone calls 911 and helicopter goes to look for missing hiker, finds him, the finds two more bodies also,
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/30/us/hikers-dead-mount-baldy-california.html

News shows someone dying every few weekends if not more. Its not like it K2 or Mt. Everest. I knew a guy who loved hiking, was very experienced, went hiking at a regular spot and just disappeared. I think I will just watch my big screen tv and drink my coffee instead of going /out/ in the cold.
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>>2855866
>Why do so many people die hiking Mount Baldy?

Because people from LA are retarded.
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I'm one of those almost retards. 45 years ago,, we hiked the backside of Baldy from CA Highway 2 in late September and get to the summit late afternoon. Now, there's no snow to speak of, but we need to get back before it gets dark and the area we're hiking is wilderness and on the way back, we see a male Bighorn which stops us in our tracks in amazement since we're only 40 miles from downtown LA as a crow flys. We're walking along a knife edge trail, where going off the trail more than 5 or 6 feet could lead you to start sliding or worse start tumbing down a 2000 foot slope. The sun is setting, but not a big deal as the contrast is pretty good from remaining dusk and we're 15 minutes from the trailhead.

Then the fog rolls in from out of nowhere and suddenly we can barely make out the trail and in another five minutes we can't even make out the ground (there was no moon that evening) Neither one of us had thought to bring a flashlight, and while we made jokes about the situation, the fear was there. It took an hour to make it back and what saved our ass was that knife edge and some Brownian motion, that told us when the trail was getting too steep to try a less steep direction. We made it back to the trailhead and on the way back didn't really talk much on the way back be a use we both realized how fucking stupid we acted that we could have died by sliding or freezing to death.

A few weeks later, we read story about two folks who were walking along that section during the day after it had snowed and had slid to their deaths. It was one of those moments where we both looked at each other and realized that we could have done that, too, without thinking about the hazards.

I can only add, that the best teaching moments when you're young is when something almost fatal happens, and your frontal cortex goes: "U DUMB FUCK!". As you get older though, especially when you have kids, those idiot thoughts decrease.

FYI, I later did CDT thru NM. Better outcome.
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>>2855870
This is really it. As simple as that.

F

>Luke Drylawn , known for his youtube survival channel "Outdoor Boys", found dead aged 42 in his Salt Lake Springs home. His family has asked for privacy at this time.

>https://outdoorsurvivalist.ng/news/2926/utah-youtuber-found-dead.aspx

;_;
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>>2860630
Psychopath.
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>>2860719
stop shilling your poser ass channel here and kys luke, i'm a better outdoorsman than you
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>>2860533
>cause nobody gives a fuck about what israelis are paid to type on /pol/
ftfy
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>>2859944
>Drylawn
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>>2859952
It's the TLD for Nigeria

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>>2853908
If you don't want to go with >>2853913, I always recommend diatomaceous earth, carefully applied with a brush. Takes care of all arthropods. Just don't breath it.
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Is it a good idea to plant onion heads upside down in hanging plastic bottles for the sole purpose of harvesting their shoots?
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>>2862120
>hanging plastic bottles
PET is a shit plastic typically only single use and degrades fairly quickly, i wouldn't use it for growing in. you can use milk jugs though, they are HDPE and much more rugged/durable.
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Raised garden bed enjoyers, what are some materials to make temporary raised garden bed frames that will last a year or two? I don't have any wooden planks / cinder blocks, and transportation costs would make the whole setup pretty pricey. Are just plain branches and shrubbery good enough to hold a foot of soil?
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>>2862133
Yeah. And if you can find some hard dead logs to drag out you can split them and rive your own borders. You are free to do it however it works for you. You could use 2 liter pop bottles if you wanted.


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