can anyone recommend a good pair of hiking boots? price doesn't really matter, i'm just trying to get a decent pair of boots that won't bust a hole straight through the bottom like my last pair (my walking posture is fine)
i also need boots, though on a terrible budget. last year i got the cheaper line of these >>2844129 but they were like two sizes too large so i'm considering doubling down on that but it feels bad to repurchase a questionable product>you don't NEED bootsit's for the elements, not for my feet. i'm not going to dress up in gaiters or water-resistant trousers every time there's a chance i'll have to walk through snow or whatever.
>>2843610Keene makes good stuff, my wife wears them, I wear Morrel.
>>2845863Goodwills in northern states always have cheap used Sorel boots.
>>2844630Why do newfags keep bringing up this tired old debate? Trail runners and boots are both ideal for different terrain and trail types. Trail runners are for literal trails. Boots are for more rugged terrain where you might actually encounter something other than a well maintained gravel trail.
>>2845863When it comes to boots you really get what you pay for. Expensive leather boots will pay for themselves down the line, and I don't necessarily mean you have to go out and buy a $1k pair of whites. I hike in Red Wings Blacksmiths which are like $300, but I'm on year three with them and they still look good as new after their b-annual clean and polish. Anyone who claims heritage leather boots are uncomfortable to hike in has never taken the time to properly break them in, or is a dainty city boy with soft feet.
>Forest in the morningBlissful >Forest in the afternoonCool and safe refuge>Forest at sunsetEtherial and calming>Forest in the black of nightAbsolute terror and fear How do I overcome this? Exposure therapy? I was so tired by the second night of my hike it didn't matter as much but every little sound freaks me the fuck out. I'm a 28 year old 200 pound man, why does it scare me?
>>2846394I've done this before, not fun. Ever since a particularly difficult incident I carry a flashlight or headlamp in my bag if there's any risk at all of me being held-up or late.Fun fax: I live at the edge of a long branching national park that sprawls many miles of a river valley and is surrounded by suburbs, so sometimes if I'm out at the pub or shopping at opposite suburbs it's much easier for me to hike through the park 30mins to get back and forth, rather than deal with going all the way around via busses etc. I got hung up at the pub with some friends once and by 2am the busses weren't coming so I bushwalked home with just the little lamp on my phone which had like 10% battery so I had to use my night vision mostly and just occasionally check for giant spider webs blocking the path. I almost walked into about 5 garden orbs which build their nets across the entire trail at night
>>2846174i hate stumbling over your tents at 2AM. makes me paranoid that every little rock and mound might be a tent with another person. very disturbing. please stop setting up on trails and the easily-accessible scenic spots.
There is a trail near me that I've walked a dozen times during the day, but the one time I went at night just to try it, I could hear deer (?) walking all around me, not something I ever heard during the dayit was too spoopy to ever try it again
>>2846773I've been startled by deers in the dark quite a few times. I've also been stalked by bears, a mountain lion, and been encircled repeatedly by coyotes. The dark is more than just the dark, it can be downright dangerous
>>2846795Coyotes wouldn't be nearly as scary if they didn't travel in such huge groups. I remember one time, walking down sketchy backroads to my buddy's in the middle of the night as a teen, where I heard what must've been damn near 30 of the bastards just across a field. If they'd wanted a snack, I wouldn't have stood a chance.
>ascends Mountain without proper gear>don't tell anyone when you plan to return>disoriented by blizzard >can't find track>dies of hypothermia three hours walk from a roadhttps://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/mystery-surrounds-deaths-of-two-hikers-in-victorian-high-country/du6a48d1rBecause you can see the top from the road, i think people get the impression they can just walk in and out, without really understanding the weather conditions at the top, and how quickly they can change. Never good news.
>>2843896>I read through Freedom of the hills before I even did my first 3 mile hikeI don't believe you
>>don't tell anyone when you plan to return>plan to return
>>2844394You never know when you might need to place an ice screw.
>>2846786Has it come up yet?
>>2846790Nta but, no.Infact, I don't even own an ice screw so if I did need to use one I'd be.........Screwed.
I need a water bottle that1. Won't poison me with microplastics or metal flakes2. Is easy to clean without a dishwasher 3. Holds at least a liter What are my options?
>>2846608“Nonstick” bro is literally asking for a non Poisonous water bottle and you give him the forever chemical silver dildo
>>2846671Metal and glass wouldn’t be so expensive if it was mass produced like before look at Mexico most of their beloved sugar water coke is still in glass bottles because the infrastructure is still there to produce those bottles
>>2846698More delusions. Tin cans and glass bottles are still being produced in numbers so large, economy of scale advantages are hardly to be made any more. They're more expensive because of physics, that's the reason.
Try a waterskin.
just open your mouth and look up when it rains
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/13/microplastics-hiking-shoes-outdoor-gear
>>2846721The people who care about this are already doing this and it isn't an issue North America and Europe. We essentially need to implement martial law on india and china to stop them from poisoning the world
>>2844687Time to start wearing wooden clogs
>>2846670We're in a miniature ice age. The temperature will go up no matter how much money you send to billionaires.
>>2846736but you can't change what's going on in those places on the other side of the world, the only thing that should readily matter is here and now, what can be changed. and if you consider the logistics of what you're preposing it is obviously something straight out of the turner diaries that would involve glassing large amounts of people and nature. do you really think the average american would get behind forcing martial law on the two most populous countries, much less the rest of the world (which that would require)? anyways i'm just trying to inspire some people to not let shit like this get them down when they see it, shit is pretty bad but you know it's going to get way fucking worse and nothing can change that until we give enough of a damn to be the vehicle of change ourselves. that doesn't have to involve collapsing the governments of world powers
>>2846760I agree, we must immediately implement large cutbacks on US agriculture and implement a total ban on food exports to the third world, preferably coupled with a naval blocade of those countries for good measure until they completely fix their ecological situation to match America and Europe's level in terms of recycling, air and water pollution and carbon emissions per volume of industrial productivity. Only that way can we start to address climate change. This is the only reasonable alternative to using nuclear weapons and enliminating those polluters threatening our planet entirely.
Protip you can't
>>2845530>gentileObviously the Jews are happy to live in shacks.
>>2845591ur mom was a genteel
>>2840945Adirondacks are pretty amazingI live in Vermont and I'd never bothered to go there until a couple weeks agoI was surprised how nice it is and how the landscape is more extreme than Vermont
>>2840945that poor guy
Truly the land of enchantment. People are caching on sadly and there has been a large increase of Californians and Texans coming here. Can tell just by the increase number of license plates from those places as well as how they are buying property left and right that the average New Mexican can't afford.
is it possible to do simple navigation (north, south, east and west) via looking at stars? if so what is a good guide to it?t. only goes outdoors to pick berries and afraid to get lost in the forest
>>2845306Just use a compass and gps on your phone bro.
>>2845308this, it's impossible
>>2845306Lmao op you cant navigate with the stars. What utter nonsense. This isn't star trek.
>>2845306there is a north star, but it only points north, so if you are heading north you're in luck, but other directions? tough luck kidits the bright dot in the night sky (look north)
>>2845306If you can find Orion, Taurus, the seven sisters or Cassiopeia then you can find the general direction of the North Star.
heres mine time was about 3 weeks agowas fishing at the river behind my house and had a decent fishing day except for one momentwas drinking with my rican friend who brought some ribs and casting for catfishi had like about 85 yards out and felt a rumbleso im like ill wait for a hit on the hook and then run back and shitwell about 10 minutes goes by and its grtting worselike channeling energy to my sphincter i say fuck that im gonna lose it and start reeeling in my linenow im struggling to hold this flow in reeling in on a 12 foot pole on 40 lb test with a 4oz weight(nriver has some deep black mud), i knew it was gonna be a bad onegod knows 8 seconds into the retreival im probably 40 feet from shore i get a MASSIVE strikeand then it happenedthe force of the fish hitting my hook plus my stance, it must have looked absurb.mind you now, i am wearing swimtrunks (no net) and all this happens in less than a secondi instinctely threw back my rod for the hook land, and in the same action release my bowelsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Last 2 times I had to do it I was on sand, thankfully. Camping in the sand dunes, fishing trip>3 day trip>need to unload>walk 200m back into the dunes where nobody is >dig a hole>do the thing>burn the paper>fill in the hole The very last time was in pitch black darkness...just adds another element to it.
Just don't be the guy that shits beside a tent site. A few times I pulled a stake out from the ground covered in scat and asswipe. Fuck whoever shits right beside their tent
>>2845578That’s shitty, man. When I need to go at the campsite, I just hike a couple minutes into the forest, turn over a big rock, blast it into the hole, return rock to its resting place.
Thoughts on trail bidets?Section hiked the AT and mostly used the shelter latrines except once, so I never actually used it.
Simple story really, only 1 time surprisingly.>be me>be on wma>hike for an hour or 2>walk back to car>on way, feel an extreme and painful need to shit>try to brush it off but can't>had bag on w/ water bottle inside and other things>use plastic bag to shit somewhat off path>carry shit bag w/ me and toss it out when I get home
https://www.outdoorlife.com/survival/elk-hunters-missing-colorado-search/They're dead, aren't they? Talked to some folks from the area, I'm a bit north, they say they have no chance. >San Juan Mtns near Durango
>>2841124>Be me>Honeymooning in Colorado>Driving through the state to see the aspens and hike>First night in Georgetown>Take the little train tour with spergy guide with a speech impediment>Drink at the brewery and try to get my wife pregnant>Next morning go downstairs for free breakfast>Two dudes in camo walk in>EXCUSE ME WE GIT LOST ELK HUNTING YESTERDAY AND THE RANGER DROPPED US OFF HERE IS THERE ANYONE HEADED BACK TO DENVER WE COULD CATCH A RIDE WITH BEFORE WE PAY $150 FOR A TAXI?>Babe let’s help them>No>Why?>Theyre retarded, you don’t pick up hitch hikers in America, you made me leave my gun at home, and we’re going the opposite way, and they didn’t say pleaseI can excuse being a retard and an hours worth of inconvenience but not bad manners.
>>2846484>You don't pick up hitchhikers in Americamore like you don't go Hitchhiking in America, retard. Homeless/vagabonds are targeted by serial killers, they're not uberman serial killers
>>2846484Why did you even make this post? What a stupid fucking anecdote by a retarded cunt with a fat, stupid, ugly whore of a wife
>>2846387truth nvke
>>2841133>I bring 70+lbs of gear with me and most of it is water.How much water are you bringing?
I just want to remind all the seething chuds that I went to glacier np this year and you didn't.
>>2846575>STOPgrim.
>>2846574Based, i kneel OPThis man is more outdoorsy than 90% of /out/
>>2846574I only made it to Crater Lake this year. Hoping to hit Glacier next season, it's "only" 10 hours from me.
Glaicer is based desu. It's easy to get away from crowds if you're willing to do 20 mile day hikes instead of gawking from a parking lot.
>>2846664Auto shitters dont deserve to just trample any grass on the side of the road. There is plenty of backcountry you are allowed to cross country travel in if you are actually hiking
Is trad climbing based and trad?
>>2845177>sport climber mental gymnastics / copeMaybe I just don't want to look at your bolts? If you're going to role play climbing something that wouldn't otherwise be possible without drilling holes and leaving fixtures in the wall, just put up a fucking via ferrata. I just don't understand the "sporting" mindset. Seems like a mental illness. Neurosis at best. For me, climbing is a means to an end. It's all about getting to the top. I'm not above aid climbing even, it's just with trad you carry less shit, that's all.
>>2844927>No don't drill the hecking rockerinos
>>2844934ty anon i want to get into ice at some point but i need to find a good mentor for that, any tips?
>>2840751How do I get a trad wife whose gear I can safely drop on?
Garbage thread
Just ordered the North Face Stormbreak 2. What tent are you rocking? What do you love and hate about it? What tent do you want?
>>2845112Obvious shill is obvious Do better marketing-intern-san
>>2827319The one you just ordered is my go to, I went camping around NM, CO, UT, and AZ for 2 weeks recently and it never had a single problem. You can set it up in around 8 minutes and it's all you'll ever need. Nothing special. >>2827357don't listen to this faggot, he doesn't go outside.
>>2846414Yeah man that other guy who replied is cooked. Its a great tent at a great price. Im glad its served you well, too. Thank you for the input!
>>2839113Me and my friend shared that tent when we hiked the West Coast Trail. It was great>>2839124Thanks!>>2839172Thanks for the info. Thats a great price. Did you end up going out with it?>>2839398Based>>2839400I used to do the tarp thing too. Getting old now i guess. Hating bugs!
>>2839595This looks comfy, bro. Very nice>>2839596Even better. Bravo>>2839675I hear you there. 600 is plenty when you've already got a good one>>2840452I use a tarp. There's no way im paying North Face 100$ for their version of a 10$ tarp>>2840613Sorry to hear that. You deserve better!>>2842736Kek. I am not a child and have money for hobbies>>2842783Did you try it!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/climbing-influencer-dies-live-streaming-140845585.htmlAnybody got the vid
>>2843818>yesHaha hey mom if you're here, look I'm greentexting!
>>2844245Basically you have a belaying device which you can rappel with. It is connected to you harness. It could be a figure 8, belay tube etc. If your device is not self locking you should use a braking knot which holds you if you let go of the rope. The knot on the end of the rope is a must.
>>2844649You tie a knot in the end anyway. It takes <1 minute and saves your life. This goober thought he could climb Yosemite but he didn't know to tie a knot at the end of the rope.
>>2844165There just won't be a response to that.
>>2846602>There just won't be a response to that.Well yeah, he’s dead. He won’t be responding to anything
Any one have any experience doing this job? What nonsense came with the position? Should I do it?
>>2843345I did helitack in Canada. Best job ever, great people, good summer money. Fought fires around Canada and down in Montana. Was our crew's tree faller towards the end, loved running the saw. Initial attack is so based, I worked hundreds of fires in just a few years.
>>2843345I was in fire from 2012 to 2021 including 8 years on a R6 IHC. It’s great when you’re a young guy. It’s definitely a lot of work and requires some extreme endurance and physical fitness - especially if you want to be on a type 1 module. I was usually middle of the pack in terms of fitness but I could still run a mile and a half in 9-930 minutes. When I started in fire I was on an engine and desu I have really fond memories of that experience - maybe even more so than being on the hotshot crew. It was a very chill environment and I don’t think I got more than 500 hours of OT in either year when I was on the engine. Obviously that meant I was poor and so I ended up working in timber during the winter instead of getting laid off. When I went to the hotshot crew, it was completely different; I don’t think I ever got less than 1200 hours of OT. But that meant I felt comfortable enough to get laid off and I ended up traveling a lot which was an awesome experience. But working that much burned me out and 2021 was a brutal year for me and I ended up quitting fire altogether. If I could do it again I probably would have gone back to the engines or rappelled, something that allowed more of a work life balance.
>>2843345Go for it. You'll see new places, make great friends, learn valuable lessons and be set financially in the winter months to do whatever you feel.Been in it since 2019 and will keep at it for another 2-3 years 'til I move on. USFS. Engines & Helitack.Apply for the feds on USAjobs.gov don't bother with private contractors or state agencies. Do a couple summers on an engine or Type 2 handcrew and move onto a Type 1 handcrew or helitack if aviation appeals to you.>>28433872nd what this guy said. Not a viable long-term career but you won't regret doing it in your 20's if you aren't burdened with any of those outside commitments. It'll set you up to springboard into and succeed wherever life takes you next.
>>2843387>>2844042DOD fire is the way to go
>>2843345>Should I do it?No. The Mexicans who mow my lawn get paid more for less work.
Do you bushcraft when you're /out/?
>>2846366((((Nose))))
>>2846445NTA but what's your point then? Are you just stating a truthism because you have nothing better to do with your time or are you attempting to contribute something useful to the conversation?
>>2846437>>2846441>be some asshole YouTuber I used to watch>make a video showing how to build a small cabin out of plastic wrap>comments rightfully point out how wasteful it is and how all that plastic is going to end up in the forest or in the dump>butthurt youtuber responds: "But you all use plastic in your day to day lives, so how can you criticize me! For we are the same!"This is how you know someone has a low IQ.
>>2846366yup but veeeeery simple using stone tools. i want to try and build a sweet track next in the marsh
>>2846441No way, I watched all the Garand Thumb videos about how not to get tracked.
