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A thread for all them big beautiful amphibians and reptiles you’ve seen while /out/. Snakes, frogs, turtles, lizards, and toads.
I miss seeing frogs and toads. When I was a kid you could let ride your bike down the road without seeing dozens of pancaked toads on the road… it’s been decades since I’ve seen that now.
This big bastard casually strolled through my lawn one morning so I captured it and let it go at the lake. I do not need any snappers hanging around.
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>>2873940
I’d say this is what you saw
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>>2873283
>>2873547
is that a common snapper?
I've seen lots of those but I really want to see an alligator snapping turtle in the wild. Anybody have tips for that?
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>>2875721
Alligator snappers are dicks.
They spend thwir time at the bottom of ponds. Best chance is to cruise roads around ponds after heavy rains or droughts when they head overland to find a new pond or suring mating season.
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>>2875721
Just a big common snapper.
Alligator snappers are pretty rare where I’m at but I have seen them along the river (Mississippi).
Most recent turtles. I couldn’t get a decent pic and only got a couple of them surfacing but there were at least half a dozen.
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>>2875721
Alligator snappers are twice as large, have bigger beaks/heads and have spiked shells. They rarely leave the water and only live in the southeast of the country.

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Hello. I have a challenge for you. You are offered $1,000 per hour that you drive. You can go anywhere and gas is infinite. So is food, water, and anything else you’d NEED.
How long do you drive for? Where do you go? How would you do it?
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>>2875004
What drugs were you on when you made this, other than LSD?
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>>2874959
>How long do you drive for? Where do you go? How would you do it?
As long as it takes.
Your mom's house.
Edging the whole time. Your mom is going to drown in baby batter.
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>>2874959
Depends on the details. Realistically the longest I’ve ever driven without breaks (except stopping for gas) was 14 hours. Would drive to Kentucky.
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>>2874959
16h at most. beyond that is suicidal, even pushing 14h is suicidal without taking drugs or caffeine pills/drinks
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>>2874959
Start a few hours before dusk, drive through the night get my second wind at sunrise, drive till sundown. I could do 20 hours with a piss jug.

#539- “boat fishing” Edition

Previous Thread:
>>2872194

janny pls…

Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!
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Talk about fishin
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0 fish
-1 lure
I hate everything
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>>2875903
I lost two slip bobbers to surf against rock and a lure snapped off this weekend for me, also no fish because they didnt read the chart
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Bros, I saw this carp get as close as 20 feet from the shore, would it be feasible to do something as stupid as using a bobber set-up to get a carp?
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>>2875908
It's not stupid, it's an actual thing to use a bobber for carp, as much as pike, you can even flyfish carp as they will eat nymphs as well
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Why are there nice places just 1 km away from nearest villages and a few km away from the nearest city where you barely ever see a human being? Can't people go out if there's no national park?

And for some reason, despite almost complete absence of people, there's always more or less garbage thrown here and there.
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>>2875807
Because the national parks contain:
a) Typically the most beautiful spots
b) Easily accessible spots
And most people are:
a) Not psychopaths
b) Want to enjoy nature WITH others around them
c) Just want a nice time out
d) Want to see nice things that don't take time to hike into or drive down sketchy unmarked roads
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>>2875807
People larp all the time here about how you need to drive six hours into the middle of nowhere to get true /out/ meanwhile there are suburban swamps and forests that haven't had a soul in them for decades
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>>2875825
>And most people are:
>a) Not psychopaths
>b) Want to enjoy nature WITH others around them
Does being introvert make you a psychopath?

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City boy here. Recently decided to learn to hunt. I knew hunting involved blood and guts, but I didn't realize you had to immediately cut out a deer's cunt/penis. That's so fucking grody. In an apocalyptic scenario where I kill a deer, is there a way to just remove meat without having to go at its junk?
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>>2875776
My mentor/ hunting dad/ old family friend who is basically my uncle gave me a book on field dressing deer off amazon. It helped me not be a total failure the first time, though I got a hog last month and accidentally sliced the tendon on one leg while skinning it. Made having a lot harder.
YouTube has plenty of information, look for Field Dressing A Deer
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>>2875776
https://youtu.be/ZNQfUpKi3lU?is=ojUStNopc822dScU
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>>2875772
You're not going to learn. You're not going to go. This thread is retarded.
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>>2875772
first at all, there are different positions to cut off a deer (laying on side, hanging heads down). I prefer the hanging method. for beginners, you might get a bar ending in two sharp hooks with a rope to pull your deer up a tree (same method works with any barn or butchering chamber), and stab trough deer back ankles to hook it up and pull. cut in front of its cake/wiener to solarplexus (better don't get the organs, only its skin) and break its chest up to the very front with secateurs or a sawing knife, and cut around the butthole and pelvis with care (not harming the "exit" for droppings and piss/cum), opening the underside of pelvis. while pulling the guts and other organs with one hand, make sure to grab its asshole and piss "hose" (English is not my mother's tongue, sry) with the other and keep it closed, when pulling out. better bring some water to clean it up (necessary if you messed up your shot and got its belly spinached), best with a lid that allows sqirting like a small hose
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Gutless method. It’s a bit more wasteful so some folks frown on it. You basically just zip down the spine and skin down as far forward as you need to. Take the meat off the neck, back straps, circle around the legs, chop or pry them loose from the joint, and you got your prime cuts and quarters.

I've been using a trailer on my bicycle for some time now. I reinforced the bottom, and swapped aluminium connection to steel so that I can safely get groceries which sometimes may exceed 50kg if I'm buying for example milk, sugar, flour in larger quantities.
I use a typical 28" dutch bike made by Union which is over 20 years old but it's very sturdy and served me for almost 10 years now (I'm a fat fuck).
So I want to ask whether it makes sense to get an ebike for this task or not. I'm worried that the engine or battery may get used up very quickly from the weight applied to the bicycle. I don't intend to use the electricity as the main means of transportation, instead for going uphill since it's difficult to pedal when you're already pulling weight behind yourself.
I guess it's also the matter of whether modern bicycles even have sturdy frames that can withstand pulling that much weight.
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>>2874923
Also if you want to know how to reinforce your trailer's floor - I personally used a plastic cover for the spare wheel in the trunk from an old Laguna. Slide it between the material and the frame, then drill some holes and screw that in. This is how these trailers should be made in the first place.
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>>2874923
Yes, it would work fine as long as you get one that is powerful enough. If you intend to pedal also then range won't be an issue. You can easily go 100 km with a 20 amp hour battery. The actual force on the frame is going to be almost nothing. You can do the physics calculations for the load you want to carry and the expected slope. You know it will always be less than half the weight of the trailer plus the rolling resistance. The frames of a bike can hold up to hundreds of pounds of force, but it will differ based on where you choose to attach it.
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>>2874923
Neighbor actually does this.
Seems to work fine.
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I wouldn't worry to much about the frame of the bike. Most e-bikes today use a middle mounted motor, som still use a front wheel motor but I wouldn't recommend that if you have a lot of uphill cycling since they tend to lose grip if you have a load on the rear of the bike. Bosch has a few newer lines that have a good amount of power to pull stuff, mostly the CX and cargo line. Stay away from AliExpress brands because when they are fucked it's way harder to find parts to repair them. The Accell (Sparta, Batavus, Koga and more) group uses a lot of their parts on multiple brands so if something breaks it is easier to find parts even for older models. I personally prefer Bosch over the Shimano system because you can fiddle with it easier and so many bikes use it that second hand batteries are easy to come by. Bafang has also come a long way and makes decent motors but most of them lack a bit of pulling power uphill. Both Bosch and bafang can easily be tuned for higher speeds if that is what you're after. I personally prefer the bobyak style trailer because it adds less resistance and because it has one wheel it fits better on trails. It's also connected on both sides of the rear wheel so less stress on one point and it doesn't jank the bike as much when you're riding on rough terrain.

Bicycle mechanic for 18 years, owner of a bicycle shop for 6 years now and traveling on a bicycle since I was 15. If I can help you with anything, just ask.
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>>2874923
You neother need a trailer, nor an e-bike for a mere 50 kg load.
Neither does towing a trailer require an e-bike, as you are very well aware since you're doing it.
Naturally an e-bike should be more capable of hauling a trailer short distance than a real bicycle, otherwise what would the point of it being motorized be?
>uphill
git gud or get the electric motorcycle
You're asking the wrong question. In my. experience the issue with towing trailers is not the power required or going uphill or anything but it is going downhill with a trailer that doesn't have overrun brakes (some do) and the e-bike is not going to help with that. Downhill is the limiting factor. Unless you get any sort of brakes on the trailer.

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I grew up in a non-/out/ family but became an /out/ist, primarily an angler. I'm buying a Passport, and one reason for buying this car is so that I can haul my fishing shit and sleep in it. I don't like "enjoying cozy moments with a freshly brewed cup of cruelty-free coffee". I'm fishing all day and eating dehydrated food or something from a gas station. I don't want to fuck around with a tent either. Fish then sleep.
I don't have wood working experience. How hard would it be to make a drawer system I can sleep on top of and also easily access my spare tire?
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>>2875436
Easiest would be to use plastic totes/Roughnecks. Building a raised platform with zero woodworking experience isn't a hard thing. My advice is keep it as simple as possible.
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>>2875455
That would be very simple, but I'd like to have drawers. I've been thinking about buying a Yakima drawer system as it is. The problem with the Yakima option is money and size (too small and too small to sleep on).
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post this on /diy/, they know their material.

I've slept in cars professionally. the kinds of drawers you are thinking of, where the trunk needs to open to get at your inventory, is not the sort of arrangement you want to have in your vehicle. It immediately tells the neighbourhood you are a pseudo homeless man and that creates later problems.

You only need a slab half the width of the one your picture shows. Then you put the drawers underneath that nestled so you can access them.
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>>2875635
>It immediately tells the neighbourhood you are a pseudo homeless man and that creates later problems.
I'm not camping in neighborhoods. This would exclusively be for state and county land, maybe, maybe the occasional truckstop. I won't sleep in my car often, but I will use it on fishing trips very often, hence why I want to open from the trunk.
Thanks for the /diy/ recommendation.

car camper looking to get some review on my "kitchen". binned up for easy porting, and only long-term perishables (hot sauce, seasoning, etc). certain items included due to fire-starting. i typically will do some steak/eggs + hashbrowns for brekkie, provolone/salami sandwiches for lunch which need no prep, and beans/brats for dinner. i've been out a couple times with my kitchen and haven't needed anything else but for some reason feel like i'm not utilizing all the space in the bin. who fucking knows.

please comment

>paper towels/paper plates/spork/spatula
>cig/candle lighter
>hand towel
>can opener
>plastic bags (trash/sandwich)
>wet wipes
>ferro rod
>hand axe/grindstone
>olive oil/hot sauce/salt/pep/seasoning salt
>steak/prep knife
>starter logs (backup for shit wood/laziness)

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all ye need is a tin cup and a smoll knoife
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>>2875288
Next thing food, drink, fuel and fire magically materialise just like your fave dilator.
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>>2875232
No jugs of water for wash/cleanup/cookin?
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>>2875620
this. fresh water is integral on a campout. i hate when i forget it and have to boil the shit out from a creek or whatever nearby.
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>>2875232
some stuff I bring that I don’t see here
>small cutting board for prep
>reusable steel plates and utensils
>dish soap
>water jug

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>socks
how do i not have these things turn into sweat sieves while dicking about?
i'm sure i have to get better socks, but what brand doesn't just get tons of holes after a little use?
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>>2870657
All these people talking about the type of socks are tards. It mostly comes down to the shoe. Only after that does sock choice matter. Get a well ventilated shoe first off.
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>>2873866
>(merino)wool sock itch me
that's not possible, it's a natural mat
you bought/got fake wool
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>>2873866
You can go for yak or llama wool. Just make sure you get one that is blended with synthetic fibers if you want it to not disintegrate after your first hike.
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>>2871642
>hiked 4000m peaks in sandals
where can you go that high without there being snow?
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>>2870697
this fag /outs/
>>2870731
consumer slop. this fag prob wears 6 pound whites walking his backyard

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A thread for paragliding, hang gliding, ultralight flying, and the like.
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>>2875139
I've been wanting to touch air, but I might be heightphobic.
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>>2875139
>>/n/
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>>2875506
you aren't suppose to fly indoors, if it's out it's /out/
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im 24 and might inherit a farm and house soon, what do i do with it? it used to have horses, cows, chickens, etc, they grew crops in a greenhouse, huge storage barn for machines, several garages for cars, a cabin to rent out for tourists (we get a lot of tourists here in the summer)

my grandparents own it, but they are getting old and cant take care of it anymore, they said they are thinking of selling it but offered i take it instead. they estimate they might live there for 1 to 7 more years before they sell it or give it to me. i have 0 farming experience but im willing to learn, i'd probably start off with something easy (chickens?), i love cats so maybe i could be a cat breeder? not sure how economically viable that is. or maybe i just live there and look for a job
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>>2875044
>make YT content
>build an ice-cream stand/shack for the tourist season
>raise chickens for personal use
>raise more chickens for selling+trading eggs and meat
>raise goats for milk
>make and run a campground
>make and run a camp for autistic kids with government grants
>make and run a corporate retreat
>grow corn and make a corn maze and charge admission
>plant bee-friendly flowers and charge/trade with beekeepers to set hives on your land
>become a hermit
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>>2875044
Farming is a job, owning a farm is a business. You don't have to be a farmer to own a farm, and I'd advise you start with that as your basis for how you're planning on making it work.Step zero is this >>2875077, but,
If I were as lucky as you, and I am practically in your position but 3 years after "inheriting" it, I'd get into a profession NOW. Anything that people in the area might need - law, engineering, surveying (what I do), accounting, real estate, nursing, policing, there are probably a dozen other professions you could choose from that rural people need. Work in that field, get good, get licensed, probably go to a state school, and set up shop in your grandparent's town.
Then, once you have a stable income and you've gotten to know lots of people in your grandparent's area as clients, think about hiring people to do some farm work, maybe planting some fruit trees in an orchard. Try it yourself first, but don't get emotionally attached to the idea of being the one that picks the fruit from the tree when it's grown. Find out how much time a task takes and learn how to do accounting for the work that others will do on the farm, how much you can pay, and how much you can earn.
Or, farming can just be a hobby. But I doubt that, without growing up as a farmer, it'll be your job.
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>>2875044
Rape dungeon
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>>2875044
start your farm, renovate the community center, kick the globohomo conglomerate out, and cuck the brown person married to the carpenter lady.
duh?
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>>2875044

Depends on your country and financial situation. Living purely off it is hard no matter what. You really need a big big place for it work as a business. Modern farmers, at least in Norway make it by being entrepreneurs, that just does a lot of shit (probably the same in the west in general) and having things paid down. Working a job, and then trying to accommodate side hustles via your farms is probably generally the best bet, but again depend on legal stuff. You might be bound legally to grow or work there.

Also important to underscore the side hustle and entrepreneurship. What a lot of people don't understand nowadays, that land in of itself opens a lot of doors in doing whatever. Having a big workshop or barn you can do whatever has a lot of value.

You need to hink like a business even if its just part time. Think about old timers and their houses and property. The family homes was run like a business. How might that look. Well you are actively using the space. Space is money, especially today with warehousing. Growing food obviously. How you store things is important. But things that we have forgotten is hilbilly stuff like eggshells --> cement and high emissivity paint. Aluminium --> all kind of shit --> aluminium oxide --> all kinds of shit. Biogas. Solar now --> opens a lot of doors obviously. oil/fats --> energy. Leftover fermentation --> alcohol. Any kind of transparant stuff or tubing has value once you become a maker. Sun becomes real estate for growing. Carpentry is a must, because space efficiency is a must, and people are extremely lazy about maximizing storage space nowadays. It sounds hillbilly and hippy, but this is just circular shit we all did back in the day. You don't need to do all this stuff, but so many have a bad mindset which ends in failure.

For growing, start doing research now on the stuff that takes time to grow, IE perennials, trees etc. Annual stuff is easy. You need 1 year to set up the farm(infrastructure).

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Any Sierra Nevada enjoyers on here? What lakes/trails are your favorites? Share your photos and stories here.
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>>2874771
>Share your photos
does your camera take normal pictures, or only side pics?
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First time in CA. Short hike and camp at Barney Lake, Inyo National Forest. Beautiful place. The mosquitos were terrible though.
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>>2875216
Yeah the mosquitoes can be rough spring/summer
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>>2874771
I've been trying to get my work to transfer me to Tahoe for a year, looks like next year it'll go through. What's the best area to live there and places to explore?
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I love the Sierra mostly because I really love waterfalls, and also Sequoia trees. The mountain scenery is generally not my favorite, a lot of the high Sierra is just too gray and lifeless for me, there's still some great areas though, and it's a huge range tons I haven't even seen. I've only spent time there in early Autumn (late September to mid October, fall colors are not that impressive compared to most mountain ranges by the way) and late Spring (late May to early June, goat waterfalls) so I guess I haven't seen the range at its most lush also.

Anyway, favorites, Yosemite is gorgeous of course. Best Sequoia groves are Muir, Giant Forest and Mariposa. Red Slate Mountain, nice colors in that area. Thousand Island and Garnet Lakes are really nice, I think that's where OP is too

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>I suspect that Ms. Huguenard' s
screams (which sounded eerily like a predator call) may have prompted the bear to return and kill
her.
https://www.nps.gov/aboutus/foia/upload/03-109_KATM_Treadwell_fatality_REDACTED.pdf

What did Larry mean here by “predator call”? Did he mean that the woman sounded like a bear in a predator mood or that she sounded aggressive?
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>>2875445
Predator sounds aren’t the sounds predators make (they don’t make sounds during the hunt) they’re the sounds made by wounded animals that draw predators in.

Women are actually really good at mimicking the sounds of dying prey, it’s sort of a high pitch screeching where the person is trying to stay quiet but because they’re hyperventilating the air is going across the vocal cords and making noise. You can hear that sort of noise in the aftermath videos of 9/11 and the Boston marathon bombing
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>>2875445
> What did Larry mean here by “predator call”?
People use noisemakers that mimic distressed animal cries to trick predators into coming into shooting range when they’re hunting. This is what Larry is referring to when he says predator call.

Of course, rather than being a noisemaker that’s fooling a bear, she was making authentic distressed animal sounds because that’s what she was, and that’s why the bear returned, her cries told him “free meat”.
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>>2875530
>People use noisemakers that mimic distressed animal cries to trick predators into coming into shooting range when they’re hunting.

I thought white people hunted stags? Why would stags investigate distressed noises?
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>>2875536
White people hunt dozens of things.
Distress calls are for coyotes, foxes, bobcats, mink, badger (not the friendly Eurasian ones), wolverines, raccoons, sables, fishers, cougars, etc.

I have a crippled rabbit distress call (it’s like a tiny clarinet) and playing it around Spitz dogs is hilarious.
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>>2875524
Her daughter is seeking attention like every other gash

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Hey pals. Currently roughing it outdoors (more out of poverty and homelessness than for recreation's sake) and getting over a mild case of trenchfoot. Being unable to walk much until I heal up, I was interested in your worst, scariest, funniest or most interesting health related issues you've encountered in the outdoors. Pic related
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Worst out health related issue I had was when I was about 21 years old and took a job in my home town as a clean up person for flooded areas that had occurred after the remnants of a hurricane had come through. My job was an old folks home that had flooded and needed cleaned up and repainted before the residents could move back in. About the 3rd day of sweeping and painting I started getting sick. Whatever was in the dust that had dried from the floodwaters I had breathed, and I was now in bad shape. Started out as respiratory infection and later my stomach. I took anti-biotics but was down for a good two weeks with flu like symptoms.
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I was hiking through a creek bed and there was a wire fence through the creek but it’d been bent over by time. Think nothing of it and hop over directly onto a board with a nail that proceeded to crucify my right foot. Had to hike out and drive myself to the hospital with my left.
Sucked.
Protect your feet you filthy homeless faggot. If you come on my property I’ll shoot you.
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>>2874467
I've had black toenails because I didn't use the right lacing technique and my salomon boots suck ass. I did a steep descent from a mountain so I don't know how long this will last, it's been like 3 weeks. It doesn't hurt or anything.

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General thread for freediving and/or spearfishing, since I don't see one mentioning either.

My personal questions:
I've been thinking about taking a certification course so I can learn to do these things correctly and safely. I'm probably happy just doing the diving, but spearfishing seems like an easy and practical extension. I only casually skindive and rod-and-reel fish at the moment. Does anyone have experience taking such a course?
I know I'll need my own gear early on, but each instructor I can find seems to have their own equipment shops, so I imagine they wouldn't be impartial about the quality of other gear on the market. I live on the Pacific coast of the US, so I see that a 7 mm open cell wetsuit is strongly recommended. What good/bad features should I look out for on wetsuits and other equipment? For non-competitive diving, carbon fiber fins are almost certainly not worth the price, right?
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Hello, is this sane? I'm thinking of making a DIY hookah diving rig with a chink bike pump from the Temu.
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im gonna get some sweet diving footage and upload it here, stay tuned people
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I haven't really gone freediving since I first got my certification a year and a half ago. I was missing it the other day, and decided to do a static breath hold for the sake of doing anything related to the sport. Without any recent practice, I reached 5:00 and probably could have done another 0:30 if I didn't wuss out. The last time I'd tried it was only 3:45, and I had been practicing with O2 and CO2 tables at the time. Relaxation must count for far more than I'd thought.
I wish I had more interesting stuff to discuss about the sport, but for now, it's all I've got.
>>2873936
Horrifying image
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Been getting my scuba cert so I have a mask and snorkel now, don't have lighter fins but some friends and I are heading to Rangeley Lake in a few weeks. Is it worth freediving the lake there? Never really done it before
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>>2875419
It's harder to relax when you're freezing your bollocks off but it doesn't hurt to try. Tell us how the water clarity is; I'm also a Maineac but the pond's I've tried diving in the visibility was shit.


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