20yo me is becoming self aware of where my future is headed. The thought of being a corporate work slave is haunting me day and night. Now I'm considering survivalism in the future. > now, the problems: I've never been out camping before . I don't know any people that know anything about this topic. infact , all my friends have pretty shitty lifestyles (myself included) I've never went out much in highschool , pent most of my time at home , was bad at pe. I have a bad diet and I rarely exercise. I'm pretty weak. You get the idea. >If anyone has ever 'trained' or 'prepared' for camping , hunting or any outdoor challenges then I'd appreciate any tips! I'm mainly looking for any small activities I could start with, important changes in diet , exercises to help with my aerobic performance etc
>>2880295>The thought of being a corporate work slave is haunting me day and night.I work as a BWCAW canoe guide in the summer and as a SCUBA instructor in the off season. I've been working in outdoor recreation for 7 years (25yo), went to college for it, and it's a brutal industry. The only alternative to working seasonally is to become a manager/owner - which is rare and not lucrative. The injury risk is one of the highest in the US according to the BLS. You're also highly exploitable as a worker. For example, the average client for my guiding service spends 1500 dollars for a one week trip. That is my entire month's wage. I take out roughly 16 clients a month, and facilitate their entire experience. Despite delivering everything (helping them route plan, teaching them to canoe, rendering them first aid, cooking, setting up camp, teaching them to fish, portaging the heaviest gear, and making the trip memorable) I make 1/16 of the profit. If you don't want to be a wage slave, you're not going to find an "out" in the outdoors as a working class person. Self-isolation is not an escape. The only escape is to learn how to be an organized worker, regardless of how /out/ your job is. The IWW (labor union) offers free weekend-long bootcamps on how to organize your workplace. They taught me how to work together with my coworkers. After training with them, we were able to manufacture a strike when my co-worker was fired and got them rehired. My coworkers and I demanded our sick guide get proper medical attention, and we won it. Just going /out/ won't make your life better, working together with others to change the status quo will.>trainingDon't buy anything. The pros (hotshots and SERE specialists) prioritize a sub 10min 1.5 mile run and training muscular and aerobic endurance (high rep pushups, pullups, situps) which requires no money except good running shoes. If you want to backpack, go slow. You need a strong running and weight-training foundation for your legs.
>>2880295I started solo camping + bushcraft camping at around 17. I was (and still am) pretty fucking fat. My major tip for you is to just get out there and do it. Also, bring more than 1 method of lighting a fire. stay safe bro.
>>2880295Become a forest ranger. They'll train you for it.
>>2880295Spend your weekends camping and wageslave during the week. After many years of practice, you will become a skilled survivalist. You cannot survive indefinitely in the wild anymore, unfortunately. Therefore it is necessary that you build a career and hopefully one day have enough funds that you can spend more time in the wild.
>>2880295Self sufficiency is impossible. Humans have always lived in groups and relied on others with only exceedingly rare exceptions. In current year this difficulty is made worse by diminished resources in nature, government oversight/taxation, satellite imagery, and increase in population.What you can do is work seasonally/sporadically, buy land, and build a cabin.You need money for taxes, tools, materials, food, medicine, etc. because you don't have a "tribe" to cooperate with, so the best compromise is to work a bit so you can have the rest of the year to yourself. It's what I did and it became very lonely and depressing because no matter how schizotypal you are spending months without human interaction rots your brain.
>go hiking in Eastern America>99% of view is thisi need to get out of here
>>2881619The east is alright if you know where to look
>>2882064>If some gay little frog goes extinct then that's its lotHe said while posting Pepe in 2026.
>>2882064Fuckload of VT that's thick forest today was cleared out from logging 100+ years ago. Forests grow back quick.No opinion on forest management, just throwing in a tangent about how wildly different Vermont looked a century ago and how quick forests actually grow back in.
>>2882842>150 years>quick
>>2881771hurr hurr hurr. Great post anon
/Chickens General/I didn't notice a dedicated thread for Chickens, so I figured I'd start one. This thread is for all things related to Chickens, your strategies in raising them, the types of genetics you favor, the environmental threats we have to worry about, and how to prepare for an economic and social collapse.Post all your chicken related Questions and Insights, help other anons establish their flock, or pick up new information for your own use.Resources:>Survival Chickens.https://thesurvivalgardener.com/free-range-survival-chickens-is-here/>Harvey Ussury Managing a small scale Flock:https://themodernhomestead.us/>Intro to Heritage Breedshttps://youtu.be/uhhEenOL0g0?si=n2U0fWQT-_-g0fIj>Why Modern Chickens are DefectiveComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2881444You still have them?If you do then it's good to make a small pond or even use a small pool for kids,they will love the water.
>>2881446Yep. I’ve got a “pond” for him but it’s just a buried 100 gallon stock tank. House is paid off looking for property in the country but you know… nothing’s cheap or easy.
>>2881433Do they have trees to roost in? What is your setup like?I just put my 9 week old Icelandics out in an Aspen Grove. The trees are tall and they can fly up really high, but with the trees losing their leaves I'm worried some owls might get them.
the marten fucker killed 20 of my dwarf chickens. i've put a trap on the entrance and i will kill and consume that demon meat by meat
>>2882853I’m telling you get a killing stick.
the debate that tore /out/ in half...
>>2881866Poncho can cover your backpack, keeping it nice and dry
>>2882800>not owning a waterproof dyneema pack in 2026
>>2882816Yeah im not taking a $200 gearfag backpacking bag every time i go hike.My $10 ozark trail backpack and $20 poncho will do just fine
>>2882310Just got my hectobuck gloves. Great fit (XL, their largest offering), very supple and comfortable.
The sheepskin is exquisitely supple.
How is your experience with night hiking, anons? There's a big forest reserve in the middle of town and I want to lose track of time and walk around in it at night. It might be the difference of only a few people I'd otherwise meet but I want the peace of knowing I'm alone. There are some coyotes apparently but no bears or montain lions probably. I bought a bear horn and a stick just to be careful. Anyway I feel like I could walk forever in this sort of environment and I'd get a lot of exercise
>>2874700Seems unwise, you'll need a flashlight so you don't walk into orb weaver webs but if it's a city park full of schizos and crackheads you don't want to be seen.
>>2880569I did nightly hikes around north bend for a couple weeks, can confirm I was shitting myself. Started bringing a gun then just stopped. Not so bad to be the first person on the trail just before dawn though.
>>2874700Anon, my friend died this way.He went off trail. No big deal, but he was exploring the high north country. He didn't have much experience at that latitude.I think he got turned around and realized his GPS had no signal out there. Again- usually no big deal. He tried to make his way back from memory.If he had just stayed put, he would have been fine. Night falls early in the high latitudes. He panicked. He had no flashlight. Even in Autumn, it got freezing out there when the sun went down, so he tried to hike out in the dark.All of these factors compounded. He lost his footing. He fell down an embankment and broke his leg. He couldn't climb out due to the injury.It took them a week to find him, and by that point he had died of exposure and dehydration.If he had brought a flashlight. If he hadn't tried hiking out at night. If he hadn't gone off the trail... all of these things run through my mind.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2874700I once stumbled upon a sleeping deer while out in the woods. It was the most terrifying experience of my life.
>>2874700It gets spooky and if the trail isn't obvious you can get turned around a lot more frequent. You'll see random eyes reflect off your flashlight at times, but not be able to see what it was. Occasional strange animal noise.But if there's no bears or mountain lions you're fine. Coyotes aren't going to go after you unless you're like 4' tall and visibly exhausted.Get a headlamp, decent flashlight, and have backups.
are (sub)urban walks /out/?just getting my start with other outdoor activities, but this I've always enjoyed. We've also been able to get a car, so my options are greatly expanding.
>>2882615thank you anon, I shall wear it (on my shitty html website) with prideI'm looking forward to the next time I go, will try getting some pretty photos of what I see for the board
>>2882571I'd say so.Just getting started myself as well.Walked few kilometers to a fire making place, made a fire and enjoyed some sausages.
>>2882719oh man, I recognize that sausagewe used to grill it over the open fire when we were small, mom stopped buying them because they "contained little meat". Had a chance to taste one some time ago, still tasted as godly as I remembered. Should try doing that myself (and learning to start fires with little equipment sounds fun as well), thanks for the idea.
>>2882809photo is from me waiting for public transport, not a walk, but I found it nice
>>2882571Yes, you're outside and enjoying nature. That's way more out than bitching about gear or Köppen system is the best.
can anyone recommend a good pair of hiking boots? price doesn't really matter, i'm just trying to get a decent pair of boots that won't bust a hole straight through the bottom like my last pair (my walking posture is fine)
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>>2843610Altama makes great boots and shoes.
>>2843610Get a pair of carolina elm loggers. Break em in at work. Go hiking. Been my hiking boots for 10 years. Finally on 2nd pair never had an issue. Farthest i went in a day was 20 miles.
fall / winter in new england help me choose-zamberlan trail lite $300-zamberlan trail lite evo $325-jim green + a pair of dedicated snow boots ~$300-some normal waterproof hiking boot like salomon or keen or some shit. dont recommend moabs they hurt my ankle
Been hiking, fishing and bushwalking in my black keen targhees the past 5 or so years. They're tanks. I have wide feet and the toe box is sufficiently roomy unlike almost every other fkn brand I've tried besides my old columbias I got 10-15 years ago.https://youtu.be/1HuBj4Nk2N0
Looking for some hiking and/or work pants, any recommendations? Should have pockets on the side, be durable, allow freedom of movement. Been looking at the the fjallraven vidda pros. any experience with them? any other recs?
>>2882607goddamn, they couldnt come up with more cringe names for their pants, could they? what is the target audience here?
>>2882643>reeeing about the namebut what about the pants?
>>2882565dickies duck pants. fuck them brambles.
>>2882565Vidda pros are dogshit. They changed the fit to fashion over function. I also got a hole in mine in no time.Just get dickies relaxed cargo ($20-30 on sale) or big bill cargo pants ($60 and careful of tarrifs with trade war) from tractor supply co (cheapest place). Former is cheaper but latter is more durable and made in Canada from us fabric. Both are 65/35 polycotton, same material composition as vida pros except vida pros is a thinner canvas as opposed to twill.My only con with either is not cinches are the bottom to keep out ticks but it wouldnt be hard to get some elastic cord and thread it through.The only other durable pant (besides wool) id recommend is surplus nyco bdus. They have twill versions and ripstop. The latter is lighter weight and dries better.Nylon is more durable than polyester BTW but polyester dries much faster. Nylon runs cooler and polyester runs warmer. Polyester is also more flammable but ive never had sparks take out my dickies. Did have it affect a fjallraven shirt though.I've tried most the options and blown plenty of holes in the crotches due to bad design.Fjallraven is a fashion company now that overcharges. I looked past that and bought some and couldnt believe the fit and lack of durability.G1000 is just polycotton. Its not a miracle technology. Also dont buy into the wax bullshit. It will just make the pants not breathe and its never 100% waterproof. If anything just wax knees and seat.If you want waterproof buy rain gear pro or louisiana professional wear outer pants. Those are polyurethane coated and will give at least a good 5 to 10 years of waterproof. 0 breathability but its what loggers and sailors use. I prefer breathable pants though and waterproof top unless im in heavy brush or sideways heavy rain.
Didn't realize thread was filled with euro fags.Dont have a lot of experience here but bdu is the perfect pant design. If you dont want to tear the crotch you want a higher waisted pant with a reinforced seat.People keep adding bullshit to their low waisted pants to 'fix' the design and it never works. Diamond crotch, elastic gussets whatever. Its all shit. Low waisted increases tension on the seams whereas high waisted relaxes the stress points.Austria sells quite a bit of surplus pants and they seem pretty nice. They are only 50/50 polycotton so wont dry as fast. Theyre also green so wont look too much like the stolen valor chic.The Swedish wool surplus Pants are gold. Idk if they still sell them or not. The old west German ones are good too. I didnt like the fit of the Finnish either but the material was good.I had a friend that had some made in Italy that were good workwear similar to dickies and big bill but forgot name.Most the replica manufacturers are dogshit. I know helikon makes replica m65 us bdus. The fabric is good on those but idk about stitching. Most of helikon is just cheaper fjallraven in terms of cost and build quality thoAlso if youre looking for quality 100% waterproof go for 420 denier polyurethane coated nylon. That's what the Louisiana and rain gear pro are made of. Theres other people making the exact same fabric/coating. Pu will last longer than goretex since less points of failure.>>2882678Only go duck cotton if in a completely dry environment.
Not totally sure this is ginseng, anyone with any more experience know? I dont think it's a buckeye or creeper or anything like thatAlso general foraging thread because I couldn't find anywhere else to post stuff like this. I've always been a mushroom guy, and I can identify those all day long. But this is my first wild plant I've harvested. Only after harvesting I'm having second thoughts. My plan is to make tea with it, but ya know I don't want to kill myself or go to the hospital
Op here, this is most certainly not ginseng. But feel free to post foraging stuffIf anyone identifies this let me know id still like to find out what it is
>>2882608plant ID app says shagbark hickory
>>2882608It's always helpful to mention in what part of the world you found the plant you're trying to identify
>>2882610id go with thisan excellent tree too
>>2882610>>2882720Very good trees. I hope anon gets it back in the ground.
Does anyone have good advice on how to get rid of hornets around the garden? I discovered (painfully) a nest of bald faced hornets in a bush right next to my garden gate. They attacked me when I was pruning, stinging me repeatedly. To make matters worse, there is also a ground hornet nest nearby that is active.I garden organically--but frankly, the poisons don't work all that well (have used them in the past). I set out multiple bait traps containing apple juice, boric acid, apple cider vinegar (to repel good bees). It seems to be helping--the hornets take it back to their nest and feed it to the queen and larvae. But it is a slow process. Has anyone tried other techniques to get rid of them? They have caused me to avoid going into one whole section of my yard.
>>2880554I work on an organic farmI use a pump sprayer filled with a solution of water with a bit of dish soap in it.Works great, the surfactant in the soap breaks the surface tension of the water and allows it to coat the bodies of the insects, effectively drowning them in short order.Don't put too much soap or it will be too thick, you want it watery.Wait until they are in their nest when it is night or otherwise cold out with no sun directly on the nest.I put on a bee suit, grab a shovel, and start soaking the entrance to kill the guards, then start digging and spraying until I find the comb.At this point I will usually have a bucket of soapy water on hand to dump on the nest, while breaking up the nest with the shovel.The soapy water sprayer also works great on ones that build nests above ground, the nests disintegrate under the stream of water and the bugs get soaked, dropping to the ground and dying.Soapy water trick works for every kind of insect I have tried it on.
>>2880554Sarracenia Leukophylla/Flava. Thank me later.
>>2882538Idk man I think a hornet would win.
>>2882538What is the purpose of this particular plant?
>>2882693Carnivorous plant. Looks like a type of pitcher plant. Carnivorous plants usually have some sort of scent lure for certain bugs. Those trumpet looking things are essentially flowers that are usually filled with an enzyme fluid that attracts and digests bugs. They climb in, fall into the liquid enzyme, die, and are digested.Carnivorous plants are absolutely based, but they're extremely difficult to cultivate. It's a shame because they're as close to alien life type sci-fi shit that we have.
anyone tried Vibram five finger shoes? i'm inspired by Cody from Dual Survivor but barefoot is too hardcore for me. i'll have to use mail forwarding services to get these to my country and so i wont be able to return them if they dont fit, and they look really risky to gamble on. maybe i should get Merrel shoes instead. i just want to feel the terrain more
Check your arches before trying barefoot shoes.I was wearing Saucony Kinvara 12 for the past year and now I have damage to my metatarsals and foot pain all the time when I walk.The extra bonus is that after a year of barefoot shoes, my feet have widened and no longer fit into regular shoes.I kind of regret it, bros.
>>2876534WHAT ARE THOSE!?!?!?!
OP here i forgot about this thread because the shoes took ages to arrive but I'm very happy with them. followed their size guide and they fit well. i much prefer these to non-barefoot shoes for varied terrain and hiking. pavement/night walks are still ambiguous as these shoes expose my shitty gait and how im putting too much weight on my heels but hopefully i can adapt and change my ways. i notice they get warm in the sun so i dont recommend buying black depending on where you live
>>2876534without thinking much maybe i would have scoffedbut we need our toes for stabilityit does make sense to free them like thisbut maintain a synthetic sole underneathfor various terrain and situations where youcan run, climb, or whatever quickly and aggressivelylike japanese tabi are actually quite good.these could be decent.i like the metal clips on tabi(however they look like hooves)there are many points of failure on this butif they do hold up well as >>2876552this anon provides the context for thenid say they are good.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2876534just get barefoot shows with a wide toebox + thin sole. Those toes look retarded
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>>2882722Where the fuck are you seeing any pink in this photo? You should get your eyes examined. That said, i wish it was bright fuchsia, thats my favorite colour for swinging up lake run rainbows.
>>2882725Your finger is reddish pink. It's partially in the photo.
>>2882725fuck you i'm colorblind, that's why i asked in the first placeand it isn't exactly far from pink you twatalso not beating the flyfishermen allegations with your fruity ass rodcool craftwork tho
>>2882737>isn't exactly far from pinkIts white. White is farther from pink than orange is from brown. Sorry about your disability, that sucks.>fruity ass rodAgain, its white. Itd be cool if it was pink, but its white- off-white 'natural' glass blank, white thread, silver guides. The only not white parts are the cork and the carbon fiber reel seat. >>2882737>cool craftwork thoThanks anon
>>2882746>>2882746>>2882746new
Keep it classy. Keep it campy.
>>2880322>"Bubbas could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this valley before. There could be bubbas anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his bare chest. "I HATE bubbas" he thought. The cricket noise reverberated his entire hammock, making it pulsate even as the $9 tea circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of larpers after dark. "With a hammock, you can sleep anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.
>>2880518>He's loadedI thought his neighbor sued him or he was in a lawsuit with his neighbor or some other nonsense. Am I confusing him with a different YouTuber.
>>2880587he should be in prison for killing his wife and best friend
>>2880227wow jujimufu has switched niches?
>>2880227QRD?
I am looking for a book that instructs on basic survival skills. Not some loons manifesto, but just bare bones survival skills.Do you have any recommendations?
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Can you explain more about what you're looking for in a survival manual/book? How barebones, how short, how much information, just the skills or would you also consider knowing what gear to bring a skill too? What does your ideal survival book look like?
>>2878792The USAF Handbook 64-4 (otherwise known as the SERE handbook). The USAF survival school is the world's premiere survival school. It's very barebones, but is what air force survival instructors, pilots, aircrew, special operations airmen, and astronauts study to prepare for going down in enemy or remote territory. I am a BWCAW guide, and was lucky enough to train with a consultant for the RCAF (Canadian air force), who introduced me to a lot of SERE Specialists (USAF survival instructors) that go their start in my guiding service. One guy, goes online by IA Woodsman, and he has a literal bible of USAF quality SERE skill demonstrations on youtube.>https://www.youtube.com/@iawoodsmanThe USAF SERE Cadre also recommend the following books for those interested in survival skills:>Be an Expert with Map & Compass, Bjorn Kjellstrom>Army Manual FM 21-26 (Land Nav)>The Basic Essentials of Map & Compass, Cliff Jacobson (great American canoeist whose circles I've also run in)>A Comprehensive Guide to Land Navigation on GPS, Noel Hotchkiss>GPS Made Easy, Lawrence Letham>The SAS Survival Handbook, John Wiseman>Staying Alive in the Arctic, Frank Heyl>How to Stay Alive in the Woods, Bradford Angier>Fieldbook, Boy Scouts of America>Tom Brown's Field Guides>High Angle Rescue Techniques, Tom VinesComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
For EXTREMELY basic, go to the 2nd hand book shop and get old boy scout handbook and boy scout field book.
post cool infographics and all kinds of informative pics
>>2882496elaborate please
>>2879179lmao who the fuck made this. it definitely wasnt national geographic
>>2882496Get this guy some November Juliett
>>2882523yes they did, dumbass. they had a whole fucking show about it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKBTrMH7SeI
>>2882526Oh it was a meta thing from the perspective of the irrational people exploited for a shitty reality TV show
