*gets on you*
>>2840470>Willis tower I meant, that's taller
>>2838661I guarantee this person has never been outside.I walk into a spider web going to my car every day. It's a non-issue and doesn't ever matter at all.>>2838735Tick: it's a physical creature which has embedded itself into your flesh and bitten a hole inside you, and if you pull it off its head will break off and remain inside you, and it transmits some of the worst incurable diseases we know of.Mosquito: it flies to you, sticks a long needle in you, deposits various chemicals in you, and sometimes transmits bacteria and viruses which transmit serious illnesses.It produces an extremely itchy wheal that persists for days or weeks.Spider web: it does nothing. You walk in it once, it breaks, it deals no damage, nothing happens. The spider that created has no ability to get on you, and it does everything it can to get away from you because you are not its target.Women who have never been outside need to stop posting. Sorry you walked into a spider web, but deal with it.
>>2840555>and if you pull it off its head will break off and remain inside you, and it transmits some of the worst incurable diseases we know of.this should not happen if you pull it off correctly. Grab it and gently pull straight up, don't twist, jerk or pull at a shallow angle.
>>2840555I would 100% rather have to peel off a couple ticks than have to deal with all the silk strings getting on me walking through a forest in the fall
Would you like to live in mountains?
>>2840706mountains* plural, shitskin
I live in the mountains
>>2837416nta, but we have a similar situation here in Bend, the city is only like 7mi long but the elevation difference along with the layout of the mountains to the west (where most of the weather comes from) means that there's a radical difference in weather between ends of the city, the south where I live can get 2-3x as much snow as the north end of town. (As evidenced by this pic, I took it when I was moving into the current house and the same storm only dropped like 3-4" at my previous place at the north end of town.)
>>2840743Oh, I should say that the pic was taken the next morning, and it didn't snow overnight. It was way deeper when I got there.
>>2840744I was born and raised in Salem and moved to Bend for a while. It was weird getting snow. I think I saw snow twice in 10 years in Salemagain, not a huge difference in elevation between Salem and Bend, but completely different climates.
I'm planning on going to the summit of the Kilimajaro and later the Aconcagua on the slower easier routes. What kind of preparation people do fitness-wise? I live at around 800m above sea level and work out every day. I'm fit enough so can run 10km in 1h and people said i will be fine but idk if they did so i would use their expedition services.I've already done multiple days hikes but nothing quite as high and altitude fucked me up when i was in Peru.
>>2840696so it's not worth it to just go through the discomfort for next time to eventually get better at conditioning? oxygen cans are quite cheap feel like every moron carries a dozen of them
>>2840695>is using oxygen a cop outyes, but it can also be useful to help acclimate if you have the time and only use it when you're feeling particularly awful. for a quick hike it probably does more harm than good though. You won't really have time to acclimate, and oxygen is just going to make the process slower. Might be good to have in case of severe sickness though.
>>2840697>to eventually get better at conditioning?this isn't really a thing. Unless you go to altitude regularly, you're never going to get better at acclimating. Every time you go back to low country for a couple weeks you have to start over on your conditioning. Right? I live at high altitude but I still suffer altitude sickness every time I go on vacation to the beach for a couple weeks and then come home. It never gets better, and the more you do it the greater your risk of severe injury.
Didn't see anyone using oxygen to get to the summit of Kilimanjaro but there were people who were treated with it while coming back down. Funny thing is that the guides generally didn't have canisters on them, they had latex gloves inflated with oxygen and would let people who were delirious to take a hit off the glove. I used Diamox, starting with half a pill on day two, moving to a full pill on day four. I didn't have any problems with exhaustion but did have some mild hallucinations starting around the time we had lunch at Karanga. As far as condition goes, I did a good bit of hiking on local hilly terrain but didn't do anything special beyond that. 4000 ft was the max altitude for that hiking so it did nothing to help prep for altitude issues. The other big difference is that Kili has areas of lots of scree, which can be annoying if you're not accustomed to it.A year later I hiked around Ecuador and had some issues with getting out of breath at high altitude but I wasn't taking Diamox and we often drove to a high starting point so acclimation was minimal.More than anything, paying for more days on the mountain is what will have the biggest impact on your odds of success. If you can find a copy of the Imax movie about Kilimanjaro, you'll find the climb more interesting as you'll have background info on many of the things you'll see.
>>2840704>More than anything, paying for more days on the mountain is what will have the biggest impact on your odds of success.This. Kilimajaro is notorious for the frequency and severity of altitude sickness among climbers because of how quickly the budget companies try to get everyone up and down. If you can afford to take your time, do so. It will be far safer and a hell of a lot more enjoyable.>t. Dr who's provided medical support to mountaineering expeditions.
Was he retarded? or free?
>>2840261Traded my soul to a demonThe demon styled my hair in such a way that it shadowed my face when the sun was high, giving the gothic makeup appearance you see in the photo. The demon is pretty good at hair.
>>2830741He actually identified the correct plant to eat he would have been fine eating that but he put it in a plastic bag that made it mold that mold caused paralysis.
>>2840649muh mold is all just a speculation. the fact is that even with berries he would stave to death.
>>2840653It is deducted reasoning not a retarded guess. the test they did was months later after the shit was dried out and moved around a million miles. And they tested the plant for alkaline enzymes instead of just visually identifying it. Lab test basically came back saying inconclusive like most lab tests.
>>2840653>the fact is that even with berries he would stave to death.thiskrakauer perpetuated the myth that you can survive out in the woods as long as you don't make some technical error like eating toxic plants or mold or whatever.this is bullshit, he would have died just the same whether he ate poison or not. There simply aren't enough calories and fats out there to keep him alive.
Blue Grosbeak Editionpost you're bird photos
the swans are down to two cygnets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siltthis is so beautiful.
>>2840013my favourite thing about canada is that almost all of it is entirely fucking empty, tired of jeets? drive 4 hours north and you'll never see one again.
>>2840264>gets eaten by a bear
>>2840013>Northwest Territorieswhat even goes on there? im a PAtard and I know some locals that go up to the Georgian Bay to fish. never been much further than that
>>2840617>gets eaten by bugsFtfy. Probably 3M x the biomass in insects over bears.
Do people in Japan really buy hundreds of dollars worth of gear just to backpack half a mile from the bus stop to a gravel patch in someone's back yard?Granted it doesn't seem that much different from western people buying hundreds of dollars of gear just to camp in some dirt by the side of the highway, but is that really what /out/ is like over there?
>>2840289>Australia.: 3.5 people/km^2Too bad most of it is desert scrub wasteland
>>2840273Population density doesnt really matter if there is still a road every couple miles. America has roadless wilderness that you can go days in a single direction before coming upon any evidence of human development beyond trails
>>2840169>backpack half a mile from the bus stopMost of /out/ innawoods is a 10 minutes walk from their truck.
>>2840169Yes. Japan is kinda fucked up when itcomes to trails - you have the fully manicured tourist trails, which will often even charge admission fees, and the maintenance trails for electrical lines (and in some places, AA missile bunkers), and that's it. Since most farms have large, continuous plots of land, their dirt trails don't link up with each other, only with the road, and often will be fenced off completely.If you want to walk on trails for more than ~5km, and don't have access to military training grounds, the only option is the electricity lines.Add to that that most japs are softies who can't bear being without a comfortable bed or flush toilet, end you end up with a bunch of cucks who'll drive their fully loaded keicar to a "campground" in sight of the highway, pay 1500JPY for trail admission, walk 2km to some "wild" spot, have a drink from the vending machine there, snap a picture, walk back, build a fire, sleep in a tent (unless it rains even slightly, in which case they'll run for their car), then tell all their coworkers how they "roughed it".Now, to be fair, Hokkaido is supposedly different, and I've heard some japs complain about "terrible" campgrounds there that sounded great to me. But The main islands and okinawa suck when it comes to /out/.
>>2840325>it’s just too densely populated and there will always be a town on the horizonNot true at all. Get away from the coast and the main valleys, and there's almost no towns, just single remote farms. Even on Okinawa, with all of it's 100km of length, you can hike in the jungle for 50-60km without seeig a single house. Only problem is that most of the trails there will be fenced off, so you'll be stuck to walking on the road.>problem with camping is that it’s actually illegal outside of designated areasNot quite true, sleeping bag and tarp is unrestricted. Same as Germany, funnily enough, which for me meant I could just use the gear I already had.>which are all plots of gravel right next to roads and towns like that. It’s dumb that there don’t seem to be any other options.There are. Can't upload it here due to format, but there's a map going around the net with all "free" campgrounds. Mostly city-owned plots. Downside is that you need to call ahead to the city office and announce your stay in Japanese, and I can tell you from experience that if thy can tell you're a foreigner, they sometimes refuse you.Also, there's shelters along the road, which are city property and where you can legally sleep in.>I have heard someone say the cops found them once and just asked if they had permission from the mountain ownerAsians, I guess? with whites and blacks, at least if they use milsurp, cops will generally assume they're burger soldiers, call the military police from the nearest base and fuck off. The you politely tell the burgers they don't have jurisdiction over you, and move on the next morning.
I only have enough RAM in my head to memorize five knots. Which ones should I learn?
>>2840146round turn chadsi use it for everything
>>2839750Memorize bowline 5 times
>>2839801What useless post. KYS
>>2839750I usually use bowline, alpine loop, clove hitch, double half hitch and reef knot, you can pretty much do whatever you need to do with them and they're all very simple. There are more co.plicated autism knots that can do some stupid hyper specific shit which is great but you could probably get by with a combination of simple knots and a bit of creativity.
I use the two half hitch and taught line hitch to hang my tarp and thats like the only thing I ever need to tie knots for
Easily the most underrated /out/ state. It's funny how so many people just think Nevada is a desert
>>2840305Not an answer
>>2840236Wait If I stop by Ely will people think i'm going for brothels?
>>2840390>>2840258>>2840236The only thing you do in Ely is stop for gas. Tourists desperately want to believe they've found some sort of "local spot" that nobody knows about but Ely is a gas stop when you're going from the western or southern side of the state, to Utah, or vice versa. They also have hotels when you've given up on tenting it during hunting season. Don't overthink Ely, it's really not that complex.
>>2840394youre mistaking ely for wells retard, youve never been to nevada
>>2840236Do people not know how to leave their cars and walk? You can be up to verdant alpine meadows in a couple hours from Ely nearly every direction
how do i traverse this? im going innawoods in northern ontario next weekend and going off-road but it seems like muskeg is absolutely fucking everywhere and i'm scared to walk on or go across it because i heard shit like caribou can just sink inside it with no warning and are unable to get back up, plus its all wet as fuck and its insect heaven and its like walking through really thick mudis muskeg just untraversable? is this why nobody lives or goes off road anywhere in northern ontario? just because of this swamp-like abomination?
>>2840291They has this shit all over norway and scotland and it's a bitch to walk through, my dog kept sinking through it LOL. The best method is to aim for the tall bunched up grass because all the roots seem to be structurally strong enough to hold you for a few seconds. I guess you could do the same with the saplingsObligatory bear grylls bog https://youtu.be/V10nUzWJUhI
>>2840291Same way as the animals living there>low surface pressure, snowshoes>long legs that usually touch the bottom, stilts>buoyancy, a life jacket>flight, complex machinesIn general these places just suck to traverse and are avoided if at all possible.
>>2840291just wear your trail runners. you'll be fine.
>>2840450Even moose get stuck in muskeg sometimes, it's hellish terrain.
>>2840411this, we got them in ikea land as well, fucking hellscape
Extremely fun, addictive hobby, I am thinking of becoming one of these degeneratesMy only pet peeve is that, how does the TPU Nylon handle fishing hooks? What are your personal experiences?
>>2836617Very durable for being inflatable, but still can get punctured. I wouldnt agree with the other anon about not worrying about objects, rocks and wood can def scrape and cut the sides. But small abrasions from that are easy to seal. It can also depend on the raft, the more serious whitewater are more durable.
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I'm convinced these are overly hyped up by marketing companies. I had one, it was great other than how big and heavy everything was (alpacka gnarwhal)
>>2840414There are some awesome remote lakes in the adirondacks that you would have a nightmare of a time trying to hump a real boat to.I'm going to upgrade from my current setup for next season and grab a small kayak anchor to bring along for fishing. Casting from and paddling this thing was pretty shitty. Hopefully the packraft thing is an upgrade
>>2840414You got a whitewater boat, of course its gonna weigh more. You could get an alpacka scout that weighs less than half that
In my heart there are two men. The first is primal and wild, a forest dweller living in defiance of nature as a triumphant victor of resource conquest. He can build fire with his hands, slay prey, and reroute river systems. The second owes the bank money and wage slaves away to live a dull, unadventurous, and sterile, life completely devoid of exuberance and vitality. Anons in similar spirits, how do you cope?
>>2836366Back to plebbit, larper. If you could do half of that, you wouldn't be indebted.And for all the kiddos reading this thread and now considering suicide: It's not that hard. I live halfway off the land myself, and know a lot of guys doing the same, and we've all gone through more or less the same steps:>finish school, get some further educationuniversity in my case (high IQ and scholarship, would've been stupid not to), but most did tradie stuff where they got paid for learning.>lived with grandparents, or in some cases, parents for the first few years while earning starting money>buy beehives, woodland, orchards or grassland, or a combination thereof, then make some money on the side from thatIt's not much, especially while working, but having 200€ or so extra a month gets you a bit further, and more importantly, any food you harvest yourself, you don't have to buy.>at 25-30, buy a house with a large garden, usually from grandparents (or their heirs, if they've already died), sometimes friends, and in one case a coworker of mine helped some old guy with houserepairs a few times, and then got that guys house for 1€ shortly before his death, just so the kids who'd neglected him wouldn't get itGenerally in the hinterlands, where houses are cheaper - in my case, I got a bit lucky, and by next year (once the inheritance stuff is settled), can buy my dead grandmas farm right at the edge of the forest, where all the tourists go.>at this point, some debt is to be expected, but it's usually at a level where it can be paid off in 5 years or so, and you've already got a house, large garden, and the farming / logging operation you started earlier. Pay off the debt, while increasing the size of your farming. If like me, you're in a tourist area, consider renting for some extra cashBy 35 at the latest, you can be independent, and fully living of the land.My current situation (29yo):Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2836513Yeah, and that's a good thing. Feverish attempts to prolong life are the ultimate futility. Might as well embrace your decline and try to live moderately healthy so you don't suffer more than necessary.
>>2836427>nature is constant rolling directionless chaos, stop anthropomorphizing it,Nature can be tamed. It was given to man by God, and all the creatures that crawl, swim or fly are for my to own. The land can be stripped, shaped, molded, and contained into man's desire and whim. It only exists for our pleasure, profit and consumption. Reread Genesis and become closer to The Truth:>Genesis 1:28 (KJV): "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth".
>>2839250Gee I'll just make myself 10 years younger and pick up a pair of rich grandparents at the storeAll my problems are solved thanks anon
>>2836366Youre a faggot. Primal my ass.
I got stung by a bee yesterday while watering flowers at work. I felt really tired on the way home, which I heard was normal, then proceeded to eat dinner (I was sneezing by this point), go to sleep earlier than usual, and then woke up an hour later from my "nap". I sat up and felt super congested, sneezy etc, with what could best be described as an "allergy cough" you'd get from something like hay fever. But I never once felt like I couldn't breathe (save for the congestion) and had no feeling of shortness of breath when not breathing out of my nose. I took some ibuprofen and the sneeziness went away soon after. >tl;dr Should I still see an allergist? I work outdoors and while I've been stung before I don't wanna randomly drop dead from something as preventable as a bee sting.
>>2840344You probably have undiagnosed HIV that is complicating your VERY MINOR wound. Get tested at your local clinic and glove up for sex, assuming you have any. Protip, don't try to pick up girls at the clinic, they are there for the same reason you are.
>>2840349Yeah yeah, I know, you're right! Hell, it might even be rabies for all I know!!!
>>2840351Nope, definitely HIV. t. EMT
>>2840344Sounds about normal. Tough it out and your immune system will be stronger.
>>2840367Oh, I'm not afraid of pain, don't worry. I just wanna know if I had a normal reaction or if I'm in some kind of dangerous cohort. Thanks for the reply. Still likely going to see an allergist for knowledge's sake.
has anyone ever encountered one of these things? and also, how do i avoid getting killed by one?
I had a pack come to my camp and try to drive me away. It was my fault for leaving food out, but still. My yelling and banging pots together was met with them grunting and coming closer.Eventually they left but now I never take it for granted that boars will just run from me.
Saw one walking along the shoulder of the road last night.Unfortunately I was in the car. If I had been in my truck I would have just smashed it with the ranch hand.Little bastard disnt even flinch at traffic. Looked like a young male that recently got booted from a sounder.
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>>2832925Every part of this sounds great
Is /out/ brave enough to pick up a wild snake?
>>2835476Nearly all rattlesnake bites occur when people are fucking with the snake. Rattlesnakes stand their ground, they don't chase you. >>2835480Here at 8000' in Colorado we have little garter snakes. Sometimes they headbutt you when you pick them up, but they're completely harmless. I've never seen any other species of snake at this elevation.
>>2835476I do it all the time, I give venomous ones their space though
>>2840213captive bred snakes make better pets
>>2839407Yep thats the book.Entire series is badass.Every /out/ist should have atleast the Reptile & Amphibian, the Birds and the Trees.Bonus points for Rocks & Minerals, Butterflies, Wildflowers and Insects & Spiders.
>>2835476I have picked up plenty of snakes and I will eventually die. No news here.
