Last thread >>2856593This is a thread for enjoying a pipe while doing outdoor activities. If you ask why this belongs on /out/, you've never spentan evening by the campfire with a pipe silently enjoying the nature around you, and you're missing out.>how to get startedPurchase a corn cob pipe (or a cheap briar pipe) and a pouch of Half and Half or Captain Black tobacco from a smoke shopor online. You will need a lighter or match, and something to tamp it with--a large nail works well if you don't have a pipe tool.Fill the pipe with tobacco, pack it down halfway, top it off, pack it down to 3/4, top it off again, pack gently and enjoy. Smokeslower than you think you need to, the tobacco tastes best when it is burning cool. Tamp and re-light as needed. If you stillhave trouble, try different methods on YouTube until you find one that works for you.>smoking a pipe will give you cancerOriginally the Surgeon General found that pipe and cigar smokers, following a careful study of the statistics (at a time whenmost adults smoked, so they had a good sample size), had insignificant death rate increases. Nowadays, tobacco is beinglegislated against while hard drugs are being legalized. Put two and two together. Tobacco is just another good thing under attack by the government.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2873074>>2873083MM is still an interesting choice, shows you did a bit of homework instead of grabbing a gas station special or burning a hole through grandpa's briar.
>>2873074Will take you up on the recommendations. I am trying to avoid my natural inclination to go full tilt into a new interest and take my time with this. Kind "earn" my modest upgrades.>>2873087Yes it is a MM. I honestly went in to a little local tobacco store (rural Appalachian foothills) and just held/looked at what they had. I also picked up a MM country gentleman because I read that rotation is good. These felt/look good, had different bowl types and stem types, figured that was good for slow gradual learning. I went with SWR because I read William Faulkner smoked it and I like Faulkner, but also Faulkner was good friends with the esteemed, late Shelby Foote. Im trying my level best to have this journey unfold like an old story. Not to worry so much about pedigree (it does matter tho) and to focus on what the experience and stories are. What a great thread. Thank you.
since we talked about lighters last thread i went through another bic and got tired of having plastic junk, and since i'm cheap i didn't want to shell money at a zippo, so i fund for cheap old fuel lighters, an actual ww1 era lighter and a small promotional lighter from the 60s that fit my travel kit
It’s been windy as fuck the last week and a half and I can’t get a call smoke in without burning my pipe red hot. Oh and the wasps flying around me and the max humidity and the 100° weather…. It’s pissing me off. I wish I had a sun room for smoking and a new job and a new life.
>>2873225grab a cob with a tall chamber
Are people really relying on randomly stacked rocks to determine where they are like it's the 1800's
>>2872851Most people on the spectrum enjoy nature and work better with animals. People on the spectrum struggle intensely with social cues and interactions with other people, but the majority of them thrive when interacting with nature. You're confusing autistic with man child.Case and point I'm on the spectrum and subsidize a good portion of my diet with wild foraging and herbalism (Pic related I make an amazing whole plant dandelion tea) but if you held a gun to my head and told me to hold sustained eye contact and a natural conversation with you and I would definitely die. If you're going to hate an entire group of people, hate us accurately.
>>2873116If you're staking your life on a pile of rocks, then maybe don't go on the trail, or learn proper navigation techniques?
If you've done enough hiking, you'll know that in certain areas like really rocky areas it becomes very hard to see the trail. People use rocks to mark the trail in that case. It works. People use logs and rocks and shit to show where the path goes when it meets a point that also looks like it could be the path but isn't.
>>2873207>If you've done enough hiking, you'll know that in certain areas like really rocky areas it becomes very hard to see the trail.Just don't go on dangerous trails if you don't know how to navigate them.
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>>2872692just get in the pride pod and all your suffering will be over.
>>2869449hate people cutting switchbacks like that
>>2870810yeah that sounds prime
jeets be gone
We can argue about which country has the best mountains but deep down in our hearts we all know it's Switzerland and people only say otherwise cause it's expensive as fuck
>>2871519>India
>>2871526>you masquerade as someone wanting change but doing nothing because it would affect your own statuswhich is exactly what happened
>>2871888Its like country is full of guys who never got punched in the face and Karens. Could you even imagine confronting someone over such bullshit (having evidence pictures!) and then even snitch to the landlord
>>2872327>>2872327Just to rectify (cause I'm a frog), we just view the US style politeness as "fake" and "verbose", it's not that we don't like being polite it's just that you guys just pretend too much and this fake kindness and forced small talks are viewed as being rude and cringe in France. Like in France if I am asked if something is good I'll say "yes I like the taste because I like strawberries". In the US it's like "yeah brother it's the best cake I ever had, soooooo good, hey Karen come here taste anon's cake.. it's fantastic. Where did you find those berries ? Oh wow me and my cousin own a berry farm in {random place I'm supposed to know apparently}, you guys should visit us there some day and have a drink" while they have zero intention of ever calling you again and didn't believe a single word they say.
>>2870669Im not well traveled enough to argue, but isnt Pacific Northwest agreed upon as most beautiful place on Earth?
Discuss nudism. Is it something you grew up with, or found later in life? Have you ever considered giving it a try?I wanted to try making a thread on a blue board in the hopes that there could be a serious discussion instead of the degenerate gooning the occasional nudism thread devoles into on /b/.
>>2864595the sun only burns you if you're an idiot
>>2862554>rules against lewd behavior>its totally not sexualized bro>beach sorted by sexual orientationright
>>2859211I went to a nude beach in SoCal a couple few times. I think I’ve heard it’s a gay thing, but it’s also right next to a university so maybe it’s not like a “gay space” but you just get a lot of homos on account of they can walk around with their junk hanging out even if there isn’t a parade going on? Anyway, I wouldn’t know if the college kids even use it ‘cause I’ve only ever been on “””cold””” days. So it’s like 65 and overcast, but it seems to do a pretty good job of clearing the place out. It’s nice to be pretty much alone and be able to just strip and jump in the water. It feels like a lot less of an ordeal when you don’t have to bring special clothes with you. You can just up and decide on a whim to go swimming in the ocean today, you don’t have to make a big plan out of it. I know that’s silly cause how big a deal is it really to put on trunks, but still. Even took a few beers one time so I could hang out for a bit. Only ever seen a few fat old people, but I’m fat and old too, so whatever. Certainly not gonna see the beauty of the human body on display, but that’s not what I went there for.It’s cool. I like being naked, idk. It’s like I don’t have to wear all these clothes to hide who I am. It’s kinda nice to just let it all hang out sometimes, shed some stress. Never been a social thing for me though. I mean maybe it would be cool, but I don’t live close enough to go there all the time and meet anyone and I never had that type of family, so idk, but it doesn’t really bother me on that level. I’m not like morally outraged by it. I will say though, that I’m not just cool with people walking around naked everywhere. I lived in PA I couldn’t even wear shorts without getting bit up. And let’s say you got your nudist utopia and everyone in naked all the time. You want to sit your bare ass on that splintery wood bench? Not to mention like half the population doesn’t know how to wipe.
Spending the heatwave at a naturist camp. It's incredible how much more enjoyable the temperatures here are compared to urban areas.
Nudism is different from naturalism, in that when it's cold you naturally put some clothes on. Naturally men don't want their balls slapping against their legs. Nudity is fine, but nudism, like any -ism, brings out the worst in the best people
>go to nature reserve>place is actually an old farmstead from 20+ years ago>meadow is an old overgrown field>wetland is a pond created when a small stream was dammed>forest has an open canopy and diverse understory because it was regularly thinnedWhen will we get finally over this whole "REEEE LEAVE NO TRACE!!!" shit? None of these habitats would have existed without prior human modification, otherwise the area would be mediocre overgrown woodland that we already have everywhere and supports less species. It's clear that we are able to make positive changes to the local ecosystem so why aren't we doing it more. The idea that nature is hecking perfect and we have to leave it alone is just agencies sounding virtuous while they sit on their asses doing nothing and wasting our tax dollars. That's why I don't really give a shit if their funding is being cut.
>>2870856Good morning saar.
what is it you want to do so bad? Leave beer cans in nature? Chop down trees? How is it helpful if random people start making "positive changes"
>>2872146>>2872155INSANE seethe lmao
INSANE sneed lmao
>>2870856that's not what leave no trace means
are there any other /out/ experiences that can compare with being inside of a hollow wave?
>>2873152well even if you were a coastchad surfer guy you wouldn't be enjoying the ocean every day. it's only really 'good' like 1/10 times you try to surf. it can be regularly fun but not 'good'. and you often have other commitments that mean you can't even be there on the good days and you just have to hear about it from the unemployed trust fund retards who get to surf every day
>>2871884animal encounters
>>2873161The only animal encounter ive had was with a horny bear, it was jacking off outside my tent
>>2871884nice piss tube
>>2873159>tfw you will never be anunemployed trust fund retard who get to surf every daywhy even live?
While this is kinda political I feel you outdoor guys can understand it better.As I'm from Germany and the Energy prices are far through the roof here, I though of solutions. I came up with Biogas and later with Biodiesel and Ethanol together. I thought about making something crowdfunded but realized this needs a National Development Plan and new Laws. It SHOULD have national Energy Strategic status....someone needs to do something.As I interacted with AI about this, it seems that without demishing national food production and allocate only 2% of agricultural land among other things for this, it's quite doable.I read, trump just approved 12 new nuclear reactors for the USA. In my opinion this is stupid. Even the USA could adopt Biogas/Biodiesel and Ethanol.Please inform yourself about this subject and if possible build groups to promote this world wide. This needs to be the future,I myself probably can't go much further. I have late stage cancer and just today found my sperm to be full of blood. Don't listen to those who speak against Biogas, they have no idea what they talk about or are big oil shills or something.
>>2872908>Trying to turn food production into fuel production is fucking retarded.Financially speaking it makes sense when you buy politicians and they give you special tax breaks and government subsidies you get rich.
>>2872912plus, the activist dividends when you spike the global price of corn, causing places that usually grow less water intensive crops to switch to corn, causing water shortages, and then loudly blame those droughts on climate change.
Nothing destroys nature faster than environmentalists getting government grants to save the planet
>>2872906No, they didnt.They created synthetic oils.Not crude oil.Crude oil is a complex collection of everything from asphalt to kerosene to diesel to gasoline.The germans basically refined organic vegetable oils into engine oil due to a shortage of crude.
>>2872885It's been a while since I've seen someone as retarded as you.
I do a lot of it. It makes me feel more connected to nature, I get to work with my hands and literally eat the fruits of my labor, and it's a great way to supplement your diet and rely less on the grocery store.Everyone I know says it's gross to eat things that grow in the woods, and I'm weird for knowing so much about whats growing out here, I kinda get it, it's not a normal hobby, but I really enjoy it, and wish I could find more people out there who do it.Anyone here know about any online communities where I can hang out with other people into foraging?Pic related, it's a bundle of mustard garlic I found today while at work. I'm a happy man.
>>2871384You just check all the boxes for your identification and eventually you'll have enough experience to be more confident (supposedly youre the most likely to die at this point, when you start to think you're good)You should know the stuff that can kill you so you know when there's a risk for confusion
I'm amazed that my thread is still up because I took a pretty long break.I made some amazing red and white clover tea a week ago and it's been carrying me while I wait for the local chicory roots to fatten up before I make unlimited coffee from them.
>>2871384Searching and studying is your best friend. Learn from what other foragers wrote.For example, I learned how to forage queen Anne's lace, a plant that has poison hemlock as a look alike, one of the single most toxic plants in north America, by studying it.You need to make sure that wild carrot has a hairy stem, and that the leafs when crushed and roots in general smell like a carrot and if you're even slightly unsure, throw it out.It's all about studying carefully, making sure you vet all sources you're studying from, and practice good methodical habits on the field.
is this the foraging threadi am blessed to live in a place where there are a lot of edible plants but there is also a lot of hantavirus hereis eating wild things without washing them safe or are the libtards right?
>>2873140You have absolutely no idea what peed on ir died by that plant, or if at any time anything was sprayed in the area. Wild plants also tend to have a lot of debris, and critters on them. So yeah you should be rinsing anything you bring back. Unless you enjoy eating dirt, piss, and bugs. If you enjoy eating dirt piss and bugs then eat away.Some foragers will eat parts of the plant on the spot or after washing it with water on hand. Mustard garlic flowers are actually a very popular field snack, but it depends on the plant and which part of it you're eating.Honestly, you should be rinsing what you buy in the produce aisle too because you don't know what conditions it grew in and if it still has any fertilizer or pesticides on it, and rinsing it is usually just a quick extra step to make sure you're not eating anything you don't want to, but it's a lot less important than washing anything you forage yourself.Pic unrelated. It's what my clover harvest looked like after processing for tea
meteorological, biological, geological, anthropological, hydrological, or whatever else
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>>2871976>>2871977Looks like a pretty dope music visualizer.
Lots going on below your feet.
>>2871199Bumping for the answer to this.
General thread for freediving and/or spearfishing, since I don't see one mentioning either.My personal questions:I've been thinking about taking a certification course so I can learn to do these things correctly and safely. I'm probably happy just doing the diving, but spearfishing seems like an easy and practical extension. I only casually skindive and rod-and-reel fish at the moment. Does anyone have experience taking such a course?I know I'll need my own gear early on, but each instructor I can find seems to have their own equipment shops, so I imagine they wouldn't be impartial about the quality of other gear on the market. I live on the Pacific coast of the US, so I see that a 7 mm open cell wetsuit is strongly recommended. What good/bad features should I look out for on wetsuits and other equipment? For non-competitive diving, carbon fiber fins are almost certainly not worth the price, right?
Where are some good places in the world to get into spearfishing? Without the need for guides or long boat rides. Buddy and I tried it once and discovered we need serious practice.
Anyone got insider info on kraken abductions.>it’s just a natural accident >no we won’t release the footage or explain why expert divers would blatantly ignore safety protocols and go into an unmarked cave system well below dive limits on a single tank.
>>2872654freediving?
>>2872656>the anon behind this post
>>2872654>paralytic toxins>weakened but living divers stashed in a cave>slow consumption over weeksClearly written by somebody who’s never been mauled by a large squid. Everybody knows that real squid attacks are far faster and more violent than that
It's a beautiful sight.I just went to the countryside for a while.
I have another pictures.
Post your preferred hiking shoe and the rest of us can judge how /out/ they are
Got these Zamberlans earlier this year to replace an ancient pair of Vasque Breezes. The vasques were great but after the company was sold to China the quality went to absolute dogshit. The zams are heavy but feel bombproof, and I like that they can be resoled. Still breaking in a bit after 5 hikes but liking them more every time.
Altra Experience Wild that I use both in the city and on the trail. Used them for a couple days while backcountry and held up well. Really good if youve got wide feet.Keen Pyrennes for all others, also wide toe box and the best part is I got them for free
I just wear my work boots, Wolverine Raiders. I've worn through 2 pairs over the last 10 years. Thinking about getting a pair of Danner Pronghorns.
>>2864907Same bro
Did you put in for a permit this year?
>>2868172explain?A guy comes up to your tent at night and asks for permit, then you just dribble your lips?What about the little trail-janny cuck shacks right on the trail, where they are going to check your gear. I always assumed that's what would happen.But you're acting like nobody is there, and there's nobody to check your permit off? Is this the case? I am scummy enough to cheat the system if I will not get consequences.
>>2868193rainier, and mt baker both have large glaciers. I think rainier is one of the most glaciated mountains actually or something.
>>2868789Both of those are in the Cascades.
>>2862612>permitI can do whatever I want
>>2868788>A guy comes up to your tent at nightThis sounds like a good way to get shot. That's probably why nobody does that.
Realistically. How do we get poor people into practicing ski?
>>2865521>It's not a bad ideayea, it's a horrible idea
>>2863310>How do we get poor people into practicing ski?you don'tonly if you have a lot of flexibility (aka uni students) you can get some dealse.g. some shitty <50km ski area in France or Austria with some hotel deal for like <100€/day for skipass + hotelthen you're still missing skis+boots+clothing thoughwent Skiing with my kids for the first time this winter for 2 weeks>600€ cost of getting there (car)>2x500€ for second hand ski+boots+snow pants+snow jacket for kids + 2x150€ for new helmets / back protector>~2x400€ wife + my equipment fractional for this season>ski pass for 12 days 2x550€ adult 2x250€ kids for a big Austrian ski region>4000€ for hotel>1000€ for eating out for lunchComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2870937correct, people go skiing to get away from browns and poors.poors and browns universally destroy everything they touch. they should not be encouraged to venture out into better areas, if anything they should be ruthlessly contained.
>>2863310Why you want poor to go skiing?Why you want crowded slopes?More people, more trash, more problems,.more longer que at the lifts and so on.The poor must serve the rich and work while the rich enjoy skiing.
>>2872773Because getting people to care about land is the only way to preserve it. They won't care about it if they never go /out/.
