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/qtddtot/ - Questions that don’t deserve their own thread
>>2793358 (I think)
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Tell me about Pennsylvania. I might actually make this into a thread
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>>2853417
I think I figured it out myself. They ARE meant for the laces. They let you arrest them after tieing the lower part of the boot, so you can tie the upper part looser or more tightly.
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>>2839439
Update on this >>2839197
So I called the 'hammock tent' and hauled it along as a backup on my last trip. It took alot of space but that's not a problem.
I slept in it for one night, had to try it out of course. Comfy, like everything.
But I must say I find it weird. You're right, the hammock part is coated. I had no condensation issues but I just fewl the idea is odd. I do see how theoretically, ot could help keeping underquilts bone dry.
I didn't like the whole thing, for starters I can't quite put a finger on it but I think they tailor some kind of shape into those 'hammock tents' so that normies can not fuck it up. Doesn't feel like a hammock tho.
No ridgeline. There's those two hoops with mosquito net. So not only do you lack a ridgeline, you also can not reach for the suspension. So where to hang my shit?
Lastly you're not going to bring all of your stuff inside anyways so you will need to pitch a tarp anyways to keep everything dry.
Did not try pegging it to the ground.
>picrel is feom mfg.
Would not recommend. I'll stick with my hammock and polytarp.
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>>2852859
Worth it 100%. If you're not sure, grab a pair of REI branded ones for cheaper than a big name (OR, Kuhl, Patagucci).
I like features like zipper closures on the pockets (can't lose anything while scrambling), thigh vents, and minimal pockets (usually just front and back pockets, nothing lower down on the leg. You can wear a nice set of softshell pants year round, softshell and long johns is my go-to for winter hiking and I'll use the same pants in the summer. Like anon said, light colors are best both for spotting ticks and minimizing overheating in the summer. If you already have pants that fit the criteria of fast drying, breathable synthetics that aren't restrictive you can stick with those though no problem. I always tell people that I'm bringing hiking to pull their knee up to their chest and if the pants are restricting their movement they aren't any good.
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I just ordered a set of mesh baselayers.

Does it matter what type or material of mid layer I use over them? Since the mesh itself is already providing air pockets for insulation so I'm assuming its less important what layer I wear over them.

I HATE my job, I HATE normies. How tf can I just drop out of society and get neetbux. I have a small farm and a bitch to leach off of but I have no idea how to welfare meme. Do I just tell the doctor im autistic and get disability?!?!?!? I make to much for food stamps and I just don't pay my medical bills for any ER visit ext... I have a kid on the way so im scared to drop out without knowing what to do.... BTW I don't give a fuck what anyone around me thinks.... help... living out my RV BTW the pic is from my homestead back in January
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>>2854073
I sure don't. But I also do not depend on them, ask something from them or even rob them, let alone by proxy, which is just as bad but cowardice on top of that.
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>>2843991
Honestly I would rather my tax dollars go to an /out/ neet than social security for boomers who already hold like 90% of the wealth
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>>2854406
I'd rather not have my money go to any leech.
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>>2854420
Its either gonna go to ME or Globohomo

Choose wisely
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Obviously you need to learn what plants are edible. You need to build a permanent structure that will not be found. Earth bags are very good for this as you can carry them in bulk and then fill them once you find a nice deep hidden spot with small-medium sized river nearby. Do not set up too closely to water or you will be found. You want to be at minumum 2km (2 mile) away from any tracks and at least 200m (250yard) away from the water. It is easier than you think with the earth bag construction. You will want a gillnet, illegal to use in most places but it means you have a passive source of fish. You will want a fishing rod too I advise telescopic, decent reel, with spinners, wiglers and so on. Fish that are too big for the gillnet will be stuck in the area in front of it and you catch those yourself. You will want to get some conibear traps, 110, 160, 220, and set up a trap line, these are serious pieces of gear that are designed to kill on impact if you fuck it up and it snaps it breaks whatever part of your body is in there. Of course you need to study your local animals, what actually is there, what fish are in that water source. You are also going to want a small solar set up primary for charging battery banks that then charge your lights, phone and so on. Fill your phone with guides on your area.

A short-list for if you are serious
>learn the edible plants, some tree seeds are edible and high protein and high yield
>learn your animals, what ground animals, what fish
>find your location, do some reading on natural lines of drift
>learn the climate, if it gets very cold do not build in a depression where cold air will sit
>get bags, conibears, gillnet, fishing kit
>learn how to process animals, worst case download videos onto your phone
>solar can be a hiking solar set up to begin with, as you grow you may want a pure dc 200w panel

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can anyone recommend a good pair of hiking boots? price doesn't really matter, i'm just trying to get a decent pair of boots that won't bust a hole straight through the bottom like my last pair (my walking posture is fine)
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>>2848413
>>2848489
I did a flooded marsh crossing in waterproof boots. I immediately regretted it once i stepped in and sank to my kneecaps. It was about 1/3 mile across, never again. My boots took several days to dry out, my feet were so bad. I had to hike back 4 mi as well just to get back to the trailhead after it.
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>>2844384
those soles look like they'd wear down pretty quickly. You said 3 years? do you just not go out?
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>>2851655
>Sports mode: Engaged
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>>2851625
have you tried not taking the worst possible path intentionally.

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>>2850580
nice wrist action fancy boy
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>>2853558
just whack the heel on the table, its literally what its designed for, also, of course it isn't a maritime knife, someone with an above room temp IQ would know that
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>>2850966
>neither get watersoaked and need "a whack" to use
checks out
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Just got myself a new one, top is one I got 3 years ago.
Since then it's become my EDC knife, it's great for my uses. Sure if I need pliers I'll take the leatherman, and if I know I'll need to cut thicker wood or want easier cleaning when gutting larger fish I'll take the mora, but the opinel is just right to fit into basically any pocket without being uncomfortable, does most jobs I need it to, and is overall a joy to use.
Got a friend the olive wood handle version, saw how nice it looked, and now I got myself one too.
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>>2853524
>picnic tier
I was with you until there, but that's just wrong.
They are cheap and good enough for 95% of uses the normal person needs a knife for.
I use mine primarily as edc. I don't have to baton with my knife or do self defense on a regular basis (not bri'ish), I need it to cut fishing line when fishing, kill the occasional catch, open packages, prepare food etc.
None of those requires a full tang knife, or a super easy to clean knife.
Sure I pay attention when killing larger fish to not get too much guts and blood on the handle and mechanism because cleaning it is a bit of a pain and not good for the wood, but that's easy to do. I just oil it once a year and that's it.
It's not zero maintenance, but it's not like they can't last or are hard to take care of either.

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Anyone here with experience in the Chugach or Talkeetna? I'm steadily building experience and starting to get into very sketchy stuff. Pic related required constant switching between crampons and skis due to snow conditions. Did Bashful alone in August and that was wild. How bad of an idea is it to get on the larger glaciers alone? Very, I imagine ?

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For no reason in particular other than my own interest, I need to know what the perfect "survival card(s)" would be.

What tools would you be very fucked to be without, &/or would want an excess of during a survival situation?
They have to be the to be the length, width, and general thickness of a standard credit card though; needs to fit in a wallet.

A magnifying lens card is of course a given (same with a tick remover), but what would be useful on a laser-cut metal card?
Would a saw be useful? I see other sets with snares, but I don't feel like a fishing kit would be too useful.
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>>2854458
I have a couple of those too but I cut myself once when sliding it out of my wallet on the can opener corner and switched to the plain bottle opener since that's the only part I ever used.
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>>2854333
If you are good at fishing and want a cool pocket took these can be fun. If you have a very basic idea of fishing than these are mostly useless. I mean they aren't bad buy the Altoids can survival cans have been worked on for decades and they arnt mostly fishing gear. I mean fuck I have no clue how to properly use most this shit....
Properly being the key word.
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>>2854461
>Properly being the key word.
yeah, that seems to be the big issue with a lot of the items; and even if you knew, theres the issue of efficacity

most of the little bits & bobs are very flimsy, and would be outclassed by a carved stick; if they were thicker & made of a stronger steel, they'd be much more useful, but they're not
if you had all the time in the world, a use can be found with most of the things of course; if you're counting the minutes to a meal, spending you moments fiddling with sheet metal is just gonna get you killed

on account of that, i feel like snares would be a useful tool, since they're basically instant food; fishing implements don't seem worth it when you can just make a basic fish trap
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>>2854461
Not to mention some of these need a slight added bind in them to make them more work properly.
Fun for a fishermen if cheap tackle wasn't already more affordable these little sheets. I already fish out of an old dip can and if I am cutting my bait than that is enough to catch anything.
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>>2854463
The idea is making little tools into big tools. Even if I can perfectly use my fishing tackle I need to makeshift a rod, attach the like properly. That is just up to the point of hooking the fish after that you still need a lot more tools. If you don't believe me look at how picky people are about filet knives.

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What is the thinnest /out/ glove technology available today?
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>>2846972
Something like this
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>>2846972
https://ozerogloves.com/product/ozero-9002/
Found these on a bike trail. They are my idea shittly done: wetsuit material (neoprene) but too thin. And like some are saying, sweat is a problem. I put some mickey mouse cotton gloves as liners, but somehow colder than cotton alone. Gonna end up making mittens put of ace back support brace....like mfers are playing piano in winter weather......WHERE THE FUCK ARE ALL THE MITTENS?
https://ozerogloves.com/product/ozero-9002/
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I did some research, and apparently those weird fucks up north use a mesh base layer. Maybe that plus latex over it solves the problem? The mesh should wick the moisture away, while the holes provide air isolation. The latex traps the air. All still very thin. Just needs some ultra-thin layer over this so it doesn't look like I work at Subways.
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>>2854218
Thats outdoor guy who's wife just got sick, that was the subject of his last vid. Someone finally had my idea. It doesn't wick shit. Its all about boundary layer. And windproof layer off the skin just traps air. Mesh allows that. Those polyester vapor protocol gauze coveralls they use in hospitals will boil your alive, but the are virtually nothing. Its also a other layer on scrubs. So just another layer, any layer, has air sticking to it as a fluid. All insulation is about trapping air (or a vacuum).
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>>2854218
>Son, I've seen the clothes you buy for your "hikes in the woods"
>Is there something you want to tell us?

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In honor of Halloween, and we haven't talked about this guy in like a year, I'd like to get everyone to remember the tragic tale of James Kim, who got cuck-killed by his nagging white wife.

Guy, his wife, and their daughters, age 4 and 7 mo finished Thanksgiving with family in Seattle, and decided to stay at a resort on the Oregon coast on the way back to San Francisco. He was television personality and audio reviewer for CNET. This was in late 2006, so before smartphones. They missed the turn to the main highway connecting interstate 5 with the Oregon coast, pulled into a gas station to ask directions, and fucked it up from there. The wife was nagging him to get home and it got dark and they ended up on logging roads that theoretically DO connect I-5 and the Oregon coast, but it was snowing heavily and they turned around, got lost, and gave up. He went to seek help and died frozen, and the wife and two daughter survived.

The price a man pays for a hypergamous marriage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Kim
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>>2848220
>foid
Found the KHHV
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>>2848526
>IQ tests are intended to diagnose retardation
They were invented to """prove""" what blacks where inferior to whites.
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>>2852462
false
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>>2847491
I've taken this road a few times, it's genuinely just gnarly.
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>>2854455
does it actually connect the central valley and the coast like they wanted it to do, I mean if somehow they got through all the snow, could they have made it?

I'm in a psych unit but when I get out I'll be staying with grandparents in a property in the woods. It has a river, dams, losts of trees. I want to do some "prepping" and learn outdoors skills, perhaps have a bug out bag and set up some outdoors shelter and fireplace. Any cool tips or advice?
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>>2853265
Society can be stressful and overwhelming
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>>2852919
get a cheap 900ml pot and a brs-3000 knockoff from aliexpress or similar (or fashion yourself a diy alcohol stove). Go on walks in the woods and stop for a tea / coffee. Having 'go to place X and have a tea there' is much better as an activity than just walking there and back. Use this to map out the woods slowly. The human brain likes having a goal/reward and this is an easy one. You can get set up for like $20. I like the chinese titanium camp pots that are available now. they get very cheap on sale and are very light for carrying in a small backpack.
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Consider this, the Donner party ventured into the Sierra Nevada mountains with no knowledge of the land, with not enough food to last but a month or two. Got snowbound and starved, eating the saddles from their horses and some ultimately eating their own dead. But all the while they were surrounded by Miwok Indians who were not preppers, but people who deeply understood the land and all its inhabitants in that area. They didn’t “survive” there, they simply there with the resources the land provided.
Well, in one sense they were preppers in that they did, like the squirrels and other animals they prepared for the long cold months by caching food during the warmer months. They had a good store of dried fish, acorn, pinyon nut, and other foods. Like people who rely on wood heat today, they had a store of firewood and they stayed toasty warm in their small conical houses, in many cases insulated with thick tule mats and warmed by a small fire, all the while wrapped in their thick rabbit skin blankets. Consider also the story of Ishi, the last known wild Indian who stumbled out of the woods half starved because just before winter set in, a group of white trappers came upon their hidden homes, took all their food, and even took the rabbit skin blankets!
I see prepping as knowing how to return to the old ways. Yes you should have some things stocked, but more importantly you should have the knowledge and the tools to live off the land in the area of the world you find yourself in. I myself live in the southern Sierra Nevada. I know the cycle of life that people once followed here; I know what was harvested when. and I count among my friends people whose ancestors lived here for ten thousand years before the Europeans came.
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>>2853322
To cut this anons blatherings down, befriend some injuns so you can mooch off them when SHTF
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Don't forget to bring a towel and a change of underwear and extra socks.

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I want to quit society and live out in nature.
Where can I do this, and how should I prepare?
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>>2852557
Agafia Lykova did it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfQDGxpQY2U

>>2838506
You can't anywhere in the US unless you own the land and pay taxes on it. There's plenty of cheap property in the South, maybe in Alaska. They may also require road access.
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>>2839091
Being within a half mile of a highway is like breathing in poison
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>>2853502
Do you speak from experience?
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>>2838506
/out/ poster with an anthropology degree here.
you can't, division of labor and complex economic interactions means you cant live out in the woods by yourself without going full stone aged.
no man can do more than a few things alone, really the moden world is hell. only the Amish have any chance at freedom and I say they they are only 10% independent on the most extreme end.
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>>2854442
Yes I breath in poison as a hobby

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Just ordered the North Face Stormbreak 2. What tent are you rocking? What do you love and hate about it? What tent do you want?
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>>2827319
There is only one tent that beats everything and it is perfect.
But because of that, they no longer produce it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY-_xcvIzuw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj6cRfRi0zs
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I've been using a Kelty tn4 since November 2016, and I have been extremely happy with it. It is heavy, but I use it to camp with my wife and 2 daughters and I like the extra room it offers.
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>>2827319
Stock image, but mine is similar.
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This is a good tread it shouldn't die.
>>2848121
What makes a LARP tarp? Any tarp? If so what is wromg with tarps. Years ago I bought my polytarp in a hardware store. It's got holes now but I patched them. It's still going strong.
I just had to pitch it an hour ago. I never pitch it when setting up but when a drizzle starts it's up so fast.
The holes are from transporting it btw, not from using it.
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Snugpak ionosphere > your tent
If it snows in reinforce the main bar with a stick.

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thoughts on /out/ Youtubers going camping and labelling themselves as "homeless nomads" for money?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=babmqkggnhg
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I watched the Will survives guy for a while, he seemed cool but he also seemed like a meth head who will end up murdering someone in a fit of rage one day
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>>2854376
Couldn't care less what random nobodies do on youtubue.
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>your thoughts on loaded question about some specific person that has annoyed OP off
This doesn't deserve its own thread.

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I fucking hate them to my core.
They often buy up land, then totally ban access to the public, even in places where public access was previously legal, with zero explanation about why, while bragging and showing off videos of the beautiful overlooks they would love to arrest you for trespassing to get to on their website.

If they DO allow access, there's never any signage, adequate parking, let alone improved trails. They truly do not give a fuck and I imagine them as hateful boomers who pat themselves on the back "oh the land is protected now!" as they ban access. It might as well be private land. It has all been logged already.
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>>2854295
The fact you don't know just proves why you don't deserve a trail. Go out and donate some time to a trail building society and realize how the system actually works.
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>>2854295
>which lady?
the lady who answered the phone at the State park. The structure is unsafe she said.
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>>2854370
anon the area is closed to the public, trail building isn't the issue
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>>2854427
I guess at some point they are just gonna have robot police and drones roaming around and trespassing will be truly enforced. Shame people are so unwilling to share and instead revel in "owning" land which really just means getting to bully and be violent with others who go there.

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What's some of your favorite /out/ approved kinos?
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Picking a random kino from this thread to watch this weekend on my phone inside my tent
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Akira Kurosawa's Dersu Uzala is a very beautiful, very poetic movie
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>>2850465
Those Who Wish Me Dead
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>>2852048
>>2854378
This.
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Id say pic related and dersu uzala are what you are looking for.

What's the best backpacking location in Europe?
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>>2853091
cause the AT is backpacking everything is is downhill of that idea. its the hippie experience every normie wants, if anyone of those people went on a real wilderness trip they'd go insane just from having to be alone.
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>>2853071
ah another finland thread very nice
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>>2853188
what if you're already too lonely in your daily life and need to take every chance at socializing in order not to go insane ?
(asking for a friend)
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>>2853190
That's the AT. What do you think the shelters are for?
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>>2853071
either france or norway, depend what you look for


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