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Where to look to find them ? Any stories about forging for them using them photo's ?
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if you buy datura seeds online, be aware that they are 10000% less potent than fresh seeds, and the potency gets even weaker over time. just found a packet of 100 seeds and ate them all a few days ago, but they were a year and a half or two years old so they did jack shit except make my movement feel a liiiiitle bit off
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You don't need to go looking for datura, just get some diphenhydramine from Walmart
Same shit
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>>2776987
>you dont need to go /out/, just go to your backyard and set up a tent
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>>2775961
Is that what Jesus told you to do?
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>>2775067
do not do datura, it will fuck you up badly, possibly forever.
this is the worst thread on /out/ right now.

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Is it Fall yet where you are?
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>>2776869
luckily no because only thing i hate more than mowing my lawn is raking leaves off it
sorry to be a bummer but i never really got that fall season hiking boom, sure its beautiful and most likely has its roots in many people having their vacations or something
to me it just means endless raking and sneaky mushrooms that get covered in leaves innawoods, also fishing season is over and 3 months till ice fishing starts
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>>2776872
fippy bippy

When I was younger I distinctly remember September being a consistent 60ish in the upper midwest. It's been mid to high 80's here for the past three weeks, and the last six or seven years were no different
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>>2776869
Yes, the aspens on the mountains are almost entirely changed and the valley cottonwoods are beginning to turn yellow as well.
>t. 8000' in the Colorado Rockies
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>>2776869
no, the endless rain has not started yet.
>t. SW Oregon
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>>2776994
but you like the rain

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Hull speed edition
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when i was a wee lad my scout group had some toppers and kayaks we went out in a few times a year, im getting the urge for dinghying

>>2751548
based
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I've never sailed. If I ever need to flee my shithole due to societal collapse, how should I orient the sail? Is "always perpendicular to the wind" a good rule of thumb? Also what kind of emergency fishing technique could work?
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>>2774874
here you go
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its been 4 years of being in sailing in a big ish lake and I'm seriously starting to think of getting out.

I have this recurring auto immune issue that fucks me out of entire seasons and I dread having to do the manual labour in this state

also the fucks at the sail club are a bunch of snobs

also im in my early 30s and I'm not saving fast enough.

Idk. I love sailing. it calms me down, its been so good for my mental health. but these factors are making it a lot of stress
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>>2776918
switch to a dinghy or quit racing

talk about ruckz and packz
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>>2774904
I'll do that. That's pretty much how I've been getting all my gear. Thankfully there seems to always be a sale on something you need if you look or wait a couple days for it.
>>2774901
Would it be as dangerous just going to local, close by, and smaller woods to try camping out during the winter? Not even backpacking, just general camping out?
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anyone tried the granite gear chief patrol pack and/or the mystery ranch blackjack 100 or 6500?
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>>2775028
If you stay within bail-out distance from your car (however far you think you can do in the freezing rain in the middle of the night), and have cell-service/sos beacon there's minimal risk.
Having to bail sucks mentally, you're going to feel like a retard, but it's all experience.

As annoying as it can be, car camping with the gear you plan to hike with is a great way to learn everything in a zero-stress environment and shake your gear out and figure out what works for you and what doesn't.
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>>2775043
Gotcha, I can do that, I guess I use the word "backpacking" fairly liberally, though that's eventually what I'd like to work up to. For now it's just camping with a little distance, but in the winter that distance will be maybe a mile or two from my car (if that doesn't sound too ambitious).
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Hill people Gear bags with their belts set up correctly is by far the most comfortable way to carry and hike with. It's insane people don't use their system more; it is life changing. MAYBE some of the fancy mess suspension for lighter day bags breathe better, but even then it's a maybe.

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What do you call this in your country?
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>>2770996
Tournesol
>>2771072
goated
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>>2770996
Jim.
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>>2770996
solvendel
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no girasole yet?

girasole, also su zirassole
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>>2770996
მზესუმზირა mzesumzira

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Suppose you're going to go vagabonding around the world as far and wide as possible entirely by foot.
What gear would you bring (pack, sleeping bag/tent/bivvy/whatever you want, clothes, shoes, food, water and/or maybe even self defense)?
What would you do for money (one-day jobs, errand running, farm work)?
How would you deal with each season (Winter: Cold, Spring: Rain, Summer: Heat, Autumn: Mix of all three)?
How would you prepare physically (rucking, (ultra)marathons, lifting or maybe even martial arts for self defense)?
What would you prepare administratively (passports, visas, permits etc.)?
Suppose you started from where you live, where you would you wanna go?
Suppose you'd do all of this but on a bicycle instead, explain what would differ and concur more. (Like this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meOYaYv9DsY&t=89s&pp=ygUPaSBjeWNsZWQgYWNyb3Nz)

This thread is not for the following:
>hurr are you mentally insane bro just hike on weekends like a normal person bro
or any of these sorts of responses. It's just a thought experiment.

Picrel: Heavenly Delusion
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>>2774667
what kind of pills? why would the police take them if it's medicine you need to live?
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>>2774693
Because the police are insane psychopaths when dealing with the homeless. You think they give a shit?
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>>2774694
so what would your plan be? get like 100 days worth of pills? and take them with you unill you can find another doctor to replenish?
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>>2774697
I don't need a doctor to prescribe me. It just makes it more convenient. I can order my medication from overseas. But in the case of a disaster I can't wait 2 weeks for shipping
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>>2774703
mate if you lose yours meds in some foreign shithole you are fucked anyway.
in most places in europe, certainly the uk, you will have them within a day or two.

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Knotlet here.
Which knots do you recommend to learn and practice?
What are some not so obvious applications you use them for?
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>>2774019
There you go, this is the most extensive list i've found.
https://www.morethanknots.com/bowline/bowline_list.html
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>>2774020
>>2774025
>reee the bowline knots aren't "bow lines" because uhhhh boats
Did parents drop you on your head or were you born brain damaged?
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>>2770510
>if you know the method that allows you to tie the loop around something before tightening it
Great list explanation anon, just further to your point above, you can tie the bowline left and right handed this way if you're in a tight spot and need to do it one handed. Genuinely couldn't imagine tying it any other way once you learn how.

>>2771885
>find a copy of Ashley's book of knots
all time goat book. My copy was handed from my grandfather to father to me.


Be careful in your knot autism though anons - tugfags will chew your ear off given half a chance about their spastic knot autism, and it can also lead to a crippling interest in shibari and finding a rope bunny to wife.
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Bowline
Alpine butterfly
Prusik
Truckers hitch

That will do most things.
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>>2771552
suck a phat juicy cock gayboy

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What went wrong
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stayed two weeks more than he should have
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>>2776950
Bear
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The recording didn't get leaked

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Tell me where to go if I’m wrong here but I want to go into a WW2 Bunker in south-west Germany, I would greatly appreciate a fellow German Anon telling me some spots
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>>2776293
You'll probably have better chances along the french atlantic coast. Here in Germany, most bunkers were converted to other uses (wine cellars, mushroom plantations, extra basements), filled in or modernised for the cold war.
This is the only bunker I'm aware of that's open to the public:
https://www.otterbachabschnitt.de/
Haven't been there myself though, since it's a museum. I'm more into the "I know a guy, who knows a guy, who's grandfather stole a key back in 1945" type of bunker.
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>>2776309
Thanks! Is there maybe a way to get to know a guy who knows a guy who’s grandfather stole the key in 1945?
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>>2776293
I don't know in germany, but in Romania, i know two at the border with Ukraine. Was used at the retreet from russia, or at least that is what i know, those can be from ww1 too. From it, you could see nato mobile camp installed with some strange towers and antenas on top, maybe for intercepting russians.

Do you ever explore the wilderness off-trail? I love ditching the trails to find secret waterfalls and caves and stuff.
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>>2773916
What’s the point?
If it’s worth seeing or doing, there is probably already a trail to it
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>>2776613
>but i think breaks is setup more in a way to get a bigger overall view of the entire canyon than red river gorge's trails
not really because breaks is JUST where russell fork river breaks up pine mountain

I feel like the gorge part of red river gorge is actually bigger and wider, but it has been a while since I have visited
this is breaks in the pic, and a you can see its pretty similar looking
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>>2776859
Don't get me wrong, I liked Red River Gorge, I just think the views in Breaks were more apparent and easier to get to.

Pic related was from Red River Gorge at the top of one of the parts that did give a really nice overview.
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>>2776916
>I just think the views in Breaks were more apparent and easier to get to.
The best view is the hardest to get to - the chimneys looking at the towers - it's 7.5 mi/1700 ft elevation gain and you have to park in this weird area that has an AWFUL dirt road to access it

they have been funded and supposed to build a footpath across the river, but that hasn't happened yet
it's too bad they don't build it out more and add a bridge and steps up to the chimneys, but I think the issue there is CSX railroad owns parts of it and doesn't want that

I haven't tried hiking that view (chimneys looking at towers) yet, but I want to sometime.

I assume your red river gorge is this one maybe:
https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/kentucky/pinch-em-tight-to-hansons-point

I wanted to do that, but its kinda long and it was 100 degrees when I was there so I did the easy overlook that's pseudo-paved and 1 mi rt

overlooks blocked by trees like that are the blurst, and I assume you can't get to the edge of that rock easily
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>>2776916
Halfmoon Arch?

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"Pretty Perfect Peppers" edition
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>>2776748
Based
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I figured out how much garlic I'll be able to plant in my new bed so I set aside enough bulbs. I'll be able to plant 60 which is nearly triple that of my old bed. With that much I'll probably start giving garlic away to people I know. But the more garlic I have the more I seem to use.

This fall will be my 4th year planting garlic since I was given a single bulb to start. I think I harvested 11 the first 2 years, 22 this year with 1 dud. It has to be one of the lowest effort crops to grow.
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>>2776935
Hope you're planting that nice soft white garlic if you're doing it yourself, I love it
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>>2776719
Nope, no clue. But it was probably done over 20 years ago, considering some 20 something delivered something to my place once and talked about how it was where he grew up. So maybe the tons of squash and tomatoes I've grown in ground aren't going to kill me since I already ate them all.
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>>2776599
I know, it barely finished fermentation at this point, I usually wait 2~3 weeks after it's done before I siphon it out.

Is there anywhere left where you can just sit your ass down and say: "I am going to build a house here and nobody can stop me"?

I would like to build a cabin (like this guy https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YyeHcBrp0Ws) I do not want to own the land, and I want to stay only a season or two.

Gold claims in alaska/canada seem like the most viable option, but I'm sure somebody knows more about this than I do. Input much appreciated :]
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>>2775431
That's scummy (and unrealistic). I'm not going to intrude on another's property.

Would I build something in a far off corner of some public land? Maybe, but not on some individuals property.
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>>2775424
Try building a shed or something first to practice. It was a lot harder than I thought and I learned a lot of things for if I build a real structure next.. also kind of expensive
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>>2775424
I think in Canada the only way this would work is if you managed to lease Crown land. But the gov in Canada ofcourse doesn't want people just living out there, you have to have a reason, usually commercial. I think the easiest way would be to open a maple syrup operation and then you can maybe get a 99 year lease to build whatever you want on the land. Ofcourse canada has a byzantine bureaucracy and almost everything is illegal and selectively enforced on a whim. so idk.
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>>2775435
Based
You can do a lot with just a chainsaw and a chainsaw mill
Try not to burn the forest down or injure animals (ie if you hunt then dont fuck it up)
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>>2775426
Then don't go shit up the woods with your cabin. If everyone did this they'd chop down the woods and turn it into the eternal shantytown that they're trying to escape from

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Just read Walden, pick through the Permaculture Design Manual and am in the middle of White Fang. Any outdoors books you would recommend?
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>>2776816
nothing. anon can't read
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>>2757337
I read Roald Amundsen's account of the Northwest passage, his South Pole expedition, and flight over the North Pole not long ago. Great reads.
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>>2776820
cool! i'm reading cherry-garrard's The Worst Journey in the World at the moment
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>>2757337
thoreau was a trust fund faggot
>>2765964
wanted to post this. does he have any similar books?
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>>2776816
>>2776818
Added in 2020, roastie mumblings and trigger warnings to make the book more palatable for cityfags who've never hunted or fished. Save time and just dive straight into leopold's writing.

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What exactly happens in Iowa?
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>>2774980
>Iowa is like the southern extreme of Canada.
I'm taking that as a compliment
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>>2762457
That's how it is across Appalachia. The terrain is suited towards small farms owned by families rather than huge warehouse-style factory farms owned by faceless corporations that traffick and exploit migrants at illegal wages while polluting the land and waters.
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>>2775837
>faceless
The exploitation of land, water, and flesh are their faces
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>>2775983
>exploitation of land, water, and flesh are their faces
Explore
Expand
Exploit
EXTERMINATE
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I would like to read some long form content from a Slipknot member on Iowa, the sort of thing you'd find in the Atlantic or a similar publication, or maybe a couple hour interview.

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How can you eliminate rats efficiently?
My barn and yard is full of them. To make the matters worse, the more I eliminate them, the more tend to come. The issue is that my neighboring houses are both abandoned, making them a rodent paradise since the last time anyone came there was 6 years ago.
Poisons from store don't seem to work. They ignore traps.
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>>2770795
>>2772557
>>2772690
>>2773338
you faggots are so retarded it's not even funny
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>>2770782
Put the poison in a bowl higher up than dpgs can reach and tape it down so the rats don't knock it down.
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>>2770782
napalm the barn and yard
ez fix
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>>2776858
Dang, you totally got ‘em! Good job!
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>>2770783
No you, unironically.


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