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I'm going to the Konigsee near Berchtesgarten tomorrow for some snowy winter hiking along the lake
Anyone hike this area before?
Any wintertime hiking advice would be apreciated
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>>2850246
>wintertime hiking advice
Don't wear too much, or you will be sweaty, then cold later.
Don't skimp on water just because it's cold. Bring enough food.
Bring a change of socks. Feet get sweaty easily.
Consider gaiters if you walk through snow, they protect against both snow and cold. Bit late for that though if you go tomorrow.
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Viel Vergnügen du Doldi!

Hoffentlich frieren dir dei Gaggerla ab in Bayern, pfui Teufel i bruns auf dich und des Gschwaddl
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>>2850247
We don't do that in germany. You're indian I take it?
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>>2850246
>Berchtesgarten

While you are there go ahead and check out Kehlsteinhaus
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>>2850246
bring some landjager sausage along to eat and make sure to wear your leiderhosen

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>>2850118
Good luck with your blackberry eradication, anon
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>>2850232
Cheers anons.

Operation Bramblerossa/TDB began today. Rite ball ache. Managed to level half of the clump under the silver birch trees. Was hoping to snip them at the base and pull them out but they were woven into one another with a bunch of rogue currant & raspberry canes in the mix too. Decided to adopt the method of gradual snipping/lopping from the tips into pieces a couple of inches in size and letting them fall. No clue what i'll do with the waste, just leave them where they land and jump on anything new sprouting up. Will probably repurpose the patches of brambles in another year.

On the bright side, it really opens up the plot not having a wall of brambles there.
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>>2850266
>No clue what i'll do with the waste,
burn it!
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>>2850267
We're gonna need a bigger bonfire.
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>>2840136
I'm overwintering this pepper plant I have a couple leaves sprouting out from it now but some of them are a little deformed and have little black splatches any idea what this is

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I’m looking at doing some camping in northern NM this winter and don’t have the chedda for a 0degree bag. Is the darky bag worth? I have got the three season but never got issued the black bag only ever heard stories

What is the /out/ consensus on this debate?
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Is there such a thing as a good pair of shoes that work well for both everyday use and hiking?
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>>2850148
Hoka trail runners
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>>2850162
I've got the challengers and I think hoka sucks
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>>2850169
Cry more walmart
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>>2831651
For just fucking around /out/ with no pack or a light pack, in dry-ish conditions, trail runners.
Carrying heavy and/or off-trail with uneven ground over long days, boots.
If it's just wet and cold, either boots or gaiters.

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Looking to refine survival skills in general for when I want/need to head innawoods. Any must have rw adventure books and manuals I should get?
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I was going to make a thread like this, like what would you want to have on a USB stick if you were going to fuck off from society for good or the shit actually hit the fan. In addition to books I think very concise infographics and instructions would be a huge help.
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>>2850353
>a USB stick
>fuck off from society for good
how about you start by spending less time doomcooming on the internet and do something moderately exertive out in the sunlight.
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>>2850342
You're better off actually practicing the skills you think you might need. The idea that when shtf you're going to be able to read a book and suddenly put into practice a whole bunch of hands-on skills is fucking retarded.

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Cave diggers will never get a girlfr.... wat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qEfSmWfwm0
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>>2849213
The true autist /out/ deserves is this caveman
https://www.youtube.com/@Paleas
Hope he's still alive
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>>2850080
that link doesnt work
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>>2850072
when picrel happened, only creatures able to get close to the stuck 6 feet guy were 5 feet manlets and women
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>>2850220
were they able to get in there with him?
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>>2850249
only 1-2 guys at a time were able to get nearby him, only 1 person right next to him at a time. some rescuers were able to partially squeeze right next to him into the crack to tie rope to his legs or later around his waist (though they report it was very difficult to do so).
>About 5 hours later Spencer called me up and asked me to respond, saying that people were getting tired and they really needed small cavers.
>After stabilizing myself by jamming my body into a narrower section of the crack I began speaking to John...
>I went first to check, just in case the paramedic couldn’t fit. I first tried the stethoscope and was only able to get it about 3 inches up and to the right of his naval. I didn’t hear a distinct heart beat, only some ruffling, fluttering sounds that were probably a result of me shaking as I tried to steady myself in an awkward location. I then jammed my hand between the rock and pressed as far up his torso I could go to feel for breathing.
https://www.brandonkowallis.com/2024/02/the-nutty-putty-cave-rescue-the-death-of-john-jones-one-rescuers-perspective/
you can check his report, there are also some cool diagrams and photos

what strange / spooky stuff have you seen?

once when i was in the desert, there was a telephone pole, on it looked exactly like a 10ft tall bird of prey, just eyeing me down
it was about a good 5min of walking, which felt like forever, just to see that it was a transformer that looked weird, none of the other poles had it either
sounds dumb, but it really did look exactly like a gigantic human sized hawk, and the "head" even seemed to follow you too, really interesting illusion, since it also hit all the primal parts of the brain that gone "you're about to be fucking eaten by a bird!!!!!!"
a year or two later, when i was gonna take a picture, it was gone, which adds a strange air to "it was right there, i tell you!"

>inb4 go to /x/ for this shit
i want real stories, not >i smelled the rotten shit fart gas, and my best friend was turned into a skinwalker, and then i pulled out that gun from videogame and blasted it, dude trust me
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>>2842719
You're very lucky
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>>2802579
Not supernatural
>Colorado backpacking four pass loop I want to say 2015, thereabouts
>Pass dad teen daughter and his two young sons in the woods going opposite direction
>Odd feeling saying hello to them but assume it's in my head
>Storm blows in but doesn't impact the hike because it's just one night
>3 days later or so we come out and prepare to start heading back to Denver
>Stop in town to eat real food
>See in the news a Dad, teenage daughter, two sons hiking four pass loop, storm blew in, dad and youngest son in one tent had been struck by lightning and killed
>Feels bad man
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>>2848311
The divers who worked on the wreck of the Costa Concordia supposedly saw deepwater jews sniffing around the waterlogged appreciating assets. There's at least one woodblock print by Hokusai down there
95% of the ocean, or so they say.
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>>2802579
>go to stay with gf in Canada where she used to live, I've never been
>we both had a lot of free time, so we go for a bucket list item and take her friend's car to british columbia
>basically just gonna spend time, with the goal of light hiking in pacific rim national park reserve
>we both haven't gone hiking since we were preteens, but chomping at the bit for some freedom atp
>eventually get to the park and start le exploring at around mid day, totally noncommital just talking and walking, couple stuff
>we know where we are, so after making it a ways from the car we get hubris and decide it's fine if we make it back late
>it's just before dusk, really moody and pretty when she disappears to relieve herself, just raises her voice to let me know the direction
>maybe ten minutes later I walk in the direction she went
>it's quiet enough that I hear her before I see her
>she hears me
>'Anon?' her voice is shaky in a way I've never heard outside the bedroom
>she slowly trudges up to me, her jeans are wetter than before
>stares at my chest and just kinda hangs her hands on me, pretty out of character, like she's sad or something, really off vibes
>she hesitates and after two 'What's up?'s she tells me

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>>2850367
I'm EU and she lives in Australia or I'd have already gone back there. I 100% would have stuck around if I hadn't been in boyfriend mode. Sensing the genuine shock in her is the closest thing I've had to a supernatural experience. I'm convinced it's something that could happen again if I just spent more time out, like seeing a shooting star or a rescue helicopter

As for how she described it, she said ''It was like a guy with a low voice, like it was you(me) doing it(doing a voice)'' and ''it was English just without making any sense, like I was about to say 'what'(she always makes me repeat myself when I mumble)

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janny pls…

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>>2850365
depend how it's done, at what time it's set, and how well it's calibrated for the waterbody size
i have one in a small pond near me, it's way too big and noisy for the pond, goes off at 15 for an hour, fish goes in hiding till 18
it can be great, but most of the time it's made by retards and it end up being shit
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>>2850417
>smear shit on the wall
>hur hur why u so mad
see this is why people dislike you
probably why KVD fucked off as well
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the last properly made thread was post No.2832684 on 02 Aug 2025
since then four (4) thread where fucked up, three (3) of them made by skid
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>niche thread
>on a niche board
>still one tremendous faggot to ruin it for everyone
>mostly talk to himself in his new thread like nothing happened
why tho
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>>2850426
>>2850418
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>>2850409
samefag

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Just ordered the North Face Stormbreak 2. What tent are you rocking? What do you love and hate about it? What tent do you want?
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I want to get a tent. I'm a huge fisherman, but I'm also a bit of a hiker and a hunter. I can get fancy top-of-the-line tents for less than the full price of some cheaper brands, making the purchase of one of these fancy tents a no-brainer. I'm thinking about doing a multi-day kayak trip next summer. I'm also interested in hiking into remote fishing spots and spending a day or two and simply camping out instead of paying for a hotel room. I'm a big guy and have found 1 man tents to be too short. I value durability and ease of assembly over ultra-light. What brands and models should I consider?
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>>2827319
I hiked the pct and used all kinds of tarps and tents along the way. The best tent in my opinion is a sub 3lb free-standing two person tent.
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>>2850182
just get like a big agnes if you got money to blow. otherwise an ozark trail is fine
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I got this old canvas tent from the thrift store for about $15. I figured for the price that some of the poles were missing and I couldn't much info about it online but I figured it out and everything was there. Maybe one or 2 tiny holes and one of the bottom zippers needs fixing.
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>>2850361
I hosed it off good and let it dry in the sun and there were no leaks. I'd like to take it camping some day but it's pretty big and bulky and weighs about 30lbs.

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In honor of Halloween, and we haven't talked about this guy in like a year, I'd like to get everyone to remember the tragic tale of James Kim, who got cuck-killed by his nagging white wife.

Guy, his wife, and their daughters, age 4 and 7 mo finished Thanksgiving with family in Seattle, and decided to stay at a resort on the Oregon coast on the way back to San Francisco. He was television personality and audio reviewer for CNET. This was in late 2006, so before smartphones. They missed the turn to the main highway connecting interstate 5 with the Oregon coast, pulled into a gas station to ask directions, and fucked it up from there. The wife was nagging him to get home and it got dark and they ended up on logging roads that theoretically DO connect I-5 and the Oregon coast, but it was snowing heavily and they turned around, got lost, and gave up. He went to seek help and died frozen, and the wife and two daughter survived.

The price a man pays for a hypergamous marriage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Kim
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>>2850324
That is a complete non sequitur
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>>2850325
So was yours, faggot.
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>>2850326
How so ?
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>>2850325
worst of white genes = appalachia
best of asian genes = taiwan
try to keep up
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>>2850345
That is just not how that works
The worst of both gene sets is not going to be regional

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Anyone from /out/ tell me if the Kantamus 60L is worth it? Looking for an endgame backpack that will survive the apocalypse.
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>>2848433
No one cares if someone is carrying a milsurp pack or gear. Everyone knows only REI retards pay premium prices for pretty gear.
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I have the Jääkäri L for /out/ and general travel and the M for every day, have those for more than 3 years now, almost no wear out, they are cool and adaptable, which is what I wanted in the beginning with the additional bags/straps

I have both of them on black, so is no so larp intensive as some anons said here.

The M is kinda uncomfortable with a lot of weight but nothing else, I have used the 2 at the same tame in a long hike through Switzerland and everything was ok

The price is kinda high but imo is a good investment, but as >>2847797 said, get it if you wanted, I did that, and I have no regrets. Just larp as yourself and you will be fine
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>>2850254
lmao sorry it was the L and S for everyday
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>>2850254
black is way more "hardcore" larp then getting it in green. They do seem like a good choice for a short distance bag for rucking tools equipment etc. Trail building on route to hunting camp etc. For any sort of distance they are just overbuilt by a margin of a million 300d is overkill.
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i buy my savottas in m05

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Do /out/ agree ?
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>>2850114
Look you can imply that I believe in a certain narrative and imply that I support other ways of making electricity that are potentially worse then solar (We literally don't know what the effects of these panels will be as we didn't know what the effects of coal would be). But frankly the fact we haven't implemented mass use of nuclear power should tell you everything you need to know about Wind and Solar power. They are scams to make money.
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>>2850165
>We literally don't know what the effects of these panels will be as we didn't know what the effects of coal would be
We know exactly what's in those panels. Retard.
>But frankly the fact we haven't implemented mass use of nuclear power should tell you everything you need to know about Wind and Solar power.
That they are more politically opportune, because they require less initial investment, produce no eternally harmful waste and involve no risks of another chernobyl? How does an utter idiot like you gather from that that wind and solar have no value whatsoever?
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>>2850300
You are such a stupid piece of shit
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>>2850301
You have zero arguments like the lackwitted propaganda-guided drone you are.
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>>2850301
thank you for responding to him before I could return, you've taken the exact words out of my mouth.

Anyone into prospecting/panning/using similar tools to get shiny things while you're /out/? I recently bought a kit and tried it out yesterday, seems like a fun hobby. With the currency at all time lows it might even be lucrative.
Might head up into the White Mountains this weekend and try my luck.
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>>2847951
Not sure why that uploaded flipped...

But it worked great! I found .023g that i missed. Which means there should be about that much more left in there somewhere.
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>>2847967
Give it a try for sure, but you won't be the only one out there, there's ferals camped out in the bush flogging all the well known spots flat out since the price skyrocketed.
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Heading out to the claim Saturday. Wish me luck!
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>>2847959
If you do look for cracks that bisect the creek, quartz veins or other similar bedrock structures can stop gold from traveling. look for clays that are sticky and homogeneous sitting on or close to bedrock as well, you may find they hold lots of course gold.
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>>2833665

What's a sleeping bag you recommend?
I slept two weeks in Norway this summer with a random 5°C sleeping bag, and it wasn't that warm.
I'm planning to go sleep on some mountains this autumn and I want to get comfortable with lower temperatures.
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>>2848065
>Assuming yours is the 62in shoulder width
Yeah, forgot to mention that, didn't go for the long version since the regular one felt too long already.
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>>2847976
I went ahead and bought the sleeping bag, but the previous owner tore the tag off. How can I tell what degree a sleeping bag is made for if it doesn't have the tags, and the color scheme doesn't match anything I see online?
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>>2848631
With down it's almost directly correlated to the loft height on the top of the bag. Synthetic it's very hard to guess. You might just have to get creative by searching. You could also check the overall weight and compare it to older kelty bags
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If you can find one online, I've used the Slumberjack Boundry 0F for the better part of a decade and never got cold once. That includes exposed camping in a hammock at 25 degrees. It's a bit thicker than something like an ultralight but will definitely keep you much warmer - it's squash down in a compression bag and fit in the bottom of a overland pack.
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How is 800g white duck feather for frosty/winter camps?

I just ordered this one, the "Jungle King 800g white duck feather" winter bag, rated for use down to -10. Only 3.3lb means it's lighter than my shitty naturehike spring/summer one. I paid $70 for it in your money with delivery.

I've been getting very sound sleep out there in the trees, but I've been awake at night from the chills, then to keeping the stove alive. Or sleeping hunched up to stay warm and drifting off in the early morning as the temperature improves. This in itself is a kind of stoic existence, shivering away the night time hours full of existential thoughts, it seems to build some spirit. But the time came to get something made for the job without paying twice as much. I just hope I can sleep naked inside even on a frosty night, that would be super comfy.

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Post a picture from your last /out/ing.
A wonderful meadow where I had lunch and a smoke.
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>>2849767
I only hike with Alice. but there are other anons around too.
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>>2849929
Nice, I share the pic with my friends of you on the winter Mt Washington summit with your face scribbled out and Alice poking out of your coat. Great pic anon
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>>2849767
>>2849929
>>2849940
hehe
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>>2849969
I was in the White Mountains October 22 and 23. Was I around some anons and didn’t even know?
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>>2847391
Savour these days my man.


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