All of the evergreens really pop out. I didn't even realize how much fucking moss is everywhere. It's absolutely beautiful and totally negates the fact that most of the forest looks like shit. I thought hiking was going to suck until the first snowfall but it's really quite nice. I spent about 7.5 hours outside today in ~32F. This is my first season trying winter hiking.
>>2852847It's Rich Mountain in WV. There was a nice effect of the higher elevations being especially covered in snow and this highlighting the evergreens. In much of Appalachia, evergreens would have been far, far more common pre-logging. They require/create a specialized fungal ecosystem, and, when logged, the disturbance to the soil meant that hardwood trees were more likely to grow back except at the most extreme, exposed high elevations.
>>2852881>the disturbance to the soil meant that hardwood trees were more likely to grow back except at the most extreme, exposed high elevations.No, evergreens grow better with disturbance because they require more sunlight. That's why red cedar and white pine is so common on the edges of forest and in fields but not in the actual forest itself. If you want more evergreens then petition for more prescribed burns or managed logging to create a more diverse ecosystem. Oh wait leave no trace we need to leave nature completely alone because everything humans do is le bad.
>>2852894>No, evergreens grow better with disturbance because they require more sunlight.that's not the issuethe conifer needles feed the fungus in the soil, when you remove the conifers you starve the fungus, which then dies and lives symbiotically with the treesI suppose hardwoods have lesser fungal requirementsalso, clearcut logging tends to lead to mass forest fires because of the sawdust left behind and trim easily igniting, which further disrupts the bacteria and fungus in the soil >If you want more evergreensI think they would have to amend the soil heavily but there's all sorts of ridgeline slops where I'm pretty sure pre-logging it would have been solid pine/spruce/fir/etc and they don't make much of an effort to restore it and now its kudzu and prickers and heath bushes
>>2851613I love moss. Just wait until you start seeing rime ice forming little windswept icicles on the surface of the sphag
>>2853197have a rock with some moss
Southwestern Australia has these thermokarst lakes like Minnesota or Russia. Does it get very cold there?
>>2853268based retard
Bunga bunga?
>>2853268it gets pretty chillie for Australia standards but nothing even close to Minnesoter or Rusher
Are all those lakes from the ice age or something?
>>2853268>like Minnesotadont believe MNs lake are that (had to look it up) as there is no permafrost in MN. Those lakes are glacially scoured out lakes. granite filled with water.
A or B?
>>2853087the leaves are quite nice
>>2853181they are ok. There is a lot more to good /out than leaves
>>2853218well, winter/early spring is also waterfall season in the east
>>2853220Are there any water falls in the West?
>>2853221Not one, they dont have any water see
heres mine time was about 3 weeks agowas fishing at the river behind my house and had a decent fishing day except for one momentwas drinking with my rican friend who brought some ribs and casting for catfishi had like about 85 yards out and felt a rumbleso im like ill wait for a hit on the hook and then run back and shitwell about 10 minutes goes by and its grtting worselike channeling energy to my sphincter i say fuck that im gonna lose it and start reeeling in my linenow im struggling to hold this flow in reeling in on a 12 foot pole on 40 lb test with a 4oz weight(nriver has some deep black mud), i knew it was gonna be a bad onegod knows 8 seconds into the retreival im probably 40 feet from shore i get a MASSIVE strikeand then it happenedthe force of the fish hitting my hook plus my stance, it must have looked absurb.mind you now, i am wearing swimtrunks (no net) and all this happens in less than a secondi instinctely threw back my rod for the hook land, and in the same action release my bowelsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2852103Why would you shit in a bag, unless you’re about to light it on fire and leave it on someone’s porch after ringing their doorbell? Are you a dog? Just shit on the ground like a normal person.
>>2852103Disgusting You should kill yourself
>>2846731I find it ridiculous when people do this>shit is 100% biodegradable>actually good for the environment in most cases>dog or yourself takes a shit outside>pick it up in plastic bag that will never biodegrade >throw plastic bag in a trash can so it can be delivered to a landfill where it will pollute the earth for hundreds of yearsRetard logic
>>2852103See>>2853235
>>2853108>Just shit on the ground like a normal person.Because no one wants to see or step in your shit. Either dig a cathole or gtfo
Have you ever found a DEAD GUY
>>2852877the happy ending is very appreciated
>>2852864I saw some trucker drove into a river when i was like 5. Not sure if he's dead or not though, i didn't stick around
>>2852904I think every group has at least one guy who gets to that point, some groups are more open about discussing it though
>>2852959That must've been some kinda bait you were using
>>2852933It's a male skeleton, you can tell from the heart-shaped pelvis
KEYSTONE WAS THE FIRST RESORT TO OPEN YESTERDAY AT 3PM!
>>2853202They have night skiing at Keystone
>>2853202Because tourists and transplants will pay hundreds of dollars to ski even for a short amount of time, and the resort is heavily dependent on that money. Resorts are run like a financial house of cards, so they need all the profit they can get. They do stuff like this to squeeze it out of the customers.
>>2853200those are nordic touring boots. They do not need to be as snug as alpine boots. I have those and they are comfortable. As long as your heel is snug and not lifting out everytime you kick then you should be fine
>>2853213I've never been to a night skiing resort but I guess that makes sense. Back in the 00s I used to play golf at this place that had the back 9 illuminated in the winter. It must be super expensive for a whole ski slope and I've never seen it but its a cool idea.
>>2853224growing up in the upper midwest, every ski area had night skiing- but they were tiny. Its def a different proposition out West but some places do it ie; Keystone
Been a while since we've had an EDC thread.What are some things you always carry with you? Got any new gear recently? Knife? Flashlight? Tactical spork?I've been wanting to put together a little edc first aid kit, not like my actual hiking first aid kit, just smaller things I might need on the day to day. But I havnt really settled on a pouch yet, or, if I should get a small plastic tupperware container because it's waterproof and I hear things like bandaids can get roughed up pretty easily in a pouch
What do we think of the new Victorinox Synergy line up?Personally, I think they are kind of ugly, I've never wanted a locking Swiss army knife, and i use the can opener pretty often, so i don't think I will get one
>>2835765If you get Deenz in Oil, then it’s not just an emergency snack, but when combined with one of your spare socks, it’s also an emergency lamp you can use as a heat source too, in a pinch.
>>2853208why use your socks when you can just use some punk wood? or even better, cat tails if in season
>>2853208imagine the smell
>>2853222bears salivating (me too)
How important do you think a survival knife is?Do you think it is a rather not needed item thats need can be superseded by a usual every day knife?It is easier to just snap logs for a fire than to hack them with a survival knife.This is of course not including raw survival where you are needing bushcraft and hunting skills to actually survive. Just general non normie tier camp holiday woodland camping.
>>2847614>he's never cut rope/cordage>he's never de-barked a log>he's never made anything with wood>he's never made a pointed end on a stick>he's never used a ferro rodPretty grim two decades.
>>2830684>use it all the time working in the bush>>2839914just pretending?
>>2838595
>>2815455>>2815458for me a "survival knife" is a macheteif you need to make some fire any knife can do it
Can you guys tell me where I can find high quality boots for hiking I have size U.S 14 and a half wide feet and everything I find is garbage and none of the stores around me carry my size I've been to four different stores I'm currently using boots from Amazon that are just trash and not even wide
>>2853156>>2853135thank you il look into them
>>2853172If your thread is still up when you decide tell us please. I am considering trying the Danner 600s but they are all fake leather.
I have flat feet so they are really wide, 6E. Normally I fit into a 10.5 shoe, but for boots I go up to size 13 to compensate, this works well.Best shoe's I've gotten over the years:Altra Torin 8 10.5 WideBest lightweight trail:Altra Lone Peak 8 10.5 WideBest Boot:Keen Revel IV 13 RegularIf you need the boot to be for cold climate, I'd recommend the high polar one, its taller and has more insulation. Has kept my feet warm in 0 degree weather this hunting season. They are waterproof as well.If you don't have really wide feet, maybe try the Revel IV. It goes up to size 15.
>>2853174Someone who else has a flat foot thank you>>2853173Will do
>>2853172Size US 15W here. Can confirm. Am on my second pair of Moab 3s, and they last about 1,000 miles.
What's the best backpacking location in Europe?
>>2853071Turkey
>>2853091cause the AT is backpacking everything is is downhill of that idea. its the hippie experience every normie wants, if anyone of those people went on a real wilderness trip they'd go insane just from having to be alone.
>>2853071ah another finland thread very nice
>>2853188what if you're already too lonely in your daily life and need to take every chance at socializing in order not to go insane ?(asking for a friend)
>>2853190That's the AT. What do you think the shelters are for?
Where are all the mushrooms edition?
>>2852075nigga
>>2852146How did it go?
>>2840647Camping in the North Pennines as often as possible. See hardly anyone in summer, in winter its empty. Bring on the storms and snow. Cross country skiing when it snows. >>2852146Yorkshire is massive, any particular area? Moors? Dales? all the flat lands in East Yorkshire? The weather can turn quick in the moors and dales so unless you have a bit of experience fell walking in bad weather best get that before you decide to go out overnight. I wouldnt say Kielder needed more experience than those two, just being used being in and navigating in pine plantations - pick a place you are going to go to, plan out your route on the map and stick to it. Donna Van Senior on YouTube has a few videos camping up there and staying in the bothies there.
Mild as shit right now from these storms.I'm hoping the polar vortex collapses and we get some snow and cold weather.
>>2853146Probably the worst type of weather this past week or two - wet and windy. Basically nothing can be done outside without it being miserable
wyd when u gotta take a big smelly diarrhea in the woods
Directly into a fresh water source so I can wash myself after
>>2849923YOU'RE A FUCKING MENACE YOU KNOW THAT
Diarrhoea is actually one of the cleanest ways to defecate. It's a liquid, and easily cleaned. You just need another liquid, or something wet to wipe it off.It's arguably worse to do a regular shit that sticks to the anus and cheeks and needs a ton of wiping. Those fucking marker pen shits...
>>2851925
I live not far from here, im upsetti spaghetti, whats a nigga to do in order to stop this senseless abuse of the natural world
>>2852344It wont be a public roads. That said, roads are permanent so eventually, the road will probably see public use.>>2848558NTA but I live in the Arctic near where this is happening. People live up here annon. >>2844788The Arctic is the weather machine for the northern hemisphere. Everyone should care about what’s going on up here. >>2844825Kill yourself.
>>2844731There’s a difference between how the public uses the term “wilderness” and how conservation agencies define “Wilderness”. Many places that are not designated Wilderness are still wilderness as far as they function and how the public conceives of them. “Wilderness” as designated by conservation agencies refers to specific lands protected by the wilderness act of 1964.I don’t think most journalists or even anctivists are intentionally being misleading with the use of that language. It’s a very common term used to describe all kinds of natural places and besides, in this case, there’s virtually no functional difference between the land that has been designated Wilderness by the BLM/NPS and the land that has not except for that the former has laws theoretically protecting it from resource extraction. The caribou don’t care about an arbitrary line on a map that designates one side as Wilderness and one as not. For all intents and purposes, the Arctic is largely completely roadless (red dog mine road being an exception and a good comparison to the proposed Ambler road) and therefore extremely wild.
>>2852893just have to contact the mine operator and agree to their radio control protocols.
>>2852897Even the locals here who are for the road are very concerned about outsiders coming down the road and fucking up their subsistence. I’m sure the agreement made with the mining company is going to include a requirement for them to strictly enforcement access to the road.But like I said, roads are permanent. The company may successfully keep the public off it for the 40-50 years it operates but who knows what’ll happen after that.
trump won kek faggots BTFO>2025 4cuckniggers are tranny liberals
Any hobby naturalists here? What do you study or work on?
>>2852265next time you see her tell her your anon friend from 4chan /out/ forum's favourite natural form of toilet paper is the local mosses
>>2852265that's beautiful anon, she sounds like a keeper so best of luck
i've been meaning to get into marine ecology and hunting/fishing
I’m a professional environmental geologist. During college I took paleontology and stratigraphy. It would be cool to get back into that kind of stuff as a hobby.
>>2851756I'm a Geo and Paleo major in college. I want to focus on late cretaceous ammonites like pic related that I found
Was he retarded? or free?
>>2851294>>2834745One mistake, one single blind spot, can be the death of you in situations like these. To presuppose you're absolute control over the natural world is to relinquish the very possibility from your grasp. Arrogant fools.>>2836086At least he died challenging himself to live true to his values. Doesn't that sound better than being just another bitter coward throwing insults at the dead? Those that lack the Faustian spirit can never seem to go without slandering it.>>2835018>doesn't sound like he was in control of the situation at all.Who is? You would dismiss the active mans attempted struggle based purely on his later collapse under it's weight. "Captain hindsight" doesn't even cover it. How can you know your limits should you choose to never test them? There is no end to the preparation that could be expected of you in an environment like that, the mere fact that he made it as long as he did is meaningful. You're nihilistic disengagement with his struggle has relegated you to the self imposed undeath of the critic-at-a-distance. Every Anon dies, but not every Anon truly lives.
>>2852741He's right. If you can't preserve the food, then you starve.
>>2833113transitioning would have saved her...
He was a vagabond for most of his post-college adventures. Relied on people to help him get by while in the lower 48. Then went full retard in Alaska and ended up dying when he was actually on his own.
>>2832865>81 oh Jerusalem!
