#534- “saltwater edition” EditionPrevious Thread:>>2860508 janny pls…Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtacklehttps://imgur.com/a/1Xw3NNew Bong Fishin Guidehttps://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTqFirst for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2865208probably skid's boyfriend again that couldn't stand the sight of a woman in bikini
>>2865178>>2865187Cool thanks. I'll practice casting with nothing tied on in the yard tomorrow then go pick up some extra tippet and leader and some dry flies for when I get to water.
>>2865215>then go pick up some extra tippet and leaderi make them with spool leftovers
>>2865176There's a learning curve. Its all about a smooth acceleration to a hard stop. You need the rod to always be increasing speed during the entire casting stroke to establish and maintain a load in the rod, then that hard stop is what transfers the load in the rod in to energy in the fly line. A way that it was described to me was like trying to fling water off a brush in a controlled manner- if you just wave it around you get inefficient arcs but if you give it a smooth acceleration to a hard stop the water will flick off in a more or less controlled and efficient manner. The orvis videos on youtube along with practice in the back yard is where i learned to do it. When you do get a nice combo i like echo for their bang/buck ratio.Trout and land locked salmon are fun but dont neglect warm water species, sunfish bass, crappies, and more will readily tske flies. An afternoon harassing bluegill with a fly rod is a lot of fun.>>2865178>>2865215Nymphs arent inherently easier or harder to cast. Big bushy dry flies suck energy out of your cast and can be hard to turn over, and heavy bead head nymphs can be hard to control, but a weightless or lightly weighted pheasant tail will cast great.>>2865187Im going to mostly agree- a single fly is the easiest thing to fish, but it can be very frustrating to fish dries. Im going to say a single soft hackle is the best beginner fly. Easy to cast, hard to fish wrong, and a good impressionistic representation of a variety of aquatic insects. Id also like to reccomend small weightless streamers, like wooly buggers and zonkers, because they're also not too hard to cast but are hard to fish wrong. >>2865216I tie my own leaders out of berkley trilene xl and berkley big game monofilament. Not sure what contemporary pricing is now but ~5 years ago i bought all the berkley trilene spools for ~35 dollars and have only had to replace two of the spools using the line for both fly leaders, conventional leaders, and tying rigs.
>>2865215Be sure to always use a leader. Casting without one can damage the head.
how do i stop gnomes stealing my boots while /out/?
>>2863886First time in America going /out/, any tips or advice for a European? >>>/wsg/6120882
>>2865081We have weather in America, know what heat/cold/wind/rain range you could be dealing with and be prepared for it.carry water.Know where you are, stay on trails, maintain awareness of landmarks.The American wilderness is not a petting zoo, take pictures from a distance, do not approach the wildlife, do not touch the wildlife, do not try to take selfies with the wildlife.
>>2865088Never go full retard.
>>2865090stop it with the europhobia!
>he doesnt salt his boots before bed
I HATE my job, I HATE normies. How tf can I just drop out of society and get neetbux. I have a small farm and a bitch to leach off of but I have no idea how to welfare meme. Do I just tell the doctor im autistic and get disability?!?!?!? I make to much for food stamps and I just don't pay my medical bills for any ER visit ext... I have a kid on the way so im scared to drop out without knowing what to do.... BTW I don't give a fuck what anyone around me thinks.... help... living out my RV BTW the pic is from my homestead back in January
I quit my job and fucked off to make and sell firewood
>>2865067How do you make enough money to pay your mortgage?
>>2865070I dont have a mortgage I live with my parents.Or rather right next to them, in an old barn I renovated into a small apartment.
>>2865075Tbh I wouldn't admit this
>>2865077This aint exactly linkedin we're browsing
Why is it so expensive? It seems overpriced for a trekking pole tent.
>>2864551no one, and i mean no one, needs a $500 tent
>>2864996I have a $800 tent.
>>2864988wtf did you mean?>>2864996i didnt need it but i paid 1300€ for a tent and it has served me quite well, my nephew and his gf has used it, a friend used it, know i will never have to buy a tent ever again. its been along for 6years now. thats 6 years of not buying a shitty 100€ tent and not getting frustrated that it breaks when i need it the most.
>>2865021you are a euro so just go in your little hut and leave us alone dude
>>2865021euros don't do any real camping
>>2864116I know you've done mulnomah falls but there's a nice loop you can do by starting at wahkeena and coming down the multnomah trail. lots of the trails farther up the gorge are still closed after the 2017 wildfires (RIP oneonta) but I highly recommend the eagle creek trail as well for a nice out-and-back (or for backpacking if you've for the gear).outside of the gorge there's lots of options around mount hood and of course the coast (saddle mountain) and on the washington side (dog mountain) and farther north (goat rocks)
>>2864805nice man. I wouldn't recommend mt. defiance btw, in case you were considering that. it's a nice trail (although difficult) but there's a road going straight to the top + a radio station so the summit sucks.>>2864266harmless garter snake, if you didn't already know>>2864826including map for this
Anyone done the new Mitchell Point hike after they opened up the parking lot there?Haven't been since they closed the trailhead in like 2021 or whenever
>>2864642I drive out to red territory to go hiking all the fucking time. I think it's you that needs to be fished out of your chud water and talk to some humans, period.
>>2864960Kys shit colored jam boy
If you're going car-camping you are obligated to use your house-on-wheels as part of your camping setup.I'm thinking of getting some of that mosquito netting with the weighted bottom to make the trunk into a pop-up camper. There's more than enough room to sleep.Rain will require a full tarp from the roof back, but that's easier.
>>2864840Make sure to disconnect your battery so the courtesy light in the trunk doesn't drain it overnight
>>2864842Word.I think I'm going to install one of these for the battery.
>>2864840i lived in my 96 honda civic for 3 months in belfield nd. it was good times. i poached internet and electricity from the hotel. i would run an extension cord to the outlet for truck heaters to be plugged into and run a little space heater and my cpu with that to save gas. it was good times
I threw a mattress pad in the back of my shitty hatchback and honestly it was very cozy and I liked it much more than a tent.
>>2864875i have the left one in my project car right now. it works well.
What is this and what should I do to it?
>>2864856Huh I didnt know that thanks anon. I was just readinghttps://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-43/subtitle-B/chapter-II/subchapter-F/part-6300But I didn’t know there was a difference between a wilderness study area.But dont most solar things have motors in them to convert the electricity? And I would consider 4 screws on an out of place, upright log on top of a peak “Building, installing, or erecting structures or installations”.If its not permanent am I good to take it down? There were no signs or anything.
>>2864856wilderness designation should be abolishedto best maintain trails and forests you simply NEED power tools, and otherwise you will have unsafe trails and no proper way to restore habitats to ideal conditionsI think banning GAS engines for recreational purposes in wilderness is fine, but you should be allowed to have bikes or ebikes that doesn't harm anyone99% of wilderness is pre-logged, already-disturbed land it isn't pristine and was already clearcut at one point (I know you are talking about desert, but it's all forest here), mined over thereland is meant to be enjoyed by humans in a responsible manner, not roped off arbitrarily by boomer bureaucrats
>>2864994Fuck you
>>2864993Well i dont remember the text of the act but de facto everyone managing wilderness has not included small solar stuff. I mean no one is banning solar panel phone chargers. It is not permanent because it can be removed without any effect to the landscape. What they shouldnt do would be to bolt it into the rock, where the only way to remove it leaves permanent holes in the rock. And the rules are different for gov research work anyway if that is what it is. Why would you take it down? What if thats the local BLM field office or a partner group collecting data? They often dont put BLM logos on things because in many places that makes things more likely to get vandalized...
>>2864994Cope and seethe, wilderness designation is permanent. Nothing you can do. No you dont need power tools, they cleared trails long before them with crosscuts. And many wilderness areas have special amendments to their management plan that allow for engine use for trail work, mostly in national parks, and all allow it for fire fighting.The ban on ebikes in wilderness has nothing to do with a motor being involved it's that all mechanized or motorized travel is banned e or no. But anybody abled enough to ride a bike on trails can ride a horse on them, and stock use is allowed in wilderness and is more accessible than riding a bike.There is a much larger proportion of virgin forested wilderness in the west; and not just semi-desert woods; montane forest, alpine forest, and pnw coastal forests. Sorry you dont have any much left over there
Look at this gay virgin tree. I'm LOLing so hard right now thinking about fags who look out their window and see this gay shit out there.LOL
Lmaoooo gay aah looking bitch tree
You're right but you shouldn't say it.
I usually bring some chocolate, nuts and dried fruit, but I've started making my own beef jerky from ground beef. The batches I've made have been good so far, but I wouldn't trust it for more than two days.>>2860794I always stock up on them whenever they're on sale in Lidl.
>>2863354>>2863355What's the go to energy drink after lovingly stuffing sausage in your mouth just like >>2860794 >>2863366?>>2863366Huh didn't think you could smoke ground beef, try any others? I remember loving turkey jerky as a kid. Beef jerky prices are outrageous so haven't bothered in years. Is it worth the effort?Pro-Tip I just remembered, there's small grass fed beef sticks from Costco that help create near no wipe events. Now that I think of it, I should step up by putting my stool where my mouth is and test this further to benefit mankind
>>2856996Oatmeal, ramen, some variant of cliff bars, tuna pouches. That's all you need.
>>2864294>Huh didn't think you could smoke ground beef>Is it worth the effort?It works pretty well. The good part is that you don't need to marinade the meat first. Just mix, roll it out between two sheets of baking paper for your prefered thickness (I go for ~5mm), and cut it into strips. The same principles goes as for regular jerky: Low fat and only use meat from sources you trust. >try any others?I'm considering trying making jerky out of ground lamb. A local farm have some pretty good deals once in a while.
>>2857354>dried meat>cheese>rolls
anyone who likes to go to abandoned places and sleep there for one night? sounds comfy
>>2863619Yeah
>>2863619How hard is it to find relatively untouched abandoned places?Every abandoned place I've ever been too has just been wall-to-wall grafitti, trash thrown everywhere, and needles.Makes it not a not very enjoyable experience.
>>2864079Do u prefer baguette or tourists delight?
>>2865012come to eastern europe, Ignore OP
>>2865012LolLmao even
General thread for freediving and/or spearfishing, since I don't see one mentioning either.My personal questions:I've been thinking about taking a certification course so I can learn to do these things correctly and safely. I'm probably happy just doing the diving, but spearfishing seems like an easy and practical extension. I only casually skindive and rod-and-reel fish at the moment. Does anyone have experience taking such a course?I know I'll need my own gear early on, but each instructor I can find seems to have their own equipment shops, so I imagine they wouldn't be impartial about the quality of other gear on the market. I live on the Pacific coast of the US, so I see that a 7 mm open cell wetsuit is strongly recommended. What good/bad features should I look out for on wetsuits and other equipment? For non-competitive diving, carbon fiber fins are almost certainly not worth the price, right?
>>2801721diluted shampoo
>>2856872Yes. Shark el shiek is better. Dab is full of tourists. Also there is a new government fee to enter the blue hole.>>2857141Best way to add bottom time is hangs. I learned a great technique for this from Tory George, when he lived at my place during COVID. If your PB is 70ft (21m) then you go to 75% of that (ie 50ft or 14m) and hang for 30seconds before ascended. If thats easy, then add 10 seconds. Do this till you reach a hang of 1:30, before ascending. Then you should be ready to go deeper. Remember the unwritten freediving rule: After you reach 100ft, you have to switch to meters.
>>2758772I wonder if anyone has ever taught a marine mammal to breathe out of a regulator...
homeon,,,lake Tahoe.,slow,torture easingin,,swim short wayout,,,shivercity!,,,see odd layer downine feets,,dive down and discover thermocline!,oOOoocrap, its like pure ICE!,,race home and HOT shower for an hour to recover.,,,,,Kaikoura, NewZealand,,wake in tenthirday,snow,,snow to watersedge.,,,hay, im tuff.,swim outinto the Murky water, allife is camo/dull.,blend in or Die.,,head pounding cold.,race back to camp shower,,all day trying to get right.,,,,Head cold sick threedays.,ouch.
>>2862283How do you time it? Seems goofy to be watching your watch while hanging. Is there a dive computer setting?
Anyone from /out/ tell me if the Kantamus 60L is worth it? Looking for an endgame backpack that will survive the apocalypse.
What's the better buy for a shit hits the fan scenario? I'm thinking the Savotta for durability over everything. These are the Savotta Jääkäri XL and the Hyperlite Mountain Gear Southwest
>>2857750Of course you MAY have to add pouches depending on what YOU want to do with it. But i like that. i can decide if i want to carry certain things in a certain way. i can vary it because of the high amount of molle. pic related; took everything i needed for a nice overnighter in the swamps. fanny pack in the back was used with molle carabiners as a sternum strap cheast pack. The jääkkäri is a platform you can use on its own or choose to build upon. Im more than happy with it.
>>2864155forgot to attach pic
>>2863917For those little nipple snap-fasters, if you give the male one a gentle love-tap with a hammer, it should flare out a bit and hold tighter.
Savotta
Hey /out/, peak season for foraging is upon usPost your harvests and discuss foraging and eating wild plants itt You do that, right?Pic related, some wild asparagus I just picked and flowering wild garlic in my backyard, that reminds me I gotta go to the forest very soon and get more in my super secret wild garlic spot
>>2863685Pathetic junkie fucking losersuch a fucking reject you can't even cop real drugs man you are such a fucking loser
>>2863685Papaver rhoeas ? probably not much. You want the pods/latex though, but it's so small nobody cares to do it. Californian poppy is used as very mild sedative. Apart from classical heroin producers ( golden triangle, indian subcontinent, now Mexico too ?)There are areas where some pharmaceutical poppy fields exists (Czechia, west of France, probably others places) ; local users steal some pods and do extractions. You can overdose on strong poppy tea.
I'm reading a book about it right now, i would like to get into this stuff, i think it's so cool. Nothing has started growing in the forest yet but when they do i will have a look.
Amerimutt living in trip. I had a productive “scrumping” season last November. Nothing much to nibble this time of year in my area though, I don’t much like nettles and I haven’t smelled any garlic in the woods
>>2865016Living in Europe, meant to type
Hello /out/ it's me again. Maybe it is time for another abandoned mine exploration thread. I have posted these for over a decade; this will be the last one. AMA. I'll answer what I can. I hope you enjoy.
it's funny how we find things like this. I've never visted /out/ before today and the only reason I have is because the banner made me chuckle and then I saw this thread. Got curious and read through the whole thingThanks for your work over the years anon. I may not have been around to see it, but if this thread is anything to go by, it was worth it all the while. It's a shame there's hardly any mines like this in my area. Most of them have been completely blocked off or didn't go underground to begin with
>>2863467The only thing I liked more than exploring mines were the people I met who shared the same passion.
>>2858471Take this with a grain of salt, butI‘m due to get shoulder surgery soon and am already excited about next year when I should be able to actually use it again. I‘m going to start learning rock climbing and you have me thinking about using it to explore. I hope you‘ll be well, anon.
>>2864017best of luck with the surgery. I broke one of my ankles while exploring mines. It took a few surgeries and a few years but works well enough again.
>>2860185>>2862245>I will never tell you the details of my life>you will walk yap yap yap yap yap>I can honestly say I have contributed as much if not more than I had ever received from this god forsaken place>more yappingDon't let the door hit you on the way out. Good riddance.
did you know that the colorado river doesn't reach the ocean anymore, and hasn't consistently since the 60sit all gets sucked up for irrigation and municipal water on arizona and mexicothere's just a dry delta in baja california where it once wasa similar fate has actually befallen a bunch of rivers in the southwest
>>2862822>18%Doubt
>>2862823i dont think you realize just how much water hectares upon hectares of crops drinks up
There is no solution to this predicament that does not involve a precipitous drop in the global human population and the subsequent halting of the global techno-industrial enterprise. Deportation is a red herring.
>>2863098The solution would be to not use land for ag. Leave the land open and undeveloped as national wildlife preserves.
>>2858829You know what's "ideal".You and everyone else dying.
