Last thread >>2844498This is a thread for enjoying a pipe while doing outdoor activities. If you ask why this belongs on /out/, you've never spentan evening by the campfire with a pipe silently enjoying the nature around you, and you're missing out.>how to get startedPurchase a corn cob pipe (or a cheap briar pipe) and a pouch of Half and Half or Captain Black tobacco from a smoke shopor online. You will need a lighter or match, and something to tamp it with--a large nail works well if you don't have a pipe tool.Fill the pipe with tobacco, pack it down halfway, top it off, pack it down to 3/4, top it off again, pack gently and enjoy. Smokeslower than you think you need to, the tobacco tastes best when it is burning cool. Tamp and re-light as needed. If you stillhave trouble, try different methods on YouTube until you find one that works for you.>smoking a pipe will give you cancerOriginally the Surgeon General found that pipe and cigar smokers, following a careful study of the statistics (at a time whenmost adults smoked, so they had a good sample size), had insignificant death rate increases. Nowadays, tobacco is beinglegislated against while hard drugs are being legalized. Put two and two together. Tobacco is just another good thing under attack by the government.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2857785Would rather spend the $6 on a new pipe than smoke Elmer's glue or cigar ash.Good thing you can't burn through clay.
So I bought a new Peterson from smokingpipes a while back. The hole that goes into the bowl is completely off-center in the mortis and doesn't line up with the hole in the tenon at all (if I'm using these terms correctly), to the point it's impossible to run a pipe cleaner through it without removing the stem. None of my other pipes are like that and I'm starting to wonder if it's a manufacturing error or something. Worth bitching to smokingpipes about? It actually smokes really well, it's just a bit annoying not being able to get a pipe cleaner through it when it starts to gurgle.
>>2857910Peterson might be the most popular brand but according to AI it has the highest percentage of bad reviews. The quality isn't what it once was, they probably hire immigrants.
>>2857910the air passage should always be centered to the bowl (unless its an oddball pipe, which is very rare)its probably a manufacturing defect, a common one with pipesare you able to post a picture?
>>2857910wait, i just realized you said >it's impossible to run a pipe cleaner through it without removing the stemdo you not understand what a peterson dry system is?its perfectly fine to remove the stem at any time as long as it has an army tenonyou're not talking about a manufacturing defect, are you?
Why is half an acre the absolute minimum land area needed to be self sufficient?
If I wouldnt have seen these in person i would claim this is an AI pic.There's actually a feral flock in Florida.Ive thought about releasing a breeding group on my property but thats sone expensive coyote snacks.
If anybody remembers my blue Ayam Cemani mix from quite awhile back, here she is today.
>>2854614I'm not that guy, but I understand the post and it's nonsense.Lets break down your tard logic:"I could live off ~$24 of rice a month""You spend $20 a month at the store"Therefore"You don't live off food you grow"That doesn't follow at all.And I don't even need to explain why, because you already know it. (which is why you kept giving yourself outs like "maybe it's cheese") You're just too arrogant to admit you're wrong, a retard, and a jackass.
>>2857522If hes lucky he got 50 pounds of meat from that deer.A decent steak is 12oz.Hamburger helper takes a pound.I burn through 10 pounds just making a batch of jerky that I snack on and is gone in less than a week (I like jerky).You can get a couple meals from a chicken. The fastest growing hybrids are ready for butchering in about 6 weeks.I guarantee hes buying more than rice and cheese.Sustenance farming is a massive amount of work.Last year I did some green beans in about a 10'x40' plot. One particular day at the peak of harvest it took me 14 hours to pick, snap and can the days harvest. I think that was about 3 dozen quarts (got about 400 quarts total).Growing your own food is awesome. They taste better and are healthier.But its only supplemental unless your literally a peasant farmers that does nothing else with your day.
I have a 1/2 acre garden and I grow a couple different types of berry, some native fruit trees, tomatoes, chillies, all kinds of herbs, and have some bok choy going. I definitely could grow a lot more but most of my garden is lawn and a trampoline for the kids.
Post your favorite /out/ patches. Also, how do you display any patches you don't have on a pack? I tried doing a board but I think I need more patches because it feels empty.
>>2857761information for zoomers, you are allowed to get mad about things you care about.with real people, you can see the hate and love from their eyes.
>>2856978you have to go back
>>2853333did you make those, good job to whoever did. I just got a larper Civilian Conservation Corps patch
>>2857796nah some other anon was selling them. they're classic /out/ memes which he had stitched up and was selling for awhile.the river shitter picture I drew so he was a good sport and sent me the patches for free, on account of it being my artwork I guess
>>2849939I also have that one on the bottom. It's so cute
did you know that the colorado river doesn't reach the ocean anymore, and hasn't consistently since the 60sit all gets sucked up for irrigation and municipal water on arizona and mexicothere's just a dry delta in baja california where it once wasa similar fate has actually befallen a bunch of rivers in the southwest
>>2857105A state wildlife sanctuary borders my western property line. A cattle ranch is down the road. I drive past the cattle ranch multiple times a week. I honestly do not think cattle ranching is inefficient. The cows are loose on hundreds of acres eating grass. The grass grows with the naturally occurring sun and rain. Once or twice a year the rancher takes fat mature cattle to market and buys small yearlings. I am sure he has to give the cows antibiotics. The ranchers I pass at the local feed & seed do not seem stressed out to me. They do not seem to think they are caught up in some horribly inefficient machine.
>>2851578Your two dimensional comprehension of the post you're replying too is truly remarkable.>>2853357You're very retarded.Electricity is orders of magnitude easier to distribute than water and most megacities on earth are literally ON rivers you idiot.
>>2857909Man you ARE retarded.unless your in literally india you don't pump water directly from rivers you dam and make reservoirs.
>>2857911>NO YOUwow, I was thinking you had 100 IQ but 80 is more accurate.Tell me more about some nonsensical tangent that has nothing to do with what I said while highlighting your own intellectual short comings. Re read what I posted and try again. I can't tell if you're ESL or simply incapable of coherent thoughts.
>>2851550>if you're not a mentally-crippled infinity immigrants cultist you're far right!
Just got this from an estate sale for a few bucks. I can’t seem to find it anywhere online. The markings say “camp trails night” another word after night but I can’t remember
>>2857185that my friend is aliexpress special 9000. your bag sucks and you should feel bad
lame bag but ok for a beginner especially if you got it for a few dollars
>>2857185I didn't know Camp Trails made an internal frame bag. I thought they went out of business back in the external frame days.
>>2857185Nice boots Woody.
What is the most hardcore hobby and why is it cave diving?
>>2857079>That being said simply operating your car on the highway is statistically more dangerous than just about anything you can doFor the same reason cows are more dangerous than sharks. So which one do you chose to be next to?
>>2857021This is an only slightly exaggerated account of what it's like to get to the Hall of Faces in Hellhole Cave.
>>2855501Literally what the fuck is in there
>>2855863>Wingsuit base jumping:Soar like an eagle, amazing views, and if you must splatter across a mountainside so be it >Cave diving:Slowly swim your way into a miserable, lightless, watery rectum and just fucking die
>>2857915I mean the goal is to be able to swim back out
Have any of you seen bigfoot?
>>2857700>>>/tg/>>>/x/
>>2857774Most things can be explainedThere have been multiple "famous" bears that walked around on 2 legs.One was shot by a hunter and pissed off the local community.(i dont think pic is him).Imagine youre out hiking and catch a glimpse of this thing through the trees from 100 yards away. Of course youre not going to think "its just a bear".
>>2857752When I was a kid, we'd camp on a beach on the side of the local lake. Every night we'd hear a crash in the woods and we'd freak out that it was a monster, or a hobo or some joker threw a rock into the woods trying to scare us.Years later I learned that we had flying squirrels in the area, and that flying squirrels are crepuscular and I came to the conclusion we were in fact hearing less then elegant landings.
>>2857840Deer also do a lot of crashing around.Fighting during the rut season scrubbing thw felt off their antlers.Theu kill dozens of sapings every year just scrubbing their antlers at my place.
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Who makes decent snow shoes for bold explorers?
>>2857299They have weight ratings. People really need to weigh their gear (and themselves) before figuring out which snow-shoes to get. I've never heard of a pin breaking, or the metal housing, but I have heard of bindings failing.
I found a pair of "used" brand-new Flex VRT online for cheap. I already love the BOA bindings. I'll be testing them on a moderate mountain tour, in - if the forecasts are correct - fresh snow. Come to think of it, I bet the avalanche warning level will be quite high.
I got TSL Camos and I can't tell if they suck or not because they're the only snowshoe I use. Last outing they were collapsing several inches with every step and I punched through. Is it even possible to tell if getting Lightning Accents would help?
>>2857299>>2857468I think the weight rating is more a matter of the amount of provided float, unless you're drastically over the rated weight. I know that out here in the northeast we don't really have 5+ feet of powder so float is less important than traction for us, at least for more "technical" hiking snowshoes. I could be completely wrong on the weight ratings though. >>2857623Several inches is fine, you aren't going to float on the very surface without pretty large shoes especially with a heavier bag on.
>>2857626Float and weight rating are different things.Weight rating is the design threshold before mechanical failure probability skyrockets. Float is directly related to the type of snow you're hiking through.MSR have additional extenders you can add to their shoes that will increase the "float" but will not increase the "weight rating."I live in the west so the snow is heavy and wet. I never use the floats. I can also, easily, go over the shoe's wight ratings but still be able to "stay on top of" the snow.
Is there anything I should know to deal with winter conditions hiking? I've never been hiking with a significant amount of snow or ice, but am planning to do some in January in the Appalachians around VA, WV, MD, and/or PA.
>>2856676>>2856688Trekking poles do almost nothing to trails beyond "slightly" increase water absorption. Deer fuck up trails more than trekking poles.There are examples of trails that are hundreds and some thousands of years old. The problem is always rain/snow erosion, trash, and invasive species brought in by dogfuckers.
>>2855046You can replace the hats, neck warmer and balaclava with a single polar buff.
>>2855000I've summited Washington in the winter. You want a rigid boot with crampons.
I see you just mentioned hiking. Be careful in the winter time though. Understand that it gets very cold at night and often windy. If you decide to camp overnight you need a very good inflatable pad to keep you off of the frozen ground. The ground will wick all of the heat away from your body because your body weight will crush the insulating material you are laying on.- quality inflatable sleeping pad- quality sleeping bag- quality tent- suitable layers of clothing. Seems easy enough until you get caught in a rain shower on a 35 degree day with wind.- food - water
>>2857659I like having spares, especially of different weights in case I sweat one out or want to adjust. How do you propose to wear a buff as a hat?>>2857781>You want a rigid boot with crampons.I respectfully disagree. There are some routes where you need steel-shanked mountaineering boots and crampons like lions head, but ammo and jewell are both walk-ups you can do in trail runners and microspikes on a good day. I absolutely believe in coming prepared though, and on the bad days packing light and fast like that will get you killed. That being said, if you were to park at ammo on a sunday or monday the weekend crowd will probably have tamped down the trail enough to breeze up in a few hours under good conditions.
>drives his truck to a pre-built camp site to "survive" thereVery cool content.Don't trust any outdoor youtube who doesn't show himself actually hiking to an otherwise unreachable spot.
>>2857406We know this already. 99% of out-tubers do this shit. It has been common practice since Discovery Channel.
>>285740690% of innawoods is a <30 minutes from their truck.
>>2857406>oh no! there is content farmer slop in my pure content farmer slop! how could this have happened?!11
>>2857406i like greg because he screws up all the time and often barely sticks to the challenge gimmick. he just likes sleeping in the woods
>>2857799I like Greg because of the fucking saw he took to Alone.
Post your /out/ edc kit.Just pretend the sleeping bag is a hammock and this is mine
I live in a community disconnected from the road system and it takes the police 2+ hours to get here if they decide to show up. I never leave home without my bugout bag and some degree of firepower, in the event any of the tweakers decide to start tweaking at me.
>>2852190the more gear you have the more you'll get tired and became a targetso many prep tards that will die in apocalipse and camping scenario so many bullshit itens
I can't go anywhere without my 400 AD Roman Dodecahedron. Me and all my homies carry a Roman Dodecahedron on us in case we need to let that thing talk.
>>2855726Dude got so assblasted he retorted to the forced and double capitalized fake laugh. Wow.
>>2857063Okay but youre not actually going out in jeans and converse, are you?
Discuss /out/tubers here.
i recommend IohanGueorguiev, very comfy videos showing his bike trips through alaska and south america. he is a very simple, honest and good person and luckily he doesn't post anymore, so he didn't turn into a content creator like many others
>>2856443Alfie dropped-off a long time ago and lost all his traction by not posting for a couple years. Last I saw he was uploading intermittently again but it's the same old stuff and just not that engaging anymore. Kinda sad but also glad to see he's obviously got other things taking his time and attentionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT2TEwF634c
>>2854070Sounds comfy. Thanks anon.
Anyone know who that old guy who was living out in the woods in Alaska was? All I remember is he lived in a tent during the winter and made a video where he made "cowboy coffee" by just pouring his grounds into a pot he had boiling over a fire.
itchy boots
Hello /out/ serious (though retarded) thread. I won't find rest until I've hunted, killed, skinned, cut up and put in glass jars a 120+ pounds wild boar.Problem is, my country's admin is retarded (even moreso than I) and I still don't have my hunting license, so no heavy firepower for me.Now, how do I prepare physically and mentally to be up to the task ? I haven't found any serious advice and my dad, who's a hunter, told me that was a retarded idea. I'm sure there has to be a way though, please help.
>>2856856>>2856857What are you on about bruh ?
Shovel, sack of apples, netting, rope, sharpened sticks, camo stand, bow or crossbow, boar pike/spear, big boy bowie, antistab leggins, armguards and belly corset, patience. You do the math.
>>2857179I like the way you think. Do you have anything else to say ?
>>2855678Listen to your dad he is way smarter than you and he has actual experience, plus he's a real man unlike you.
>>2855837>amerimutt education>>2855735>Who careswhite people do
Weather is starting to get cold and I wanted to get you guys opinion so I figured I'd get the wool general goingWhat's an acceptable blend in your guys experience for /out/ings? I'm looking at getting one of those L.L. Bean birdseye sweaters and it's 80 wool 20 Rayon. Will the rayon be detrimental at all? Anyone have experience?
>>2854381Anon, try ebay. It's your best bet for affordable wool, especially for women's clothing. It takes some getting used to, but they have filters so you can just search for something like shirt/blouse/sweater and then filter out all the materials that aren't wool and set an affordable price range and you should still have a good number of results. They also have the bid option usually which lets you try to haggle them down a few bucks.The one thing is to always double check the description, and ideally try to see if the product tag is included in the photos because I've seen stuff marked as 100% wool but the tag shows 5% and the rest is polyester or the like. I was able to get my wife a few sweaters, slacks, mittens, knitted hat, coat, and union suit all for around $20 a piece (the coat might've been closer to $50)
>>2857667Same here. My WW denim jeans arrived over Christmas. I got them tailored and have worn them every frickin day. Love em.Also bought my first John Smedley for lounge wear and it's some of the best merino I've ever felt. Bit of a wool addict now.
>>2857654gimme
>>2857654>thatsniceifeelhappyforyou.jpg>>2857667>>2857723Mr. Money Bags over here.
>>2857667>>2857723hellyeah fellow weatherwoollie herejust got my innes ranch lynx anorak last week, it's so soft it feels like fleeceshould be getting another pair of jeans when i get home from work today as well, great way to start the weekend
can anyone recommend a good pair of hiking boots? price doesn't really matter, i'm just trying to get a decent pair of boots that won't bust a hole straight through the bottom like my last pair (my walking posture is fine)
>>2857647>>2857656high effort post, thanks
>>2857805>>2857834in your position it will be difficult to find lightweight insulated boots for chasing down illegals.First things i'd consider:1) Wear wool socks. Preferably 80% wool but at least 70%. I use Darn Tough for warranty but they are too restrictive overall. Costco usually sells wool socks during winter. Prob best value.2) Switch out to a wool or heat reflective insoles. Something like this.https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DWSX3TW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3SJX7TTM3PAEZ&th=1&psc=1There's also thicker wool felt insoles from Canada on Amazon but they tend to take too much volume w/o sizing up.3) Make sure you're not overtightening. A lot of your veins are on the top of your foot so over snugging your shoes/boots will cut off some of the circulation. Even too tight of socks will do this. If your boot fit is too tight from socks, lacing, undersizing, pushing your toes in, you may need to go up a size. Sadly some of the suggestions above require going up a half or whole size. At the end of a shift your foot can also swell up half a size. Also as I mentioned with toes, your big toe in particular, if it is pushed in part of its circulation is cut off. Even though I wouldn't use them for work I found toe spreaders helped fix the circulation issues in my foot.4) If your socks wet out from sweat/melted snow, change socks throughout day.5) More $$$ but you can buy heat packs you can put in your shoes.The most popular cold weather boots you'll find in like Alaska are gonna be boots like Mucks that use Neoprene as the liner and above the ankle and polyurethane (looks like rubber) at the foot). Like picrel but you're looking at like 6 pounds per pair.If I tried to make the perfect shoe/boot that was light i'd probably go up an entire size on a wide shoe/trail runner and use wool socks with a loose neoprene outer sock to keep it warm and water proof without relying on dogshit goretex but that would take a lot of experimentation on models/sizing.
>>2857859For rubber boots you have a few materials1) PVC - Cheapest and usually not worth it. Tends to crack.2) Polyurethane - Second most common. Has the problems I mentioned earlier in the thread with hydrolysis. Water gets trapped in the foam pores and with disuse (using pushes water out) it breaks down the foam bond. A lot of people use them during rainy weather (a few times a year) then don't wear them for 6-9 months and they break down the next season for this reason. Well used polyurethane can go 10 years. However you also have manufacturers keeping items in storage for prolonged periods so can be a crapshoot. This option usually is the best IMO for price, durability, availability.--Not as often used materials below--3) You may not believe but most 'rubber' boots are not rubber anymore. Real rubber has a few issues. Exposure to oil/urine and other is hard on it. It's also $$$ and heavy. The pro of rubber is under the right conditions its very long lasting and can be repaired. Last I counted there was like 4 companies left making real rubber boots, and all were based in Europe.4) EVA. This one's my favorite. EVA is the material in crocs. Unlike the materials above, EVA foam is not impacted by external temperatures as much as the other options. Meaning if it's cold outside doesn't mean the material will radiate that to your foot nearly as much. This is why crocs have the cut outs for breathability.EVA is very cheap. It has a few issues. If you leave it in your car on a hot sunny day it can shrink the material. Crocs don't shrink on foot so anything your foot can handle should be fine for the material though. EVA also starts to lose its comfiness after about 500 miles.The reason I don't recommend it as much as PU is because it's hard to find good EVA boot models. I will list this below moreso but the better EVA models are made in Poland and Russia.
>>2857860>InsulationKind of like my earlier post, you need insulation, and for these boots for another reason. None of the above materials breathe. So if your foot is warm, it will sweat, and there is not enough material to wick that sweat so even if it's EVA when your foot is wet it will start to become cold very fast.So while you could get EVA croc boots or Tingley is the chinese ones sold in the US, they will only be good for a short duration.The poland/russian eva boots come with liners and are sized accordingly to fit your foot with the liner so you don't have to play the guessing game as much for fit. Obviously, getting products from Russia right now is a PITA unless you have access to Wild Berries or the Chinese Amazon, Aliexpress.The Polish ones are Camminare and Lemigo. In Canada they sell Lemigo at Bobcaygeon British Shop.The Russian ones are Torvi and Nordman. There used to be a fish shop in the US that sold Nordman but I believe it went out of business. While I heard these are only like $40 USD in Russia, you're probably looking at closer to $100+ for USA with shipping. I bought my last ones from an Eastern European country like Estonia or something.The problem i've found with EVA boots too is they're a softer foam than PU and since the industry is still young for them, the shaping of them isn't the most ergonomic. I've also found they sometimes like to put Rubber inserts/soles on these. The more complexity you add to a cheap design increases the rate of failure. I like the inserts more than the full outsole if you go with one over nothing (just EVA)
>>2857861>PUCan't recommend a ton of brands for these. There's ironically been like 3 brands used by people in Alaska but they keep getting bought out and turned to shit. If I made PU boots i'd make very few models to ship them out on a quick basis to avoid any hydrolysis complaints.For example you can see a well loved by Youtube/Reddit brand, Redback, that uses PU for its midsole is flamed with hate online for hydrolysis issues here:https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/redback-bootsThe companies need to include a tag to remind people to regularly wear PU as well as manufacture date to track issues with supply.If I had to choose one at gunpoint i'd probably go with a PU Lacrosse boot. I really like Sievi boots, but theirs don't use Neoprene/wool/thinsulate or any liner.Most PU boots though don't use a removable liner like I prefer but instead use neoprene. Usually the upper part is only neoprene without the PU, and anything like barb wire will destroy it.Like I mentioned in the materials section though, the best rubber boot products in terms of availability and easy to make work for a season or two without issues is the PU with neoprene. Is what it is even if the companies behind them are scum of the earth (muck, xtratuf, dryshod, lacrosse, bogs).If you want a cheaper PU boot look for Hisea. Some of theres are PVC too.
