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What does /out/ use for communication?
Many just carry a spot emergency beacon or similar, but what about something with more features? Where you can get weather forecasts, am/fm radio, even broadcast in an emergency?
Sure most people just use their phones and some apps now, but that's a big risk
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>>2787545
>What does /out/ use for communication?
My mouth
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PL-330 shortwave radio.
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>>2787547
yea, obviously smartass, clearly its about distance communication
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would it be worth it getting a license? or just sticking to normal off the shelf stuff?
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>>2787581
No, they won't arrest or fine you if you're not dumb
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>>2787582
my understanding is that, tuning in and listening is fine, just as long as you dont broadcast, is this a good rule of thumb?
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Supposedly, if op baofeng is some made in China thing, they send out spurious emissions. The fengs made in u.s. stand up to fcc, and don't do that. So you'd be good just not pressing button.
As for loicense, I just perused the hackaday blog on the $50 ham.
Then I said fuck it, downloaded the ham exam app, do practice quizzes during TV commercial breaks for 2 weeks (which is when the next exam was), grab $15 and get my card punched for a general tech loicense.
No, I don't broadcast.
No, you can't have my callsign.
However, your loicense is good for 10 years, so if you need to talk without government dick in your mouth, no need to worry
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>>2787601
>made in China BAD
>made in amerimutt GOOD
lol okay corn boy
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what are the frequencies that transmit weather alerts?
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>>2787664
https://www.weather.gov/nwr/station_listing
Narrow it down to where your location is
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To use amateur radio frequencies you have to be licensed, however in an emergency involving threat to life you can use said frequencies to request help. There were a number of people who did this shortly after Helene hit NC.

If you going out into the wild I would recommend something like a Garmin InReach over an amateur radio.
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its just fun listening to foreign radio stations and the airport
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>>2787545
Gonna get a radio when I get some more moolah
Hope you'll be out there too
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>>2787595
>the feds will absolutely get you if you fuck around on the wrong frequencies, and it can land you decades in jail in extreme cases.
why are you squawking on random stuff lol, it doesnt matter anyway unless ur hotmicing like a fucktard
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>>2787658
>corn boy
Post hands.
Either your family got sent over to die for Russia, or you're a vindaloo vacuum
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>>2787545
When I was recently splurging on out gear I'll never use I was thinking about getting one of those nifty Garmin radios but a BTECH does the same thing if not better I read. Still, won't use it besides to tinker with radio stations or weather channels while huddling in my hovel. I'm not going to run into based people with radios outdoors, I mean come on.
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I live in Taiwan and my wife and I work at around 30km of each other in Taipei. Is it too far for a radio ? I was really concerned during the last earthquake to not know if my wife was injured and would like to set up a simple communication system now. Could be used in case the mainlanders try to invade too
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>>2787867
30km, should be decently possible, would you have a stationary set up that can reach her hand held or both of you using handhelds?
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>>2787867
really depends on terrain and how many tall buildings there are
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>>2787869
I can have a stationary but it's not ideal in the case where I need to run to the anti nuke shelters I can't really have my metal box with me
>>2787871
The terrain is mostly flat +-200m but buildings are pretty huge and dense, at my work I have easy access to the rooftop
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>>2787890
>not ideal
okay, so both of you would be handheld, got it, the thing is, if it is a normal "walkie talkie" frequency you are both on, everyone with acces to a similar radio will be crowding that frequency.

honestly i think you best bet would be taking a fixed point on the map, and designating that as your "meeting point" best would be the half way mark between you, not "as the crow flies" but a realistic evaluation of how far your could reasonably travel, factoring in injury, take the longest time and assume that that will be the travel time
a good and well rounded first aid kit would be better in securing your loved ones safety then a radio
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>>2787545
Tools to start fires
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>>2787893
yeah but during a first strike attack of our retarded neighbours our meeting point might not be existing anymore or not super easy to access, or maybe one of us is locked in one of the shelter like picrel, we have so many of them it would be very hard to find her
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>>2787900
>our meeting point might not be existing anymore
One island man to another, you always, even in the worst times, need to push your heart to believe in better days.
Like my grandpa said "they can take you house, your field but they can never take your heart"
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>>2787867
>>2787869
>30km, should be decently possible,
Wut?

In my experience you're lucky to get a couple of miles in a city or the suburbs. Less than a mile if it's a heavily built up area.

>>2787867
The range you'll get on something like a Baofeng is very dependent on your terrain and what obstructions are in your way.
If you're both up on the roof of a couple of tower blocks with nothing else in the way then you could do 30km (or well over that), easy. If she's in a concrete emergency shelter then you could be in the building next door and probably not pick up shit. If you've got a repeater station in your area then you both just need to have line of sight to that.

They're still definitely worth buying though. Even the sub-1 mile range you'd get in a heavily built up area is a massive advantage over the option of 'shout loudly and wave your arms'. Being able to communicate from, say, your car parked on the street outside is a lot better than having to search through every individual room of the building. If you get to your pre-planned rendezvous point and find it's collapsed or flooded or otherwise innaccessible, then you'll be able to assume you're both standing around pretty close in roughly the same area but a pair of radios would make finding one another much easier.
My wife and I have a Baofeng in each of our cars, another at home and another at my mom's place for this sort of scenario. And also coordinating the RWDS when the Day of the Rope rolls around, of course.

>>2787893
>a good and well rounded first aid kit would be better in securing your loved ones safety then a radio
A baofeng costs, what, $30? That shouldn't stop you from also affording a good first aid kit
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>>2787912
>That shouldn't stop you
no i am just saying, having a good first aid setup is 1st then comms, if you manage to connect, showing up with no way to help is worse the not showing up at all
put together a good first aid kit
get an, entrenching tool
fresh water
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>>2787916
For sure, a decent first aid kit and the training to use it should be the first prep for pretty much everyone.
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>>2787980
and it is a nice backup, whenever i feel useless, i just have to remember, at least i have advanced first aid training, for adults and children.
and limited firefighting training. so i might be useless 99% of the time, but if shit goes fucked, atleast i know what to do
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>>2788020
>are you sure you wont freeze up?
yes i have been in situations before, thankfully no trafic accidents, no ... erm... protruding bones,
just heart attacks, drunk/drugs, a dumbass glitching out while filling his car, gas splashing everywhere. child eating what i knew where pretty much the most poisonous plant we have here
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>>2788020
>>2788025
fire is way worse, thankfully only needed to help once on a tractor that caught fire, because -insert 80iq mistake here-

just, instinctively going towards fire, is so SO far from what you naturally want to do, kinda hard to explain, but i am sure you can imagine
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CONVOOOOYY
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>>2787545
Nobody is using radios where I am. Narrow valleys where the signal won't carry, laws requiring registration and background checks for any fixed station bcs of nearby military sites, and free maps showing cellphone coverage and state-maintained emergency extraction sites (basically places where the trails are wide enough for an ambulance to get there or there's enough space for a helicopter to land.
When I'm out on my own, I carry a flare gun in addition, but desu, if I end up injured enough that I can't make it the 1-2km to the nearest spot with cellphone reception - generally on top of a hill or mountain - chances are I'll die. Not like anybody will see a flare in the middle of nowwhere and among dense tree cover.
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A friend reprogrammed mine, set me up with the same frequency he's on, how to hook up FM.
Brother I am almost 30, how the fuck did I just now, discover radio
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FRS/GMRS is free and no one is ever going to scrutinize your wattage/equipment so don't bother giving money to the government for a loicense to dick around in the woods with some Chinese shitbox
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>>2787545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ2pur_ucKE
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>>2788536
if you are in your late 20s you grew up in a world where cellular devices largely replaced radio
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>>2789120
im 30 in 3 months, dont think that counts as "late 20s" brother it was required to write cursive when i was in school, the internet was new, Y2K was a thing, war in the middle east and MySpace
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>>2789123
>im 29, dont think that counts as "late 20s"
The iPhone debuted when you were in middle school. Texting had long replaced walkie talkies for normie kid applications by then. Unless you had the right brand of /g/ or /out/ autism you weren't likely to find your way into the radio hobby space.
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>>2789111
What about in a SHTF situation?
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>>2789412
Your regional warlord will absolutely scrutinize your wattage/equipment.
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>>2787545
I'm in the process of making a solar charged LoRa P2P messaging system. I plan on installing three, one at my house, one at my graparents house and one at my aunts house.
I live on a hill so I can expect to get pretty great range out of them. I can handle the electronics and programming but I am a dunce at mechanical design so I'm a bit worried about water ingress. Guess I'll have to figure it out as I go
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>>2787890
There are probably radio repeaters all over the city, so you could easily contact her via those as long as at least one of them still has electricity. Even on top of a tall building would probably work directly if you have line of sight.

>>2787595
If you don't have a license, you can speak with a baofeng on the walkie talkie (FRS) frequencies. It's not legal technically to use baofengs for this because they're not approved for use on those freqs, but if you're not fantastically retarded and reckless and turn your wattage down a bit there's basically zero chance of getting in trouble for it.
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>>2787545
>>2787545
A red lollipop, the color signal will be picked up by future generations of technology, and will be more appealing when they view my consumption than ordinary red signals.
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if it doesn't say "Motorola Solutions", "EFJohnson", "Kenwood", or "Harris" on it, it's probably trash and you should feel bad.
I'll give a pass on BK and Icom.
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Why don't more people just put a backup phone/ battery in a hard case with a signal booster?

Mobile range extends a long way these days, I believe must mobile pick up satellite GPS even if outside mobile range, users are familiar with them, and I believe search and rescue can comb for mobile distress signals from helicopter.

Is there a specific procedure for use of a domestic mobile phone as a distress beacon if outside mobile range?
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>>2789412
Do you actually intend to set up an entire repeater network and know the autism that goes into HF? If not, its better to just do GMRS.

The only exception is if you want to get into encrypted stuff which is illegal, thats where more advanced handhelds would benefit you.



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