>>2777100
post the full webm pls

posting to remind you all that using a gun to hunt is cheating

>>2777221
Thats why I use strychnine

>>2777221
Found the no hunt urbanite

>every hunting spot is filled with Haitians

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>>2777103
slightly cut down to fit in 4chan's 4 meg limit

>>2777221
No, buying your meat at a grocery store is cheating, shut-in.

>>2777315
sorry but that's horrifying. I get the whole hunting thing but we don't do that kind of gore on /out/

I want to hunt white tails eventually. I want to learn how to stalk deer and want to practice with photography (since I think they’re beautiful animals anyway).
Do I just go to my nearest area where hunting is allowed and practice stalking with my camera? I want to hunt by stalking because a blind or stand just seems unfair and too easy. I’ve been going outdoors for long enough to have seen many deer and not spooked them.
What time of day is best? Morning? I know about scent and thermals on the mountains.
Do I need to worry about going to places that are really small/close to roads? I live in CT and there is no good big nature here.

>>2777677
Can you even use a rifle in connecticut? In maryland where I used to live they only allowed shotguns, archery, or muzzleloaders because it is so overpopulated they worry about a rifle hitting somebody 100yrds away where the next home is. That whole i95 corridor is an overpopulated nightmare.

>>2777685
>>2777685
Not sure desu but I know it takes about two months to be approved for a handgun. The hunting areas are tiny. Very small state parks and the like. I have a job where it’s pretty tough to take a weekend trip too so no western MA, VT or NH either…

>>2777677
>What time of day is best?
sunrise and sunset. that's when they tend to move

>>2777221
you've only reminded everyone that you are an insufferable retard. I can name 3 good reasons to hunt with a gun. pigs, varmits and birds. neck yourself

>>2777685
Maryland allows straight wall cartridge now for the past few years. It was never shotgun only for the whole state only certain countries.

looking to get into deer hunting in california, any recs on rifles? everyone has told me the ruger predator 2 in .308 but it's sold out literally everywhere

>>2777315
This is wholesome af.

>>2777801
Most modern hunting rifles are gtg anon. 208 is great, but there are lots of great deer cartridges, .243, .270, 30-06. It depends on where and how you want to hunt, as well as what other hunting you might want to do, etc. Also how good of a marksman are you and to what range are you comfortable taking a clean shot on a deer.

>>2777824
could you give me a short list of like 3-5 to look into? i live in santa cruz CA which has literally one gun shop with no range or any in-stock guns or ammo (the second one is invite-appointment only and he doesnt sell to people he doesnt know + will only sell guns he personally likes), so i have to pre-plan all gun and ammo purchases and do a bulk FFL purchase essentially sight unseen

>>2777801
If you have a not-shit FFL that won't make you suck their dick to get a gun transferred you bought online (which seems to be impossible over in CA; I pay average $20 in not-CA):
https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/736676469314

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>>2777352
>>2777861
not sure if retarded or just shitposting

>>2777950
killing deer is being good to them. would you rather they have an encounter with mr. bear, mr. cwd or mr. overpopulation?

Been out 10 or so times so far and still no animal carcass to show for it. Sad!

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>>2777980
we can't all be successful murderers
last year my neighbor had an entire flock of canada geese that he wanted me to shoot, but I didn't have the time. this year I do have the time but there are no geese

Well, not a deer in sight opening weekend here in Cali Zone C. I'll try again in two weeks.

>>2778010
>hunt in ways that risk harming the game rather than killing it
you're not a bright one, are you?

>>2778012
he's a troll, stop feeding him!

>>2777890
the only retard here is you for not being able to detect sarcasm and shitposting

>>2777677
tree stands are not any easier than spot and stalk, you still have to know where the deer go before a tree stand is useful. setting up randomly in the woods wont bring deer to you, you have to set up where they travel, its not that simple.

also spot and stalk as a means for hunting whitetail, at least in heavily wooded states is pretty much never going to happen unless you hunt with a gun, which i wont say is cheating, but it is much easier than bowhunting, and most *real* whitetail enthusiasts are going to be bowhunters.

>>2778019
Ok fag. Most ppl don't bow hunt for the love of bow hunting over gun hunting. It's bc in most places bow season is like 6 months long whereas gun season might be a couple days. I guarantee your dumbass if they allow gun hunting for the entirety of the bow season ppl will ditch their bows en masse.

>>2778031
actual bow hunters don't go around saying
>and most *real* whitetail enthusiasts are going to be bowhunters.

most bow hunters that hunt strictly deer spend more time in the range or doing 3d all year than actual hunting

>>2778036
and most bow hunters dont give two shits if you dont bow hunt.
The local proshop near me is usually dead.
last time i was in there there were only two people using the indoor range and their selection if long bows was lack luster

>inb4 i own x amount of bows

if they're compound and you're talking that kind of shit you may as well just take estrogen.

>>2778031
some states allow bow hunting year round depending on the game
in texas you can hunt hogs year round with recurves

>>2778012
>let me just vaporize this thing instantly and kill the wild animals father and mother. Then post on Instagram with there heads like a barbarian.

I seen about enough of you poachers this past month you will all surely burn in eternal hell. Sick fucks. Clean up your casings btw you littering degenerates

>>2778047
deers and hogs are a fast breeding spieces.
I remember seeing a map of hogs, most of them move in a big spread out horde. If it wasn't for hunters we'd easily be outnumbered by them

>>2778048
Why did you delete your post faggot?
Are you a fag? are you gay?

>>2778044
Here in California you can hunt hogs all year with a rifle. Hogs are invasive, damage both agricultural and residential land and breed multiple times a year. Many states have open season on them all year long.

>>2777826
Get an r700 in 30-06

>>2777883
thanks for the link man
>$20
the only gun store in the county charges $125 lmao jesus christ man fucking kill me now
bought a sig p365 today and all together it was over $1k

>>2778082
Holy fug even Cabelas only charges $35 if you send something into them. I refuse to pay anything above that.

>>2778083
i mean when you're the only store in the entire county of ~275,000 people you can charge what you want i guess

>>2778082
You don't have a Sportsman's Warehouse near you? They usually have a gun section and you can do ffl to ffl through them for less than that.

>>2778090
closest one is 1hr 59min away
i'm not joking when i say that santa cruz has a single gun shop, Markleys, and then one random dickhead that requires you to interview with him via email before you are allowed to schedule an appointment to come in and look at the random guns that he is selling during work hours only

>>2777826
>santa cruz CA
Google maps says there are dozens of gun shops in your area.

>>2778092
there is markleys and there is perry's (appointment only guy)
for some reason the random marine supply stores are flagged as gun stores, otherwise you have to drive over the mountain and into the bay area which takes an hour and a half because somebody always crashes and dies on I-17 basically every single day

>>2778092
There's a Big5 within 20 minutes of Markleys.

>>2778096
the capitola big 5 doesnt handle firearms anymore
my brother, i live here, i know the stores

>>2778097
What about Monterey? How far is that? Rag Firearms, Turner's outdoorsman, Del Valle Gunsmithing/831 FFL services, JC Firearms.

>>2778099
yeah it's not the worst, i mean there are gun stores "nearby" if one wanted to go and spend an hour or two in traffic, i just normally go during work so markleys is the only one that fits the bill

>>2778084
how tf is there only one fucking store, anon you live in hell and there's not even an ffl in my county.

>>2778102
santa cruz is the most expensive county in california because it's just south of the bay area and has beautiful beaches
not a huge market for guns because it's just a bunch of bay area tech people that eschew violence and hunting and all things fun

Any fellow Alaskafags on here? Between work and young kids, my only window to hunt this year is Thanksgiving weekend. My options seem sparse in the southcentral area (coyote/wolf predator hunting, maybe mule deer if I go far east enough). Black bears are in season at that time, but deep in hibernation I'm sure. Anyone have tips/suggestions, or should I just forget hunting that weekend?

>>2778107
you live in the greatest state to hunt in the union anon. If you let some bullshit fuck you like that anon you're an irredeemable piece of fucking shit.

>>2778110
Great thanks

best way to catch stray cats?

>>2778131
psspsssspspspsp

it's amazing how yankee hunters are somehow more cucked than Scandinavian ones
>have to use bows most of the year
>can only use guns for a short period
>during the start of gun season you're limited to black powder guns for some reason
>even when you're allowed to use smokeless powder, in some states you can only use straight walled cartridges
>IL only allows a single cartridge in the gun
>>2778131
rig a trap with lasagner

>>2778082
Leave your shit state my man

>>2778151
You finally understand america is like 50 different fucking countries. Laws vary widely when it comes to guns and hunting.

>>2777221
>Webm of retard trying to hunt with a bow just to get mauled by a bear

>>2778371
My state legalized permitless open carry while bow hunting in bear areas

>>2777677
Hello fellow CTfag
>>2777685
>Can you even use a rifle in connecticut?
No you cannot - at least not on state land. You can use a rifle if you own land or have permission from someone who owns land - IF it's at least 10 contiguous acres. Stupid, I know
>>2777687
>I know it takes about two months to be approved for a handgun
Believe it or not, that's better than it used to be. But you still can't hunt with a handgun unless private property as I mentioned with the rifle, and it's revolver only. That and you can hunt small game on state land but only with rimfire. And no suppressors for anything. Grim.

>>2778018
kek he's never been to wsg

>>2778523
There's pretty much no way that they wouldn't be a good time.

>>2778523
I teach the youngins the ropes

>>2778527
in what way?

>>2778599
haha wouldn't mind shooting some fat ropes on that phat ass amirite

>>2778778
yes the girl has an alluring behind

>>2778523
im with nonny, they seem fun

>>2778523
well atleast their black skin makes up for better camouflage than white skin (in that climate ofc)

Who else /.243/ here?

STOP FEEDING THE FUCKING TROLLS!!! Where the fuck are the jannies!?

>>2778523
>diganobs

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>>2777221
no one cares fag

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you guys keep the skins?

>>2779041
Yes. Kinda becoming a problem, kek. Once I get some taxidermy forms and can clone those forms and make modifications to change up the pose, though, I think I'll have a lot less random hides hanging around and more of a "taxidemy squirrels posed to be climbing and sitting on everything" problem. I've also tanned a hide or two and used them on things I never really ended up using. Not bad leather; not sure how the fur would really hold up to rubbing and abrasion though. There's some pretty warm fur on Winter squirrels.

>>2777987
I just spent 5 days in d7, best I saw was a small spike, hiking 5-6 miles off trail each day. Hardly any does even.

>>2779266
>5 miles off trail
Brutal pack out with potential for meat loss. Why go so far when you can find some within a mile off the road? I shot my mule deer buck half a mile from a road here in WY. It was a draw unit but I went elk hunting in a general otc forest unit and saw bucks and does not even a mile off the roads.

brought some of last year's moose inner thigh to a dinner, especially so a yankee visitor could try. he was mighty pleased with it

>>2779268
Because it was opening weekend and the trails were crawling with jeeps and atvs. I never heard a single shot other than some rapid fire from a handgun, and sound carries up where I was.

>>2779268
This is what I never understood about ppl who advocate going in super deep. They probably do the gutless method and take only the backstraps and the hind quarters. Otherwise it's at least an all day affair to get it out in two trips, which assuming at 5 miles in would mean a 15 mile hike. Now add off trail and possibly difficult terrain? Shit don't add up.

>>2779328
Gotta take the whole deer. The plan was to gut it out and drag to the nearest trail, then meet up with one of my buddies to haul it back to camp.

>>2779266
That's rough! I'm on private property where I'm hunting in C zone(brother in law's property 60 acres). I've got trail cameras and a blind set up on the property, I'm still trying to find a better spot for the blind though. The property is on two sides of a couple hills with a creek running through it. So I don't have to walk far, but it's all up and down hill. And it's covered in mixed oak and conifer, so spot and stalk isn't really an option and the longest shot I will likely be taking is under 75yards. My blind(tidewe see through ground blind) Is on the flattest spot I could find, looking over one of the fields. There are tons of deer up there most of the year and they walk right by my sister's house. So they're not that spooky. But they still tend to disappear this time of year. I'll be going back up at least two more times before the close of the season. This is my second season up there. I'm hunting down in the valley, near the creek. I'm planning on dragging it back up the hill to my camp with my brother in law's rhino atv.

>>2779473
Previous years I'd see 20 or more does and fawns each day, this year the most I saw was 4 on Tuesday. I have a Huntmaster see thru blind but never bothered to set it up. I had a problem with my camper, so ended my trip early, but if all goes well I'll be back there in a few weeks.

>FL panhandle
>going duck hunting for first time this year
>going with buddy who has never hunted
>schooled up on laws/regulations
>scouting a few spots in one area
>swampy salt marsh
>stirred up a couple coots last time we went out
>haven't seen ducks yet
Should ducks be at the places we're checking out right now? Should we be looking for ducks right now to hunt in November?

Feral dog hunting? My families ranch has a feral dog problem. we've seen them a couple times, and caught them on game cams too. the pack was like 8 last time we saw them but im sure they are breeding.
I dont want to leave out poison like Xylitol because we have our dogs, and I dont know what else it is lethal too outside of canines.
Traps are a no for the same reasons, plus we have cattle that might step in them.
Would a dog bark call potentially bring them in like coyote calls work on coyotes? Id prefer to just shoot them, but they have been very elusive.

I already checked the ATF website for tips, they only had them for killing domestic dog.

>>2777100
My dad and his crew just got a moose today. My stepmom sent me a pic, dad and my lil bro posing with it. A spike fork moose. Very proud of them

>>2779284
haha hell yeah! After he was done, did you grease up each other's assholes and fuck one another?

>>2779732
God damn I truly did not think anyone could muster this level of asshurt

>>2779736
Just some banter, lad

>>2779726
moose meat is delicious. congrats.

>>2779726
say congrats to your father from anon

>>2779749
Oy vey Rabbi.

>>2779328
Deep bush hunts are basically late season only.

Weekend elk hunting worth it if I'm like 2-3 hours away? Also, I've only ever bow hunted elk (4 years) and never rifle hunted and want some meat in the freezer. Is the strategy typically the same as archery? Average shot distance I should practice if hunting thick timber? And is a bipod needed or will my pack or a tree or log suffice?

>>2779816
elk look about the same size as moose so I'll say the same as if it were moose:
Do you know that there's game in the area you plan to hunt? Our moose hunt this year was very productive even just during the first weekend. We use dogs.
Not sure what distance archery is done at. For big game with a suitable cartridge (6.5x55, .308 or even 9.3x57) then depending on how much it moves up to 300 meters shouldn't be a problem. 80 meters is the "nominal" distance for moose (the distance used for moose training at shooting ranges)
>thick timber
if there's shit in the way you'll want a heavier caliber such as 9.3
>And is a bipod needed or will my pack or a tree or log suffice?
entirely depends on your stance and on the situation. lots of people here in Scandinavia use a shooting stick. you can get adjustable ones. or just a solid stick and learn to grasp it properly and rest the gun on your hand. lots of possibilities
we use moose pullers to get the animals out of the forest. I hear yanks quarter them in the field. seems like a lot of work

>>2779822
oh and we had guest hunters that come from 1-2 hours away. only during the first weekend though

>>2779822
Planning on using a remington 700 in 30-06. Have it sighted in to 100 yards. Should I practice shooting free hand or prone or sitting? Hunting thick timber but there are some open meadows. I don't really plan on shooting greater than 200 yds since I'm not proficient yet. Idk, all I've ever done is bow hunting but want some meat so open to the idea of going on a weekend rifle hunt. Won't leave far from the road either due to packing out solo. Colder temps this month should help with meat care than archery season.

>>2777826
>the second one is invite-appointment only and he doesnt sell to people he doesnt know + will only sell guns he personally likes

why are boomers like this

>>2779828
>Should I practice shooting free hand or prone or sitting?
yes
>I don't really plan on shooting greater than 200 yds since I'm not proficient yet
the area to hit on a moose is 20 MOA. not sure how much smaller wapiti are but they can't be smaller than half the size, so call that 10 MOA. the drop on my 6.5x55 is 2.5 MOA/100 meter so 200 meter would still be largely insignificant. it's really sideways motion of your target that is an issue. here in Sweden we train that regularly because it's mandatory to be able to hit a moose target (2 shots stationary + 2 shots moving target) every year
anyway up to 200 meters should be fine depending on movement

>>2779688
It’s a waste of time to be scouting now unless you’re trying to get familiar with places you’ve never been before. Go out the week prior to the season opening. I go to the same spot on opening day each year and wait until the day before season to scout it.

Be real with me anons. 30s, never hunted, got curious and got my license for kicks / to get outdoors but I don’t own a gun or want to make a big investment while I figure out if this is even for me. How ridiculous am I going to look going around a state park in blaze with a Walmart air gun?

>>2779892
You won't run into many people if you're hunting the right way. And you're going to get scared shit less going off trail your first time. Basically you're worrying about the wrong things. And hunting isn't easy or else everyone would be doing it.

>>2779892
>Walmart air gun
what are you planning on hunting? sqrls?

>>2779932
Pretty much. I’d prefer rabbit because I’d rather eat them than squirrel but I figured I’d start with those

>>2779934
not sure if a regular air gun is enough to kill rabbit ethically. a .22 is more appropriate

how far into the woods do i need to be to find grouse on logging roads?

>>2779964
about three fiddy

>>2779964
Not far. I usually find them within a couple hundred yards off the roads in National Forests. But they’re scattered so you may have to burn some boot leather to find them.

>>2779946
Its all about calibers Anon. My .25 Caliber airgun can bag yotes or rabbits pretty clean. Im not sure about .177 for squirrel, but .20 or .22 would do the job fine.

>>2779999
it's about energy and momentum . a PCP rifle can be suitable. a regular break action 10 Joule rifle not so much

>>2779974
i meant like distance from highway/hikers. ive been to olympic nf for the past couple weekends but havent found anything, im thinking its cus its too busy where i am

>>2780002
Ftlbs of energy. A break action airgun in .25 can 100% take down rabbits

>>2780005
I'm not really sure what signs you should look for when hunting grouse. All I know is I run in the damn things a few times a week hunting big game in forests. Always scare the shit out of me when I nearly step on them and they flap their wings loudly. I find them everywhere. Find water sources and search nearby and you should find them. A couple hundred yards from roads and trails should suffice.

>>2780019
>retard units
>confusing energy and momentum

>>2779892
Just buy a 10/22. The 10 pumps can get it done but being a noguns and having never shot before you aren't going to want to become a crackshot and a hunter all at once; the lack of power on a 10 pump and long time to reload and pump leaves a lot to be desired (trust me I've done it!). Once you get into nice break barrel territory, you start getting into real gun prices so you might as well just get a 22 and see how much you like shooting as well. Grab a 10/22, get some 1200fps hollowpoint 22LR at Walmart (CCI is pricey but very nice), and go to a local range and start learning to shoot. A scope would help you a lot; hunting squirrels and rabbits with irons is hard as a newbie, not easy when you're experienced unless you only shoot irons, and hard on you if you have sight that needs any correction (glasses/contacts) especially. There should be some 10/22s that come with scopes. If not, I recommend getting a scope and bringing it either to a gunsmith to install it so they do it right and get it level in the rings or IIRC Cabelas/Bass Pro might do that as well but you'd have to ask if you have one local. It sounds silly but trust me, as a newb I had canted scopes and screws loosening, you name it. Buy a Bushnell at the very least, avoid Barska. You should be all in, clothes, gun, ammo, loicense, hunter's safety, and scope, for about $500. I can't help you find local FFLs easily but Cabelas will accept guns shipped in and transfer them for about $35. Or buy a 10/22 straight from them.
>$250 carbine model with wood stock: https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/736676011032
>$240 carbine model with plastic stock: https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/736676011513 <---This one goes on sale for about $180-200 around holidays, black friday
>$236 carbine model with rail pre-installed and nice iron sights: https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/736676311910 or https://gun.deals/product/ruger-1022-collectors-series-22-lr-1850-barrel-10-rnd-22993

>>2779892
It's not going to be easy to learn the "instinct" to know where animals should be, learn to see the deer trails through the leaves, learn the signs of squirrels (pieces of nut shells scattered), learn how to walk quietly, learn how to hide, learn how to sneak up, etc. but you can do it. I did it a lot later in life than most, albeit younger than you. I'm not far behind however, and I still really only know how to hunt squirrels! That isn't really a bad thing, though; they cook up like chicken and once you start learning you bring enough home to be well worth the effort. There will be days you wonder WTF you're doing and wonder about your ability but that's life. I also recommend taking a lot of time at the range and figuring out how well you can shoot. If you find a good range you can stand or get support leaning against a post, say under a covered shooting lane to simulate getting support by putting your offhand against a tree, you will quickly learn how well you can shoot in realistic conditions. You'll also learn just how much adrenaline will suddenly flow when you see that first squirrel. And second, and third, and fourth. And just how hard it is to control your nerves and shakes to get a good shot. It's good fun and rewarding. If nothing else you get to see a lot of nature which is great on its own.

I recommend hollowpoint 22 as it's what I use. Seems to do the job well. Finding a bulk brand that works for you is a lot nicer since CCI is a little pricey (~$12-13/100rds vs $2-4/50rds of most other brands when bought in 250-500rd boxes) but if that's what works for you and you can afford shooting it at the range as plinking ammo, more power to you.

>>2780081
NTA.... I like CCI Standard velocity. I can get them for 50/500. I also like CCI mini mags and stingers, but they're pricy 18/100. I can get Rem Golden (box or bucket) and thunder cheaper, but they're not as consistent in my experience. Avoid Federal Automatch at all costs!! They are garbage! All of the Federal bulk 22lr I've shot has been inconsistent AF and have given me feed/cycle issues. Winchester wildcats are also total garbage. Aguila's are pretty good and cheap $4/50. My only complaint is they're a lot dirtier than CCI.

>>2780087
Personally I have guns set up for both super and subs. Right now I use supers. I recommend supers (~1200fps) to anon largely because of availability. I don't want to tell him "go ahead, get some subsonic ammo" only for anon to realize in his area availability for his now preferred ammo goes to shit once October is over and people start realizing they "need" 7 500rd bulk boxes of x brand 22lr, 5 of the 35 boxes of y brand .223, 3 boxes of z brand .30-06, etc. People just clear the shelves here; subsonics tend to have less availability and disappear or availability slows to a trickle in the Fall. And combine that with if anon is in the US? It's elections too, so even worse availability and prices. If anon is in CA, good luck getting lead free 22LR as well (thank god I don't have to deal with it).
>CCI SV
Prices can still be pretty good, especially if you buy online (see: ammoseek) rather than your local chain gun store.
>CCI Mini mag/Stinger
I'm not crazy with recommending Stingers or other super fast ammo; not sure if Stingers fall into modern "hypervelocity" speeds (~1350fps+?) but I've seen a lot of people report bad accuracy @ 50yds with hypervelocity ammo. Depends on the gun, sure, but again, price and availability are also a factor.
>Rem
I haven't shot a lot of Remington. Weirdly never as common as Federal, CCI, or Blazer. Even Aguila is more common. I used to see the buckets years ago at Dicks but the prices on those in person often don't make sense, at least at Cabelas. Often it's more expensive per rd than the 50rd boxes of Remington lol.
>Federal
Weirdly I used to have good luck with it but I started noticing weird accuracy, though I should try their ammo again before shit talking too much. It had a tendency to stovepipe one of my vintage 22s after a while oddly enough and then it started doing the same with my Ruger MK I and 10.22,
>Aguila
Filthy, smelly, but I love it. Accurate enough for me, decent reliability, and cheap/available.

>>2780089
>If anon is in CA, good luck getting lead free 22LR as well
This is why I don't do any hunting with my 22s. They're all range toys because all of the lead free 22lr I've shot has been expensive AF and inaccurate AF.

I have a brick of CCI subs. I bought it to try it out for 50y bench rest comp shooting. It's a bit more than the SV 65/500 and I didn't find it to be any more or less accurate. It was neat being able to see the bullet traveling through the air through my scope. It's a lot more of an arc than you'd think. It's almost like they're being lobbed in. And if the wind picked up, accuracy went way down. I can't own a can, because commiefornia. So I was more interested in the difference in BC due to their not breaking the sound barrier. And for that, I didn't see any benefit. Certainly not an additional $15/500 worth.

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>>2780087
>stingers
the 10/22 manual explicitly warns against stingers, at least with some models. guess they should work in a takedown?

>>2780092
Hmmm.... I haven't seen that warning in any of my 22s. I have a 10/22 compact and a Savage mkii. The compact is the base 10/22 receiver and barrel in the all american's modular stock. It also came with fiber optic iron sights, but I replaced them with tech sights ts00 aperture sights. I also bought a BX trigger for it(love it!!). My savage mkii is a bolt action. I replaced the stock with a boyd's at-1. Both of them have no problem shooting or cycling stingers. But I don't shoot them that often because they're almost twice the price of SVs.

>>2780096
page 20 of the manual: https://robertsbushcraft.com/images/ruger-1022/ruger-1022-user-manual.pdf

>>2780100
It looks like it's specific to certain models with tighter tolerances like match grade 22s. I just read a similar warning that they have for the target 10/22, for savage mkiis with match chambers. I just tested them in my 22s and they have plenty of head space.

>>2780091
>This is why I don't do any hunting with my 22s.
>I can't own a can, because commiefornia.
That sucks anon; I specifically got a silencer for my 10/22 because it made it easier and safer to hunt, no ear pro required. Subs can get you to about the same volume as shooting supersonic through a silencer, maybe a hair louder. And yeah the lead free stuff is JUNK. I have never seen a happy review of that stuff with pics/video to back it up lol. Norma especially, the Ecospeed with the raccoon on the box. Holy shit you'd be lucky to hit the raccoon's lungs at all lol. You might want to check out 21 Sharp; you're pretty much one of the one in five hundred thousand that would actually need it lol. Simple barrel swap if everything goes Winchester's way, supposedly lead free available, solid copper rounds IIRC. We'll see if it has any market hold or if it dies and no one knows what the fuck it is in a year. The lead free requirements of CA on top of ammo transfers sound like a nightmare; prices on hunting ammo are bad enough here at over a dollar a round for .223. The whole state sounds like a nightmare lol.

>>2780092
That specifically says target or (weirdly) tactical. Tighter chambers in the fancy target guns. Not something you'd buy to shoot cheap ammo out of anyways; the cheap models have bigger chambers as they feed more reliably with various ammo and in dirtier conditions. IIRC some also recommend not shooting Stingers out of older 10/22s again due to chamber dimensions at the time but who knows. Your regular carbine, sporter, etc. should have a normal chamber size and not something super tight. I wonder why tactical models are included there unless there's a Tactical target or something.

>>2779892
How poor are you? You can buy a 22lr rifle for easily under 200 bucks.

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>>2777315
How do you get past seeing these animals as cute and actually kill them? Is it something you have to start young? Was it hard initally?

I respect hunters and have wanted to do it for years, but the thought of shooting a derpy little deer is so depressing. Not to mention chopping it apart

>>2780246
This is a symptom of living a life so removed from a basic part of humanity that arguably one of the most natural things to do as part of your mere existence seems strange and unpalettable

>>2780249
True I am a suburban pussy, is it too late for me?

I've fished dozens of times and didn't really give a fuck

>>2780253
If you want to just do it. You'll probably fuck something up but who cares just learn from it and move on.

>>2780246
I haven't killed anything yet, but this is the feeling everyone has that works with meat in some capacity. even that oaf Jeremy Clarkson was sad to see his silly animals go to slaughter (Clarkson's Farm)
hunters care about the game probably the most of all, and in some places will even put out food for them if winters are harsh, and enjoy checking on them with camera traps off-season. but we also kill and eat them. once the animal is down it's no longer an individual. it's food. doubly so when you get the guts out, skin it and remove the head

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Black bear hunt this weekend. New rifle, clothes, same ol’ boots and knife. first time going after one, just gonna still hunt like I do deer. Bringing a predator call because why not.

>>2780425
nice fit, you opinel looks weird and why the axe?

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>>2780426
The axe is handy for quartering, and making a drag rack. The opinel is their “garlic and chestnut knife.” I affectionately refer to it as my “critter unzipper.”

>>2780428
sweet, i thought it would be that model, but just wanted to see if it was something you modified, you should look at the opinel "Effilé" no8 its also great for small game and fish

i just assumed you weren't going to keep the meat because you were predator hunting, i hear mixed things about bear meat, never had it myself but it is definitely on my list

good luck hunting friend

>>2780531
pigger

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>>2780425
>filson hat
(see pic). I only own a Filson because someone sold it to me for like $3-5. Freakin' $95 hat; didn't even realize until I looked it up a couple days later.

>>2780428
Shit now I gotta buy another knife lol. Trying to get away from using so many scalpel blades, especially for squirrels. Goes noticeably duller when you get to the head, even if you pull most of the skin away. You can get about 2-2.5 squirrels out of it before it starts getting miserable though; maybe I'll just start buying bulk cheap blades. What animals have you used the Opinel on?

>>2780542
Are you honing your blades? or just tossing them when they get "dull"? It sounds to me like you're wasting perfectly good blades that just need a hone.

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>>2777315
DELET

>>2780604
IIRC I was trying to hone the scalpel blades but they weren't really cooperating, using a kitchen knife honing rod and all. You're not really supposed to hone them in the first place lol. You could but it'd take a gentle touch, I'm sure. Or a specialized tool much like the one they used to sell for safety razor blades that would hone them and straighten out your edge. But really I have to wonder with an edge that thin if they're not just actually wearing out. They're not meant for a lot of cutting and they're not super expensive ones either. If I bought some from a hunting store or something I'm sure I'd get better blade quality.

>>2780246
I haven't done it yet, but the way I see it everything has it's place. You just need to, I guess, indoctrinate yourself into the meaning you want to put into an animal.
For me, it's a chain like the following:
I'd kill for my family
I'd try to prevent the deaths of other humans
I would be sad if one of my cats or dogs died
I'll prevent contact with wild animals that are beneficial in my area for the sake of not harming them
I'll try not to kill animals too small to eat
I'll kill deer if I have a good way to process and store the meat
I'd be sad if I didn't kill and eat my chickens and pigs, since their lives would be in vain otherwise
I'd kill pests/vermin for the sake of reducing their numbers and protecting resources for all animals listed above
I need to kill invasive predators since they only do harm

This can pretty much be anyone's dogma. Once you justify the above, it'd hard to imagine any other order.

>>2777315
There's a predator nearby

>>2777890
Retard

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Welp, looks like we're (Floridians) are gonna get hammered again. What preps are you taking to secure your house?

>>2780643
Don't use a kitchen honing rod, use a strop. Just a nice thick piece of leather with some stropping compound rubbed in. It'll hone those edges right up. Just to make sure we're on the same page, we're talking those outdoor edge style knives not actual scalpels?

>>2780684
Why are you asking this in a hunting thread?

>>2780708
How didn't I think of that? Anon you have a point; I may just have to grab some leather. Might even have some.

How do you guys keep up through failure? I’ve been hunting for six years now and shooting for eight and I’ve never bagged a deer. I’ve missed a dozen shots. I missed two today on my opener on two different deer. I’ve never tried so fucking hard for something and come away with so many failures. Every time the opportunity comes I shake and I choke. I prayed last night for a chance, dreamt I was in a church, and blew not one but two chances. Should I kms or burn my bow at this point? Should I take up sewing?

>>2781090
I've bow hunted elk for 4 years including this year. Shot an elk last year. Directly behind front shoulder quartering to. Little blood. Ended up losing it after tracking and looking for it for 3 days. It was gut wrenching having no idea if it lived or died. The previous 3 years of failure were huge successes compared to losing that elk. I was so depressed I almost quit hunting. This year I went on my first mule deer bow hunt and got a nice 4x4 buck.

My failures are different from yours. I get a little shaky but when I have my pins on my target I get into some sort of flow state where I no longer am thinking or nervous. But yeah I hear from a lot of guys they get buck fever or a mental block especially after losing so many animals from bad shots they've taken in the past. I haven't had many opportunities at shots so when I do get one I'm pretty focused on executing the shot.

My advice would be to spend more time at the range and train in a way to replicate what it's like in the field. For example, I've sprinted to the target and back to simulate taking shots with elevated heart rate. I also train year round lifting weights, cycling, running, rucking and eating healthy which I think also helps both mental and physical performance. I practice SR before and during my hunts and have been doing rituals as well.

>>2781090
Another thing I would do is reflect on the shots you are taking and be honest about them. Maybe exercise more patience and employ more strategy than just run n gun and shooting at the first opportunity. Hunting is a mind game that requires strategy for success. I recommend reading The Book of 5 Rings. Maybe studying and playing chess. And doing things that require you to go outside your comfort zone to strengthen your mind.

>>2781090
How often do you go to the range? A little practice goes a long way

>>2779473
>>2779508
I'm heading back out to C3 on Wednesday. I'll be up there through Saturday. I'm hoping the cooler weather coming in will get them moving a bit more.

My last, not hunting, trip up there, I saw several groups of Does and fawns, but no bucks. Fingers crossed my luck changes....and not for the worst!

>>2781090
spend less time in church, more time at the range

>>2781121
Sorry for your lost elk, what’s SR? I’ve checked out some different drills and I’m going to try a few of them out today. Kneeling shots, one legged shots, burpees between ends, etc. chess is a good idea. I think I’m hindsight I could have waited a little longer for a better angle but I was losing the light.
>>2781126
Twice a week an hour and a half each time
>>2781151
I don’t go to church, I have my own beliefs and I usually don’t invoke them which makes this loss extra shit imo

>>2781155
what kind of shots are you taking that you're missing? distances, whether the game is moving, what optics you're using etc

>>2781157
I shoot recurve, I use an SRF sight bracket, I’ve got a plunger and an elevated spring rest, the bucks were not moving at the time of shots, the first shot was at 35 yards on a -30 degree angle (which probably played a roll in my lack of expansion near release, shot went low). Second was a full broadside at forty yards but the buck was wary and a both jumped the string and shot placement went right. About a -20 degree angle in that one. Not much wind but there may have been some brush that played a factor in the first miss. The topography gets bulldozed around where I sit so year after year there are subtle variations in where the game like to go and leave to. I hadn’t anticipated them coming from the angle they did so I was forced to reposition and definitely had a compromise in my stance. It’s why I think the one legged drills might help

>>2781155
>what's SR
Semen retention. Great for manifesting.

Here's what you do. Retain for 15-30 days preferably before your hunt. Right before your hunt burn some frankincense (I recommend resin with charcoal) and purify your bow, arrows, broadheads with the intent of getting rid of all negative energy associated with it. This purifying ritual will help you get over your mental block by wiping the slate clean.

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>in-laws have 840 acres of private pasture that I have sole access to for hunting

>>2781181
Fuck it I’ll try anything at this point

>>2781143
Good luck. I can't get out this weekend, but hopefully next weekend I can take couple extra days

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Got in some grouse blasting, and just today almost got a shot at a nice big mule buck, hope everyone is having a good time out there!

>>2781189
>>2781181
Just kidding, cucking myself and making all my shit stink sounds like an excellent troll though

>>2777826
Santa Cruz has several gun stores. I only know if the one private range, beyond Scotts Valley, on 17.

If you want a wider selection though, just drive over 17 to San Jose. Our stores have plenty of options and ammo in stock.

>>2781663
If he's going to San Jose, just hit the Bass Pro.

Went to try and jump shoot some ducks after work and didn't see shit.

neighbor called me yesterday. there's a fox with scabies in the area around my summer house. going up there on sunday. if we see it it'll be my first kill. poor guy

>>2781143
>>2781384
Not a buck in sight.... I checked all of my trail cams while I was up there. The last time they were around was June. Since then, nothing but does and fawns. For deer anyway, I got 7 bear sightings on one of them in just the month of September. I'm not hunting bear, so they're just a "hey, check it out, another bear". It looks like 3 bears. One is HUGE! all black bears of course here in Cali. I also got a couple videos of mountain lions. And foxes, there are always foxes. It looks like the troop had two more kits this year. They're up to 5 in that family group. But not a buck to be seen! They were here this time last year. I played tag with them, they'd show up and I'd show up a couple days later and then they would show back up a couple days after that. But not a single antlered deer this year since June 28. There's plenty of food for them up there. The apple trees didn't produce much fruit this year, but the oaks produced more, larger, acorns than I've ever seen them produce and the other vegetation I usually see them munching on is all over.

Okay, got it.

Is it stupid to hunt pheasants with an 18" barrel shotgun? I have one with a 26" barrel set up for hunting but at the clay field I'm more successful with the 18". I'm in the northeastern US and there is thick brush and not a ton of open space in the spots where I hunt pheasants. In other words, I'm not really expecting having to take a shot beyond 25 yards. Between that, the better performance on clays, and the fact that my shorter gun fits me better, I think I may be onto something here.

>>2782458
Go for it at 25 yds and in it's like grouse hunting and a lot of ppl use short barrel open chokes for that. If it works it works.

>>2777315
/k/ommandos dream

>>2782060
Someone I know ow said he passed on a fork spike last weekend because it wasn't much larger than a fawn. Temps are supposed to drop this next weekend, so we'll be heading back out if my boss approves my vacation request. I saw sign of mountain lion last time I was out but didn't see or hear any.

>>2782662
Good luck! That may have been my last deer hunting trip for the season unless my sister or brother in law see the bucks back on the property before the end of the month. I'm pretty discouraged ATM.

>>2781937
>didn't see the scabies fox all week. had my shotgun with me
>neither did the neighbor, despite putting out a baited trap
poor fella. luckily there's another hunter in the area to help put it down should they manage to trap it while I'm away. we plan on giving it a viking funeral

>>2777100
Anyone know how things are in the Spanish Peaks of Colorado right now for big game? I'm not able to hunt with college but my dad intends on going for some elk around this time (not sure what season).

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>hunting team leader just called me to tell me I am next in queue to get a half moose
alright boys and >girls, any tips for butchering? I'll probably aim for vacuum sealing large pieces. probably use the industrial grinder for mince

>>2777315
noooooooo!!!!!! this is funny but I would never point my gun at a visiting deer.. hunting scenes are meant to be peak painting and they should die in peace.. I bet some faggot will recreate this stupid webm and blow the deer's head off ;_;

dear deer
you claim to not want to be hunted yet you are made of food
curious
- turning point .308

>>2783981
The people of Papua New Guinea used to say the same thing when asked why they ate each other.

>>2784045
the most dangerous game

>>2782679
No luck. Thursday to this morning I saw maybe a dozen does the whole time. Not even a button buck. This was my last trip this season, I already have things set up for the next two weekends so I can't get out again.

>>2784124
Bummer... I'm probably not going to make it out again either. I did spot one antlered deer on the property after the bucks left around the end of June. This very young spike, showed up Aug 26. My brother in law has seen bucks on his way into town for work, but not up on the property. I'll be going up next weekend to check trail cams. If I see bucks I'll be up there later that week through season close on the 27th. If not, I'm done for the season.....time to get practicing my kee kee run for fall turkey.

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>>2784162
forgot picture..

I missed two deer this weekend. One while I was still hunting bc the bullet grazed a small tree, and the other from the saddle bc I didn't account for the weird angle when I shot the recoil caused my body to kinda pivot and swing, pulling the shot.

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Got a couple wooddies this morning. Was planning on duck hunting all week but I heard turkeys this morning and fall season doesn't end for a few more days. Do I take the gamble on a turkey tag or hunt ducks again tomorrow

>>2780324
>oaf
one awful father didnt he gift his daughter an expensive car?

>>2780246
unrelated, but that lady got a name?

>>2784275
so? he's impossible to work with, made enemies of the entire town etc. still amusing to watch

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First ever stag.

>>2784242
Go for the ducks you can always turkey hunt in spring

should've blown it's brains out OP

>>2784306
congrats anon

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>>2777221
>Why yes I do get 2-3x as much time to hunt in, how could you tell?

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>>2777315
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Picked up a medium-large male red-tailed hawk this season to do falconry with. Training is slow but coming along. We'll see if we get any rabbits/squirrel this season. I think small game populations bounced back a little since last year, so there should be good opportunity.

>>2784306
Congratulations

>>2783934
I've put together a team with me, a female friend of mine, my neighbor and his boomer father in law. the latter has experience with butchering. since I don't want to clean the bandsaw we'll probably clean the ribs of meat and toss that on the mince pile. planning on giving everyone some meat for helping

>>2784306
Nice! Congrats dude!!

>>2784438
I don't have any experience with moose, but I don't have a band saw. For the smaller mammals I have butchered, I just use a hand saw and a cleaver and rubber mallet. I saw through long bones but for the spine, for chops, I use the cleaver and mallet.

>>2784440
I had in mind a hacksaw. but I also already have plenty of ribs from the butchering earlier this year, but that butchering was with the entire team so the cleaning work amortized nicely among the 24 or so people attending. less so with just 4 people

>>2784442
Yeah, by hand saw, I meant hacksaw. I have a 16in butcher's hacksaw. It's great for splitting the spine and long bones. But it's not great for cutting through the spine when breaking down the rib section. So I use the cleaver and mallet, something I learned from watching a lamb butchering video. It might not be as much of an issue for the larger bones of a moose though.

>>2784446
>But it's not great for cutting through the spine when breaking down the rib section
we use a reciprocating saw to cut the animals in half lengthwise

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>>2784314
Went turkey hunting and got my first turkey. I don't plan on shooting hens in the future but after a few years of no luck my calling was finally good enough to bring in a bird so it's a trophy to me.

> Loaded my sxs with my bismuth #5 duck ammo and it worked just fine on turkey

>>2784555
Checked
Very nice. I'm hoping to get my first turkey this year too. I have to wait until harvest is over. Which reminds me, I need to get a call yet. Last time I looked it was hard to find something that did gobbles rather than hen clucking. Apparently in the fall male turkeys chill out together and don't care about females.

>>2784555
Good work. I'm not a serious duck hunter. Just jump shoot them out of a handful of ponds I know on public which are few and far between. Still haven't gotten my first duck yet.

>>2784555
Nice! I'm still trying for my first turkey. Fall turkey doesn't begin until Nov 9th for me. But I haven't seen any turkeys since spring, so I may or may not try this fall. They're always around in the spring though. And I had a couple conversations with a couple gobblers, but they never came into range. I know what I was doing wrong though, so I'm pretty sure I can call one in this spring. I'm practicing my kee kee run in case the turkeys show up in November.

> Loaded my sxs with my bismuth #5 duck ammo and it worked just fine on turkey
Good to know, that's what I'm shooting too. How far was your shot?

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>>2784449
>reciprocating saw to cut the animals in half

>>2784636
15 yards? That particular sxs is choked full and x-full. But hell anything choked full or modified is probably good to 30 yards with good ammo. I'd suggest patterning though

>>2784564
If you can find them primos made "fighting purrs" they'd little push calls don't get the new version they suck ass. Older turkey hunting mentor told me that's what he used in fall and they did get really chatty when I used them. They seem to stick into beech trees where a lot of nuts are in the ground. Roosting high on ridges.

>>2784675
I've patterned it out to 40y and it should be a dead turkey 40y and in, but I've never shot anything but paper with it. So it's good to hear it works in practice. I'm running an extra full turkey choke rated for up to #4 stainless steel. It says it'll keep Tungsten grouped out to 70y but I'm not paying $15/shell to find out.

>>2784681
Not allowed to use lead? Because lead no6s or hell even 7s will do it.

>>2784684
Nope, I'm in a lead free state...commiefornia. So it's SS, Tungsten, bismuth or hevi shot.

how does one get into hunting?
i want to hunt and make the meats edible for my family by freezing, curing, etc
is there something like a complete guide/Hunter's bible? i live in eastern Europe half of the year, the other half traveling in Nordic, western and south american countries (work related)
so i can only hunt reliably during spring and fall, afaik that's hunting season in Bulgaria but i might be mistaken because I'm a complete noob
please help

>>2784748
take a hunting course. get a gan. befriend another hunter or two. maybe join a team

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>>2784162
It's just a young double fork, but it's a legal buck. I'll be out there for closing weekend for Cali C zone. Wish me luck!

>>2784306
Congrats. That's a pretty old one, isn't it?

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>>2784877
It was missing a bunch of teeth, and the ones that were left had significant wear.
He was certainly past his prime, +15 years.

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>>2783934
update on the butchering: from a 106 kg carcass we managed to extract 81 kg of meat. a respectable result considering I expected closer to 60 kg

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>>2784871
No luck, saw the does and fawns again. They even walked through my camp last night. But no bucks. No venison for me this year :/
Well, time to start practicing my kee kee run for fall turkey.

>>2777315
I'll get you next time, you little bugger!

>>2784893
Klarer Hegeabschuss

Went out a few times with my flintlock with no luck, but now I finally have some more 8mm mauser ammo, hopefully Wednesday I can go stalk some more

>>2785283
tally ho

>>2777100
Ate moose backstrap for dinner yesterday.
From my first ever moose hunt, it was some of the best meat I've ever eaten.
Already looking forward to hunting next fall.

>>2785330
møøse is great. very lean
>backstrap
try the entrecote next. it's further up the back, basically the "hump". and the tenderloin of course

Anyone hunt turkeys in the fall/winter? Never hunted turkey but I'm planning on heading to the Black Hills area to hunt them this weekend. Looks like it will get some snow too so wondering how that affects them.

I'm looking to get into archery and be somewhat competent with a bow in time for next year's deer season. I have a few questions I'm hoping you guys could answer
>What bow should I get? (western USA)
>Should I get a bow for learning and then a real hunting bow, or can one do both jobs?
>Should I only be looking at compound bows, or are there other types that are worth my attention?
>If you don't have any specific recommendations, what qualities should I look for to get a quality bow and avoid a shitter?
>What price range should I shoot for?
>What arrows should I get, both practice field tips and hunting broadheads
>What's a realistic goal I can expect for accuracy/distance?
>I've already been on a rifle hunt this year and had enough gear for that. Is there anything extra I should bring for bow hunting?
and finally
>Are there any good resources you think I should read/watch?

>>2785445
My advice would be buy a used name brand compound bow from eBay and then take it to a shop and get it looked over and setup for you. (Usually just a new string and some minor adjusting)
> Bowtech, bear, Matthews doesn't really matter just research fps per draw weight and buy what you can afford
> If your shooting poundage is 60lbs+ get a single pin sight (you can get these on eBay for cheap)
> Keep your shots under 30 yards (the deer can hear arrows coming in and WILL move before it gets to where you aimed
> Shoot heavy arrows (heavy grain per inch carbon arrows)
> Heavy fixed blade broadheads only (100grain+) mechanicals are a meme
> Sharpen your broadheads
> Use a release
> Whisker bisket arrow rests are great and cheap
> A three arrow quiver is all you need for normal hunting (a bigger quiver just adds weight to your wrist and is cumbersome in a tree stand)

Or just say fuck it and buy a decent crossbow package.

>>2785445
Go to a pro shop and get one fitted and setup for you. Don't buy from ebay or used. Get setup right the first time and have the guys at the shop teach you how to shoot correctly. They should be able to answer all your questions if they're competent.

Closing weekend is coming up. Got asked if I want to get out 1 more time, but I checked the weather and they expect almost a foot of snow. Not taking a 4 hour drive to go take a chance in the snow for a few hours and back.

>>2785390
In the fall, your goal is to bust up the flock, find a good spot to "hide" and call with a kee kee run, simulating a lost turkey trying to regroup. In the fall, hens call to hens and toms/jakes call to toms/jakes. So if you're looking to take a bearded bird, practice jake yelps as well. They're very similar to hen yelps, but more drawn out.

Just got my license, looking to get started. How do y’all like small game hunting?

>>2786084
hunt bear like a real man faggot

>>2786084
Try getting a shotgun and hunting grouse. It's good practice, and they're tasty and easy to clean and gut in the field.

>>2786251
nta but I'm worried about hunting grouse because, at least where I live, you can only hunt one type of grouse and it doesn't seem like you'll get much time to determine if it's actually legal to shoot once they take off

>>2786251
>>2786290
Have you watched the most recent season of Alone? You don't need a shotgun, all you need is a long stick with some trapping wire. Just walk up to it all casual and nonchalant and slip the loop over their neck and ...zoink!

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Muzzleloader starts Saturday and I'm super hype. I'm trying to get my brother into hunting more often and have convinced him to go on opening weekend hopefully we don't get rained out

I may need to start hunting for food in order to get by. I just can't afford meat anymore and I'm not going to be able to pay my rent soon. Is there a cost effective way to hunt? Trapping small game?

>>2786313
honestly muzzleloader just looks fun. hope to try it out someday

>>2786402
why not just steal? serious question

>>2786431
There are cameras everywhere.

>>2786416
Getting an inline is fairly cheap and you don't need much else. It's probably my favorite season but we usually only get like a week and a half of it before rifle starts

And season is over here in CA. Not one person in my group saw a legal buck this year. I think between now and next year I'll try getting into archery so I can stretch my season earlier.

>>2786626
here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J---aiyznGQ

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Day 2 not looking good. Wife got a tiny spike yesterday but that's the only deer we've seen on the property. Lots of shooting on neighboring properties, probably wiped out most of the deer we've been seeing in the days leading up. Oh well! That's hunting.

>>2777315
comfy as fuck
but if I catch you playing with your dinner again I'm taking away your computer for a week

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Went out for pheasant opener and 3/4 of us got a bird. Funnily enough we beat out a whole group of 8 who had dogs and fancy break actions that walked away with 1. Dogs are overrated hunting tools. Planning to get out there again this weekend.

>>2786675
what does pheasant taste like?

>>2786740
They're farm raised and released into the wild here in WI so they taste like chicken. I hear about some surviving the winter and actually living out here and those supposedly taste a little gamier.

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>>2777221
got this with a crossbow

>>2786752
That's pretty cool.
Wish it was legal here, we can only hunt with "guns using gun powder to propel a projectile", or snares on small game.
So any variety of bow is illegal for hunting, and airguns as well, even on small game.

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Finally got my skull from last year dug up and cleaned up

>>2786652
Husqvarna? 9.3x57?

Is there any reason to look into small gauge shotguns + TSS loads for turkey hunting? I've been out of the loop for a bit and noticed .410 shotguns being advertised as turkey guns. The last time I was shotgun shopping, some people were going from 12 to 10 gauges, not the other way around.

>>2787162
If you or anyone you want to take hunting are recoil sensitive 410 with tss work well you get a good pellet count and even #9s at 50 yards penetrate well. Shotguns are also a lot lighter downside being $$$ per shot.

Otherwise just use long beard xr out of the shotgun you have or any "turkey ammo" that patterns well for you.

Anyone have luck in ma? Crazy drought and high temps. This is the worst rut I’ve ever hunted. Also what the fuck is with this 15 minute post timer?

>>2786402
If you're legitimately dirt-poor, possum and raccoon can be good in a slow-cooker with some barbecue sauce. You have to cook it carefully though, any parasites need to be killed. Don't try it if you're retarded and you need to know how to tell when an animal is sick.
This might be a LARP though, because you're posting on the internet that I assume you pay for, with a computer I also assume you paid for.

>>2787163
Awesome, I was mainly looking at it for my mom. She inherited a 12 ga semi auto, and I feel like one of the things holding her back from actually getting into turkey hunting is the recoil from magnum turkey loads. Even if this isn't what it takes to get her in the woods with me, I'd gladly take it for myself if it's lethal at 50 yards.

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Got my deer. Shot her in the woods and she ran into the swamp behind me. We spent about an hour poking around in the grass and couldn't see shit, finally went back and followed the blood trail and found her 15 feet in where we must have passed her 10 times. Lots of work to drag her out.

>>2787048
Stiga! 30-06. Same idea.

>>2786947
That looks super good, if I ever get a buck worth preserving I'll probably try to emulate this. Much better looking than the bleached skull.

>>2787181
I was a retard and got my mother in law to buy a semi auto 12 gauge thinking that the weight, gas system and thick recoil pad would be enough to make it an effective all around critter fitter for her property, but despite being desperate to learn to hunt she can't handle it. If it was legal to use .410 for turkey here I absolutely would get her one.

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>>2786402
Unironically learn to fish, and learn to love and target "lesser" fish like bass, pike, and catfish. Hunting is fucking expensive unless you happen to live in an area where you have easy access and generous seasons. I have to drive 1 or more hours to get anywhere I can shoot and at least 2 hours to get anywhere with any chance of seeing game. Before I got my hookups for good deer land I spent many hundreds of dollars and countless hours every year chasing tiny morcels of small game and not getting any big game on public land, it doesn't pay off until you're at the point where you can reliably take big game, which may take a lifetime.

You can buy several fishing rods, reels, lures, and a small kayak before you come even close to the price of a low range hunting rifle. I fish 15 minutes from home, after work, weekend mornings with my son, fill a stringer and add 3 or 4 pounds of protein to the freezer, at the cost of time and a few lost hooks and bait (often free)

Hunting is great, it's not part of your short term solutions.

>>2777315
why is it so comfortable running up to a human like that

>>2787219
Nice doe that'll be good eating. You can go sub gauge with tss but maybe just double up her hearing protection first. A lot of recoil sensitivity is mitigated by the noise for some ppl.

>>2787257
Either it's staged or people have been hand feeding those deer and that particular one since it's birth. It's basically a tame deer.

Looking to get into small game hunting, rabbit specifically, and not too sure where to go location wise. I'm in Eastern PA and there's a lot of game lands around, but I've heard mixed things. Anything I should be looking for in a spot? Worst comes to worst and I take a hike for a few hours.

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Having some good hunts this weekend. Had to do some epic bushwacking. Fuck wild roses, my hands are shredded.

>>2787329
No one will have any advice or info. Even if they did they wouldn't share it. Your best bet is just to go then learn the places for yourself. Then don't share any info about good spots with anyone else.

Found a huge buck out at the farm today, I'm gonna try an get back out there by the end of the week

>>2787180
puters can be had for free, as can internets
>>2787219
>stiga
didn't know they also made M96's. learn something new every day. also the M96 action is weak. I wouldn't recommend it. there's a reason the M98 has a bigger ring/barrel nut, bigger vent holes in the bolt and a safety lug. I suggest looking it up

>>2786675
Dogs are not overrated for birds. Dogs smell the birds out. Dogs keep birds pinned and point them out to you so you can run over and get set up. Dogs bring the bird back to you. Farmed birds fly, wild birds run. You still get lucky at the ends of ditches, fence lines, but dogs make a difference. It's also a great joy to just watch a bird dog work, they absolutely love it.

>>2787162
TSS loads keep high penetration out to pretty extreme ranges, farther than you should probably shoot. With steel you couldn't get that performance. Smaller shotguns have less recoil, generally cost less, and are much lighter to carry around. Still they are tough old birds especially if you just barely miss because he jinks as you shoot. RIP my spring bird opportunity this year. Coyote stole my dad's cousin's bird.

Mostly had to pass on fall big game this year since I spent every weekend training instead of going out. Went down to Texas and did some duck hunting off the coast by corpus, got 4 redheads between my dad and I (2 daily reds per person, 6 aggregate) but basically only saw reds. Only hunted 1 day, thunderstorms were rolling in and had to spend multiple days working on the trailer and finding a stick to put down the tube to get legal.

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This morning I shot the biggest buck I’ve ever even seen during my 24 years of hunting. First, and likely only, time I’ll ever call a taxidermist as well. There have been many bleak seasons in that time. I’ve popped five other bucks but nothing like this.

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>>2787733
congrats anon

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>>2777100
Reading this thread I can't help but feel it's fucked hunting is outlawed here in Brazil. My grandpa only had me shooting birds when I was a teen and even that was illegal, he used to hunt a lot before it was outlawed for "enviromental concerns" in '08, which I guess just sports hunting is somehow more harmful than the thousands of miles of rainforest given away to big farming every year. He has a american friend which he goes to visit each year so they go out hunting since here we no longer have that kind of freedom inspite how fitting it would be and the raging invasive species issue. Depressing aint it.

>>2787733
That's awesome anon! Happy for you, it's a beauty

>>2787764
>it was outlawed for "enviromental concerns" in '08, which I guess just sports hunting is somehow more harmful than the thousands of miles of rainforest given away to big farming every year
just sounds like an excuse to take away guns desu

>>2787257
There's a predator nearby and it's seeking help from anyone else. It will attempt to divert the predator into the hunter for its own survival.

>>2787810
I don't know how fucked Hue laws are, but that seems to be common.
>we're passing a law where you can't buy a firearm without a "valid" reason
>of course hunting is a valid reason
>5 years pass
>we're banning hunting / restricting it to a small number of approved hunters

>>2787181
I've patterned a lot of shells from 2 3/4-3.5in shells lead to tungsten. Through multiple different chokes.

If you want to shoot 50 yards then a Carlson's tss choke and of all things Herters 2 3/4in #9tss is the most budget tss combo that will perform at that distance in my testing.

That being said if you're not hunting open fields (at least where I'm at) the maximum shot distance in the woods is about 30 yards. And at that distance pretty much anything will do the job, I've heard some people that winchester AA #7.5 trap loads work for them.

The Herters 12ga tss is pretty light on the shoulder too.

Very new to bowhunting and working on my mobile whitetail setup. ive been using a hawk helium stand and stick set but have been looking for better option. Im 6'5 and 300 pounds is there a saddle setup out there that would work for me or should i just get a novix helo setup?

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Got into a few birds today. It's been a slow season. Missed two deer a few weeks back.

Last full weekend here in WA state for late season rifle for whitetail. Hoping to bring something home tomorrow or its joever.

>>2788297
Have faith brother. It will happen.
> Checkem

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Got a pretty average sized buck with a pretty small rack in Northwestern Missouri with my Springfrield Trapdoor carbine repro in 45-70. Only shot him because it was a slow opening day and I was only up there for the weekend. Got him in the left lung and I'm always amazed they don't just drop dead from a hit like that.

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>>2788559
Aaaaand popped a squirrel today in the last 10 minutes I allotted to my hunting trip with my CC pistol, I was honestly shocked I hit it from 20 yards with a dinky little .380 with dogshit sights. I'm satisfied, think I'll try again for blackpowder deer season come December.

God damn it. One of my friends had a buck drinking from her birdbath in the back yard last weekend. I could have taken a bow up there and gotten fresh meat, instead she posted a "cute" picture on facebook then scared it away so it wouldn't eat her flowers.

>>2788559
I just picked up a CVA scout in 45-70. Debating if I should hunt with it this year versus my 350 legend. How many deer have you killed with they cartridge and what ammo specifically did you use.

>>2788559
Post that trap door bre

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>>2788599
This is my first year with .45-70. I was *hoping* it would just knock the thing down outright, but I think I threaded the bullet through it's rib when I got him in the lung, otherwise I think the concussion of hitting bone would've knocked him down. Either way, he bled out pretty quick. I just use the cheapest (but still ~$2.30 a round) Winchester Super-X. Where my stand's at, you'd have to be trying pretty hard to miss so ballistic performance isn't too important to me.
>>2788600
I gotchu. Thing shoots so fucking high, I think they intended it to be a distance shooter on account of the tang sight so I have to aim about an inch low (equates to about 5 inches on the target). You can't set the aperture low enough to shoot on-bead under 100 yards, due to the size of the trapdoor/breech obscuring the front sight. Still very pretty and powerful.

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I have a 20in AR15 that I am very proficient in and am extremely confident in its accuracy and zero. How practical is deer hunting with .223 and what sort of ammo would be ideal for it?

>>2788612
Any good quality 60gr+ bonded bullet should be completely fine for deer. Especially with a 20in barrel.

Federal fusion or speer gold dots would be my choice or maybe a Barnes mono copper bullet

>steal baby animals
>raise them
>make them make new animals
>you now have a bunch of animals
>hungry
>kill animal
Why aren't you doing this instead of crawling through ticks?

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>>2788607
Sexo

>>2788607
You might just need a higher front sight. How much are those trap doors running these days? Looks great.

>>2788612
I’ve killed my last 3 deer with 62 grain Barnes TSXs out of a 12.5 inch “Pistol” because I’m in a shotgun and pistol only zone, and I don’t own a suppressor for my slug gun. It kills them just as dead as a 12 gauge slug out to 250 yards (my longest sightline here)

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Wee little lad under my tree stand yesterday.
>inb4 why didn’t you shoot him!
I’m not gonna potentially blow a shot on a deer to kill a coyote that isn’t hurting anything.
>Boo hoo, they eat barn cats.
That’s a good thing.

So far all my predator problems have wings and a white feathered head, and I can’t shoot those, so why would I bother a predator that doesn’t bother me?

Now, if the pelts were still valuable, I might still hunt coyotes too, but even the. I’m not going to blast one with a 12 gauge when I’m hoping for a deer

Had a tough hunt the other day, missed two broadside shots on a big buck while he was running away. But on the bright side my family is going to help me get set up with reloading equipment, so I'm gonna be having fun with that over the winter

>>2788559
Nice buck
Seen one like this last night but passed it up cause somewhere on my property is a huge 8 point thats evaded me for 4 years

>>2788666
>You might just need a higher front sight.
True, but it would look kind of absurd, the front post is already getting pretty tall. I thought about getting an actual rear sight installed but then I'd have to do something about the tang sight, because you can't shoot it when it's folded backward, otherwise it'd tear your cheek open.
>How much are those trap doors running these days?
The one I've got is an old one from the 70s, it's a Harrington & Richardson (Italian made, American assembled). Got it used on GunBroker for ~$700 before shipping/taxes. I think this is probably the lowest end you can get for Trapdoor reproductions. Cimarron and Taylor and Co. both make their own but they run around $1500 for a full sized one new. They aren't that much cheaper used. I'm happy with it even with the sight issue, it shoots perfect windage wise, by the looks of the bore it looked like it might not ever have been fired, if not sparsely.

Can you guys resist making buck breaking jokes?

>>2789165
Most of us aren't faggots, so that shit never crosses our minds. Fuck off back to /b/ faggot