What are some measurable signs of prenatal exposure to female hormones? I am a straight cis male, but suspect I may have been physically and psychologically feminized in the womb.2D:4D ratio is often used as a proxy for prenatal hormone exposure, with it being higher among women (who average at roughly 0.99) than men (who average within the lower 0.90s). Mine is well above the female average, at 1.02.In terms of fat distribution, the average male waist-to-thigh ratio is 1.88, as compared to 1.78 among women, with mine being ultra-feminine at 1.4. Although I am only attracted to women, the way I stand and walk around has often been perceived by others as "gay" or effeminate, which I suspect may be the result of my having female-typical skeletal morphology: my waist-to-hip ratio is 0.79, which is within the androgynous range but leaning feminine (in one 2012 study, sex ambiguous line drawn figures with a WHR of 0.8 were identified as female 60% of the time).Alternatively, I have theorized that my perceived gayness may be the consequence of my body having unconsciously and involuntarily adopted female-typical mannerisms, in order to signal to potential mates that I am sexually submissive (a male-atypical trait which I suspect may also be the result of prenatal feminization) - similar to how the female-typical mannerisms which, among gay men, help to signal status as a 'bottom' to potential partners, often emerge involuntarily while a person is still closeted. While I feel attraction to both stereotypically feminine women and more androgynous ones, it is the latter group who have reciprocated, with most of my romantic partners having been lesbian-leaning bisexuals; a demographic more likely to be sexually and romantically compatible with a submissive male, and therefore less likely to be repulsed by effeminate cues.What other signs or metrics are there of prenatal feminization in a man?
>>43642296That makes sense. I guess the more specific question becomes, which other dimorphic traits are, like 2D4D and WHR, easily measured?
>>43642711SHR (mainly biacromial:pelvic breadth width), carrying angle, etc. Even stuff like digit ratio can change slightly after puberty afaik.
>>43641796>Straight cis male>Casually wrote up an unreadable thesis on tranny phrenologyLol
>>43642835based
>>43642835>unreadableIf any part is particularly unclear I'd be happy to clarify!
What religion does /lgbt/ follow >letter >religion >what were you born into >gay>zen Buddhism >sunni Muslim of shafi school
>>43643181*neverpassing cis gay male on hrtto be exact
>mtf>none, but partial to "woke" protestantism>laestadian
>>43641989mtf jewish
>>43641989>ReligionBird behavior
>>43643292Birds are cute tho
I wish I had a tranny gf who would call me her boyfriend and compliment me on my masculinity despite the fact that I take estrogen
it's been nearly three weeks since my husband announced his comeback and he's still not back yet and i'm starting to yiik out again
>>43642927Good to hear it. How are the two of you different?
>>43642927you didn’t eat him did you??
>>43643006if i eated bones. i don't eat it bc i did. no i didn't
Did u eat skrill
>>43643255no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why do trannies look like 70s rock stars?
>>43640767It's always very unfortunate when you see the phenotype of a trans girl in a guy, like damn you're a preset option of a guy
>>43640767I feel like in kiss "lick it up" video, all band members look like trans women. One of them even transitioned
>>43642074Vinnie Vincent? I don't think he's a tranny he just looks like one
>>43640767I think you should be asking why so many male rock stars look like trannies
>>43640767mogs me>>43640775no it doesn't, john lennon was way more masculine.
>be me>23 mtf transbian>identified as bi for a while but turns out I feel deeply repulsed by men>attempts at bottoming with men made me avoid bottoming in general>perma top since>meet cute autistic cisbian on hinge>have a couple of awesome dates>"I actually thought you were cis when I met you">I'm literally the first trans woman she's ever met>we have sex>"I actually don't know how I feel about you having a dick">time passes and she gets to a conclussion>heavely dislikes it >still, she likes me>we start datingComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>43642692I wanted the surgery before even meeting her! but I feel thrice as excited about it because of her, specially since I know it will be amazing for the both of us to have sex post-op!!
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>>43633860>starts topping me from time to timeim curious how she is topping you exactly
>>43634460It’s only been half a year?? Oh nona, you are so cooked…
>>43642970she fingers me! I used to be so repulsed by the idea of being penetrantes since my experiences with men felt awful, painful and disgusting but she has long thing fingers so I got curious and thought it would be interesting to ask her. Now I wanna make her fuck me with a strap, so my next salary may have to cover that!>>43643020how so??? I would've met her mom sooner but she lives quite far away so it was not optimal until now for economic reasons.
QOTT 1: Do you have a favorite cryptid?QOTT 2: Is there an unsung local cryptid in your area?Previous thread: >>43549972
>>43641772im sure you arent i dont know whats wrong but you should not rope
really funny recurring bit in my brain where I wish there was a way to get myself to not have sexual thoughts, remembering they did that to alan turing, then remembering how they did that
at times i think i genuinely enter a kind of psychosis where i believe im more feminine than i really am, its a form of self protection. if i can just avoid mirrors or only look in good lighting and anglefraud then i can convince myself i just look a bit androgynous or something. but then at times ill see the truth and its like holy shit. im just an ugly weird looking man. i fucked my life up so badly.
>>43642698holy shit this is me. my eyes literally lie to me when i look in the mirror at my face. I learned recently to see reality i need to cover one eye and suddenly i can see myself in HD and holy fuck it's brutal. i just stared into the mirror for half an hour in kind of disbelief and cried
I still remember when my grandma told me that on the first ultrasound they thought I was a girl
VOOTer editionold >>43624253QOTT: Did your state have a primary recently, or is it soon? Did you/will you vote?
>>43643024are you being paid to say this
the bare razor blade i use to open boxes at work calling out to me “cut yourself a little” like green goblin’s suit
>>43643037yes 100%
>>43642872nice. as an armpit fiend it's nice to hear that it can be that enjoyable for the other person
>>43643070hope you find some pits to sniff <3
If you don't clean your but wet, like with wet wipes or water, and just use normal toilet paper you always have a dirty butt
>>43640592Thread is both hot and highly informative, I've never heard that before about the coconut oil.Also appreciate the diet guide, some good ideas there.
my bottom uses an industrial autoclave to clean his butt
>>43639774You all gonna end up in diapers anyway after too much anal sex so why police my butthole now? Maybe its dirty, men don't care
>>43641192this is not a diaper thread shut up
How do you into wet wipes? Even the 'flushable' ones aren't flushable.
Every single time oldfag trans women who were here in the mid 2010s start talking together they start casually slipping in the amount of time they've been on hrt. And all of it is because back in the day we remember the susans place and /r/transpassing asshole threads where people had screenshot folders full of ugly trans women. Even if we didn't participate in the cruel posting or regret participating we are aware of the "if you waited X amount of time you're AGP and you look like this reddit screenshot" meta. The atmosphere on this board back then was that trans women are bad unless they meet a certain standard, transphobia exists because we are cringe, if I do not pass I am a worthless freak. And we really hated ourselves. When you see someone go "I'm 32, I've been on hrt for 13 years" what they're communicating is that they look somewhat normal. The insecurity produced by those mean threads have been like a permanent marionette strings. Henceforth I will no longer mention the age at which I transitioned.
>>43641138I transitioned six years ago at age 24. This statement alone is enough to communicate many things about me as a person and the state of my transition. It's a handy shorthand. Instead of explaining how I'm an AGP covid lateshit and will never pass I can simply provide two numbers and it tells the reader eveyrthing they need to know.
>>43641138are hon threads even a thing anymore? havent seen a good one in a while
>>43641138Only tangentially related, but it's strange how much board culture has changed in a relatively short amount of time. I'm a newfag who only started posting in early 2020 right before this place first really blew up elsewhere, yet it's almost unrecognizable compared to what it once was. Everyone being a psuedotransfeminist is a particularly bizarre development to me.
>>43641138i was here in 2015 but was a retard and didnt start hrt til 2020.
>>43641260I‘m newfaggy enough that I can’t call it „peak“ but good lord was this board amazing back in covid
are there any good cures for trans OCD?
estrogen
>>43642955what is trans ocd how does it differ from cis ocd
>>43642979tried it didn’t work>>43642986It just means ocd around being trans
Is it possible to fix gender dysphoria by finding a girl who looks like me and taking care of her to the best of my ability and vice versaIn other words I'd be happy to look at her and see her happy and she'd feel the same towards me?Do people do this? Does this happen?
>>43642510>sisconwhat does this mean
>>43642582Not a good thing
>>43642582look it up on gelbooru or ao3!
uhhh i don't think i will actually
nah I think you will. You probably already have
I feel as if you ask a majority of "cis" people, they would in some way to reject the cisheteronormativity. I'm not talking about men wearing dresses and women being masculine. But in the sex term of it, that really a lot of "cis" men would love to be referred to as a woman, right? This applies to cis women as well. A lot of "cis" women want to be referred to as a man? The only reason we see more closeted trans women come out is because closeted trans men repress more.If we take this hypothesis that transness is not the minority, in the same way we assume bisexuality is not the minority, then anti-trans bullshit is less about minority / identity politics rather about the future of human progress.Politically speaking, transexuality and transexualism should be referred to in the same vein as enhancing human progress, not as protecting le minorities.Is this just oppression-cope or am I onto to something here? Politically speaking, transexuality should be framed as a human progress politic. If you don't agree with transexuality, you don't agree with the evolution of humanity.
no, nobody is trans, nobody has ever existed who was born in the wrong body and/or looks exactly like the opposite of their genetic sex, transgenderism is a political movement of conservatives trying to enforce order and hierarchy and rigid binary roles
>>43641396shut up, gincel.
>>43641386It's cope. Most people truly don't give a shit. That's something that only became clear to me after a decade of being a weirdo obsessed with sex/gender questions then realizing that nobody else around me gives a shit. Realizing that it doesn't even cross their minds to consider these things that you've been thinking about for years feels a little lonely.>If you don't agree with transexuality, you don't agree with the evolution of humanity.people will be very confused and they will ask questions like "how is changing my sex supposed to help pay for groceries exactly" so how do you answer that? You need to be able to explain why people should care instead of assuming that they already do because evidently they don't.
>>43641812Groceries are for the week, sex is forever.
>>43642894okay trannie antoinette
**Hi, Ray Blanchard here. Listen: I got new updates to my transexualism typology. AGPs and HSTS are alive and well in men. However, I'd like to coin a new term: Polyamorous Perversion Gender Orientation. Or PPGO. All of us are monogamous creatures. Instinctively that is. The PPGO male seeks to subvert their inherent monogamy by having multiple partners. However, polyamory doesn't necessarily mean "human" people. AI chatbots are included. Other projections as well. Lust towards video-game characters and real people are all forms of polyamory in my loose definition.Its not that he is aroused at becoming a woman himself (AGP), or is aroused at the thought of pleasuring men with his new "woman" body (HSTS), rather he is aroused by hypothetically being in a body that he cognizant is not his own yet still interacts (PPGO). Think playing Fallout: New Vegas and choosing a female character. Or talking with a female AI chatbot. These are all PPGO characteristics and its not long till all these PPGO characters transition. Now this is not AGP as an AGP male recognizes that he is a woman. PPGO males are in a disassociative fugue and he doesn't do it for himself, or for others rather for a hypothetical third spirit. RFK Jr. is completely right: autism enables the PPGO male to undergo sex transition when really all they need is to cut video-game addiction and kiss real flesh. I do not recommend sex transition for you PPGO males. Best of luck, Trannies!
blanchard is a fraud
>>43641536>being this much of a faggot
>>43641617>being this much of a biological gay man
>>43641403am i your favorite little armpit sniffing princess daddy >////<
>>43642406Axillary fetishry isn't something to be proud about.
why is ffs pushed so hard when this is the result?
>>43641756Oh I can be plenty mean. See the Anna threads for details.
>>43641790In that case would you be willing to add me on disc?
>>43641956Sure. What's your disc?
>>43641975Sent!
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