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When I was young, I thought that one of the members of Hanson was a hot girl.
Later found it it was a guy.
Was I actually gay?

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>goth girl
>ROGD
>over dose my testosterone for 2yrs and bind so much that my tit skin is sagged & stretchy (possible hEDS DESU)
>unsupportive family; doesn't feel real bc i rely on external validation
>my dad starts talking about my vagina as a baby while drunk on my first HRT appointment
>mom uses any ounce of femininity as proof i'm not a man, wants to call me "deadname-chosenname" as a "compromise" despite the fact that i passed and it would make the public confused/possibly unsafe
>always scared of detransition & making a mistake
>decide to detrans bc the thoughts & fear won't stop haunting me, got pressured & sexually blackmailed once while trans so what's even the point of it all
> the jig is up once they know u have a vagina

> 1 year into detransition
> mom told me she couldn't even tell i had an adams apple or was on testosterone, just seem like a woman with a deep voice

>feel defensive when people call me cis
>don't care about pronouns or presentation because it's all a lie anyways, they start calling u "she" anyways once they know u have a vag

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>>41742424
Idk why you suspect you have rogd, frankly I skeptical of that theory generally, but you definitely seem to have detransed for the wrong reason. I know that it’s easier to write that than live it, but I can relate to that kind of pressure at least.
As much as one may try to give a tremendous amount of grace and credence and consideration to unaccepting parents, that is supposed to go both directions. I think dealing with that so immediately must be so overwhelming and you just want them to stop, but you can’t let them live your life for you when they try. I was fortunate that I only really dealt with that in spurts earlier in my trans. I’m in a pretty compromised situation right now, I succumbed to the pressure to come home. That said, I had a chance to learn to hold standards for what I let get to me through a lot of other challenges against my transition.
I can’t speak to what’s in your head, but it does sound like you’re trans. I know that frustration with people disregarding your comfort and viewing you differently, but you have to push back. It’s hard to enforce against family, but you can choose who hangs out with you based in part on their acceptance and understanding.
Let them try misgendering you after much longer on t, when you look like a man. They’ll look absurd and you may then spitefully revel in their defeat. Look forward to the day that you can rub it in their stupid faces. I know I am.
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>>41743794
people in these spaces would call it ROGD bc i kept trying to femme it up to suppress right before dysphoria hit really bad. i'm really good at looking feminine if i try hard enough. the bone structure helps

i live with my mom again. i'm just tired of fighting it. i think i'll just secretly transition this time and let them look dumb for saying i'll always be a woman.

my mom scoffed when i first ever mentioned wanting to grow a beard. i'm learning with time that family doesn't really mean all that much and i don't have to feel like a fraudulent cosplay of a man. most of what being a man is is just self confidence in who you are. i think my lack of self confidence and validation screwed me over the first time around.

i think i'll just start working out again so that i can at least live with that until i can get HRT again. thank you for having so much understanding and compassion with this anonymous mental illness thread.

i tried to be very understanding of christianity while transitioning. i thought they would feel moved to understand me more, but they're almost at the point of religious delusion, so their wants and woes don't really matter in the end.

even if other people don't see it as real i can still transition and live a happy life. it doesn't have to be based on what people who say "warshcloth" feel.

i'm glad you were able to realize you don't have to lessen yourself just because you live with family. i admire your worldview and confidence. i'll get there soon. thank you
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>>41743911
lol that’s not rogd, that’s the reverse of boy midi boymoding being girlmoding.
Yeah I recommend to start by hiding it. Be prepared for the day they find out, tho, and be ready to stand your ground. The moment that you have that talk about differing ideas of what is right for you is viscerally scary, horrifying even, but the liberation is worth facing it head on.
Plenty of dudes project false self-confidence, or wear their lack of it outright. If I had to attribute anything to masculinity, it’s maintaining functionality while weathering utter shit. Self confidence and validation are however entirely necessary for the trans experience. Many fall short of that and detrans, because it’s exceptionally absurdly hard, but if it’s any consolation I have complete faith in you.
Yeah modern American Christianity can be pretty atrocious, one of my first instances of standing up for my transition was against this church that I was really committed to at the time.
Don’t be hasty about Southern accents tho just because they’re represented poorly, warshcloth is admittedly fun to say. I expose my accent when I say something like potaytah lol
Thank you, I really appreciate you too. I felt kinda like a hypocrite telling you all of that when I still have so many issues, but funnily enough between my last post and now I was actually confronted by my parents and had to spill everything I was holding back from them. My dad told me that he will never accept me as trans, which only confirms my prior suspicion. That really sucked, it still isn’t easy to have these conversations, but I have come incredibly absurdly far to even have that capability and not acquiesce as a lie. Someday they will have to understand that it may be really uncomfortable for them too, but that this matter is in your hands alone.
Good luck, I have total faith in you
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>>41743608
>no counter + projection
See? You even respond like a woman, keep it up.
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>>41743794
>waa waaa foidbabble
Looking real masculine ITT.
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>>41746009
Dawwww thank you!!! I know you didn’t know I’m mtf, but I was giving advice about being trans more than being a trans man. You think I’m fembrained!!!
I don’t think the gentleman is tho, just going through some rough stuff

my life is extremely horrible and pointless
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>>41746048
leafyisqueer
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>>41746072
HE DOESN'T FUCKING LOOK LIKE LEAFY
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>>41746048
2012 called, anon

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>>41742606
No I'm not
And ok I'll keep those in mind
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>>41732189
a delectable gay boi~ mmmm so lithe and scrawny
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>>41744458
This is getting out of hand, now you’re posting semi nude people without their consent

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My pooner boyfriend who calls himself "dysphoric but not trans" keeps insisting against me transitioning. He claims to know more about GD than me and that I don't have it but at the same time he sends me tranny gore and vents about wanting to kill every mtf. Should I listen to him?
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Big if true
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>>41745419
no, obviously you shouldn't listen to him
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>>41745419
>pooner
>not trans
What?

>got sexually violently assaulted by a mudslim
>got stolen from by a negro who knew how fucked up my situation was, which lead to me being homeless
>had jeets stalk me and ignore my rejections multiple times
I went from someone who read commie theory (albeit I couldn't agree with the hippie approach in the west) to someone who is far right and read Hitler. Finding dates is so hard as leftism co-opted LGBTism. It also makes men hyper-ugly.
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>>41745190
I was never pro immigration and never cried racism. You're retarded. I stated in the first post I didn't subscribe to the hippie aspects.
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>>41745111
Are you Swedish?
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>>41744949
How do you know that you haven't just fallen victim to confirmation bias?
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>>41745250
>I was never pro immigration and never cried racism
Then what exactly about niggers nogging made you be a nazi? You could have just stayed anti-immigration since jarheads jar-ing has nothing to do with any other aspect of communism.
Why is every nazi a dipshit?
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>>41745303
The racial aspects of the Nazi ideology are good, but the financial aspects are bad. I'm confident in that if western Europe and America were purely white, then their societies would be much more greater than they are now.

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Goth trans women are so beautiful and goth trans men are disgusting and awful. It isn't fair. I wish I were a trans woman.
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I'm a manmoder mtf and I wish I was a goth womanmoder with a bunch of goth friends (cis m, cis f, mtf, ftm, and nbs) just all being pals and looking cool

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wtf do women wear to job interviews???

im a recovering boymoder with a job interview tomorrow and idk what to wear pls help
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>>41741227
Nah 22yo is latest latest yngmi i read it on my plebbit loser sub blaming age for why they can't pass and not our lack of effort voice training laser etc
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>>41740745
>Yeah should've gone homeless to avoid my family killing me so that I could idk, die in the street as queer ppl aren't a thing where I'm from
Yeah maybe
>>41741227
A 25yo shouldnt be allowed to troon
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>>41743746
Carmen Carrera trooned at 26 and mogs basically everyone
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>>41743746
>Yeah maybe
Keep seething hun
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>>41743814
>Carmen Carrera mogs basically everyone
I had to look up who that is and lol? She has the worst horse face ive ever seen on a tranny

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Does "4chan doomerism" actually result in fewer hons?
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>>41743500
She's trying her best
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>>41743203
I'd rather try, and even if I'm the fakest, ugliest tranny I wouldn't have to be a man
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>>41742435
Isn't this Noel Fielding
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>>41742435
no, absolutely not, back in the early days that might have actually been true, but that was cos there were real genuine trans girls that transitioned without a community pushing them to do it or they fomo
they all transitioned or were in the stages of doing it before the board was even created, and they were at least somewhat invested in women dominated spaces
this changed over time, and it seems to have led to a board that is now dominated by a community that has stronger ties to manosphere and incel stuff, with little connection to ppl in womens spaces, and the majority transition in an atmosphere with a community that pressures fomo and competition to see who is the worst and the most masculine
to say that current 4chan results in fewer hons would be to lie and endorse delusions
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>>41745841
yeah but noel fielding now

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You'll never be 10% as hot as them troons, just give up lol.
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if you're skinny and don't have terrible proportions, being 10% as hot as that is pretty achievable
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>>41745831
troons can aim for the much lower bar the remake set, at least
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What about 9%? 8.5%?

So like I think it would be fun to fag out but I feel super shamefull about it but like should i but a dress and a cock cage and tights or no?

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If we all have our minds downloaded into a virtual reality, then anything we do to transition will be redundent
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they shut you down over energy concerns. And don't view you as a real person anymore
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transition already is.
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ok but that's not going to happen

Why are cis women like this?
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>>41739255
The thing you have to understand is that cis women are literally incapable of logic and so fascism is very appealing to them
>>41744146
god this place basically speaks a different language
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>>41739255
He hates women tho?
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>>41741242
thats why he's cute
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>>41739843
yeah he would stuff you in a wood chipper and laugh i fucking hate pickmes
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>>41744225
>The thing you have to understand is that women are literally incapable of logic
Another hon melty jfc

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My best friend is a tech genius who became a tech millionare and transitioned. They (that's the pronouns they use) have a girlfriend who is very obviously with them for the money, but they are too autistic to see they are being used. I don't say anything because I don't think it's my business but it's kinda sad to see them being used. They don't even seem that happy so I feel like I should say something, but again, doesn't feel right. Would you say something?
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>>41745773
Are there tech millionaires in mumbai?
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>>41745797
Moving in to the big city from the slums of Delhi, saar?

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this is so hot
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>>41745589
why do i have to consider these freaks as my brothers. i wish i was mtf you dont see hunter schafer talking about her gock on podcasts
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>>41745687
It makes sense if he’s talking about it as a fear
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>>41745687
she literally walks around untucked and has worn outfits that emphasizes her gock and male proportions, people are just fine with it bcuz shes hot, passes and is fembrained


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