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I DARE you to name a game with worse dungeon design than this. Every single dungeon in PSII has the same obnoxious gimmick. Two or more floors that all link back and forth through dozens of staircases with an extremely high random encounter rate slowing all progress to a crawl.
Good fucking lord. I'd rather play Wizardry IV.
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>>3966659
>I'd rather play Wizardry IV.
No, you wouldn't.
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>>3967059
strong disagree
I can strongly appreciate pokemons goode use of multi-level labrynths
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>>3966659
>I DARE you to name a game with worse dungeon design than this
That's ez, Wizardry 6. And every Bethesda game after morrowind
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>>3966659
I had to use the faster movement speed patch for this to preserve my sanity.
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>>3974657
That's because Evolution is a Roguelite, so most of the level design is dependent on the rooms (though I swear there are rules to how certain rooms are placed).
Far Off Promise's main dungeons are static and have more purposeful designs, but the bonus dungeon doesn't have some of the more unique rooms from the first game, like the ones where you have to platform across. This is also the template for the first two dungeons in Worlds.

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>create original setting with a focus on tawdry sex appeal and grimdark edginess
>it's actually perfectly executed and has top notch atmosphere, narrative and characters
legitimately a 9/10
whether or not you like this game is how you separate the pretentious losers (ie RPGcodex and bedfellows) from true RPG enthusiasts
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>>3979795
>Bioware fanboys aren't very well red though, so you aren't going to get through to them.
>well red
Kek
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>>3979644
>in a gritty fantasy setting there are elves
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>>3979815
Yeah, just splattered with red.
The threat as thread typo was funnier, since the threat in Pern is called thread.
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>>3972856
Almost all of the magic and demon stuff is just Warhammer fantasy/40k mix with some aesthetic and naming changes. The main difference is that mortals can casually go into the demonspace, survive and even fight the demons there. (we don't talk about Kaldor Draigo). And the demonstuff isn't as much of a memetic hazard.
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Best game. I finished it twice. And I never finish games. Bioware peaked.

It's time we talked about the greatest RPG of all time.
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>>3982526
>Battle the Darkness of the Labia and build your own world
Alright, you got my attention.
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>>3982526
OldGames.ru seems to be okay with it. I remember it now - it kept crashing on my friend's computer after a few minutes and was unplayable because of that.
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ngl I kind of wanted to talk shit about it because it was actually fucking terrible

>>3983112
why would I care about the opinion of an ivan
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>>3983148
>why would I care about the opinion of an ivan
Cause you're okay with the opinion of retards by virtue of being on 4chan.

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Shiren the Wanderer celebrated its 30th anniversary a few days ago, so lets have a Mystery Dungeon thread. Which Shiren game is your favorite, and what would you want to see in Shiren 7?

And when the fuck is Shiren Asuka's translation patch getting finished?
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>>3976566
>If I can give items to the clerk what's the point of putting them on the floor like in the first game?
You can do shenanigans with scrolls/monster pots in most games with physical storages
>The info guy also says that items on the floor may disappear, how does that work?
Pretty sure that's stated pretty clearly, if you carry more than 125 items in your main inventory (including items inside pots) shit will start disappearing on the storehouse's floor. Old game pls understand
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getting the living piss beat out of me by shiren 2's main dungeon. i think it just feels harder than it really is because the lead-up to it is really easy (even the "hard" route of the material gathering portion of the game isn't that bad). but man, i got to the boss and he stomped me flat.
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>>3979142
Bosses in Shiren tend to be really harsh yeah, mostly cuz in any game not named Shiren 1 they have immunities to some of the most common cheese strats (iirc Shiren 2's Final Boss is inmune to fire damage)
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Are any of you autistic enough to capture every monster in shiren 2?
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>>3982399
Are (you) autistic enough to play Kaizo Shiren or that Shiren 2 Hack in moon runes?

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This game is a big fuck you to that trash CRPG copycat game called Underrail. Not only is Stoneshard twice as hard but it's actually fair. The entire game is intelligent in design. Once this game gets a full release there is literally no reason to waste thousands of hours into Underrail. Honestly, out of all the gay Indie RPG games, Stoneshard is the best one. Literally half the reviews people are crying over the difficulty. Oh, and no savescumming like a fucking coward either the game won't allow it.
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>>3965936
The dev is a slavoid drug addict stringing along people with a full release promise that'll never come true
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>>3965936
>play game
>takes fucking forever to get to the barn watching your little guy bounce around
>as soon as I approach the barn get swarmed by the bandits and die almost fucking instantly
>absolutely no way for me to get any position or cover
>reload and walk all the fucking way back. The walking takes forever.
>repeat this twice because I've already explored the rest of what I could find so surely I must be ready, get killed and sent on the runback both times
>try one more time, get dialogue from the "bandits" saying they were actually supposed to be there. Resolve quest with zero conflict
I have no goddamn idea what I did different but I spent nearly an hour doing this shit.
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STONES HARD haha
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>>3978540
I want you to work on a video game when drones and rockets are falling into your house.
You absolute fucking retard, void of any self-awareness and empathy.
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>>3983153
Development barely progressed before the war, but okay lol

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Has anyone here played through the entire Fallout series? The real one that is, not the Bethesda spinoffs.
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>>3978651
The combat in FO1+2 boils down to maxing your gun skill ASAP (usually, small guns) then spamming called shots to the eyes, which will crit and one shot the enemy (or deal massive damage to a boss). You can switch to energy guns later on but it doesn't really matter. You can only control one character and since this is a game where everyone has ranged weapons, there's not a lot you can do, positioning doesn't matter, there's no cover system, no prone, no overwatch etc. You just spam your strongest attack which is aimed shots to the eyes.

Play XCOM2, DOS2 etc if you want something more complex.
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>>3978651
no the combat doesnt really get better, i still prefer it over Bethesda god awful fps gunplay and trash enemy AI with hit scan weapons in fnv/f3
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>>3983101
>Play XCOM2
Don't play X-COM 2: Terror from the Deep. Play X-Com Files overhaul mod.
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>>3983116
dont play x com files jank, play Reaver's Harmony Megamod instead
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>>3966568
>mfw people shitting on Tactics without knowing what the future would bring

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No RPG will ever have gameplay as amazing as Morrowind.
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>>3981571
That's why I'm hoping the Skywind turns out good. I have an itch to replay Morrowind, but it goes away once I remember the combat is braindead simple. There's not much mods can do with the original either, since enemy animations and such weren't made for anything but "sit down and watch combat happen".
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>>3981571
if you actually believe this while having played the earlier ones you NEED to die.
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>>3980748
lol
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>>3981622
>>3981627
I had a lot of fun with it
dialogue in video games is never very good or interesting so I dont really care if its bad, so long as it isnt capcom-tier
the mechanics are fine; its not so complicated that playing it requires a ton of effort and focus, but not so braindead that you just pick a direction and button mash
so its about where I want it, for a live-action game
I prefer turn-based games, which can be as complicated as you like

>>3981629
im more excited for skyblivion, but im looking forward to both

>>3981665
so do the jews, but nobody is lifting their fingers
suffer, impotent goyim


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>>3983055
>the mechanics are fine; its not so complicated
They're enhanced or diminished according to the chosen difficulty mode. Difficulty makes "RPG mechanics" more pronounced.

Same applies to Morrowind, but to a lesser extent since Morrowind has fewer options on how to deal with challenges.

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Be honest and why /vrpg
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Laziest spam thread I’ve seen in months.
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>>3980428
Secret of evermore. Unique atmosphere.
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Trails FC and SC. They're comfy and have great music.
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>>3982969
You can just type "bump", OP.

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>play as Evil character
>dude is just some bitch jobber who dies trying to avenge his friends
>wonder why everyone on vee arr pee gee hates him

>play as Good character
>this dude forces himself into my party
>can't tell him "fuck off, we're full"
>if you're nice to him at all he thinks you're tryna smash
>doesn't drop it at all because he's in love with you or something
>look up how to kick him out
>even reddit thinks he's a sex pest
Okay fine, I concede. As a degenerate even I don't like this dude and even Gale is less of a problem.
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>>3975889
>and the stupid fucks removed it in favor of a gay male squid.
it is kind of the most obvious twist in the world
like, it almost caught me off guard because i wanted to say it couldn't be that simple
but it was
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>>3967767
>evil
>good
Do not exist in 5e and certainly not in 5.5e. Moral relativism is now the ruling doctrine at JotC as long as you don't question the shoah.
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>>3968684
idk when i played he didn't do anything ever and stayed in camp

idk what you guys do, just be a bit rude to him and make him insist on coming and then he's basically out of the story entirely
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>>3979654
>just be a bit rude to him and make him insist on coming and then he's basically out of the story entirely
*Halsin gives you the fuck-me stare at the celebration*
Anon, I wanted to talk about our… connection. I know you feel it too. Do not be alarmed. Many men are attracted to me, as are many women… it is the way of nature.
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>>3975751
>anon has put a penis on an elf woman
disgusting

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Finally, I found a good jrpg.
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>>3982271
That sums up just about everything Camelot makes.
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>>3982167
you made this thread already you psycho
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>>3982167
Based
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>>3982167
Golden Sun is pretty decent. Fun to play through, the dialogue spamming sucks though, but I guess that is with most rpgs.
Also it is kind of easy, once you understand the mechanics, which maybe overwhelming at first.

Try Tales of Phantasia. Has easier mechanics, is more active (as in more animations during combat)... it's kind of heavy in dialogue, but ok rpg as well.
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Is /vrpg/ full of boomers whose whole argument is based on "I played this as a kid or something so it must be good" or something?
That said this reeks of a /v/ thread, very-very lacking in effort to elaborate anything and just made to bait engagements

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What are your favorite crpgs?
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>>3982363
and how does this relate to narcissism or online discussion?
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>>3981607
I truly think that Neverwinter Nights 1, with all its expansions and multiplayer a good group of committed role players, is one of the best gaming experiences you can have. Many underrated hidden gem modules and modifications exist made from 20+ years ago to just a couple weeks ago, on various websites and forums, just waiting to be downloaded.
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>>3981607
Cataclysm The Last Generation
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>>3982356
wasn't talking to you
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>>3981855
>Not an rpg
Kys

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Are there any good rpgs with difficult and impactful choices?
Most rpgs ive played that have had an emphasis on player choice tend to only have choices that just boil down to "do you want to be good? or do you want to be EVIL!" with little to no moral complexity.
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>>3978503
Witcher games
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>>3978503
fucking liara or tali in me3
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>>3978503
Yes Later
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>>3978503
Age of Decadence
Alpha Protocol
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>>3978503
>Most rpgs ive played that have had an emphasis on player choice tend to only have choices that just boil down to "do you want to be good? or do you want to be EVIL!" with little to no moral complexity.
nee vegas is one of the rpgs that isn't like that.....most of the time at least. some quests definitely do just offer you two paths

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>enemy I can't kill in two turns before getting getting hit with an insta-kill attack
>here's an unavoidable fight with that enemy plus another basic goon
How the fuck am I supposed to win?
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>>3980208
by not watching dogma
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>>3980230
>youtuber made an essay
Like I give a shit. I tried it because I saw a thread on /v/. Besides, if I watched it I wouldn't be here asking for help.
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>>3980208
You have to get rid of their limbs they use to attack or go for a headshot. A lot of the time you wanna avoid combat altogether.

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I honestly thought I was going to drop this a few hours in and somehow it keeps getting better and better. Combat is still take or leave it, but the sheer number of zones/enemies/secrets just keeps surprising me.
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>>3978128
There are kingsfieldlikes coming or are already out afaik
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>>3978128
I started with the actual KF1 and it was fully capable of being engaging despite being so primitive (the short playtime helps though). Although it helped that I was already habituated to the old Fromsoft 3D controls from Armored Core, as in strafe with the shoulders and elevation with the triggers.
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>>3978522
The two that I'm waiting for don't have proper release dates yet: Queen's Domain, and Hark the Ghoul.
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>>3978128
It's really great. I bounced off it hard when I first got it but I came back a few months later and fell in love. Currently working my way back up to it from the early games, so far 1 and 2 haven't disappointed (except for their final levels, jesus christ). As I go through the series the more I realize that everything I loved in dark souls came from king's field, and everything I didn't like that eventually took over was the new shit.
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shadow tower is better

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Be honest, a realitic bloober rpg party character would be too OP in most rpg systems?

Or how most normal npcs and criminal bandit gangs react to such character.

Pic related is basically how it could work.
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Bloober = blobber + boobs
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>>3982323
what, so a character that is 4 characters in one? sounds like olimar or pokemon trainer from smash
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>>3982323
Misread at a glance and got really excited it said "boober" character. But I see now it's another boring thread...


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