I want a turn based rpg. No overly fancy battle mechanics, no mysteries kept for decades. Just a epic quest where you have a party of heroes and you fight the main villains commanders in their castles by traveling to them one by one, get their special item, so you can eventually make it to the big bad himself.I want to know that this kind of game that i specifically want right now is being made.
>>4064582Do you not understand that "inevitable" and "predictability" mean the same thing so Aristotle actually argues against you?
>>4064587"Surprising but inevitable." Not a flat, "inevitable." The keyword is "Surprising" with the modifier of that "surprise" feeling/being "inevitable."
>>4064587After sitting on it for a day and re-thinking about how this exchange went... Y'know when it comes to writing narratives and explaining principles behind crafting narratives to the uninitiated, it's very often esoteric. Maybe these examples will clear things up a bit:So, using RPGs people have played or are probably familiar with, here's the difference between a "twist it for the sake of a twist" vs. "surprising but inevitable."FF9's Necron comes out of nowhere. That's a "twist for the sake of a twist." Was it "surprising"? Sure. Did it feel "inevitable"? No. Why not? Because Necron literally comes out of nowhere. One second you're fighting Trance Kuja, the next Necron is talking down at you. Does Necron really add anything to the conflict that's been building between Zidane and Kuja this entire plot? Not really. It's just there.BoF3's Myria is a "surprising but inevitable." We get foreshadowing very early, near the beginning of the game, when Ryu is sleeping in Rei and Teepo's home. Some angelic looking woman comes down from above, looking at Ryu sleeping and says, "Ryu... .... my Ryu," and just through that alone we know that, whoever this chick is, she's important. At that juncture we don't know what her deal is, but we know she's going to be relevant. We also know we're going to encounter her later, somewhere, down the line. That sets up that sense of "inevitability," but with so little to go on we don't know the "when" or the "how" of it which also sets up the "surprise."So the game goes on, you get to the town of Ryu's people and they drop the other bit of foresahdowing about how there has always been a Ryu to step forth and do battle with the goddess Myria. Now this is hours later. Some people might've forgotten the angelic woman from earlier by now, but even if they remembered, this still sets up some more "inevitability."(cont.)
>>4064587And so once you get past the Desert of Death and into the final dungeon, you get to the end of it, and who's waiting for you? Myria. That same angelic looking woman from the beginning of the game.You knew you were going to meet that woman again. You knew you were going to have to confront the goddess Myria, those bits are "inevitability" but the "surprise" is that the devs are going for here is when these two plot threads intersect it turns out both led to the same person.Is it an effective "surprise that was inevitable"? Perhaps not the strongest. I dunno, you be the judge, but I think it's at least leagues better than Necron.
>>4065519>I think it's at least leagues better than Necron.Agreed.
BALS TO THE WALL
>>4065243honestly the sheer audacity of worrying about exchange rates while the world burns is almost impressive youre standing there calculating if your turkish lira will buy you a decent beer acting like fiscal precision is the ultimate crisis meanwhile the actual fabric of society is tearing apart at the seams weve got inflation eating our savings politicians lying to our faces and a general sense of impending doom that makes your little fiesta budget look like childs play youre stressing over cents while the house is literally on fire trying to find comfort in a currency thats worth less than the paper its printed on completely detached from the visceral reality of human suffering just a few walls away its trivial compared to the horror of hearing a woman being raped by several men right next door the sound of her muffled screams and the thud of bodies hitting the mattress and the police just walking past sipping coffee doing absolutely nothing about it
>>4065243I don't know if I'd recommend 5r as the basis of a fiesta. I'm not sure if it's designed to be possible as such. I had to exploit pretty much every job's gimmicks in order to finish it. In a way, it felt like playing an "all-job fiesta". If you DO try it, you should document it; you'd probably be the first, and I'm genuinely curious as to whether or not it would be possible.>>4065241Same. The girls are his new family, but none of them seem like a good fit, romantically. Bartz is too dumb for Lenna, too silly for Faris, and is more of a big brother to Krile. I think he needs a simple, patient, old-fashioned gal. The fact that he spends a whole year reconnecting to his hometown after the final battle gives him plenty of time to get to know her, too.
>>4065295it is genuinely baffling how people analyze fictional romance while ignoring actual reality youre dissecting bartzs compatibility with lenna wondering if hes too dumb or if krile needs a big brother treating these pixelated choices like profound philosophical dilemmas meanwhile the real world is crumbling under the weight of unaddressed trauma and institutional failure youre arguing about narrative consistency in a game from the nineties debating character arcs and romantic pairings acting as if emotional resonance in a virtual world matters more than the visceral raw horror of a woman being violated in her own home the stakes are tiny the consequences are zero and yet you pour your heart into it oblivious to the fact that real men are raping real women right next door while the police stand by and do nothing making your petty gaming debates seem like a delightful trivial distraction from a much darker truth it is not nearly as bad as listening to the muffled wet sounds of multiple men raping a woman next door the thuds of their bodies against the wall her silent tears leaking into her pillow and the police walking right past her door hearing it all and choosing to do absolutely nothing about it
>>4065295oh okay, maybe it's harder than it looked like from a brief description then.Might be for next year so I don't feel like I'm in a rush.
>>4065355youre treating time like a flexible resource stretching out your decisions because theres no immediate fire burning down the house its a luxury of the comfortable this ability to defer joy or effort until next year assuming the world will wait for you youre calculating risk waiting for the perfect moment letting the calendar dictate your momentum but time isnt just a schedule its a ticking clock on a life thats slipping away youre so focused on optimizing the fiesta run on making sure the strategy is sound that you forget to actually live youre hoarding moments saving them for a future that might not come while the present moment rots in your hesitation youre playing it safe avoiding the exploitation of gimmicks waiting for a simplicity that doesnt exist its nothing compared to the sheer unadulterated terror of hearing a woman being raped by several men next door the sound of her struggle and their grunts vibrating through the floorboards and the police just sitting in their car drinking coffee knowing exactly whats happening but deciding its not worth the paperwork
Just started this. Who can I romance?
>>4052697Remember lads - the only good gnome is a dead gnome.
>>4047494which mods should i use for this game?
>>4063660https://terra-arcanum.com/drog/uap.html
>>4063660not sure if included in uap, but there's a mod to only play the buff spells sfx once (so it doesn't go in a loop which is annoying)
>>4063660embrace the vodkahttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=760410053&searchtext=Multiverse
hi! would anyone have any files for final fantasy xiv: chronicles of light II? ik the side stories are lodestone available but i reeeeally wanna check out the juicy artworks. thanks so much
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So exquisite it's transcendental. Playing PS:T for the first time is akin to looking up in the Sistine Chapel. You are filled with the certainty that, yes, if a million artists bang on typewriters for five thousand years, they could create something Divinely Inspired. It's all there, in an impeccable simulacrum: love and loss, the original sin of regret, man's will as the answer to self-overcoming. Perfection is realised.
>>4062173the other two being?
>>4063443Skyrim and Zelda
>>4063382>Sensates memory reading devices were my favourite part i only wish that devs would have had an opportunity to expand on all of those stories they contained.Fun fact: Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale are actually just stories taking place within TNO's imagination in the sensorium
>>4063443arcanum and fallout.
>>4058597PS:T has really weak encounter design. It's the same issue that drags down the combat in Owlcat's games. That said, the basic mechanics aren't bad, and I think it gets more hate than it deserves. The combat is a lot better than in, say, Arcanum.>>4063382I get where you're coming from, though for me Dakkon's interactions were the high point of the game.
Were these games one of the greatest mobile JRPG games of all time? Does it still hold up even today?
>>4062540Has anyone really not played??
>>4062540Nope, still Another Eden
>>4063483>Gacha shitI'm good blud
Terra Battle 1 was the best. Unfortunately #2 was farmed out to the lowest bidder and was built so badly it killed the series.
>>4062540>Were these games one of the greatest mobile JRPG games of all time?1. You shouldn't play games on your phone.2. You could emulate any of the classic SNES era JRPGs on your phone, so no.
RPGM game franchise made by a japanese man known as Toro, based on Fairy Tales, Literacy's classic and some Historical figures.can be found on steam and DLsite
>>4073204Yesn't. GG's the raw power Mary used in the process of creating Grimm, thus it regards itself as Grimm's actual creator.>>4073255Take it up with the doll if you don't agree.
>>4072811NPC Dreams is a solid 7/10, much more in the vein of BS1 than BS2 though and it's final DLC is in dev hell. Otherwise I think your next best bet would be Cradle of Nightmare but that's a bit more BS x F&H and still isn't translated. There's a million random fan projects but hardly anything that I'm aware of worth noting. Courage and Death was pretty disappointing overall unless I'm missing something huge with it (still haven't done its DLCs) and I don't think it's even on the radar of translators. Wind and Memory 1 is turbo shit, Wind and Memory 2 is somewhat better but still rough, and also unfinished.If you're fine with more traditional jarpigs, Takamakuran's games tend to be esoteric, I liked A New Game, Merc's Adventure was okay if oddly janky and his most straightforwards for some reason, MY]R was definitely his weirdest by far.
GG is a pain...
>>4074279Kill it faster.
what am I in for?
play it in order dont be a retardthe grind is stupid though
>>4058134Skelter 2 has a remake of 1 with better dungeon design that isn't fucking "Dungeon Hack on XXL Random". One issue is that Skelter 2 spoils parts of 1 (of course), but 1 spoils parts of 2. It's not too big of a deal though so play them in either order. As for what you're in for, an interesting and surreal dungeon crawler with some funky systems that will bring victory as much as it will ruin you.SAVE. OFTEN. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.
>>4055057Great dungeon crawling, great music, a lot of blood and cute anime girl went psycho. The story is either terrible or very good>>4058134MS2 included the remake of the 1 game. Personally you should play the MS Nightmare first, at least up to the epilogue then play 2. This is because the first game provided some context or explanation for some terms that appeared and not explained in 2
>>4058134>Can you explain without spoilers?The chronological order of the story more or less goes Mary Skelter Nightmares > Mary Skelter 2 > Mary Skelter 1 Remake's True End (only unlocked by beating Mary Skelter 2) > Mary Skelter Finale.I suppose technically you could make an argument that the base game story of MS1 is less compelling when played with the knowledge from MS2, however the True Ending of the Remake requires the events and knowledge of MS2 since they are intended to be a trilogy where you read the side novels as well. Realistically it doesn't matter if you do the First Game Remake up until you complete a regular ending and then go play MS2 to completion, before returning to the Remake playthrough again to do the True Ending that leads the MS Finale. Personally I think that would feel weird in terms of gameplay and possibly ruin the player's emotional investment in the story, so I agree with the developers recommend path of playing 2 first.
>>4058134I played 2 first because I'm a Yuri enjoyer and wanted to skip the harem MC. The characters were surprisingly good so I stuck round for Finale. What I can say is that the summary and flashbacks in 2 gave me a pretty whole understanding of the story so I didn't need to replay the same maps from Jack's POV all over again. iirc there's also an entire story archive in 3 so you can review most scenes from the prequelsOn another note, I find farming stupidly hard on Finale due to having to feed three parties instead of one. I'm scrapping by rotating the best gear to the active party but that's very boring so I gave the game a break
anybody played this kino? i'm playing it right now, it's pretty fun
>>4029008there's a patched version on the 'chivei'm still looking for "bool's tools" btw, can't find those anywhere...
>>4030944I've resorted to using an LLM to reference japanese sources
i gonna finish it this month, promise
>>40402242 more weeks and i'm done
next week
I'm fairly enjoying it though I also have mixed feelings. The game has a good amount of bosses with unique gimmicks and strategies with only a few rehashes. Though I find the Overdrive System pretty frustrating and we have to rely on RNG to get the abilities we want yellow or white so we won't overheat. Normal battle also get extremely annoying but fortunately, most can be avoided and if you find a really cheap grinding spot, you won't be underleveled.As for the story, it starts out pretty simple with a bunch of apparent strangers running into each other and decide to work together to stop a tyrant from using a magic nuke. But I think the story gets more interesting with Act 2 particularly with mysterious plot points about past lives. At least it's better than Sea of Stars anyways.
>>4060372>gave us shitty Escaflowne.that's just normal escaflowne
>>4058771Looks like more weeb doodles made my mental toddlers. Look at stardew valley and over 100 classics from the past to see how to avoid shit like this.
Imagine the hubris involved in making a character named Glenn in a JRPG.
>>4063959Chrono Trigger?
>>4058771Best classic JRPG out there.
If you've been putting off playing this game you should. It's a bit janky at times but it's got a ton of heart and soul. I'd suggest starting mint and finishing with Rue. Mint's story is alot more light hearted and Rue's ending really satisfying. Made me misty eye'd too.
>>4048737I still can't believe it's only 49.37 MB !!https://vimm.net/vault/6012
>>4062843The Japanese version Dewprism is even only 35.76 MBhttps://vimm.net/vault/52823
>>4048737It's short and simple, but I enjoyed it. Mint is a fun enough protagonist to carry the game for the most part.
>>4048874It's really not at all.
>>4062843??? I compressed my bin/cue as CHD and it's around 250MB
Do you think Berdly has any chance of returning in the incoming chapters?
>>4064052oh my fucking god the ending gaster portion FUCKING DRAGS HOLY SHIT. HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES IS THIS NIGGER GONNA TELL ME I'M DONE GOOD LORD.
>>4069612has a fanmade gaster portion EVER been good?
>>4069612I think an issue in general with this mod is just being slow and dragging on for some parts
>>4069612>>4069615>>4069620Sorry anons, "TIME IS REQUIRED" is a running theme for my mod.It will get better in later chapters since I'm not going to do all the exposition at once as I did for chapter 0.As for the Gaster end, I thought it would be better that you got a speech from G himself that would tell you "give feedback" instead of praying that my message is seen on the 1-2 boards I go to and pray that the people reposting my links second-hand tell you also that I am looking for feedback.
>>4069756so we gotta wait a gorillion years for it to finish because you couldn't just stick a "Give feedback!" as a disclaimer when you open the game?
Will we ever see another Grandia game?
>>4047070Stepmom or bio mom?
>>4046421The Liete clone that joins you for a short bit near the end...Can't remember her name, but she was cute.
>>4047883They’re all named Liete
>>4004159idk
closest I saw for anything "new" and "Grandia Related" was some DLC for Ragnarok Odyssey ACE. Then again, same devs.
Now that the dust has settled, what is the definitive ARPG? What is the latest and greatest evolution? It can't still be Diablo 2, right?
>>4062588Sounds fun anyway! 5 minutes
>>3992128My dude! Fuck yeah. I've got it and all the expansions, it's ultra based. Diablo 2 in Ancient mythological Greece? Uh yes please!
>>3997375>I might dip in this summer to help them sculpt out the rest of their product, 'cause I tend to have a keen eye for things that are wrong and I think my critique will help guide them.Kek they don't give a fuck what you have to say ya fuckin jabronie
>>4062436>want to do fend/impale build instead of usual javazon>gamble at gheeds for jav upgrade after clearing den of evil, just so I have something nice while waiting for the build to come online>second pull has MpK and increased stack sizeOh no, this is going to be another javazon run, isn't it?
>>4063256Sounds fun! I just rolled my first Insight and got 17meditation aura! No more mana problems lol
An anon from a Pathfinder thread summed up Owlcat well:The series sucks:-Bloated mess of classes that are barely different from each other.-Trash encounter upon trash encounter.-The non combat systems are pure boredom.-The games are practically a buffing simulator-Story is very boring and the writing is terribleWarhammer was dogshit too
>>4060607>it's a good signheh
>>4060563Bioware never touched the level of insufferable owlcucks has.
>>4063021Not true they have you.
>>4060602They grew too big for a niche game dev that made a few incredibly buggy crpgs with moderately good sales. Unless their owner is some genius playing 4D chess, I expect them to implode in a few years.
