So Square Enix scrapped Flames of Fate and started over. What do you think of the new Dragon Quest 12?
>>3991559Looks pretty honestly. Except for the character designs. Who the fuck made that, and who the fuck though it was good?
>>3991559Modern Squeenix cannot create good games. They are too busy attempting to appease the non-existing entity called "general audience" and fellating investors.It will be another dumbed down action game with a DQ paint job sloppily put over it. Paid shills will praise it as start of "new era of DQ" or some shit and you'll see the usual Hololive members playing it while pretending to have fun.
Any tips for winning the roulette jackpot quest for that orphan girl in Octagonia?
>>3995634iirc you just have to save enough money to put a chip on every square and repeat that over and over.
>>3991559i was hyped for an edgier, more serious style of dragon quest :( we've had like 30 years of whimsical silly fantasy
What rpg are you currently playing anon?
>>3997503>level 40>open a chest even though they contain only pain and never anything useful>die instantly
>>3997689shmups mostly. i think ive been frustrated with how slowly most RPGs take to get to the fun part. my favourites are things like etrian odyssey or kaga fire emblem but theyre never getting new entries.
>>3998623>shmupsName a couple. I don't think I've ever touched the genre.>how slowly most RPGs take to get to the fun partTrue. Morrowind only starts being fun once you hit the like 40 hour mark.>etrian odyssey or kaga fire emblemWhat's the gameplay style of them?
>>3998643i got into the genre through zeroranger which i think is a great starting point. other ones i like are blue revolver, ikaruga, devil blade reboot, graze counter gm, and layer section. i also started getting through metal slug recently which i feel run and guns are basically just shmups anyway.morrowind is great its probably the last rpg i got really into (only played for the first time last year). but yes i think the first 40 hours before i became a crazy kill god was from the roleplay/imagination part not because the games are actually fun.etrian is just a very snappy very thoughtful turn based jrpg. i like all the party building and planning and then learning the enemy patterns and executing, it kind of feels like monster hunter but as a jrpg. fire emblem are strategy rpgs which play a lot faster than fft/tactics ogre/disgaea which ive found kind of too boring and slow. they have a lot of interesting depth in how you use unit types/the importance of position/etc which i find fun and challenging.
>>3997751#yeah
It's really easy to abuse the crafting and weapon fusion system though if you know what you're doing
>>3989637I've been stuck on the bat guy for 27 years.
>>3989637The two bad things about it is the abrupt ending and map shenanigans
Thanks for the bump, I beat this the other day. It was a little too easy on normal modo but I stand by the OP, it was a kinoge. I liked it more than Ys Seven.>>3993288What difficulty? The bosses in this game are so easy I hardly even remember. Was that the optional boss in the mines?If you're struggling at all remember this trick when fusing: buy short swords/leather armor. Fuse with materials for stat boosts. Then fuse those stat boosted short swords into your most powerful weapon at the time. You'll spend a tiny fraction of gold to basically max out all stats of your most powerful weapon. I almost recommend against this if you're playing normal because it basically broke the game.
>>3991333Yes but it's easy to miss. You can only do it at the fishing village smith. All the other smiths only upgrade weapons with mats.
Not sure why so many are complaining about the graphics, when have Ys games ever been known for graphical fidelity? Posers>>3998842The map was indeed bullshit. It's not properly programmed. You basically have to hug every wall if you want 100%. I spent hours hugging walls at the very end of the game because it was stuck at 99.6%...
>in order to hunt down the BBEG you have to go to a planet where evil megarcorporation researches almost extinct ancient mind controlling aliens, a planet where evil megarcorporation researches mind controlling alien, find a mind controlling alien expert on extinct ancient mind controlling aliens and then a planet where you learn that the true BBEG is in fact an ancient mind controlling alien who killed said extinct ancient mind controlling aliensHow the FUCK did they get away with this?
>>3938636How could a hypothetical remake improve the enemy specter? Should he have much less screen time? No big speeches?
>>3938636Idk how ME1 got away with it but Bioware couldn't keep getting away with it forever. If ME3 were written to an ME1 standard for example the player would be presented an option for Femshep to bang her own clone during the Citadel DLC. Why even bother playing Citadel DLC as a Femshep if you can't bang her evil Femshep twin sister? It is a farce, a total character assassination retcon. Why the Hell wouldn't Renegade Femshep bang her own clone? She would, you just know. But we are not offered any dialogue options to romance her. Instead Bioware caved into the political pressure and offered us some dialogue options to gay it up with Major Alenko as a regular Shepard. That is the difference between what Bioware could "get away with" in 2007 VS. in 2012>>3995103Saren Arterius doesn't really need much improvement, he is already a pretty based main villain for an RPG. Adding more screentime or subtracting any screentime would probably lessen his presence somehow. He is like Darth Maul or Boba Fett, in that less-is-more. What makes these characters mysteriously appealing is that they don't hog the screen too much forcing you to appreciate whatever little time you get to spend together
>"Noveria report is away, Commander. Want me to patch you through to the Council?">"Patch them through, Joker.">"Setting up the link now, Commander.">"Is this report accurate, Commander!? You found RACHNI on Noveria?!">"Found them and WIPED THEM OUT!! Do you take pleasure in committing genocide, Shepard!?">"Depends on the species, Turian.">"COMMANDER! You are addressing a member of the Citadel Council!! YOU WILL SHOW THE PROPER RESPECT DAMNIT!">"That's quite the hypocritical demand, considering you haven't shown Humans the proper respect.">"You dare question our integrity? Explain yourself at once!">"I fabricated the Noveria mission reports, to test your honor, Councilors">"You... did what...?>"That's correct. After I finished banging the Matriarch to death I had an easy choice to make. It seemed obvious in the heat of the moment that genocide is generally considered an outdated unethical form of behavior. Thus I unleashed the Rachni upon the Galaxy. You're welcome.">"ARE YOU INSANE!?">"No.">"You... found RACHNI on Noveria?? And you RELEASED the Queen!?"Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>"HAY is this where I sign up to shoot Arch Angel?">"This is it kid. But it's no joke.">"You shitting me, son? I grew up on Omega! I know how to use a gun!">"So does Arch Angel.">"WHOA! What..? EAT SHIT, ROOKIE!">"Likewise, loser.">"What the fuck? WHAT THE FUCK did you just say to me? You little bitch! I'll have you know I just graduated my class at the top of N7 Special Operations! Breh! I've been involved on numerous top secret raids against dangerous Batarain terrorist scum! I boast over 3,000 confirmed alien kills! I'm literally like, rated the top sniper in the System's Alliance Armed Forces! Alright? You faggots are nothing to me but 3 more targets I might murk! If I wanted I could eliminate all you tonight with the utmost precision our Galaxy has ever known! MARK MY WORDS!">"Excuse me?">"You think you can get away with saying that kind of shit on Omega? As we speak my network of backup support squadrons are monitoring our conversation! You're fucking dead, soldier! I can be anywhere, anytime! I AM A GALACTIC STORM! I can kill you 3 jerks in 700 ways! Besides! I just spent 50 credits on this discount pistol and I want to fire it at a Turian Renegadeer has-been dead nigger today!">"N7 is a very small group, kid. If you were one of us I'd probably know who you are.">"PFFT! You're just another nobody! LOL!! I know the type! You're just fronting at talking tough! Aren't you?">"Whatever. We don't care. If you want to die, feel free to sign yourself up. We won't stop you!"Egypt /vrpg/ anon are you monitoring ITT? This thread is about to die. Good news. I got laid, very hot action last evening. And here you thought I was going soft on you? Except I have to ask. Why? Why the fuck do I keep having nightmares at least 4 times per year in which I battle your Egyptian Sphinx in a battle of riddle wits. When I win I get 1 wish granted, but when I typically lose I DIE! DEAD! WTF? GAME OVER! Does every Egyptian man suffer similar dreams? Makes an American wonder
>>3938636IT IS ACTUALLY OFFICIAL THE ULTIMATE HAPPENING HAS LEAKED!! BEAUTIFUL PLAYABLE FEMALE KROGAN CONFIRMED AS THE MASS EFFECT 4 PROTAGANIST!!Source: pic related! what's the matter? can't stand the sight of a strong Krogan woman? say hello to Urdnot Shrex, Commanding Officer of the Normandy SR-3
I love classic jrpgs, octopath traveler, bravely default, dragon quest. All these series are great modern representation of the genre and I wonder why other companies haven't looked at their success and thought why don't they have a side team work on some turn based games. I'm currently playing through dragon quest 9. It is super fun, what jrpg are you guys playing and what companies would you like to see make an attempt at a classic jrpg?
>>3996411TF2 would probably be better as a tactics strategy game
>>3998844Oooo ff tactics style, engineer sets a turret up, heavy low damage but can fire lots. God that sounds awesome, would work really well.
>>3996219>classic jrpgs>octopath traveler, bravely defaultLOL
>>3998856Classic style moron. Like games that have the same spirit with actual turn based combat and not flashy bullshit 3d models and action combat that pretends to be an rpg
>>3996226I think they don't do this because1. They're worried about "damaging the brand". Companies are always worried that their precious IP will get a reputation for being low quality, like if someone sells a branded t-shirt for too cheap. It leads to the design-by-committee and analysis paralysis problems when they make new first-party products (the actual games, show, etc. that the merch references) where they overanalyze how the brand at large will be impacted by small details that no one gives a fuck about.2. They can alternatively pay low-budget teams to make gacha games and microtransaction-heavy spinoffs, which produce much higher monetary returns. So almost no business does what you're describing for that reason.
I don't think I've ever seen someone shit on this game who wasn't a complete actual sub human. I don't even like the game, but nobody ever addresses it's real issues, people just poison the well of the discussion with shit that's either blatantly false or stems from the roots of having a skill disorder. (Skill issue, as it's more commonly known) Why is DS2 like that, why does it filter retards so god damn hard? (they probably didn't even play the game, but played SOFTS LMAO)
>>3993953that's a pretty strange way of looking at it. The two games will be compared more closely since it's a sequel though. Ds1's pacing doesn't suffer as much from the quantity issue though. Lots of Ds2 bosses feel unnecessary, and generic monster placement is more messy too, as most people have pointed out
>>3993960I was referring to you playing both games one after another. No wonder you got enough of it.
>>3990471Yes it does, turn your character while standing still to see it.>I can't feel it at all in ER.Well that's to be expected from a sequel.
>>3963552I hated the first half but loved the second half
>>3920492Nooooo the wholesome Dark Souls 2 affirmation thread where we all tell ourselves how actually good it is and how valid and not retarded we are for enjoying it is about to die : (I hope no Dark Souls 2 fan kills xemselves while it's down...
Releases 18th February 2027 on PlayStation 5, PC, and Xbox Series X/S.English VAs have all been re-cast. Golden content is confirmed included in the base game.New live stream on 18th June 2026 to reveal more info about the game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1osdiOAkBKc
>>3997929Wait until you see bethesda
>>3998119at least they add new shit, unlike Skyrim
>>3997929>how many versions of this dogshit game are they going to make?This is a full remake. Not a remaster.
>>3998537What does that even mean?
>>3998774It’s a continuum. Port < Remaster < RemakePort = the exact same game but now on another platform, perhaps with small added bit of content. Think idk Undertale on the Nintendo Switch, you know what a port is. Remaster = generally a graphical touch up, some added features, and rebalancing, but still essentially the same game as the original. Think Pokemon Brilliant Diamond / Shining Pearl (on the lower end) and (on the higher end) FFXII: the Zodiac AgeRemake = a completely remade version of the game, with substantive changes to mechanics, completely different A/V elements (done in a different engine) and much more work than the others. Think Metroid Zero Mission, or Pokemon Alpha Sapphire / Omega Ruby
Why is it that RPGs with good gameplay never have a good story and vice versa? Why can't we have both? It's almost like a curse or something.
>>3998603As >>3998739 says, the reason to pick a game as a medium is to communicate themes through player agency and consequences. The board game Monopoly is a classic example.
>>3998603>Why is it that RPGs with good gameplay never have a good story and vice versa? Why can't we have both?That would imply /vrpg/ is ready to admit that some RPG has had a good story...
>>3998795Xenogears, terrible RPG, good story.
>>3998797Isn't that a JRPG, so presumably your role is chosen for you. And their story.
>>3998734>>3998603this is just a damn stealth /tv/ thread isn't it?
I have seen that Final Fantasy Tactics is really liked. I gave a look at the recently released version present on Steam, but there's people suggesting the War of The Lions one. What's the differences? There's a version playable on Duckstation that is worthy the try?
>>3992976I've been playing through it at work since I never finished it on my own as a kid.Its very gud, lots of kino moments. Though I did here there's some JP only VN scenes from the PSX version that did get ported to the ivalice chronicles.
>>3993167Archer and mechanik are actually really neat ranged options when not having to deal with cast times. With enough speed you can even do one turn charge attacks.
>>3993341>Animals have no God!K i n o
Also I highly recommend going into the options and setting "Navigation message" to OFF. It's the pointless message box that pops up when you start or end your turn.
>>3998054>With enough speed you can even do one turn charge attacks.Eh?
The Last Good RPG
>>3976975is this safe?
This game is really good. Just beat Fiery Idol on my third try. This does a much better job immersing you in the mechanics gradually than FFXIII, which dripfed them. It feels like a project that spun out of the same company retreat that established the post XII Ivalice stuff. If you study Square's output you can see that there are points where they have a single theme and that usually corresponds to a company wide vacation or retreat: KH and FFX's tropical themes are both from a successful beach party they did in 98ish.
>>3991080And same writer as FFXVI.
dis nigga jerks of cows
I got filtered by the disc 1 end boss rush trio on 360 when I was a kid, did they fix BR in the remaster because it was so annoying, why punish for exploring the game I never understood this.
What does /vrpg/ think about Rinoa Heartilly from Final Fantasy VIII?
>>39934133rd and 2nd worst for me. (only behind Hallway Simulator XIII fans)
>>3986815Best girl
>>3986815What Final Fantasy girl has the best looking Feet and why is it Lunafreya?
>>3994096>ShipmentsSo this doesn't include the digital sales, right?
>>3994910>>3994044Beyond based
Tim Gayn's ludokino masterpiece
temple of elemental evil was greyhewk not forgotten realms? mind blown might have to cop it on steam
>>3997709
>>3997709>temple of elemental evil was greyhewk not forgotten realms? mind blownHow did you not know this?
>>3979737>They are narrative vehicles whose goodness and badness are decided by the characters, setting, prose and plot first
>>3997672Finally, a reason to play.
Let's focus on the Lunatic Pandora.It's a monolithic superweapon. Very different from the "WEAPONS" that appeared on the world map in FF7. It even has a force field that the Ragnarok had to force it's way through. *cue battle theme: Force Your Way*The difference is that the all-caps "WEAPONS" in FF7 are spawned by the planet as a kind of self-defense or immune response. Presumably to attack Jenova; although the world building around that is kind of shaky in my opinion.Similar concepts to this was the Giant of Babil in FF4. And of course SIN in FF10.
FF8 didn't have a "dark" element. Instead it had a "poison" element. I never really noticed how the Holy/Poison GFs were both machines. Alexander is a giant mecha. Doomtrain (aka Glasya Labolas) is a train. Naturally, Glasya Labolas is obtain through Solomon's Ring, because it is a goetia demon in the Key of Solomon. But it's weird it's a train on Esthar, when all the train tracks are on Galbadia instead. Unless you count the "Sea side station" just before the salt lake, or salt flats, which coincidently is where you fight the undead boss Abaddon. With Edea in your party. You're supposed to draw Alexander from Edea in the 2nd Battle with her. However, if you miss it, it's strange Edea doesn't already have it junctioned when she joins your party on disc 3. Does that mean Alexander came from Ultimecia in the future? Or perhaps from the JME (Junction Machine Ellone) that Dr.Odine created.
>>3993659It would make more sense for the JME to be connected to Doomtrain because I think most of the "dreamland" trips happen near stations or on a train itself. However Alexander makes sense as an ability to connect or bridge souls. In some games it's conflated with "Big Bridge"I don't want to spoil Lost Sphear for anyone, but there is an odd detail of androids with mind reading abilities that can also send people into memories. The world of Lost Sphear also has a Salt Flat, which later become a portal to a world of lost memories. Ironically it's not on the Island Continent of Salinas, the name meaning "salty" - although I'd be willing to bet they intended it to be there and only moved it for story/gameplay logistic reasons. In the English version it was renamed "Salsy". But the party member form there is literally a monster made from memories.
KH3 also had a "Final World" inspired by salt flats. The water reflects to sky in such a way that there's no more horizon. So I think there was probably some underplayed significance in FF8, going "beyond fisherman's horizon" and reaching the salt lake.What always bugged me was how Squall carried Rinoa across the tracks. But then all his friends were waiting for him at the end without passing him. Supposing this was a remnant of an earlier draft, I can see Squall and Rinoa were suppose to arrive there by some other means, like a phantom train.
FF7 Revelation seems to be leaning into bible motifs. Does FF8 follow the same pattern? :)
Xenogears had lots of biblical references. As you know (because I keep bringing it up) it was originally pitched for FF7. So maybe it's not that strange for FF7. Revelation is the last book in the bible, also called Apocalypse meaning disclosure or "revelation". The first book of the bible is Genesis which spans the garden of eden, noah's ark, the tower of babel, which are all references used in Final Fantasy, and a bunch of other media. Someone once called it "narrative scaffolding." To be fair, they're very shallow references. Little more than a naming convention. Like in FF3, you have the Mage Noah preparing for a flood. Xenogears was also originally called "Project Noah" which is the name of the plan in-game to create a god. Although the name "Noah" doesn't have any in-game connection to anything. Although, allegedly the project was started before the Diabolos-collapse, when humanity was culled to favor those that could channel ether. This plot seed might have gone back to FF3's noah.
Where were you when new Expeditions game got announced? Desu.
>>3997147One of my favourite Emperors is Julian so I am very used to taking things with a grain of salt lol.
Video games?
>>3996580looks horrible desuhope you can at least mess with the civil war and make factions other than tokugawa win
>>3996580WHat in the fuck is that lmaoHow do you go from Rome kino to that
>>3998716Well, I can't blame her, he is a SNACK.
>end-of-game dungeon on separate plane>defeated enemies still drop money
>Fantasy village filled with heavily armed guards >Needs help taking care of some jobber creatures
>>3993454>be on important time-critical quest>spend weeks doing chores for people
>>3995608I'll do you one better>Tomb sealed for 1000s of years>find intact weapons and armor from current time period
>>3995332It really makes me angry that in most RPGs shopkeepers are just treated as glorified ATMs for converting inventory to gold. I genuinely cannot think of a RPG game that had a sensible market economy that not only reacts to the player but the world at large. The closest I ever played was the original Caravaneer, shame the second was so shitty.
>>3997275This is literally how it works in Elder Scrolls, draugr will relight the torches in the tombs.
