This was quite the effort for a 12 man team. Shame they couldn't polish the controls and combat a bit more. The vanilla game is almost unplayable after trying out Age of Redemption.
>>3613586It isn't a good game. At all.
>>3613586>>3614057>level Presence>stop caring about being outnumbered 600 to 1 because enemies become static punching bags
>>3612041Yeah....
>>3612033If you were blind in there, the game doesn’t run properly out of the box on modern video drivers. It’s not supposed to be THAT dark. You need a wrapper
he's so scary bros......................bleh!
Falcombros... how are you feeling?
Mayor Maybelle
>>3611832Nobody cares but just popping in to say I got filtered by what I assume is the chapter 1 boss (gun girl with her ~7 goons).>fight starts>they all get to unload their AoE and status effects before I can even actwhat the fuck was I even supposed to do? oh well I wasn't really enjoying the game very much anyways
>>3614045Skill issue, it is not a difficult fight at all.
>>3614045> oh well I wasn't really enjoying the game very much anywaysSounds like cope T B H
>>3614045ain't the new games easy mode, how did your ass beat Loewe if you can't beat some chapter 1 jobber
pic related in a broader senseWhy do we even have the conversations of >is X game a TRVE RPG>not a TRVE RPG> X is is shitinstead of critically examining both the intentions as in>what did the devs try to do in this game>why does this game call itself "rpg"and the execution as in>the design of x and y>a post mortem>examining certain mechanics what i see instead is often a toxic group of people trying to gatekeep their beloved genre and strife for absolute purism, faux-scientific definitions as in >game x does not have combat, not an rpgComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>3610813disco elysium is like those pela tar films, post ww2 setting with political tone and implications designed to appeal to certain demographics, on its own it fails to stand up to the greats of the genre but the cult following and the buzz around it creates an appealing aura for the prentensious to claim it as their favorite, when you examine it under the microscope of quality and with no consideration to outside hype and discussion it absolutely fails to measure up to its reputation, i played it and i finished it which is a feat for a game like this since i find visual novels so boring, but i finished it and had some fun in some parts but i also forced myself to slog through most of its boring parts.looking back at my experience with the game i'd say i didn't actually enjoy it that much and if people didn't praise it that much i will probably drop it earlier as well.im glad a game like that exists for some people though, its a unique game in a way and thats good but is it fun? not for meis it good? not for medo i find it memorable? nodo i think about it often? no will i play it years later? noits just not that impressive in any way, a quirky cool unique indie game from eastern europe that has some culture to manifest into a game and can spark some discussion but thats it, a good game it is not. im too old for this game
>>3614078one more thing i want to add is that this game actually exposes how flawed and deeply rotted the game industry and game criticism is, because as a video game its nothing innovative or interesting, but there is a lack of self respect in this community that people cling desperately to "wriitng" in videogames under the desperation that they will get validated and respected like other mediums be it literature, cinema or theatre.i have noticed in the past few years that its getting better but the road is still long ahead.for example this game came out in 2019 and had nothing except it walls of texts dialogue going for it, but despite that it still passed and earned a lot of accolades, stolen from a much more deserving title that got shunned and ignored by the retarded posers and pretensions folk in the community because the mere though of "deep and philosophical" writing is enough to make them cum in their pants. well how else you will appear smart and cool and make others respect your intellectual mind and great taste™Outer Wilds is also a 2019 indie game but with much more innovation and creativity going for it, providing a one of kind experience with a proper physics and solar system made to compliment every inch of its game design, a gamey game made for gamers as a videogame, not a pretentious post ww2 book for bela tarr enjoyers well because foreign is good and deep and political underlying messages are super cool and intellectualOuter Wilds had the game design, level design and one of a kind unique and profound experience that actually creates memorable moments in videogames that you may remember later but the industry is too busy sniffing its farts to appear cool to recognize that.
>>3614078>im glad a game like that exists for some people though, its a unique game in a way and thats good but is it fun? not for me>is it good? not for meThis man is a player character and not an NPC.I agree with much of this. I think that a large element is zoomers being born into a time of enshittification of everything (not their fault!) and feeling a bit insecure that they missed out on older things that are praised to be classics and high water marks. It’s FOMO. They want to claim something for their own generation and put it on equal footing to assert the legitimacy of their tastes. What’s the one game you always see it compared to? PS:T, which has been haunting the top spots of best RPGs of all time lists forever.
>>3614078Yeah in my experience with it, I enjoyed it while I could fool myself into thinking it would live up to expectations. Only to have my illusions shattered in the second half when I realized it was only going to be about 30 hours long, and almost everything that was supposed to be in it wasn't going to be in it, like: deep player expression, choice & consequence, about 1.5 entire areas, guns, the ability to solve a mystery, the ability to apply skills to the environment in ways present in almost every crpg in existence for the past 40 years, and about 40+ hours of gameplay beyond the 25 it took to finish the game.The most bizarre thing is that I seemed to be the only person online who noticed or cared about any of those things.
>>3614094>something for their ownStrange choice there though, since it's derivative of PS:T and written by a 40+ year old.
Did it deserve the hate?
>>3608420i enjoy KOWASHITAI.it's a good song.
>>3613787If you replaced the two with Persona and Fire Emblem Engage this actually makes perfect sense.
>>3613797The irony is that despite the trailer calling back to the classic parts of each series, TMS perfectly represents the trajectory of both series at the time
>>3608983>medieval devil survivor about a war between kingdomsuh yeah that is what everyone wanted
>>3608420>Did it deserve the hate?Yes.
Brehs, do we have too many classes?We're making a rougelite with RPG elements, still in preproduction so it doesn't even have a name.The plan is to make each class as distinct as possible, like the Undead (summon zombies) can evolve to either Hellraiser (summon few but powerful units) or Lich King (summon a lot but weak units).And the lead wants all this class skill tree implemented.Is it too much?
>>3595261ten is too manyif you need 10, make a classless system so people can assemble their own "class"
>>3596095if you let "magic user" also be the "healer" then its just too strong
>>3613125>Warrior>Rogue>Mage>Priest>Warrior/Rogue>Warrior/Mage>Warrior/Priest>Rogue/Mage>Rogue/Priest>Mage/PriestDamn. Couldn't quite make it.
>>3595642Absolutely correct and based take. All of OPs autistic garbage can be slotted under 1/4 classic fantasy archetypes as a single mechanic/feat. This is why most RPGs are wildly unbalanced, because dumbass designers fill it up with too much choice instead of laying some simple lean basics down and building off that and invariably wind up making only 2-3 choices viable in a sea of garbage.
>>3613129If theres a little variety within each class then this is actually pretty good.
What's the most kino thing you can do in New Vegas?
>>3609775
>>3609775I wish you could side with Benny and rule New Vegas with him. He's a cool guy when he's not trying to kill you.
>>3611971He's in a minefield so this would be a real issue. Personally, I accidentally got him blown up so I reloaded the save out of principle.
>>3613937oh my
>>3609775Use Archimedes II to take out Cook-Cook or Driver Nephi. they're both in open areas surrounded by guys, instead of wasting ammo sniping them just blow them all up in one go while they're standing around. its one of the only good times to use it in the whole game.
Why does nobody talk about Oblivion anymore?
>>3611652I was in high school when I played Morrowind and a freshman in college when oblivion came out. I always forget the board is largely children
>>3611652TES games heavily rely on nostalgia. All of them lack depth and have poor role-playing, but the fantastical visuals of the setting plus the 10/10 music leaves an impression on your imagination.
>>3589437You're not trying hard enough and you're not racist enough.On top of that, read a book. Do anything other than video games and then think about video games afterwards; or don't.Either way I ain't reading all that.
>>3610305>playing on Master difficulty for the first timeNow playing a mage, and the gameplay is more fun than any TES game. I'm prepping for dungeons, thinking about spell combinations, timing overcharged spells, using frost magic and even the fucking staff from Saarthal which I presumed to be useless. I know notice there's actual boss battles, when everything doesn't die in teo seconds. It's like experiencing Skyrim again.Maybe I have to try playing Morrowind on harder difficulties, but I don't see how magic could have much complexity to it.
I love that in Oblivion you can cast spells two handed.
I need RPGs that are less story, more crunch/exploration. Pirated this at a whim and found it incredible. Gear you can build a character around, different classes and a mix/match job system. Minimal character interactions or cutscenes: just pure character optimization and overworld secret-hunting.PLEASE tell me there are other games like this. I'm in desperate need something that will scratch the same itch.
>>3611991and they say gatekeeping doesn't work
>>3596097Hard mode in this is kind of a bitch.Enemies are scarce, you spend most of your time platforming trying to figure out where you can even go.A lot of out of depth enemies all over.It's completely 3d because it is just minecraft blocks but you can't turn the camera to see.Seriously hard mode is a bitch. Took a while to realize you just are not supposed to fight things until the boss, and that dying is practically the same as using an inn to heal anyway and you don't have to waste limited consumables.No money for anything. You'll reach new shops and not be able to afford a single item. Craftable stuff picks up the slack here part way in.A couple bosses had some good strategy but most of them you have to barely squeek by before running out of resources.So many classes do the same things.
>>3613952Also aggro system is aids because tanks are shit at having it.
>>3596097Siralim Ultimate might be something to look at. You collect and fuse monsters to run through randomly generated floors of an infinitely scaling dungeon. The crunch is super intense if you want to go deep into the post game, but since all the dungeons are just randomly generated nothings, don't go expecting curated exploration or progression like with Crystal Project. Instead it feels more like a turn based Diablo, or some such.
>>3596097The game would heavily benefit from JP being something you earn universally and then allot to what you want instead of only for the job you are currently using. I found myself trying to use many different jobs that kinda fucked with my setup frequently specifically because the ones I wanted to use were already maxed. Outside of that the game is very fun and lots of strategizing involved for a lot of things.As far as games that scratch a similar itch, probably octopath traveler 1-2.There is a story and character interactions but its second to the exploration and gameplay. The job system is very fun to play around as well. You won’t get platforming and hidden secrets as robust as Crystal Project and the game is very easy to break but you will certainly get a similar feel.
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>>3609224You think Gortash is white? You need glasses.
>>3609224They don't care about the women being evil or not, they care about them being seen as stronger than men. Hence the biggest heroes and anti-heroes in that story are also women (Dame Aylin, Ketheric's daughter, the leader of the criminal underworld, etc).
>>3593024>24 days and still nothing has happened>only sensible post in the entire thread was immediately deleted to stoke faux outrage>things will continue to not happen as you flail your arms about and fill yout diaper
>363 posts later>Moeblob is still seething that his shitty throwaway post was deleted and that the discussion has moved on without him, his bait forgotten
>>3609224>you can hack a strong woman's head off in exchange for a sword that isn't even that goodMy paladin does it for free, he doesn't need any reward. See >>3600519 picrel.Then he hacked off the heads of the fake paladins, too
Which RPGs have the best speech checks?
Threadly reminder that Fallout 3 simps are more contrarian than SW Prequel fans.
>>3609346when game devs trusted the audience to be smart enough to get jokes
>>3611111Checked
>>3611111> "these Californian liberals are just joking and are not the foot in the door for SJW writing to infect everything"Sure. They were just satirising leftist talking points. Keep telling yourself that.
>>3614054Started with the (((Frankfurt School))). Californian leftoids are the symptom not the cause
Its a Nuclear Holocaust, right? But its somehow a secular, multicultural society that emerges. There is no ethnic tension AT ALL, negros and whites living in post segregation racial harmony in a community modelled after a 1950s suburb mixed with a Grapes of Wrath depression era setting.So you go through the scorching desert traversing 100 miles of highway in like 20 minutes, carrying 200 pounds of shit on your back, eating food thats over 200 years old without contracting botchulism.. The world takes place in the Southwest but there isn't one mexican in the entire game except danny trejo cause he'd work for scale.. Openly Gay characters are just walking around, openly gay.. like there is zero mention of Christianity or Southern Baptism anywhere. The one thing they did get right was people selling like, crystal meth at a drug store.. Be like going to grocery store and somebody pulling out a vegetable scale and saying, okay Fred, how many pounds can I put you down for?
>>3614002>In many ways, you have more in common with the black guy next door than you do with a white guy in Russia.I used to parrot the same garbage when I was a young leftoid.>>3613982>newsflash, the times we live in where people insist on color blindness are an exception within human history.
>>3614002I don't have anything in common with the white guy next door, let alone the black guy. That's the thing with multiculturalism and individualism and mob rule and corporatism, complete atomization.
>>3614053You don't leave your country very often, huh. Or the room screen that fisplays media, seems like.
>>3614069You have no idea what you are talking about, do you?>room screen that fisplays mediaIntredasting.
>>3614085>Intredasting.Just proved the point, walked right into it
It's Monday yet again, time to talk about monster collecting and monster raising games. What /mon/ games have you been playing? Are there any upcoming /mon/ games you are looking forward to?
>>3612765still looks better than 90% of nu-pokemon designsWe still have to see it in the official art and in the liberator comic though
>>3612765It's like someone slapped Kyogre colors on a Lapras.
>>3612711This is made in recent decade? This looks like it came out during the 2000s! NOW THATS A MONSTER!
>>3613572It debuted earlier this year.
>>3613615I confused current with recent my bad
I have finished my first replay of Fallout 1 and 2 - this time completely - and this is something I have not done since late 90s. I want to make this thread because I'm stunned how badly Fallout 2 stood the test of time. While the first one has some obvious quirks, and is clearly not something you could say has great gameplay, it has a fantastic array of characters and settlements, and the best contained campaign in genre history I believe. These are not some breakthrough opinions, it's a fantasic game with almost zero filler.Onwards to two, then. Instead of Shady Sands and Junktown you get tribal settlement and Klamath, which barely look like they're in America. The game bombards you with nonsensical, idiotic settings, pop culture references (even worse than Arcanum) and shit that was thrown in just because the retards writing it thought it would immerse the player more. Fucking witch doctor companion, full fledged African cargo cult that still knows and needs high tech terraforming device, fucking Slavers and Brotherhood of Steel existing on the same fucking screen in the same five house shantytown... the game keeps getting worse and worse. I think the Jet-related plots were the only interesting things. Then you get swarmed with Gigaboss, talking Deathclaws, Good Mutant Settlement etc etc. Just horrendous experience all around. My point is, the story and characters are so boring that you have to focus on the shitty gameplay while Fallout 1 is the exact opposite. I think it's the most overrated RPG ever - people shit on Deus Ex 2 because it looks nothing like the first one, but overlook Fallout 2 because it seemingly looks identical to the original, while it does everything worse and fucks up the concept worse than Fallout 3 did. Oh yeah - Enclave. The Trump faction of its time.
>>3613703Fallout New Vegas is the most non-retarded in terms of story and writing, but it is pretty weak as an actual game. There isn't really any "game" left once you make it to New Vegas, just a lot of fast traveling, speech checks, and overall goofing around until the final boss speech check with Legate Lanius. No one really talks about 'builds' with New Vegas for this reason, there's no challenge beyond a very early point in the game.
>>3613962>just a lot of fast traveling, speech checks, and overall goofing around until the final boss speech check with Legate Lanius.Try not using speech skill then, dumbass>there's no challengeRaise the difficulty
>>3613972You'd still just be blasting your way through the game, there is no subtlety to it. The game isn't built to accommodate a stealth playthrough, or something like that. It's either mindless clicking through battle or "I maxed out speech at level 5 so I win"
>>3612910Zoomer bait detected
>>3613996>The game isn't built to accommodate a stealth playthroughI had a fun one with sneak+melee+explosives."Blasting your way through" sounds like you're playing on too easy, but whatever, sounds like you've made up your mind.
Which game is better? A lot of people were saying WoTR looks like low budget indie after playing BG3.
>>3610550Years wasted on bad animation and a garbage plot that is nothing but contrivance, cool. RPG genre is lacking then.
>>3611764BG3 combat and exploration are far better than most RPGs but its writing is too garbage to tolerate unless you're a drooling mong that loves to shout "YASS KWEEN" whenever Karlach opens her fucking mouth.
>>3610540This century sucks with hypersexualization in western and asian rpg games where the main focus is in mah 3D oiled characters sex mechanics like FO4/76 and Stellar Blade. The future of AAA games is to please rich twitchers/youtubers.
>>3613749>So instead of specialist characters you have a martial that can provide arcane or divine buffs/debuffsThis is already how 3.5 worked. You were consistently better off getting a gish or a divine caster in place of any martial.>PF1e is a terrible system that completely misses the point of 3.5eNo. It's a terrible system because it was obsessed with core 3.5. Pathfinder made the same mistakes as 3.5 when Wizards had identified and tried to fix them years before Pathfinder came out.
>>3613988>YASS KWEENKarlach is written like a modern female marine. That's what they act like. She's like master chief but a girl. There's no "yass kween" there, you invented this in your head because your mind is poisoned.
Hi, first time playing this game and also first time getting into Warhammer. Is my soldier build ok? Also looking for tips on what stats to raise and which skills are good. I want to min max but I don't know how the system works. I'm playing on the 'Daring' difficulty too, if that matters
>>3613843>it would have actually benefitted from being made on a proper rts engine seeing as a rogue trader should be allowed to send hundreds of guys onto planets to fight for you instead of just you and your band of freaksExpeditions Rome had a similar mechanic where you commanded your army to take a region then used your small party to pacify it in a small quest.
>>3612560There's a game called Infinite Space on DS. It's worse than that. There's also a hentai rape game called Rai7, it's way worse than that (but that game is actually bonkers good, especially if you read moon).
>>3612523>play every game two timesNow, that's autism.
Does the online co-op work for this game? Owlcat games are so fucking buggy I have a hard to believing they could pull off multiplayer.
>>3613916autism>fotm
