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Which Tales games are worth playing and which aren't?
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>>3715403
>No clue why they never expanded on them
Didn't Graces?
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>>3715745
Graces artstyle is kinda inconsistent, it is celshading in some aspects (characters' hair), but has too much color gradient too, which is the opposite of what celshading do.
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I think Graces looks nice, but it's pretty clear it's a Wii game in HD. Meanwhile Vesperia screenshots looks almost like an actual anime screenshot.
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>>3716855
That style looks okay in 2D, poor in 3D

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I finished Fear & Hunger 2: Termina with all characters on Masoχ-S/M. Here's my final character ranking based on objective gameplay factors.
>S tier
Max consistency, no exploits needed to win the game.
>S- (exploit) tier
The easiest way to beast the game on the hardest difficulty if you use "exploits". Whether something qualifies as an exploit or not is subjective but it's easy to see why they're relying on things that go from "kind of overpowered" to "outright [de]bug abuse".
>A tier
It's honest work, but it's consistent.
>B tier
Would put S to A characters here, if you picked suboptimal starting skills.
>C tier
You get at least one useful reliable thing from your character's start.
>D tier
You get nothing, you need to get lucky to survive, highest demand on player's action skill (dodging enemies, planning your route well, etc.).

The most obvious exploit right away is the debug tile that gives you a rifle + bolt cutters. You can, in example, empty the rifle into Chaugnar in Tunnel 7 for a free extra early soul -> possibly earlier Weaponcraft -> Meat Grinder. The Chaugnar fight is easy to fuck up even when you've got good gear. Then there are Rher dimension exploits

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Why did the little girl not get raped by the guards? Plot hole
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>>3716754
They didn't have a small key.
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>>3661705
Is this the most hipster game ever? From 1 hour I played its a crap save and reload simulator. I played other horror themed rpgmaker game that do it better.

This is like the disco asylum for retarded anime clique kids from high school but Russian edition. I refuse to read a wiki like a autist to enjoy video games.
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^Skill issue
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>>3675884
That is the atmosphere and you are soaking it in, its just quite tense, cruel and unfair.

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I don't understand why this hasn't been rereleased for modern systems.
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>>3715432
You can easily emulate it.
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>>3715486
And nothing will come of it.
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because the tonfa sword looks dumb
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>>3715432
Gamecube IS a modern system.

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Daggerfall if it was good
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>>3715544
If you do not like adventure books in dead tree format or playing games like DnD you will not like this game. It is also in Japanese.
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>tfw only 1 game in the series is fully translated
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>>3716677
>2025
>he STILL doesn't know japanese
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>>3716691
>xxxx
>he pollutes his mind with the thoughtforms of multiple cultures
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>>3715538
>im not a brain damaged zoomer
That means you are, mate. Stop living in denial.

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Why is male bisexuality so popular in modern RPGs?
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>>3716559
Samefagging on two of these, saar, but I made that apparent. Point is we should kill these retarded artists in the streets if they don't start making good shit to appeal to us.
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>>3716560
Well you know what Whitney Houston said... I believe the children are our future, teach them well and let the lead the way, show them all the beauty they possess inside
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>>3713402
Harry isn’t bisexual, he’s so depressed he can’t even get it up anymore.
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>>3713606
And it’s a 15 year old boy
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>>3714784
Post tits or GTFO.

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I never played the original Mass Effect games because I was a Nintendo kid, and my parents wouldn't have let me play M rated games even if I had an Xbox. I distinctly remember everybody raving about the second game and what a masterpiece it is, but I remember people being very disappointed by the third game. There's a collection of all three games that's out. Are they worth playing still? Should I only play the first two and not bother with the third?
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>>3715858
Agree mostly except 3 felt a lot more shallow than 2 to me. Also removed Jack as playable squadmate so fuck em.
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I didnt play the trilogy til 2023 and I had a very good time with it overall. I recommend playing through it, dont stop at 2 that would be silly.

Only real warning I need to give in regard to 3’s quality is you’ll be able to tell it was rushed in the sense previous choices don’t matter as much as they should. However previous decisions WILL have a major impact on the stories of main characters, their races and planets, the way the story ends or continues for all of those. But there are also limitations where you clearly see “oh, they only made content for that choice from the last game and added a single line of dialog to pretend it makes any sort of sense for both choices I could’ve made.”

I could go on but the less spoiled the better, from one former nintendo kid to another I think the trilogy is worth a playthrough. You’ll recognize the problems but have a great appreciation for the overall package anyway.
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>>3710067
>I've gotten the impression that the story is the main draw in Mass Effect
While the story isn't horrible, it's actually not the best thing about mass effect.
The best thing is the SETTING. The setting is very very very cool and just fun to imagine yourself existing in. The characters are quite solid as well, but it's the setting of ME that really sells it.

The story that takes place in that setting is... pretty solid.
First game has a good story start to finish but sets up the overarching story of the trilogy which imo is meh.
Second game has a lame overall story but a lot of interesting sidequest stories which are really 90% of the gameplay.
Third one is honestly ass, but it's worth playing just to finish it off. The third game also perfect the game mechanics to a t.

In short yes they're all worth playing.
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>>3715925
His real first name is BALLS
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>>3715858
Its like a fucked up puzzle. We just never got me3's combat with 2's narrative and 3's world building. Fucking shame

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Are you going to put lewd in your game to try to get more players?
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>>3716591
Big tits. I’m talking huge, bro.
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>>3716591
Creating a turn economy where the best action isn't immediately obvious.
In non-mechanically focused RPGs, you have characters in obvious roles that do their obvious role action every round and that gets you through the encounter.
The complication that most games reach for immediately when trying to increase the combat complexity is making buffs/debuffs the difference between success and failure. This gives you another action type you have to fit into the limited turns you get.
But it's not the only thing. You could have a system where turns are used for resource generation which changes your options in later turns, or you can have a system where there are reasons to attack an enemy other than just doing raw damage. Something like a stagger/interrupt system where it sometimes becomes advantageous to have your healer bonk an enemy instead of doing their usual job. I'm sure there's other ideas you can come up with as well.

Also you should probably limit consumables access in combat, or not have such an assortment of them available that they can bandaid any problem the player can possibly run into.
The whole team having access to a bag with 99x Rez items, 99x Full Status Cleans items, and 99x MP restores limits the ways in which you can design an encounter that can actually wipe a party.

>>3716593
Are Omega Labyrinth or Genkai Tokki: Seven Pirates even good games? I think those are the only ones I know of with big titty mechanics, but I haven't played them.
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>>3715680
???
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>>3716620
you've never tried modding the RPGMaker engine? the javascript is completely uncommented and it can theoretically do anything i wanted it to do but i was taking complete guesses as to what to overwrite, some of it i got right on my very first crack, some of it i never figured out at all, so i gave up and said fuck this i need a gamemaker license, also i was going to have to buy autohotkey to make it spamclick my dungeons into the tile editor
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>>3708229
>text based game
>4 different choices every third page
>still took me 10 hours to finish
anon how many words did you write, you're scaring Tolkien

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Post your favorite
>Patch/Mod
>Clan
>Gender
>Discipline
>Combat type
>Weapon
and finally: did you open it when you first played?
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>>3715630
YOURE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW
YOURE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW
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>>3715392
Legit it hits most of the various types of Nutjobs that Malks can be very well. Guys talking to stop signs can be funny but actual creepy crazy mother fuckers like Grout that could almost be mistaken for normal should be just as common and not played for laughs
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>>3714153
>Patch/Mod
Basic patch
>Clan
Ventrue because I like being a melee tank
>Gender
Male
>Discipline
Fortitude because I like being a melee tank
>Combat type
Guns_
>Weapon
It would be the Deagle but I'm antisemitic so I prefer the Austrian Glock.

As much as I like the combination of disciplines that the Ventrue have, guns in this game are just much more fun than melee especially once you get a lot of points invested in gun skills, but this is one of the few games were being tanky actually means you are very fucking tanky and you'll still do some damage unlike nearly every other RPG where building tanky makes you miss out on a lot of damage for only marginal survivability.
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>>3714153
>Post your favorite
>>Patch/Mod
Vanilla GOG (I think includes the Unofficial patch)
>>Clan
Ventrue
>>Gender
Male
>>Discipline
Dominate
>>Combat type
Guns
>>Weapon
Jaime Sue
>and finally: did you open it when you first played?

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>Patch/Mod
unofficial community patch
>Clan
schizophrenia
>Gender
knives
>Discipline
hysteria/berserk
>Combat type
more knives
>Weapon
that stop sign keeps talking to me
>did you open it when you first played?
i broke Lacroix's legs and gave that bitch the key cause i already knew that shit was empty

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And with that, none of original Bioware are left, and none of the original Dragon Age team.
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>>3709894
Be as gay and have all the fetishes you want just don't be a leftist pushing that garbage in video games, no one looks up to that crap or really wants it in their non-porn entertainment backyard and then leftists use it as a wedge issue to try to bring everything else down along with the clowns, and it worked for a while, many games were ruined and many more could have been AAA on the level of Diablo 2 original release and expansion or FF7 but they chose to appease DEI instead.

You must realize this is how you got Trump as a backlash at the very least.
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>>3716689
We got Trump because Elon Musk wants to privatize the government while the rest of the oligarch class pulls the ladders up. Trump gave them a shit ton of kickbacks that they used to buy up real estate, stock buybacks and small businesses during COVID. Now the elites tagged him back in to repeay the process, but faster this time with intentional disasters like bird flu being untreated. Since he only barely wins elections with fairly consistent middling numbers and is an obvious puppet the elite, you could really say he only wins because Democrats refuse to run leftists. Bernie was pushed out of 2 elections for unpopular centrists, they hate AOC and the rest of the squad and if oppose Israel AIPAC is called on your ass. MSM launders all this as "consensus" while Musk picks our pockets to the tune of $154 billion so far. We'll see how that lasts, atm the centrist/elder Democrats are publicly furious at the increasingly leftist base for demanding better of them. We've got constant internal conflict in the Dems now with their star players currently reviewing other teams; whether thats washouts like Eric Adams looking to join with MAGA or Bernie calling for independents and leftists to primary the centrists into the rustbin of history. Also, Luigi and the coming recession, plus wars, plus natural disasters and bird flu.

>>3710731
>wrong
Wrong
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>>3716702
This post is almost completely delusional and ill-informed.
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>>3716702
>Be you
>Be retarded

Happy Valentine's Day anon.
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>>3716731
No its not.

>>3716786
Happy valentines!

https://www.siliconera.com/dragon-quest-iii-hd-2d-remake-sales-were-higher-than-expected/
This is just one of the many articles put out over the last decade or so just goes to show just how little Square Enix expects from turn-based games. I recall back to similar articles for Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler, and Dragon Quest XI. I recall back to interviews of Square execs saying stuff along the lines of "No one wants turn-based games anymore" and "Turn-based games don't sale" or them laughing at the idea of FF ever going back to turn-based, when time after time any major turn-based release sells. They don't make ALL of the money in the world but they make a good profit and they feel the need to exclaim surprise every time one sells.

What happened to the upper echelons of SE for things to deviate this much? For them to put more money into obvious failures like Forespoken, instead of the type of game that people think of when they think SE even to this day? Square was the company that put turn-based games on the map and now it seems like they show nothing but disdain for their legacy.
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>>3712618
Years into the 9th generation of game consoles, and I think the only RPGs that's not turn-based that I've bought from Squeenix are the Trials of Mana remake (and the Mana collection featuring the first three Mana games), the Kingdom Hearts collections and, if you don't count it as a turn-based RPG, the Live A Live remake. Every other game I've bought from them this gen (Dragon Quest XI remaster, Octopath Traveler, Octopath Traveler II, Bravely Default II, Romancing SaGa 2 Remake, Romancing SaGa 2 Remaster, and the Pixel Remaster Final Fantasies I, III, and VI) have been turn-based RPGs.

I'll probably buy Neo Fantasian Dimension and Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake in the future too.

Besides Kingdom Hearts to close out the Xehanort saga, I've steered clear away from their high budget Triple A slop games.
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>>3716102
>(Dragon Quest XI remaster, Octopath Traveler, Octopath Traveler II, Bravely Default II, Romancing SaGa 2 Remake, Romancing SaGa 2 Remaster, and the Pixel Remaster Final Fantasies I, III, and VI)
Why does it feel like SE higher ups heavily resent all of these. Not to mention we're going to see a lot less of these considering they said they're going to stop putting out lower budget title not that long ago, so we only have big budget AAA slop to look forward to.
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>>3716279
>Why does it feel like SE higher ups heavily resent all of these.
Could it be because their failure to make Triple A movie games and live service games are taking a toll on their sanity? Probably not, but that's what I'm gonna believe.
>Not to mention we're going to see a lot less of these considering they said they're going to stop putting out lower budget title not that long ago, so we only have big budget AAA slop to look forward to.
Somehow, I have a feeling that Square Enix is going to dig themselves into an early grave if they try to go the previous Sony route of putting out high budget Triple As after Triple As because they only have FFXIV to sustain themselves.
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>>3712685
Dragon Quest was censored retard, all to get a piddling 100K outside Japan.
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FF turning into action slop is one thing. The remaster of 7 not being turn based was just a slap in the face.

What are the best JRPGs that aren't part of a larger franchise? I just realised there's hardly any
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Mana Khemia
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>>3716644
is not a standalone game
Ignoring the fact that it's part of a like fucking 30 game series there's literally a Mana Khemia 2
fuck yourself
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>>3716661
Dungeon Keeper 2
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Anachronox.
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Legend of dragoon.

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I want to play through skyrim, last time I played it was in 2012 and I didn't even do the DLC, what's the modpack for me? Something that will make the game better but won't change it in such a way that it's not fudamentally the same experience. I don't care about graphics much but if something makes the game look objectively better (better antialiasing, more fps ect) at little cost to performance then I'd like that too, but I barely care, I just want to have fun.
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>>3710138
If you simply want a good base for modding yourself without worrying about the billion bugfixes, install Wabbajack and use the Skyrim Modding Essentials modlist. If you want more, there are quite a few modlists there. If you pay for nexus premium everything is done automatically, if not you'll just have to click a lot of download buttons but everything else will still be done automatically.
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>>3710138
If your PC can handle it, just get Living Skyrim.
>combat
No Requim, no big bloated shitty overhauls. More spells/enchantments, some improved animations, changes to make it feel more satisfying plus some "tactical" stuff like timed blocks etc.
>graphics
it's very pretty, but also very customiseable with ENBs and their effects.
>world
It only adds the best of the best mod content/quests, their general approach is that if they couldn't bluff that this was official content they don't want to include it. There are some lame followers, though.

It also doesn't add the bloated shitshow that is LOTD.

It's the list I recommend for people who want to play Skyrim but
>want it to look better
>want it to feel like it did when they first played it; new, exciting, full of


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Lorerim is the best Skyrim experience
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This is my relatively lightweight list of mods im starting a new playthrough with. Im considering getting Smilodon to pair with Mortal enemies but that's about it. I'm using re-engaged ENB with obsidian weather.

thoughts, suggestions? I was going for mostly visual / QoL and adding as many weapons / armor as possible.
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>>3716738
real list.

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Can we finally accept cyberpunk 2077 is not an RPG?
Not even an "action/RPG", just a straight up GTA-clone with a skill tree
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>>3716424
Morrowind had a keyword system. Doesn't work as well outside of console dialogue limitations.

Dialogue trees were inherited from point and click adventure games, at least that's where I first saw them. RPGs and early adventure games shared a lot of DNA because many people played both, including the devs of those games that set the trend.
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>>3716428
Morrowind's wasn't the same because it was just lore entries as I recall. You would literally be stopped in Shadowrun if you didn't talk to the vampires right without the right keywords, you couldn't get into the club.

You're right about adventure games and dialogue trees, but dialogue stopped mattering in that way. Now it's just largely wastes of time fluff, you only invest in pressing a to dialogue if you even like the lore. There's never a tense dialogue scene you can fail really, or you just save scum some pointless roll that doesn't even feel immersive at all. You couldn't even save scum your way past keywords if you didn't go back and interact with the other content to get the keyword.
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>>3716406
read the thread nigger
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>>3716424
>CP2077 is still an RPG it's just a very light and lackluster one. It's ok for an ARPG-lite shooter though.
so you are essentially agreeing with me but refusing to draw a line?
ok
but still I think that's where I would draw it
in fact I have two reference points of an action with RPG elements game being exactly that and not an ARP
>Bioshock 1
>CP2077
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>>3716424
>BG3 has real and impactful decisions
The plot is almost completely railroaded because they wrote themselves into a corner via multiple successive rewrites. It has the most egregious “but thou must!” I’ve ever seen in a Western game.
>It does have pointless wokeshit sprinkled in that color disingenuous anons opinions
I appreciate that you acknowledge that it exists and that some people will dislike it. However, why do you assume that other people who dislike an aspect of a game are being disingenuous? Why do you not believe that someone can sincerely and honestly dislike those things?
>but it will be the high watermark for RPG for a long time to come because of stupidly high production value
Full stop. Thats all. It doesn’t do much else well.

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I have bought Morrowind that is from 2002 on steam today. Whats more i gave money to nu Bethesda
I feel filthy, like being a rapist or something
I did it so i could install mods more easily
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>>3716013
Well fuck me wrong image
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>>3716015
I got punishedfor what i did
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>>3716013
>I feel filthy
Well you probably have some mental disorder. It's okay to buy games, don't worry.
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>>3716021
>It's okay to buy games, don't worry.
not 2002 games of my childhood
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Maybe Todd Howard will see that people are still buying Morrowind and get his shit together.
Doubt it though.
Are you playing Tamriel Rebuilt?

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Ok i'm asking this in the vain hope that somebody THAT ACTUALLY HAS DONE IT can answer my question:
how do i make a succubus build work?
I currently can afford every skill except except whore of babylon and bloody mess and i can get all the equipment except for some of the piercings and yet i can't seem to be able to bring down a single goblin.
What gives?
Has there been a rebalance in the last update that fucked things up for this build?Do you need to have all the items and skills to make this build work otherwise it just doesn't?
Should i just say fuck it and go for the stealth archer build?
Help a nigga out.
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>>3703710
Right back at ya.
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>>3706077
why is this picture so amusing and whimsical
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>>3711974
The last time I played the game, years ago, it was already all done except for the final abomination area.
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>>3711974
>There are some good coomer games out there
name 3
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>>3704013
This slav nigger never heard of articles in his life.


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