>Marcoh
The perfect start is Lockpicking, extra Agility, Bob & Weave and Pep Pills. Killing Intent vs Escape Plan makes very little difference. Killing Intent is perhaps slightly useful early, so the weakest villagers don't chase you, and you can ignore die Scheiß-Hunde. The strategy is super simple. Go to the sewers, Lockpick, loot easily accessile stuff. 50 Shillings should be easy, if you don't get enough random drops, just gather a few glass shards and do Moonless first. You can enter the Woodsman's House first and gather glass shards there (and check the bookshelf, get some food) first, because you're only going to the sewer gate, the Eye of Rher is not a problem. 15+10+20 Shillings is guaranteed from Levi's stash in the forest, Renka cafe and Tanaka's doppelganger. Once you beat Moonless, you can just unlock the elevator, then go back with Black Steel in hand and buy a Small Thing's Amulet. And just like that, you have evasion into two turns for every combat, and a very high chance to escape from battle with most enemies (18 Agility). You get your Betel's Stone from the church (no dangers on the way there from the elevator) for faster/food-free infinite mind, your Leechmonger's Ring from the department store (the enemies on the way are easily dodgeable) for faster basically infinite health (either by keeping a bobby around, or attacking enemy limbs during extra turn then running away). Ideally, all you need is a Vinushka Bible so you can get yourself infinite food (delicious turnips) as a backup strat. None of the exploits are needed at all. All you need to purchase extra is Hardened Heart for 99 Shilling, easily doable even after your 50 Shilling investment. You can ignore Bare-fisted proficiency if you don't want Counter Stance from the first Hexen (you don't need to fight the first Platoon, which is where it's relevant with Hardened Heart) and if you got Arm-guards and/or Salmonsnake Rune, or like to live dangerously, ignore Perfect Guard too.

>O'saa
The perfect start is going through the Fear & Hunger dungeon/full text adventure. Most of the other choices are up to your preferences really. I pick Soul Stone over Chac Chac, since you can random a Chac Chac eventually & there's a guaranteed one in the Museum, but Chac Chac gets you magic damage earlier. Meditation over extra affinity might be the best choice, but that's because it's bugged & giving you +2 Rev instead of +1, so you can go guard > double attack (+guard, at 16+AGI). +1 Affinity for Grogoroth let's you get 2 affinity without drawing a single circle, & that's good enough because Blood Golem & Black Smog are the most irreplacable spells there. Alternatively, you can go +1 Sylvan & then jerk off on the pre-made circle to get healing spells without any circle, but you probably would rather draw Sylvan than Gro-goroth. If you already got Ending A on Easy/Normal difficulty, then Red Arc to the head beats all other damage spells in the game, except for some bosses, even if you can't reduce the cost or double it with Spice Forge. La Danse Macabre vs Hurting doesn't really matter much, you eventually get both to get skils that follow in their trees. The best bible to pick is Sylvan for safety or Rher if you want to get skillful with infinite traps early (Chalk is basically guaranteed with 3 Shillings). In the dungeon, you might as well use your Small Key on 2x Bear Traps anyway (you'll get some replacements in the game sure enough), because Thorned Ring is bugged & doesn't protect you from much (same with Gas Masks). Iron Spear over Officer's Sword & Pipe + Tobacco. Most importantly, search the tents in the camp (where you get the Lantern) three times & you start with a fucking Small Thing's Amulet. Then you just need to make it with 50 Shillings to the magic shop, buy another one, & you basically won. You don't have to fight anyone you don't want to fight, 20 Agility is 100% escape chance via Esc -> Run!, no matter how many times you use it in a row.

>Olivia
Has access to Short Circuit. I unironically recommend getting it over Undergrowth Awareness even though it gimps your build initially. If you find a small key early, this let's you secure an early safe route from Tunnel 7 to the sewers. If you don't, you can enter the sewers from Tunnel 5, which only requires one electric lock & no keys, IIRC. Then, for max consistency, you should pick Vinushka. If you're really skillul with dodging, you can do Tunnel 1 straight from the train, the only danger is one Owl Cultist on the way. The Centaur is braindead, just bait it to run into the shrubs in the south, then go to T1 through the north. Good place to pick up extra herbs, which goes well with Alchemillia Vol1+Advanced Botanism from your starting skills. Living Flesh is slow & simple to dodge, Stitches you can either bait from one end of the fence to another & then just walk around her, or shift a crate diagonally to open up a shortcut. You don't need to get a small key for the Meat Grinder because you are a meek woman who can't use it anyway. If you want to go exploiting early, you can take the debug tile's bolt cutters & use them to open woodsman's basement & get early Pinecone Pig, but if you do T1 & Tunnel 7, you have a good chance of getting r&om cutters anyway &/or a winch, on top of a plenty of glass shards & ammo. You can then get your guns when you do the safe route from the sewer puzzle to PRHVL Bop. Moonless I would only attempt once you have some DoT sources (i.e. extra Gasoline Canisters from the Tunnels) because she can still knock you off your wheels with a lucky hit when blinded, but you do have access to better healing/regen in combat from Advanced Botanism. The main "expolit" here is patiently shilling the pig until you get 99 Shillings -> early Hardened Heart, congrats, you are now almost unkillable with the One-Winged Necklace (has a similar effect to Cameo) + Hardened Heart. Just careful with DM's if you don't r&om Arm Guards/Salmonsnake Rune.

>Marina
If you don't mind playing dirty, Marina is the best character for abusing exploits. The perfect candidate for a Trap run. You start with Chalk and you can random Rher -> infinite traps right after the train. Then you might as well pick up your debug rifle and bolt cutters (although they are irrelevant at that point, you can get both keys easily, you can even trap Death Masks in bear traps and they remain immobilized forever). Since you'll have infinite food in the apartment Rher dimension and infinite Shillings, you don't need Vinushka for the Pig. Might as well go Rher symbol on all Asymetrical Circles, except the Mayor's Manor, and put a Sylvan circle there. As if all that trickstering wasn't enough, sleep in the Mayor's Manor bed -> free 0 damage received kill on Samarie (talk to her every 2nd turn, pick the first option, she won't cast Hurting even once). Get Blood Sacrifice and Masturbation at the Orphanage hexen, go straight to the pre-made circles there, and voila, max Grogoroth, max Sylvan, max Rher, max Fear and Hunger, max Alll-Mer (I always do Blood Portals between BOP and the Church), and on top of it all, Marina can start with maxed out affinity for one god - choose Vinushka. All gods max affinity. You might as well get Black Kalev early as a joke, dump him/let him die once you get your Small Amulet and (hopefully early enough) Fear and Hunger Skin Bible. That's why you should start with occultism/Engrave - as soon as you get that, use +5 Agility from Engrave, then you get +5 from the amulet, 20 agility like O'saa. Basically, if you ignore ALL the exploits described in this section, Marina is a watered down version of O'saa - you have to then start with the Fear & Hunger God's bible, might take some reloading before you start, but it's locked in when you save your character history. You have worse weapons, less HP, but you can shoot.

Both Olivia and Marina would be at least A tier without any expolits.

>Abella
Basically, a watered down version of Olivia. Sure, you can still Wrench Toss but your damage is halved so it isn't nearly as effective, so Short Circuit is the safer pick so you can eventually get to the safety of sewers. Make sure to keep one Small Key in your inventory before you head out to Tunnel 1 - it is from the Western section of the city though, so Mob on the way might be unavoidable. So only go that way once you got solid equipment / skills from the Hexen table. Also, when you come back from Tunnel 1, always take the forest route. Not sure if the author intended for this to be too long so you get guaranteed moonscorching, but I tried it even with Olivia on wheels. If you go from Tunnel 1 to the tent with ammo, then you can get from the tent all the way to the house in front of the train just in time to avoid getting moonscorched. Of course, if you don't like living on the edge, you can always put a Rher circle in the Broken Shack, entering it also resets the Eye of Rher timer (which is approximately 60 seconds). Basically, Abella's honest exploitless run boils down to being a watered down Marcoh - slightly harder access to the safety of sewers and needs Engrave or 2x Small Amulets to get her extra turn, and has no defensive skills. Most importantly, try to avoid losing your arms, so you don't run out of circles to Sylvan. If you do have to give up on the Meat Grinder, you do have a near guaranteed Sandman's Kiss at least.

And the rest:
>Levi
He gets a few extra shotgun shells and a shotgun to start with, so you can shoot off the lock on the gate. I would personally choose +1 Grogoroth or Sylvan affinity over the +25 HP, since that doesn't make much of a difference on the hardest difficulty. And don't do drugs. Since all your Solitary soul skills are hot garbage, don't bother using the Orphanage Hexen until you have at least 2 affinity for the god of Fear & Hunger (+Agility, Mastery over Vermin) and either 2 Gro-goroth or 2 Sylvan. Maybe Marksmanship can be useful sometimes, but it's random so I never bother investing into the skill tree to get it. Most enemies are fuck after 2 shots/when you blow off their arms anyway. You could technically return to Tunnel 7 to get yourself a dead Chaugnar though, 5 rifle bullets and 1 pistol shot should do it.

>Daan
If you play as Daan, you don't have to fastforward through all of Pocketcat's dialogue when fighting him to get B on sadomasochism difficulty. If you like to have fun but only sometimes, Daan might be the man for you, because theoretically, with careful food management, you can start every combat with max HP and max mind. You turn food into mind by waiting in the train, and mind into HP by using Loving Whispers. I only played him with Analyze and crossed fingers. Starting with Analyze let's you skip useless skills like Diagnose (flavor text) and Precision Stance (almost on the level of Inverse Crown/Spontaneous Combustion). I can also see some benenfit in Organ Harvest, since that kind of makes you partially immune against bleeding/blindness/infections/poison/toxic (you can always get rid of them after combat, without utilizing any limited resources). And take the Pep Pills over pistol.

>Karin
Press Yes when asked to Skip Character History. Pray to the gods that Escape Plan will succeed when needed.

It's Rise of the Half Rher day today.

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>>3661705
Fake gameplay
Coin flipping simulator
Not interested

>>3661992
>Fake gameplay
The second game's gameplay is better than most triple A RPGs I played in the 2020s.
>Coin flipping simulator
There are only two enemies with unguardable coinflip attacks in the second game, one is so optional that some players don't even know they exist.
>Not interested
This makes me extremely sad and emotional.

>>3661997
>The second game's gameplay is better than most triple A RPGs I played in the 2020s.
And this is how you can easily spot a delusional F&H fanboy from a mile away.

>>3662003
So which 2020s RPGs did you like so much?

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>>3661705
All characters are looking like trannies or fujo shit.

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>>3662008
>fujoshit

>>3662005
Baldur's Gate 3, nocap

>>3661992
I stay away from these games because their fans are off-putitng.
Its like who is the biggest loser you can imagine? well imagine that but ten times worse and you get the fans of these games.

>>3662005
Metaphor: ReFantazio

>>3662028
based & trashtastepilled

>>3662030
Metaphor has better gameplay, writing and art style, easy W

New update will release on St. Nicholas' Eve

>>3662023
>>3662028
Bangers

Are there any popular Fungerlikes other than Felvidek?

>>3661707
>O'saa
How do you deal with nogunz at the orphanage? Those little shits are extremely nasty to fight solo. My second maso run with O'saa took me several attempts before I could manage to get past them.
>all those mentions of free items
Can you explain what you mean by infinite food/traps?

>>3662114
There's a Kickstarter for a cyberpunk one in the works, called Solve et Coagula (look it up on YouTube). Who knows if it will ever come to fruition. It's a solo dev project and his initial release date is June 2025

Jesus christ what a terrible thread

>>3662152
>Can you explain what you mean by infinite food/traps?
Infinite food and infinite traps respectively I explained here
>>3661705
>>infinite food/small keys/money (and fast) from the neighbor near the Golden Gate in White Mold Apartments (accessible to anyone)
in the Rher Dimension, in the second floor (well second from the top), just under the Golden Gate, a Neighbor gives you endless loot, which means endless Rusty Pipes, Small Keys, 2 Shillings and Arms/Legs. Arms and Legs can be consumed as food with no side effect, for some reason.
>>infinite bear/booba traps from the top left darkness corner in the Broken Shack Rher dimension, accessible from the ritual circle
As mentioned, this is the Rher dimension you need to enter via the circle in the Broken Shack (with the two dead villagers and cut off limbs). It's not that it's a bug specific to that location. Every map in the game has a "player set" bear trap/booby trap in the top left corner, because they are then spawned as a copy on the map when a player "places" them. But this particular Rher dimension has just a bunch of statues surrounded by darkness. If you walk into the darkness, you eventually reach the traps, and when you walk over them (blindly), you get a prompt to "take the trap back", as if it was a trap you placed on the map yourself.

But if you don't want to use these exploits, the "free items" specifically for O'saa are the free Iron Spear, 2 Bear traps, and most importantly, the Small Thing's Amulet.

>>3662152
>How do you deal with nogunz at the orphanage?
Yeah, that is the toughest part of the run, but remember, you already have two actions by the time you get to the orphanage. I think I used a Murky Vial or Ornament Lanterns, because he makes himself super vulnerable to fire damage. As for the small kids, remember, 20 Agility. Once you get to Doctor Kefer with 50 shillings (15+10+10 are guaranteed in Levi's stash, Renka cafe, Restaurant Bily Vul, plus 20 if you do Tanaka), randoms = gg.

>>3662164
Technically you still can get yourself in a corner surrounded by to enemies, but that's the only way you can ever be forced to fight. And of course, Ratkin and the Ratkin gang are still faster than you, but those are fights you choose. And I haven't actually tried what happens if you run away from moonscorched Caligura. I would assume it's not possible to run from him, but for moonscorched Marina you can just win by running away. That's obviously a bug, but moonscorched Marina is one of the easiest bosses in the game.

>>3662164
Thanks for the explanation on times. As for the O'saa stuff, I just realized I forgot that I did his and Marcoh's maso runs before the dash update. I wasn't able to to loot quite as much as I liked (forget grabbing Levi's stash before Rher nukes you pre dash), but with dash the early game should be much easier to plunder. The western forest should be explorable too, before dash you needed autistic planning to bounce between enemies to refresh the timer with victories if you want to get anywhere on time.

>>3662164
Oh and one more thing, you there is of course also the Pinecone Pig which gives you an honest way to obtain infinite food alone and very, very, very, very slow way to obtain infinite money. I have no way to check if the drop rates are affected by what you fight, but you can 100% keep getting drops from the same encounter over and over again, even if it's just from one of the passive villagers in the slums. The most common drop tier is 1 shilling or 1 turnip, so the turnip is free food, the 1 shilling is free money. I only ever used it if I'm like a couple of bucks under 50 for a Small Thing's Amulet / Soulstone, or bit under 99 for Hardened Heart. It might be just bias/random chance, but I noticed that when I have the Pig equipped when going against something like a Death Mask, the drops seem to trigger more often. So characters with easy 20 Agility (O'saa, Marina) can just farm endless Shillings/Turnips bit faster from actual enemies.

>>3662168
>I wasn't able to to loot quite as much as I liked (forget grabbing Levi's stash before Rher nukes you pre dash)
This is actually a very important thing to do at the start of the game - I thought that the Eye of Rher triggers after the second screen transition, but that's not correct. It triggers as soon as you enter the map with the Broken Shack or the map with the Sewer Gate. So, you should always start your run by going to the map east of the train, so you can gather all the herbs and Levi's stash without any pressure. This isn't a bug, because it's probably not possible to reach safety by going east otherwise, the Rher timer would kill you by the time you got to the shack by the lake.

Where can I download the Unlimited Saved mod? Is the Abella Sex Scene Decensor mod somewhere? Or the Heartless One sex reward mod for male characters?

>>3662230
>Is the Abella Sex Scene Decensor mod somewher
The what now

SHOULD I PLAY THE FIRST GAME OR THE SECOND GAME FIRST

>>3662273
Depends, do you get filtered easily? If so, the second. If you are ok with dying a ton and learning until you can break the game, then the first.

>>3662230
>>3662239
Not advertiser friendly mod
https://files.catbox.moe/86245g.gif

>>3662322
Caligura is just like me for real.

>>3662322
hot

Why can some attacks still kill through Hardened Heart + Guardian Cameo or Olivia's necklace? Not instant kill attacks, but damage attacks. I died to someone in the mob fight even though everyone did 0 dmg for the most part.

>>3662473
You need to be above 1 HP for Hardened Heart to work. If you let bleeding/poisoned/toxic/burning get you down to 1 HP, you get only damage reduction from Last Defense and die. Also, sometimes the attack is not high enough to need to be reduced by Hardened Heart, because after the Last Defense reduction it would only deal your HP-1 or less damage.

Kaiser is like Funny Valentine from JoJo

>>3661992
I don't even watch horror games anymore since they take a tool on my mental health
it's also very unsatisfying since they don't give any answers and everything is so obscure

>>3662273
The first, it's a lot easier and more convenient to navigate, the mechanics are not as involved, and you can sleep as much as you want.
Combat is also harder because you get less options early on and useful party members take longer to recruit.

How do I defeat Bing Crosby?

>>3662651
Haven't read that part, is Funny a huge jobber like Legarde?

>Olivia can instantly kill children with her wheelchair + stairs.
Neat

Sometimes I can't run even though I have legs?

>>3662870
There's a stamina bar bro

>>3662870
I have the same problem IRL

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>Chaugnar be like "fuck this shit I'm outta here" (walks through the wall)

>>3662994
Why do you get the Caressing Soul from Chaugnar? Chaugnar never dies, you can confirm by using Diagnosis, Chaugnar is just pretending to be dead.

Is it legal to make mods for the game if it involves reverse engineering, basically?

>>3663471
There's nothing to reverse engineer. It's basic RPG Maker noob slop code that barely works in the first place. This isn't some giga complex VIP rpg or whatever.

How does this compare to re:Fantazio? Joey from Trash Taste said Metaohor is a goatsed banger that's better than all Persona games. Garnt says it's his favorite game ever too. But Conner says he can't play it because there are too many cutscenes and he instead shills this game non stop.

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Is it cool if I drop my playable girl marriage mod update here?

>>3662322
Her insecurity probably be gone by now

>>3663891
yeah please
I love lolis!

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>>3663942

Playable Le'garde and Girl Marriage Mod 2.0 FORK

Back up your game, just to be safe. Your saves should still work.
Decrypt F&H with - https://files.catbox.moe/qi6rdn.zip
Overwrite files with - https://files.catbox.moe/c24m6b.zip

Save and Continue Mod

https://www.mediafire.com/file/v3rbe87x8racgse/save_and_quit.zip/file
To use both together open System.json in the save and continue mod with notepad and change "hasEncryptedImages" and "hasEncryptedAudio", both to false

Feel free to post feedback here and please screenshot any bugs you find.

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>>3664079

Changes:
Girl and Le'garde are now fully playable (albeit with some missing sprites.)
Numerous grammar and spelling mistakes have been corrected.
Playing as Le'garde will reset your affinities with Gods, however praying at ritual circles and statues or joining with the Bunnymaskers/Wolfmasks will be treated as if you are doing it for the first time.
Engaging in a marriage with the girl will now provide a sanity heal to the character you're playing as instead of a party heal. The sanity hit the girl takes when participating in a marriage has been readjusted.
Girl now gains increased benefits from items. Food satisfies more hunger, healing items heal more health, etc. These benefits are also shared with Kid Demon and Baby Demon.
The modded Escape II ending has been fleshed out to have more variations depending on which character you're playing as, how you treated the girl, and what NPCs you helped.
Miasma now has the otherworldly element and can inflict poison.
Ghouls are now immune to the poison and parasites status like Moonless, can be fed rotten meat with no ill effects.
Many bugfixes.
Even more changes are included in a txt. file that comes with the mod download.

Txt files are included with missing content that still needs to be added, ideas for new stuff to add, and a list of missing sprites.

>>3663942
>>3663891

Does it let you sex?

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>>3664086
Yeah. If your hero refuses, it's because their sanity isn't low enough.

>>3664079
>>3664080
Holy based...

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>>3664079
Oh my...

>>3664079
>>3664080
Missing content and planned content:

What is currently unfinished:
Endings: Some endings have variations depending on what character you're playing as. Girl specific variations are currently placeholders.

Muteness: In the game, you have to option to talk with the monsters you're fighting and you can also talk to friendly NPCs. However, the girl talks very little, so dialogue options will have to be changed to reflect this.

Ideas on what to add:
Illiteracy: In the game there are various scrolls and books you can read that allow you to learn new abilities or learn more about the lore of the game's setting. A scraped idea was for one of the playable characters to be illiterate and unable to use these books unless they had another party member to help them read it. This mechanic was never implemented, but I thought it would be an interesting limitation for the girl.

New Intro: In the vanilla game, playable characters start off with an intro that has multiple choices that can be picked to give you different abilities to start off with. For example the mercenary character can live life as a pickpocket or a burglar to start off with the steal or lockpicking skills respectively. However the girl does not choices, she simply starts off with a single skill that allows her to move more quickly through the map. I think she could use an intro consistent with the other characters to increase her replayability.

Sneaky: Monsters are present on the map and will chase after you to start a fight if you come within 5 hexes of their line of sight. Since the girl is small compared to the other heroes, I was considering reducing the monster's chase distance to roughly half (so three hexes) to represent her being harder to spot due to her shortness.

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How would other RPGMaker characters fare in Termina?

>>3664226
I recognize only the guy whose name is LISA and the puke girl.

>Your mom walks into your room.
>She sees you are sexually assaulting the little girl.
>"T-Timmy? What are you doing!?"
Your response:

>>3664249
I always alt tab when someone opens my door, even if it's a normal game with nothing suspect going on the screen.

Hot take:
>First game is harder when you don't know everything, but easy once you know all the meta
>Second game is easier when you don't know everything, but harder even when you know all the meta.
Even the debug tiles are better in the first game, first map has 2 extra companions to make you not feel lonely even when trying to get ending S, second game has just a rifle and bolt cutters so you can get killed by Art in the city.

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>>3664226

Pocketcat is cringe, I skip through all of his TL;DR dialogue

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Pocketcat is based, I reread all his witty dialogue.

>>3664598
Oh yeah? Sum up what he said in the first game and in the second game in 5 sentences.

Pocketcat is based, I pretend all his dialogue is about cunny.

Does anybody knows, when Miro makes an update for Termina?

>>3664945
Christmas for sure

>>3664962
domo arigatou

Why did so many food items stop existing between 1 &2? No more bacon & eggs? Really!?!

>>3661705
Hello beautiful people

I am writting a paper on indie games and would like to hear from you what makes you enjoy this game despite its lower production value than standard games.
What are the qualities in your opinion this type of game has over other titles

>>3665163
First of all, this thread mixes together two games, older Fear & Hunger and more recent Fear & Hunger 2: Termina.
Second of all, 4chan is awful option for getting honest opinions - most people here either have some agenda to push, or will mislead you just because they think it's funny. This might or might not include this very post.
With the above in mind there's also possibility that even your request isn't genuine, which further disincentivizes giving legitimate "in good faith" answers.

>>3665188
How do you enjoy this place with this mindset

>>3665163
>game design that takes risks and doesn't care about being accessible
>good atmosphere, not necessarily scary but nails dark fantasy
>mechanics are free and open enough to enable instrumental/high level gameplay for experienced fans
>characters, especially player characters have pronounced yet believable personalities
>setting is developed yet vague enough to invite speculation/imagination
>explicit challenge modes keep players engaged
>made by a single autist with a vision

>>3665163
>I am writting a paper on indie games
Which paper? You with The Sun?

I've done ending A and B as Marina (and killed heartless) in maso mode. I don't use any blatant exploits (debug tiles, infinite item spots etc.) and I also do not use any new game + spells like red arc. I feel like Marina is purely better than O'saa because of the ability to use guns, I hate those fucking snail priests like you wouldn't believe and I want to shotgun them all

>>3665587
>I feel like Marina is purely better than O'saa because of the ability to use guns
I can see your point, but I think O'saa is objectively better because he can simply run away from every non boss encounter from a guaranteed point in the game. The moment you reach Kefer with 50 shillings, you are free to explore the whole map without a care in the world (other then a few scripted boss fights, but Monster can be avoided). You can even run away from the Mob. With Marina, you need to keep re-rolling until you get Fear and Hunger God for your Engrave, which makes it harder to also make sure you start with a good phobia. And O'saa has +25 HP and Iron Spear for the early times where you might find yourself stuck in an encounter with villagers somehow. And the two guaranteed Bear Traps (because Thorned Ring is useless at the moment) which have a multitude of usages (free Priest kills, instant child kills, disable early Death Masks). You could even use 1 to make sure you don't fumble and get blocked by the birds when you use the Hexen (though you can still run away from them endlessly with 20 Agility). The only "guaranteed" time when guns help is against Father Hugo. But you can just equip Levi's jumpsuit (from the doppelganger, if you get an early Sewer Winch) to increase your fire resistance and throw Ornament Lanterns at him once he uses Scorched Earth.

Also, how have you killed Heartless? I never bothered fighting her without Hardened Heart and Guardian Cameo. I guess she's easy if you fight her after you get Olivia's poisons, but I usually don't bother to wait for that.

>>3665635
meatpie +, vegetable pie+, goulash+ for attack, evasion and defense
purifying talisman for magic defense, reuse if heartless debuffs you
pep pills for agility

leechmonger ring, arm guards (or hardened heart with perfect block), beheaded wizard (30% blocks soul strike)

spice golem and pheromones it first move, counter stance extra turn then

then always guard as your move on the turn. if you are not low hp on the extra turn, use poison if you got it first, then use burn for dot, then use flesh puppetry for more leechmongering. if you are low hp, use heal (try to use blue roots for regen too). obviously if you start the round low hp you have to heal and hope for the best but with so much evasion and passive healing you should be able to survive a few hard turns. if you have rev you can also heal with melee attack

>>3665635
>The moment you reach Kefer with 50 shillings
I feel like this is a bit too late a point in the run to base character strength on because you're just a short hop away from the hexen as well, which is the real "run solver" point, especially if you have red arc unlocked. Personally I agree with the other anon of Marina > O'saa solely due to the guns because of how great they are earlier on, but don't forget that she can also easily grab a party full of meat shields via necromancy if you forgo early engrave (which you might as well, by the time you get to Kefer you're about to hit the orphanage hexen anyway). I think one of her strongest points is that you can indeed reroll for F&H and phasmophobia, and honestly it's not that much worse than rerolling for a specific phobia with O'saa because of how long his intro takes. The main use of F&H I find is that you can save scum loot very easily from the library and with a bit more hassle from the mayor manor if youre willing to make the run between the old town house and the manor.

>>3665906
am I the only person who doesn't reroll starts or savescum for items? just play the game you don't need perfect stuff to win

>>3665906
>I feel like this is a bit too late a point in the run to base character strength on because you're just a short hop away from the hexen as well
Not really because the usefulness of the school Hexen is gated by having Soul Stones and skills available (which requires affinity, which requires semi-random book drops for most characters and/or defeating bosses, easy ones like Valkyrie or situationally easy ones if you have the right items like Monster and Chaugnar). So how I usually play is clean the school then come back to the Hexen later when I got a solid amount of decapitated heads->soul stones and have the affinity for the right gods. Most importantly, you want to find the Fear & Hunger god somewhere for +1 Agility. I guess with Marcoh I could just skip early, because he doesn't need other characters' skills early and if you start with the agility boost, you don't need the +1 Agility from Fear & Hunger god.

If you have sewer access (Marcoh/Lockpick, Olivia and Abella with Short Circuit or anyone with a Sewer Winch) you can and you should right away beeline through the sewers to the Speakeasy so you have free mind recharging. From the Speakeasy, it's a free route to the Renka Cafe for some extra items and then Leechmonger for endless hitpoints (depending on how far you want to walk/how much time you want to waste). And from the Leechmonger Ring, immediately you get access to Kefer. If you gathered enough random money from containers, you might have already enough for an Amulet before going to the school, which means 2 actions for agility Marcoh and any full adventure O'saa and Fear & Hunger Engraving Marina. For the latter two it also means 100% escape rate, for Marcoh it's like... 80% I think?

And if you have enough glass shard (~2-3 realistically all you need), you get a free kill with the Leechmonger Ring on Moonles, and access to the church, where you can speed up your mind gain with Betel's Stone. Basically, how I evaluate it is elimination of risk

>>3665920
I only reroll starts for Marina, because of the book. Nothing worse than if you pick +3 affinity for some god and then get the same god's book... I reroll phobias on worse characters, didn't pay attention to what phobia I got with Marcoh and O'saa, and if you want early hardened heart Olivia, technically you even benefit from having the worst phobia possible.

I know that you can and probably should savescum for at least one item, because it's so much easier if you have some good location (like the basement) where you can safely check lots of containers until you get a Salmonsnake Rune (nothing else matters, maybe Bremen Elite Helmet but even that's a stretch). But even if I wanted to, I cannot save scum, because I play on Steam Deck 99% of the time and it takes incredibly long to go from the main menu to the load screen. That's why I don't even turn off the game, I just put the Steam Deck to sleep. At least I don't have to do stuff like "oh no I need to exit the game, better use my one Book of Enlightenment haha".

>>3665906
>I think one of her strongest points is that you can indeed reroll for F&H and phasmophobia
Never managed to do this in example, because rerolling the whole game takes incredibly long too. Having to go through the full adventure with O'saa is also a reason why I don't reroll phobias for him, but like I said above, I think O'saa is so strong that I don't need that. The starting gear is simply so good that the phobia doesn't matter and the 20 Agility makes guns obsolete. And remember, you don't need to waste time gathering money, you have guaranteed 10 shillings in the Cafe Cash register, 15 shillings in Levi's Stash and 20 shillings from Tanaka doppelganger. 5 random shillings on the way is piss easy. Then you can loot the whole world freely until you get some ornament lanterns/books/whatever you want. 20 agility is freedom and you can get it in just 3-5 forced combats, all but Moonless piss easy.

>>3665920
I reroll starts at the very least, I see no reason not to have a solid foundation and at bare minimum do not want teratophobia which is functionally panophobia. For items I don't heavily reroll barring extreme shit like coming out of manor + library with fuck all except grogoroth skin bible and all the useless books front loaded. That and being 0/6 on old town chests, which has actually happened to me twice.
>>3665922
>Not really because the usefulness of the school Hexen is gated by having Soul Stones
You get at minimum 2 from the dark priests, and with the guaranteed firearms from the Bop you can easily lugr down the entire orphanage worth of cherubs for a hefty chunk of stones (unless you're O'saa...kek). This is on top of the couple you can get from the passive moonscorched villagers. You don't exactly have a surfeit of stones but you don't need to fill the hexen anyway. Those are just the more or less guaranteed stones, not counting stuff like having a combat solution with certain characters letting you mow through the old town villagers as well for another handful of stones. Which, desu, most characters can do if you backtrack after getting leechmonger and wraith ring. The combined sustain should be helpful.
>and skills available (which requires affinity
Red arc is broken and is always available after you unlock it, and by the time you get to orphanage you have looted manor, bookstore, and orphanage bookcases which means that due to how you are guaranteed no repeats outside the max 3 fliers, even the worst luck will give you at minimum like 3 skin bibles.

>>3665950
I have done every ending with every character and done multiple maso wins and I have not once in my entire life looked at a single phobia any character has had. As far as I know that mechanic doesn't even exist, it seems completely inconsequential

>>3664226
>Brad
Would 100% kick the absolute shit out of everything
>Niko
Raped
>Omori
If Omori, would probably not do too well since he relies heavily on his allies. If Sunny, he would have a nervous breakdown every other room
>Madotsuki
Spitroasted
>The Oni
Would probably do quite well, but I've always assumed he is of poor intelligence so would be rather limited what he can do. Would probably eat corpses for HP

>>3665950
Well, like I said, O'saa has no reason to rush the Hexen and no reason to reroll anything. You can just get your 20 Agility in under 1 hour of playing and then loot everything safely. Doesn't matter one bit where the books spawn, or if I only get something like Grogoroth, Vinushka and Sylvan from the Manor. I don't even kill the non hostile villagers until I get O'saa's 20 agility because there's no reason to do it. Nothing in the game trumps it. The way I see it, O'saa has an easier way getting to the Speakeasy than Marina, and from there he can either gather stuff to kill Moonless if he hasn't already got enough money, or buy his freedom. Marina can also buy 20 Agility at the same point, assuming you rolled Fear and Hunger book, and though Marina does get the strength boost from using guns on top of that, to me it's just irrelevant at that point. Once I can vacuum the whole map for resources, having a couple of fights easier from that point doesn't mean much.
Basically, if you want consistent freedom as soon as possible, O'saa is the safer route because guns don't help none against Moonless, and that is the only tough obligatory fight if you're not relying on finding enough money on the map before freedom. I just view Marina as a winmore version of O'saa. The philosophy of the agility approach available for these two characters is "why risk it, when you can just play it safe and remove all risk from the game" and O'saa is safer on the path towards ultimate safety.

O'saa comes from the Polish word "osa" meaning wasp. Wasps are yellow and they hurtin' too.

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I have a love/hate relationship with Miro.
On one hand, I admire his effort in the games, doing all by himself even if he's not a coder, from the writing, to each and every little tile, background, and parallax, and even the music. The lore is deeper and more interesting than most people think, and there's a lot of secrets that even people in these threads don't know, from both games.
However, he's also gigantic faggot of the worst strain. He's a peaple pleaser and attention seeker, who lies to his audience to save face constantly.
You can see it in how he handled the whole pedo mod issue (going as far as try to make it canon that Sylvian somehow disapproves of it, despite Sylvian being a potentially evil god, what happens to Daan in Termina, the original Orphanage etc...). He disavowed this website, despite the fact that he was shilling his games here when nobody cared about him. He has to pander to his idiotic new troon cult, so he had to retcon Pocketcat being a pedo as well, solely because people liked him or found him funny, and he doesn't want to offend the Pocketcat fanboys.

He talks shit about Black Souls but his male characters are one of the most blatant yaoi bait I've seen in a long while. Not that there's anything wrong about yaoi bait, but he won't admit it, because he doesn't want to alienate a mentally ill fanbase who is both sex obsessed but also fixated on idiotic puritan morality and against "objectificafion", even for males.
I'll allow myself to go full conspiratard and say that originally, Samarie's and Marina's roles were switched, and Samarie was supposed to be ths troon all along due to her uglyness.
He switched them out not only to not offend troons with the ugly mentally ill stereotype, but because he realized that the troon's ultimate fantasy is to have a biological woman lust over him (90% of mtf still like women).

>>3666476
Troons are the ultimate no life autists. They are very prone to cult behaviour and to act as police and enforcers in online communities, especially niche ones.
By pandering to them in the west you will have free consoomers and propagandizers and marketers for your product, as long as the product isn't designed for mass appeal to begin with.
So Miro took advantage of them instead of risking angering them.
I have no proof for the latter but given his track record in his relationship with these threads, how faggy his community has become, I can't help but guess it and fuck you Miro if you're reading this.

>>3666476
You sound like an immense retard. Creator isn't a pedo and didn't want to make a game that caters to pedos, so fucking what.

>He has to pander to his idiotic new troon cult
This has literally never happened. You are making shit up because you don't like the game having a trans character. Everything else you typed is pure schizo nonsense with no basis in reality.

>>3666482
What has to do with anything I said, retard? I'm not a pedo either, and I don't want Fear & Hunger to cather to pedos.
I don't want the girl or the demon baby to me marriageable. But you can easily make them impossible to select at the ritual circle without making an hypocritical lore clusterfuck.
Care to explain this video to me?
https://youtu.be/geW8ZkHBcsw?feature=shared
Because Orange went out of his way to claim that Pocketcat isn't a pedophile, and that you're a bad person if you think he is, solely because the new retarded fanbase loves the character, makes self ships with him and is incapable of thinking without daddy developer telling them what is right and wrong.
>muh mad le trans girl
Having a lesbian yandere girl obsessed with you is a troon fantasy. Just like being prettier than real women is. You know it deep down.

>>3666488
>Because Orange went out of his way to claim that Pocketcat isn't a pedophile
link me him saying that

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>>3666489
He said it on his discord. He said
>I checked up some of the 4chan threads to read more into that mod. [...] Some tried to defend it by saying 'but pocketcat did it first..." but those people probably didn't grasp the whole story. Pocketcat's allusions are just a creepy red herring. He's not after the girl for personal reasons or gains, most people familiar with the lore can probably see this much. If you call this BS, then fair enough, I've learned my lesson to not even allude to stuff in the future.
Which is blatant bullshit (the fact that he had to attempt an inb4 BS is pathetic and indicative that it is indeed bullshit).

It's not the distaste for pedo shit that irks me, because I find it perfectly fine and actually agree with him. It's the pathetic way he lies, denies reality, rewrites history, and all admittedly because "the game has a bad enough reputation as it is".
If people don't understand the difference between not allowing your character to be a pedophile rapist, and denying that the blatant pedo evil characters are blatant pedo evil characters, then it means they're stupid or immature.
Pic related, the evil priest was supposed to have raped a child in a Sylvian circle (and hence become a marriage) which could have been a good commentary on child abuse in catholic institutions for instance. Instead he changed the sprite because otherwise the fans would have been upset that Sylvian wasn't the Old God of wholesome chungus non-objectifying sex.
You can see the dishonest and actually frankly creepy in retrospect mentality behind Orange's words.

>>3666502
>It's the pathetic way he lies, denies reality, rewrites history,
But you are the one doing this with your ridiculous exaggeration. you have basically crafted a narrative to hate this guy even though you clearly like everything he's made

>>3666508
>makes a character called pedocat 10 years ago
>said character faps when talking about children and kidnapping them
>confirms he created his fairy tail, which was almost the same as the one we find in the game, before he even started making fear and hunger
>but Pedoc- I mean Pocketcat isn't a pedo guys!

>>3666511
>make character named Daan
>Daan has a horrible childhood, in which his parents groomed him and abused him in Sylvian rituals, and he was forced to become a child prostitute
>He moonscorches, and moonscorching transforms you into the thing you are most afraid to become, or been seen as
>He transforms into Pocketcat when he moonscorches, while the old Pocketcat tells him that he can't hide his true self from others and everyone sees through his mask
>But Pocketcat isn't a pedo! The joke is that Daan is... le furry!
https://youtu.be/IDp1HfSuDgY?feature=shared

>>3666511
>>3666512
stop malding and a post screenshot from the discord or you're making shit up

>>3666502
>Pocketcat's allusions are just a creepy red herring. He's not after the girl for personal reasons or gains, most people familiar with the lore can probably see this much.
That's actually just true though. pocketcat is a servant of rher, he wants the girl to stop her ascension. Him being a pedo is more of a show

>>3666514
You're just going to claim the screenshot is fake so why don't you join the official discord and see for yourself?
The link is https://discord.gg/bJES7Sp, use the search function with the
>He's not after the girl for personal reasons or gains, most people familiar with the lore can probably see this much. If you call this BS, then fair enough, I've learned my lesson to not even allude to stuff in the future
Query and you'll see the message. I straight up copypasted from it.

>>3666520
That makes no sense. Both can be true at the same time. The servant of the evil trickster God who hates humans and makes them suffer can be a pedophile, if he acts like a pedophile, talks like a pedophile and if his name is fucking PEDOCAT.

>>3666524
Pretty sure he appears as an obvious pedophile to show just how evil and selfish the player is to give the girl to him because rher's whole thing is showing how disgusting and monstrous humans are

>>3666530
And Daan the sexualky abused kid becomes what he fears to be the most... Rher's servant (even if Rher already left the world by the game's time and his servants aren't bound to serve him anymore).

All this contrived schizo bullshit just because Miro didn't have the balls to say "yes, one of the evil characters is a pedophile but I don't like the idea of allowing players to be one and risk them titillating themselves with it."

>removes Karin queer line because os pressure from twitter tards
>removes Marina crossdressing line because of preasure from trannies
>post a screenshot of Caligula on twitter saying that he will get some character development
>immediately regrets and explains that actually, he geting a fixed location is the character development in itself
>yes, twitter retard were actually mad because a rapist on a franchise full pf rapist might get some attention, go figure

How long is gonna take before the community of retard he grew turns on him?

Who is the gayest?

>>3666574
Miro "Orange" Haverinen

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>>3666595

Fo ghouls get scared at 0 mind?

real talk: Orange is just a talentless hack who got lucky and carried by Russia

>>3666476
Who is the old woman behind daan?

>>3666476
>despite Sylvian being a potentially evil god
She's a force of nature, anon. Morality doesn't apply to her.
With that said, I can't see why she'd give a shit about it. She doesn't approve of rape in general (imo that's more Gro-goroth's wheelhouse) but like, fucking kids as a whole? If she didn't want it to happen she wouldn't have made humans that way.

>>3666843
Trvthbomb

>>3666849
Reila alpha design

>>3666476
>I'll allow myself to go full conspiratard and say that originally, Samarie's and Marina's roles were switched, and Samarie was supposed to be ths troon all along due to her uglyness.
He switched them out not only to not offend troons with the ugly mentally ill stereotype, but because he realized that the troon's ultimate fantasy is to have a biological woman lust over him (90% of mtf still like women).
>Having a lesbian yandere girl obsessed with you is a troon fantasy. Just like being prettier than real women is. You know it deep down.

>tfw Samarie is your favorite Termina grill but everyone thinks she is uggo, even the tranny gets more lewds
Feels bad man. That said, I think if Miro really wanted to pander to the troons, he probably would have made Abella or one of other girls obsessed with Marina instead of Samarie since they're more popular and conventionally attractive.

>>3666520
>>3666530
I could buy Pocketcat just larping as a pedo since Rher is a trickster God and won't be upfront about his real reason for wanting the girl. However, if you sell the kids to Pocketcat and interact with them their dialogue implies that they've been tramatized in some manner. What kind of "memories" could the Kid Demon possibly be repressing?

>>3666687
No.

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>>3666940
Forgot my screencap

do Yugoohgatsu amulets stack with each other? add up with Black Steel?

>>3662114
I wish Felvidek was as good as Funger.

>>3667272
yes and yes

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>>3662010
Where have I seen this man before ...

>>3667444
Literally no resemblance

>>3667452
Rotate the head in your mind.

>>3667480
Considering how overt he reference was in his previous portrait, I doubt Miro would do something so "obscure".

>>3667380
what are the numbers? additively or multiplicatively?

>>3661992
Lona is super ass in terms of gameplay and dodging barely works. I wonder if the full release will have better combat and skippable sex cutscenes.

>>3667480
>Rotate the head in your mind.
I don’t understand the question. I did read Evola this morning.

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>first try on full adventure O'saa, get phasmophobia

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Karin got stuck in the bushes.

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>>3667895
>The woodsman is stuck with axe raised up
What's going on here

>>3667895
>>3667898
your game modded? i've never had either of those things happen

>>3665960
>>Omori
he can definitely hold his own, especially with hikiko powers

i really want to get into fear and hunger but the gameplay is so boring

>>3667969
Funny, to me it's one of the most fun JRPG-based combat games I ever played. But I'm not a huge fan of JRPGs, only played 4chan's favorites, such as
>Persona
>Trails in the Sky
>tried a few Final Fantasy, they were just worse Septerra Cores
>uh, Undertale was also less fun, no replay value
>the Rance RPG games

>>3667894
>>3667895
>>3667898
Who do we ship Osaa with!?

Is it possible for an S ending to exist in the sequel? What should it be?

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>>3668065
All the white girls (and Marina)

>>3668076
Pic related btw.

>>3661992
Kind of unfair to put Fear and Hunger next to actual p0rn games (I assume they are, I don't know most of them).
Also...
Sickening p0rn aside, I think Loona has *some* real srtistic merit in it. It can be a true gutter crawling simulator, you truly start from zero.
Too bad you can become actual adventurer a bit too fast.

>>3668156
Lona, single o (洛娜)

>>3667680
>I did read Evola this morning.
What are you reading?

>>3667894
>had all this perfect run aligned, as usual I found the salmonsnake rune in some fucking random barrel
>all three keys obtained, hardened heart, two small thing's amulets, all I needed to do for my morning Ending A no casualties no hexen run was activate tunnel 1
>but then I alt tab into work (was playing the game during work, just wanted to do 1 thing, not even an hour of honest work), get back, find out I haven't paused the game, I died from hunger (had no saves, because no Fear & Hunger bible)

I thought I was the only girl who played Evolva in the early 2000s

>>3661705
Boring. No one cares about gamer chud stuff. Better idea - ranking Funger 2 ships

>S tier
Samarina (transgirl x transgirl, 'nuff said, two queens that slap)
>A tier
Samarina + Levi as they torture bitch (to make Marina x Levi non-lesbian transgirls happy)
>B tier
O'saa x Abella
O'saa x Karin
O'saa x Olivia
Tanaka x Marcoh
>C tier
Karin x Daan (only tolerable white people hetship, because Karin slaps the lowkey MAP into shape)
>D tier
Tanaka x any girl
>F tier
Marcoh x Olivia (literal chud self insert ship, "he gave her a wheelchair so now she has to have sex with him", even though Olivia only likes Marina and Levi lol, also Marcoh is 100% gay)

>>3668565
>>3668076
based & intelligent, traditionally attractive white girls need that exotic big hose of osas

How does this compare to Enchant Farm?

>be O'saa
>roll Rhabdophobia
>shit my pants every time I pass a mirror

>>3669279
>Rhabdophobia
>The fear of being beaten with a rod.
Why would Osaa be afraid of himself then? Is he gonna beat himself with his own Chac Chac?

>>3669318
In game it's described as fear of magic.

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>>3662114
Which of these two options leads to anal rape? I'm playing it in the original Russian language for added challenge, and I can't read anything.

What's your favorite OST theme for both games? For Termina it's obviously the Orphanage theme from Miro's work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziiToG6-DYg
but Lost Haven is best overall.

>>3669349
Wait a second, Wayward Souls was also made by the same guy who did Lost Haven. The absolute state of Miro.

>>3669344
>original Russian language
Its Slovenian.

>>3669349
>1
Tomb of the Gods (past mahabre version)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5KwdW18B0_M
>2
The apartment theme
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8RdI8-XwGQk

First time playing Termina before all the meta stuff is figured out and normal runs become easy, the apartments were pretty difficult, and the soundtrack and creepiness was just top notch. Probably the pinnacle of horror within the series.

>>3668988
They're such different games that there's no comparison.

>>3669344
probably the second, it say something along the lines of "I will put out for you, rascal. I will pound you on a carpet."
the first would translate close to "it is what it is" or "it can't be helped"

Father Hugo = Judge Holden
Levi = The Kid

What kind of game is Fear and Hunger in Las Vegas? Always see people talk about it but don't know why

>>3669920
Western made JRPG with action & survival-horror game elements

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>>3668565
This is the best ship

>>3670059
Crackship

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>>3670059
I respectfully disagree.

>>3670059
Abella would never fuck a cis white guy
>>3670075
Better, but Osaa is best for crushing Nazis

Bad timing OP, we now know objectively how to play maso good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-tknA-mApA

>>3670109
It took me less than 37 hours to beat the game on Masoχ-S/M with all characters and I didn't have some gay discord to consult with.

Russian transfolx community has added more content to Fear & Hunger than the dev added to Termina since that's released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqQo1WMQV0g
ПPABA TPAHC-ЛЮДEЙ — ЭTO ПPABA ЧEЛOBEКA

>>3670477
>they censored the retarded person, now he is a rotten cultist

Did Termina get an update this week?? I swear I saw something new in the text adventure for O'saa. I can't remember the details, because I was just fast-forwarding through the text, having done the adventure lots of times already, but I think... after I got the rope, when I was coming back top, there was a prompt to use Iron Spear / Hurting / or evade a monster on the way. That is not mentioned on the wiki:
https://fearandhunger.wiki.gg/wiki/O%27saa
The third option I remember explicitly had the word "slip" (slip away) in it, and that avoided the combat entirely. As you can see, no "slip" in the article if you go CTRL+F.

Why is there so little little girl hentai?

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>>3670848
Fujos pushed out the cunnyenjoyers in most fandom spaces. Even D'arce, who is clearly an adult, still gets the fujos butthurt when people make "male gaze-y" fanart of her. Then in places where cunny is tolerated all the gay rape filters people.

Speaking of the girl I've been making good progress on the next update. While looking through old threads, I found out that someone actually made a bunch of new sprites for the girl (like her using engarde or using the suicide skill) that were never implemented into the original JasAnon mod so I'm adding them in. I was thinking of commissioning the rest of the sprites I need. It only cost 15$ to get the girl's husk sprited.

>>3666502
To be fair Sylvian didn't let you make love to the girl in the first game so it would be a retcon for the priest being able to do it.

>>3670937
Sylvian don't actually stop you from making love to the girl. If you try, you only get the message that the girl is unwilling, and a marriage can only be done with willing participants. It's the same reason attempting a marriage will fail with the other heroes if they refuse to participate. Considering you can make a marriage with animals and mindless ghouls, my interpretation is that anything that doesn't try to resist counts as consenting by Sylvian standards.

>>3670896
What are them sprites in the middle? I never seen those

How would The Girl react if I offered to put my dick in her mouth? Children love spotted dicks, right

>>3670943
Lorewise, would doppelgangers count the same as animals and ghouls? If so, Olivia can get working legs again if she put her doppelganger in the circle.

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>>3671027
Top to bottom
>giving a *kissu* before marriage sex
>her head hurts when you beat her on the head as an abusive husband
>fart start
>fart finished

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>>3671027
The ones with the billowing dress? I have no idea, it seems to be an unused sprite.

>>3671071
I think so, although she'd probably come out looking like a slightly fucked up looking Olivia instead of original Olivia. It makes me wonder if "normal" marriages would be more common in a war time setting. Like if someone got their legs blown off by a mine, and someone else was blinded by shrapnel and they met at the hospital, how many people in situations like that would marry to become whole again?

Also adding in Le'garde en'garde animation.

Why do you think Black Souls is more popular than this game? is it the challenge?

>>3671154
black souls is nowhere near as popular

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>>3671154
I don't know what game that is but I assume it's because it's tagged as "loli" and "eroge" so I assume it has sex scenes with this girl.

>>3671196
tags can't be trusted, sometimes people put "loli" on game where everyone is 21+

>>3671158
Their thread move faster though.

>>3671750
>a small group of vocal mouthbreathers who spam the same waifu garbage and walls of spoilered nonsense is indicative of how large a game's fanbase is
The fact that you believe this only proves that Fear & Hunger "fans" are even bigger retards than Black Souls fans.

>>3671753
I don't understand

What is the best ending?

>>3672023
Whatever ending you like the best, same as any other video game. Some games I like saving the world and being the good guy, other games I love killing everyone and destroying everything. Pick a character you like and do whatever you like, that's the entire point of games.

>>3672023
For the first game, it's objectively Ragnvaldr > Enki > D'arce, because these three are canon. Cahara's ending is the happiest but it's also not canon, because since all the other endings are canon, someone had to delve into the gauntlet with the girl and die so that the girl could ascend.

In the second game, all endings are shit except Ending A + saving everyone. B endings are supremely boring.

I refuse to play Termina until it gets goat banger content creators like Fapollo. I refuse to listen to some gay spic furry who can barely speak English. The fact that Fapollo won't play it proves it's a shit game tbqh

>>3668565
O'saa has a little black clitty though

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Working on implementing girl using the bonesaw on her arm. Normally she can't use the saw on herself, so I have to add copy and paste the event to every map, and then do it again for her sawing off her left leg and right leg.

>>3672422
That's not what Nas'hrah says.

>>3672289
Frapollo has been playing Termina and will be probably eventually start doing Termina videos. He played the Samarie mod for it a while ago. He thinks she's pretty.
https://www.youtube.com/live/nN_EqzBu9Rk

>>3672289
>goat banger content creators
I don't think there's that sort of content for Black Kalev, though it probably could be modded in.

>>3672590
Nas'hrah is just a gooner without a cock like a lot of the people that's prob fanservice for

I need the new termina update also Miro should add an option to plap Marina and get him pregnant

>>3673062
real but i want her to plap me

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In the playable Le'garde and Girl marriage mod, you can't dig up your own corpse in flipside like you can in the other characters. I was going to add in the option to do so for Le'garde and the girl, but I realized that the gravestone shows the birthdates and I don't know when they were born. How old do you think Le'garde and the Girl are? For comparison, D'arce is 24 according to her tombstone.

3673151
I hate pedophiles

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>>3673340
hate pedos
hate the church
hate mariners dad
love marianna
shrimple as

>buy Small Thing Amulet
>got my 20 Agi
>find another Amulet in a random barrel

How do you cope when you die to some boss that should've been easy you just got a bit unlucky on the damage roll/misses? I just lost 2+2 hours of my life, and I had 2 unused saves in the bag... I cried in my pillow.

>>3673763
adjust your strategy so luck isn't a factor

I don't want the new Termina update, it will definitely ruin Abella because everyone is lusting at her.

>>3673607
Has anyone ever found a Salmonsnake Rune in a chest? I always get them from barrels. And they're especially common when you get double rewards (or two triggers?) from the same barrel. I don't know if that's a bug from when you mash barrels too fast, or any barrel has a low chance for two rewards.

>>3674011
I can't recall specifically doing so but you should be able to. Regular containers don't have rare loot on their drop table, instead have a small chance to roll the same rare loot table chests have instead of their usual one. So it would be pretty strange if you couldn't.

>>3673349
hate shippers
church bad but interesting
hate shippers
behead shippers

>>3662028
>>3662032
pretty obvious that you dislike F&H judging from your taste. you don't really play alot of JRPGs anyway


>>3661992
F&H2 isn't in this pic so what are you talking about? There is barely any porn in the game

Marina looks just like me, haha, but I am a boy

>>3674010
How can she be ruined if she already on Osaa BBC?

Has anyone ever been hungry in Fear & Hunger 2?

>>3673151
>but I realized that the gravestone shows the birthdates
I actually never picked up on that before lol. How old are the other three playable characters?

>How old do you think Le'garde and the Girl are?
I assume legarde is definitely older than darce, probably older than cahara and enki, younger than ragnvaldr is my guess. The girl is harder to place - I think she was technically conceived while legarde was captured in the dungeons but she has the physical appearance of 5-8 year old child (lack of food while living in the dungeons probably attributes her to being on the higher end of that) perhaps you could spin it to be like, leaving it blank or implying something like a god doesnt really die or something vague/cryptic like that idk

>>3673763
not gonna lie i dont really have that issue because the game is very much a knowledge check rather than number check. the most heartbreaking run ender I had was finishing up a Ragn hard mode run where I accidentally engaged a bodysnatcher and forgot about him being able to stunlock you to death. definitely sucked but was my fault because i rarely fight them at all and forgot about their mechanics.

>>3675426
>not gonna lie i dont really have that issue because the game is very much a knowledge check
I'd say that's true for Fear & Hunger, but less so for Fear & Hunger 2. Ironically, even though the first game is much harder initially, it becomes so easy that you can almost beat it blind. Fear & Hunger 2 is way easier to beat, especially on the easier difficulties, but while you can still guarantee no loss on the hardest difficulty in the first game, in the second game you can just get unlucky, because no longer does every character have Perfect Guard by default, and there is no guaranteed Salmonsnake Soul.

>>3675459
I agree with you, I don't have as much experience in Termina but even so I still think Maso > hard mode due to the things you said. The first game gives you less items at the start but it always guarantees you enough stuff to complete any run. I even went back to verify and you get like 9 free guaranteed soul stones in every mode which is more than enough to complete Ragn's hard mode S ending. Termina feels a lot more random overall (which i do think should get points taken off for being a bit imbalanced) and longer too, so there's more chances to make errors. They did compensate by giving a very limited amount of saves though, and by midgame most things are marginalized out that you can transition a victory if you didnt get completely obliterated by rng early.

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>>3675426
>How old are the other three playable characters?
From youngest to oldest, Dar'ce is 24, Cahara is 26, Enki is 29, and Ragnvaldr is 31. If you visit the grave as a marriage, it will show the grave of whatever character you started off as.

The girl is tricky to place, since when you go to the past, which is hundreds of years ago, and meet Nilvan she is already pregnant. It could be possible that past Nilvan was somehow able to travel to the present and get knocked up by Le'garde before traveling back which could possibly make the girl hundreds of years old unless the pregnancy took a really really long time.

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>>3661992
The art and aesthetics of F&H is very interesting but the actual gameplay is fake difficulty at its max and the actual dialogue writing is really shit.

It has the Pathologic problem where I just want to soak in the atmosphere and explore but I can't because I'm on a ticking clock.

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>>3665163
>edge lord visuals and writing
>shipping bait

That's all you need to make a "kino" indie game that will attract the stereotypical weird NBK manchild, troon, and midwit arrested development forever teenager fanbase. There's no secret to it.

>>3675884
>because I'm on a ticking clock.
There is no ticking clock in the second game, because food is almost infinite.
There is no ticking clock in the first game if you get peppa pig, other than the Le'garde timer on lower difficulty.

>>3675884
It's funny how to me, while I do kinda enjoy the atmosphere, gameplay is the #1 appeal of Fear & Hunger games. Something about the combat style is really appealing to me, the way there's no grind like in normal JRPGs, the way that usually avoiding combat is a good thing, and all the possible routes towards your end goal. Seems like most of the fans (especially in the mainstream) are "loving that Dark Souls vibe, so Berserk, so wow" and the "characters". But to me, it's gameplay >> sound & music > setting > characters/story.

>>3675366
I once died from hunger because I forgot I had the game running while I was chilling in the bar to refresh my mind for free.

why Russian likes this game if it was made by Finngolum?

Was getting abducted and tortured part of Legarde's plan?

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>>3676556
Yes, if you talk to Nosramus he says it was all intentional. According to him, Le'garde was trying to attain the attributes of all the New Gods in before sitting on the chair in order to essentially become a "super New God" which he hoped would be just as strong as the old Gods. The military victories on the surface gave him domination, his possession of the cube gave him enlightenment, constant dreamsex with Nilvan (somehow) gave him the endless attribute, and all his suffering in the dungeon gave him the tortured attribute. It could be possible that him lacking a soul made him uniquely able to do this because in terms of souls he is basically a blank slate or an empty vessel while the attributes of someone else's soul would get in the way of trying to "overwrite" their soul. I had thought Nilvan was the one to initiate the tryst since she needed his seed for her plan to work, but since Le'garde needed her for his own plan maybe it was him who contacted her first and he somehow was able to reach out to her and convince her to bang.

Nosramus doesn't mention it, but I think Le'garde was also trying to mimic Alll-mer's ascension since he was also an influential man who died painfully (and since he is meant to be a Jesus expy, he was probably also tortured plenty before his crucifixion.) Oddly, the girl didn't go the Le'garde route (no domination, no enlightenment, no endlessness, maybe some torture) and was still able to become a god. It was possibly because she had similar origins as All-mer, assuming the "false god" who fathered him was a new god and his mother was a prophesied figure like Le'garde (or maybe she was just soulless like Le'garde.)

What's Nosramus's genderfluid?

>>3676600
Woman

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What do japs think about the game? I've seen a few here and there post art of it

>>3676825
>I've seen a few here and there post art of it
I would be shocked if more than 10 japanese people played it

>4chan chud yt channel
>gets like 90% of the things he gets wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPa1McDRBtk
Why are 4channelers so weak?

Why does this game not have Clout Saves

>>3677610
>Clout Saves
Its RPG Maker

Are Death Masks ever explained in lore?

>>3677653
Symphony of War is an RPG Maker game and it has

>>3677379
4chud cannot compete with professional YouTube essayist-in-training:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH-1jhk9c78

>>3677702
Yes, mask explains they were are old corpses from before the war and the occult ritual of their burial combined with termina festival brings them back to life

>>3677736
How do I get the Daan scene where he's hugged from behind by cat?

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So I was trying to come up with alternative dialogue/actions for when the girl uses the talk skill in battle. I had planned to have her do non-verbal actions, but this feedback makes me reconsider. The girl can talk, but I wouldn't say that she can speak "just fine" like Anon says. She only ever speaks in two specific situation in the unmodded game. Once is when you talk to her while she is at max affection, implying a high level at trust. Another is when you try to calm her when she is freaking out due to low sanity, again requiring max affection. So she is more likely to talk to someone who has earned her trust instead of any old rando she comes across. And during the rare occasions she does talk, she speaks with parenthesis, which I interpret as her speaking very softly. It's true that she rarely uses gestures to communicate, but that is mainly because she rarely attempts to communicate other than nodding or shaking her head as a yes or no. So I think for her talk options I will try to lean towards gestures but if a one-word response will do, I'll use that (like the "Please don't!" option for talking could perhaps be replaced with "(Stop!)")

>>3676825
>>3676849
The Japanese tag on Pixiv doesn't even have one page, so I guess it's pretty unknown there. Has there ever been a translation patch for it?

Seeing that nobody else managed to replicate the magic of Funger so far, guess the dev isn't as bad as the haters make him out to be huh?

>>3677869
you literally just play as Daan and keep him alive until he Moonscorches

>>3678643
By sleeping on Day 3 night? Does anyone else get special scenes like these? Pretty sure I didn't get that scene when I got moonscorched from walking outside.

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Darce looks like an aylmao

>>3676180
Both cultures have an appetite for the grim and depressing.

>>3678889
Never happen to me

>>3678896
you could say it's an acquired taste

Felvidek confirmed FUNGERlike!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcGGc3ZrK7U

We memed it into reality, sisters:)

Needles cameo in Balatro soon

>>3665163
Elbow room for the dev to do what they want. Resources are more limited for them but a free story unbothered by brain dead corporate suits is very healthy for seeing an art piece properly realized by the creator.

>>3679067
Whomst

Is Stitches really supposed to be that intimidating? She's so easy to dodge in the tunnels and even if you want to kill her, you can just use guns, but why would you? Her loot is less rewarding than villagers. The whole forest bunker needs to be reworked to be honest, the owl cultists outside are about 300 times more dangerous than the actual "bosses" (Stitches and Centaur) in the bunker.

Stitches gets snitches.

>>>/lgbt/38334964

>>3679945
What's all this then?

>>3679570
>owl cultists outside are about 300 times more dangerous than the actual "bosses" (Stitches and Centaur) in the bunker
bait

>>3680225
It is objectively true. Owl Cultists can actually fight you. Owl Cultists can poison you even if you don't fight them. Stitches and Centaur are harmless.

>>3680225
>>3680269
i mean stitches is even worse in battle than an owl cultist :P

>>3680348
The point is, you don't have to ever engage in battle with Stitches. Even if you don't want to move fast you can just bait her slowly somewhere and then walk around her. If you ranked enemies based on "you must fight them all" then the strongest enemy in the game is the pile of shirts, because its invincible and eventually drains your sanity (maybe).

Christmas update soon

>>3681090
what year

They don't celebrate Christmas in Finland

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>>3682033
They celebrate Ramadan instead.

>>3682084
Name of this meme?!?

No Christmas happened...

>>3682949
They lied!

>>3682949
Finland rightfully belongs to Russia (even if they don't realize it yet), as such they should have East Orthodox Christmas in January.

Are all the contestants playable yet?

>>3683464
Not without a mod.

>>3677721
Symphony of war was only partially made in RPG maker.

>>3683464
When previously unplayable contestants became playable, did they get new skills? I can't imagine Tanaka being playable with his nothinburger skill tree only. Maybe he could start with 40 shekels.

Is there any news from Miro of Discord?

Miro is Finnish by nationality but ethnically deep down he is Russian. That's why F&H is quintessentially Russian.

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>>3684450
He posted this a week ago:

>Update on the update -

>I've been in radio silence mode for a while now. Some might know that the upcoming Termina Version 2.0 was in testing a while back. Feedback from testing made some shortcomings more apparent and I felt like I really needed to address some of those issues before releasing the build in the public.

>In short: The map has become larger with new locations and thus there's more walking around - a new shortcut (sort of) was made that goes through the city to hopefully alleviate some of the pains.(Probably doesn't help at all) More things were slapped on top of the existing lore and story without many answers, some answers and fleshing out was in order. And the Terror X Starvation difficulty was too easy because most people seemed to finish it without too much starting over. (Testers did call some things absolute bs, but ultimately they did finish the mode, so as such - too easy)

>That's what I've been working on. The update has been bloating steadily like one would hope at this point. The radio silence made some people worry, but you can rest assured that the update has been in the works all this time. No problems per se other than my absolute lack of scheduling skills.

He also shared some screenshots. 1/4

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>>3684728
2/4

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>>3684729
3/4
Gonna be honest, I think these enemies look kinda lame.

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>>3684730

>>3661705
People actually like the sequel? Game fell off hard.

>>3684740
How to fix Termina: Retcon Marina into an actual girl

>>3684730
Jesus Christ, what the absolute fuck is this? Mob replaced by The Diversity Squad!?

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>>3684778
I dunno. I mean O'saa is black and he fits fine into the game. Abella and Karin are girls and they fit into the game. Even Marina who is a fucking tranny and wheelchair-bound Olivia fits into the game. So there isn't anything wrong with the enemies being girls or black. But something about these guys DON'T fit, they look like kickstarter backer self-inserts.

>>3684730
lmao

>>3684778
other members of the nlu

>>3684778
>>3684808
>NLU is literally Diversity Rebel Alliance
Based, Nazis malding

>>3684819
>4 white girls
>1 black girl
>diversity alliance
you need to realize that the way you see the world is fucked

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>>3684822
>1 black girl

>>3684778
begone chud, this is a /lgbt/ safe space

>>3662005
Dragon Age: The Veilguard

when we getting them cheevs?

>>3661992
Based as fuck

>>3684728
>but ultimately they did finish the mode, so as such - too easy
based

>>3684787
i wish marina would fit in me

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>>3685023
Clammy, bony, and pale fingers wrote this post

Shouldn't Marina look like Samarie?

>>3685577
Samarie looks the way she does because she has been getting blood drained + fucked by priests her whole life.

>>3685592
But Samarie looks like a man with lots and lots of makeup on. It's perfect.

>>3663891
Um, sir, there already was a playable girl mod? Heckin frapster played it years ago?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGpQHk9oBw0

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>>3685864
Ackshually that's not a mod, Frapollo exploited bugs and debug tiles to play as the girl in the unmodded game.

Although I think it is kind of funny that he said it would just take "a couple of hours" to make the girl a main character in the game, it's been taking me months! Although to be fair a lot of that time is spent hunting down bugs to fix. I'm really glad he made that bugfix mod which makes fixing bugs faster. I swear everytime I open up this game in RPGmaker I find a new bug or a new typo.

>>3685928
Wash ur damn hands girl, gross

>>3661992
Black Souls is actually good, but the rest of your image is correct.

>>3661992
>Black Souls
The setting is avant-garde enough to largely minimize its H-game associations
>MGQ
It and Rance are the quintessential millennial H-games
>Trial & Error
It's not 5/10 but 50/50
>SEQUEL
On point.
>LonaRPG
The seething developer made controls janky on purpose to try to filter players lol
>Demon Roots
It's just an average H-game, not really popular. Whoever mentioned it must have been caught in its fotm release posts

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>>3686836
Stop giving retarded contrarian bait posts serious responses. They don't deserve it.

>>3686900
This but AIII-mer

>>3686932
who are you quote?

>>3682033
Santa's home village is in Lapland you stupid idiot baka.

aliens in Fear & Hunger 3 (always sometimes monsters with 16 nonbinaries and no combat)

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>try Termina properly for the first time
>easy mode
>almost got to the town but decided to backtrack for the woodsman's head
>got too nosey on my way back from the woodsman house and got right into a pike pit
And now I thought easy mode would have rusted nails only or something more obvious like bear traps. I got used to roguelikes somewhat but replaying funger games up to your previous death progress still feels like a waste of time. Setting and art along with the fan ones are captivating though.

>>3661992
>sequel
I don't know about other games but Blight has quite serviceable gameplay, respecing for new builds is fun.
>Lona
It tries to scare the player as if it's funger but it's actually easy to reach the comfortable breakpoint in combat.

>>3688046
funger isn't roguelike, the loot in crates is rng, but level design, enemy placement, and most boss drops are fixed - that's why it rewards game knowledge and that's why it feels so repetitive

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Funny, I thought in-game Bohemia was using vvestern rvnes, not cyrillic at least, considering how scarce is the information about Voroniyans.

>>3688121
> HAЦИOHAЛЬHЫЙ CTAЛЬHOЙ КOTЛ
He missed letter 'Ё''.
Bohemia in fact Gzechia, so there should be cyrillic, of course.

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>>3688169
Good humor although Bohemia should be the least eastern part of Eastern Union. Even soviets irl weren't that eager to convert writings of its western parts. So Miro made the bunkers alien not only to the occultist theme of game's setting but also to Prehevil itself.

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>>3688048
Lona tries to shock with the first impression - if you misunderstand or underestimate the stamina system you can easily die right in the tutorial. When you make it past the tutorial, you're likely to get messed up by any random encounter, unless your first instinct is to run away. But if the game doesn't filter you within first few hours, you're in for smooth sailing.

>>3688188
You are right about stamina. On the other hand I found it harder to figure out the local economics. It was frightening to leave the city not because of encounters but how easy it is to be left with 0 resources and soft lock yourself in the middle on nowhere. After getting accustomed you realize... how plotless the game is right now. You are here literally just to farm dosh for that boat ticket and even reincarnate a few times to do this. Who knows when the dev decides to shift his focus to make a proper main quest.

Which of the girls in the second game can you date at max social links?

>>3688264
Huh?

>>3688264
which mod?? does it have abella seks scene?

>>3666502
He's pulling a Scott Cawthon. Originally Purple guy/Will Afton was a homicidal pedophile who used the animatronics to hide evidence but then Cawthon realized pedophile villains aren't le heccin wholesome (aka marketable) so he retconned Afton as just being a child murderer. Also, Freddy Krueger's backstory was that he was a homicidal pedophile and he's VERY marketable. The idea that some concepts are too gratuitous when it comes to horror is laughable. Revulsion is the point.

https://mandapandaprojects.com/pine-cone-farm-animals-kids-craft/

An actual pinecone pig guide! Sans the paint and decorations and you're good to go.

>>3677379
>>3677736
All you need to be an essayist is a high school-level writing ability, a decent mic, and then a thumbnail by an artist you commissioned. Boom. There's your career.

>>3684778
Nancy Drew and the Clue Crew are here to murder you.
JK, they're ryona bait

>>3688441
>Freddy Krueger's backstory was
It's about a dozen different things.

>>3684730
>>3684778
>>3684787
French Resistance partisans in need of a polishing round or two.

Both fear and hunger games are absolute masterpieces and deserve far more recognition

>>3690313
The fact that people unironically hold opinions like this is an absolutely bleak omen.

>>3690317
What games do you like

>>3690321
Balatro for example.

Can I play this as an actual RPG unlike F&H1? By that I mean, can I just play whatever character I want and, you know, roleplay? Or is it still a knowledge check-heavy "have the wiki, or better yet, a walkthrough open on a second monitor at all times" kinda game like the first one?

>>3691608
I beat and got all the endings in both games without ever touching a wiki, guide or video. I do RP shit too. Just use your brain?

>>3691614
It's more of an issue of me not having enough patience for the obtuseness, but good for you man

>>3691615
I play all games super patiently with lots of rp autism so it comes naturally to me

>>3691625
I think I just cannot stand replaying long stretches of a game several times in a row

>>3691626
I try to use deaths as an excuse to try wildly different shit next time instead of just retracing my steps. Also think it helps for fear and hunger that you get randomized loot so looting everything gives different stuff if you die and can lead to different setups and experiences

I actually loved second game and found it incredibly immersive, but its bizarre to me how this game attracts so many mentally ill people who need to force their headcanon degeneracy unto everything

>>3688444
I made it and encountered at least 20 enemies on the street (anyone outside my apartment is an enemy to me) and it didn't bring me anything.

I noticed when August uses the helm splitter attack to decapitate someone, it uses the text for when crow mauler pecks someone’s head off from the first game

>>3692018
>I noticed when August uses the helm splitter attack to decapitate someone
The what now? I thought he uses a bow only.

>>3692043
He does, whenever you fight him, he shoots one of your party members in the head with his bow and arrow