Prague, Anno Domini 1205.
>>3627344As you wish.
>>3627342Just take me back
>>3627342To Sin Bin, I have some unfinished business
To the sequel, sir.
>its not a paki driverimagine paki dracula
>>3627462Cain is from Middle Eastern mythology so technically he's Middle Eastern so not that different
>>3627342I am no longer here.
>>3627462DO NOT DIABLERIZE; SIR
>>3627342Anywhere but here.
>>3627534The original middle-easterners were white. They had blonde hair and blue eyes.
>>3627795evem Pheniciant never had blonde hair. i dont think you know much about genetics. in fact i dont think you know mycha bout anything at all
>>3627872>even the (((Phoenicians/Canaanites)))
>>3627795>WE WUZ THE ORIGINAL HEBREWS N SHITStupid nordicist garbage.
>>3628604I used to entertain the validity of “Christian Identity”, and what convinced me it’s false was sitting down and reading the entire Old Testament cover to cover.
>>3627342Just drive...
>>3627342Chinatown, gotta kill me a fishman and fuck a samurai girl
>>3627342Page 10, keep the (You)'s
>>3628604wtf lol why was my post deletedis the janny a christian identarian
>>3628986Based newfag.
>>3628986The janitor makes these awful threads because he hates rpgs and doesn't play them.
>>3629183Based newfag.
>>36273422004. Back to the memories and kino. Back to when I met my buddy playing counter-strike source, and all the adventures we went on for years. Back to when I had passion to work on my projects, and had hope I'd find the perfect woman. When the future still looked bright, and I hadn't yet become the cynical middle-aged man I've become.Can you take me there, Cain?
>>3629194You can’t go home again, anon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XheYpT7-7sEalso source engine sucked hl1 was better, tighter movement and guns, less floaty
>>3627795Go home Totentanz, you drunk
>>3629194Shame Wesp spends all his time making nothing arbitrary changes to his unofficial patch rather than make some actual mods for the game. I thought Prequel had promise even if it was jank as hell, mostly in the writing. But playing as a Hunter was fun and the oil rig section was a legitimately interesting idea, if a little unpolished. Would've preferred him going down the mod route rather than tarnishing his legacy with these arbitrary changes.
To that general feeling of hopefulness and wanderlust.
>>3627342Deb of Night's house my good sir!
I just finished the sewers and honestly it wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. I took the wrong turn every time and killed everything lmao. Great atmosphere. >>3627342https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvknOXGPzCQ
>>3629194https://youtu.be/7hwaLaBkjtQanon...
>>3630377it's only bad if you have literally 0 dots in any form of combat
>>3630377There are some mods that change clans of Bloodlines like Final Nights and Antitribu. Those clans aren't integrated well narratively as you probably guessed, I mean they're just mods after all, but some of the clans actually have very fun combat disciplines and combat heavy areas become very fun with them
>>3630377It's just very tedious to go through and unnecessarily long.
>>3627342>tfw same voice actorM'aiq wishes you well
>>3627342Away from Paradox, thankfully.
>>3630377man, i wish some modder would just take the concept and storytelling, add some notes, some more locked ammo boxes, make it less linear and more vertical and the level would actually be good, i wonder if i could open up vtmb and remake this level to not suck :P
Has anyone used the wargames mod?https://www.moddb.com/mods/masquerade-war-games
>>3635197Plot makes no sense and voice acting is some of the worst you will ever hear with russian nazis with cheapest microphones under the sun.
>>3635197It's an excellent case study in a designer's grasp exceeding their reach. The plot is absolutely batshit insane (those parts I could decipher from the aggressively ESL writing and voice acting), and the side-quests are a mixed bag of ideas. It's impressive what they managed to do in an engine that fights you as hard as Bloodline's unfinished version of Source, but it has serious execution issues in writing and presentation. I wonder if they had just committed to text and gotten a better translator if it would come off as unpolished.
>>3627394>sequelNo, nope. It will be slop made for the "modern audience".
>>3627342Just played this for the first time recently and I really enjoyed it, but now I'm really struggling to find an RPG that scratches the same itch. I tried Mass Effect for the first time but I don't like the setting at all.Might replay KOTOR II or something, somehow I think it's the most similar game I'm aware of in terms of roleplaying mechanics and story progression.
>>3635496If you haven't played them, try Deus Ex Jensen duology, those are somewhat similar games. Hub worlds are reasonably detailed, full of hidden stuff to discover and side quest to find.
>>3635497Why recommend Jensen games instead of the original DX? Bloodlines is obviously influenced by it
>>3635497Thanks, that does look like what I'm looking for
>>3635499>Why recommend Jensen games instead of the originalDespite being revolutionary at the time of release i don't believe that original deus ex aged well. Gameplay is stiff and boring, voice acting is camp as hell and low fidelity 3d is just ugly.
>>3635551this anon has awful taste. first one still holds up really well. if you really cant handle the style, GMDX does a good job of gussying it up without going too far
>>3627342>Where to?Your mom's house.
The clan quest mod fucking sucks and the fanbase was memed into thinking it's the gold standard. It's not, the writing is terrible, the voice acting is worse (but it's forgivable for a bunch of amateurs), and the quests not only break established setting lore but also the game-established canon.The Sabbath area is fun for one playthrough, but hearing "EY I'M A VAMPIRE, GOT SUPERPOWERS N SHIT, CHICKA." from a mexipire is fucking hilarious every time. That's all the good parts summed up.The Tremere quest, touted as the shining example, is 14 year old's idea of what deep philosophical thoughts are.>Are you eviiil?>Why you gotta huuuurt?>Who are yooooou?The other ones are edgelord cringe (the one with VV being the worst one).
>>3635973Yeah I never tried the Tremere clan quest, I was very annoyed that the Ventrue Clan Quest had very little to do with my being a Ventrue and was more of an exploration of Assamite and Sabbat lore than anything to do with the Ventrue. Sabbat area is way more fun playing as a Camarilla Infiltrator than as a Sabbat member, and while it was kinda fun in a dumb fanfic way, the endgame of the Sabbat route is pretty stupid. They write themselves into a corner and the only reason LaCroix doesn't just win is the Sheriff botches your execution for some unknown reason.
>>3635496>but now I'm really struggling to find an RPG that scratches the same itchWelcome to the club. Enjoy your impending decades of suffering.
>>3635973The writing has some major issues, like Andrei wanting to open the sarcophagus but I still think for most part it's great and I'm just going to call you a faggot
>>3637307what's moot up to these days?
>>3635496Play VtM:R.
>>3637329not similar to bloodlines at all
>>3637332Yes and no. Depends why he liked Bloodlines. I played it long after playing bloodlines and I ended up really liking it. Obviously the perspective and combat is different, but it’s the same source material and world, and the atmosphere is great, as are the characters and story (one of the greatest love stories in video game history imo)
>>3637309he works for google and raises a crotchspawn (presumably of his own making)
>>3637307The writing has major issues like almost every clan quest being a complete divergence from either>the tone of the game>the established lore (in-game and book)>suffering from major ow-the-edge"VV was actually a Sabbat rape victim who made snuff films with Death Mask!! Do the quest and you'll break her mind and her club will close forever!"Or the fucking tranny-jin quest, where if you don't follow the quest to the letter you'll get damaged by pink mists coming out of sewer drains for the rest of the game.>>3637818Hasn't worked for Google for a few years now.I wonder if he was happy as a product manager and "social media expert" there. I wonder if he misses the toxicity and vileness; if there's an emptiness and has to, just occasionally, post on /v/ to gall about whatever he hates today.
>>3627342>we will NEVER have a hunter immersive sim
>>3638199Imsim for hunters would be pretty tough, since you'd need to account for how squishy and weak realistic humans are without making the gameplay anti-fun.
>>3635497>>3635496seconding the new dude sex games and adding alpha protocol
>>3627342home
>>3639973those cars are moving extremely fast
>>36273422000, where most of the fags in vrpg aren't alive yet.
>>3627795Incredibly BASED and CORRECT.
>>3635197I have played through the entirety of this mod solely because I appreciated the effort. I will call it a solid 5/10 out of respect, not pity, but the ending alone drags it down.>nazi russiansthe entire story is about fighting the nazis which is hyper retarded as their big story surprise was that you were sired by the Sabbat and your boomer Sire feared technology
It's kinda crazy that back in 2004 being a neo nazi vampire was a given example of a character backstory for the World of Darkness pen and paper RPG, and then for the later editions they had to say that having nazi vampires is advised against as it might upset other players
>>3627342Why is he white?
>>3627374>The name's Flynn. Flynn Boyle. And I'm the proprietor of this here establishment. Anything you want, you can get at the Sin Bin. 'Depraved' ain't a four-letter word here, you know what I'm talking about?Permavirgin here, what does he mean by the 4 letter word??
>>3640665The game is set in the last century, back then cab driving wasn't all pakis.
>>3640669Sar, I was asking because Cain is a Semitic person, he should be at least very tanned skin.
>>3640665He isn't, my blind friend.
>>3640668Sex(s)
>>3640670he does have a tanned skin though and that's despite being a vampire so he looks like how a semitic vampire would lookyou can see how pale European vampires are in game with Lacroix, Ventrues and otherstechnically none of them should be this pale while interacting with humans but this game forget about blush of life completely, they even show their fangs to everyone
>>3640668Anon.
>>3640668Its a figure of speech, google "four-letter word" my virgin ESL friend.
>>3640714it's quite amazing how often your financial situation growinng up determines how you will look
>>3640714I think not showing the blush of life was intentional so players could tell at a glance who the other vampires were.
>>3640967Is there anything in the lore that says if vampires can see straight through it? Maybe they do look tanned and lively to normies.
>>3641201Maybe? I've been playing a homebrewed VtM to VtR rules conversion for so long I don't remember which things are inherent to the vampire template by default in Masquerade. Did you know that in Masquerade, you need Protean 1 to have better night vision than a normal human? Weird.
My favorite race? Ventrue (whites). My favorite ending? Independent, because you're not allowed to take over the Cumrilla.
>>3641201no, you need auspex to see if someone is a vampire or other kind of natural
>>3640967Probably.Otherwise it would have been Vampire the Masquerade without vampires because monkee see monkee feel and everyone would have complained that it feels like GTA without vehicles. Its pretty business as usual to cast aside some parts of the pnp to make a video game more presentable or work in its limitations. You shouldnt be unable to just randomly walz trough the nightlife of downtown as seriously disfigured Nos but you can etc.That said I would have loved it as it would have added so much mechanically to the game to use auspex not just for stats, maybe even in dialogue, etc.
I never understood why the vampires were like "yeah Jeannette can use magic to fuck". I mean I get that the male vampires might not get it up because dead dick (but even that don't make no sense, cuz intro). But why was Mercurio like "you can't or don't do that sort of thing!".
>>3642467Having sex as a vampire is mainly a high humanity thing, Mercurio learned that vampires don't have sex from LaCroix, who is a Ventrue, not exactly a humane clan like Toreador and Brujah, plus LaCroix is low humanity. IIRC If you go with the Tremere ending Strauss tells you that the beast can take many forms and LaCroix's obsession with power and not caring anything else is a sign of him giving into his beast or something like that
First time playthrough, just about to head into a museum. Is this game supposed to be an ImSim? It doesn't seem like one. I'm surprised at how few real missions there have been. That Oceanview House was like the first real one you do, and by the way, talk about huge disappointment. That level is easily THE most talked about part of this game and it was a few jump scares, one diary entry, and then you leave. No payoff, nothing.So far the game has been fine, but nothing outstanding or noteworthy aside from the facial animations which are still impressive. The RPG elements are also strange and don't seem to really effect much either. I chose the Tremere, put my points into domination and guns, but guns fucking suck so every big fight has been: blood purge and then punch them with my like 1 unarmed because it outdamages my guns.
>>3642467Mercurio says can't or don't, he probably asked LaCroix and only got the gist that vampires don't fuck. I like to think he was lying so Jeanette can't pump his ghoul's dick and then pump him for info. Going off tabletop you can fuck if you spend some blood on it, but you don't enjoy the sex itself because it's nothing compared to feeding and you're probably an emotionless serial killer anyway.
>>3643791guns being garbage is only really true for the starter revolver, it should be fine after that
>>3643791You should have the shotgun which does a good amount of damage and knocks most enemies down. I use that until I get to Hollywood, then you can get the Colt Anaconda and the automatic shotgun from Mercurio or Fat Larry I think. Press tab with them to set them to full auto and they melt pretty much anything.
>>3642467Masquerade vampires 100% can fuck, the high humanity only thing you hear repeated often enough is V5 lore and I have no idea why it gets repeated so much. A lot of the biggest perverts in Masquerade are low humanity or not even on humanity at all, the Sabbat is famous for being a bunch of weird sex freaks. VtM even had an official erotica book that has several low or no humanity elders fucking each other. Now I will admit, the official material does waffle on this a lot. Sometimes a book will say "vampires absolutely don't fuck" and then another book will say "they 100% do". Sometimes the same book will contradict itself on this point. Most don't do it because a casual sexual encounter is at best a little less pleasurable than drinking blood for so much more work. Mercurio, as a ghoul, knows only a little more than the player does, and was told by probably LaCroix, or a previous master that vamps don't fuck. Those that do have sex are either doing it as a part of a legitimate romance or have a perversion so strong it actually gets them off enough to be worth doing it instead of feeding. Hell I think the high humanity thing is a weird modernism of trying to be more "sex positive" by saying only high humanity vamps want to fuck for any possible reason.
>>3643837I wanted to use the 9mm uzi, but it has such insane spread that I can only make it effective by stunning people and then standing right next to them unloading it. >>3643906Yeah I got the shotgun from the diner ambush, but it still doesn't seem to compare to stun/punch. It's so slow and does like 20 damage. I'm not aiming at the head though since I didn't expect a in depth system, but I guess I'll try it.
>>3644055Only zombies take headshot damage. How many points do you have in your Firearms stat? I'd always get it up to 5 or 6 by that point and it worked really well for me. But you have to give it time for the crosshair to shrink and get close to the enemy or else not enough pellets hit.
>>3644055>I wanted to use the 9mm uzi, but it has such insane spread that I can only make it effective by stunning people and then standing right next to them unloading it.Also, use this like a semi auto gun unless you're right next to them. Do taps or burst fires. Still need your Firearms skill a bit higher for it to work otherwise the spread is still really high but it was decent enough when I used it a bit during my last playthrough.
>>3644062>>3644063About to load up the game. I'll check out firearm skill.
>>3643791If the hotel didn't hit you then I'm afraid the problem is with you. I don't mean to be insulting or defensive of the game, but it's a genuinely good bit.I'm guessing you're not into horror movies.
>>3644077I love horror movies. It's a dorky stage that's incredible short and mostly uneventful.
>>3643791>That level is easily THE most talked about part of this gameBullshit. The mod to skip it is the second most downloaded following the sewers skip.
>>3644087>Bullshit. The mod to skip it is the second most downloaded following the sewers skip.Do zoomers really?
>>3644089These mods were made before most zoomers were old enough to play this kind of vidya, projecting zoomer trying to fit.
>>3644087you don't need a mod to skip the hotel, just have to know a couple console commands. the only people using it are people too afraid to do it normally or they've already done it before though.
>>3644092>These mods were made before most zoomers were old enough to play this kind of vidya, projecting zoomer trying to fit.I played VtmB when it came out, I was in high school at the time. The sewer has always been regarded as a slog and a low point in the game, but I have never heard of anyone complaining about the hotel, much less installing a mod to skip it. I cannot comprehend feeling the need to do so.
>>3644096nta. Only part I remember people whining about the hotel is whats-her-face getting killed.
>>3640717Nta but that was interesting
>>3644089When you play it enough times it has nothing to surprise you with. There is no roleplaying involved during the quest and you don't need to do anything other than walk and pick up one item.
Alright, played all night and then my game crashed. It was acting really weird and loading into certain screens was causing super low frame rates. I just killed Bach. He ran down from his sniper spot and I camped a building where he couldn't hit me and just whittled his health down. Got back to La Croix and I guess there's supposed to be debris in front of the building but it's not visible. In La Croix's suite, nearly every asset had been replaced with a cabinet. I went back outside and the taxi had also turned into TWO cabinets, stacked awkwardly with the guy floating in them. Then my game just crashed lol. I'm going to be alone on this, but my favorite mission so far has been the sewers. It was substantially long, and drained me of all resources (the ugly vampire boss in the house was incredibly hard and I ran out of all my ammo) which in turn forced me to consider every action, AND it taught me how stealth works in the game. Turns out it's not by sight -- purely numbers. So with my sneaking at 6 I've been strolling past everyone and casting suicide. If I get "caught" I walk into another room and crouch and everyone loses me. I couldn't imagine how easy it would be with even higher sneak. The game has become far more manageable now. tl;dr I'm enjoying the game despite it being horribly unfinished and janky, although I would never consider this a must play classic. It IS in line for a remake to actually finish it.
>>3644227That's your choice. Why are you speeding through it? Do you skip all the dialogue, too?
>>3644314Are you using mods and/or fan patches?
>>3644314The game has memory leak issues that nobody has been able to fix. If you start seeing assets being replaced then all you have to do is restart the game.I liked the sewers too though. I wouldn't say they were my favorite but I didn't really have a negative opinion of it at all after my first playthrough.
>>3643791>The RPG elements are also strange and don't seem to really effect much either.What games do you consider good RPGs?
>>3644357zelda
>>3644331Just that unofficial patch everyone recommends to get the game running. So now I'm on a werewolf boss that seems impossible. I have to survive for three minutes and he kills me in three hits. I ran back to the tram building and figured I'd cheese him by blocking the door, but he hit me through it and then broke it down. I literally have nothing I can do here unless they really expect me to get lucky and juke him around trees for several minutes.
>>3635496Nothing does, really. Very unique game. It is beyond tragic that Troika went out of business because no one else bought it. I generally hate "action" "rpgs", yet this is one of my favorite games ever. The characters as great, the writing witty, the level progression satisfying, and the options fun.
>>3644366Take a look around the observatory. Something might help.
>>3644373I didn't even know there WAS an observatory. I wish the cutscene with Nines didn't play the second you walk outside because I have no idea what my surroundings are and I get no time to look. And it's hitting me now that even though I'm playing the mage class, there's no healing spell or items even. I mean I guess it usually doesn't matter because I can hide and heal. Bosses are really the only thing that comes close to killing me now.
>>3644388in bloodlines all vampires have bloodheal and blood packs heal too
>>3644396What's bloodheal? I don't see that anywhere. I rarely find blood packs either.
>>3644388Tremere have an infinite blood and health generator going once you have enough points in Thaumaturgy. Steal their blood from afar, pop Bloodheal if you need to, that's it.
>>3644366Werewolves in VTM are much stronger than vampires, and this particular one is pretty much impossible to kill without some clever thinking, like the other anon hinted at. You get more exp for "solving" it that way, but your only goal is to not die to the werewolf.
>>3644400Blood Heal is only in the plus patch. You find a few blood packs throughout the game but you can buy them from certain NPCs.
Is there a mod that makes blood frenzy/need to feed/humanity/masquerade and, most importantly, walking as a Nosferatu in the public an actual problem? I remember I barely needed to use the sewers if I just kept my distance on the streets. Humanity meant literally nothing. Masquerade? Had to lose points on purpose to see what happens. Maybe for the first one I remember some mod that made you continuously lose blood.
>>3644592https://www.moddb.com/mods/bloodlines-hard-difficultyThis is the only thing I know of that increases the difficulty for some things but not specifically what you're asking for. I haven't tried it so I can't tell you what it's really like though.
>>3644580Oh okay, I must not have that. Yeah I went through the last bit of blood packs I found during the sewers.>>3644427I'll look around. I just hate having to skip through the dialogue every time just to immediately fail. Maybe I'll make a quick save after and hope for the best.>>3644401I can't tell why BloodStrike only sometimes returns with their blood. I'll stand still and it just randomly comes back. I'm thinking it may be range based too?
https://tiermaker.com/categories/video-games/vampire-the-masquerade---bloodlines-characters-169624>community average ranking of characters
I hate how accurate the Chinese guys are with these uzis! With maxed out firearms these still want to fly out of my hand if I shoot more than one bullet at a time. I guess I should just consider them weak pistols that can carry extra ammo. And also, is there any way to reduce sway when aiming? There's almost no point in zooming in with the few guns that can if the sway is that bad despite my high firearms skill.
>>3644996You maxed out your Ranged stat with Firearms and Perception right?
>>3645023Firearms is maxed and Perception is at a ... 3 I believe. So nearly there.
>>3645029If you get it to 10 the sway on zoom should disappear completely. I'm not sure about the regular uzi but I remember with 10 Ranged I was able to spray the Killmatic SMG without much of a problem too.There isn't much difference between 8 and 10 for Melee but with Ranged it actually makes a difference.
>>3644427>>3644373Okay so I was eventually able to get past this, but I absolutely hated this part. Hands down worst "mission" in the game. It's effective in establishing terror, but I had no clue what to do or where to go and had zero time to experiment and none of my abilities helped. So I don't know how Nine wasn't found by the wolves and killed earlier.Anyway, I ran through the observatory and found a room with a massive telescope and a switch that wouldn't do anything, but by the time I reached that the werewolf found me. I survived by crouch-walking around the telescope and camping on the smallest part of the second floor, behind it as far as I could get without falling off. The werewolf just paced below me and I waited here until the time ran out. Nearly died though escaping because of the way doors work in the game. The tram doors open out, so I ran to them and got caught on them and ate a shit ton of damage right at the finish line. The monster is so fast that I don't know how you'd survive normally without cheesing it like I did and I'm a light, dexterity mage (not sure if there is weight or speed altering stats). I feel like just running through there for 3 minutes straight like Scooby Doo would be torture. gif related. me this whole mission.
>>3645079As a follow up, I made a save after the timer ran up and I could leave, so I could try things out. Loaded that one back up after escaping and ran around the observatory. Eventually found the shack out back with a switch that didn't immediately do anything, but when I went back in, the telescope doors opened. That's when I was like "Oh maybe I can trap him." Strangely though, getting him up TO those doors was awkward as he didn't know where I went and had trouble getting to me. Its not really the game's fault for this, but I'm not sure I would have considered crushing it without some hints as that's not a gameplay mechanic anywhere else. I end up complaining that games are too guided, but when you're asked to actually think for yourself, I have trouble with it, because I'm too autistically focused on what I've been shown is possible! I make things harder on myself for not trying.I appreciate all the people answering my random questions. After I beat this I'm going to restart as a melee user and see how the game feels. See if boss fights are any easier. As a Tremere, I think I've had to cheese every boss I've encountered -- past a certain point.
>>3627342Hey man, I'm lost. Where's a good thread/board to discuss concept games? I'm pretty sure there's a place full of wannabe 4chan game devs somewhere, but I don't know..
The difficulty is so back and forth in VTM. Most enemy encounters are nothing. I have a 6 in sneak and no one can see me, but bosses are so cheap. The game always unequips your weapon and I can't set my keys to anything other than F1-3, so EVERY boss fight starts with me looking down at the keys, finding the gun that I think might work, scrolling like a madman to get the right spell, and taking 2 hits in the process.I have no clue how to defeat Ming. You can't side dodge her vertical swipes and the room is too small. I can shoot her tentacles off, but then that spawns like two extra Mings and they corner me and beat my ass. I just want this damn game over with. Tremere was a bad choice. Blood magic doesn't work on anything beyond goons and it's nearly useless in boss battles. What a shitty class.
>>3645103>The game always unequips your weapon and I can't set my keys to anything other than F1-3Press K to bring up the hotkey menu>I have no clue how to defeat Ming.Pic related. She takes some bonus damage on headshots but not much else you can do. It's an interesting fight but poorly balanced. Don't feel bad if you have to cheat to get past her.>Blood magic doesn't work on anything beyond goons and it's nearly useless in boss battles.Spamming the level 1 Thaumaturgy spelll does a lot of damage. Though if you're using the plus patch with the casting animations it doesn't work as well. I had a lot of fun when I played Tremere, I got Thaumaturgy and Dominate both up to level 3 and that felt like enough to be a decent mage. And it helps if you stock up on blood packs since you don't have to buy much else and it lets you cast without worrying about running out of blood.
>>3627342To Agartha, sirMy shota harem awaits their master.
>>3644979Here's mine
>>3645149>E in E tierheh
>>3627342Why is there so little source_filmmaker porn animations? I want to empty my nutsack to Jeanette and that cringe ass lefty chick who needs a-fixin' with a-dickin'
>>3644979I'm surprised Gary is that high. I agree that he has excellent lines and great voice acting but the guy is still a butthurt Cleopatra. He insults Toreador character for caring about appearances and latest trends while he dresses up skeletons in expensive cltohes in his haven and plays Für Elise to them
>>3643791>Is this game supposed to be an ImSim?No. ImSim is a retarded designation and barely a real genre. It's an action RPG whose story branches near the end, with optional side quests. Your dialogue choices do matter, at times, but the story structure doesn't truly change. At best you lock yourself out of a mission or rewards, but don't really affect most of the story.
>>3645126Okay, the K key is super important and I never knew. That has greatly helped with combat. Much appreciated! I was ONLY able to defeat Ming by again, cheesing her, but accidentally this time. I started hugging up against her, Dark Souls style because she was slow to turn and that seemed to work. She would run away if you stuck to her. The time I beat her, she ran away to the staircase leading to the fight and then got stuck and didn't do anything as I spammed blood strike. I'm interested in trying the game again now. So I did beat it. Thanks for all the help everyone! The ending was surprisingly nothing and anticlimactic. I told Strauss and they showed up and arrested La Croix. Cut to black. I was so fed up with my first playthrough that I was just going to open the sarcophagus in hopes we all died, but I didn't get to. Immediately started up as Gangrel to see how they felt and I'm going melee/unarmed. Already made it up to Hollywood, about to do the sewers! Just knowing how missions go, how the stealth works, and the K key has made this playthrough a breeze!
>>3645323>Immediately started up as Gangrel to see how they felt and I'm going melee/unarmed. Already made it up to Hollywood, about to do the sewers!Dude you're zooming through the game. Take your time, walk around, look around. Listen to Deb.I honestly think you're unable to enjoy the atmosphere at the rate you're playing. Let alone think about what you're actually doing, reading your previous posts.
I think if Deb is half as cute and sexy as her voice, then she must be the prettiest girl in town.
>>3645101Seconding. I'm in the earliest stages of working on an amateur game and would love to just shoot the shit about ideas and design choices with other people.
>>3645334I'm on my second playthrough, why wouldn't I zoom through? My goal was to see how a melee oriented class felt compared to Tremere and turns out, it's been 100x easier. Every boss so far I just pop Fortitude and go to town with my sledgehammer. In one casual sitting I got all the way up to the Leopold Society mission. The game has awesome atmosphere, easily its best feature, but you're greatly overstating how much there is to do in this game. Outside of the few NPC quest givers, you can't talk to people and key characters don't often get new dialogue. I also have no reason to return to my haven because there's nothing there for me -- so I only hear the radio at the gas station in Hollywood.
>>3644366without a hint of irony, I think you should have played this game in a vacation or some such comfier mood.Game is considered immersive thanks to the high amount of details, at least in the first half. Gaming got better and worse since, and few games rewarded me so well for snooping around and finding skill books, secret quest rewards like the werewolf one and useless stuff like the Radio and TV show.On top of that there's also learning about the VtM setting and realizing YOU are special because you have the power of common sense. Jeanette, Ash, LaCroix, Ming are emotionally compromised and either give you speech checks to pull you into their bullshit or cannot be reasoned with
this game is so immature and misogynist towards women
>>3645927>this game is so immature and misogynist towards womenThis is an immature attitude. Maturity is accepting that the misogynists were right, and you were wrong and brainwashed.
>>3645713Because you barely understood what you were doing the first time around. You're blazing through dialogue without reading the subtext of most of them being fuck-ups or attempts at manipulations. You had zero knowledge of what you were doing and either don't explore or are using a guide, but then you couldn't even figure out the werewolf fight. Honestly dude, you're not enjoying the game.Btw, you're able to kill the werewolf with the patches without crushing it. GL.>>3645923This. Maybe it's a generational thing, maybe it's an age thing, but Bloodlines just has a 'vibe', a mood of urban decay and being a terror in the night, recently turned and still remember what it meant to be normal. You have to get into or you don't enjoy it ig.
>>3645974>being a terror in the night, recently turned and still remember what it meant to be normal. You have to get into or you don't enjoy itFor me, it’s VtM:Redemption
>>3645923>>3645974Both of you are completely wrong and also imagining things. So now having beaten it on a second playthrough as a Gangrel melee/fortitude build, if it weren't for the Ming Xiao fight, this would be the easiest way to beat the game. No money spent on ammo or guns, just a few armors. I never needed a single bloodpack until the Ming fight either since my strength meant I could actually drain more of the enemies. With Fortitude nobody could hurt me in regular levels aside from the bigger Sabbat guys. Even the bosses all went down pretty easily. So now I'm going to try once more with a gun build to see how that feels. Oh and I went Hacking since it's improved with Wits, but turns out there are almost no beneficial computers to hack. Most of them just get you some goofy emails. So I think Lockpicking is the right choice. All the way to the end there are high doors that skip chunks of the stages. If the thread is still up I'll report back with my findings.
>>3645149Waifu ghoul girl below Damsel is my only disagreement.
What other games would I like if I love vtmb.
>>3646154Deu Sex
>>3646066>>3645086you don't need to cheese fights as Tremere. Tremere and Toreador are THE cheese clans. Also, I'm not seeing things, I'm not Malkavian.
>>3645927How so? It's full of strong womyn.
The scary head+arms screeching monsters in the sewers are more traumatizing than Nothinghappens Hotel.
>>3627342Is he Cain?
>>3646298No
>>3646305Is he Tim Cain?
>>3646323No, Tim only worked on the boss fight logic. Did you like the boss fight logic in Bloodlines? Tim worked on it.
>>3646179It was a joke, anon.>>3645927The team was talented enough to be able to make a compelling, complex character that looked like a complete slut and didn't come off as vulgar. That's real skill.On the subject of sexy time, when I was 16 the game blew my fucking mind because female NPCs were trying to climb my character and as a baby dyke that felt amazing and unitonically gave me enough confidence to try dating irl.
>>3646333confident or not, you will never be a woman
>>3646450>no girls on the internet, only trannies!!!!Imagine being so afraid of women. You're probably gay.
Jeanette is objectively the most egregious case of relatively popular character with sexy body + disproportionately low material utilizing said sexy body.
i am the only girl itt
>>3646510wrong, there is also me
>>3627795>we wuz sultanz an sheit
>>3640668Naughty word, like "fuck", "shit" or "cunt".
>>3646510As if. It's a girl game. Just like Alice: Madness Returns. Every girl on the board, and statistically there are going to be several, is watching this thread.
>>3645974>Maybe it's a generational thing, maybe it's an age thingNah, there are kids that are quite alright too. Met them online and IRL. He's pretty much incompatible with this game so he's getting frustrated bashing his head at the surface but perhaps some day he'll return to it and be able to appreciate it. At least he's trying, much more than can be said about the majority of that generation.
On a replay now as a Ventrue with guns and turns out guns just stink. The first half of the game is almost entirely melee enemies that all teleport up to you when they strike, which makes shooting them a real pain in the ass. It gets a bit easier in the second half when more carry guns, but with both of these it's far easier and quicker to run up and melee them. It's also easier to strike multiple people this way. Only shotguns carry use because they send foes flying (sometimes), so on 1v1's that's potentially the better option, but melee is still solid. And I think no matter what offense style you choose, Ming Xiao is still going to be unbearable. She's honestly the only thing that needs a patch to skip around. You literally have to build your entire character around dealing with her. Everything else is a piece of cake. Even the Sheriff does almost nothing and has terrible AI.Every time I play, my sessions always end with the memory leak problems. Today when I had to stop because the game wouldn't work, everything in my apartment was a Chinese man rolled up into a ball.
>>3646519>2007>ancient
>>3646584>I'm a boysometimes I wish I was dead already
>>3646582I don't remember having issues with Ming Xiao as a Venture. Maybe I used a flame thrower?
>>3646584If you gays for long into an abyss, the abyss gayses also into you.
>>36465842007 newfags were nearly as old relative to 2016 election tourists, as 2016 election tourists are today, relative to current newfags. Let that sink in.
>>3646645Haha 2007 that's crazy. Imagine being on 4chan for 17 years who would do that haha
>>3646656My account on Something Awful is old enough to drink but I haven’t been able to bear going there for years
>>3646659I've always hated that community (I never posted, but I used to go there for the front page back when they were the vanguard of web culture). Everyone here is an asshole, but you can say what you want to say. So when people are assholes, they are upfront and honest about it. SA were mean spirited hypocrites. Searching the web looking for degenerates to publicly mock while themselves being drug addicts and babyfurs.
>>3646660It worked out in the end.
>>3646660>>3646665While playing IWD2 last year I saw the tombstone for Lowtax and it hits differently nowadays. Rip Moots grandpa
>>3646668He was as good as dead after the Boll debacle.
>>3646645>3 years is the same than 8 years
>>3646496I wish I could be there for Jeanette before she became damaged goods. I would turn her into my tard wife.
>>3646681Anon...
>>3646645>Let that sink in.No, no I will absolutely be doing no such thing.
>>3646817what's this?
>>3646937
>>3647113but how is that related? what is it supposed to say?
>>3627342Lore-accurate Cain.
>>3627342Be quiet and drive (far away)https://youtu.be/FROn3LtGFl0?si=vJJwwUOXP9LhGSym
>>3647522You got any facts to back that up?
>>3645927>>3646179>>3646333Educate yourself. Intellectual woman tells it how it ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xBrSTUeKGA
>>3647649>open link>predict it's a troon, 5s into it>few minutes later: "becoming a vampire is just like joining the trans community"
>>3644089I skip the ocean hotel and the sewer because they're too spooky.
>>3627342>tfw Toreador with Malk bf
>>3650884haven't seen that in a while
>>3650884There's no such thing
>>3650884Is this creature supposed to be a vampire
>Play Clan Quest>get to Chinatown>Added sidequest where some random Kuei-jin girl becomes your vampire gf out of nowhere and you have to do a bunch of coomer shit with her to get the quest xp>ends with "btw I'm trans"great mod
>>3651529>>Play Clan QuestThat's where you made your big mistake
>>3651529you know you liked it
Trans rights are vampire rights. Watch >>3647649
>>365152999 out of 100 mods require actual brain damage to enjoy
>>3651529>>Play Clan QuestYou were asking for it.
Is Bloodlines your most replayed RPG game (with a built level structure, not just mashing and killing in randomized games like in Diablo-likes)? I think it's still higher than Deus Ex for me, but maybe 2-3 more plays of Deus Ex and it gets higher. Maybe FNV already is higher.
>>3652010I replayed it more times than any other game like it. 3 times. Only did so because of how short and easy the entire game was. By the end of the third I decided I don't think the game is worth playing and will never touch it again.
>>3652010I've played it dozens of times, definitely my most replayed game overall.
>>3652010For me it's Morrowind, no contest.
>>3652010I finished it twice and started it 1000 times. I can't help but metagame the clinic everytime and it really gives me headaches.It doesn't help that the game forces you into the same playstyle everytime. I wanted to do a guns + feed character, but the stat that governs feeding in combat also boosts your unarmed, so might as well...Also, in retrospect, except for the final act, it's not like there's any branching choices
>>3652175>I wanted to do a guns + feed character, but the stat that governs feeding in combat also boosts your unarmed, so might as well...If you play Malk/Ventrue/Tremere you can use your first Dementation/Dominate ability to feed on anyone without a stat check. The other clans are mostly suited to melee anyway.
>>3652175metagame the clinic? the santa monica clinic? what's there to meta?
>>3627356>Vampire the Eternal StruggleNGMI. Get the Jyhad card.
>>3652250bitch, I actually might
>>3651529CQM has such massive swings in writing quality it's crazy.
>>3627342why did you shank your brother? militant veganism?
>>3652200"Metagame" might be a bit of an exageration. I mean I always plan my game around doing all the quests there at the same time so I only visit once.
Hunter mode in the plus patch is fun but I have no idea how the holy light spell is supposed to work
>>3653267That some multiplayer mod?
>>3653362No in the newer versions of the UOP you can play a short combat-focused campaign as one of the vampire hunters. They have their own set of disciplines, don't passively regen health, don't have the innate resistance to bullet damage vampires do and pray outside of combat to recharge meter instead of gulping blood.
>>3653267I just ignored it and maxed out shield and shooting, plus decent melee and stealth. Was kinda fun as a dude who has played bloodlines enough to understand the janky combat, but it shows how much bloodlines relies on story. Did a second run without any faith powers (except the heal, it'd be impossible without the heal) and it was fun in a masochistic way to be playing as a normal dude. Made me think about how fun a Hunter v.s. monster shooter could be if done well.
>>3627342Santa Monica Pier, a return home...
>>3629194Remember, he found hope in the end.
Which girl be like hwak tuah and spit on that thang
>>3651529yup, and I'm in love with her and her womb
>Newest verions of companion mod allow you to make companions out of extremely minor characters like Carson the bounter hunter who gets captured by Gimble, the other stripper from the quest where you have to kill the Vampire Hunter posing as a stripper for VV, or the bum who asks you for a dollar in the very beginning of the game>But not this cute retard from the quest where you have to get her to shut up and stop telling people about vampiresWhy not? It's so obvious.
>>3657172the only content she needs is bonus dialogue when you feed her to Pisha
>>3657172She's one of the characters where making a follower actually makes sense too since you can actually ghoul a ghoul whose original master went missing
>>3657172>>But not this cute retardI would rather cut of my penis than call her cute.
>>3656388yaaas, trans rights
Damsel and Jeanette are the only cute girls
>>3658271For me it's the Tremere PC.
>>3627342To Vesuvius please. I have a date.
>>3638570Doesn't really matter. We play as a special snowflake late gen vampire that destroys everything somehow.
>>3658361I'm an Andrei diablerie truther.
>>3658359non-sexual bump
>>3658359VV hits so many checklists>she's a lying cunt and a poster (or even an actual Poser) who threw one speech check after another at youuse and abuse her, punishment-based sex>she learned what's expected of her and acts appropriately in the Jihad>be useful to each other, get paid, maybe have "business" sex while that still matters to you>had a truly horrible past so now she genuinely likes/wants/needs a nice guy (who happens to be rich, a celebrity and/or able to kill others easilyDreamGirl,jpgWhat I like most is that you easily ruffle her feathers if you're a malk or if you hard pass her flirtingI like to think she took Strauss' refusal in the intro personally and now NEEDS validation almost as much as blood
>>3661321>call her by her real name>she gets madMalk master race wins again.
>>3661337Does her getting mad help you get sex? If not, how is that winning?
>>3661714As a vampire you don't get pleasure from sex, unlike owning dumb whores.
>>3629651He's still updating that patch? Tf, it's done, I remember even years back people were already saying this, that it wasn't really a patch anymore but basically a mod. I too would like more mods for Bloodlines, new stories and whatnot, there's not much of that.
>>3651529I'd supressed this garbage from my mind. Thank you.
>>3661856"Only ever played vanilla Bloodlines" chads, we can't stop winning
>>3661763Source? Peer reviewed article?
>>3661938He doesn't have one. Official VTM erotica novel, never forget boys.
>>3661763>dopamine from sex is gone>dopamine from being a smuggy cunt isn'tthe Jihad is all about coffin NEETS trying to out-smug each other, isn't it?>>3651529Your greentext is funny but it's slightly oversimplified.He became a genuine she which is a big YWNBAW to troonies.He doesn't even tell you, let alone propose sex unless you are trustworthy AND agree to talk about the big secret.He considers the whole thing being a cosmic joke and>never asked for thisThe voice actress was genuinely cute and the replies depending on Clan and purpose were funny>asking if you eat corpses on the first datelmao
>>3661988>The voice actressGonna have to press X to doubt on this one chief.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE IP COUNTS?Mass replying for the weekend>>3627374charger being the template for this coomer meme is one of life's simple pleasures>>3629194Unironically focus on what you like. Even if things were measurably better 20 years ago so it's not nostalgia, a big part of your pleasure is that you were spending time on what you like.>>3629651>he made a part 2huh, thanks>>3630278Amen.>>3630377Haven't played either of those, thanks. I vaguely remember saving some female Nos in the sewers from getting ganged up by two FUBs but she didn't have any lines.
>>3662325>WHAT HAPPENED TO THE IP COUNTS?How long have you been in torpor, brother?
>>3635205>>3635227>>3640621Worst part was the whole "anti-vampire amulet" plot. Someone comes to save you but only if you spare them? Everything else could be *understood* but almost every VA was terrible. That said, it had lots of highlights>that guy in Paris who got kicked out of his house by his grandfather's ghostthe ghost model was legitimately spooky, as was the surprise fight in the basement with the "statues" if you are too cocky>the little secrets here and therelike getting a free Redemption if you swim from sub to shore, perhaps a nod to Gothic 2?>the Enigma questline underneath Pariscringe kino>the entirety of Zurichis build with the highway from the credits, tho it slows the game down after a while. I liked the (optional) Tzimisce encounter>The final fight using Tony Jay voicelineskinoretarded story tho, Paris museum unbeatable without guide, Becket questline busted since it relies on museum
>>36623291 year, plane crashed in a 3rd world country>>3627795Jesus was white as per some Roman accounts of Nazareth which is why "king of the long noses" was a big insult. Middle Easterners, no a whole, were not. Phoenicians did, but rarely.>>3640714How does blush of life help with fangs? Are they retractable or is it just one of those "haha you have long teeth" situations in the setting>>3657172>game has cannibal questgiver>her questline is completely optional, as it the choice to feed her a basic bitch or to kill herfuck this game is so good>>3661321>VV is a poserHere's a theory I haven't seen around here: VV really wants you to join the Anarchs, possibly at Isaac's suggestions.Isaac knows that by the time you reach HW you've been preached to enough, so he is rude and distant at first to seem genuine, then rewards you.VV shows dislike for politics. Instead she talks highly of Isaac and gushes all over you so you like them both and thus indirectly their faction.By the end she may genuinely admire you if it looks like she did a good job selling their cause.Too bad Ash is a little bitch.Autism rant over.
>>3645149>Yukie in F tierShit list
>>3661763You do get pleasure. It's just not the same kick as drinking blood.
>>3662632is this some kind of nulore? Vampires are animated dead ffs
>>3662655>nuloreHave you actually played the game? You can have sex with Jeanette even if both of you are vamps.In WoD vampires can "spend" blood (assuming they have enough) around their genital area to either get an erection if male or wet their pussy if female. Like kickstarting their old human reproductive organs for a while. They obviously cannot become fertile and, as said before, the pleasure gained from this will never amount to the exhilaration of blooddrinking - the real thing. But it can happen.It's not even WoD/VTM lore. Dhampirs exist in other more popular settings like DnD for example. They even exist in VTM, but come solely from thinbloods and are one of the signs of Gehenna.
>>3662632>>3662660They can fake it but the pleasure they get from sex is psychological and considered deviate and degenerate for most vampires. Basically like you fags want to dress like a woman be railed by another men.
>>3662632>>3662660From what I remember of my secondhand tabletop lore (not sure which version), you need an exceptionally high humanity score to truly enjoy sex. At mid levels you can fake it with the Blush of Life, but it doesn't really feel like anything. And at low humanity you can't really remember what you're even supposed to do during sex, so even if you can still pull off the Blush of Life, you'll have a hard time passing yourself off as human.
>>3662672yeah, that's pretty much how I understood it. Jeanette and VV enjoy sex because of severe trauma, Toreadors cling to human things as they struggle with grief. It was the notion that vampires in general feel pleasure when having sex that I was confused by.
>>3662682That's V5 trash, the high humanity requirement for boning is a V5 invention. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this for it to stick but vampires can fuck. The biggest canonical slut in VtM lore is Lucita de Aragon, and she is Humanity 4. Aside from fucking half of the other "signature" characters, she once hired a male prostitute, fucked him on the church grounds of her sire's haven, and then killed him, leaving his naked body there for the sire to find as a "fuck you, dad". The Sabbat, the humanity-rejecting faction is regularly shown to engage in sexual perversion more often than the Camarilla. Look at a Sabbat book and see how many times you spot people in bondage gear. VtM also had an official erotica novel, Eternal Hearts. Vampires of any humanity score or even those not on humanity can engage in sexual acts to varying degrees of gratification. Sex v.s. blood drinking is like comparing a fine meal to a heroin hit, but only the most deep in the hole dysfunctional junkies are going to turn down a nice meal if offered. Many vampires see sex as pointless. Others indulge in increasingly perverse acts to keep getting their rocks off. Others might fall madly in love with someone and do it only with them.
Kind of sad that I accidentally'd my vtm folder a few years ago. Had a shit ton of screens from the game and sample character sheets and other things.I might replay bloodlines but I can't find the one really good retexture mod for my wife, femgrel
>>3645974Personally I think being able to kill the werewolf in +patch in combat's a little silly, but I'll still do it every time for that same reason
>>3662899>Lucita de AragonLove me some Lasombra girls. They manage to outgoth even the other vamps.
>>3664209I have no idea if it was intentional or not, but I find it hilarious that female Lasombra are usually hot and almost always slutty whereas male Lasombra are rarely good looking and often the shlubbiest looking guys you've ever seen.
>>3664416Probably some subconscious projection from Whitewolf.
>>3664416Addams Family effect
>>3664594Didn't think of it like that.>>3664591Now I wanna do a physiognomy check for every clan's stereotypes.>Ventrue are stereotyped as masculine, usually white men with anvil jaws while occupying the role of the Vampiric "Man". Very punk. The man is a chad in a three piece suit. >Tzimisce, the guys who can change their bodies to be anything they want are a bunch of inhuman freaks that like to make furniture out of innocent people.Unintentionally based.>Toreador aren't always beautiful, but embrace so many good looking people that they're noted for it. Also I have never seen a male toreador who was hot in a manly way, they're all pretty boys.Not sure what to make of this one. Manly men can't do art?
>>3664416Lasombra lore can be both cool and unintentionally funny.
Played this game for the first time in my life this November. It's insane how good this hits for me. The writing, the atmosphere, the characters, the humour, the dialogue, the voice acting, the setting. Everything. I love exploring this world. Just finished my second run. This game is unique to the point that I can ignore the flaws. And it gives me hope for a great future for RPGs. Problem: It's 20 years old. I'll never find something like this again.>>3644371I'm fucked.Also, I am not on /vrpg/ that much for some reason. Is there always a VTMB thread going?
>>3664209I'm fairly sure Lucita would not look like a modern botox bimbo. She was embraced in the 12th century after all.
yjk Lasombra girls fuck themselves with their shadow tentacles.
>>3665349>This game is unique to the point that I can ignore the flaws.This is the case with most such "cult classics" or whatever they are called now.
>GROUT! LAY LOW AND BE CLEANSED BY THE FLAMES!
>>3665349Bloodlines has a pretty solid following. I would not be surprised if someone eventually took up the mantle of porting the game to unity or something and expanding on it... maybe after Bloodlines 2 totally disappoints everyone who was excited for it.
>>3667738Unity is still a pretty bad choice. Making a total conversion for some other game will most likely produce a better result.
>>3635973Mexicans as vampires, frankly any nonwhites are just absurd and i cant take them seriously. Imagine a vampire having a siesta or sitting aloof in the dark of his favela listening to a mariachi band recording
>>3645101>>3645661Game design general on v? Dev thread on g maybe something on vg
>>3645103Flamethrower ming, use a fuckton of bloodpacks if you chose a bitch class you should have made up for it in heals in theory. You can obfuscate her if you are a progamer and corner hug skillfully maybe stealth too i cant remember been so long.
>>3645713Play malk and nos
>>3646485Hows the lbd going. Post tits btw
>>3668093>Mexicans as vampires, frankly any nonwhites are just absurdEven and already if you only consider it aesthetically. A gay friend of mine told me years ago how ridiculous he thinks black vampires in movies are. He said that watching blood running down dark skin just isn't as striking a sight as the spectacle of blood running down pale white skin. He's right. Blood smeared lips framed by a pale white face are mesmerizing.
>>3661878Reminder wesp is not vanilla
>>3668093I think vampires can work pretty well with most cultures and ethnic groups, you just can't try to copy and paste the same tropes wholesale.Mexico you got multiple angles you could go for, an old blood Spaniard who won this land through conquest against the savages, forever looking down on the mortal cattle while living in a once beautiful now decrepit villa. One of the half-bandit half revolutionary types who was turned, still living out in the wilderness, bushwhacking people for blood, fighting a war that has been over for a century, growing all the more bitter by how the world has left him behind. Hell, the Aztecs and all their love of blood, sacrifice, and war are rife for vampire material. Inhuman blood gods from a bygone age, who practice their monstrous blood rituals in secret. If anything, Mexico's history of blood, war, weird religion, and political strife makes it a great place to set a vampire story.
>>3667738I'm not surprised. I'm one of them now. It's not like I can't see that the second half of the game is a lot weaker than the first half. But it's still the kind of game that makes it a lot harder for me to enjoy other more derivative and unimaginative games.
>>3662358>Jesus was white as per some Roman accounts of Nazareth which is why "king of the long noses" was a big insult.Nlt even the letters of the Apostles who met Jesus in person are reliable. There was just too much storytelling going on.
>>3668093>Mexicans as vampires, frankly any nonwhites are just absurd
>>3668113>Reminder wesp is not vanillaI've never played wesp. I only ever played the original retail release back in the day.
>>3668093>frankly any nonwhites are just absurd and i cant take them seriously.C'mon - jews as vampires makes perfect sense.
>>3668146>C'mon - jews as vampires makes perfect sense.
>>3668146wait a second, did you just do a heckin' antisemitism? MODS, BAN HIM AT ONCE! VtM is for everyone, you biggot.
>>3668118Yeah if they just weren't Mexicans. You can do all this in Europe retard.
>>3643791Guns get better in midgame. That is also when your character comes online and your choices begin to reallymatter.The Oceanview hotel hit differentlyback then. When you played it the first time you had no idea that you would not have to for real fight the ghost. Before Oceanview you only fought a couple human gangsters.
>>3668182I started a game not to long ago and only used guns, it's not as bad as people say. the only problem is that some clans have some really good buffs to unarmed and a combo generally comes out faster than a shotgun could damage. and a lot of other gripes came from the boss fights being unintentionally weird for melee characters, so i think there's a lot of negativity about the game that all blends together.
>>3668160This is why I said vampires can work for most cultures and ethnic groups. They rely on some pretty useful themes. How exactly does being Mexican stop you from using these themes, as well as all the historical events that took place in Mexico? Even current year Mexicans have angles you can work with beyond the random cholos that litter the CQM's Sabbat. Cartels and their love of disappearing people, human trafficking, weird religious cults, and controlling/intimidating politicians has everything you could want in a standard VtM affair.
>>3668093>>3668146https://files.catbox.moe/dj0s6a.mp4
>>3668118Nope my view is the correct one
>>3668141My man
>>3668146Ah yes jews famous for traits such as brooding, gothic styling, aristocratic dignity, seduction and high cunning. You dont even realize when youre denigrating yourself
>>3669259Anon, I… where do you think the legends of vampires came from? Whom do you think they were warning us about?
>>3669290why dont you spend 5 minutes looking it up instead of pretending you know something you clearly dont
>>3627342To Vesuvius, i need to talk with Susan
>>3669296>>3668149Picture related.
CHAZ, USA, Washington
>>3672356You would get destroyed, whiteboi
>>3672907>You would get destroyed, whiteboiIt was virtually entirely white and their “security” shot and killed two or three future engineers and doctors while streaming it and nothing happened
>>3672355Vampires come from European folklore and they're based on European aristocrats.
>>3662325>WHAT HAPPENED TO THE IP COUNTS?likely removed due to admins feeling it:1 lead to unproductive posts of people calling each other over ip this ip that2 made investors/potential advatisersno way of proving this but im pretty sure most of the people who buy adspace are frequent users quesy since they could check how much this or that average post on [x] board gets and decide to put an add on a higher traffic site instead3 idk they wanted more server space and didnt need the code anymorethis isnt me defending the removal but i think these are why it was done
>>3672921BS, it's frickin obvious that the original Dracula from "Bram penis Stroker" was based on an anti-Semitic canard. Watch Vaush, he said that years ago.
>>3652010 I don't think I'll ever play a game more times than Fable. When it came out I was obsessed with it for some reason and finished it more than a dozen times over a year.
>>3672921>shut it down
>>3672921The earliest recorded people accused of being vampires (as we would understand them) weren't aristocrats you fucking retard.
>>3672911>It was virtually entirely white and their security shot and killed two or three future engineers and doctors while streaming it and nothing happened
>10/02/2024How the fuck has this board not been deleted.
"Chinatown unfortunately"
>>3673225Then they threatened the mayor of seattles house in a gated community and she sent the cops to bust their shit and kick them out literally the next day.
Does anyone know what the FUCK is going on here?I can talk to Lily like normal but after I do, the door is closed, she can't leave the room and the cutscene never completesI do have the UP installed. What do I do?
>>3673828>Does anyone know what the FUCK is going on here?it's a mystery
>>3673828Bloodlines has a memory leak issue where if you play for too long the objects start getting replaced with random shit. Just quit the game and reopen it though I think if you save the game after the objects got replaced they stay like that? Idk
>>3673861That's kind of funny. Before the fan patches the game would just crash after a while. The fan patches stopped the crashes but you still get problems and have to restart anyway.
>>3661321>she took Strauss' refusal in the intro personally and now NEEDS validation almost as much as bloodkino headcannon, i did make note of that scene but i never dwelt on it. vivi having an unrequited crush on strauss that she's overcompensating for is some truly good shit and you've tied it all up in a neat bow of a theory.now that i mention it, it does seem weird that nothing comes out of that scene in the intro. is what you wrote based on anything that gets mentioned in the game or did you make this up yourself?
>>3673585good for herit's giving slayage
>>3674412Nah, that’s unprincipled and hypocritical behavior. She was all for it and supported it until it affected her personally. Seattle is a complete shithole now.
>>3672995Interesting answer, thanks>>3668182>back thenshit was spooky even in the 2020s because it's set up in a way that you feel nice and cocky after the recent victories + Therese's (admittedly unintentional) shit advise and then it teaches you humility>>3674397>anything that gets mentioned in-gameReally only stuff that's inferred and interpreted, which is another reason I like this game. It doesn't neon-shine everything with arrows.>used to be "everything for 300$" girlimpying awful money situation in life, low-self-esteem or any other now-undesireable qualities>current identity building takes priority; doesn't want outside involvement, doesn't want to get involved in the outsidewhich is why she doesn't do anything about Hatter or the hunters, only the one found in her club which she "only" fired>doesn't help with Ash's plight, Stoneface and geodude situationeither doesn't know or actively avoids confrontations>after finishing her questline, she can be found simply dancing, which is something some people do to "not have to think", another hallmark of people who want to disconnect and stay in their own headbubbleSo you could say she's just a very Tory Toreador but she also screams "damaged goods" which is why she breaks quickly under scrutiny but (fortunately for the player) is appreciative of supportlast but not least, I saw that the CQM devs have a similar opinion. One of their quests state that VV was sired in the Sabbath and her Sire was mighty pissed she escaped.
Are the prequel mods any good?
>>3645161This is proof that Bloodlines is for mature adult men
I always murder the dude who tells me to introduce myself to Isaac. I don't like his attitude.
>>3676560I killed him a few times and I was surprised that Isaac actually has an unique line about it. He basically doesn't care though so even though I had assumed he was high humanity, he isn't
>>3676560>I always murder the dude who tells me to introduce myself to Isaac.I don't even remember him, it took me a while to realize you meant the nobody with sunglasses
>>3676568>I had assumed the jewish hollywood producer was high humanityAnon I...
>>3676612I also thought LaCroix was being honest the first time playing and VV was actually attracted to my character so I wasn't really smart while playing this game
>>3676619Doesn't VV end up liking you a little? She sends her shit poems to you if you are nice to her.
>>3676619Both of those things could be true, there's no conclusive evidence to the contrary of either
>>3676619He is being honest. He doesn't like you and wants you dead in such a way that it doesn't make him look bad. if you try to refuse he just drops the politeness and Dominates you.
>>3677034Yes and on the other hand, if you're nice to him, he'll give you rewards even if you don't ask for any and praise you as the only competent and trustworthy man he hasLaCroix's one of those characters that is what you make of him
Man I'd have liked to find these threads when they didn't have just 5 posters per month>>3673828unironically you've been playing for too long and the game misloads assets. Restart game and/or computer and you're fine
>>3678782>Man I'd have liked to find these threads when they didn't have just 5 posters per monthWhen this game was popular it was several years before Moot left SA, anon.
>>3673223>EarlyWe're talking about modern vampires retard.
>>3678782Restarting didn't solve shitI learned the problem was that I had somehow loaded the same save with the unpatched version of the game, which caused problems no matter whether I was running the patched version or not
>>3668146Wait is there a masquerade violation meme edit for the nyc jew tunnel thing
>>3681074I'll never get over the fact that journalists found bloody mattresses and tunnels linked beneath the children's hospital and the media just swept it all under the rug.
>>3676560>>3676568>Prince's errand boy ices one of the only truly landed Anarch's thugs>Said Anarch Baron doesn't respond in kindActually a good detail that despite talking all that good shit, Isaac was just as weak as the rest of the Anarchs and was hoping for something to weaken LaCroix before making any moves.
>>3676560Hah me too.
>>3673031Based & Vaushpilled
Reminder Toreadors are the only clan that was not cursed by Caine but rather were blessed by him.
My latest playthrough I did a Ventrue anarch and as a self imposed challenge only fed on women I stopped doing by the Kuei Jin stronghold though, fuck that shitThe plus patch lets you play postgame, I tried visiting Straus and Isaac and they both told me to fuck off. Straus sure since I basically told the cammies to sit and spin but I thought Isaac would have been happy to see me... though I guess he is pretty territorial
>>3682922How does that work, no voiced lines or AI voices? Or did they use the similar sounding people again, Straus' Clan mod voice actor was pretty good
>>3683023It sounds like the original VA but not AI, so either lines I just didn't notice before or unused lines that were restored
>>3683027They found some very close sounding voice actors before, idk if they are fans or just paid people. IIRC Nines' dialogue when you meet him in hotel in plus patch for example is by a fan, not the actual voice actor
>>3683030>Nines' dialogue when you meet him in hotelAt the end of the game when siding with the Anarchs? That's in the vanilla game. Haven't played in a while with plus though so there might be more I haven't seen.I know the Clan Quest Mod got a decent soundalike for Andrei.
I was playing this game late one night and I rested my elbow on my desk (it's a corner L shaped desk) and smashed the remote control, which turned on the TV playing "Smokey and the Bandit" at near maximum volume so now I immediately blare in my mind at near maximum volume "THE BOYS ARE THIRSTY IT ATLANTA AND THERE'S BEER IN TEXARKANA AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK NO MATTER WHAT IT TAAAAAAAAAKES bow bow bow EASTBOUND AND DOWWWWWWWWN LOAD IT UP AND TRUCKIN OH WE'RE GONNA DO WHAT THEY SAY CAINT BE DONE" whenever I get in the cab ever since. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOgUaFkpS3YThanks for reading my blog.
>>3676560>oh yeah I'm a big tough goon you'd better do what I say before things get ugl-AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBitch ass lick.
>Check out that Prelude Mod years ago>Rough around the edges but a neat idea.>Playing as a hunter was fun, the custom maps were pretty cool too, the oil rig level was remarkably well done.>The writing is painfully ESL and pretty simple, but the idea is novel enough that I enjoyed it despite the flaws.>Ends with you getting forcibly embraced by the SabbatOkay. Could have spent a bit more time as a Hunter but being shovelheaded as a Hunter could be fun.>Prelude II finally comes out>You have to flee from the cops after your fledgling frenzy, confused and alone>Remarkably solid>Then suddenly Jack shows up>Oh please no,>He starts giving you the exact same "hey I'm your helpful vampire uncle!" routine>Fucking why>"Okay so now we gotta cover up the Masquerade, then you can help me set up the Ankaran Sarcophagus ruse :)"God damn it I was looking forward to a different experience. At least give me some time being forced to do Sabbat shit before I have a chance to defect to the other factions.
>>3684710That's too bad. I liked Prelude. I wanted them to stick with the Hunter stuff a bit more though. That seemed interesting and it felt like a tech demo of more to come but I didn't really get why it felt like they were dropping the Hunter stuff already by the end of it. Think it's a wasted opportunity.
>>3684761Agreed on the Hunter stuff, I wouldn't have minded a full Hunter mod desu. For as popular as they are in books and t.v./movies, there's very little in the way of urban fantasy hunter vidya. What there is juices you up to the point you're killing goober monsters in droves. Playing as just a dude or maybe a dude with some low level faith powers has a lot of appeal. If I had to guess maybe they were concerned about the hunter powers not having enough depth to last a longer game. But I think the truth is they wanted to go back to something safe, hence sorta falling back into the same narrative devices like crazy uncle Jack rather than take the gamble of shoving you into the Sabbat.
FUCK YOU MING
>>3645149>Taxi guy in who? tierlol
>>3685066DON'T MIND IF I DO
>>3685066 I was expecting her to get absorbed by the can like a pokemon
>bush hook does more damage than the talmahera blade at higher skill levelsseems a bit odd for a gardening tool to do more damage than a supernatural sword
>>3685161superior chinese pig iron folded over three billion times.
>>3685066I throw that vase to that guy's daughter every time I play this game
>>3685173That explains it.
Replayed the game over the last week, crazy that the UP+ is still getting updates.I really want to rewrite and dub over the library quest lasombra, that VA is so bad>>3685182I always do the bad luck farmer quest at the same time so the fat guy beats the shit out of her
>>3685161those things are pretty gnarly, i'd rather be hit by a katana than a bill hook desu
>>3685066based
>>3635496Try underrail.Factions to join, multiple approaches, cool builds, memorable characters, meaningful choices.
>>3686071Did WESP make any new unnessecary changes or what?
>>3686598I didn't notice any unnecessary, but I hadn't played since winter 2020, so it's been a while
>>3686598Yes lol>Unlocked doors in the SM clinic and on the Dane for easier routes.This is a change in a recent version though it's for basic. I never thought those routes were "hard". My guess is it's meant for the plus version because he nerfed Blood Buff in it for some reason which makes it less useful for lockpicking.
>>3686631>modder makes two versions of an unofficial patch>one is supposed to be solely bug fixes and QoL improvements, for people who want the vanilla game without content changes or additions>one is supposed to have all the content changes and additions>modders ego and desire for control increases, he knows what’s best for you, loses restraint>adds content changes to the basic vanilla mod that’s not supposed to have anyWhy are they like this
>>3686917>Why are they like thisI saw it happen with another game. When criticized, they basically said they consider it their game now and want to essentially remake it and claim it as their own, and there's nothing you can do to stop them.Wesp was never that hostile about it with the Unofficial Patch, but he has said he considers himself taking over where the devs left off and that people are going to keep using his patch no matter what anyway.
>>3686924Two other examples that immediately come to mind are ToEE and VtM:RI haven’t played VtM:B since retail 1.0 when it came out and I kinda wanna replay it but I also kinda don’t want to deal with sorting through six gorillion different patch versions to find a simple vanilla+ one with no changes or additions. I think I re-bought the game on GoG and it comes with some old fan patch pre installed
>>3686926It happened with Morrowind too. But I really like how the Morrowind Code Patch lets you choose every single thing if you want it or not. If the Unofficial Patch did this I'd be happy with it. I think people say the old 9.x and earlier versions are still alright without too many of the extra changes. GoG comes with the Unofficial Patch but newer versions. I basically combined the True Patch for pure vanilla fixes and the Unofficial Patch for better technical fixes, it's personally my preferred way of playing the game. I bet both of the creators would be mad at me for doing that lol. But I can share it if you want that.
>>3686937If they make it 100% modular and configurable I think it’s fine, like that example. It’s only an issue imo when they bake it unwanted changes you can’t avoid. Or even better, they’ll make it 95% modular and toggleable but then bake in just a little bit of dumb shit, just enough to ruin it.
>>3686945Yeah, separating the patch into basic and plus was a good start but people have been asking for more lately. Since it was originally a restoration patch, all the extra custom stuff probably should've been a third option at the very least.
>>3627342The sequel? Straight to Gamepass or Epic Free Giveaways.
>>3686937Wesp adding some nonsense stuff isn't a new thing, at some point he added crying Jeanette to the Mercurio pulling himself to his apartment cutscene because he found something very loosely hinting to it in the code or something similar and that was in 7.something I think, I remember some people complaining about it. The guy just looks at code and tries to make sense of everything even if what was left isn't meaningful, still a great mod though people here are just being faggots
>>3687060He adds in a lot of completely custom content that has nothing to do with restorations and pushes the line on what fixing a bug means so he can keep introducing his own changes. But that's not really the issue, the issue is just people feeling like they aren't able to pick and choose what they want with the patch if there are things they don't like about it. People have been asking for more options like that for a while but he said it would be too much work to do.I don't completely hate the Unofficial Patch, but if I just want bug fixes, then I just want bug fixes, but there's no option for that. If I just want restored cut content there's no option for that either. And the patch started out claiming to do those things, that basic would just fix bugs and that plus would just fix bugs and restore cut content.There's a reason the Unofficial Patch spawned two variations where people took it and modified it to suit their needs. If Wesp just added more options of what to use or not, this wouldn't have happened.
I like the new stuff he adds, even if the quality's lacking. I'm pretty sure the whole museum exterior is there just so he can throw another one of the unused tracks, and I love all of them, so it's fine by me
>>36273422025! I do think it will be a great year!
>>3687414I wouldn't mind incorporating the unused tracks at all, since they're quite good, if not for the fact he MOVED SMALLER GOD OFF OF THE GOD DAMN BEACH AND HID IT AWAY IN THE EMPIRE ARMS HOTEL LOUNGE THE MOTHERFUCKER!
>>3687849On the version I got the other week, it was back on the beach. There was a note about in the patch notes. Some other song in the Empire Arms now. I don't think I had played it when they were swapped though, so I don't know if it's the same.
>>3687855Were you playing basic? I think after the initial change and backlash the change was made plus only.The change was silly anyway. If he thought the same song playing in two places really was a bug that needed fixing, why did he use a song that played somewhere else to replace it?
>>3688104No, I was on plus each time. I just dunno if it was swapped back when I played before.Or maybe I'm misremembering and he did have it switched back then. I do remember Smaller God playing in both locations in the past though.
>>3686598I saw that he removed whispers from Ocean House in another thread
>>3689860What type of autism compels someone to arbitrarily fuck with the game like that
>>3689880Were the whispers in the original game? Which whispers as well?I could be misremembering but I believe I heard the 'help me...' and 'he's coming...' whispers
>>3689888I don’t remember, the last time I played vtmb it was the retail 1.0 twenty years ago. I just don’t get the point of such changes, seems very arbitrary and “because I can”. Maybe that’s his fetish
>>3689889A lot of plus patch is stuff like that, yeah. Functionally it's a mod with bug fixes added. I'm not sure how much of the Library quest (as far as I know the biggest thing added with UP+) is in game files/scripted with the game at the start but disabled vs made from scratch
>>3689888There was definitely whispering.
I can't turn back time or undo what has happened but I am here to listen
>>3689911Yeah, if he got rid of that then idk. Again I'd have to double check, could have sworn it was there, but I was in a voice call at the time
>>3689860What makes this more retarded is that these are in the basic patch>>3689888Yeah, they were in the original game. Wesp's conclusion was "only Malkavians should hear whispers so these shouldn't be here". Basically his autism or something makes him not understand the whispers are there for the haunted house atmosphere
>>3689961???That makes no sense. Can ghosts not communicate? They can already manipulate things and throw them around clearly.
Speaking of patches, how many are there now?>Lurkchan's Absolutely Unofficial True Patch Platinum>Mike Roberts's Standard Mod Patch>Tessera's True Patch Gold>WESP's Unofficial Basic/Plus PatchThese all of them?
>>3689990What’s the most basic one without added or questionable shit?
>>3689992Lurkchan's is the most basic. He made it to play the game on pure vanilla 1.2 with modern hardware, he didn't change anything else. The Standard Mod Patch 0.7 is the next best if you want bug fixes. He made some other content changes in 0.8, so not as vanilla but still more vanilla than WESP's Basic Patch.
>>3690004Lurk's is just to speedrun it, yeah?
>>3690006Yeah, he made it for speedrunners, but it works for anyone who wants the purest 2004 content. I'd definitely recommend SMP if you don't care about that though
>>3635551Lol the original Deus Ex is infinitely superior to the slop made by Eidos Montreal, you have 0 taste
For she.
>>3669259maybe to midwits, these are the defining traits of a vampire.to me, it's the extremely psychotic aversion to death and saying "fuck you" to the rest of the world to assure your own immortality stays intact. in essence, a parasite that creates absolutely nothing, only existing as useless entropy.
>>3690004I played the Standard Mod Patch for a bit and noticed some random changes I didn't care for much. But it seems like a better choice than the Basic Patch.I still prefer the True Patch with some files from the Unofficial Patch for extra technical fixes. It's actually vanilla with less problems. There's no other option for that. Changes made by the UP/SMP kind of miss the point as to why things were done a certain way sometimes.
>>3689990Tesseras
>>3690073We were spoiled of big tiddy mature Toreador kino and I will NEVER forgive them for it.
Did anyone ever fix Tess's True Patch to work on Windows 10?
>>3690398Yeah I did. Combined it with files from the Unofficial Patch for W10 support, plus better widescreen support and faster saving. Works pretty well.
>>3687060Remember when Wesp found a reference to "All your base are belong to us" in the code, so he "restored" it in 9.x to play the fucking meme song during the game's last mission. I think it's still in the patch too, he just locked it behind Malk players only after enough people called him a retard
>>3690796lmaowhat?
>>3690818He knew what he doing.
>>3690818>https://steamcommunity.com/app/2600/discussions/0/3182216552775856367/>I think the music and the text fit nicely to the impending bomb explosion :)!
>>3690796I remember. I would imagine the devs were just having a bit of fun when developing that part of the game rather than really intending for it to be played.
>>3690264She's still in the game.
>>3690073>>3690264I actually read up on the woman they based her on and she seemed more like a Ventrue than a Toreador in my opinion. Shrewd businesswoman who ran a very tight ship and had a hand in more than you might think politically. But Toreador is always going to be the go-to for sexy vampire, even though any clan not named Nosferatu can have high appearance.
I really wish protean claws didn't have that weird lock on and small hitbox man
>>3695068Same. I tried recently to see if I could make them work like regular fists but it doesn't seem possible. Someone tried a while ago to adjust them to make them attack faster too but it didn't seem to work either. They do a lot of damage so even just one hit has an impact but I feel like they should be equal or faster to fists rather than slower.I really wish VtMB would get a port to modern Source so things like this could be easily modded. I really wanted to play Gangrel but Protean just isn't that great. Fortitude and Animalism is still kind of fun though.
>>3695154In the plus patch they get that attack speed boost with protean 5, but it often doesn't help since the hitbox is so small.Also, knocking the enemy back makes followup hits tough to hit unless you get someone against a wall.
>>3695156I tried it in the plus patch and the speed is about the same. I think Wesp even said it's impossible to adjust things like that with current mod tools.But yeah you can sometimes use the leap attack to land a hit as they get back up but most will miss. Missing wouldn't feel so bad if the attack animation was faster though I think. People have complained about how slow it is for a long time but nobody can do anything.
>>3695154If Bloodlines was in a more flexible engine you probably could have tabletop Protean and Animalism which are way more flexible. They can't really be modded in, the whole game has to be designed with those in mind but with modern tech I think it'd be possible and it'd be great
To the big titty goth boss>>3645149>strauss in B
>>3695418
>newest VtB game introduces the main character to a methuselahwhich one would you want to meet?
>>3627462SUCK YOU BLOODY!
>the gargoyle mission>the zombie missionThank God I had maxed out the Blood Palets as a Tremere, else I would've been filtered so hard
>>3697524the zombie mission is easy as fuck in the later unofficial patches, wesp nerfed it to ground
>>3690073does not look good. never did
>>3697545I somehow fucking failed it 2x in a row and a third due to a bug. Played gangrel with maxed protean, only hit the zombies near/hitting the gates. Each time failed at like <10 secondsSo annoying lol
>>3695068>>3695154It's really not too bad so long as you compel your autism with the combo's. If you only quick twice and then briefly pause to readjust your positioning you keep the fast, strong swings without the awkwardly slow third one.
>>3698198Well it doesn't help when the second attack doesn't hit when the opponent is knocked back out of range from the first one.
