Prague, Anno Domini 1205.
>>3627344As you wish.
>>3627342Just take me back
>>3627342To Sin Bin, I have some unfinished business
To the sequel, sir.
>its not a paki driverimagine paki dracula
>>3627462Cain is from Middle Eastern mythology so technically he's Middle Eastern so not that different
>>3627342I am no longer here.
>>3627462DO NOT DIABLERIZE; SIR
>>3627342Anywhere but here.
>>3627534The original middle-easterners were white. They had blonde hair and blue eyes.
>>3627795evem Pheniciant never had blonde hair. i dont think you know much about genetics. in fact i dont think you know mycha bout anything at all
>>3627872>even the (((Phoenicians/Canaanites)))
>>3627795>WE WUZ THE ORIGINAL HEBREWS N SHITStupid nordicist garbage.
>>3628604I used to entertain the validity of “Christian Identity”, and what convinced me it’s false was sitting down and reading the entire Old Testament cover to cover.
>>3627342Just drive...
>>3627342Chinatown, gotta kill me a fishman and fuck a samurai girl
>>3627342Page 10, keep the (You)'s
>>3628604wtf lol why was my post deletedis the janny a christian identarian
>>3628986Based newfag.
>>3628986The janitor makes these awful threads because he hates rpgs and doesn't play them.
>>3629183Based newfag.
>>36273422004. Back to the memories and kino. Back to when I met my buddy playing counter-strike source, and all the adventures we went on for years. Back to when I had passion to work on my projects, and had hope I'd find the perfect woman. When the future still looked bright, and I hadn't yet become the cynical middle-aged man I've become.Can you take me there, Cain?
>>3629194You can’t go home again, anon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XheYpT7-7sEalso source engine sucked hl1 was better, tighter movement and guns, less floaty
>>3627795Go home Totentanz, you drunk
>>3629194Shame Wesp spends all his time making nothing arbitrary changes to his unofficial patch rather than make some actual mods for the game. I thought Prequel had promise even if it was jank as hell, mostly in the writing. But playing as a Hunter was fun and the oil rig section was a legitimately interesting idea, if a little unpolished. Would've preferred him going down the mod route rather than tarnishing his legacy with these arbitrary changes.
To that general feeling of hopefulness and wanderlust.
>>3627342Deb of Night's house my good sir!
I just finished the sewers and honestly it wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. I took the wrong turn every time and killed everything lmao. Great atmosphere. >>3627342https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvknOXGPzCQ
>>3629194https://youtu.be/7hwaLaBkjtQanon...
>>3630377it's only bad if you have literally 0 dots in any form of combat
>>3630377There are some mods that change clans of Bloodlines like Final Nights and Antitribu. Those clans aren't integrated well narratively as you probably guessed, I mean they're just mods after all, but some of the clans actually have very fun combat disciplines and combat heavy areas become very fun with them
>>3630377It's just very tedious to go through and unnecessarily long.
>>3627342>tfw same voice actorM'aiq wishes you well
>>3627342Away from Paradox, thankfully.
>>3630377man, i wish some modder would just take the concept and storytelling, add some notes, some more locked ammo boxes, make it less linear and more vertical and the level would actually be good, i wonder if i could open up vtmb and remake this level to not suck :P
Has anyone used the wargames mod?https://www.moddb.com/mods/masquerade-war-games
>>3635197Plot makes no sense and voice acting is some of the worst you will ever hear with russian nazis with cheapest microphones under the sun.
>>3635197It's an excellent case study in a designer's grasp exceeding their reach. The plot is absolutely batshit insane (those parts I could decipher from the aggressively ESL writing and voice acting), and the side-quests are a mixed bag of ideas. It's impressive what they managed to do in an engine that fights you as hard as Bloodline's unfinished version of Source, but it has serious execution issues in writing and presentation. I wonder if they had just committed to text and gotten a better translator if it would come off as unpolished.
>>3627394>sequelNo, nope. It will be slop made for the "modern audience".
>>3627342Just played this for the first time recently and I really enjoyed it, but now I'm really struggling to find an RPG that scratches the same itch. I tried Mass Effect for the first time but I don't like the setting at all.Might replay KOTOR II or something, somehow I think it's the most similar game I'm aware of in terms of roleplaying mechanics and story progression.
>>3635496If you haven't played them, try Deus Ex Jensen duology, those are somewhat similar games. Hub worlds are reasonably detailed, full of hidden stuff to discover and side quest to find.
>>3635497Why recommend Jensen games instead of the original DX? Bloodlines is obviously influenced by it
>>3635497Thanks, that does look like what I'm looking for
>>3635499>Why recommend Jensen games instead of the originalDespite being revolutionary at the time of release i don't believe that original deus ex aged well. Gameplay is stiff and boring, voice acting is camp as hell and low fidelity 3d is just ugly.
>>3635551this anon has awful taste. first one still holds up really well. if you really cant handle the style, GMDX does a good job of gussying it up without going too far
>>3627342>Where to?Your mom's house.
The clan quest mod fucking sucks and the fanbase was memed into thinking it's the gold standard. It's not, the writing is terrible, the voice acting is worse (but it's forgivable for a bunch of amateurs), and the quests not only break established setting lore but also the game-established canon.The Sabbath area is fun for one playthrough, but hearing "EY I'M A VAMPIRE, GOT SUPERPOWERS N SHIT, CHICKA." from a mexipire is fucking hilarious every time. That's all the good parts summed up.The Tremere quest, touted as the shining example, is 14 year old's idea of what deep philosophical thoughts are.>Are you eviiil?>Why you gotta huuuurt?>Who are yooooou?The other ones are edgelord cringe (the one with VV being the worst one).
>>3635973Yeah I never tried the Tremere clan quest, I was very annoyed that the Ventrue Clan Quest had very little to do with my being a Ventrue and was more of an exploration of Assamite and Sabbat lore than anything to do with the Ventrue. Sabbat area is way more fun playing as a Camarilla Infiltrator than as a Sabbat member, and while it was kinda fun in a dumb fanfic way, the endgame of the Sabbat route is pretty stupid. They write themselves into a corner and the only reason LaCroix doesn't just win is the Sheriff botches your execution for some unknown reason.
>>3635496>but now I'm really struggling to find an RPG that scratches the same itchWelcome to the club. Enjoy your impending decades of suffering.
>>3635973The writing has some major issues, like Andrei wanting to open the sarcophagus but I still think for most part it's great and I'm just going to call you a faggot
>>3637307what's moot up to these days?
>>3635496Play VtM:R.
>>3637329not similar to bloodlines at all
>>3637332Yes and no. Depends why he liked Bloodlines. I played it long after playing bloodlines and I ended up really liking it. Obviously the perspective and combat is different, but it’s the same source material and world, and the atmosphere is great, as are the characters and story (one of the greatest love stories in video game history imo)
>>3637309he works for google and raises a crotchspawn (presumably of his own making)
>>3637307The writing has major issues like almost every clan quest being a complete divergence from either>the tone of the game>the established lore (in-game and book)>suffering from major ow-the-edge"VV was actually a Sabbat rape victim who made snuff films with Death Mask!! Do the quest and you'll break her mind and her club will close forever!"Or the fucking tranny-jin quest, where if you don't follow the quest to the letter you'll get damaged by pink mists coming out of sewer drains for the rest of the game.>>3637818Hasn't worked for Google for a few years now.I wonder if he was happy as a product manager and "social media expert" there. I wonder if he misses the toxicity and vileness; if there's an emptiness and has to, just occasionally, post on /v/ to gall about whatever he hates today.
>>3627342>we will NEVER have a hunter immersive sim
>>3638199Imsim for hunters would be pretty tough, since you'd need to account for how squishy and weak realistic humans are without making the gameplay anti-fun.
>>3635497>>3635496seconding the new dude sex games and adding alpha protocol
>>3627342home
>>3639973those cars are moving extremely fast
>>36273422000, where most of the fags in vrpg aren't alive yet.
>>3627795Incredibly BASED and CORRECT.
>>3635197I have played through the entirety of this mod solely because I appreciated the effort. I will call it a solid 5/10 out of respect, not pity, but the ending alone drags it down.>nazi russiansthe entire story is about fighting the nazis which is hyper retarded as their big story surprise was that you were sired by the Sabbat and your boomer Sire feared technology
It's kinda crazy that back in 2004 being a neo nazi vampire was a given example of a character backstory for the World of Darkness pen and paper RPG, and then for the later editions they had to say that having nazi vampires is advised against as it might upset other players
>>3627342Why is he white?
>>3627374>The name's Flynn. Flynn Boyle. And I'm the proprietor of this here establishment. Anything you want, you can get at the Sin Bin. 'Depraved' ain't a four-letter word here, you know what I'm talking about?Permavirgin here, what does he mean by the 4 letter word??
>>3640665The game is set in the last century, back then cab driving wasn't all pakis.
>>3640669Sar, I was asking because Cain is a Semitic person, he should be at least very tanned skin.
>>3640665He isn't, my blind friend.
>>3640668Sex(s)
>>3640670he does have a tanned skin though and that's despite being a vampire so he looks like how a semitic vampire would lookyou can see how pale European vampires are in game with Lacroix, Ventrues and otherstechnically none of them should be this pale while interacting with humans but this game forget about blush of life completely, they even show their fangs to everyone
>>3640668Anon.
>>3640668Its a figure of speech, google "four-letter word" my virgin ESL friend.
>>3640714it's quite amazing how often your financial situation growinng up determines how you will look
>>3640714I think not showing the blush of life was intentional so players could tell at a glance who the other vampires were.
>>3640967Is there anything in the lore that says if vampires can see straight through it? Maybe they do look tanned and lively to normies.
>>3641201Maybe? I've been playing a homebrewed VtM to VtR rules conversion for so long I don't remember which things are inherent to the vampire template by default in Masquerade. Did you know that in Masquerade, you need Protean 1 to have better night vision than a normal human? Weird.
My favorite race? Ventrue (whites). My favorite ending? Independent, because you're not allowed to take over the Cumrilla.
>>3641201no, you need auspex to see if someone is a vampire or other kind of natural
>>3640967Probably.Otherwise it would have been Vampire the Masquerade without vampires because monkee see monkee feel and everyone would have complained that it feels like GTA without vehicles. Its pretty business as usual to cast aside some parts of the pnp to make a video game more presentable or work in its limitations. You shouldnt be unable to just randomly walz trough the nightlife of downtown as seriously disfigured Nos but you can etc.That said I would have loved it as it would have added so much mechanically to the game to use auspex not just for stats, maybe even in dialogue, etc.
I never understood why the vampires were like "yeah Jeannette can use magic to fuck". I mean I get that the male vampires might not get it up because dead dick (but even that don't make no sense, cuz intro). But why was Mercurio like "you can't or don't do that sort of thing!".
>>3642467Having sex as a vampire is mainly a high humanity thing, Mercurio learned that vampires don't have sex from LaCroix, who is a Ventrue, not exactly a humane clan like Toreador and Brujah, plus LaCroix is low humanity. IIRC If you go with the Tremere ending Strauss tells you that the beast can take many forms and LaCroix's obsession with power and not caring anything else is a sign of him giving into his beast or something like that
First time playthrough, just about to head into a museum. Is this game supposed to be an ImSim? It doesn't seem like one. I'm surprised at how few real missions there have been. That Oceanview House was like the first real one you do, and by the way, talk about huge disappointment. That level is easily THE most talked about part of this game and it was a few jump scares, one diary entry, and then you leave. No payoff, nothing.So far the game has been fine, but nothing outstanding or noteworthy aside from the facial animations which are still impressive. The RPG elements are also strange and don't seem to really effect much either. I chose the Tremere, put my points into domination and guns, but guns fucking suck so every big fight has been: blood purge and then punch them with my like 1 unarmed because it outdamages my guns.
>>3642467Mercurio says can't or don't, he probably asked LaCroix and only got the gist that vampires don't fuck. I like to think he was lying so Jeanette can't pump his ghoul's dick and then pump him for info. Going off tabletop you can fuck if you spend some blood on it, but you don't enjoy the sex itself because it's nothing compared to feeding and you're probably an emotionless serial killer anyway.
>>3643791guns being garbage is only really true for the starter revolver, it should be fine after that
>>3643791You should have the shotgun which does a good amount of damage and knocks most enemies down. I use that until I get to Hollywood, then you can get the Colt Anaconda and the automatic shotgun from Mercurio or Fat Larry I think. Press tab with them to set them to full auto and they melt pretty much anything.
>>3642467Masquerade vampires 100% can fuck, the high humanity only thing you hear repeated often enough is V5 lore and I have no idea why it gets repeated so much. A lot of the biggest perverts in Masquerade are low humanity or not even on humanity at all, the Sabbat is famous for being a bunch of weird sex freaks. VtM even had an official erotica book that has several low or no humanity elders fucking each other. Now I will admit, the official material does waffle on this a lot. Sometimes a book will say "vampires absolutely don't fuck" and then another book will say "they 100% do". Sometimes the same book will contradict itself on this point. Most don't do it because a casual sexual encounter is at best a little less pleasurable than drinking blood for so much more work. Mercurio, as a ghoul, knows only a little more than the player does, and was told by probably LaCroix, or a previous master that vamps don't fuck. Those that do have sex are either doing it as a part of a legitimate romance or have a perversion so strong it actually gets them off enough to be worth doing it instead of feeding. Hell I think the high humanity thing is a weird modernism of trying to be more "sex positive" by saying only high humanity vamps want to fuck for any possible reason.
>>3643837I wanted to use the 9mm uzi, but it has such insane spread that I can only make it effective by stunning people and then standing right next to them unloading it. >>3643906Yeah I got the shotgun from the diner ambush, but it still doesn't seem to compare to stun/punch. It's so slow and does like 20 damage. I'm not aiming at the head though since I didn't expect a in depth system, but I guess I'll try it.
>>3644055Only zombies take headshot damage. How many points do you have in your Firearms stat? I'd always get it up to 5 or 6 by that point and it worked really well for me. But you have to give it time for the crosshair to shrink and get close to the enemy or else not enough pellets hit.
>>3644055>I wanted to use the 9mm uzi, but it has such insane spread that I can only make it effective by stunning people and then standing right next to them unloading it.Also, use this like a semi auto gun unless you're right next to them. Do taps or burst fires. Still need your Firearms skill a bit higher for it to work otherwise the spread is still really high but it was decent enough when I used it a bit during my last playthrough.
>>3644062>>3644063About to load up the game. I'll check out firearm skill.
>>3643791If the hotel didn't hit you then I'm afraid the problem is with you. I don't mean to be insulting or defensive of the game, but it's a genuinely good bit.I'm guessing you're not into horror movies.
>>3644077I love horror movies. It's a dorky stage that's incredible short and mostly uneventful.
>>3643791>That level is easily THE most talked about part of this gameBullshit. The mod to skip it is the second most downloaded following the sewers skip.
>>3644087>Bullshit. The mod to skip it is the second most downloaded following the sewers skip.Do zoomers really?
>>3644089These mods were made before most zoomers were old enough to play this kind of vidya, projecting zoomer trying to fit.
>>3644087you don't need a mod to skip the hotel, just have to know a couple console commands. the only people using it are people too afraid to do it normally or they've already done it before though.
>>3644092>These mods were made before most zoomers were old enough to play this kind of vidya, projecting zoomer trying to fit.I played VtmB when it came out, I was in high school at the time. The sewer has always been regarded as a slog and a low point in the game, but I have never heard of anyone complaining about the hotel, much less installing a mod to skip it. I cannot comprehend feeling the need to do so.
>>3644096nta. Only part I remember people whining about the hotel is whats-her-face getting killed.
>>3640717Nta but that was interesting
>>3644089When you play it enough times it has nothing to surprise you with. There is no roleplaying involved during the quest and you don't need to do anything other than walk and pick up one item.
Alright, played all night and then my game crashed. It was acting really weird and loading into certain screens was causing super low frame rates. I just killed Bach. He ran down from his sniper spot and I camped a building where he couldn't hit me and just whittled his health down. Got back to La Croix and I guess there's supposed to be debris in front of the building but it's not visible. In La Croix's suite, nearly every asset had been replaced with a cabinet. I went back outside and the taxi had also turned into TWO cabinets, stacked awkwardly with the guy floating in them. Then my game just crashed lol. I'm going to be alone on this, but my favorite mission so far has been the sewers. It was substantially long, and drained me of all resources (the ugly vampire boss in the house was incredibly hard and I ran out of all my ammo) which in turn forced me to consider every action, AND it taught me how stealth works in the game. Turns out it's not by sight -- purely numbers. So with my sneaking at 6 I've been strolling past everyone and casting suicide. If I get "caught" I walk into another room and crouch and everyone loses me. I couldn't imagine how easy it would be with even higher sneak. The game has become far more manageable now. tl;dr I'm enjoying the game despite it being horribly unfinished and janky, although I would never consider this a must play classic. It IS in line for a remake to actually finish it.
>>3644227That's your choice. Why are you speeding through it? Do you skip all the dialogue, too?
>>3644314Are you using mods and/or fan patches?
>>3644314The game has memory leak issues that nobody has been able to fix. If you start seeing assets being replaced then all you have to do is restart the game.I liked the sewers too though. I wouldn't say they were my favorite but I didn't really have a negative opinion of it at all after my first playthrough.
>>3643791>The RPG elements are also strange and don't seem to really effect much either.What games do you consider good RPGs?
>>3644357zelda
>>3644331Just that unofficial patch everyone recommends to get the game running. So now I'm on a werewolf boss that seems impossible. I have to survive for three minutes and he kills me in three hits. I ran back to the tram building and figured I'd cheese him by blocking the door, but he hit me through it and then broke it down. I literally have nothing I can do here unless they really expect me to get lucky and juke him around trees for several minutes.
>>3635496Nothing does, really. Very unique game. It is beyond tragic that Troika went out of business because no one else bought it. I generally hate "action" "rpgs", yet this is one of my favorite games ever. The characters as great, the writing witty, the level progression satisfying, and the options fun.
>>3644366Take a look around the observatory. Something might help.
>>3644373I didn't even know there WAS an observatory. I wish the cutscene with Nines didn't play the second you walk outside because I have no idea what my surroundings are and I get no time to look. And it's hitting me now that even though I'm playing the mage class, there's no healing spell or items even. I mean I guess it usually doesn't matter because I can hide and heal. Bosses are really the only thing that comes close to killing me now.
>>3644388in bloodlines all vampires have bloodheal and blood packs heal too
>>3644396What's bloodheal? I don't see that anywhere. I rarely find blood packs either.
>>3644388Tremere have an infinite blood and health generator going once you have enough points in Thaumaturgy. Steal their blood from afar, pop Bloodheal if you need to, that's it.
>>3644366Werewolves in VTM are much stronger than vampires, and this particular one is pretty much impossible to kill without some clever thinking, like the other anon hinted at. You get more exp for "solving" it that way, but your only goal is to not die to the werewolf.
>>3644400Blood Heal is only in the plus patch. You find a few blood packs throughout the game but you can buy them from certain NPCs.
Is there a mod that makes blood frenzy/need to feed/humanity/masquerade and, most importantly, walking as a Nosferatu in the public an actual problem? I remember I barely needed to use the sewers if I just kept my distance on the streets. Humanity meant literally nothing. Masquerade? Had to lose points on purpose to see what happens. Maybe for the first one I remember some mod that made you continuously lose blood.
>>3644592https://www.moddb.com/mods/bloodlines-hard-difficultyThis is the only thing I know of that increases the difficulty for some things but not specifically what you're asking for. I haven't tried it so I can't tell you what it's really like though.
>>3644580Oh okay, I must not have that. Yeah I went through the last bit of blood packs I found during the sewers.>>3644427I'll look around. I just hate having to skip through the dialogue every time just to immediately fail. Maybe I'll make a quick save after and hope for the best.>>3644401I can't tell why BloodStrike only sometimes returns with their blood. I'll stand still and it just randomly comes back. I'm thinking it may be range based too?
https://tiermaker.com/categories/video-games/vampire-the-masquerade---bloodlines-characters-169624>community average ranking of characters
I hate how accurate the Chinese guys are with these uzis! With maxed out firearms these still want to fly out of my hand if I shoot more than one bullet at a time. I guess I should just consider them weak pistols that can carry extra ammo. And also, is there any way to reduce sway when aiming? There's almost no point in zooming in with the few guns that can if the sway is that bad despite my high firearms skill.
>>3644996You maxed out your Ranged stat with Firearms and Perception right?
>>3645023Firearms is maxed and Perception is at a ... 3 I believe. So nearly there.
>>3645029If you get it to 10 the sway on zoom should disappear completely. I'm not sure about the regular uzi but I remember with 10 Ranged I was able to spray the Killmatic SMG without much of a problem too.There isn't much difference between 8 and 10 for Melee but with Ranged it actually makes a difference.
>>3644427>>3644373Okay so I was eventually able to get past this, but I absolutely hated this part. Hands down worst "mission" in the game. It's effective in establishing terror, but I had no clue what to do or where to go and had zero time to experiment and none of my abilities helped. So I don't know how Nine wasn't found by the wolves and killed earlier.Anyway, I ran through the observatory and found a room with a massive telescope and a switch that wouldn't do anything, but by the time I reached that the werewolf found me. I survived by crouch-walking around the telescope and camping on the smallest part of the second floor, behind it as far as I could get without falling off. The werewolf just paced below me and I waited here until the time ran out. Nearly died though escaping because of the way doors work in the game. The tram doors open out, so I ran to them and got caught on them and ate a shit ton of damage right at the finish line. The monster is so fast that I don't know how you'd survive normally without cheesing it like I did and I'm a light, dexterity mage (not sure if there is weight or speed altering stats). I feel like just running through there for 3 minutes straight like Scooby Doo would be torture. gif related. me this whole mission.
>>3645079As a follow up, I made a save after the timer ran up and I could leave, so I could try things out. Loaded that one back up after escaping and ran around the observatory. Eventually found the shack out back with a switch that didn't immediately do anything, but when I went back in, the telescope doors opened. That's when I was like "Oh maybe I can trap him." Strangely though, getting him up TO those doors was awkward as he didn't know where I went and had trouble getting to me. Its not really the game's fault for this, but I'm not sure I would have considered crushing it without some hints as that's not a gameplay mechanic anywhere else. I end up complaining that games are too guided, but when you're asked to actually think for yourself, I have trouble with it, because I'm too autistically focused on what I've been shown is possible! I make things harder on myself for not trying.I appreciate all the people answering my random questions. After I beat this I'm going to restart as a melee user and see how the game feels. See if boss fights are any easier. As a Tremere, I think I've had to cheese every boss I've encountered -- past a certain point.
>>3627342Hey man, I'm lost. Where's a good thread/board to discuss concept games? I'm pretty sure there's a place full of wannabe 4chan game devs somewhere, but I don't know..
The difficulty is so back and forth in VTM. Most enemy encounters are nothing. I have a 6 in sneak and no one can see me, but bosses are so cheap. The game always unequips your weapon and I can't set my keys to anything other than F1-3, so EVERY boss fight starts with me looking down at the keys, finding the gun that I think might work, scrolling like a madman to get the right spell, and taking 2 hits in the process.I have no clue how to defeat Ming. You can't side dodge her vertical swipes and the room is too small. I can shoot her tentacles off, but then that spawns like two extra Mings and they corner me and beat my ass. I just want this damn game over with. Tremere was a bad choice. Blood magic doesn't work on anything beyond goons and it's nearly useless in boss battles. What a shitty class.
>>3645103>The game always unequips your weapon and I can't set my keys to anything other than F1-3Press K to bring up the hotkey menu>I have no clue how to defeat Ming.Pic related. She takes some bonus damage on headshots but not much else you can do. It's an interesting fight but poorly balanced. Don't feel bad if you have to cheat to get past her.>Blood magic doesn't work on anything beyond goons and it's nearly useless in boss battles.Spamming the level 1 Thaumaturgy spelll does a lot of damage. Though if you're using the plus patch with the casting animations it doesn't work as well. I had a lot of fun when I played Tremere, I got Thaumaturgy and Dominate both up to level 3 and that felt like enough to be a decent mage. And it helps if you stock up on blood packs since you don't have to buy much else and it lets you cast without worrying about running out of blood.
>>3627342To Agartha, sirMy shota harem awaits their master.
>>3644979Here's mine
>>3645149>E in E tierheh
>>3627342Why is there so little source_filmmaker porn animations? I want to empty my nutsack to Jeanette and that cringe ass lefty chick who needs a-fixin' with a-dickin'
>>3644979I'm surprised Gary is that high. I agree that he has excellent lines and great voice acting but the guy is still a butthurt Cleopatra. He insults Toreador character for caring about appearances and latest trends while he dresses up skeletons in expensive cltohes in his haven and plays Für Elise to them
>>3643791>Is this game supposed to be an ImSim?No. ImSim is a retarded designation and barely a real genre. It's an action RPG whose story branches near the end, with optional side quests. Your dialogue choices do matter, at times, but the story structure doesn't truly change. At best you lock yourself out of a mission or rewards, but don't really affect most of the story.
>>3645126Okay, the K key is super important and I never knew. That has greatly helped with combat. Much appreciated! I was ONLY able to defeat Ming by again, cheesing her, but accidentally this time. I started hugging up against her, Dark Souls style because she was slow to turn and that seemed to work. She would run away if you stuck to her. The time I beat her, she ran away to the staircase leading to the fight and then got stuck and didn't do anything as I spammed blood strike. I'm interested in trying the game again now. So I did beat it. Thanks for all the help everyone! The ending was surprisingly nothing and anticlimactic. I told Strauss and they showed up and arrested La Croix. Cut to black. I was so fed up with my first playthrough that I was just going to open the sarcophagus in hopes we all died, but I didn't get to. Immediately started up as Gangrel to see how they felt and I'm going melee/unarmed. Already made it up to Hollywood, about to do the sewers! Just knowing how missions go, how the stealth works, and the K key has made this playthrough a breeze!
>>3645323>Immediately started up as Gangrel to see how they felt and I'm going melee/unarmed. Already made it up to Hollywood, about to do the sewers!Dude you're zooming through the game. Take your time, walk around, look around. Listen to Deb.I honestly think you're unable to enjoy the atmosphere at the rate you're playing. Let alone think about what you're actually doing, reading your previous posts.
I think if Deb is half as cute and sexy as her voice, then she must be the prettiest girl in town.
>>3645101Seconding. I'm in the earliest stages of working on an amateur game and would love to just shoot the shit about ideas and design choices with other people.
>>3645334I'm on my second playthrough, why wouldn't I zoom through? My goal was to see how a melee oriented class felt compared to Tremere and turns out, it's been 100x easier. Every boss so far I just pop Fortitude and go to town with my sledgehammer. In one casual sitting I got all the way up to the Leopold Society mission. The game has awesome atmosphere, easily its best feature, but you're greatly overstating how much there is to do in this game. Outside of the few NPC quest givers, you can't talk to people and key characters don't often get new dialogue. I also have no reason to return to my haven because there's nothing there for me -- so I only hear the radio at the gas station in Hollywood.
>>3644366without a hint of irony, I think you should have played this game in a vacation or some such comfier mood.Game is considered immersive thanks to the high amount of details, at least in the first half. Gaming got better and worse since, and few games rewarded me so well for snooping around and finding skill books, secret quest rewards like the werewolf one and useless stuff like the Radio and TV show.On top of that there's also learning about the VtM setting and realizing YOU are special because you have the power of common sense. Jeanette, Ash, LaCroix, Ming are emotionally compromised and either give you speech checks to pull you into their bullshit or cannot be reasoned with
this game is so immature and misogynist towards women
>>3645927>this game is so immature and misogynist towards womenThis is an immature attitude. Maturity is accepting that the misogynists were right, and you were wrong and brainwashed.
>>3645713Because you barely understood what you were doing the first time around. You're blazing through dialogue without reading the subtext of most of them being fuck-ups or attempts at manipulations. You had zero knowledge of what you were doing and either don't explore or are using a guide, but then you couldn't even figure out the werewolf fight. Honestly dude, you're not enjoying the game.Btw, you're able to kill the werewolf with the patches without crushing it. GL.>>3645923This. Maybe it's a generational thing, maybe it's an age thing, but Bloodlines just has a 'vibe', a mood of urban decay and being a terror in the night, recently turned and still remember what it meant to be normal. You have to get into or you don't enjoy it ig.
>>3645974>being a terror in the night, recently turned and still remember what it meant to be normal. You have to get into or you don't enjoy itFor me, it’s VtM:Redemption
>>3645923>>3645974Both of you are completely wrong and also imagining things. So now having beaten it on a second playthrough as a Gangrel melee/fortitude build, if it weren't for the Ming Xiao fight, this would be the easiest way to beat the game. No money spent on ammo or guns, just a few armors. I never needed a single bloodpack until the Ming fight either since my strength meant I could actually drain more of the enemies. With Fortitude nobody could hurt me in regular levels aside from the bigger Sabbat guys. Even the bosses all went down pretty easily. So now I'm going to try once more with a gun build to see how that feels. Oh and I went Hacking since it's improved with Wits, but turns out there are almost no beneficial computers to hack. Most of them just get you some goofy emails. So I think Lockpicking is the right choice. All the way to the end there are high doors that skip chunks of the stages. If the thread is still up I'll report back with my findings.
>>3645149Waifu ghoul girl below Damsel is my only disagreement.
What other games would I like if I love vtmb.
>>3646154Deu Sex
>>3646066>>3645086you don't need to cheese fights as Tremere. Tremere and Toreador are THE cheese clans. Also, I'm not seeing things, I'm not Malkavian.
>>3645927How so? It's full of strong womyn.
The scary head+arms screeching monsters in the sewers are more traumatizing than Nothinghappens Hotel.
>>3627342Is he Cain?
>>3646298No
>>3646305Is he Tim Cain?
>>3646323No, Tim only worked on the boss fight logic. Did you like the boss fight logic in Bloodlines? Tim worked on it.
>>3646179It was a joke, anon.>>3645927The team was talented enough to be able to make a compelling, complex character that looked like a complete slut and didn't come off as vulgar. That's real skill.On the subject of sexy time, when I was 16 the game blew my fucking mind because female NPCs were trying to climb my character and as a baby dyke that felt amazing and unitonically gave me enough confidence to try dating irl.
>>3646333confident or not, you will never be a woman
>>3646450>no girls on the internet, only trannies!!!!Imagine being so afraid of women. You're probably gay.
Jeanette is objectively the most egregious case of relatively popular character with sexy body + disproportionately low material utilizing said sexy body.
i am the only girl itt
>>3646510wrong, there is also me
>>3627795>we wuz sultanz an sheit
>>3640668Naughty word, like "fuck", "shit" or "cunt".
>>3646510As if. It's a girl game. Just like Alice: Madness Returns. Every girl on the board, and statistically there are going to be several, is watching this thread.
>>3645974>Maybe it's a generational thing, maybe it's an age thingNah, there are kids that are quite alright too. Met them online and IRL. He's pretty much incompatible with this game so he's getting frustrated bashing his head at the surface but perhaps some day he'll return to it and be able to appreciate it. At least he's trying, much more than can be said about the majority of that generation.
On a replay now as a Ventrue with guns and turns out guns just stink. The first half of the game is almost entirely melee enemies that all teleport up to you when they strike, which makes shooting them a real pain in the ass. It gets a bit easier in the second half when more carry guns, but with both of these it's far easier and quicker to run up and melee them. It's also easier to strike multiple people this way. Only shotguns carry use because they send foes flying (sometimes), so on 1v1's that's potentially the better option, but melee is still solid. And I think no matter what offense style you choose, Ming Xiao is still going to be unbearable. She's honestly the only thing that needs a patch to skip around. You literally have to build your entire character around dealing with her. Everything else is a piece of cake. Even the Sheriff does almost nothing and has terrible AI.Every time I play, my sessions always end with the memory leak problems. Today when I had to stop because the game wouldn't work, everything in my apartment was a Chinese man rolled up into a ball.
>>3646519>2007>ancient
>>3646584>I'm a boysometimes I wish I was dead already
>>3646582I don't remember having issues with Ming Xiao as a Venture. Maybe I used a flame thrower?
>>3646584If you gays for long into an abyss, the abyss gayses also into you.
>>36465842007 newfags were nearly as old relative to 2016 election tourists, as 2016 election tourists are today, relative to current newfags. Let that sink in.
>>3646645Haha 2007 that's crazy. Imagine being on 4chan for 17 years who would do that haha
>>3646656My account on Something Awful is old enough to drink but I haven’t been able to bear going there for years
>>3646659I've always hated that community (I never posted, but I used to go there for the front page back when they were the vanguard of web culture). Everyone here is an asshole, but you can say what you want to say. So when people are assholes, they are upfront and honest about it. SA were mean spirited hypocrites. Searching the web looking for degenerates to publicly mock while themselves being drug addicts and babyfurs.
>>3646660It worked out in the end.
>>3646660>>3646665While playing IWD2 last year I saw the tombstone for Lowtax and it hits differently nowadays. Rip Moots grandpa
>>3646668He was as good as dead after the Boll debacle.
>>3646645>3 years is the same than 8 years
>>3646496I wish I could be there for Jeanette before she became damaged goods. I would turn her into my tard wife.
>>3646681Anon...
>>3646645>Let that sink in.No, no I will absolutely be doing no such thing.
>>3646817what's this?
>>3646937
>>3647113but how is that related? what is it supposed to say?
>>3627342Lore-accurate Cain.
>>3627342Be quiet and drive (far away)https://youtu.be/FROn3LtGFl0?si=vJJwwUOXP9LhGSym
>>3647522You got any facts to back that up?
>>3645927>>3646179>>3646333Educate yourself. Intellectual woman tells it how it ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xBrSTUeKGA
>>3647649>open link>predict it's a troon, 5s into it>few minutes later: "becoming a vampire is just like joining the trans community"
>>3644089I skip the ocean hotel and the sewer because they're too spooky.
>>3627342>tfw Toreador with Malk bf
>>3650884haven't seen that in a while
>>3650884There's no such thing
>>3650884Is this creature supposed to be a vampire
>Play Clan Quest>get to Chinatown>Added sidequest where some random Kuei-jin girl becomes your vampire gf out of nowhere and you have to do a bunch of coomer shit with her to get the quest xp>ends with "btw I'm trans"great mod
>>3651529>>Play Clan QuestThat's where you made your big mistake
>>3651529you know you liked it
Trans rights are vampire rights. Watch >>3647649
>>365152999 out of 100 mods require actual brain damage to enjoy
>>3651529>>Play Clan QuestYou were asking for it.
Is Bloodlines your most replayed RPG game (with a built level structure, not just mashing and killing in randomized games like in Diablo-likes)? I think it's still higher than Deus Ex for me, but maybe 2-3 more plays of Deus Ex and it gets higher. Maybe FNV already is higher.
>>3652010I replayed it more times than any other game like it. 3 times. Only did so because of how short and easy the entire game was. By the end of the third I decided I don't think the game is worth playing and will never touch it again.
>>3652010I've played it dozens of times, definitely my most replayed game overall.
>>3652010For me it's Morrowind, no contest.
>>3652010I finished it twice and started it 1000 times. I can't help but metagame the clinic everytime and it really gives me headaches.It doesn't help that the game forces you into the same playstyle everytime. I wanted to do a guns + feed character, but the stat that governs feeding in combat also boosts your unarmed, so might as well...Also, in retrospect, except for the final act, it's not like there's any branching choices
>>3652175>I wanted to do a guns + feed character, but the stat that governs feeding in combat also boosts your unarmed, so might as well...If you play Malk/Ventrue/Tremere you can use your first Dementation/Dominate ability to feed on anyone without a stat check. The other clans are mostly suited to melee anyway.
>>3652175metagame the clinic? the santa monica clinic? what's there to meta?
>>3627356>Vampire the Eternal StruggleNGMI. Get the Jyhad card.
>>3652250bitch, I actually might
>>3651529CQM has such massive swings in writing quality it's crazy.
>>3627342why did you shank your brother? militant veganism?
>>3652200"Metagame" might be a bit of an exageration. I mean I always plan my game around doing all the quests there at the same time so I only visit once.
Hunter mode in the plus patch is fun but I have no idea how the holy light spell is supposed to work
>>3653267That some multiplayer mod?
>>3653362No in the newer versions of the UOP you can play a short combat-focused campaign as one of the vampire hunters. They have their own set of disciplines, don't passively regen health, don't have the innate resistance to bullet damage vampires do and pray outside of combat to recharge meter instead of gulping blood.
>>3653267I just ignored it and maxed out shield and shooting, plus decent melee and stealth. Was kinda fun as a dude who has played bloodlines enough to understand the janky combat, but it shows how much bloodlines relies on story. Did a second run without any faith powers (except the heal, it'd be impossible without the heal) and it was fun in a masochistic way to be playing as a normal dude. Made me think about how fun a Hunter v.s. monster shooter could be if done well.
>>3627342Santa Monica Pier, a return home...
>>3629194Remember, he found hope in the end.
Which girl be like hwak tuah and spit on that thang
>>3651529yup, and I'm in love with her and her womb
>Newest verions of companion mod allow you to make companions out of extremely minor characters like Carson the bounter hunter who gets captured by Gimble, the other stripper from the quest where you have to kill the Vampire Hunter posing as a stripper for VV, or the bum who asks you for a dollar in the very beginning of the game>But not this cute retard from the quest where you have to get her to shut up and stop telling people about vampiresWhy not? It's so obvious.
>>3657172the only content she needs is bonus dialogue when you feed her to Pisha
>>3657172She's one of the characters where making a follower actually makes sense too since you can actually ghoul a ghoul whose original master went missing
>>3657172>>But not this cute retardI would rather cut of my penis than call her cute.
>>3656388yaaas, trans rights
Damsel and Jeanette are the only cute girls
>>3658271For me it's the Tremere PC.
>>3627342To Vesuvius please. I have a date.
>>3638570Doesn't really matter. We play as a special snowflake late gen vampire that destroys everything somehow.
>>3658361I'm an Andrei diablerie truther.
>>3658359non-sexual bump
>>3658359VV hits so many checklists>she's a lying cunt and a poster (or even an actual Poser) who threw one speech check after another at youuse and abuse her, punishment-based sex>she learned what's expected of her and acts appropriately in the Jihad>be useful to each other, get paid, maybe have "business" sex while that still matters to you>had a truly horrible past so now she genuinely likes/wants/needs a nice guy (who happens to be rich, a celebrity and/or able to kill others easilyDreamGirl,jpgWhat I like most is that you easily ruffle her feathers if you're a malk or if you hard pass her flirtingI like to think she took Strauss' refusal in the intro personally and now NEEDS validation almost as much as blood
>>3661321>call her by her real name>she gets madMalk master race wins again.
>>3661337Does her getting mad help you get sex? If not, how is that winning?
>>3661714As a vampire you don't get pleasure from sex, unlike owning dumb whores.
>>3629651He's still updating that patch? Tf, it's done, I remember even years back people were already saying this, that it wasn't really a patch anymore but basically a mod. I too would like more mods for Bloodlines, new stories and whatnot, there's not much of that.
>>3651529I'd supressed this garbage from my mind. Thank you.
>>3661856"Only ever played vanilla Bloodlines" chads, we can't stop winning
>>3661763Source? Peer reviewed article?
>>3661938He doesn't have one. Official VTM erotica novel, never forget boys.
