Share strange, unconventional mods that you've played. I've been playing wizardry VI remake in the engine of wizardry VII, and it's actually not bad, maybe the best way to experience that game now. Sadly, the author changed class balance and added items that weren't in the original game, but I am willing to forgive that for an automap.Another one is MMMerge that combines might and magic VI VII VIII together, but I think people who like MM are very familiar with it, it might be the most famous mod for the trilogy. I've only played VI from that mod, and I enjoyed it, not sure I would recommend it over the original though
I love Wizardry 7
>>3845004Me too
>>3845190me three
>>3843473Opinion discarded and opposite assumedThis is what happens you dumb fucking shit
>>3845247>This is what happensGood
Let's discuss games in the "scrollslike" subgenre; basically games that have the design philosophy of 3D Elder Scrolls/3D Fallout/Gothic, but that are not necessarily in those series. Examples include:>Two Worlds 1-2>Elex>Outward>Gedonia>Tainted Grail: Fall of AvalonWhich "scrollslike" games are your favorite? Which upcoming games in the genre are you looking forward to? Can we come up with a name for this subgenre that doesn't sound as gay as "scrollslike?"
>>3843694I've never played it, but Dread Delusion keeps getting pushed on my Steam recommended and it seems to fit the genre. The reviews are keen on comparing to Morrowind. I'm keeping an eye on Tainted Grail, personally. The demo hooked me, but the recent reviews make it sound like the most recent patch was a dud, and I've literally never paid more than £30 for a video game. It's 30 pence above what I'd normally grab, as petty as that sounds.
>>3843949I love Tainted Grail to be honest. It feels like the logical evolution of Skyrim. Every negative review I've read has me wondering what game the reviewers are playing, because it's not the one I'm playing.
>>3843967It can be a bit janky.
>>3843694I fucking love Outward. It's so underappreciated it's almost criminal.You forgot to mention Dread Delusion.
>>3844215The jank is comparable to Skyrim and to some extent comes with the territory. I don't let stuff like that bother me if the base game is fun.
>Agility/Speed boosts your chance to escape fights>there are regular looking fights that will cock block you even if you've maxed it out.Why do I fall for it every time.Agility is not a good stat in games. I don't care if it 'influences accuracy'. It seems to, at best, put me on par with even hits with dodgy enemies and at worst just makes me wonder why I didn't max Strength or Magic/Intelligence instead.ITT: Retard traps you fall for every time.
It's one of the most important stat in megami tensei 1 and 2 because it also lowers enemy ambushes and raises your chance to strike first. On top of the fleeing thing.
>>3839263>be max level>can't run from random encounters in the starting zoneI hate this shit.
>>3839263>He cares about Agility/Speed boosting escape rate and not Agility/Speed increasing your move rate/letting you go earlier
>>3839263Always depends on the game. People talk about "action economy", where speed is often better because it lets you do more things before the enemy gets a chance to.If you get one super-strong attack per turn but miss, you're fucked. If you have 5 attacks, and run half the battlefield, you can afford to miss a couple of times, reposition, hit a key target, then reposition again for safety.
>>3839294>just waste your time in fights that don't offer any challenge or rewardRetard.
AAAR VAAR AAALDAA VAAAAARI think this game becomes 10 % better simply because of the main menu music.
>>3844464>Better combat>Better story>Better dungeons>Better quest design>Potions and food are actually useful nowAre you on crack?
>>3844903Let me translate....>Better combatHas dash>Better storyA redditor's take on Arthurian myth>Better dungeonsAlso mostly same-looking caves>Better quest designThey are the same, but it's 2025 nowComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>3844722>This depends heavily on what source you're reading. These tales are 1500 years old and constantly Frankenstein'd together or torn apart with some characters elevated and others cast down (like Gawaine for some reason).Agreed.>It's more fair to say generally these guys were powerful men with powerful flaws That is essentially what I wanted to say. >but few you could say were outright malicious, wicked or evilTrue, but they are definitely their own antagonists. The Tainted Grail Camelot is rather similar desu - they are not blatantly antagonistic and villainous, but deeply flawed and misguided, although it does use a much coarser ADHD brush to paint them. Point being - Camelot being decadent and it's knights flawed is not le postmodern invention of le gay poles, it's been a key theme of Arthurian mythos for centuries. >It's not like how GRRM the fat fuck abuses the moral ambiguity term and make everyone a drooling psychopath that happens to love their mother.I'm not a huge fan of the Fat Fuck, but breh you're strawmanning. I can name about 30 Arhurian period pieces that are both way more blatant and worse written than ASoIaF. Small wonder, seeing as those were the pulp slop of their time.
Is this the earlier Avalon and the shining stone tower a Menhir?
>>3844629NTA but my closest encounter with "original legends" about Arthurian knights were two stories bundled in a big book together with the Legend of Nibelungs. The Nibelungs were amazing but the Arthurian tales... I think the first one was about Percival and it went like:>dad is a knight but killed so mom makes him live in a cave and maybe crossdress>meet some knights and start asking what's that about everything they have>decide to become a knight>ride on a horse because adventure>encounter a bad knight>knock him out of the saddle, take his horse and armor>encounter bandits>knock them out of the saddle, take their horses and armor>encounter bad knights>knock them out of the saddle, take their horses and armor>encounter evil lord>knock him and his men out of the saddle, take their horses and armor>encounter a man-eating ogre (with maybe 3 beautiful daughters)Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
But devs made the world too quirky for it to be enjoyable. How do you fuck up this bad?
>>3843961You don't need to watch a 16 minute video to answer this question by the way.>is it like rogue?It's a roguelike.>does it deviate from the rogue formula?Then it's a game with roguelike elements. If it's not a turn based, tile based RPG with random maps and enemies then it's not a roguelike. Permadeath is technically a requirement but I mostly just hate it when people call action games with an item randomizer "roguelikes", especially when they almost always have meta progression which a roguelike should never have aside from maybe unlocking a new class or species to roll.
>>3843758>Race is an offbranch of a speciesIf "Europoid", "Mongoloid" and "Negroid" are offbranches, then what is the "main stem" of humanity? An additional problem is that an "offbranch" (the term we typically use is "clade" or "monophyletic group") needs to be that - a distinct "offbranch", a divergence. None of the human races are that. They are all genetic kitchen sinks, umbrella'd under a handful of morphological traits, none of which are even applied consistently. Humans are fucking mutts. Half the people who are called "nigger" in the US by now have in fact less African admixture than Madeirans do. >>3843879Anon are you alrgiht?
>>3843902>most women>around 120The author of this post has <90 IQ.
>>3844645>If "Europoid", "Mongoloid" and "Negroid" are offbranches, then what is the "main stem" of humanity?Can you elaborate on this a little bit more? I'm actually curious, cause the way you're describing it still sounds like a definitional problem to me. Surely the fact that we can identify Europoid, Mongoloids, and Negroids in general implies that there is a minimum set of criteria to consider someone belonging to one of these, no? Or are you implying the inverse, that these distinctions actually don't exist? If so, why did we think they did and then what happened to make us stop considering that? And on the question of main stem of humanity, if you're implying this doesn't exist and that in actuality all of these difference humanoids sprout up roughly around the same time, is it just sheer coincidence they can reproduce? CAN they reproduce? And if these unrelated species can reproduce, what about other examples of species exhibiting similar features but unable to reproduce, like a Pig and a Peccary?
>>3842118Combat wheelchair may be but >>3842110 this faggot shit is 100% official D&D faggotry and if you have been playing D&D any time since they released 3.0 then you fucking love the cock you massive flaming boy molesting fruit.
https://grimuar.pl/planescapetorment/blizzard-in-baator-dlcBunch of Polacks are making a new mod for PT
>>3832485I'm pretty sure he's supposed to be yeeted to Gehenna. Him keeping his body and memories and mega dumb, of course.
>>3843315>For what porpoise?so i can play it
>>3844887poor modders, wasting their time for such an unworthy goal
>>3832485It's going to be good, anons.This is my objective prediction.
>>3845117Polish people haven't ever made a good RPG though. I don't think you guys like them, just look at how much you hate this board.
You can imprison your little sister, kill her mother, punch her in the face and usurp the throne from her. All after she trusted you.10/10
The scene where the MC usurps the throne is also kinda retarded? Like all the nobles have gathered to attend the coronation of your sister and you just fucking burst in with your soldiers arrest her and crown yourself instead. I get you technically have a claim but why the fuck would the nobles just go along with this spergout? Just cause you put the crown on your head doesn't automatically mean you're king. If this was realistic they would all pretend to go along with it then turn on you the second they get home.
>>3844623this is exactly why historical monarchies held hostages from the families of the nobilitythey called them 'guests' but they couldn't leave and if you kicked up a stink about it they they 'fell down some stairs', you received a polite letter asking for a replacement, and a bunch of soldiers suddenly started camping out right outside your cities
Nevermind, a good chunk of the nobles do actually betray you and break the sister out of prison. It seems the usurper route is going to be a 3 way civil war.
To this day I cannot win in the final fight if I don't pick up the commander or tactician boon or whatever in the intro. Kinda annoying.
>>3844895Can't wait to see the conclusion in 10 years
Let's talk about RPG settings that are unconventional, alien, surreal, strange, etc. At least relatively speaking for the genre. Been in a mood to experience these kinds of places.
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>>3844389>mfw baitkun posts yet another rpg set in a strange volcanic land with giant mushrooms and transport bugs ruled by 3 false elf gods
>>3840100>bug clericI will now play your game.
>>3844401Pick a druid, cleric sucks in that setting.
>>3836416I'm actually reading picrel, and I'm so disappointed not many people capitalized on making a game in such an alien setting where you hhave encounters is impossible almost dreamlike scenarios with incomprehensible alien entities. I think Planescape comes closest, but Book of the New Sun feels like such a underutilized gold mine for RPG settings.
Putting political intrique, moral ambiguity and complexity into something like Star Wars is a losing battle. The series is built off of the black and white morality serials that George Lucas was reading as a child. You fundamentally cannot put these things into the series for that reason. Anyone who disagrees doesn't actually understand what Star Wars is supposed to be. Star Wars is supposed to be simplistic.
>>3833578>Because its a black and white fantasy universe. Not a political thriller.Anon the first movie begins with a military spaceship violating a diplomatic spaceship's immunity due to the latter being used for illegal clandestine operations, with legalese being invoked to and by Dark McEvil wizard. And the Bad Guys are 100% right on that one. >The entire empire is ruled by a guy named "Dark McEvil wizard" that looks like a samurai and......also the protagonists father whose redemption is the central element of the plot. >There's no chance at nuance. It's just not the point of Star Wars.You have zero familiarity with media if you think Star Wars has zero nuance. It's relatively plain in objective terms, but damn super nuanced for a mass culture popcorn blockbuster slopfest. The entire "Established Empire is le Bad, shady semi-criminal shot-first bomb throwing rebel guerillas are le Good" thing was extremely unusual for movies of that segment, and was made as a literal transparent direct commentary on Vietnam according to Lucas himself.
>>3834368>>3834245>Lucas misunderstood SW>Abrams misunderstood SW>Johnson misunderstood SW>Karpyshyn misunderstood SW>Stinnett misunderstood SW>Avellone misunderstood SWName 3 people other than yourself who Understand the Star Wars just right.
>>3842148Anon, anon and anon.Anon thinks he gets it, but not quite. He's coming along, though.
>>3842148>George Lucas>Grand Master Yoda>The Lore Chad>>3842086Just clone yourself bro
can i ask about this other game in this thread?I started Jade Empire and I used the in style mod and it has a bug and has put me off from troubleshooting.anyway the question is what are some nice mods for Jade Empire?
How would you design a jrpg without combat that was more about meeting npcs in a big city and see them interact with each other and just have normal lifes, and then make the female npcs fall in love and get some panis in vagoo action?
>>3845015Some people are weird like that. They want something only because they don't have it. As soon ask you put it in front of them, they flake out.
>>3845015videogames doesn't need to be a challenge to overcome.You don't really have a challenge reading a novel, except you consider reading the words and turning the pages, to be challenge.
"bro rpgs don't need combat" threads are so boring. like, you can't even make an interesting thread, much less an interesting game.
you'd have to make thinking and talking an active part of the roleplay experience like disco elysium; much deeper than just yes/no options common in rpgs and visual novels
>>3844709You just want a porn RPG Maker -visual novel-lite game. Stop disguising it as something special
Last one got archived, so im preemptively making another one.
Its kusoge (poop game)
>>3844422>Considering it's 20~yo nds games they are good20 year old DS rpg may be a higher bar than you realize
>>3844422>>3844611The Luminous arc games are perfectly fine. They don't have any egregious sins, but they don't particularly excel in anything either. In terms of actual game design, they're aggressively safe and inoffensive. Really like the character designs though.Only thing I can gripe about is that the actual SRPG gameplay flow can be a tad slow, but that's a huge problem for alot of games of its kind during the time, and honestly is still a problem for a lot of games like it today.
>>3844612>they aren't infinite space eitherYou should upgrade your reading comprehension chatjeet
>>38446112 has actual waifu endings unlike 3 or all of Stella Glow (except for Hilda), so it wins. I think my priorities are fine, why do you ask?
Luminous Arc 2 is still probably the game that leans into the waifus power you up mechanic in the most literal and in-your-face way possible and I will always respect them for how shameless they are about it.Other games skill or powerup cut-in exhibits MC maybe holding hands with his girl or something. Luminous Arc 2 fucking shows them in a goddamn wedding dress.
I'm tired of pretending these were bad. These were the GOAT.
>>3843440>You are a literal imbecile, I said the fucking opposite, learn to read. I were talking about it being GOOD from my very first post, and saying that the rest of the game were MID. How the fuck did you interpreted it as me saying that it didn't have traps? I never said that. You are just making shit up at this point.>>3842253>Hell, even the rather big final maze is nothing but a plain damn maze - no traps, no spinners, no anti magic grids, no dark spots, just few teleporters here and there. Any amateur Wizardry player would map that garbage in no time.>no trapsSo unless that isn't you, you can kindly shut your big stupid fucking "trap" (pun intended) and quit larping.
>>3842852It was about Drittz, not your party. If you didn’t care for the Dark Elf Gary Stu than it’s a strictly worst version of the other games.
>>3839860Damn there needs to be a way to replace that shit with something legible instead.
I'm a GenX boomer and one of those who had a PC at the time of the Gold box games. Even at the time those games were too archaic and clunky for me to even remotely enjoy. They felt ancient in the early 90's. I can't imagine how they'd look like now.
>>3844523But... there really is no traps in the final maze. Unless the ability to cut through the wall with the risk of stinging a random character with a poisoned vine counts as one.
I've been looking to replay the HBS Shadowrun Trilogy. It's been over a decade since release, have any really great campaigns been released for it?I was going to start up something else instead, but one thing the HBS games do right for WRPGs is the structure and pacing, it's very easy to pick up and put down the game. What games could anons suggestion that work similarly to them?
>>3844250I really wish he wouldn't insist on retarded minmaxing and ai abusing in the combat sections. It makes the use of violence feel like you are actually in danger but on the other hand the engine and framework just dont offer enough complexity to not make it end as metagaming shitfest where you are essentially forced to abuse the silly balancing of HK and Dragonfall.I tried the third one with a character that wasnt an obscenely cyber optimized 0.1 essence machine pushing combat mechanics to the limit and it was pure cancer.Annoying since the writing of Antumbra is so far above Harebrained Schemes its not even comparable to begin with.
I picked up Antumbra on the thread's recommendations, so far it's pretty good. I'm not playing a minmaxed character though and only have it on hard difficulty, but I can see where >>3844489 is coming from. The boss encounter on the first run I wound up cheesing by using Jazz to get 3 AP and move in and out of line of sight to kill him. I realize you can only do so much with the system and most things boil down to dice rolling until you come out on top, but it felt really cheesy.I'm hoping things will get better since I have a second runner now to add a little more nuance to combat. My PC can only shoot his shotgun and hack things and he's not particularly stellar at either yet.
>>3844057>the devs hoped the modding scene would carry like NWNAnd then they proceeded to release three incompatible versions of the game while also further restricting what you are actually able to mod every time. Baffling decisions all around.
>>3844862I just ran in to that problem installing Antumbra, I kept looking in SRHK for it and finally figured out it was made for Dragonfall.
>>3843985Not at all a RPG but the 2007 Shadowrun FPS is actually pretty fun can't wait till more people feel nostalgic so I can actually find full servers for it.
Does anyone still play this game? It was my childhood favorite.
>>3844933this game is sick, I haven't gotten past the final world of act 2 though. i forget what its called. its been like 5 years of me being stuck there
I’m 99% sure you’re referring to Khrysalis! Funnily enough, that world also took me fucking forever to beat lul. The ending kind of sucked but I enjoyed the journey to getting there, I still wish I beat it as a kid though because holy nostalgia. I had never and still have never loved something more than wizard101
