Hello, I wanted to pitch something that I saw /vm/ do. Basically, they go through dead/unpopular mmos together as a group and make a thread to discuss them. I thought it would be a fun way for us to try games we typically wouldn't and find legitimate hidden gems. This thread is to gauge interest and give you an opportunity to shill a game you wanted to try or think is criminally underrated. Only rule is that it should have <500 reviews on Steam to really be considered obscure. Once we get five recs, we can hold a vote. To that end, I'm recommending Cardaire, a short, Yu-Gi-Oh inspired RPG where you build a deck and go on a tournament arc.
>>4010229we play them and post our experiences in the thread for a set period of time. probably 3 weeks. >>4010323Maybe. I was worried people would feel choice paralysis if the list was too big. So far the choices are>Cardaire>Excaliburian>Dungeon Traveler 2 Just need 2 more recs and I'll start the strawpoll. If we don't get to 5 in 2 days, we'll just vote on these 3.
>>4009047I would suggest throwing this out in a popular rpg thread on /v/ or starting a thread with one. also it's a hard sell to get people in on buying unknown games. you'd have to do f2p ones, or easily pirateable
>>4010567I'll just upload whatever we pick in a mega for the thread
The OST is pleasant. Simple As and Duel 2 are my favorites.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvyG8YSVTlQI struggle to think of other shorter RPGs. Helen's Mysterious Castle might be a fun group play. It's only a few hours long.>>4010323I have a few fledgling hours into DT2 and I think something like it in length is highly ambitious.
>>4010925Added to the list. Just need one more.
was kreia that good of a character to warrant such a long video essay?
>>3998626By Star Wars standards yes
>>4009144Because they were rushed to have it release for Episode 3.
>>4010998>Because they were rushed to have it release for Episode 3.Source? Have never heard that claim. It’s plausible but they came out six months apart which is a pretty big gap.
>>4010811Sure, I did too with the first 3, doesn't prevent me from understanding it as intellectually and philosophically vapid.
>>4011006Obsidiots have a prepared excuse for every botched release Obsidian has done.It is NEVER their fault.
is anyone playing this?
>>4008430oh... my first playthrough I got Lilim's thing with 3 keys, so I never actually did that in my first playthrough, lol.That helps, I thought it was a normal door.
>>4008433OOOOOHHH, yea I forgot lmao, my bbasically, yr good on silver keys, although that shit was evil I don't miss doing that 50 hours ago
Well, I did end up getting 3b. In this run I actually triggered 0 of Lilim's events, except the one near Oberon. I triggered all of Seras's that I could though. So I'm not entirely sure how it works, but I'm happy I got it, lol.
>>4008471that's fucking hilarious lmao!someone I know online has decompiled the game recently and is looking through the source files, so we might have an answer for how all this works soonish.lowkey bummed that I'm not gonna be able to play this for a few days, but hopefully by the time I'm back on here posting, you guys will have figured everything out.
I'm back, let's figure out 2B or 3A today lads
>Fighter>Mage>ThiefThis is all you need for an rpg; anything more is just bloat.
>>4005833Hybrids are primarily for fags with main character syndrome who think they're too special to use a real class like the rest of us. Kind of niggas to show up to a session zero with a novel of backstory for their level 1 character
>>3978033Cugel the Clever too since Gygax was a Vance fan
>>3971166cleric for divine powers and anti-undead
>>4010983Yup. Cleric was homebrewed from Dave Arneson’s home games to represent a Van Helsing type vampire hunter priest, back in the 70s
>>3993911While it's unorthodox, there's some synergy between both of these classes that is worth exploring?>Increased mobility and stealth would obviously help healer to be quicker, more efficient and safer with their team support.>A medic should naturally have some knowledge about poisons and human body, two things that a sneaky, stabby fucker could abuse greatly.Flavor-wise I imagine character like Edwin from The Predators - a genuine psycho serial killer pretending to be weak, harmless and sympathetic doctor.
Out of curiosity, was there any RPG where your character starts as a local militia to explain why he's good with weapons?I'm trying to think of one, but any character I can think of is either some farmboy living in bumfuck nowhere or already an established soldier.
>>4010729By mercenary school I mean their Gardens, not the orphanage
>>4009425Breath of fire 2. After the prologue, Ryu and Bo are rangers/scouts that work for a local org doing odd jobs. Lufia.Maxim starts out as a soldier. whereas in the prequel Lufia 2, he starts out as a monster hunter, basically a scout.Suikoden II, Cloud in FF7...Pretty much every jrpg, really.
>>4010641His true background is also the reason why he very strong for Adell
>>4010915Most ff games with the exception of 3 ,5,10 and 2 kinda
>>4010889cry more.
>in order to hunt down the BBEG you have to go to a planet where evil megarcorporation researches almost extinct ancient mind controlling aliens, a planet where evil megarcorporation researches mind controlling alien, find a mind controlling alien expert on extinct ancient mind controlling aliens and then a planet where you learn that the true BBEG is in fact an ancient mind controlling alien who killed said extinct ancient mind controlling aliensHow the FUCK did they get away with this?
>>4007015>Greedy billionaires with 25+ millie annual salaries?>Screwing over us impoverished RPG fans locking story-elements behind paid DLC for 1% of 1 (social construct) shekel?>"WHOA ARE WE NOT MAKING ENOUGH MONEY TODAY BROS? MAYBE WE BEST EMPLOY MORE WAGE SLAVERY OR KILL THEM ALL DEAD PERHAPS?">"Good thinking. We'll kill them into submission!"Grow a pair newbie. MJ said it best. They DON'T CARE about us! EA is sick, despicable, insane and utterly inhumane! Given the chance those short-sights, the fucking freaks would exterminate 99.99% of all Planet Earth's animal & human populations in an instant without so much as a second thought or two for just only one additional extra penny in their bank accounts. Only after they foolishly increased their net worths by $0.01 would EA Millionaires dread their shot-sighted genocicdal dreadful actions like such a greentext:>"OH CRAP! NO NO NOOO NOT LIKE THIS BROS!! NONE OF THE SURVING LIFEFORMS EVEN KNOW WTF A PENNY IS EVEN WORTH ANYMORE!! HOW SHALL WE COPE, MILLIONAIRE BROS? HOW WILL WE LORD OUR EXTRA PENNY OVER THOSE REMAINING FUCKING INSECTS NOW? ">"SHIT IDK ANDREW! OMG OUR WEALTH MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ANYMORE!! WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO?? WHY CAN'T WE HIRE MOAR WAGE SLAVES TO INSTRUCT THE ANTS WE'RE STILL THEIR LITERAL GODS BECAUSE OF OUR EXTRA PENNY?????" >"WHY AREN'T THEY WORSHIPPING US ANYMORE GUYS?"Wake up and smell the coffee, it is little wonder why Saren Arterius and nearly every other alien in the Milky Way fucking hates Humanity but worships rare exceptions like the Commander
>>4007015>important story moments on DLCsI wouldn't care for DLC with unimportant stories
>>4010494Fair point, I meant it in a way that you feel like you're missing out on crucial info that contextualizes the story of the game or sets up plot points for the upcoming sequel. AFAIK, Bioware did it with at least thrice: Awakening, Trespasser and Arrival.
>>4010946I feel ya. No one likes spending money
>>4010946>Bioware did it with at least thrice: Awakening, Trespasser and Arrival.BioWare didn’t make Tresspasser, newfag. Dreamworks did.
Let's talk about Rune Factory!> Rune Factory Archive (comics, official artworks, fanarts)https://forestofbeginnings.tumblr.com/https://mizore.sakura.ne.jp/rff/dat/info.php?p=1> Official X accountsEN: https://x.com/RuneFactoryJP: https://x.com/RuneFactory_PR> Latest releaseRune Factory: Guardians of Azuma (2025)> UpcomingRune Factory 6 (TBD)Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>4010632I just pick what I like+the essentials. I like the fairies too (not just the elemental ones of course)
>>4010632Comfy...
>>4010632I always go for as much variety as I can get and then if I have any space left over I either double up on the best monster producers or I leave those spots for cool monsters.
>>4007756My wife
>>4010884Congrats anon!
I'm going to replay the BG games again soon with a custom party. I beat the EE with a custom party back when I first got it in jan 2015 (I played the original several times by then, relax), but I didnt take them to bg2. This time I will, it will be the first time I go through bg2 without npcs; I'm wondering how much that will change the experience. I really wish indie devs would give us more games like this that aren't fucking terrible. Anyway: infinity engine thread.
>>4010650What makes it great is stuff that's more BG2 concerns anyway. I mostly associate BG1 with archery being good
Having 6 characters close together hinders positioning imo. Map design needs to be different to encourage positioning. It's also not easy to set ambushes when you are the one invading castles and dungeons.
>>4010731Icewind Dale got me into the habit of sending a stealthed Thief forward to get vision on enemies before luring with a tanky character and piling on with the rest of my party. Doorways become useful positioning tools when you do that.
>>4010733Iwd kinda forces you to that, due to limited potions and sheer unending waves of enemies.
>>4010733Use your thief to spot for your mage to throw a fireball or grease/web first. The fighter then stands in the choke so your other party members can use spells and ranged damage.
>RPG Codex's top 100 RPGs of all timeholy shit this is embarrassing
kek, there you goMindbroken beyond belief.
Uh-oh, codexfag melty!If you post it another hundred times maybe people will think you fit in, kek
>>3958781rpgcodex generally hates jap games and wrpgs almost don't exist so this is what you get when you ask for 100basically every piece of jank trash included, only absolute stinkers with no redeeming factors were excluded here
>>3959111>>395971014 people played it, and those guys REALLY liked it. And so it is the best jrpg on the list.
>>3959111I don't agree that Sengoku Rance should be on the list of greatest JRPGs but it is objectively one of the best turn-based strategy games ever made, only behind Heroes 3 when it comes to fantasy themed ones specifically. The actual "JRPG"/dungeon crawler part of it (which is apparently the rest of the Rance series in a nutshell) is the worst part.
Any shmups with rpg elements aka you level up or upgrade somehow? Sounds like a fun mix. The void rains upon her heart is more of a roguelite than anything
>>4009413Tyrian 2K is still the best
>>4009413Touhou 18 - Unconnected Marketeers has the entire Roguelike card collector side to it, if this is what you mean.
>>4009413basically every shmup has upgrade systemswhat are you even talking about?
>>4010858I just wanted to share the cool game I found.
>>4010940Fair.Hope you have a nice day.
Zahua here is cracking dude weed lmao jokes and I'm giggling like a fifteen years old teen.
>>4010568>>4010569lmao, it really isn't very insulting when you can barely speak english, kiddo.
>>4010601It was perfectly legible to me. Have you ever read anything longer than a tweet? Or without pictures?
>>4010609what a bizarre attempt
>>4010568>frankly, I have not seen one such RPGYou haven’t played BG3, the critically acclaimed game of the year(tm)?
>>4010929If you hold ALT and press 0153 on the numpad, you can get ™.
Since a Romancing thread went awhile, how about a general discussion of the assorted SaGa games?The original gameboy series, known as Final Fantasy Legend in the west, the Romancing series on the SNES which the west didn't get until the mobile remasters and Minstrel Song remake, the Frontier series for the PlayStation... and the other stuff that has it's fans probably maybe.A hodgepodge of divergent and experimental jrpgs, from the usual Squaresoft fare and even from it's own series or within each series, made by the annoying contrarians and heretics within Square who got given shoestring budgets and left to make what they want.
>>3945497I have both SaGa frontier 1 and 2 and I had a blast with both of them. I intend to get Romancing SaGa 2D and the 3D remake at some point of the future.
>>4010467lil bro just isn't very smart if he's scared of muslims but wants to play these games, either that or he's trolling which is also likely given the broken english and low effort postanyone who cries about Formina but conveniently fails to mention Khalid, Sharrkan, both Fatimas,Aisha, Lawson or the many other muslim/middle eastern styled characters the series featured ever since 1991 is either acting in bad faith or is genuinely too stupid to realize they're playing the wrong games
>>4010488Who is in your pic, he looks cool
>>4010467the president whipping out dual wield pistols and doing random attacks in bonnie n formina's final boss is so based.
>>4010341It's part of the new paradigm for SaGa combat. The entire team has a pool of battle points to be divided among them rather than an individual resource pool that typical RPGs have. There is a time line for actions that reset every round, previous actions can have an influence on next rounds initiative on the time line. The biggest thing about SaGa Scarlet Grace is its usages of covering, interrupts, and counter attacks. You can build characters to be counter attack focused based on their weapon type, formations you use, and quirks you decode to have them take on (such as higher chances to draw enemy attacks). Not only that, but methods to break an enemies conditional state (conditional is covering, counter attacking, interrupt). What makes an interrupt what it is is that it triggers when a certain attack type is done by an enemy and you perform the action before they perform theirs. It doesn't negate an attack on its own unlike a counter attack which will parry an attack. Being able to prevent damage is important because initially you don't have many, if any, way to heal. Spells need casting time.
Because the thread on the first game was a success. Thoughts, questions, discussions, and arguments are all welcome.>blog below Finally gotten around to a second run and im finding myself enjoying the game more. Weaponcraft with Abella PC has been fun so far.
>>4005984horeee shit, is that a Joestar?
>>4005998Retard, that's obviously Boingo.
>>3988997That's Rance games. or at least the crappy old ones.
>>3989264>penis slicing anal rape game series on the blue boards.i wished FATAL /tg/ had a /vrpg/ but alas...
I really wish that there were more horror RPGs in general. We need more people to make games in this niche.
what did she mean by this pose?
>>4004198>I don't think you actually know anything about TouhouNo one really does desu
>>4000223What game do I play to not be a Warhammer secondary? I've played Space Marine Anniversary Edition
>>4005927The tabletop one.
>>4005927>>4010885Based samefag retard bumping his shitty thread off page 10
>>4010916How do you know I'm not also you, schizo anon?
Let's talk about party-based dungeon crawlers! >What are you playing right now?>Any release you are looking forward to?>Do you prefer a fully custom party, or pre-made adventurers?In my case I have been playing Bard's Tale Trilogy, which is pretty simply but also quite fun. Been looking forward to Mystic Land which seems cool and perhaps a slightly less austic version of Grimoire.
>>4007339>combat consists of two fighters trading blows while the bugman and woman throw rocks since half my party can't even do anything without weapons or esoteric knowledge of arcane runesI have no idea what I'm doing. Everyone except Murlok the human fighter is useless, but the music is very good and the dungeon looks pretty. >>4008362I thought they were RTS games honestly.
>>4008443Could be worseCould be that one guy that picked 4 minotaurs in grim2 and complained about starving to death constantly
>>4008443>GrimrockI played that game twice. Both times, my party was>one frontline fighter who uses melee weapons>one frontline fighter who specializes in shields>one backrow mage who uses damage-dealing spells>one backrow rogue who uses bowsYou have to remember to gather the arrows from enemies' corpses after you defeat them,. They're not in an endless supply, but do remain in the enemies' square after being used.I still have to play Grimrock 2.
anyone try this out?
>>4010285>early accessno