>no RTWP>tone and vibe is completely different >gay>doesn't even play like a Baldur's Gate game
>>3897230>My favorite trash fight is in ToB when you fight a screen full of 100 soldiers or whatever. That one's actually fun. Imo, ToB feels best solo. It's also really only worth playing once.You mean in Throne of Bhaal? I don't remember this but it's been years since I touched BG2. I remember the expansion having some serious bullshit going on with its balancing, like trash mobs with magic weapons in a setting where a +2 weapon meant you were among the dig bicks.
>>3897149You're probably playing it like an RTS game and spamming pause. Ideally, hitting pause in RTWP is when things have (or are about to) go completely south, you're expected to select AI scripts to let your party members act autonomously, and use autopause for certain things (taking a hit at minimum).The big issue is that 2e wasn't turn-based in a traditional way, the turn order was far more dynamic and the concept of abilities delaying your next turn wasn't a common idea in games at the time. Final Fantasy X used it but the removal of the series' signature ATB system was highly controversial at the time.
>>3897238>You mean in Throne of Bhaal?Yup.>I remember the expansion having some serious bullshit going on with its balancing, like trash mobs with magic weapons in a setting where a +2 weapon meant you were among the dig bicks.Yup.
>>3894771>>tone and vibe is completely differentLarian, for some reason, think they're the second coming of Terry Ratshit (who isn't very funny to begin with unless you're like 12.)
>>3897238>You mean in Throne of Bhaal?Yes, usually that's what people mean by ToB.
Shiren the Wanderer celebrated its 30th anniversary a few days ago, so lets have a Mystery Dungeon thread. Which Shiren game is your favorite, and what would you want to see in Shiren 7?And when the fuck is Shiren Asuka's translation patch getting finished?
>>3891035The warehouse isn't really required in Shiren SNES, it's mostly just there to help you if you have trouble beating the game.There are some party members you can unlock which help a lot if you're struggling to beat the game, though I only beat the DS version so I don't know how good they are in SNES.
>>3891047that's good then, id say im decent at roguelikes so if its not challenge run tier without warehouses then i can probably push my way through. a monster just leveled up and kicked my ass, also the mountain pass is much more connected than forest or stream levels which is nice.
I do remember some anon saying SNES Shiren runs can be pretty heavily RNG dependent because of how the game will seed enemy spawns, there's some fortune-telling thing you can check to get a hint on how bad a run will rape you but I forget how it works exactly.
Are the gameboy games worth playing?
>>3887438Ah Shiren 2, I have fond memories of that one('s later parts). The final post game dungeon was probably the hardest Shiren related thing I beat. The OP Scout and Wall clip bracelets are the MVPs. No wonder every speedrunner guns for those items.
Playing the 3DS version, selected the mode which puts the extra content at the end. Did I fuck up? Getting something closer to the OG experience seemed like the better idea, but I’ve heard a few times now that the extra content is supplemental to the base game and meant to be played alongside it.inb4 I already fucked up by playing the 3DS version.
>>3892465What is the deal with Japan and toddlers??? Seriously.
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>>3896100Aht is so cute shame she's completely useless in the final battle because there's nowhere to put traps
>>3892411Had to make that into a wallpaper.
What are some games where I can be a murderous lunatic?
Why aren’t there more IFs inspired by ASOIAF, The Witcher, or Star Wars?
>>3897156cause those IPs are boring
>>3897156A Star Wars ripoff would be awesome if it was KoToR styled
>>3896795Slammed.You get special enmity from Prototype
>>3897156I have only ever read the first chapter of Asoiaf
Baten Kaitos
>>3895402Yeah lots of cool names in this gameI enjoy them very much
>>3895673deadly heat scythe and hellblood's hammer have disproportionately uncool animations for how cool their names are
>>3896952I still think of the shmup section when you enter the world all these years later because it took me a few tries. And that mirror dungeon was cool.
>>3896970You reminded me of that 8 bit section I cant find any videos on it though my memory is getting too hazy
Who is your Final Fantasy waifu?
>>3896654Criminally underappreciated
>>3896615Tifa's not actually a whore. Implausible but true.
>>3897171>female bartender>not a whoreCome on man.
>>3897209Funny how supposed whores still won't fuck (you)
>>3897215>whore defense force
I loved FF7 and FF8, but Kefka, unlike temper tantrum Sephiroth, was the equivalent of Batman's Joker becoming a God, sadistic freak who can make almost anything he wishes happen to the whole planet at will, could make a terrasque piss himself on the spot, and could burn whole cities with a laser called the light of judgement.
>>3895968The entire amnesia cliché is so exhausted, and it was already tired when anime rode that shit into the ground throughout the '80s and '90s. Like heterochromic eyes. Blonde guy with a sword.7 was absolute peak of the anime cringe tropes of the era and still remains the premier textbook example of trashy clichés and everything embarrassing and shitty about anime as a stylization.
>>3896303>being too insecure to enjoy anime cringekino
He and sephiroth share similar dispositions. They are both soldiers created for war. In fact, this is parallel to Terra who is a child soldier.
>>3895910>t. never played Final Fantasy
>>3895535>>3895530Okay but can we all appreciate and love Exdeath for his magical splinter act?
How do we feel about Toontown???I enjoy Toontown Corporate Clash much better than Toontown rewritten. A lot less soundless drama, and generally a lot less people with a big ol stick up their asses.
Are american christcucks still mad that they're mutilated by birth via jewish rituals and branded as goyim?
>>3893976Yes, I am mad. Fortunately, I ensured that all of my sons are intact. Ban child genital mutilation.
I don't owe you shit
Dead MMOs that you will never play again
>>3897169Yup, had a fun asymmetrical balance. Germany had more accurate guns with longer range, lending to a sniper playstyle, while USSR had high alpha strike inaccurate guns, lending to a close in and brawl playstyle. Everything was relatively realistic and grounded and the silly “on paper only” shit wasn’t yet added. 1.0 added the Americans whose gimmick was having tanks with huge gun depression and huge turret armor to go hull down behind a hill and be invincible.Then all the unrealistic fantasy shit, and the microtransactions for OP ammo, made it all pointless.
>>3897173>1.0 added the AmericansACTUALLY Americans were in closed beta, well before 1.0t. closed beta male
>>3897180Yeah, you’re right. My mistake. There was the jumbo Sherman or whatever it was, premium tank that you got as a beta tester reward once 1.0 came out. I still think the game had better balance before ze Amerikanners.This was like 15 years ago and I was drinking a lot while playing much like my posting
There has never been a bigger browser MMO.
>>3897212Fuck, I haven't thought about that since like 1999 or whatever. "Bruce" was a middle school meme for us, before there were memes.
I just got Starfang, should I keep Yusaris for dragons or is Starfang still an upgrade against dragons despite Yusaris' damage bonus vs them?My character is a Human Warrior built for two-handers.
I figured I'd ask here since this is a DAO thread.I was playing the steam Ultimate version, it's been running fine after doing the 4gb address upgrade, FINALLY after all these years got a second monitor, game now crashes on startup. Fucked with ini files, disabled second monitor, launch not in fullscreen, launch as administrator, even bought the gog version on sale, nothing makes the game not crash on startup. Does this game just schizo out if you so much as have a 2nd monitor plugged in? Keep in mind way fucking older games like HoMM3, made long before 2 monitors were the norm, work fucking fine with 2 monitors, it just mouse locks you to the one the game is playing in.
>>3897026Oh and I also tried just straight up unplugging the second monitor. The only thing I haven't tried is unplugging my new primary monitor.
>>3895262You'd want some STR to wear armor, otherwise any autohit will fuck you up. Other than that, you'll want to reach 100+ defence as soon as possible - I think something like 130+ is a good lategame number. Maybe more, but you'll be able to bump it higher with buffs when something is suddenly able to hit you.
>>3897026Are you using Qwinn's Ultimate DAO Fixpack on top of the 4gb patch? Mine needed both to not crash on loading
>>3897111Yes
Ghost Path 2’s English translation beta came out.Thirst’s translation is still on the way.Hollowwald’s development is in progress.
>>3897165Never post this again
>>3897165You better post this again
So I finally got around to playing Thirst in JP. Is it just me or do the gear upgrades feel very far in between? I'm about to have the showdown with the former shougun and I still have the same weapon on Nazuna as when I put the lid down on the Orochi expy.
>>3897181Spoilers, anon. I'd delete that pic if I were you. But yes, you're at the endgame of the main story so you don't have a whole lot of new gear yet. There is a nice progression of gear in the postgame though.
I posted my attempt to make an attribute system in previous thread and wanted some input.>The attributes are grouped into 3 w/ the last one to be unlocked. For example in character creation, the body & mind attributes start at 5. Let's just say that both get a shared pool of 7 points that can be distributed on either sides. However, lowering one of the body attributes below 5 only gives points that can be used on other body attributes. Mystic attributes are supposed to be special as they all start at 0 before the mid to late game.>The idea originally was each pair would translate to weird quirks if there is a big gap between the two stats. Although I wonder if it is a even good idea mechanically but I like the flavor.>STR w/o DEX = Klutz>DEX w/o STR = weak grip>END w/o AGI = stiff>AGI w/o END = injury prone>PER w/o CMP = sensory overload>CMP w/o PER = head on the clouds>INT w/o WIS = midwit>WIS w/o INT = schizo (sees patterns where they don't exist)>WILL w/o CHA = autist>CHA w/o WILL = asskisser/normie
>>3896937I think it's a pretty decent framework but if it works, it depends on how it's applied in-game. Too much or too little XP and it crumbles down. Too many interactions or not enough and it's unbalanced. You said you want to have separate pools for each of these groups. I think you should copy how it was done in Fable: The Lost Chapters and add universal points that can be used for any of these three (or two basic) sets of attributes.And this anon pointed >>3896947 Soul filts better than Mystic.
>>3896937 These are just generic RPG stats with a collection of skills. I suppose it gives some archetypes for roleplaying, but mechanically this isn't anything.
>>3896962I think its fine if it's a classless system. Making the player pick their mind and body stats separately could be great although it restricts player choice. I guess I haven't played a lot of games like this so I wonder why making a pure fight oriented build would leave you with less of the other parts of an rpg. Like if I'm following a dumb character will not have any intelligence based options to choose during a dialog but wouldn't giving him several different stupid options with different outcomes work as well? But that would lead to more options per dialogue. So I would say your take is a smart way of reducing scope by making the player build for all aspects of the game.
>>3896937What do your mystic stats do? You may be better off reworking them into advanced classes as their names seem to be leaning towards.
>>3896937Don't like knowledge of any kind as a core attribute.That's something obtained.
After being told it's greatest game over and over again I finally decided to give it a shot. To my surprise not only it wasn't any good, it was downright bad>No options to roleplay. All quests are linear and all "choices" are entirely superficial. (For example trying to help cowled wizards and killing devs snowflake NPC results in instant fail and that's the ONLY choice I had after 3 hours of playing)>Game assumes that I care about their NPCs and focuses it's story around them rather than player character. Attempts to kill or dismiss imoen results in GM telling you NO YOU CANT DO THAT! THAT WOULD INTERRUPT MY PLANNED CUTSCENE. This makes the story fall flat for me because I have no reason to care for her since I've known her for two seconds (I don't care what's the lore if the game itself didn't make the effort to develop connection and just wrote "she's ur sister you must love" in her backstory. I also didn't like the fact that villain is being presented as le heckin hyper smart chessmaster who's playing everyone like a fiddle considering that he's actually pretty dumb but the game forces you to fail to advance the plot.>90% of the game is dungeon crawler combatslop which grows pretty stale really quicklyI might be biased since I played Troika games before playing bg2 and the differences are night and day. It's like hopping on Fallout 4 after playing new vegas. It's very sad that Bioware's design philosophy prevailed over Troikas because it's much easier to produce combatslop than design engaging quests and story that allows you to roleplay and affect the world in a meaningful way.
>>3896448Correct. BG1 is better because for most of the game you're free to explore and do whatever you like. BG2 feels too much like a theme park.
I liked it, which means your taste is shit.
>>3896773I don't mind straightforward stories if they're presented as such. What makes it different and what made me annoyed is that it's been marketed as a roleplaying game with many choices, same thing happened with BG3 and their 17 000 endings. I believe there are better ways to make RPGs and the adoption of bioware doctrine had a disastrous effect on the evolution of RPG genre
>>3896922>BG1 is better because for most of the game you're free to explore and do whatever you like.Plus the way the main story is paced, how the two plots intertwin and how the main villiain is written are far superior.
>>3897132>mfw Koveras was really Sarevok but backwards. Fml
I really enjoyed the first one. Of course /pol/ seems to tear it a new asshole, but the critics rated it high. Did you enjoy it? Does it live up to its predecessor?
>>3896959Gothic 2 is fantastic. Archolos is a fantastic conversion mod.Simple
>>3896960So do I first play Gothic 2, and then download/overhaul the game with the Archolos mod? Or should I just play the game with the Archolos mod straight up? ty.
>>3889793good writeup
>>3896965If you have not played gothic, play 1 and 2.The only real point of contention is the expansion fof 2 (some think makes the whole game a bit worse overall).Then, Archolos.
I was really enjoying the first one until I ran into a bug that forced me to restart the game after not having saved for 2 or 3 hours and lost all motivation to continue. Ive really wanted to check out the second one too but losing that progress really killed my motivation to try again.Im not even fundamentally against limited saves but if you do that you really really gotta make sure your game is as bug free as possible
Should I buy this when I loved Kingmaker but didn't like WotR?
>>3896659>Maybe the pol guys are right wtfAnevia is actually a tranny, and the orc paladin sold her fucking sword to buy tranny magic surgery for her lover but you have to dig unusually deep into late-game dialogue trees, or be familiar with the tabletop module, to know that detail.
>>3896567I enjoyed WotR and I romanced Wendu.
>>3896662the heroic champion of the city is a>female>half orc>lesbian>with a MTF tranny romanceseveral companions are faggots. one of the cool parts of these games is supposed to be rolling around with cool characters doing cool shit and adventures but like all of them are dirty faggots that hit on you and do weird queer shit like talk about their feelings for youthanks fags. go to helllet god burn them quickly
>>3896659Yeah the setting is fucking gay, just like in most paizo shit.Owlcat did what they could with it, but some parts are still what they are, intentionally written by paizos feminist radicals to ”own the chuds”. Yes it was, the author bragged about it openly online.
>>3897039>heroic champion of the city>city falls under her watch, get kidnabbed and tortued, has a mental breakdown if you do not interveneUnflappable
