>item is required to progress>it's a random drop after the battle>is incredibly rare and found on a single floor
>>3895659This shit is what made playing Daggerfall insufferable>>3895660Daggerfall
>>3902074A lot of games are designed with quest markers, so much so that they won't even give a hint of where you're meant to go.There are quests like "place these traps around the forest", and it's not a case of putting them in good locations but rather the exact specific locations the quest writer decided.Or, in one game, the quest giver says the person should be at the beach but actually they were in the forest in the middle of the map. There is no way you would have ever found that person on purpose without the marker.It's not lazy players, it's lazy devs.
>>3895660Persona 5 makes getting the item to prevent instant death RNG, found in dungeon chests. Annoying.
>>3907802>There are quests like "place these traps around the forest", and it's not a case of putting them in good locations but rather the exact specific locations the quest writer decided.God damn it, I hate this bullshit. JRPGs pull this crap all the time where you have to just wander around an area until you stumble into the random spot that triggers a cutscene, and the worst is the kind you described with multiple places you have to hit. Even worse if it's in a specific order, and if you find them out of order you still have to visit it again later.I like the game Sigma Star Saga, but it does this type of thing more than once if I remember right, and it was always where I would get stuck or burned out if I didn't finish a playthrough.
>>3904329being fair to Aria, the three enemies which drop the relevant souls necessary for story progression have an increased chance of dropping them relative to most souls
I heard this was a fantastic entry to start this series on, but is it worth stomaching the shitty AI upscaling for the new content in the remaster or should I just emulate the original? Anyway, I suppose this can also serve as a general purpose Romancing SaGa thread.
>>3900982MS is one of my favorite games of the franchise, but if you want a beginner-friendly Saga game, it’s RS2 RotS that you want.
>>3901034>Will tell you to play SaGa 1 on the GBDo not listen to this man, play the WSC version of SaGa 1. It offers a massive QoL improvement that actually makes monsters far more viable since you can SEE what they turn into when eating meat.
>>3900982Emulating the original original or the PS2 version? In any case do whatever you want.
>>3900982I first heard about Romancing SaGa from a Hyadain song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFOw90kjf1E and after listening to the song on repeat a hundred times I bought the Minstrel Song remaster but I was disappointed because the art wasn't like in the video. I mean to play it but every time I look at it I feel a bit turned off by the art style which I think means I just need to play the original.
>>3908022I'm probably one of the few people who prefer the newer, more 2000s character designs made for Minstrel Song.
ITT you have to take the opposite side of what you believe about an RPG/RPG series.For example, if you think a game is shit, you have to do your best to unironically argue why it's good.I'll start: Tetsuya Nomura is actually a good storyteller. He writes more for character development and interaction, and less for world-building, but he does a good job of that. KH sucks only because of Disney's involvement. The characters themselves are wonderfully written and have compelling relationships.
>>3907114>number of 70s RPGs anon named off the top of his head: ZERO
>>3907116You think they don't exist?
>>3907137I don’t think he knows of any.
White Knight Chronicles has one of the greatest soundtracks of all time and some very beautiful environments
>>3905747>Name three 1970s RPGs off the top of your head without looking them up.Pedit5, Beneath Apple Manor, Akalabeth.
>everybody is insane : the gamepoor gameplay aside, this game is fantastic as far as characters and locations go, its arguably Bethesdas best work when it comes to world building. its the only Elder Scrolls game where I wanted to talk to every NPC simply because you didnt know what to expect
Alright so I've done a satisfyingly complete skyrim playthrough and a morrowind one and I'll move on to Oblivion now having played it only once before, and in a rush.Are there any builds that are particularly fun? I'm thinking either a sword and board boring one or a conjuration edgelord, but I feel like the first is exceptionally boring and the latter is not really in accordance with the tone of the game
>>3907827Just mage
>>3907827Rogue build is where it's at. Sneak with Light Armour will serve you well.Be an outdoorsman with a specialty in Alchemy. It's an interesting skill that adds a whole new dimension to the game, and becomes really powerful as you improve.Ignore this puff: >>3907858 Mages are just power fantasies for bullied schoolchildren.
>>3907866hey thanks>Alchemyis it semi-mandatory like smithing in skyrim? I enjoyed making str potions in morrowind to one shot everything because ingredients were easy to come by, but I generally hate crafting in video games. I guess semi-mandatory stuff like sujamma and smithing is what I'm asking about
>>3907883Alchemy isn't mandatory at all. But it lures you into diverting sub-quests to find the ingredients you need. You get to know the various fauna and flora of Cyrodiil, and where they can be found. It's a great incentive to explore the map, and get into a whole lot of trouble along the way.
Truly, the greatest video game of all time. No other RPG even comes close to the glory of her character creation, her class system, her birthsigns and races. No other RPG allows the player to bend the very nature of artifacts to their story. You decide how powerful that sword is by getting it when you do. The game even contains territorial battles between goblin tribes. Let the copers kvetch in their hovels, let the scornful seethe at her beauty. For the wise, Oblivion herself is enough.
>>3899043How come it hasn't started yet? where's the tutorial
>>3906590Enderal got to reuse tons of Skyrim assets as is because it's taking place in its own universe, way more than Skywind or Skyblivion can with their recreation of Tamriel provinces that are very much not the home of the Nords. But yes, kraut engineering is a marvel to behold.
>>3906743C O P E
>>3906786Do you expect them to use Quake-style pallettes in current year?
>>3906708>Do you not understand what "jeetcode" implies? No shit it's the graphicsLearn to read, fuckwit.
After being told it's greatest game over and over again I finally decided to give it a shot. To my surprise not only it wasn't any good, it was downright bad>No options to roleplay. All quests are linear and all "choices" are entirely superficial. (For example trying to help cowled wizards and killing devs snowflake NPC results in instant fail and that's the ONLY choice I had after 3 hours of playing)>Game assumes that I care about their NPCs and focuses it's story around them rather than player character. Attempts to kill or dismiss imoen results in GM telling you NO YOU CANT DO THAT! THAT WOULD INTERRUPT MY PLANNED CUTSCENE. This makes the story fall flat for me because I have no reason to care for her since I've known her for two seconds (I don't care what's the lore if the game itself didn't make the effort to develop connection and just wrote "she's ur sister you must love" in her backstory. I also didn't like the fact that villain is being presented as le heckin hyper smart chessmaster who's playing everyone like a fiddle considering that he's actually pretty dumb but the game forces you to fail to advance the plot.>90% of the game is dungeon crawler combatslop which grows pretty stale really quicklyI might be biased since I played Troika games before playing bg2 and the differences are night and day. It's like hopping on Fallout 4 after playing new vegas. It's very sad that Bioware's design philosophy prevailed over Troikas because it's much easier to produce combatslop than design engaging quests and story that allows you to roleplay and affect the world in a meaningful way.
>>3896448>I don't care what's the lore if the game itself didn't make the effort to develop connection and just wrote "she's ur sister you must love" in her backstoryYou know the game is a direct sequel to the first game, right?
>>3907627Imoen is also only established as your sister in bg2, bg1 barely has characters. The most memorables lines you have in the game is quayle's stupid death sound jaheira's authority figure and xzar's I am death destroyer of worlds that plays 500 times.
>>3907627>going in circlesthank u but no thank ujust search the word "sequel" and read the replies to that post
>>3907550>you are there to fight.Then it's a fighting game, not a role playing game. If it was marketed as such I would not have complaints but that's not the case >>3907627I'm saying there are better ways to make a sequel that enhance roleplaying instead of throwing it into the trash. Also I'm pretty sure she can fucking die in BG1 or I can make a character who hates her which throws the entire plot off the rails. Saying "it's a sequel" doesn't fix those flaws because biowares wrote a plot not for the rpg but for the movie where everything is predetermined and player has no agency
>>3896775I liked BG2 but the RTPW got a little overwhelming with how many enemies you had to fight, especially magic casters. It was bit slow.
KOTOR sisters...
>>3907483You think it's scripting? My first suspect for retarded file sizes is usually sounds or redundant high resolution shit. Not that I'm going to bother finding out in this case because fuck that
>>3903886has anyone played this or is anyone willing to play this and let us know how it is?
>>3906448>>3907233>guy in a tavern straight up tells you he's shaking up locals and has been for the past few months to settle his gambling debtWhat will your character do? Will he/she:a) do exactly what he tells you and help him steal some innocent elf's life savingsb) just ignore itthose are your only choiceshere's your RPG bro
>>3907586I'm planning to play it once the lightsaber update drops this month. The update will supposedly come with a Jedi quest line or something similar as well, and the guy in charge of the modpack is even recommending people wait for that release to play for now. I'll find one of the threads about it or start one with my thoughts afterwards.
>>3907659Stop trying to play a Bethesda game like an Obsidian game.
Has anyone here played TOW2 and enjoyed it?How much better is it than the first one?
>>3903852>They (smartly) aren't putting all their eggs in one basket and putting too much budget into one game.It's smart from a business perspective, very unfortunate for gamers as it produces unenthusiastic unremarkable slop. Maybe Obsidian should try the mobile game market next, I hear there's more profit there and the workers need to eat.
I'm sure the people on the baseball cards are members of the dev team. Neat Easter egg
This first planet is really fucking rough. I find most of the character so far as just annoying and uninteresting.
>>3907616It doesn't get any better. There are 3 decent characters in the entire game. I'm only playing for the guns at this point
I think ow2 is mechanically a step down from ow1. Of the 3, id say avowed is obsidians best release in this style.
Are we doomed to never get proper card RPGs again? Only endless deckbuilders and autobattlers?
>>3899620oh also BattleForge (Skylords Reborn)
>>3903730>Skylords RebornI hate how grindy the faggots made it.Copied the worst element from the original.
>>3900304How are they like Rogue again?
>>3899404BUMP
>>3900304Cardaire is a single-player TCG. I wish there were more recent games within the subgenre.
>Caesar's Legion in NV game>rape women for any reason or even without one>Caesar's Legion in Amazon (misandrist female warrior) show>MC woman can't STFU and Legion does nothing>they're now the Cuck's LegionSo Chuds were right, Amazon literally cucked the most realistic faction of the "War never changes" setting.Basically Bellona (Roman war goddess) has defeated Father Mars.
>>3907110lol cool
I hope Bethesda manages to combine Fallout TES and Starfield into the same universe.
>>3907229Why?
>>3907110yeah its ruined. i bet you the next game will take place in a city not effected by the show characters yet, but its still just going to be the BOS vs the bad guys, except now all the paladins and knights will have dumb roman names and they'll all be idiots. wouldn't be surprised if they pushed the MC as female in all their advertisements too.
The tone of the show episode 1 can tell they were going for more joke fallout 3-4. More for kidderinos reddit crowd then adult themes
>With these changing times, we do feel the need to update our format and create games that would be more widely playable, not just within the JRPG realm, but something that would be easier, more accessible for a wider audience. We're hoping to update our format with that in mind.This almost reads like a parody.
>>3907319>Persona has a steep, or rather, abrupt, learning curve. It's a hardcore gameNo no, that's just you being mentally deficient. Easy mistake to make when you're slow like you. But run along, everyone wizened up to you being retarded, so you won't get more (you).
>>3904775>harder than FF9Good bait, spics that has been obsessed with Persona 4-5 will seethe at implying their beloved FF9 is easy
>>3907527FF9 would fuck you up, but it was usually pretty fair about it in the sense you learned the bosses gimmick and then defended against it next time. You had defensive builds and offensive builds. There wasn't any 1 move that just end the run, that wasn't fairly easily dealt with. Ozma might be the only boss where some luck might be needed. I'm not sure if there's a perfect way to fight him.>>3907508>No no, that's just you being mentally deficient.Well I mean, so which is it retard, do I need to "learn to play" the game or is the game easy and I'm just stupid. You can't remain consistent across two fucking posts you retard lmfao.
persona more like fursona
>>3907567Persona 6 will have the party members transform into their fursonas when entering the dungeons.source: came to me in a dream
The last decade I have been seeing a weird thing among some videogame geeks.They spend every day seething part of the playerbase prefering arpg than turn based and shilling every turn based franchise(same happen with rtwp fans before retards go for a crpg vs jrpg).But when the topic is another genre they act like the arpg fags > They want every action game to be like DMC> They want every TPS to be like Resident Evil 4> They want every FPS to be like COD or Doom> They want every 2D Platform to be a Metroidvania> The want every 3D platform to be like a Mario
>>3907525You're compressing down people who have nothing to do with each other into a single group to make it easier to cognitively process.Go outside.
>>3907532Is "outside" the place where your mom finds men to run a train on her?
What is your favorite quest in any RPG?
Code 31! Code 31! Officer in need of assistance... ON THE DANCE FLOOR
>>3904965i don't dick around i fuck Moria Brown
>>3904965All four of the crime family quest lines in New Reno in Fallout 2 are great.>>3905206I thought the Legion version of this mission where you assassinate him is even better. It’s basically a Hitman level inside a Fallout game.
>>3907442> It’s basically a Hitman level inside a Fallout game.Oh man, I want to try it out now.Note to self: do a chainsaw build with Logan's Loop on max difficuilty.
>>3904965Oblivion has the best quests, and it's impressive considering there are so many of them. Often even the ones that are simple dungeon crawls have some unique thing going for them. Like getting ambushed by a rival treasure hunter and you either hand the treasure over, fight, or flee. Furthermore you can convince one of them to defect, and if one of them survives he returns in a later quest.Many other examples.Another favorite that comes to mind is Baldur's Gate 2, where you go to a village to investigate the problem they have. There's a lot going on, and you end up in an ancient temple. If you go there later when you need a cure for vampirism, there's even more to the quest.
Is it any good?
>>3901947About to go into Act 3 and loving it. The most annoying thing is carry weight limit and I wish more games would follow Gothic and just remove it. There is something very special about Fall of Avalon and it's kept me coming back since the EA.
>>3901947Hell No!
>>3901980Avowed has a quest that mocks you if you don't give a woman abortion drugs. Tainted Grail has the same quest but you convince her to keep the baby.
>>3906327Wholesome.
needs cbbe before i consider touching it thoughever
I don't mind the themes in both of these games. I just wanna know which one is more fun (eventually I want to play both)
>>3897636>Why anybody likes either I don't understand at all. They're crap games.it's has unique gameplay mechanics that distinguish it from traditional RPGs. people want something new people tired with traditional RPG gameplay
>>3905441>Is Game of Thrones porn?Kind of, yes. More than the other four.
>>3905441F&H2 has next to no porn and F&H1 has very bad porn, namely small sprites fucking. If someone actually jerks off to it, then I'd be surprised.On the other hand the rest of the games are genuine coomer slop games filled with H-scenes and extensive amount of writing describing the act.
>>3886474I like how the MC has to tell one of the girls that his dick is bigger than a Vienna sausage during their lunch date. Peak tiny penisu moment.
>>3886228BS1Bs1 is a porn grind game. F&H is a dark puzzle game.>>3886241if you come into it expecting a normal rpg, yes. It is an rpg but it's also a survival puzzle game.>>3887924tbdesu the last dlc of the second game is a pretty far for the combat to start being involved. It does get a bit involved before but not as much. Especially for BS1, it's mostly be stomped or stomp by grinding. You CAN lv1 but that's generally not how people play.
