What is /vrpg/'s thoughts on Metaphor ReFantazio?
>>3668342gallica sexo.
>>3668343ok pedophile
sounds like it's more personashit but I want to fuck the fairy
>>3668364go away pedophile
>>3668342Worse than every other game it’s trying to rip from, though it’s being shilled out the ass. In that way, it might be the BG3 of jrpgs but even in that comparison it’s much worse than BG3.Not worth your money or your time.
>>3668342I like the Persona and SMT games more, but it wasn't bad at all. Awful lot of grinding though, which I normally don't hate, but in Metaphor it was pretty egregious. At least they made it easy.I had no desire to do New Game+, but I don't regret the time I spent playing it.Also, I want to fuck Gallica.
>>3668383>Also, I want to fuck Gallica.go to prison
>can't fuck the fairymy disappointment is immeasurable
>>3668396GO. TO. PRISON. DIE DIE DIE.
>can't rip the fairy apart with your cockshit game
>no fairywife romance optionatlusbros???
>>3668342>seventy>dollar>video>gamenot buying on principle.i'll grab RE FANTAZIO METAPHOR THE MAXIMULTIMATION $PLATINUM$ 20 years from now when it's on sale for two dollars.
>>3668342I quite liked it until I softlocked myself like a retard between phases in the final fight. don't feel like replaying the trial of the dragon for eight hours so I'll probably just cave and watch the ending. soured the experience a bit for me but I quite enjoyed it up until that point.
>>3668438based.https://youtu.be/wiMyCzezfTg?si=--N1DPVDxKz89pgL
>>3668445dont get it twisted i'm down to buy a game from sixty bucks if i really want it. but devs jacking up the price "because we just want to okay?! if we all do it, you can't say no or push back!" isn't something i'm gonna put up with when the quality isn't going up alongside the price
>>3668342Best way to sum it up is>familiar, but differentIt takes a lot of good parts from other games they'ev made like SMT, Raidou, Persona, etc. and then does a lot of new things on top, plus improves upon things based on learnings from other games.So if you like the other games the company makes you will like it.Also, ignore hipster shitposters like >>3668375 that just uses buzzwords, doesn't articulate what is so terrible about it and doesn't like it because it's popular and other people like it.
>>3668438This. It's a good game I know because I pirated it, but I'm never paying $70 for a video game.
>>3668582So you don’t buy any modern games?
>>3668630Metaphor is already on sale for $52
>>3668342Is metaphor the last remnant of its generation?
>>3668630I usually pirate first and then buy them on sale if they're good enough.
>>3668662Nah, it's not nearlyu autistic enough for that.
>>3668671I'm convinced you're too brainwashed by American politics to even have independent thoughts anymore.
>>3668683Even worse. The politics are completely sincere and fags are really just that mentally ill.
>>3668342For what its worth the human designs are legit great.
>>3669114it's not worth much. Also - 2 of the most important ones are literally just the Persona 3 and 4 protagonists again.
>>3668671>burger hands typed this
>>3669175>only Americans can recognize realityInteresting take
>>3669245Burgers are obsessed with wokeness and left/right politics, while also being extremists and thinking it's some global """reality""". Might be hard for a burger to understand but that isn't exactly how it's like spain, norway, south america, china or whatever.
>>3668342Pretty disappointed to be honest. It tries to be Persona, but fails since it has a very weak cast and there are only a couple of real dungeons in this whole mess.
>>3668671I'm convinced you derailed the thread.
>>3669396>weak castIt has a better cast than all Persona games in terms of writing. You could argue that Persona 4 has a more likeable cast since they're supposed to be buddies, but that's it.
>>3669405Not even close. They lack interactions between each other and growth. It's not even a debate.
>>3668342I leaned my lesson after this one. Last Atlus game I'm going to play.
>>3669419>Not even close. They lack interactions between each other and growth. It's not even a debate.Is this a joke? No, I'm serious. Did you shut your brain off when playing or do you only notice surface level banging them over your head stuff?Do you unironically believe Strohl is worse written, has less growth and depth than Ryuji?Do you think Yukiko is better written, has more growth and depth than Eupha?Do you think Mitsuru is better written, has more growth and depth than Heismay?Do you think Sanada is better written, has more growth and depth than Basilio?
>>3669437Yes to all. Buy a brain retard so you can start thinking critically.
>>3669474So yes you were indeed joking. Bad joke, but thanks for confirming.But if you're braindead enough to believe it, come back with actual elaborations and arguments if you don't want to disregarded as mentally handicapped. Because I'm not your tard wrangler and I only engage in discussion human beings, not monkeys.
>>3668438obviously. these type of game you pirate always.
>>3669489Stop acting like a babbling retard if you want to be taken seriously. I have better things to do than argue with a manchild who won't think everyone with a different opinion must be le epic troll. Your little mind isn't going to change anyway.
The gameplay was fun until the royal archetypes unlocked and forced you to farm for them. the characters were more on the bland side (only liked Gallica and Hiesmay) and the story was meh. i had fun but the gameplay started falling off after you kill Rela.
Why don't turn based rpgs adopt the souls formula? #1 SUBTLE LORE > INANE DIALOGUE DUMPS#2 HARD GAME GOOD!!!#3 BERSERK EURO GOTH > JPOP FEMBOY AESTHETICS#4 RESPECT PLAYERS AND THEIR TIME #5 MILFS > LOLISsimple as!
>>3669562Lose the hags or no deal.
>>3668342Ronde is better
>>3669571dark souls hags with giant boobs can't be beat
>>3669562Nocturne is right around the corner anon.
>>3669672>dark souls hags with giant boobs can't be beatPics or it didn't happen
Really not a fan of the earlier Atlus games because there's too much story and dialogue, and i dont care about the storybook format, I want control at all times. need a high quality lengthy JRPG to play though, should I give this a shot
>>3669529You can't even defend your own ideas with arguments and sound reasoning. You're a close-minded toddler that lashes out when people tell you you're wrong and should back your shit up.If you can't even engage in basic discussion, don't even post. Someone might mistake you for a rational adult and not the manchild you are.
>>3669757No, it's just as bloated as Persona 5. You can go hours without any gameplay.Try Etrian Odyssey III HD if you want a gameplay heavy Atlus game.
>>3669757>I want control at all timesThen no
>>3669819Why would you recommend that shitty remaster?
>>3669819>No, it's just as bloated as Persona 5. You can go hours without any gameplay.Not true. Story sections are saved for after a dungeon clear and before going to a new region or similar.Outside of that you have about a month each time focused on gameplay or whatever you like. You can even do things like different dungeon runs (outside main one) and bounty hunts back to back.
>>3668342It was not what they promised so I ignored it, looks quite lame all around.
I wont play it until it goes on sale for like $10 in 10 years or something idk
a little slow, but the music and art is good enough that I didn't really care too much.also I desire intercourse with the fairy
>>3673345Pirate it, retard. Firms can't capture all consumer demand with price discrimination or digital sales. Piracy is part of the gaming economy.
I uninstalled after I entered the first mine, this game is over hyped slop targeted for westoids
>>3669149I meant the designs for the enemies(humans as they are called). The character designs are lacking like you said.
Can you romance the brown woman?
The battle theme goes crazy. That and Wukong's "It Will Fit Me Just As Well" are my two most replayed VGMs right now. I love Buddhist rap music
>>3668342Alot of people won't play games with female leads. Me personally, I enjoy games with female leads.I however won't play any games who have niggers as protagonist. Fuck metaphor.
>>3675968He's not a Nigger but he's a Ningen
in two words: extremely boring. horrendously designed dungeons, dull and overexplained dialogue, flat characters and the art style is nothing special. sure, it's cool seeing some enemies come straight from the garden of earthly delights, but graphically it's a dull affair.the combat is also ballachingly boring. i feel like i must be taking crazy pills or these games simply are no longer for me because i truly despised my time with this game and i quit in the final dungeon. no, i don't know why i played it that long either
>>3676085Inb4 some uses the awards argument given that it won in 3 categories
>>3668342I have to deal with too many awful immigrants that playing the demo sent me onto an autistic rage so I had to stop.
>>3676373>watching awards showsThey're ran by the same kinda people that gave God hand a 3.0. Dishonest, crooked media
>>3676436There is literally no award show that is honest. They are all gigantic ads. Why did everyone forget this
>>3676085I kind of like how it mixed 60s fashion with medieval stuff but it somehow turned out dull and wasnt enough for me to keep playing.
>>3676438I expect more from 4channers. I haven't paid attention to video game critics since God hand. They where awful to it and it was one hell of a gem. I would expect everyone here to at least have wrote them off since ~2014. After that controversy with that one bitch sucking dick for good reviews! User reviews are where it's at.I think it's really sad shinji mikami hasn't made a game since the evil within. Which... Wasn't bad but also wasn't great. Hopefully he joins hideki kamiya over at clovers. Last time those two worked in the same studio we got vanquish and Bayonetta 1, two of the best action games ever made.
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>>3668342its pretty mediocre.
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>>3676863two eyepatch guys is too much
>>3668401>You like red more than blue...?>THIS IS INTOLERABLE! WHY WON'T YOU CONFORM TO MY OWN VALUES DAMNIT?>Lock him up! No thought crimes allowed! Cancel cancel CANCEL!>THIS IS NOT FAIR! Why can't you just fucking prefer blue over red??
>>3677134Too many stereotypes?
I genuinely liked the game. I think it had a well refined take on the press turn system from nocturne/smtv, the OST was good and surprisingly not as big as I thought it was. the story was a bit predictable but they had enough twists to keep me invested.One of the biggest pros for me was the worldbuilding. I never see it talked about too much but the actual setting was quite interesting and gave me lots to think about even after the game. I really hope they expand on it if Atlus decides to make a sequel.Oh, and yes I want to stick Gallica up my ass.
>>3675714There is no "romance" in the game. But depending on how you treat some characters, the epilogue allows you to imply a future marriage.I got prompts for that from: Catherina and Eupha. I heard Junah is possible too.
>>3668342Solid game but it feels like the more interesting concepts are vestigial remnants from a more out there original writeup from before they shifted into a glorified Persona gaiden
>>3676085I feel scammed by the Bosch boss designs and initial craziness of the Not Majora's Mask Moon appearing. I was expecting a more surreal and dark sort of game, but then 99% of it was just generic fantasy anime slop with very childish dialogue. A good chunk of characters you encounter are just wacky extremist caricatures for the MC to shut down with his incredibly bland centrist takes where he proposes some vague non-actionable idea like "we should work towards gradually making the racism problem less bad" and everyone instantly agrees with him and sucks his dick like he's the second coming of Abe Lincoln. I feel like I'M taking crazy pills seeing journos praise it as some masterfully written commentary on politics and social issues.
>>3668342It's personashit.It's very good personashit mind you, but ultimately your enjoyment will be limited by how much tolerance you have for toiling through the calendar and grinding through turn based battles where you can't skip way too many animations.Also this: >>3668343
>>3677799>Oh, and yes I want to stick Gallica up my ass.Imagine her kicking your prostate with her tiny soft feet by trying to get out...
>>3677799Imagine Gallica's body puff up as you release your DNA inside her repeatedly
Anyone tried making a 99 luck MC yet? Still wondering if it's possible to get 100% crit Royal Slash. Tried crit stacking on Strol and didn't come close to 100%.
>>3675968>I however won't play any games who have niggers as protagonistThis one took me way longer to get than I care to admit but it proves you played and engaged with the game so I can't even say anything.
>can't smell Maria's fartsshit gameOn a serious note I hate how the social links are handled. Every single fucking one of them involves some random jerkoff showing up and being like "nyeh! i am mean! you suck [CHARACTER]!" Like it was okay the first few times but when it's every single relationship it just gets very repetitive, and the interactions always feel forced.Also you can't smell Maria's farts.
It was alrightThey had to make Louis into lel extremely evil bad guy because otherwise he was right
>>3668342One of the most disappointing games I have ever played. I was expecting way more from the Persona team. It's worse than Persona in almost every aspect, but the combat has potential if they polish it and drop the restart bullshit.
>>3683215>and drop the restart bullshit.BG3 has it, so did BG1 for that matter.
>>3683255I haven't play those games so I can't tell you how it works for them. It doesn't work for Metaphor.
>>3683259The thing is though it's not even OP, if you use it when you have advantage it's no different from quickloading and it costs a turn. If you use it with disadvantage it's functionally useless since it's faster to just turn off the game and load from your last save.
>>3683261>The thing is though it's not even OPIt is because it makes the RNG basically useless.Attack misses? RetryStealing misses? RetryDo you need to faker to get some extra turns? RetryIf you enter an encounter with an advantage, the fight is practically already decided in your favor and the only thing that can screw you up is bad RNG. But as I said, RNG is pointless if you can repeat the turn over and over again.>it's no different from quickloadingOnly if you assume the game has a quicksave feature. The function of random encounters in most RPGs is to create an obstacle between one save point and another. It creates the tension that you can lose your progress at any time if you don't get to a safe place on time. That's why most JRPGs don't have quicksave or let you save manually. This has been the case for most SMT games, with exceptions like Persona 2 (which came as a response from P1 players who complained that save points were too far away). In Metaphor the game saves automatically every time the protagonist farts. So that's the root of the problem. The player's dilemma is not how he will explore a dangerous dungeon, whether it is worth taking a detour and risking death, or whether or not he is ready to face a new enemy, since dying is never going to have any consequences. And even if you voluntarily decide to ignore all these features, the save points in many dungeons are placed too far apart from each other because the game is balanced around the autosave and retry features.
>>3683319>It is because it makes the RNG basically useless.>Attack misses? Retry>Stealing misses? Retry>Do you need to faker to get some extra turns? Retry>If you enter an encounter with an advantage, the fight is practically already decided in your favor and the only thing that can screw you up is bad RNG. But as I said, RNG is pointless if you can repeat the turn over and over again.You can only savescum for the first turn.>The function of random encounters in most RPGs is to create an obstacle between one save point and another.You can ignore all encounters besides bosses, and similarly you can grind trash mobs for MP recovery and some quick archetype xp.>In Metaphor the game saves automatically every time the protagonist farts. So that's the root of the problem. The player's dilemma is not how he will explore a dangerous dungeon, whether it is worth taking a detour and risking death, or whether or not he is ready to face a new enemy, since dying is never going to have any consequencesI've lost hours of grinding to getting jumped because you only save like once a scene. Maybe this is a skill issue or bad prep, I don't know. The game is very much balanced around the player dying to randoms that use soul scream.
It looks pretty shit to me so I stayed away.
