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Who's the best girl in FFVIII?
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>>3670309
Zell's Mom
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>>3670309
Selphie, not even a contest.
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>>3670322
Selphie is cute, but Qirtis has that teacher-student thing going on
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>>3670309
"Girl with a pigtail", sounds French.
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>>3670311
based

>>3670309
you posted her. It's a low bar desu, FF8 kinda lacks in the waifu department.
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I have nowhere else to post this and don't want to make a thread.
Watch the ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvPXZot9Lks
From 2:40 to 4:40 Rinoa is seen disappearing out of (Squall's memories?) in weird psychedelic ways with flanging violins and stuff. They constantly have short cuts to Ultimecia's face and Squall's eyes.
What are they getting at? R=U? Rinoa never existed? Different timelines? Unreliable or psychotic MC? Multiple of the above?
I love this game.
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>>3670912
When Rinoa "disappears" from the scene where she first approches him. Behind her, where Squall was looking, is a guy that looks like a shit version of Squall with a lady in a blue dress. It looks like Rinoa in normal clothes, with the back muscles looking like her angel wings.
Is this whole thing just Squall's fantasy and he was a loser forever?
Sometimes leaving things ambiguous makes things interesting.
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>>3670912
As they travel to the time-compressed world, Rinoa thinks "I'll probably disappear".

Except time only compressed because of her. Ultimecia used her to leap from into the apse. So She's a linchpin holding the hole thing together.

The bigger question is why and how everyone else is able to exist in this time-compressed world. In Japanese, Ultimecia acknowledges this oddity as "the algorithm".

it means that Rinoa must be fundamentally connected to the other characters somehow.
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>>3670309
They're all kinda awful. Quistis is the best of a bad bunch I guess
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>>3670309
why is this even a question?
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>>3672162
Quistis annoys me because it feels like she's ALMOST starting to have a character arc that the game never follows through on. And she's always doing dumb shit like endangering the mission because she needs to say IM SOWWY or this whole circuitous events where she leaves Rinoa danging to almost certain doom to go get Squall, who is busy, to fix it for them instead of just getting a rope or some rope like object she might already have in her possession. Rinoa also does a lot of stupid shit and is likewise annoying. So I guess that really leaves Selphie who wins by virtu of being simply pointless but not doing anything means you don't do something idiotic.
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>>3672217
>she leaves Rinoa danging to almost certain doom to go get Squall, who is busy, to fix it for them instead of just getting a rope or some rope like object she might already have in her possession.
>some rope like object she might already have in her possession.
I laughed. It's not like her weapon is basically a rope and she wears 2 belts and 2 chains.
For the record I like all the chicks in this game. Edea in her black dress is nice, I'm on team Quisty. Damn shame that she gets no character development past the first hour.
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>>3672127
Here's a fun speculative deep cut.
I think the missile base spying song guitar/bass and the great salt lake song piano are both based heavily on this '75 Donna Summer song (love to love you baby):
https://youtu.be/V5AztWseIdU?si=xb9kkP_5nvTvpJqp
The piano parts show up midway or so. I happened to hear this song and I just kept hearing FFVIII.
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>>3670309
none of them.

God, I think FF8 is the only FF game where I hated more party members than I liked
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>>3670309
Tbh, I'd be happy with any of them just talking to me, but I do have a girl with glasses fetish.
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>>3672217
>>3672225
Though humorous to think she could use her whip, if you look at its length and how far down Rinoa is, you can see it wouldn't reach. Even if she added her belts and chains, it wouldn't reach. So they aren't completely stupid.

Now, going straight to your armies commander who is in the middle of giving out orders during a war in order to tell them to save 1 person? That is stupid. Not only is Squall in a location that probably takes the longest to get to out of all people that could help, but what do they think he can do? He doesn't have rope. If he wasn't luckily tackled out the airlock by the enemies flying machine then he likely would have been too late to help her.
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>>3670309
Quistis:
>uses whip
>teacher
>high heel boots
>obvious bait for the common masochist Japanese dudes
Not my type since I am not a masochist or a sub. You can hear the echoes of the designer saying "step on me" just looking at her.

Selphie:
>childish
>tomboy
She was likely the closest thing the lolicons on the team could get to having a loli character in the team. Irvine being a creep was probably them self inserting their desires.

Rinoa:
>Has emotional baggage in form of daddy issues
>It is implied (at least in english translation) that she fucked Seifer, likely on the same night you had that dance with the fireworks at the start of the game.
If it wasn't for the implied Seifer fucking, then Rinoa would be pretty good choice. So unfortunately, none of the girls are the best.
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>>3673739
>[Quistis is] not my type since I am not a masochist or a sub. You can hear the echoes of the designer saying "step on me" just looking at her.
You know... you can be an aggro dom and still like dommy mommies. It's really hot, they can keep up, it's almost like both of you are fighting each other for pleasure and you end up piled on the floor together sweating and tired laughing about it. Good times.
Also, there's the implication that Rinoa had a crush on Seifer and they we're sort of a thing, but where does it even imply they were fucking? Only children and wizards care if a chick had another boyfriend before.
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>>3673739
>masochist
explain
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>>3673766
>Dom can like dom
Sure but it's rare because it's exhausting. In bed it might be fine, but in a relationship it's just a never ending fight of one up man ship.

>where does it imply fucking?
If you have Rinoa on your team when you fight Seifer at the end of disk 2 in the Galbadia Garden. Seifer says to her "Hey, Rinoa. Remember that night when we-" then Rinoa cuts him off with a "Shut up!". (this is likely only in the English version)

>>3674874
A masochist is someone who enjoys feelings that normal people perceive as negative. Whether that is pain or some kind of humiliation. Japanese men are very fond of being humiliated, if how common it is in their media can be used as evidence.

As for how this relates to Quistis, her outfit and teacher job a very often used in such fetishes. Teacher for position of authority to presumedly force you to do things. Whip for causing pain (many whip type stuff used in BDSM fetish). Heel boots which for some reason they love too, I guess heels hurt more than normal shoes? or maybe because heels make the girl taller - and so seem more dominant?? etc.
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>>3670309
Selphie. Quistis is pretty but incompetent.
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>>3678962
her face looks like dogshit.
>western "artists"
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>>3678973
Go back to /a/
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>>3670309
>snow white celti skin
>jet black hair
it's Rinoa.
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>>3678974
typical wignat insecurity and unearned chauvenism
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>>3678978
Pot calling the kettle black
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>>3678981
her face is ugly as fuck >>3678962
and so is yours
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>>3678982
No
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>>3670309

Fujin but if you can´t handle the truth i guess mommy Edea is pretty good too.
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>>3678984
>prematurely gray
>shouts all the time
>no depth perception
I'll pass
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>>3670309
You posted her
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>>3678984
>AI

Fuck off
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>>3670309
Ultimecia

Second is Edea.
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>>3679247
When you don't post anything yourself and only go to threads to shit on ppl it only makes people not want to put effort into making decent posts...
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>>3679426
you mean Rinoa?
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>>3679703

Yeah but older and more experienced
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>>3679247
-dude who won't actually support real artists
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>>3677288
so youre just projecting then
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>>3670309
Rinoa's mom
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There's only one queen for me
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>>3670309
>Who's the best girl in FFVIII?

None
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so I've been thinking of playing this game for the first time.

Should I get the Remaster? Been hearing some bad things about it
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>>3670322
TPBP
Selphie 4 lyfe

Rinoa is dog shit. As a character and mechanically. Quistis is alright.

Though I'd sacrifice it all to have Zell as my best friend.
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>>3680673
If it's your first playthrough then any version is fine. Remaster usually only bothers you when you have nostalgia for the original.
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>>3670309
ultimecia is very cute
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>>3670309
would be the best ff if the combat/leveling wasn't so awful
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>>3679247

Shitposting on the internet is everything AI is good for though. I agree one should support artists but nobody would commission work to make a point online.
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>>3678984
How did she lose her eye?
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>>3680713
I can fix her
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I always thought it was Selphie but for some reason I'm warming up to Rinoa.
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SEX.
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>>3682659
Rajin and Fujin's interactions with Seifer are one of the most underappreciated aspects of FF9 in my opinion.
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>>3670309
You just posted her
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Who’s the best girl in 9 and why is it Zidane?
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>>3680789
Seifer missed her mouth one night while Raijin watched at the Disciplinary Club meeting.
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>>3670309
A generic soldier fighting and dying in one of the badass invasion cutscenes.
Fuck the game could have just been anime military hijinks but it had to develop a stupid plot no one gives a fuck about. I want to Iwo Jima/Normandy/Tobruk anime enemies, not worry about having alzheimers.
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>>3680425
fucking kek, I saved that one as well
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>>3673739
>It is implied (at least in engrish translation) that Rinoa fucked Seifer
are you implying the Japanese FF8 portrays it differently? if so why is American Seifer more chad than Japanese Seifer? Seifer is a good villain precisely because Squall has many in-universe reasons to hate that asshole, then next disc Squall hates him 10 times more upon realizing Seifer cucked him swooping in to deflower Rinoa under his nose at the SeeD dance party. FF8 is intentionally written to make you want hate Seifer so that the player can enjoy the sweet satisfaction of battling/killing him
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>>3670309
unlike most FF8 girls, Quisty has her own official groupie fanclub simp army. Quistis is so popular that she could become the absolute monarch Queen of the entire Balamb region without even having to draw her whip if she felt like
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>>3683521
>FF8 is intentionally written to make you want hate Seifer
Despite being a major antagonist and an arrogant asshole, Seifer is generally shown in a positive light. Both Squall and Seifer are top students at Balamb, but aside from that the gap between them is huge. He's the guy who gets shit done while Squall is spending his time moping around. He's the guy that goes balls to the wall to fulfill his dream, while Squall barely has any motivation other than doing what he's told. Seifer has a tight posse right from the start, while most people consider Squall an antisocial jerk. It's not for nothing that Seifer starts out as the squad leader during the intro mission instead of the actual protagonist. It isn't until Rinoa enters the picture and Squall starts connecting with people in ways that go beyond following the mission that he starts developing a spine. Whether Seifer fucked Rinoa or not isn't even relevant, the point is that he was on the same path as Squall but their paths diverged, with Seifer chasing his dream of being the Sorceress' Knight (a dream that endearingly enough started with Laguna's shitty movie, one of the many threads tying the storylines together) and Squall taking Seifer's original role as Rinoa's bodyguard/love interest.

Seifer's journey ultimately gets cut short by Squall, but at that point Squall has grown enough to be an actual protagonist so Seifer has been rendered obsolete to the story. And Seifer, who felt he couldn't afford to back down after everything that happened, finally finds it in him to step back and simply enjoy what he has. That's why you see him in the ending cinematic simply going fishing and goofing off with Fujin and Raijin. He chased his dream to its conclusion and that was enough for him. He has nothing further to prove so he can kick back and relax.

He's not made to be hated, he's made to reflect Squall's role in the story. He's Squall's equal and opposite, and both of them get their happy ending.
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>>3683521
Jesus Christ are you retarded?
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>>3683605
He's on 4Chan. Please understand.
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>>3670309
How do I get Squall's ultimate weapon on disc 1?
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>>3684545
https://youtu.be/c-Luefv6O4s?t=124
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>>3684647
oh no... I already left for Timber by the time I read your redpill post, can I still get 20 Elnoyle cards on the 2nd continent?
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>>3680673
The remaster is great for a first playthrough. I know it outs me as a zoomer but I cant imagine using those summons without the acceleration feature.
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>>3685548
You are never supposed to use the summons in any FF game.
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>>3670309
Is there any RPG I should play as a romancefag?
I like Squall/Rinoa at the beginning but it when from 0 to 100 way too fast. So far I would say my favorite romance in any RPG is Lunar 2.
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>>3685548
You can fastforward an emulator as well

>>3685866
Tales has romance sometimes, but a lot of the time it's either only implied or stated five minutes before the game ends. One of the games does end with the two MCs straight up marrying with the wedding playing out during the credits, so there's that (and one of the earlier games has a direct sequel where you play as the first game's MCs' son)
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>>3679785
strawman
kys AI shitter
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>>3685147
okay fuck it I'll have to start a new game and remember to grab 20 Elnoyle cards before leaving Balamb
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>>3670309
Laguna, Squall and Rinoa are the only actual characters in FFVIII. Everyone else is either a robot or underdeveloped.
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>>3688228
t. train and hotdogs hater
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>>3673732
Bro if you are dangling off a chasm I will tear off my pants, tie them to another guy's pants, then another, then my rifle. We will use every scrap possible.

"HOLD ON MY WHIP IS 6 INCHES TOO SHORT" is NOT acceptable!!

And these kids were supposedly trained in military field craft.
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>>3670309
>1999 American suburbia
>be me, age 9 gaming wizard with ADD problem
>me and every kid on my block have already beaten FF7
>age 15 neighbor kid who I look up to is trying to explain the Triple Triad TCG meta to me
>"Play that running kid first, he has the Mini Mog card. You'll need that card trust me bro!"
>"Remember you'll probably lose more cards than you earn until you get really good at Triple Triad like me"
>"Never forget you usually have to play defensively in order to win! okay??"
>"BRO WHY ARE YOU FUCKING PLAYING DEFENSIVELY RIGHT NOW?? HE'S CURRENTLY WINNING YOU DUMBSHIT COCKSUCKER!!"
>"Do you not understand a word I say?? Jesus Christ!! I'm trying to explain the rules to you!!"
>"Fucking great dude, you just lost your Ifrit card like a fucking retard! Like I said you are bound to lose more than you earn anon..."
>"No do not load your game up! that's gay and definitely cheating"
good times, the best of times even

>>3670311
checked. fpbp Zell's mom probably has a crush on Squall and would gladly eat Squall's smelly hot dog farts to win her cards back if invited
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there's something about bespectacled women with a light complexion that really gets me
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>>3679703
If Rinoa was Ultimecia I would find Rinoa hot but I don't. Theory BTFO.
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>>3670309
Edea. Quistis is the best of the rest. But let's be real, none of the females in that game, including Squall, are anything more than feces.
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>>3670309
Edea. Not only is she the hottest but, once she isn't possessed anymore, she turns out to be a literal cinnamon roll. Cid is one lucky SoB.
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Tifa from remake. All others are autist nigger picks.
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>>3694808
>Tifa from remake
What a plebian opinion.
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Quistis has such a kissable face
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>>3694674
What the fuck is a cinnamon roll
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>>3670309
You already know based OP-sama
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>>3670514
Quistis's whole arc is completely come and gone by the end of the tutorial. She then completely fucks it up when you give her a leadership role for 15 goddamn minutes and never comes up again in any way
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>>3697253
There's this thing where Squall keeps getting thrust into leadership roles he's unqualified for because everyone else around him sucks so bad that I always wondered if it was supposed to be Yoshinori Kitase self-inserting
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>>3670309
Ultimecia
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>>3670914
>Is this whole thing just Squall's fantasy?
>Sometimes leaving things ambiguous makes things interesting


>I ever sang my songs
>On the stage
>On my own
>I never said my words
>Wishing they would be heard
>I saw you smiling at me
>Was it real or just my fantasy?
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angelo is the goodest girl
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>>3696130
it's like a sweetroll. except with extra cinnamon. it is a term of affection to greet a girl you like as a sweetroll or cinnamon roll
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my high school geometry teacher was fresh out of masters and looked exactly like quistis so i constantly had a boner in class and got a D+ because i couldn't concentrate on math
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>>3683521
>FF8 is intentionally written to make you want hate Seifer
Then they did a bad job. One of FF8 main themes is irony and the irony of Squall and Seifer is that Squall is fated to be a hero even though his appearance and personality indicate the opposite while Seifer is destined to be a villain even though (besides mild bullying) Seifer does have the appearance and personality of a hero.

Now I get that FF8 attracts anxious teens who identify with Squall more than Seifer with but Seifer (again: besides mild bullying) is a more likeable character because he's social, witty, taking the lead, going straight after what he wants and disregards the kind of authority that does not demonstrate authority. That's a lot of words to elaborate on the chad versus the incel meme.

>>3672168
This is not what their relationship is like. They are cluster B and Cluster C personality disorders clinging onto eachother for dear life because all hell is breaking loose.
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>Played the game 25 years
>At least 6 playthroughs
Just did Deep Sea Research Center and beat Ultima Weapon for the first time ever with no cheese strats. Fuck yeah.
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>>3677288
>(this is likely only in the English version)
So it's just the american localizer's cuck fantasy?

AI can't completely erase this shithouse profession soon enough.
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>>3697594
>Now I get that FF8 attracts anxious teens who identify with Squall more than Seifer with but Seifer (again: besides mild bullying) is a more likeable character because he's social, witty, taking the lead, going straight after what he wants and disregards the kind of authority that does not demonstrate authority. That's a lot of words to elaborate on the chad versus the incel meme.
You're doing mental gymnastics to make Seifer look like a more appealing and heroic character, when that is so far removed from reality it's actually quite impressive.
He demonstrates selfishness, massive ego, is disrespectful towards pretty much everyone, bullying, glory hogging, arrogance etc. He's effectively an immature brat. Your idea of a "chad" is an angsty teen.
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>>3697630
Okay so we have two angsty teens. I still see no reason why Seifer is worse than Squall other than Squall being the protagonist and the player becoming more familiar with Squall through his inner monologue. Disrespectful you say? Arrogance you say? Selfish you say? Bullying you say? Squall deeply hurts everyone around him with his cold, distant, inconsiderate attitude but because most people around him are easy going, flexible and empathic the player doesn't notice how much of an asshole Squall really is.
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>>3697695
>Squall deeply hurts everyone around him with his cold, distant, inconsiderate attitude
Squall is reactive, Seifer is proactive. This is literally the most classic difference between a hero and villain type character. Villains act, Heroes only react to what the Villain does.
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>>3670309
>the teacher that's only like two years older than the kids



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