>16 hours in>story has been very hit or miss>gameplay is mediocre at best>interested enough to want to know more>not sure if interested enough to keep playingDoes xenogears get better? I'm at the part right after becoming the battling champion and before what seems to be an imminent purge on Kislev by Gebler, and it's really getting tough to keep going bc everything feels so inconsistent. There are moments where it's great and the story is interesting and the mysteries make me want to know more, and then it'll be sidetracked for an hour or two by clunky gameplay or story that is just shit, like a hamfisted fighting game or sewer level exploration, when i just fucking want to know the next bit of the actual story
>>3682768>>story has been very hit or missThe story is one of the greatest stories in all of video gamesAlso you can enjoy the aesthetics and music because the game is easy. Relax and enjoy the wild ride
>>3682768Things pick up once you get out of Nortune, but there will be more lulls afterward. Generally speaking, things go downhill when either Fei or Elly are unavailable.
>>3682768It should have been anime instead.RPGs that are about stories are shallow and stupid.
>>3682768I got through it because I love the aesthetic and like stupid 2deep4u anime plots but the gameplay is truly awful. I can't even call it mediocre, I'd rather be playing even a baby game like pokemon.I'm glad I finished it but yeah I definitely empathize with having a hard time with it, it's a flawed and frankly annoying and often boring game.
>>3682768>16 hours inI'd say wait for the end of disc 1 before you make any final decisions. Disc 2 is basically an epilogue in length but it contains the entire second half of the story.
>>3682793>RPGs that are about stories are shallow and stupid.then why the fuck are you here? go play fortnite you mouthbreathing zoomer.
>>3682768the combat is just basic ATB with a few gimmicks, if you are expecting more you wont get it. The strengths of Xenogears are the worldbuilding, music, atmosphere, plot and characters. That being said, the game is a slow burn, and you essentially just finished the intro of the game. If you want to see how the game unfolds, keep playing. if you are bored, then drop it.Pic related; best girl is coming up in about 5 more hours of play.
>>3682911>>3682928i'll keep with it for a few more hours, just bc the story is pretty good>Pic related; best girl is coming up in about 5 more hours of play.when does best boy show up
Xeno a shit.
>>3682920Something called RPG mechanics, you are too dumb to understand.
>>3683272>when does best boy show upYou've already met him. His name is Citan and he's the GOAT.
He knew........
>watching youtube review of xenogears alongside playing it so i can hear someone else's thoughts>play like an hour or two>make it like 30 more seconds into a 3 and a half hour videoreeeeeeeee i wish the pacing were better, the story is interesting but it's going so slowly it's like pulling teeth
>>3683272Those are two men, homofaggots not welcome here
>>3684750Gay website broseph.
>>3684750>play a game full of bishie men >wtf gay??reminder that elly is officially canonically a fujo
>>3684750Yaoi is 4chan culture. Gtfo with your yuritrash opinions
keep going. the gameplay is trash, although the way fei works in the endgame where he just backpacks the squad is kinda cool, but the story is a 11/10if you still think the game sucks after solaris, the end of disc 1, then yeah, it's not for you
>>3685108it's getting better but is there a lore reason why elly's gear makes hearts instead of sparks when she hits people? is it some obscure ether magic?
>>3685137ether magic lets you do whatever the fuck you want. she could have the enemies explode into puppies and kittens when hit, if she wanted to.
>>3685137can't remember, have not played xenogears since '00sthe plot twist at the end of disc 1 will mindfuck you harder than the one in ff7's disc 1, keep going
>>3685137actually, i remember now, get to the end of the game and you'll be like ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>3685201but the plot twist in FF7 is halfway through disk 2.
>>3685211yeah, there's that one too
>>3685255>toothere is no other plot twist. What happens at the end of Disk 1 is neither a twist nor mindfuck.
>>3682768Question is do you like the story when it "hits"
>>3685211>>3685281Both of you are wrong the first big plot twist in FF7 is the [sploier]murder of president Shinra[/soiler]
>>3685137It's not explained explicitly but the gears are aligned with their pilots and Elly has been reincarnated like half a dozen times in thousands of yeats and when she.appears is always the love interest of the contact.Spoiler warning.
how the fuck do i get back to the commanders table or whatever everytime i go to the elevator it takes me to the wrong place
>great story!!>main characters hijack a military superweapon with no effort>and get shot down by their own friends>who were piloting a heavily visible battleship>with whom they chose to not make radio contact with to explain that they weren't kislev >knowing any aveh ship would consider them an enemy>it only happens bc nobody thought that that was important enough to radio to bart's ship regardless of whether they knew it was his ship >great writing
I loved this game as a kid. Even adopted id as my handle for online games in my teen years. Only played through it the one time and have neglected to do it again because I don't want to ruin my nostalgia. From what I remember and read from other peoples experiences, it's pretty slow, I remember some grinding I had to do which wasn't really fun, and everyone remembers how the second half of the game was unfinished. I wouldnt say no one shoild play it, but nowadays, its probably too much for some people to handle. Doesnt really make it bad, or good, its a product of its time and is memorable for a reason. Some people will like it, others will hate it.
>>3685558>>main characters hijack a military superweapon with no effortYou do realize that the main character is literally kung fu Jesus. Also what you described is literally just Gundam 0079
So much of Xenogears is characters rambling on about cryptic nonsense like:"Have we me made any progress locating the Hammer of Zillyhoo?""Not yet. You are of course aware that the Vessel of Shandalar is still out there""It doesn't matter. The Father shall take care of that. The Council of the Triangle is on our side and that's enough for now."Repeat ad nauseam for 60 hours until the game actually tells you what any of this shit means and it turns out to just be generic scifi anime bullshit anyway.It's not even that bad compared to other JRPGs of the era but I don't know why people talk about it like it is some deep artistic story that rivals literary masterpieces. Even the psychology/religious references are that people rave about are just random namedrops or incredibly on the nose like a character who represents someone's violent and impulsive side literally being named Id
>>3685600>Noooooo you can't just have cool-sounding names that are in reference to religious concepts!Sounds like a (you) problem anon
>>3685607You can. It's just cringe to pretend that it's some deep shit instead of chuuni anime stuff meant to sound cool.
>>3685600>I don't know why people talk about it like it is some deep artistic story that rivals literary masterpiecesA lot of people here take old games praise at face value, they are too lazy to play them because they are old and dated so they accept their praise and run along with it, you will see many anons praise old games they haven't even touched, just do as everyone says to make yourself look experienced and raise your credibility levels.
>>3685609>It's just cringeOpinion discarded, you're an edgy tryhard who hates fun
>>3685626Proof the it's shift has become antiquated
>>3685558>main characters hijack a military superweapon with no effortWelcome to robot anime, enjoy your stay
>>3685600>and it turns out to just be generic scifi anime bullshit anyway.Low IQ, you are genuinely too ignorant to get it.
>>3685775I know it's very tempting to just say shit like this to try to dismiss opinions that make you uncomfortable but I literally read Perfect Works in Japanese. I almost certainly understand it better than you do since the fan translation of that book is dogshit. Not to mention the official translation of Xenogears itself is not very good either. Your favorite little video game is not Finnegans Wake buddy, it's not actually that complicated.
>>3685854Amusing LARP, but nobody here is believing you.
>>3685600>I don't know why people talk about it like it is some deep artistic story that rivals literary masterpiecesit's the best love story ever told in a game. everything else is just fluff.
>>3685857Whatever you say boss
>>3685859>captura de tela>claims to know moon runesyou ESLs are fucking jokes.
>>3685890>Literally incapable of even imagining someone knowing 3 or more languagesSo this is the power of Xenogears fans...
Don't ever talk to me or my daughter ever again.
>>3685859>captura de tela
>>3685890Whats funny to me about people who use the term "ESL" (as if it's an insult) is that they most certainly only know English. And not to any great extent. Most people I know speak at least C1 English, their native language and usually a third one. Sometimes fourth. Most amerimutts however, speak B2 English, only. Kek
>>3685600For me as an atheist it was the closest to reading the old testament that I could ever get.
>>3685902Many Americans can barely speak English they speak in some niggerese dialect that we foreigners don't learn.
>>3685854Finnegans Wake is syphilitic slop and a betrayal to humanity. Everything Joyce wrote past Portrait was doodoo.If anything, FinWake is an apt analogy for Xeno. All one needs to do is pick and choose from the conjecture of clowns and people will suck it off even if it lacks structure. Just mention the Bible, jew occultism, and the mythological theft of early psychology. You'll win out and fan translators will go insane for twenty years on how to salvage your game for you.
>>3685904Well yeah, I was kind of pointing that out.
>>3682768Best game on the PS1, personally I found it aged like milk. Almost unplayable by 2020 standards which breaks my heart. I won’t blame any zoom zoom for not getting it.Just like FF9 was great for the time but 15 second load times are unplayable by todays standards.
>>3685902All true, but it’s all we got and it’s weird/awesome how effective it is as an insult.
>>3685896>>3685902>>3685904cope more, ESLs. You know I hit a nerve when when you have to spam all these responses.
>>3685900This character literally only exists as a plot device and is pointless after the villains get what they need from her.
>>3685915Most of the content around her was setting her up to be the next protagonist in Xenogears Episode (?)
>>3682768In the series there are only three truly shit games.Xenogears Xenosaga episode 3 And Xenoblade 3
>>3685929>In the series there are only three truly shit gamesThat's trueXenobladeXenoblade 2Xenoblade 3
>>3685931>It's bad because it's popular, good, and successful!!!
>>3685929Nah Xenogears and Ep 3 are some of the bestXenosaga 2 and Xenoblade 3 are the actual worstXenoblade X and Xenogears are some of the best
>>3685933Xenoblade 3 isn't successful, it was not only shit but a huge flop for the series
Any Xeno game that doesn't let me pilot mecha in combat is shitAny that does, is goodIt's just that simple.
>>3685953Actually based and correctThis is why X is the best Blade
Xeno a shit
why is my husband so based
>>3682768You have to keep in mind that Xenogears is an 8/10 masterpiece, not a 10/10 masterpiece.
>>3685908Emulator. Speed up toggle.
>>3685966>knows everything>says nothing>is in your corner for the whole game despite having many opportunities to fuck you overTruly a king.
>>3682768Sex with Elly!Sex with Elly!Sex with Elly!I don't give a shit about your review
wow such great writing lmao
>>3682768>gameplay is mediocre at bestkek. it's crazy how pokemon has more deep combat than this shit.
>>3690984Not really that crazy desu
>>3689900What's wrong with it?
My father? You mean my dad?
>>3690984>>3691067Yeah, Pokemon has deeper combat than the vast majority of RPGs. Xenogears combat is simple, but I enjoyed it. The combo system is neat even if they don't do much with it, and I enjoy the separate system for gear battles.
>>3685600I miss when more JRPGs were written like that. Bring back cryptic and convoluted stories like Xenogears or Chrono Cross, it gave the games a certain mystique.
>>3682768Personally I thought it was great from the start, so if it hasn't grabbed you yet I'm not sure it will. >I'm at the part right after becoming the battling champion and before what seems to be an imminent purge on Kislev by GeblerA lot of people apparently don't like that part, I guess the sewer dungeon is annoying. One friend of mine quit the game there.
>>3682769That so? I strongly dislike the toilet chain movement, but is it worth watching it on yt? It's certainly 20h or more.
xenogears combat does blow, but it's kinda cool how fei just backpacks the final dungeon with no help
>>3691229If you can stand reading at someone else's pace it should be fine, but I wouldn't recommend it.
>>3685137No, it's just anime girl nonsense. Just wait for the chuchu shit.
>>3685896going off your poor english I imagine your japanese is even worse.
Are solaris meant to basically be space jews?>consider themselves chosen and superior to all others>meant to rule the world>secretly play other factions>created a church under their control>call surface dwellers essentially goyim which means cattle>probably think they don't have souls, the way christians think of animals>probably do blood sacrifices to yaweh or circumcise boys and mutilate girls>>3691073people generally don't make good warheads, they don't explode without explosives going off and they don't contribute anything to the explosion why design a machine that kills the user while preserving itself? it just has one shotand it was dumb enough for jessie to change the design so he wouldn't die on using it>>3691224it's definitely been getting better, but it also feels like we're stacking up party members way too quickly with stories that don't have room to breath>>3691320the worst part in game is that the text scroll feels just a touch too slow, and pressing a button doesn't speed it up, so you just have to wait for it to finish a little bit too longer than you would like>>3691369yeah just got past that shit lmao wtf
>>3691320Right, I forgot it's from a time with no voice overs. Worth reading a recap?
>>3691221>Chrono CrossMan, that was a one of a kind game. Flawed for sure but its atmosphere and aesthetic were among the best.
>>3691398Just do what you want but I think you should experience games yourself if you have the time. For recaps these are pretty good to watch even if you already finished the game yourself.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUpsbA5FtKYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnCo3HQnRF0
>>3690984Too bad Pokémon is shit in everything else, while Xenogears is good
>>3691398>>3691689https://whatdoesgodneedwithastarship.com/xenodurr1.htmlhere's a recap of the game that is a rough summary, it's more meant for reading after you play a section because it abbreviates things in a funny way or play on how the dialogue feels
>>3691395>Are solaris meant to basically be space jews?They have extremely obvious Nazi German parallels, like the name of the school Elly was from has something to do with Hitler Youth IRL, but the whole game uses a lot of Jewish Kabbalah symbolism and motifs and Solaris itself uses a Jewish symbol as their emblem.
>>3685951Second best Xeno game after XC2, way more successful than Xenogears and Xenosaga. Are you still seething?
>>3692190>They have extremely obvious Nazi German parallels, like the name of the school Elly was from has something to do with Hitler Youth IRLoh jugend as in hitlerjugend?>solaris crestlooks cooldoes this mean my husband citan was a nazi tho?
If you emulate Xenogears you can use cheats. That way you can ignore the battle system and grinding.
>>3682768no, it's shit, disc 2 is guaranteed drop
>>3692318they even have a romhack for no other purpose but the increase the text scrolling>>3692379well yes, they ran out of budget, and that's why we got disc 2
>>3692318im emulating right now, and it just hard crashes whenever i try advancing the story. it's been working for 30+ hours, and now it decides to stop after i've gotten invested in the story
>>3692442that really sucks, hopefully it's an issue with your iso and not the emulator throwing 30 hours of text scrolling out the window
>>3692455yeah i fixed itbilly just shot a gate, good times
>>3682768I think this is one of those games that people appreciate more for its potential and ambition rather than what's actually there. It's easy to see how Xenogears could have been an amazing game, and it can be somewhat compelling even in the state its in, but it's also a deeply flawed mess. It's interesting enough that I didn't regret playing through it, but I don't think it's particularly good and I wouldn't recommend it to most people.
>>3692483>people appreciate more for its potential and ambition rather than what's actually therecan you clarify what you think the game is missing? because from my experience playing the game, Xenogears has deeper and richer characters, significantly more lore and worldbluiding, and a much more engrossing plot than 95% of other jrpgs. It simply has much more to offer than other jrpgs.
>>3692587A complete disc 2, for starters
>>3689900>>3691395The more you think about it, the more fucked up Buntline becomes.> Solarians treats surface dwellers like stock animal> They use them for everything> Makes sense they would weaponize them as well> Some lambs can still access Ether even with limiter on> PITA. How do we deal with that?> Make a weapon that turns ether lambs into ether bullets> Genius!
>>3692719based citan
>>3685859I, too, would hate good things if I was a dirty latino monkey
>>3692608so i ask again, what's missing from disc 2? the plot is wrapped up and the story is conclusively finished by the end of the game.
>>3692954Anon, I...
