Jumbee EditionNotable Authors: H.P. Lovecraft, Thomas Ligotti, Robert Aickman, Clive Barker, Edgar Allan Poe, Algernon Blackwood, Shirley Jackson, Stephen King, William Peter Blatty, Robert Bloch, Bram Stoker, Mary Shelley, Edogawa Rampo, Arthur Machen, Ambrose Bierce, M.R. James, Sheridan Le Fanu, Brian Evenson, William Hope Hodgson, Clark Ashton Smith, Frank Belknap Long, Ramsey Campbell, Caitlin R Kiernan, Laird Barron, Jack Ketchum, Richard Laymon, Brian Lumley, Stefan Grabinski, Peter Straub, and many many moreDiscuss your favorite horror tales in both short and long form. What have you read lately? What do you want to read? What's a work of horror fiction or an author who you want to recommend?General archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=hfg"
>>25288362>God TierFrankensteinComplete works of Edgar Allan PoeDraculaThe Rim of MorningHouse of Leaves>Pretty GoodDr. Jekyll and Mr. HydeJapanese Ghost Stories of Lafcadio HearnThe Haunting of Hill HouseSomething Wicked This Way ComesRosemary's BabyThe ShiningComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25305599Thanks! That's always nice to hear.I've talked about the changes I currently have in mind, in a post last month; I'll copy it here:--I'm still reading a lot, especially older works and non-English works, to try to make the 'best' chart possible. It will still take years, but I'm working on it and have already found some books that definitely deserve to be on the chart that aren't yet (and some that can be removed, like The Rats, which just isn't a 'good' book, Between Two Fires, which is written so poorly it really disappointed me, despite all the cool ideas the book has, and Ring, which just straight up isn't a horror novel.)I also want to have a section with just short stories, for the authors who have written only a few influential short stories. I want to give them a section without pictures, so a lot can be added in a relatively small space. A few stories by Hoffmann, Gogol, Charlotte Perkins Gilman, Aleksey Tolstoy, Edogawa Ranpo, to name a few.Some that I think should be added to the chart:>Jeremias Gotthelf - The Black Spider>Hanns Heinz Ewers - Alraune>Gustav Meyrink - The Golem (maybe; not sure of it yet)>Horacio Quiroga - The Decapitated Chicken and Other Stories (very likely, still need to read it but have heard so many good things about it)>Jean Ray - MalpertuisComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25288314Get that faggotish xitterlingo out of here
>>25305637>The Troop>In The Miso Soup>J.F. Gonzalez - Survivor
>>25305934..what about those three books?
If you haven't read all of the books on this list, stop posting. Read them and then come back. You are not an intellectual, you are not literate, you are a video game playing, anime watching retard.
>>25305611Penis
>>25305611List full of yankslop and r*ddit tier books
>>25305677Othello is overrated>but muh Iago!Overrated character, not actually that complex, I don't understand why he's worshipped as le deepest character ever written. He's just your typical liar. Falstaff is ten times deeper than Iago and Hamlet is ten times deeper than Falstaff.
>>25305611I have read them all except Harry Potter, 1984 and The Catcher in the Rye
>>25305917Falstaff isn’t in King Lear though
The worst part of reading this book is seeing youself in Giovanni. Chapter 19 where Giovanni goes back to the city where he come from and eveyone has changed, and he feels like a stranger hits especially hard. The past didnt stop for him. He knows he can rekindle the old interactions with Maria but he doesn't even try because she's changed too. He's been been stockholmed by Bastiani and wants to returnThe whole Lazzari thing i kinda didn't get that well, were Tronks action a fall back to traditional old timey rules thus showing us how Bastiani is stuck in the past and how time seems to pass but also go by at a snails pace?The jist is that Giovanni fell back into habits that were comfortable for him and that ate away at his life, the goal was set and all he had to do was wait it out. Thus wasting his life and making it meaningless. He saw his older comrades tossed aside and the same happens to him.Am I missing something here?Man this book was grim, but now what?
>>25304862But how many times have there been no good threads on the log, where you keep opening the same threads yet no one has replied
>>25305297Yes but im struggling to find where to start >Inb4 the greeks
>>25305442Youre lying, Fishfingers are floppy
I prefer Sound of the Sky.
Apparently it has a similar setting, can anyone confirm?
Why are women so obsessed with Harry Potter?
>>25305730anon there is a GIRL on the cover
>>25305731That's a femboy
Does goodreads show demographics or does only imdb do that? I want to know how women rated the books compared to men. The later books have more romance and drama, but are also more autistic about lore and systems. Basically the worst of both genders.
>>25301449unc you're like 15 years late to this
>>25305863Why were women in 2011 so obsessed with Harry Potter?
>I am Julia Bernard, and you are watching or listening to Madrugada Literária. Today, we welcome someone who is controversial, prolific, and whom some even call innovative: Anon. Anon is an author of chronicles, essays, aphorisms, and social and cultural criticism. Straight from the underground, his main works are: Chronicles of Masturbation and Death, I Am Afraid of Women, Non-Work as an Affirmation of the Spirit, Malaise and Existence, and his most recent: Tears of the Aristocrat.
>>25305694>Anon, first of all: thanks for accepting the invitation. You often say that “the only safe sex is sex with bureaucracy.” What exactly does that mean?
WOT?
was he right?
>capitalism is crushing us into misery with labor alienation>no no don't look at that, we are organism exist to br miserable, we evolved that way, that is the problem, your parents are evil and you are too, only the people who make everyone miserable are in the right, Hail IsraelNah
>>25305843Haha no what a fucking retard
Reminder that anti-natalists are likely to be mentally ill and have a personality disorder
>>25305887This doesn't mean that anti-natalist arguments can be dismissed solely due to this fact (inb4 crying about ad hom); it does however add context to why autists make these threads and are completely unable to understand why they are wrong. It also has direct implications regarding Benatar's quality of life argument (i.e. anti-natalists are stuck in a rigid ideological system as a cope for to sustain their defective worldview).Say you're designing a logo and you want to market test for the most appealing shade of red. Would you want most of those in your sample population to suffer from protanopia?
>>25305887Anti-natalists are at a complete poverty when it comes to weighing quality of life. Their defective nature simply precludes them from accepting any rationalization outside of their own self-indoctrination. They don't necessarily mean to be disingenuous because such is simply written into their nature.Also note that the more you talk to them the more you'll realize a sick fascination with harm, violence, and death. These people don't want to reduce harm, they want to justify their resentment and spread their misery.
Your best true crime books?
>>25305847Imo this. I didn't real all the way through (i have a paperback of this) but these two killers were considered the "Ken And Barbie" of serial killers. They were Canadian though, not American. Its also a nice cultural snapshot of early 90s Canada, replete with a lot of the same music and hairstyles of the time and lingo (its about the same as us in the U.S. - I was 8-10 years old when the crimes took place)
>>25305847helter skelter
Ok, how is it possible that three of these four are able to present their thoughts and systems in a (mostly) clear and comprehensible way, while one outlier is (it seems) on purpose obscure and dense? Also schelling writes the most beautiful German of these four, then Fichte, then Kant and then the obscure one.
>>25305398>If in my first exposure to the dude, he proved himself to be an insufferable dimwit, why the fuck shouldn't I reject him?because he's a systematic philosopher and you can't understand his ethics independent of his metaphysics
>>25305347i told ya'll, i bet you all feel stupid now. i was a turbo genius all long. i was far right of the distribution curve you retards thought i'd circled back into the left side of the curve. my iq has to be at least, AT LEAST, 476.
>>25303622test
>>25303622The Germans are mogged by the Ancient Greeks. The only reason the Germans have any value is because they raised the standard of philosophical inquiry (incrementally) from the shallows of the Early Modern period to a barely tolerable level. The Scholastics, for their errors and ideological bias, had more rigorous terminology and distinctions. And the Ancient Greeks were far more penetrating while also being less verbose and less prone to fictional world-building in their investigation of all that is. Perhaps that is due to their serendipity of being the first to ever do it, so they never had to sift through the baggage of the history of ideas. But their collective brilliance from Parmenides to Aristotle is simply unsurpassed. After all, the only system worth building the inquiry into τὸ ὄν. If you're doing anything else... what the fuck is you doin', nigga? This ain't creative writing class.
>>25303750Why did Schelling hate Hegel so much?
Most of us agree that Nick Land is the last philosopher who is/will be in the western canon, at least in our lifetime. Maybe Curtis Yavin too but Land actually has books that will be taught in college.So now that NRx/techno-feudalism is the only way out for western civilization, what are the implications for literature in general? Is authenticity impossible without using some degree of AI?
>>25304780No they didn't>>25304777No it doesn't, you're years out of date. Solar panels are cheaper per square foot than plastic fencing now and have 30+% efficiency.>>25304774I'm not your "pal", lying faggot.
>>25303807don't tell them the truth, it's too hard to handle and gets even funnier since most lit anons larp as people who love philosophy for the truth that it reveals, yet they can't handle the truth of ai and capitalism currently facing them, there won't even be a kindle, or rather it won't be a popular option, media will move on from curated print and video to self generated fantasy
>Most of us agree that Nick Land is the last philosopher who is/will be in the western canon.It's looking bleak for you, anon.
>>25304782>>25304796https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExxonMobil_climate_change_denial
>>25305005brown "people" suck at their efforts to dehumanize White people
>dad recently died of als>some anon said this book made him cry after his own dad died>read it to see if it makes me feel better>guts me to my core and now I can't stop thinking about itIt was literally too real. It was like I just watched my dad die all over again. Now I am back to questioning the afterlife again. Thanks.
>>25302565>Thanks.I usually give the caveat to avoid this book for you or someone you know is actually dying. It's better for when you are healthy and in a meaningless-esistential rutt.
>>25302565test
>>25304434based ban evading chad
>>25304386Yeah, it made me realize I was simply coping with death to avoid the reality. I honestly wonder what the point is of life. Not that that question hasn't been pondered billions of times. Either my dad is gone forever in every reality or his spirit lives on.
>>25302565Buy an ad.
How do I get into Pulp?I need a bird's eye view of all the franchises from Pulp; to see what's popular, what's influential, what matters.I know I could just ask AI, but maybe you guys have a website I can check out?
>>25302324And yet they were hugely popular for over a decade. It alone was a thriving industry.
>>25302324Yeah you got a point, but that didn't automatically mean the writers were dispassionate and unambitious, and neither were the publishers because the competition used the same cheap material so they had to compete in other ways.
>>25302312As an anon pointed out, and I checked, there are a lot of pulps being uploaded to Project Gutenberg now, probably because the public domain cutoff is approx 1931. Also, like I do in many pulp threads, I will mention>https://pulpfictionrenaissance.com/He's a great little autist who has been studying pulps. From what I can understand, pulps are an expression of a certain type of confrontational heroism that is very based.
>>25303022Yeah I ended up finding tons on archive.org, initially I wasn't trying hard enough to find any. But now I can get plenty of PDF scans. I'm interested in putting together something that improves this enjoyment.I will come back and listen to this autist, the 3 hour zoom chat podcast though needs to be run through my slop compactor thoughbeit.
Bump. Looking for anons who might want to make some updated versions of Snappy stories for this century.
When does it get funny. I mean it's constantly a dedpan tongue in cheek type comedy but I'm 2/3 through and didn't have a LOL moment.
I hate the sound of the words Gogol and Gorki so I'll never read any of their books. >When does it get funnySecond word on the cover.
It's pretty silly throughout and spoofs Homeric metaphor and Russian aristocracy well.
I'm a midwit and I didn't think this book was especially good/funny/interesting.
He's literally me minus the part where he's extremely attractive to girls and gets to have sex all the time.
>>25304811For me? It's Takeichi.
>>25304811Incels are hilarious. Their reactions to this book are like a retard seeing a heroin addict and saying "dur, he gets to get high sometimes so his life is actually good".
>>25305828The heroin addict could've made different choices but decided to fuck up his own life. The retard was doomed from the start but tries to make the best of it. Team retard!
What are good books about hermits? I'm mainly interested in their lifestyle and how they sustain themselves.
>>25305763I mean in our current condition, would you blame a homeless man? You sound like the type to enjoy picrel as architecture
>>2530331618 months here I did absolutely nothing but grow a beard
>>25304763What are the chances of being hired if I advertise this service? I do be pretty wise if I humbly say so
>>25305829It hasn't existed for hundreds of years m8. You've already been replaced by the ornamental garden gnome in this capacity.
>>25303316im nearing 4 years soon
How do you respond when your brother asks the question: "what are you going to do with your philosophy degree?" edition>What is /phil/ Philosophy General?A general for readers, students, and armchair thinkers interested in philosophy, whether it be Western, Eastern, analytic, continental, ancient, contemporary. We discuss primary texts, secondary literature, online lectures, podcasts.>Why read philosophy?Politics, science, psychology, etc. all began with or were inspired by someone who thought philosophically. Basically, if you are interested in just about anything, philosophy will help you better understand that subject. Because it is at the foundation of every conceptual institution made or discovered by humans, it is in the underbelly of human experience, and so it is worth taking seriously.>Why study philosophy formally?Surprisingly versatile and undervalued. Phil majors consistently score among the highest on the LSAT, GRE, and GMAT. Strong pipeline into law, policy, ethics consulting, AI alignment, and academia.Previous thread >>25245887
>>25305523Name 10 examples.
>>25305523https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Fk2C9ew-o&t=1swatch this interview in case youre curious which kind of guy you are.
>>25305754>philosophers: *make a one hour and forty-nine minute video on a subject matter*>normal person: *makes a 10 minute video on the same exact subject while hitting all the same exact points*
Philosophy is a social activity, like debate. It is not a field of study, nor is it a form of literature. The writing aspect of philosophy is minimal in comparison to the spoken-word aspect of philosophy. Epicurus figured this out and committed his time to sitting in his garden doing philosophy with his friends. Unfortunately, too many so-called "philosophers" these days are mere academics and historians; persons who believe that the accumulation of read pages and knowledge of the positions of earlier persons means that they have gained wisdom. This is pure tomfoolery. Philosophy today is mostly done in the psychotherapist's chair, where irrational thoughts are sussed out and people are led to live the good life. Philosophy students today would be better off researching methods of psychotherapy than they would be reading some author from the middle ages. Also, too many philosophers have gone the way of mathematicians, demonstrating what can be done while abusing systems of logic rather than attempting to actually understand metaphysics, ethics, epistemology, or aesthetics.
>>25305527Because if you don't make yourself exceedingly clear then people will twist your words against you.On the other hand, there is the strategy of writing thousands of pages of gibberish so that any criticism can be deflected as misinterpretation.
