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>I look at paintings to feel emotions!
>I listen to music to feel emotions!
>I read books to feel emotions!
Only brainlets do this.
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>>25424086
take it down a notch ESL, the gays aren't gonna get you.
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>I go on 4chan to brag about being emotionally castrated and cognitively inferior!
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>>25424754
is it about good painting or do you feel it is good because it is a painting of Jesus?
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>>25424113
>avatar
>signature
jesus oldfag
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>>25424770
>the purpose of art
The purpose of art can be an endless amount of things, sometimes it's to express an emotion. Perhaps you personally don't like art that deals with emotions, but that doesn't make it not art. That's just your taste.

Tell me one reason why this isn't an "isekai".
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>>25425206
Heeeh.
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>>25425209
yes. that's quite literally Alice in Wonderland
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>>25425302
No, you confuse the author for Alice.
The mental state of the main character thinking they are somewhere else is NOT isekai.
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>>25425418
by this argument The Wizard of Oz isn't isekai when it demonstrably is by every definition
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>>25425585
You believe Dorothy was just trippin?

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Esoterik Kantians assemble!

honestly i don't know what to talk about today. just felt like making an esoterik kantian. i'm reading fichte's concerning the concept of the wissenschaftslehre if anyone wants to talk about that tho.
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>>25425126
But Hegel was concerned with political reform. And being comfortable with discomfort is hardly mysticism, it only seems exotic to you because you‘re not a proper adult.
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>>25425151
>being comfortable with discomfort

absolute midwit reply. i'm pretty sure "ris[ing] to that abstract universality of mood in which [...] it ought to be a matter of indifference to him whether he is or is not" is a little more than being "comfortable with discomfort".
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>>25425149
>and said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye turn, and become as little children, ye shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven.
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>>25424331
Kant gave the public doctrine (the exoteric critical philosophy), but the deeper consequences of his principles lead beyond Kant’s explicit conclusions.
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the project is not “anti-Kantian mysticism,” but an attempt to extract the latent metaphysical consequences of the critical system.

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Plot > characters >>>> themes >>>>>>>>>>>>> prose
Murder all literary fags
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>>25423789
>t. slopsist
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what the fuck is prose? get that faggot shit out of here.
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>>25420233
>endless wars and famines
>dig giant hole
>throw writers and readers of books into the hole
>thousands of years of prosperous civilization ensue
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>>25421927
quality vs quantity anon
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every time i see big word an no get it i get mad
bitch you aint that hot anyway

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So how good are the good, you know frontier-ish AIs at creative writing, currently?

When I checked last year you could still tell it was spotty and kind of shitty unless you were totally retarded. How's it this year?

How much time do I have left to finish my book? I'll need another month...

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What the hell e-reader do I get? There's so many choices
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>>25425410
Warm light
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Finally got the kindle charged bout to jailbreak it. Will be extremely mad if after jailbreaking it turns out to be a solid device because I already ordered the x4
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>>25425164
>I have no idea how to explain this.
"halation"?
This is exacerbated by astigmatism, and white on black text, and probably other stuff.

I agree with some of the rest of the post, but reading on different technologies has many factors, and I would say that the main culprit are hardware manufacturers and media companies are at fault. For example, most people in an office job stare at the screen and read for hours a day, and mostly use monitors with a dpi much lower than their phone. It makes text blurrier in comparaison and more straining to read. You will only find coders on hacker news complain and try to remedy this with 5k 27inch screen and so on.
Same with video where the main technological focus has been resolution and meme shit like hdr instead of bitrate. Everything is video nowadays but and yet every step of the pipeline until someone post their slop on ig or tiktok makes it so that you get absolute garbage quality. The only good streaming bitrate platform is fucking vimeo of all things. But it works so why would video hosting companies increase their costs when normies don't know the difference, as you said the function of the video is not the video but often times a nudge to buy something, a toy, an idea, a lie, etc
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>>25425166
>I'm like 90% sure my eye problems make me notice the light problems on phones more prominently. But I can't imagine somebody reading enough books on their phone and coming away thinking that theres no point in an e-reader unless they just don't think the prices are worth it.
oh and I do have astigmatism (maybe not as strong as you, -0.5, -1.5) but still prefer reading on phone rather than ereader because of the smoothness and responsiveness of animations. To me that is more distracting than the clarity drop. Which by the way, you get similarly annoying artifacts when ereader screens are set to have high refresh rate. Maybe not on new ones, but usually there is a tradeoff and most default configurations only do a complete redraw every 2-3 pages, which means you often have grey artifacts
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jailbreaking and setting up the kindle has somehow been a hassle, its not the jailbreaking part thats a nuisance, its the setting up the UI, and margins, and fonts, and all that nonsense part that is a nuisance. i bet x4 with crosspoint is way better about this

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How does one increase one's literacy level?
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>>25424763
you're a shill or retard
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>>25423994
>How does one increase one's literacy level?
There are multiple levels to many writings.
There is the surface level, where one appreciates the writing style and plot, and then there are subsurface levels, where one can detect hidden meanings.
The hidden meanings routinely require a broader range of references, both literary and others, sometimes with a requirement of understanding scientific terms, or who various people were.

Admittedly, this was TV rather than reading a book, but it requires literary reading which I’m sure some people here will have done.
In episode 7 of the first season of “Gilmore Girls”, Rory is visiting the grocery store and talking to Dean, her boyfriend, who is assembling a stack of cans to look like the Mayflower.
Then Rory makes a comment about Corn Starch, before commenting about how she sewed a button on her uniform with a silver thread, and Dean mentions Ant-Spray, since it is fall, Cornucopias are also seen.
I’m sure some people here will get the references.
In a different series, Slow Horses, in season three, you have a character named “Donovan”, going rogue from a private military company called “Chieftain”, trying to break into a storage facility to see the “Gray Files”, but instead going to room “twelve”, to retrieve alternative files, linked to a surveilance system that made individuals in embassies deathly ill.
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>>25423994
Novels
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>>25424755
i would agree based on my own experience. i read being logical by dq mcinerny, which is probably the lowest level intro to logic you could get, and i benefited from it. but also, i just started reading philosophy.
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should i read this i already read high-level, complex and dense texts i also have had the required years of schooling. there's absolutely nothing i can learn from this right? feels like a waste of my time

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Time for one of these. Post your best /lit/ memes
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>>25423959
Somebody unironically made a thread saying "I'm a huge Orson Wells 1984 is my favorite book, what else do you recommend" and people memed on that thread until it died.
/lit/ was very different on 2011
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>>25425215
>/lit/ was very different on 2011
Seems like it wasn't as gay (homosexual) as it is now.
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>>25425215
I remember this thread. People memed it for years.
>>25425233
It was around the same time we had some dreadful tripfags like Deep&Edgy and Brownbear. Trust me, it was very homosexual despite the cool bits. It's just now there aren't cool bits.
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>>25420839
Serious question, do they get wet over this? If so that's pretty weird. Imagine just allowing yourself to get a hard-on in public and being okay with that?
I'm no prude but women are fucking weird, man.
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>>25425041
Those screenshots just make it seem like they're taking the piss and anyone who takes them seriously is the real butt of the joke

Jack Vance Edition

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.

Old thread: No idea lol.
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>>25425597
Reminds me of wow novels.
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>>25425612
How so? It's classic 70s sci-fi fantasy.
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>>25425643
Huh? You do realize modern fantasy slop is heavily influenced by Vance? The Last Guardian, arguably best wow novel, is literally based on the 1st dying earth story.
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>>25425682
The difference is that Vance is actually a good writer.
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>>25425531
Im reading planet of adventure by him and enjoying very much, and I don't enjoy genere very often.

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Did he do it?
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>>25423587
>I want to get something Tolkien related for my desk though
how about a bible
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Give me one good reason why I should care about the comparative quality of good fantasy, sci-fi, dying earth, etc novels other than reading order.
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>>25425192
Limited time
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>>25423644
Don't worry, I've already got that

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I shipped $2000 worth of books from my parents' house to my apartment but they got lost in transit.
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>>25424937
They were in a box. I probably didn't tape them well enough and >>25424411 was right. The box probably weighted like 40 pounds and the package handlers broke it while throwing it onto a conveyor belt.
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>>25424911
Most books have almost no resale value, and anyone trying to make money off of books needs to know exactly what they're doing. They'd need extensive knowledge and the contacts to make the effort worth it. There's a reason people usually steal jewellery and electronics.

If you stopped ten random people on the street, I'll bet not one of them could name a book worth more 50$ off the top of their head.

You either got scammed, or the driver fucked up and was covering his ass. If your package got stolen, I doubt the person knew they were books.
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>>25424947
What books did you have? $2000 for 40 pounds seems disproportionate
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>>25425043
They were all history books and classics.
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>>25424268
You could've downloaded all of those books for free and saved yourself from losing all that money

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I have been in the most overtly unjust way banned from ban evasion after not having been banned at all in the first place.
The ban has since been appealed and all has been made right.
I wish to continue our discussion on ethics.
How can there be objective ought-claims without grounding them in a personal, eternal, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent God?

FAQ
>Why personal?
So that cosmos has Telos and the laws of ethics don't change randomly
>Why Eternal? Why omnipresent? Omniscient? Omnipotent?
So that the laws of ethics are the same all throughout time, space, without any other being capable of changing them anywhere, anytime etc
>But I thought morals are subjective?
You can argue for that if you like but we'd rather you didn't, it's silly and ultimately it entails some weird things
>Haven't we had this thread 6 times already?
Seven.
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>>25425537
I never said anything about connecting with trees and wild animals, we were talking about the role of observation in determining the morality/immorality of behaviors. The first dictionary definition of nature is shown to aid you.
>When one says "I eat animals" is he confessing to cannibalism?
No one said this.
>Animals do not posses will, therefore they cannot "practice" morality
Many animals possess social behaviors genetically encoded to improve the survival of their social species. These behaviors, like maternal instinct to protect the young, are teachable/enforceable via threatened or practiced violence on those who transgress. The collection of the traits of preference, learned behavior, and decision making can be called will.
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>>25425558
>picrel
>The first (as in one of many) dictionary definition of nature
Funny. As if I've accused you specifically of equivocation.
>Many animals possess social behaviors genetically encoded to improve the survival of their social species
You can feel free to classify animal behaviors as "social" but do any of those point to any sort of will? This is what was in question. "Genetically encoded" at the very least points to a sort of determinism which is incompatible with will. How can there be morality within information from genes or, like you put it, pre-programmed behaviors?
>These behaviors, like maternal instinct to protect the young, are teachable/enforceable via threatened or practiced violence on those who transgress
Do these animals have ladders of values or, more explicitly, do they will to teach their progeny to act a certain way?
Let us not be faggots about it any longer. Do you believe animals (as in non-human animals) have will?
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>>25423246
there arent any. and god wouldnt make them exist. we make choices. god is for the weak to be compelled and the evil to be cowed.
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>>25425417
lamest post ever. like just dont fucking rape people. its not that fucking hard.
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>>25425576
>You can feel free to classify animal behaviors as "social" but do any of those point to any sort of will?
Yes, as I stated, those behaviors are teachable/enforceable via threatened or practiced violence on those who transgress.
>"Genetically encoded" at the very least points to a sort of determinism which is incompatible with will. How can there be morality within information from genes or, like you put it, pre-programmed behaviors?
It implies no such thing, and humans are fully genetically encoded in our behaviors as well. Our encoding just happens to be a bit more complicated with much larger brains and a capacity for language and abstraction that other animals lack. Morality is genetically encoded via the pressures of natural selection. An insect or fish that shits out a million eggs doesn't need to care for its young as much as a mammal with a several-month gestation period and a multi-year period for sexual maturity. Higher intelligence capable of particularism (a simple morality but obviously a morality nonetheless) will be capable of nurturing stronger/more advanced offspring, and to violate that morality is to doom ones own bloodline.
>Do these animals have ladders of values or, more explicitly, do they will to teach their progeny to act a certain way?
Yes, pecking orders within birds are an obvious example, e.g. runts incapable of feeding themselves being killed by their peers, or alpha male dogs in packs selectively applying violence to other dogs to enforce order like in webm rel.
>Let us not be faggots about it any longer. Do you believe animals (as in non-human animals) have will?
Yes.

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What’s the point of coming here? No one reads and what little effort you put in, some troll is going to just mess with you. It’s better off reading a book and not coming here at all.
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>>25424837
Double digit was clearly being too generous. Pretending to be that old while typing like a middle school girl is a pretty weak larp.
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>retards fighting over off topic shit
I think OP might be onto something.
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>>25424029
i just come for the esoterik kantianism threads
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>>25424029
What books do you recommend?
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>>25425711
no ur right i was agreeing i was just saying i'm too uptight to pull that shit myself
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>>25425707
Daniel Patrick "Dan" O'Connell?
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I bit off more than I can chew with my new girlfriend. She's too much for me to handle.
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>>25425718
Well that's part of life and the experiences of dating.
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hey guys can you review my renamon story? I used ai to generate it and I am uncertain of the results.

https://vocaroo.com/1nkCnOPL0c7N
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I’m trans btw, keep that in mind while reading it, thanks!
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>>25425651
not any worse than any given webnovel
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>>25425651
Why are you like this? Did /lit/ wrong you or something?
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>>25425670
it is part of my autobiography


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