>there's no way I am able to know if other entities (literally multiple trillions of organisms) have consciousness>but I'm sure I have consciousness and qualia is real because... me brain says so... and that's not circular reasoning or anything, that's proof qualia/consciousness is real (the most biased apparatus created on Earth - myself knows it to be true and therefore qualia exists lmao)explain this, consciousness apologists.
>>23895214an illusion implies there's something being illuded. what is that thing, if not consciousness?
>>23896419but he doesn't deny consciousness
>>23896425>what is that thing, if not consciousness?your brain dude
>>23895745So the thing that doesn't exist somehow "has" things like "bias" and "experience", despite again, not existing? Once again, something simultaneously does not exist and yet is also at once the possessor of things? Difficult to understate how retarded this is.
>>23897244>Once again, something simultaneously does not exist and yet is also at once the possessor of things?things "inside" your computer (that only exist digitally) can create other things that can exist inside that digitally created space, while both simultaneously are simulations. I don't see the logical issue with experience being illusory and then the illusion creating other biases such as other experiences.
The revolutionary movements of 1848 and of 1849 were sounded by Cortés as an alarm. And he foresaw the fatal process of the leveling and the massifying of society, brought about by the progress of technology and by the development of communications. He says that not England (which one indicted with the subversion inherent in liberalism) but rather Russia (which then was Tsarist) was to be the center of the subversion, through the connection of revolutionary socialism to Russian politics (precisely as has occurred in our epoch, with the advent of Soviet communism). This is a singular forecast if one considers the period in which it was formulated. Cortés here meets the great historian Alexis de Tocqueville who in his work on 'Démocratie en Amérique' had seen in Russia and in America together the principle forcing bed of such subversive processes.Cortés warned of the acceleration of the rhythm, the approaching moment of “radical negation or of sovereign affirmation ('llega el dia de las negaciones radicales y de las afirmaciones sobranas')”; and the whole of presumed progress in the technological and social camp would only bring that moment nearer. He foresaw that the massification and the destruction of the previous organic articulations would lead to forms of totalitarian centralization.He could glimpse but few paths of escape from this situation. He recognized that the epoch of monarchical legitimism had waned, because “there no longer exist kings; not one of them would have the courage to be king other than by the will of the people.” On the other hand he recognized with Maistre that the absolute decision is essential to sovereignty, to statal authority — a decision without any appeal to anything superior, analogous almost to papal infallibility. For which he took a stance against parliamentarianism and bourgeois liberalism, against the “class which discusses” — for in the decisive moment, this class would not be up to the heights of the situation.
In this context, Cortés recognizes however also the peril of a new Caesarism, in the pejorative sense of a formless power in the hands of individuals who are deprived of every higher anointment — a power exercised not on people but on simple gray masses. He spoke of “plebeians of Satanic greatness,” which seem to act in the name of and for the good of an other-worldly sovereign. Given however that every legitimistic conservatism seemed to him emptied of every vital force, he sought a surrogate to bar the way to those forces and powers which arise from beneath. So he defended dictatorship as a counter-revolutionary idea, an antithesis to anarchy, to chaos and to subversion — if nothing else, as a 'pis aller or a faute de mieux'. But he spoke also of a 'dictadura coronada'. The expression is certainly suggestive; it includes the “decisionistic” anti-democratic idea, it recognizes the necessity in a power which decides absolutely (that which counted for Maistre as the essential attribute of the State), but at a higher level of dignity, indicated by the adjective 'coronada'.But every concretization of this formula encounters manifest difficulties. In the time of Cortés there yet existed dynastic traditions on the European soil, and the formula might have been realized if one of their representatives had but taken ownership of the ancient maxim 'rex est qui nihil metuit' (he is king who fears nothing).— Julius Evola, Recognitions: Studies on Men and Problems from the Perspective of the Right
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>>23897509>17 June 1879. Richard explains to the children the consequences of the (civil) emancipation of the Jews, how the bourgeoisie by this means was depressed and the lesser people seduced into corruption. The Revolution (of 1848) shattered feudalism and in its place introduced mammonism.>During a trip to London in 1877, Wagner lingered over the spectacle of the industrial and commercial activity spreading over the banks of the Thames and exclaimed: “It is here that Alberich’s dream has been accomplished. Nibelheim, world domination, activity, labour, everywhere one perceives the pressure of steam and fog.”
Old thread: >>23816288First horror slop I ever read edition
>>23894659R U M PUMP
any worthwhile gothic recs?
>>23867635Finally a good fucking thread I’ve been meaning to buy some decent horror books
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>>23896858The Castle of Otranto, The Monk, Frankenstein, Carmilla, Dracula are all great classics
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>>23897288That sounds so plain by comparison. Every sentence starts with "S/He [verb]"
>>23897324>Every sentenceYes, all two of them. It was supposed to convey the point, not be a comprehensive guide to all the conceivable possibilities of the English language.
>>23896750Thank you anon, I get what you mean and can already think of ways to trim it. Do you think about 25% less would be good? I don't want to just gloss over interactions with 'he told us this then we did that'>>23897206Tell me about it
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I came here to say:ROKO'S BASILISK IS THE WORST FUCKING "THOUGHT EXPERIMENT" THAT WAS EVER CONCEIVED; AND I HATE EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO ENTERTAINS IT UNIRONICALLY. IT'S PASCAL'S WAGER, EXCEPT 1000x WORSE.
>>23896751>That hypothesis is what led to "Cogito ergo sum."which is a cope. there is no answer to Evil Demon hypothesis.
>>23896277>>23896301The point isn’t that it’s a capricious being. The point is that it is a rational being. It has a good reason to hate you and to punish you for your insolence.
>>23896277Roko's basilisk seems retarded in a vacuum, but you have to understand that this wasn't writen in a vacuum, it was part of the rationalism community created by Yudkowsky where people were writing similar """rational""" thought experiments, and Roko's basilisk proceeded to make the whole community implode, burn down in flames, and never be taken seriously again. it was a work of genius in that sense. it's a bit like what the fedora image did with atheism
>people memeing themselves into thinking Roko's Basilisk will actually happen, when it obviously wontMaybe I just don't get thought experiments. Why was this goofy creepy pasta bullshit giving people nightmares?
>>23897460because they had spent years writing similar thought experiments but that turned good instead
(You) Spanish anons are genuinely retarded for not valuing your literature enough to try and make it a respected tradition worldwide. Don't make me become the next Longfellow, Grossman or Clara Bell and finally make a proper good translation of Baltasar del Alcázar's poetry into English for you.>inb4 b-but we're content to be appreciated only among los hispanohablantesBullshit, and everyone knows it. Juan Ruiz spits on your name.
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>>23896876why? no one cares about the opinion of anglotards that streetshit in Benidorm
>>23896876>Fembrained shaming tacticsWhy don't you become the next jewish translator of a foreign language
Based>Nietzsche>Heidegger>Holderlin>Devi>Serrano>Yockey>Cioran>Eliade>Alamariu>Schuon>Klages>Dugin>Spengler>MoldbugComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23885787>Devi>Serrano>Yockey>Klages>Dugin>Moldbug>Land>Evola>de MaistreHacks who can only regugitate without bringing something new
>>23885787lol most cringe based list I seen lmao
>>23885787>buddha>cringekek, worst bait I’ve read all day, so bad
>>23885787>Cringe>Aristotle
>>23893917I don't understand what this means
What are you reading? How is it? Say something about it
>>23896321Just given up Meditations by Aurelius for the second time. I just can't read translated books they have no flow, at least at my IQ level
>>23897220kek I saw this comment and correctly guessed what book you'd be talking about
Marvin Gaye's biography It's crazy how his father hated him to the guts, probably could have avoided his fate if he wasn't so naive into thinking that mf cared about him somehow
>>23896321>What are you reading?one of the king james bibles I inherited from my nan (she gave me five). I’m up to 1 Samuel where the Philistines return the ark. and the first volume of ‘2000 years of christ’s power’ by nick needham>how is it?the bible is very inspiring because everything that happened to Israel is a type of what happens to me as I walk with the lord 2000 years of Christ’s power has been a very general overview. I know I’m picking up some facts that are not quite meet but it’s good enough as an introduction to the timeline of forces inside and outside the church that have made it what it is. I like that it includes excerpts from the writings of church fathers and other historic figures at the end of each chapter but I would appreciate more footnotes indicating the author’s sources.
>>23896321The Tommyknockers by Stephen King. The first part of the book was a engaging read. The second part introduced a new character which isn't as engaging. Things have come to a halt and the story isn't moving as quickly as before. Grinding my way through at the moment.
>whenceover
>be that as it may
>>23897263>they're there
>holocaustic : adjective
>whomsoever
I just came back after months. I missed you guys. What did I miss??
>>23896314I don't know. Humans tend to idolize the past, the memories vague and unreal. 4chan was probably always shit. I know that, but now it feels even more shit. But everything is more shit nowadays. We are but ticks on the bodies of the elite, forced to drink the blood of their monstrous creations. Can I truly blame the masses that flock to our wretched shores? Can I blame them for spreading their pestilence, when it is but a symptom of their existence? When it is not their intent, but a side-effect? We are a harbor of anonymity in a shrinking internet and soon, we too, will be gone. Elon Musk would probably think it's funny to own 4chan, and then it's over, for real, for good. I want to die.
>>23896323Kek, that genuinely made me laugh (in a good way. Don't worry anon, I'm a complete newfag (2023) but keep effortposting and ignore all the riff raff
>>23896258What's updike?
>>23896298There are no good sites, this is the best one in regards to literature and it's complete garbage now. >>23896323/lit/ wasn't always shit you'd know if you've been here for some time. The ratio of retard to insightful has greatly skewed to one side as the years went by, there were always retards of course but you'd have a fair number of actually educated and insightful anons who weren't complete losers irl that could offer you an interesting perspective, now those people are almost completely gone. The only halfway interesting people left are the neet losers who have read enough literature to be vaguely interesting, and even they are mostly drowned out by a horde of pseuds.
>>23897486>There are no good sitesI've been on enough alternatives, the ones of ''higher quality'' aren't active, thus rendering them largely pointless. Too small a user base. And everything else is just normie lit.
Any book about a constructive criticism of capitalism that isn't "muh richs need to be hanged upsidedown"?
>>23897404Read the georgists and institutional economists
>>23897404George Fitzhugh - Cannibals All
I like reading mentally-challenging books but often find myself struggling to read more than a couple of pages at a time. Sometimes I stop reading altogether after a couple of days. I am usually free in the evening after work but often am exhausted and struggle to stay focused when sitting down and reading. It also doesn't help having many different interests and losing concentration quickly. Any tips for staying focused while reading and getting through a whole book even when it's hardcore philosophical lingo? I remember that taking notes and making summaries helped me before with some more technical books.
>>23896191Pic related for instance. In general it's old(er) philosophical/political works from the 19th and 20th century, some are even older. I do read more recent history and economy books, though, which are easier to digest.
>>23896445Good advice. How do you do it with your work schedule and stuff like showering and eating after your workout? Do you still find proper time to sit down and read?
>>23897467no I just work out all the time and sleep and eat and work out again. just came from /fit/ somehow accidentally somebody linked this board hey what;'s up
>>23896455Agreed. With some books, I will have to reread certain paragraphs anyways because the language is just so complex at times. How do you string the different parts of a book together after sepnding more time on certain paragraphs?
>>23895640>>23896191>>23896445>>23896455What are you reading btw?
I read Brave New World a few months back and was recently reminded of how shitty of a book it is. And I was incredibly dissapointed because1.) The intro sequence actually got me invested, it was honestly a pretty interesting set-upAnd 2.) I read through the entire thing hoping it would get better, to which, it did notIt is literally the blandest dystopia I have ever read. At least 1984 is able to salvage itself towards the end. Its the equivalent of the Dune , it should've ended on book 2, but at least Dune has a badass setting, great worldbuilding (even if most of it comes from exposition dumps), and actual characters that are one dimensional cardboard cut-outsIts a nothing-burger of a book that presents itself as a "mature critique on society's future", patting itself on the back like the pretentious little sack of steaming literary shit it isI hope Aldous Huxley is burning in hell along with Booktok romance and "Extreme horror" writers
dystopia has never been good. it's all just "advanced technology" + complaining about how "life sucks". so boring stuff in written words + boring stuff to hear just = boring stuff
Where does he talk about 'Geworfenheit' in the most detail? With what I've read so far (which is admittedly not too much) his concepts seem to open up with time, while going over it again and again throughout his work you end up comprehending the point. So what are some vantage points on his thrownness concept?
>>23896261First part of Being and Time
>>23896266I've already read being and time
>>23896261Geworfenheit as a term first appears in Being and Time, but the notion already appears in his 1919 courses only to recede until B&T. So that book is your best bet, he doesn't really go into it in the sometimes more accessible lectures.
>>23896261Let's talk about Gelassenheit instead.
>>23896261>>23896288A lot of ideas from B&T never really get developed, I don't think being-with ever gets much elaboration either for example. So if you've already read B&T I don't think there is anything more.
How do fellow ESL bros cope with the death of the Book Depository? For me it was the only place where I could buy all kinds of books in English with reasonable shipping.
>>23897371it died with brexit, prices were ridiculous
>>23897445I bought a used one, kindle paperwhite3, I think it was $60 about 5 years ago now. Pays for itself fast
>>23897452damn you Farage
>>23897371I've always bought English books from Amazon ever since it came to my country, they have most of the Penguin Classic books and other English stuff priced lower than anywhere I've searched, with free 1 day shipping unlike other sites which take up to 2 weeks. Anyway, just get an e-reader dude. Buy a used Kindle, buy a battery from aliexpress and replace it, Chinks probably send shit to Belarus or anywhere you live really, jailbreak it, install KOReader and you'll have a $50 capable e-reader.
I am not knowing how it is for you guys but for me I go to a bookstore nearby who orders from America and England directly. Cheaper than if I order myself some books through the Amazon website.
