What time does to a Mf'er editionPost your philosophy stacks>What is /phil/ Philosophy General?A general for readers, students, and armchair thinkers interested in philosophy, whether it be Western, Eastern, analytic, continental, ancient, contemporary. We discuss primary texts, secondary literature, online lectures, podcasts.>Why read philosophy?Politics, science, psychology, etc. all began with or were inspired by someone who thought philosophically. Basically, if you are interested in just about anything, philosophy will help you better understand that subject. Because it is at the foundation of every conceptual institution made or discovered by humans, it is in the underbelly of human experience, and so it is worth taking seriously.>Why study philosophy formally?Surprisingly versatile and undervalued. Phil majors consistently score among the highest on the LSAT, GRE, and GMAT. Strong pipeline into law, policy, ethics consulting, AI alignment, and academia.Previous thread >>25194327
So much Kant itt. I‘ve been having a rethink about the matter of sensation. The whole thing sounds so illogical - how can you speak of matter without form? But the only reason Kant talks about this is the contingency and givenness of experience, that‘s what he‘s trying to preserve, he just does it in a nutty way that he doesn‘t explain very well. There are two poles, intelligibility and contingency, which underlie his reasoning in cpr. Schelling and Hegel took a wrong, ‚Platonist‘ move here where Kant is Aristotelian, it seems to me. Has anyone here read Allison?
>>25259412>how can you speak of matter without form?Chokmah
Were humans 120,000 years ago conscious in the phenomenological sense? It seems to me concepts and inventions, language and logical systems, etc. have nothing to do with experiencing the world. Its interesting to think that what it feels like to be a human and what it feels like to experience things is roughly the same for us as it was for homo erectus or whatever. Not as comfortable making that claim about other animals
>>25245887Can a Marxist explain to me the difference between mechanical materialism and non-mechanical dialectic? How is materialism anything but mechanical?
There is no substantive difference between what Kant says in the Deduction about the trsnscendental unity of apperception and what Aristotle says about the agent intellect in De Anima. It is the same thought presented in two different ways.
The Brothers Karamazov has a very progressive take on Orthodox Christianity and kinda shits on the old school "BEGOME ORDODOX" tradition in the Zosima - Ferapont duality.Kinda interesting, so that the stupid critique of Dosto being this reactionary figure goes out of that window.
>>25260152They are my own views, which I formed while reading the novels. The only "word for word" sections that could be considered a Nabokov quote are "sinning their way to Jesus" (which is actually a Bunin quote which Nabokov, in turn, borrowed), and "sensitive murders and soulful prostitutes" (an apt summary of the type of character under discussion).Again, you can form an opinion of a work and then strengthen it with quotes from other critics who were thinking along the same lines. As I pointed out, Nabokov himself did this when he quoted Bunin. Are you going to accuse Nabokov of not originating this view since he once quoted someone else saying it first?
>>25260567I have a hard time believing you read the book if the character Grushenka felt notable enough to include in your absolutely original opinion on it. I think if anything when Nabokov gripes about her in that interview it's because the question irritates or amuses him.
>>25260634I've demonstrated I have read them with in-depth criticisms. You've added absolutely nothing beyond vaguely motioning towards certain characters by name while providing zero details or evidence of WHY you think they go against my criticism. The thing is, I have no trouble believing you read the book, you're just incapable of having an interesting thought.
>>25260705Yes, very in-depth criticisms anon. Very good job, you wrote very insightful and interesting critiques that totally are your own original thought and were produced solely from your own reading of the book. I want you to know how proud I am of you, how important the work you do is, restating the dosto meme on /lit/ is truly a thankless task that only those who are tirelessly dedicated to literary excellence pursue.
>>25260729Congratulations on yet another post with zero substance, you're really on a roll!
Post and discussion about any type of history book.>The Norman Conquest: The Battle of Hastings and the Fall of Anglo-Saxon England by Marc Morris>The book begins with the Saxon kings, specifically Edward the Confessor, and shows how England was in constant conflict as the English fell prey to both Vikings and Normans. In the north, King Harold destroys his Viking namesake at the battle of Stamford Bridge but immediately has to hurry south to confront William of Normandy at Hastings. His defeat, and the destruction of the Anglo-Saxon warrior caste, leads inexorably to William's forceful occupation of an unwilling country. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40229197-the-norman-conquesthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Conquest
>>25260916Jeepers creepers, we'll be on our guard for sure now Mister
>>25260937Haven't read it. But Deirdre McCloskey is a highly respected scholar in the field. She says:>"the main failure of his hypothesis is, oddly, that a book filled with ingenious calculations [...] does not calculate enough. It doesn't ask or answer the crucial historical questions." She concluded: "[...] Clark's socio-neoDarwinianism, which he appears to have acquired from a recent article by some economic theorists, has as little to recommend it as history."So, dunno.>>25260916=)
>>25260938Craaaawling in my skiiiiin>>25260942She's libertarian i see. I thought libertarians (at least the American variety) were somewhat sympathetic to that view?
>>25260969Guess she's not. She's also trans. Not that it matters imo.
>>25260971>transThat explains a lot as to why
We used to be hyped about BAP, Mishima and Junger, the promise of being warriors for a new Nietzschean caste that Curtis Yarvin said would be like the elves of LOTR. We read Nick Land and drew power from Evola. We were all, above all, based and redpilled.Now it seems as if those days are gone and the board culture is dying
>>25258499>We used to be hyped about Homosexual, Homosexual and Communist, the promise of being bottoms for a new Homosexual orgy that skinnyfat dark-redditor said would be like the Guts of Berserk. We read schizoid Methboomer and drew power from Ebola. We were all, above all, fags and readlets.
>>25258579Holy NEWFAG
>>25258499Mishima and Junger are still good. Don't tarnish their names by associating them with a literally Jewish - both BAP and Yarvin - psyop that (you) fell for.
>>25260149You’re clinically retarded
>>25258499Sorry dude, we only follow based liberal intellectuals like Francis Fukuyama (PBUH)
ok, hear me out
>>25260651thank you, O Reasonable Ones
>>25254204Our creative capacity is not limitless
>>25251821>it was so low IQ it made seriously question if any marxists get Hegel.How? I've yet to read the manuscripts but would appreciate any pointers
>>25249943oh shit was this a kanye reference?.gg/jppj9tyh
Hermeticism is a blind, if you really want esoteric Hegel you need to do what every esotericist does: search for his comments on God and read them against the grain of the overt statement.
My current system is very critic-esque and not student-like, I wish I could deeply absorb and analyse the nature of a work through annotating it, especially with the help of simple symbols. Currently I underline whatever stands out or doesn't make sense (to me)
fyi highlighting is among one of the worst ways to retain information compared to basically anything else. It's basically useless and at this proportion is essentially playing with a coloring book
>>25250113Well, thank you for asking! Usually I try to underline every sentence that has 1 noun, highlight for every sentence with 2 nouns, and circle every sentence with 3+ nouns.
>>25258914>essentially playing with a coloring bookWhy else do you think womenchildren like doing it?
>>25258949Colors are cute
>>25256085You can see a note in the margin on a previous page if you had an observational skills whatsoever.The boys on this forum are so arrogant when they're complete retards themselves. Just dumb dumb dumb.
Kys bakker fag and screencap nigPrevious: >>25246401>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>25260737Since you refer to 12 years old, I refuse to believe that you're any older than early 20s, but could still be a teen even. I refuse to believe a plausible reason for why you are the way you are. I don't want to believe you've gotten an older age abd haven't realized how ridiculous you are yet, if no other reason than others beat it into you.
>>25260737I'm not sure what to tell you, but I think the difference comes down to mindset. You say the ending matters more than the journey but I’d argue that books where the ending is everything are actually very rare.You see the journey as a chore because either you’re not as into reading as you thought, or the book/series simply doesn’t fit you. You end up fantasizing about the ending as if it might fix that personal disconnect.On the other hand, fans of the series, those who love reading or are the exact target audience, don’t see the journey as a chore at all. To them it’s a pleasure. They feel rewarded with every word they read. Every additional book is just “more cake” for them, and if the ending is good, it’s merely the cherry on top.
>>25259586>Is well of ascension the one with the retarded love triangleit's not even a love triangle though.A love triangle has to require you to believe there's a choice for one of the characters to make. Vin loves Elend at the start of the book, and their relationship is never in doubt for the entirety of it. She feels bad for Zane, but I never once thought she was going to drop Elend to pursue him. And I honestly didn't feel like Zane really romantically liked her either.
How woke is Adrian Tchaikovsky?
>>25260795Brandon himself refers to it as one
Post an image with more talent. You can't.
>>25259641actually, I just remembered, Dostoevsky mentions "Polinka Saks" in Demons and that was written by Druzhinin. I think Pyotor Stepanovich was making fun of someone for reading it?
>>25257450You haven't read either you sorry dumbfuck
>>25257450Shalom, Rabbi
>>25255729I only recognise ts eliot. Who are the rest
>>25257482Why are you bothering?
There is no society. There are just parallel hierarchies (social circles). Politics is very different from hierarchy to hierarchy. We are all arguing over governments which, to ensure the freedoms of members of different hierarchies (the freedom of choice and the primacy of the individual), must hold authority over the collective of hierarchies to prevent a kind of social monopoly (ie populism) which threatens the freedom of distinct hierarchies and the government which allows them, on the basis of free choice, to select for better traits and then thenrestructure of existing hierarchies or the development of entirely new ones. So, for the health of civic life, we MUST have a government which, through the sharing of power, and a robust system of checks and balances, is, in a way, monolithic.
>>25260959>There is no society. Wasn't Margaret Thatcher the first own to come up with this nonsensical tak?
What the fuck is this? I have no idea what I'm reading or what's going on.
>>25258800I don't understand symbolism.
>>25256542The Dramatic Symphonies are more approachable. My edition (not this one) had some of his literary criticism essays on Schopenhauer in it. He wanted to write literature according to Schopenhauer's theory of music.
i still dont get how russia ended up with a city with a germanic/anglo name
>>25260912Peter's and following rulers' idea of modernization was forcing Russians to larp as Germans and also physically moving as many Germans and other western Europeans as possible into Russia. Almost all Russian navy related terms are direct transliteration of Dutch words.
>>25251953Russian Ulysses
Harriet Monroe EditionTalk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique othersPrevious thread >>25202370
>>25260233yeah okay but can you explain whyI'm ready to admit my ignorance. I know very little about poetryEliott's language is awkward and his poetry doesn't contain striking images or messages. I've only read his first book so maybe his good poems are elsewhere
Remembered this poem after I saw it surface on Twitter. I need to reread Donald Justice.
Larkin is just so good, anons
>>25260201Whenever I read his poetry I’m reminded of the smell of my great great grandfather’s house and it produces a kind of nostalgia in me.
>>25260941Larkin is absolutely the /lit/ poet.Complains about wageslavingComplains about not getting anyCompains about there not being any decent porn on TV after he went to all the trouble of buying oneComplains about niggers and commies ruining his countryComplains about getting oldRhymes and scansActually good
Just finished picrel and I have perfect comprehension, AMA.
>>25247741>And if yes, with what mindset?IJ only makes sense if you're a recovering addict from something or an obsessive about something, which is really the same thing.
>>25260804Hal is his own narrator after his mental breakdown. This is noted by his sections (including the opening chapter) being written in 1st person. The rest of the book for everyone is 3rd person. What this actually signifies, I don't know.
>>25259355The tapes exact whereabouts aren't know. There is probably only one master copy, there could be many many read-only copies. Whoever sent the medical attache a tape likely has a master, but there's competing theories on who that is. One of the kookier ones is that it's Orin who is sending out tapes, but why is not exactly clear.Jets likely indicated war with Canada is going on.>>25259361I can't, I didn't really understand this myself. >>25259383Intentionally ambiguous. You can't know.
>>25259361Forgot this one, meant to give it its own post because it can't be answered simply, and then I forgot. It is Himself trying to explain his life, he sees the young Himself in Hal and sees his mother in Avril and believes he married his mother and is raising Himself. He is sort of right but a drunk and not really thinking straight; he thinks Hal does not speak which is sort of true in that Hal doesn't say anything meaningful, just performs and meets expectations which is quite different from the way he didn't speak when he was Hal's age and Himself did not meet expectations, he had real interests and passions. He thinks this is the fault of his mother/Avril (the moms, which is not to say where the family nickname came from, just the literary device, or part of it at least) because Avril rewards Hal for every little thing but this is different from his mother who supported his interests instead of creating them through a reward loop and weird manipulation imposing her own interests on him. But he doesn't think this is intentional on their part and is trying to figure out why they do it. What Himself can't see are the fathers, Himself. It is no accident that Himself starts declining when he takes up his father's passions and when does, he essentially abandons Hal to Avril which creates the problems he sees in Hal, his own absence, he does not balance out Avril's influence. He also can not see that it is not his mother that he married but Himself, both Himself and Avril see being good parents as being the sort of parent they wish they had, they never consider what a good parent would be in context of their children and what their children need. This sort of worked until Himself become his father and ceased being a father, ceased balancing the scales. It is mostly the Wild Turkey and probably DFW trying to make this as complicated as possible because it is very complex, he was fighting it being reduced to some banality such boys need their fathers and girls need their mothers, it is that Avril needed Himself and Himself needed Avril; a single parent is one thing but a vestigial parent is a whole nother matter. The whole mother death cosmology is only a small portion of the picture and it is filtered through Wild Turkey.
>>25260804It is not a case of possible narrators or figuring out if the narrator is one of the characters, he provides alternatives as a way to explore the topic with more the depth; the alternative narrators (or the narrator) are not needed for understanding, they just give you a bit more. Getting the full picture can only be done through narrator as narrator, which is not to say the narrator is just a narrator, he is treated as a character giving us yet another layer and another bit of exposition on theme. The narrator is different than all the other characters, we understand him solely through his performance as a narrator which changes drastically over the course of the novel. Easiest way to see the change in the narrator is by comparing the early end notes to the late end notes, the quality of the information given is very different with many of the later ones providing no useful information. Hal is the only other character that I can find that works as narrator and is quite interesting, even comes with a criticism of Pynchon. Maybe tomorrow I will go into it in depth, falling asleep.
What was the last book that had this effect on you?
>>25244843I have never bawled like that at a book, but I did get teary-eyed by the end of Don Quixote. I really didn't want him to die and the hijinks to end
>>25258714Nice loaded question, retard. you should work for MSNBC
>>25244936Which part exactly?
>>25251631Backlash to instagram and video pornography. Alienation and guarding of their bodies from by the risk they will be profaned by the ubiquitous pornographic gaze, both of literal porn and social media as pornography.Don't ask me to square this with the skin tight bimbo outfits they all wear to the gym now.
>>25244945>>25251212>>25254995I'm merely a regular gooner rather than a world class turbo-gooner. I don't even know what ntr and nts are at all. What do these letters mean?
mogs blood redditian
>>25259299>literally projecting
>>25252977Definately one of Faulkner's underrated novels. I'm not sure I see the connection to blood meridian.
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>>25253875You're mulatto?
>>25259377No I’m middle easterner in Europe.
Books that help you stop fearing the future and learn to trust God's plan?
Exodus
>>25249970Occasions. But don’t expect the doings of God to get you an adequate concept of Him.
>>25249539What "plan"? Nothing ever fucking happens.
