What do you think of Beowulf? How does it compare to other old poems and legends and myths?
>>25507607>and the Odyssey a tale of a complicated manEmily Wilson already did.
>>25511118It's not a translation issue.>þæt wæs an foran ealdgestreona; ecg wæs iren, atertanum fah, ahyrded heaþoswate; næfre hit æt hilde ne swac manna ængum þara þe hit mid mundum bewand, se ðe gryresiðas gegan dorste, folcstede fara; næs þæt forma sið þæt hit ellenweorc æfnan scolde.>Wearp ða wundenmæl wrættum gebunden yrre oretta, þæt hit on eorðan læg, stið ond stylecg; strenge getruwode, mundgripe mægenes.Hrunting is variously described as iron and steel.
>>25506847I reckon it's only valued because it's what survived.Imagine all the treasures we lost with the dissolution of the monasteries in England and Scotland, FUUUUARK
>>25508607>christian poemCope.Also what's based about making the epic hero a liar and pathetic scumbag?
>>25510473If I'm not mistaken, the dragon wasn't fire breathing and spat venom instead.
>protagonist and Crake casually watching child porn when they were pre-teensWhat the fuck was that all about? Does Artwood genuinelly think men are like this?? People want to see naked adults when they are developing their sexuality, not people younger then them.
The second chapter of Welcome to the NHK is about the protagonist getting addicted to foreign child pornography
>>25510360>I do not rate Canadian works highl--
>>25510568That's just everyday Japanese life
Books that should never have become trilogies
>>25506806Atwood is such a fucking hack who’s held up as this great writer solely because she has a pussy. Outside the small handful of like 5 women in human history who had any literary talent the pickings are very slim
"Just Be Yourself" editionPrevious:>>25500179/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ RESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvC Please limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Discuss the written works below for practice; contribute, and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Expect critique, not praise.Shitposters should be ignored and reported.>Beginner guides on writing:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Good OP. Competently done.
>>25512914That's mee-TB
>>25512917Just one more example of why NJB hating you is actually a feather in your cap.
Nuke the birthplace of Robert FrostDesecrate the grave of Robert FrostBurn the unpublished works of Robert Frosthttps://rentry.org/a4w7k326
The sky above the city was the color of television, set to no input. Harsh blue light covered the high-rises that fought for space under the dome, steel trees struggling to keep above the jungle growth. People had stopped in the street and were looking up. It had been a few months since this many of the sky-screens had broken at once. Every so often, one or two panels would break and go shine bright blue, the default color of maintenance required. People would call them blue stars, though no one alive could remember what real stars looked like outside of the movies. It was more than a pin point this time. It was a huge section of the roof, blindingly blue against the rest of the dome tuned to midnight clouds.Someone in the dome control pulled the plug on the broken screens and the blue blinked out into pitch black, a black hole in the gray sky. People stared for a moment longer. Then, as if on cue, all started about their business again. The silence that had overtaken the crowd was replaced by the ever-present city murmur, like someone turning up the dial on a vintage radio. “Been gettin’ worse lately”“How many was that ya think? Couple dozen?”“Easily half a hun. Patch that looks big from down here has to be massive up there.”Ric was still looking up at the now turned-off patch of the dome’s roof. The black of the dead screens seemed to stand out from the rest, like they had been popped out by God’s thumb. The more he stared, the more it seemed to reach out to him, a black hole sucking him in. Vertigo shot up his spine and he felt his eyes go cross trying to focus on the black that had no point to hold onto. He flinched as he leaned into someone standing next in line to him.“Watch it!”
I just finished reading A Season in Hell, and I can't stop re-reading it to enjoy the sheer artistry in it. I want to ask if there are any other prose poets as good as Arthur Rimbaud. I'd prefer prose poems that lean heavily toward the poem side of things, not just authors with a poetic writing style, though if options are thin, that's fine too.
>>25509788Clark Ashton Smith
>>25511006You think so? I loved the imagery and the strange, ambiguous sentence structure.
>>25509828So you're basically saying that OP should learn French?
>>25511615That's where the poème en prose originated
Cruz e Sousa (yeah, learn Portuguese so you can read him).
I just started this today and binge read the first 11 pages in one sittingWhat am I in for? Should I like it or hate it?
>>25512173I don't know, haven't read it
>>25512173I enjoyed it a lot. Great plot and characters.
one of those rare books that evokes the feeling that it contains the stuff of life
I'm not wasting years of my life to become fluent in a language I don't even hear spoken around me on a daily basis just to read a fucking book. Translations are FINE.
>>25512289I'm glad I don't live in whatever shithole it is you live in.
>>25512294nyc metro area son, i also hear spanish obv.
>>25512295I'd feel sorry for you but mutts brought it on themselves.
>>25511978>Translations are FINE.If you‘re okay with your understanding capping at the B-/C+ level. There are many things for which I have a passing interest and this statement thereby applies to me.Oh, and obviously this goes exclusively for prose because the idea that most poetry has ever been handled and transformed by an writer whose skill holds par with the source material is retarded on the face of it.
>>25512296t. totally unfamiliar with NYC
your thoughts on e-readers? It seemed extremely appealing to me because of being able to get free online books.Then I considered that it's probably all loaded with viruses, trojan horses, pegasus and other weird shit.In the end I'm cancelling my order for an e-reader and sticking to physical books, can't be too safe nowadays
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>>25512077are you crazy? let me guess, a boox?i couldnt even justify buying one for $150
>>25511099Got one many years ago. Barely used it. Now it's in a self-storage unit and I don't miss it. Nice idea but ultimately pretty useless. They're laggy. They have residue on the screen from previous pages. You can't easily look up words and wikipedia etc. Also only brought it with me and used it on the bus for a little while, then I never had it with me because I wasn't riding the bus and wasn't using a backpack. If you're sitting on the bus or train for long commutes and only look up stuff rarely they might be good. But it's also just for epubs. They suck for pdf's, just forget it. Of course they might have gotten better.
i want a 10 inch one for manga but they cost too much for no reason
I have a theory that Xteink>Kindle because the less wide a page is, the easier it actually is to read, and reading fast is actually about reading with as little strain and as much flow and seamlessness as possible over actually reading "quickly"
Anybody here have kids or relatives that are kids that enjoy reading?I want my kids to actively enjoy reading much more than I did.Just wondering if there is anything I can do to encourage this?>reading to them before bed when they are super young>encouraging them to read>reading to them as babies>Actively reading in my free time to encourage a reading environment>Using Audiobooks/books for car ridesI was also thinking of having a requirement to read at least an hour a day but I worry it will push them away.Of course not all kids will enjoy it, such as those with severe learning disabilities that may become frustrated with struggling with reading.
>>25498503That's complete and total nonsense. If what you're saying is true than no indian who had a smartphone put in their hand would be able to figure out how to use it. Obviously, that isn't true, because we've ***already made the technology as easy and intuitive and accessible to use as humanly conceivable*** and it hasn't stopped the low-IQ masses from participating.Whatever "tech illiteracy" you're implying isn't a thing. If you're going to talk about the finer technical points, like how actual internet privacy works, what IP addresses do and don't do, device storage, sandboxing, network protocols, CPUs and registers and low level assembly/machine code, etc etc etc, clearly ***none of the people who have smartphones thrust in their hands from infancy*** have learned any of that, either. The only people who understand such things are those who have a deep desire to learn about them, which historically was often stoked by encountering limitations in what is/was possible to do with technology, not having infinite effortless access to it that didn't require them to think. And we are potentially facing a growing crisis of that now as the technology remains so accessible and no one HAS to think, just consume and do what the screen tells them they're allowed to do.In short, your entire claim is retarded no matter which way you slice it, and is in fact the opposite of true.
>>25512337>>25512399>be rich >be rich >be rich
>>25512462are you fucking retardedgod, what a resentful little twerp you areit's not hard to go to a place where there's fucking grasschrissake>waaah i don't have money so i can't do anything, i'm just going to be a little bitch and spend all my time on my SMARTPHONE
>>25498573>your children will want to read more when they know more than one languagewtf is this cope lol. if they don't want to read in their mother tongue why would they read more after making the effort to learn another language
>>25512955You don't type like someone who's ever had children.
>It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life—daily and hourly. Our answer must consist, not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual.Fuck, now I have to clean my room. Books to refute that quote?
>>25508707Why would you want to refute that? Clean your room and you will feel better, don’t fight peace and happiness.
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>>25508904I'm glad I'm not the only one. I mean if it gives people hope, fine, but it's not saying anything.
>>25511157>Nobody is risking extreme torture, man. The alleged immortal soul can be demonstrably destroyed or changed forever by a good blow to the head, an unlucky infection, some stripped axons, a concoction of chemicals, or brief oxygen deprivation.So? I wasn't making the point for eternal hell, necessarily. Just that dying is a big change, and there's a lot that could suck about it.>Put away your supernatural BDSM fanfics and put some effort into making your life better, because yes, that's all the life you're ever going to get.Maybe? For now, there's no viable alternative, precisely because of the potential BDSM fanfic cases. You're goofy or materially lucky if you're really here because you want to be. Like, oh man! I can't wait to drink water every 6 hours, just so I can drop it out of my penis, just so I can drink more fucking water! I just can't contain myself waiting to brush my teeth for the umpteenth time or else they fall out! I can't wait for them to fall out anyway! I LOVE that my dick might just stop working and I'll lose all my muscle, or I'll just drop dead on the ground in excruciating pain for no good reason at all!
>>25508707life of pi for jews
Your excuse for not reading the MrBeat book co-written with James Patterson?
>>25511424Neither one of those niggas contributed a single sentence to the book
>>25511874>totwo*
>>25511870mr beat is based af kys
>>25511870I love Mr. Beat
>>25511424Mr. Breast give me $100 and Mr. Beast Burger>>25512903Mr. Beast give me $100 and Mr. Beast Buger
I downloaded a bunch of free ebooks from a dodgy looking website (https://dokumen.pub/) and now I have trouble sleeping at night, worried that my computer may be compromised with malware, viruses, pegasus etceteraWhat do? Sell it and buy a new one? Or would a reinstall of my OS (fedora) be sufficient?I regret it so much, free stuff is not worth it.
>>25512601I recognized the .chm file format. It's Microsoft's "compiled HTML" format. Not sure what your point is.
>>25510977That's the punishment you deserve for breaking the LORD's law.
>>25510977>I downloaded a bunch of free ebooks from a dodgy looking websiteI bought a bunch of expensive books from Amazon. We are not the same.
>>25510977Of course. There's always a catch, isn't there? Always some little 'gotcha' behind free stuff. After all, they wouldn't give it away for free unless there was something in it for them. The terrifying truth about malware is that you'll never know with some of the more sophisticated viruses and worms they are putting out, they can't be detected by man or machine, but they will silently extract your data and keystrokes nontheless, and by the time the critical moments have arrived, you can do nothing. And they won't stop at just your PC, they can even burrow their way from your PC to any network you connect to such as your home network or workplace network, and perform their sick little tricks over the network topology. It would be best to buy all new equipment and be more careful in the future. God be with you.
>>25512631Copyright isn't the Lord's law, it's man's law. The term of protection was originally 17 years from the date of first publication, but thanks to Disney's well-funded lawyers, it's now the life of the author plus 70 years. This is blatant regulatory capture, and I will not respect such obvious corruption.
YOOOOOO WASSUP MHY PEOPLE, Aren't you tired of the same old indie stories—the ones with barely any narrative or world-building coherence, and wanna hear actual dialogues without ripping your ears off? Well, this is the exact opposite: immerse yourself in a sci-fi political light novel that chronicles the journey of self-discovery, moving away from radical thinking to embrace a world of rich nuance.https://www.wattpad.com/story/415045117-nost-shock
I'm going to pretend this is really good performance art
>>25512861naah bro you're looking at the NEXT hit, dont treat it like garbage, cause YOURE GARBAGE...jk btw
I have smut and erotica fatigue. Why can't foids read good literature?
>>25507498>I have fatigue for the perceived taste of a whole demographic that doesn't include meDo moids really....?
>>25510699And I would be correct. Even the few “classics” women read suck.
MINOTAUR COCK
>>25507498this is why nobody can take low level men seriously. they're obsessed with shit that doesn't concern them.
>>25512059Yeah foids would NEVER become obsessed over shit that doesn’t concern them amirite
Asking because of it mentioning "libidinal pornutopia"
I do not know why the website uploaded the image upside down
>>255127904chan doesn't re-orient your photos in-app as a result of metadata. what you're seeing is your photo as it really exists. 4chan is the truth, and your phone is the lie.
It's a good book>libidinal pornutopiaThis is an accurate description of what the book tries to portray, yes (pornography, conceived broadly, isn't just videos of people having sex)>>25512790How have you never heard of a "screenshot" lmfao
>>25512815It's a photo I took from my tablet
>>25512898Oh you're being funni funni funni okay sorry didn't realize
Have you ever read a book that deal with 4chan and 4chan culture?
>>25510812Kind of obliquely related, but there's a best-of compilation of writing that /lit/ published in a magazine:https://the-best-of-amp.github.io/Besides the intro, there's nothing inside it close to an essay on 4chan (or /lit/) culture, but there's a feel for the board at the time.There's also an article on the /lit/ wiki with all the old /lit/ collab projects, which are again only obliquely related to what you want, but there are also further articles linked there that discuss /lit/ from the outside, specifically about the Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra:https://www.apod.li/the-legacy-of-totalitarianism-in-a-tundraPDFs are linked for just about everything too. These kinds of projects are their own micocosm on the board, but to me seem representative.https://lit.trainroll.xyz/wiki/Collaborative_WorksAs the guy who wrote the article (and made the aforementioned compilation (and wrote its introduction)), I don't think there's exactly a coherent throughline between all these projects, but you get a feel for things if you dig through them and the discussions about them. Each one is a slice of the board at that time. I spent a lot of time on the archives and it was funny to see similar discussions happening about disparate projects that were years apart and seemingly completely disconnected in terms of the people involved.
>>25512013I will be screenshotting this message because this look interesting and dope
>>25510827I enjoy Scootertrix's stuff.
>>25512048Anthropology of /lit/ aside, there are some very good pieces of writing in that compilation. There's the PDF on the first site linked, and all the stories (but one) are also on the site; it's also in print. Pic related is a short one I quite like and which captures something of the spirit of browsing odd corners of the internet.One of the /lit/ magazines, Lit Quarterly, actually paid for each accepted story. Something like $100 I think. Most weren't anywhere near that serious, but the variety is pretty neat, and there's been nearly a continuous stream of magazines or similar projects on /lit/ since its genesis.
Does 'enjoy the decline' by Aaron Clarey fall into this category at all?
