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Are there any far-right female writers?
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>>23818244
Is she really far-right though? I couldn't make it through her stuff.
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>>23812885
Cristina Campo
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>>23818367
She was definitely right wing, how far right is a good question. She did support the nationalist in the Spanish Civil War and said of nice things about Petain after WWII.
Her politics were pretty surprising to me, and I think people don’t talk about them (outside of the feminism and lesbianism) because it would make the lesbians who champion her today uncomfortable.
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>>23812885
Ellen Forest
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Taylor Caldwell

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What defines a top tier plot twist and how do you make one?

Talking specifically about genre fiction.
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>>23817217
They're great when they make you reevaluate everything on a reread. A seemingly innocuous statement is suddenly transformed into something completely different if you know the twist. It also has to be well-foreshadowed.
I don't read much genre fiction, so I'm going to list examples from other mediums. NieR Gestalt makes you reevaluate the entire journey and how you view everyone from your allies to enemies. Zero Escape: 999 cleverly makes use of the video game medium itself. Black Souls 1+2 manages to pull off a wild plot twist twice, both plot twists making perfect sense in retrospect with copious foreshadowing.
Old Boy is a famous example. For the life of me I cannot remember what the plot twist in Gone Girl was, but I remember my high school self being very impressed, I think it's based on a book too. The Twilight Zone and early Black Mirror consistently pull off great endings, some of them plot twists, some of them not.

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Lolita. Gotta reread it, I probably missed a lot of subtle clues pointing to it.
Savage Detectives has a plot twist in part 3, which is doubly effective since it chronologically happens near the beginning of the story - 1976. It completely reshapes how you view part 2 (which takes place between 1976-1996).
Some classics also attempt to do "hidden" plot twists, as in you may read the entire thing and not realise there was a twist at all. Confidence-Man by Melville and The Good Soldier by FMF do this. Although they sort of make you realise this through the use of structure and language, rather than plot.
There are also ambiguous twists, like in Manuscript Found in Saragossa, where you don't even know whether the twist is real or just another layer of deception.
Faust part 2's ending also comes as a sort of surprise for some (including Mephisto), since Faust never truly repents, he stays committed to his goal from start to finish, hurting innocents like Baucis and Philemon in the process.
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Proper outlining. That's it
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>>23817283
Yes

To those who read it: it is a twist and you know it. You thought he was allucinating or exageratting when he described it.
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>>23817283
The secret marriage in Jane Eyre.
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Literary fiction is just the "drama" genre.

Why do people here malign this man as totally worthless? Like many people with social media, he holds forth on subjects that he probably ought not to, but his YouTube lectures while he was a professor are good compared to the output of nearly all other psychology professors. The views he is best known for ("Clean your room") are dismissed out of hand by glib pseuds, it's actually profoundly wise. If stated in another way, such as in Huxley's "The Devils of Loudun" it seems clear that the mass of pseuds here would all nod in agreement at this sage commentary.

>Theologians, I repeat, have carefully guarded against Manichaean dualism, but, at all times, all too many Christians have behaved as though the devil were a First Principle, on the same footing as God. They have paid more attention to evil and the problem of its eradications than to good and the methods by which individual goodness may be deepened, and the sum of goodness increased. The effects which follow too constant and intense a concentration upon evil are always disastrous. Those who crusade, not for God in themselves, but against the devil in others, never succeed in making the world better, but leave it either as it was, or sometimes even perceptibly worse than it was, before the crusade began. By thinking primarily of evil we tend, however excellent our intentions, to create occasions for evil to manifest itself.
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i think you've kinda answered your own question

i was into him for a while when he first got big, mainly cos of his lectures on psychoanalysis, religion and literature, which i was getting into at the time, as well as making some good criticisms of contemporary culture

beyond that though he's got high on his own supply of fame and wasted his potential in getting lost in culture wars bullshit and conservative hangups with progressive identity politics and general radlibs

there isn't a single contemporary reactionary commentator who i find to be worth their salt, but then again i am on the far left, albeit post-left i guess (the stuff he hates, yet give an answer and analysis to the roots of issues in contemporary society)
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>>23816315
>The one thing just about everyone who is poor, homeless, depressed, addicted, an incel or a NEET have in common is that they blame their parents, the government, capitalism, immigrants, wypipo or the jews for it, and their refusal to think about what they themselves could do to change things is what keeps them in those circumstances.
Sure, within circumstance, (and not lump assumption, as there is quite literally no other way for you to reliably substantiate this sort of claim) but you and every other reactionary "conservative" seem to act as if the systemic causes of these issues in the individual do not exist, have no true affect or are necessarily ineffable at the risk of sacrificing this "self-accountablility" or that merely by being afflicted with these issues it becomes the exclusive response to do so.

I do not disagree with the general sentiment of what Peterson is saying, and I don't believe that most people would either, it's just that for him where there is and could be genuine sage advice there is a mess of vindictive nonsense and complete bullshit to accompany it.
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>>23813933
Nah he's an unintentionally funny charlatan
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>/lit/ at it again with the 'clean your room' line
WE GET IT BROS; YOU DONT LIKE YOUR PARENTS AND YOU HATE YOURSELF
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>>23815907
The only solid thing he was onto was that young men are being neglected by the modern world and the consequences are being felt throughout human society. He came to this conclusion by doing the grunt work of psychology for however many years that he did it, 15 or somesuch.
As soon as he veered off of this good and important point and started commentating on his personal politics, and then theorycrafting his religious belief and metaphysics he lost any coherency with the public.
"Young men are suffering and we need to help them for our sake as well as theirs" is an easy point to make, the rest is disorganized yammering based on less than 15 years(or however many it was) of grunt work.
He was given his soap box and he was too reticent to let go of it, now we have another feature for the circus.

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>According to Cicero (Letters to Atticus XIII xix 4), Aristotle appeared as the main speaker in his own dialogues.
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>>23818983
>If it’s not an iPhone, that gives most women under 30 the ick
>most women
Good. Quality over quantity.
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>>23819156
you’d be shooting for fat chicks which are quantatively larger
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>>23818983
My current wife had an iphone and hated it and wanted an android, like me.
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>>23818983
who the fuck cares what women think

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In The Metamorphosis, why does Grete Samsa's attitude change towards her brother?
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>>23817732
Tending to sickoids do be like that
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In The Metamorphosis, Grete Samsa’s attitude towards her brother Gregor undergoes a profound transformation. Initially, she is sympathetic and takes on the role of caretaker after his metamorphosis into an insect. She brings him food and shows some concern for his well-being, as if clinging to the hope that Gregor, her brother, still exists beneath his monstrous exterior.

However, over time, the strain of caring for Gregor, combined with the family's worsening financial situation, causes her sympathy to fade. Grete’s initial compassion turns to frustration and resentment as Gregor’s presence becomes more of a burden. She begins to see him not as her brother but as a "thing" that is causing harm to the family. This shift reflects her internal conflict: the emotional bond she once had with Gregor weakens under the weight of practical concerns and social pressures.

Her final break with Gregor happens when she declares that they must get rid of him. Grete’s transformation highlights the dehumanization Gregor faces—not only as a creature but as a family member. Her change in attitude symbolizes the family's inability to reconcile their love for Gregor with the alien and repellent form he has taken on, leading to his ultimate isolation and demise.
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>>23817698
She tried to nurse him up as then he could start providing once more. When she realized he was beyond the pale, he was but an icky dependency.
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Wasn't the whole point of this retarded tale that society values you only for material trash and not for who you're? I don't know, existentialism is such a meme movement.
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When someone is seriously ill and requires constant care, it takes serious moral fibre to be the one doing this for them every single day without coming to hate that you need to do it, which becomes resentment for them. I'm not talking about the love of your live, or a parent or sibling or best friend you're joined at the soul with and can't imagine life without, but just a friend or relative you care for or even truly love. You're unlikely to have what it takes to sacrifice all your free time to look after them day in and day out and stay upbeat and diligent about it, especially if you have to deal with disgusting and disturbing things. This doesn't make you a bad person either, just a completely normal one.

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Has anyone read this? Worth it or no?
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You should read this if you plan to read his other books. Joseph is my fav
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>>23816768
To be fair it's only because they're transposing their own experiences onto their boys, only beautified.

Why not? Have you read Tonion Kreuger ( I think)? It's Mann's literally me short story where he pines after a handsome blond boy who slays pussy like mad.
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>>23813067
I found it a comfy read. It's mostly just a low key family drama about life struggles, financial struggles, trying to find one's place and fit in with the family, etc. Certain parts are definitely a lot better than other parts, but I'd say it's worth the read.
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>>23813098
Joseph is his best, though Doctor Faustus is a favorite of mine. Buddenbrooks is the best entry into Mann, but definitely not better than all the novels he wrote afterwards.
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>>23813067

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Post your handwriting.
Also calligraphy thread.
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>>23815946
Thanks, I appreciate it
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>>23815946
Check out iampeth.com, they have a free library full of resources.
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>>23815845
https://handwritingsuccess.com/
I got the iPad app since I already have an iPad and Pencil
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>>23809601
>For me it was 90% using the right gear.
as an A/V tech maybe it's better that I stay away from this hobby
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>>23816440
>here's your workbook, bro
great link honestly. Thanks

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Baudelaire:
>I found in those of his works which are translated, particularly in Tannhäuser, Lohengrin and the Flying Dutchman, an excellent method of construction, a spirit of order and division which recalls the architecture of ancient tragedies.

Whitman:
>I am again consumed with regret for knowing I have never had a chance to hear the wonderful operas. I say 'wonderful' because I feel that they are constructed on my lines—attach themselves to the same theories of art that have been responsible for Leaves of Grass.

Villiers de l'Isle-Adam:
>He is the very man of whom we have dreamed; he is a genius such as appears upon the earth once every thousand years.

Nietzsche:
>Through Wagner modernity speaks her most intimate language: it conceals neither its good nor its evil: it has thrown off all shame. And, conversely, one has almost calculated the whole of the value of modernity once one is clear concerning what is good and evil in Wagner.

Mallarme:
>Oh strange defiance hurled at poets by him who has usurped their duty with the most open and splendid audacity: Richard Wagner!


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>>23812796
What is the point of reading opera librettoes?
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>>23812796
No
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>>23812796
>Through Wagner modernity speaks
Hard fucking pass in that case.
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>>23812796
I wanted to but I can't find his works in my country in my language or in English.
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>>23813320
Do you have links to these?

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literature on incest?
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>>23816884
Ah yeah I fogot the coffin threads on /v/, good catch.
I think /sci/ has occasional threads about inbreeding/outbreeding but that's not exactly incest

Only /b/ and /gif/ vaguely approach the sheer degeneracy of reddit subs like incestconfessions and out of the two I trust testimonies from 4chan more due to the only feedback being (You)s
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>>23814343
Interesting story OP, thank you for posting.
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That one Jean Cocteau film which us perhaps a book
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>>23814343
Technically Charles Darwin since he discovered it was a problem while fucking his cousin.
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>>23817059
Les Enfants Terribles

I mentioned it already and it isn't even a Cocteau film. Cocteau wrote the book but the film is by Jean Pierre Melville who is better known for making gangster flicks with Belmondo and Delon.

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What does /lit/ think of Neuromancer by William Gibson?
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his guitars are better than his books
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>>23817259
Ah I get what you mean... and, I wouldn't hate that. Or maybe I would. Ready Player One's exposition was tortuous.
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imagine being a /lit/ard lmao
getting filtered by the bible of the 21st century
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>>23809305
>Does understand technology that doesn't exist yet

Sci-FI is essentially fantasy but instead of it just works it's based on "They found out a way of this working and here is the possibilities"
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>>23809106
Spawning a movement doesn't make you a genius.

And I think I can do it.
I'm not well-read by any means. I started reading a few years ago.
I've been thinking so much about it that I'm considering renting a place so I can be alone with my thoughts and books. I'd read way more and practice way more. So by the age of 40, less than 20 years from now, I'd be smart enough to write a good book.

Anyone else thinking of becoming a writer here?
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>>23819130
>t. already lost but definitely not sour grapes
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>>23819135
LMAO
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>>23819154
>>23818960
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>>23819159
no u
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>>23819162
>trooncase
Pseud.

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SAARS give me some good books on indian kundalini yoga or chakra related information. I find that stuff so fascinating desu

pls no racism, no im not indian, yes i get you all hate pajeets and its probably warranted pls
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>>23817285
you forgto:
>inb4 shit in streets
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>>23817285
Too niche. You’re not going to find a kundalini practitioner on /lit/. Also, I’m sure it’s potentially not safe without an expert. My ex used to practice it and she would swear that she would see all kinds of colours and auras and shit but even she agreed that it messed with her head.
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“The Serpent Power: The Secrets of Tantric and Shaktic Yoga”, by Sir John Woodroffe, or pen-name Arthur Avalon, is a great work that gets into it.

A certain Swami Muktananda also was an important figure in popularizing teachings on Kundalini Shakti in the West, and made some very good English-language books that work as primers on it. However, he himself was punished with a stroke for giving out Kundalini Shaktipat too indiscriminately and to the wrong people, basically any interested Westerner who came and paid a fee. Also, he tried to keep his fucking of certain lady disciples private and secret, including of some rather young women, and also some who claimed he came on very aggressively to them, which was another failing. He should’ve just been more open about the fact that he was fucking women as a Tantrika, instead of being all secretive about it. Despite his failings, the intellectual, scholarly, and experiential knowledge he has is top-notch, largely as derived from his even greater and more morally impeccable guru, Bhagwan Nityananda, with books by his original guru or about him being worth looking into.

Some good primers by Swami Muktananda on Kundalini and related teachings are:
-I Am that: The Science of Hamsa from the Vijnana Bhairava
-Play of Consciousness: A Spiritual Autobiography
-Kundalini: The Secret of Life

An even more relatively innocent and uncontroversial teacher and writer on it was Gopi Krishna, a somewhat unique case in that he was self-initiated; he simply did meditation on his own time, including visualizing a ten-thousand petalled lotus at the top of his head (as the Sahasrara chakra is depicted). At 34, after years of this, he had an astounding awakening of Kundalini, with subsequent experiences ranging from the hellish to the heavenly as he integrated it, and he then studied the phenomenon deeply and wrote many books on it. His books about Kundalini include:

-Kundalini: The Evolutionary Energy in Man
-Higher Consciousness: The Evolutionary Thrust of Kundalini
-The Awakening of Kundalini
-The Riddle of Consciousness

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>>23817598
true it does seem spooky for some reason desu
>>23818613
huge thanks anon will check these out

What are some of the worst written books of all time?
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>>23818820
So, you meant The Mysteries of Udolpho, then?
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The Thomas Berryman Number. It's Patterson’s debut novel, he's written plenty of slop but this one is a true dud.
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>>23817030
These.
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>>23817037
Tarantino is one of the best directors in the sense that Stephen King is one of the best writers.
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>>23817030
The Plot Against America. I went into it thinking it'd be about Nazis taking over America. Instead, I read the ramblings and "experienced" the angst of a retarded Jewish teenager. I should've read "The Man in the High Castle" instead.

What are some books that showcase urban decay?
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>>23817792
Race War in High School
The Slaughter of Cities
The Geography of Nowhere
The Power Broker
The Life and Death of Great American Cities
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High Rise
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Suttree by Cormac McCarthy if you consider "building an interstate which forever changes a city" as urban decay. McCarthy would certainly consider it as the decaying of the Knoxville he knew.

However, what you're looking for are Concrete by J.G. Ballard and High Rise by J.G. Ballard.
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>>23817816
Any JG Ballard for that matter
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Dhalgren by Samuel Delaney takes place in a mostly abandoned detroit-like city and has street gangs, buildings on fire, social deterioration, etc.

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>"realism"
>doesn't describe the mc taking a shit and wiping his ass
Yeah, OK. Sure, "Mr. Real"
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>>23819088
Those were its exact motives, you retard.
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>>23819093
Naturalism and modernism are distinct literary movements. Do you think Ezra Pound’s Cantos and Naked Lunch are Naturalist literature?
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>>23819088
(NTA) You are correct, but it does raise a fun contradiction in terms
>simple phrases telling the reader what happens in ways that assume a deep contextual knowledge of the setting and a flattening of any possible character
vs
>coordination of symbols that attempts to convey an accurate depiction of the reality of being a subject in a world
and the latter is treated as some CrAzY eXpErImEnT because it doesn't pretend that inner life is pasteboard animation, to the extent that anyone who imitates its methods a century later is still treated as pretentious
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>>23819101
>Naturalism and modernism are distinct literary movements
With the same objective: to get closer to real human experience.
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>>23819088
Joyce didn't set out to write a "modernist" novel, the label is one imposed by critics and theorists after the fact, and you are misunderstanding the nature of literature if you believe that "realism" and "modernism" are entirely distinct and mutually exclusive categories. Literary movements are not discrete categories, the postmodern is not clearly distinct from the modern, etc.. You can't separate Ulysses from the legacy and context of the realist novel, as part of Joyce's project in Ulysses is an attempt to push the realist novel to its limits -- the Ithaca chapter, for example, is an autistic categorisation of all the minute and mundane details of Bloom's life (essentially the "realistic autism" that >>23818429 jokingly suggests). Several chapters of Ulysses, including the Calypso chapter in which Bloom is described shitting, are parodies of previous naturalistic styles, parodies of realism. Modernism is in many ways born out of realism, not completely alien to it.


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