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>Pages of pointless blather
Really? The best science fiction book of the 20th century? I also noticed Heinlein didn't shy away from his self insert with the obese lard of an author being a millionaire and having his own harem.
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>>24187178
You are a reductionist with the sensibilities of a 7-16 year old boy.
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who has the copypasta review on this book
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>>24188184
>always accuse your opponents of that which you are doing
we could have discussed the relative merits of books, but you decided to be a textbook dismissive retard in >>24187108
please continue being a joke so that I may continue to laugh
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>>24186615
seethe
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>>24189007
I enjoyed the story why am I the one seething?

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Wolf Island is the 8th book in The Demonata series and came out in Ireland and England in October 2008 and it is once again narrated by Grubbs Grady. It's title was revealed by Darren Shan on his blog on April 24th, 2008. According to him, "it does exactly what it says on the tin".

Well, the same could be said about Vampire Mountain, surely some would argue. Still, as we not only rejoin Grubbs again but also know our dear Mr. Shan by now, let us see if he also has some more surprises waiting for us.

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Lord Loss I:
https://www.archived.moe/lit/thread/24004762/
Lord Loss II:
https://www.archived.moe/lit/thread/24017568/
Demon Thief I:
https://www.archived.moe/lit/thread/24021566/
Demon Thief II:
https://www.archived.moe/lit/thread/24032763/

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>>24188542
So what boards does Timas lurk on?
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>>24188485
Grubbs is already starting to lose his nerve. This isn't good, bros. Drop the Grubbscoin while it still has some worth!
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>>24188490
i'm gonna be pissed off if meera doesn't survive this series

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Free will does not exist.
As crazy as it is to think we are just passengers in our body with zero control, that is exactly what we are.
"I shall choose to write 8 hours a day to complete my novel" brain just goes nope, you don't have free will to make such choices.
"I will become attracted to fat women to make dating easier" lol no you won't says brain.

Every time you don't write you can see exactly what your no free will mind tries to say to trick you into thinking that was your choice. I was just too busy at work today, ill make up for it tomorrow, i have no good ideas today, I would rather play videogames.
But now look closer, look really really closely, say to your brain No I am going to write, and watch the little tricks it starts to play, how it actually starts sneaking in thoughts you didn't even have like they were your thoughts, how it starts suddenly triggering angry feelings or suddenly makes you feel super tired.
It plays dirty, it plays really dirty, even if you tell it no, I know you are being lazy, not me, it still tries to stop you writing. It always makes it seem like its your fault, and for some reason that actual real brain that makes all of your decisions hates writing.

I have a theory for this too, its trying to keep things hidden from you, its trying to keep the fact its making all the decisions secret, its trying to keep its real goals, plans, desires etc secret to your conscious. Once you write, it has to be careful and not slip up or let you see its true voice. That would be really hard work.

There is only one way to prove you have freewill, you have to write, and you have to really channel deep into your brain, you have to make the writing come from within, unfiltered, unplanned, unthought, unread, unconcious, just let it all flow out, just keep on doing this, and if you can truely truely let go, you might just get something from the part of your brain you cannot see into. You might just get something that shows you truely have no control over anything you do.
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>>24188613
>Who are 'you'?
The ego complex.
The ego has partial control over psychic and physical functions, but there are whole layers of unconscious activity that also have a say. This is why we often don't seem to be in control of our own actions, and lack the psychic "consensus" to do what we intend.
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>>24184589
why do you think Robert Saplosky, a jew no less, is one of their biggest proponents of determinism nowadays? really makes you think.
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>>24187490
The notion of the absolute is untenable.
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I don't believe in free will but it didn't stop me from completing my novel. I was bound to do it, I suppose. The fact that I completed this action in no way reflects any degree of control. It was fun though
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Uber cringe. Kill yourself

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>>24185955
>George Kennan
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>>24185955
peter dale scott
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Science of Coercion byChristopher Simpson
Cloak and Gown byRobin Winks
The Secret Team by Fletcher Prouty
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Post a painting get a book recommendation
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>>24188275
that sums up the events and players of this book
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>>24184565

Do you believe all reading is good reading? Furthermore, do you believe reading something like picrel is more wholesome than watching a great film, tv show, etc?
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>>24185129
The idea of a school for dragón ridees Is cool as fuck tho, k would love for someone else to take that concept and makes something good with iti would love a book with Panzer dragón and "a Mage of earthsea" vibes
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there's a lot of trash books but reading at least engages the imagination
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>>24187067
Yeah. Problem is how to grab the idea without it seeming completely derivative of the original
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>>24187067
>>24188597
Simple. Don't read the original so you can't copy it.
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>>24188599
Too late unfortunately

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Pick the top 3 writers from this image
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>>24186997
no
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>>24181911
Dostoevsky, Dostoevsky and Orwell
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>>24181911
Kafka, Dostoevsky and Woolf
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>>24181911
Tolstoy
Orwell
Kafka
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Shakespeare, Joyce and Kafka

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Got any Tolkien memes?
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>>24188355
You're entirely right but your typical normie is scared shitless of changing beliefs for some reason. Doesn't matter what it's about either, doesn't have to be metaphysics. A boomer will throw their hands up about computers being confusing and unusable instead of just learning to use the thing.
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>>24188720
Results
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>>24188751
Politics are like that too. There is this powerful drive to just "pick a team" and never change. It's an automatic giveaway that the person is an unthinking NPC.
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>>24188090
Why didn't the eagles fly the Ring to Mordor?
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>>24189027
The North Vietnamese Army's air defence system.

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According to the best books on philosophy that you've read, what is finite and infinite?
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>>24189013
According to gateless gate, "Is" neither is nor isn't. Finitude and infinitude are therefore contingent upon mu.

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>On seeing certain wealthy foreigners in Rome carrying puppies and young monkeys about in their bosoms and fondling them, Caesar asked, we are told, if the women in their country did not bear children, thus in right princely fashion rebuking those who squander on animals that proneness to love and loving affection which is ours by nature, and which is due only to our fellow-men.

From Plutarch’s Parallel Lives, opening to the Life of Pericles
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>>24184576
As far as I know not really. They were highly sought after imports from North Africa though.
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>>24184547
lol
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>>24184576
There's still macaques in Gibraltar from the Moors importing them. It's a flex pet, like how a lot of drug dealers want a tiger once they're balling. A lot of animals (and humans) got imported by wealthy Romans/merchants so they could be like
>See I can afford to have a monkey/lion/redhead walking around my estate
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>>24183927
Yes
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>>24184253
indeed
I shall become an Islamic Constatine and save the west

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Is there any point in reading
>Das Capital
>The Wealth of Nations
>The Theory of the Leisure Class
>Keynes' General Theory
>Euclid's Elements
>Newton's Principia
>De Motu Cordis
>Hippocrates, Galen, and Avicenna
>On the Origin of Species
>On the Revolutions of the Heavenly Spheres
And other landmarks of science, when modern textbooks have the same exact information but easier to read and learn?
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>>24186763
I accept your concession
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>>24185846
>>24186877
>Economics is different because its connection to ideology
>I would say for mathematics, biology, and astronomy, no - it is probably not worth reading those.

biology got a lot of connections to ideology, philosophy, politics and it deeply influence our views in the same way economics does, and just like marxism we have countless millions questioning "mainstream biology" and calling out biologists for not studying anything about creationism and not knowing enough to question it

I'm not saying that either communism nor capitalism are wrong but those are not the right arguments as they can be used by other "non mainstream" takes
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>>24184334
Because most degrees are about jobs. Jobs want you to plug and chug. Philosophy will never get you a job so they can instead try to help you understand something.
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>>24186880
Mathematics specifically is very useful. In my public school we didn't learn hardly anything about math; we learned arbitrary formulae and how to apply them. This is how you calculate a derivative and an integral and what those are. This is how you calculate the area of an ellipse.
It wasn't until I began reading more foundational mathematical texts that the underlying weave revealed itself to me. The relationships between pi, trigonometry, geometry, squares, and everything else became obvious. Why don't schools teach this? Because it's not on the test.
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>>24188793
The foundational texts don't even have problems to solve, they just want you to check out what they thought, school doesn't grade you on how well you can ponder

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I've been thinking about Plato not allowing playwrights in his utopia, because from what I understand mimesis (imitation of reality) is evil and distracts from truth.

I love art, movies and music, and this would be absurd to me. But lately I'm starting to see what he means.

Memes, and modern culture cannibalizing itself, have lead to such ugliness. It's the greatest evil of our modern day, shadows of shadows of shadows. I see where he was coming from.
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>>24181005
Plato's rejection of poetry had nothing to do with "memes and modern culture." It had to do with rejecting temporality. He was almost pathologically obsessed with immortality. In his Laws, he stated that gravestones must be made small, and corpses removed from sight quickly, and cemeteries must be built at a distance from civilization. Similarly, he wished to eliminate poetry from sight, because the process of both reading and writing poetry brings to mind the temporality of existence. Plato was a cowardly man who had nothing of the warrior-poet spirit in him.
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>>24187336
Exceedingly, unflinchingly, uncompromisingly based.
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>>24181005

mm
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>>24181005
According to René Girard, Plato wasn't actually against art but in fact the representation of the religious violence which society is ordered around.
His theory is that all societies developed the scapegoat mechanism - the ritual killing of one - as a means of relieving the tension caused by mimetic desire between people. The victim is thought of as being the cause of the society, and thus blamed and killed for it. But, as the victim was killed, the victim became divine in the eyes of the people, because the act of killing the victim actually ordered society. The people got an outlet for their aggression towards each other and thus the vicitim who was previously reviled becomes divine and seen as the source of the peace that is descended upon the community. The society is in a sense born again.
But, the scapegoating only works when the victim is really believed by the people to be guilty of the crimes they are accused of or/and actually divine. If say, the crops stop growing, which in turn starts to cause problems in society, the people in the society might start looking for a culprit. They sacrifice the victim and if the crops start growing next season for some unrelated reason the people will think that the sacrifice worked and even that the "god" had intended it.
But, if the crops don't start growing the people will have to look for other explanations as to why. If they previously had sincerely thought that the victim was divine, but turned not to be, that would put serious cracks into their perception of reality, causing further conflict.
The stories of these killings got turned into myth and in turn into the tragedy, and thus this mechanism has been hidden in the text. But it is still there once you analyze the texts, which Girard shows in his "The Scapegoat". Talking about these killings, even through mystique and drama of the theatre you run the risk of exposing this mechanic - the lie - that society was ordered around.
The writers of the Bible, conversely, chose to expose this mechanism instead of hiding it in myth. Already with the first murder it's clear in the text that the killing is displeasing to God, and this of course culminates in the crucifixion, the collective killing of Jesus, in which it is abundantly clear that the victim is not guilty of the crimes he's accused of.
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>>24181005
>Memes, and modern culture cannibalizing itself, have lead to such ugliness. It's the greatest evil of our modern day, shadows of shadows of shadows. I see where he was coming from.

I will shew you The Name of the Father's Endless Regression with my objet petit-a

This is the worst book l've ever read, awfully written with cringy middle school humor, fake anthropology (shares the Marxist thesis of primitive communism and matriarchy), fake biology (racism), and fake history (real Greeks were nothing like he describes and just copies the idealized version that XIX century
Germans had).
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>>24188917
why would you buy that slop?
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>>24188926
I pirated
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>>24188917
please stop making shill threads about this shitty book. sage and report

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is this fairy banging?
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>>24187791
no

Hello lit, here you can post

>what are you currently reading
>how much have you read so far
>what do you think of it
>what did you learn from it


lets hope to have a interesting and fruitful thread
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I like celines style a lot. which American writers were the most heavily influenced by celines style? pynchon uses a lot of ellipses like celine, but not really with the same intention . . .
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Philosophy of set theory
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>>24183577
>what are you currently reading
Pic related
>how much have you read so far
page 62
>what do you think of it
It's mid. I don't understand why it's considered a classic. Can someone please explain?
>what did you learn from it
Nothing
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>>24187685
I guess he was just feeling gloomy and moody when he wrote it. I prefer his essays
He is one of the rare optimistic philosophers, though its impossible to notice from that book
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>>24183577
no


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