Why does Holden Caulfield get so much hate? Isn't he typical of how a moody teenager acts? He clearly has PTSD and no adults in his life.
>>25338817>I'm autisticsay no more
>>25340169>almost everyone fucked back then unless you were horribly deformedGee, I wonder what changed.
>>25340033Well, you do sperg about something that doesn't exist. You're already too far gone.
>>25337022>People grew up, stopped being dorky virgins and developed frontal lobes.Actually, I imagine this is what was in Caulfield's future as well.
>>25338386Best post I have read in a whileSomething like this was floating around but I couldn't articulate it
Any literature on the subject of androgyny, especially its role in ancient times or cults. I recently read Plato's Symposium which has that famous passage about the original hermaphrodites, and some years ago I read Artaud's Heliogabalus which has numerous description of rituals regarding the unification of masculine and feminine principles, the role of Emperor Heliogabalus as its earthly manifestation, and things like that. Essays are good, I vaguely remember Mircea Eliade having something on the subject but I'm not sure. Works of fiction are good too; I guess something like Euripides' Bacchae would nicely fit the description.So, well, anything on the subject is appreciated
>>253455202 become 1, put it on, put it onI see the old Goat changed it's mind
>>25343261https://mangafire.to/read/mee-chan-no-himitsu.0mvjr/en/chapter-0
Elemire Zolla's The Androgyne
>>25343261>I vaguely remember Mircea Eliade having something on the subjectMephistopheles and the Androgyne.
>>25343261hippolytus
I think your interest in literature is performative. I think you're a performative reader. I've deemed you a performative reader.
>>25344951Brown
>>25346380of course i do, i read sartre
the truth is i have ADHD and get distracted to easy. I do like the books, at least in theory.
>>25343966>man does literally anything>some insufferable hag wanders over and dubs them a "bro"
>>25343831i stalled out halfway through normal people by rooney and i haven't read a page of anything since and that was like months ago. it's like when u have sex and it's so mid ur like fuck it i'm cool with just gooning.
I'm thinking on writing a choose your own adventure book based on the pure original concept of the backrooms. no levels, no lore. only six hundred million square miles of empty rooms randomly segmented. maybe some entities, maybe not. tons and tons of choices to be made: where to go, what to do, etc. what do you think? could it be a good idea? how would you keep the concept pure as the original post without making it boring? My intent is to be loyal to the first concept
>>25345422oh shitPISS HOUSErun with it
>>25345427I was sure I would still find people with negative iq
Wasn't the backrooms originally a play on a Borges story, and then popularized by House of Leaves, which ultimately is where internet meme culture picked up on the idea of an endless maze of rooms & hallways?
backrooms cover your ass concept? tf does that even mean dude
>>25344436Did you ever play the boring old text adventure games like colossal cave or zork?
Never buying used again.
Based and gay
>>25345176You're right, I'm a bad bitch
>>25344920My imaginary girlfriend is going to be toilet paper after I finish reading it.
>>25344807I've got this book but fuck I wish I had picrel edition but unfortunately it's long out of print.
>>25346312Hot
Γλαυκῶπις edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>25286593>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
Today I learned anceint Greece had turkeys.
>>25346278Which book is this?
>>25346520
>>25346011>>25346032Thanks, I guess I'll just settle on the intermediate one and move on with learning>>25346129You can figure stuff out from linguistics and writers/grammarians writing descriptions of speech
>>25346120text in one book, grammar in another. simple as. the textbook becomes a handy reader once the student has learned the grammar.
Los Arrecifes De Coral, is the first book released by famouse latin american author "Horacio Quiroga", which includes poems and some talesWHERE THE FUCK IS THIS BOOK???I'VE SEARCHED FOR IT FOR WEEKS, CONTACTING PEOPLE THAT MAY HAVE IT BUT NO NOTHING, NOWONE HAS THISIT'S NOT ON ANNA'SIT'S NOT ON ANY WEBSITE I LOOK FORIT IS NOT ANYWHERE!!I've found random parts and bits of it but not the whole thingI can barely find anything at all!!EVERYWHERE I LOOK ITS ONLY THE FUCKING TALES, I HAVE THE TALES, I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE TALES WHERE'S THE POEMS??????I HATE THIS!!!PLEASE, I BEG YOU, IF SOMEONE HAS THIS BOOK, PLEASE UPLOAD IT SOMEWHERE AND LET ME KNOW
I'm convinced Kafka was autistic.His nightmares weren't nightmares but his very reality living as an autist in a normie world. Trying his best to put in a way a normie could understand and emphasize with.Also, just look at him.
>>25346144Cool story, pinball wizard.
>>25346156jelly?
>>25346124interesting. Whenever I commit a faux pas (which is somewhat often) I always think of what the more appropriate thing to do or say would have been when I get home and have some time to myself. I like to think I have a pretty normal level of social understanding and that it's just my on the spot instincts that are pretty terrible. But maybe i just have autism lol
>>25343623Maiskolben!
>people coming to 4chan to argue that autistic people can't write or communicateI hope you see the irony here.
Okay unironically WHAT is this nigga even trying to say
>>25339835I'm from the future, Husserl and Kierkegaard become very philosophically relevant soon.
>>25346169Rocks and ideas don't have experiences. God does not exist
>>25346368I can believe this
>>25346691That's odd, I hear physics talk about "reference frames" of light and shit all the time or the geodesic of a particle...I guess I can't take any perspective other than my own because of this anon's conceptual limitations.
>>25346691here's a book.you might get some perspective.
Has anyone on here read The Sluts by Dennis Cooper? If so, what did you think?
>>25345210It’s great. I never want to read it ever again.>>25345595It isn’t as good as The Sluts but worth checking out Amygdalatropolis by BR Yeager. Pretty sure Dennis Cooper has spoken positively about his other book Negative Space on his blog too.
>lgbt literatureWould be nice if you could just put a disclaimer so I don't waste time looking up what your fagshit is about.
I don't read
Madonnapopstar12 spoke of this
Of course I've read The Sluts. I'm on 4chan, after all.
and fain in verse my love to show,That she, dear she, might take some pleasure of my pain,—Pleasure might cause her read, reading might make her know,Knowledge might pity win, and pity grace obtain,—I sought fit words to paint the blackest face of woe;Studying inventions fine her wits to entertain,Oft turning others' leaves, to see if thence would flowSome fresh and fruitful showers upon my sunburn'd brain.But words came halting forth, wanting invention's stay;Invention, Nature's child, fled step-dame Study's blows;And others' feet still seem'd but strangers in my way.Thus great with child to speak and helpless in my throes,Biting my truant pen, beating myself for spite,"Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write."
Based and gay op
Astrophel and Stella
>>25345879Not gay, you just know this guy was drowning in it.
>>25344233not reading all that in one sitting but the first two lines were lovely x
Books/stories I can recommend to my gamer friends to give them a hint that they're wasting their lives playing with overpriced action figures? I think Death of Ivan Illyich would be good, especially since it's a novella and not a longer book. I'm sure Infinite Jest is applicable but it's too long and I'm not trying to intimidate them.Short stories, novellas and novels are all welcome suggestions.
>>25344466>I eat ribeyes and bird shit, isn't that so cool and open-minded
>>25337530I don't understand why this would matter to anyone. Are you getting at the idea that men don't read fiction as much as women?
>>25337383The Kiss (1887) by Anton Chekovhttps://www.libraryofshortstories.com/onlinereader/the-kissIt's only like 5 pages long anyway, hopefully long enough for your friends to read so they can have some reality slapped into them.
>>25337383Oblomov, obviously.
>>25337383If they don't want to read, or change in general, there's no point.Wasting their lives is one thing and in that case you ought to be more concerned with getting them out of the house and from electronics in general. Overpriced action figures you're more walking a line because short of you paying for their gibs, it's their money to spend, and best you can do in that sense is chide them as to why they're broke, offering cheaper alternatives (books). If they're gamers you might decide to either avoid or lead their interest with a video essay of whatever book. Your milegae may vary but my friend sits through hours of video essays and yet can't hold a conversation with me on the book past the general plot.Reccommedation: The Stranger if you'd like to insult them.
Uqbar, Tlön editionFAQ:>What is worldbuilding?Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"Yes, of course you can!>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.Old thread: >>25285316
>>25346579>how do you handle LGBT individuals in your settings and stories"Here's John and his husband Jerry">what are some good ways to justify... being more accepting... besides having gay godsWhy would you have to justify it? It's just a feature of the world, just as murder is a feature of the world, just as childbirth is a feature of the world, just as water freezing into ice is a feature of the world. You don't need to have a GOD OF MURDER to "justify" why your writing features murder, or a GOD OF SOLID WATER to "justify" why your writing features ice.
>>25346477Because it's more interesting. There's a lot more you can do with a race instead of just an ethnicity or a nation. It's more interesting to me when customs and culture are informed not just by differences in geography and local history, but in fundamental differences in species, like lifespans, natural abilities, and magic.But that's not to say I ignore nations. There are many human nations in the setting I've been working on, though most are hardly developed in detail and exist as background flavor at the moment. And some of the nonhuman races have nations of their own, which of course do not encompass the entirety of their race. However I created a third way people become distinct, and that is their religion. In this setting people don't worship immaterial gods, they worship beings they can actually see, and who provide an immediate, tangible benefit to them. As such, "worship" ends up being more like oaths of fealty with supernatural enforcement and consequences. One of the consequences of binding yourself to a God is the nature of the blessing he bestows upon you, which can change the very essence of your being, transforming you into a new race. Sometimes this can result in two entirely different races becoming very similar to one another, physically, if they both pledge to the same deity.
>>25346579Most cultures would deem it 'sexual deviancy', and hetero-normative sexuality tends to be enforced by either law or tradition in most places. There's a few places where LGB people would be more at home, but these are seen as rather lawless areas or else are notorious as dens of vice and inequity. It's a bit different when you start talking about other races, though, that fall outside the bounds of human cultural norms. The few surviving elves don't procreate through sex, so for them it's a kind of atavistic bonding ritual where the genders of the participants don't really matter at all.There's a few races that have more insistent breeding cycles than humans do, so in their cultures there's a kind of suspension of propriety during the mating period. Sometimes same-sex couplings happen when everybody's all worked up. Nobody gets judged for it, even if it's not an ideal outcome. Sometimes it leads to surprising new relationships, sometimes it leads to recriminations. It depends on the specific situation.And then you have the type of species where breeding is so strictly controlled and regulated due to their physiology (and magic) that nothing like human relationships is really possible.
>>25346579I think I'd never write a gay character into a novel, I just write as though that stuff doesn't exist. People say to write what you want to read, and I never like seeing that in fiction.
>>25346579Some characters in my scifi setting are "work gay" since space habitats and stations tend to skew towards one gender depending on what industry they specialize in.
Modern psychology is fucked specifically because we are ignoring the unconscious. And by that, I mean both the individuals and the subject matter.
>>25345713>are you implying we only know the unconscious because others have talked about it, or have i misread you?Indeed. Otherwise you would be tied to your own experience and perspective, you wouldn't be able to figure out there are such things as archetypes.>& once it’s brought into consciousness it’s pretty well lost.Not entirely, but sure enough that's not the direct fact in itself. That's why one or two facts are nothing, but a repeating pattern does point at something existing behind it.
>>25345716see we’re already descending into the dull & dry-as-dust diagnostics from which nothing real can be brought back. if this is the extent your imagination stretches on the subject of … the god that made you (your true self), then irreparable damage has been done. the harder you try to be something the more comprehensively you fail at it. like the story of the philosophers stone: it only appears for the humble seeker, not the obsessive collector. god or the universe cleverly constructed things to be self-defeating to chase. the more you fetishise it, the more you distort it.
>>25345721I only see you fetishizing it here. I'm treating it as a fact of life, like the fact man drinks water.
>>25345723dont, i have a weak stomach.
>>25344905What do you think dreams are for? Or even daydreams? They're communications from the unconscious.Have you never had episodes where you acted involuntarily, or out of character? Who do you think was controlling your actions at the time?Where do psychic dysfunctions come from, like neurosis or schizophrenia, or even Tourette's syndrome?
Was his childhood story of abuse true or fabricated?
>>25339542It's not exactly unreasonable, plenty of people get off on the idea of torturing people and do it if they are able to find weak people that no one cares about, foster children with behavioral problems fit that mold exactly. Is it Satanic in nature? Probably for at least some of them, but it's not like most of them are actually communing with the son of perdition, they are just torturing people and inventing some faux-ritualistic reason for doing it after the fact.
>>25342307> it Satanic in nature? Probably for at least some of them, but it's not like most of them are actually communingThen you have dismantled what this was at the time. It’s hard if you’re not 40+ to understand that the Satanic Panic shit was a christcuck thing at its core. The Ozzy records, banning all videogames (this started at the “Mario jumps on turtles” age, not GTA), the lead drinking and breathing, 5 pack a day, boozing since 12 years old boomers were convinced pop culture in general was satanic. You even see their feebleminded retard spawn struggling to form the same sentences on /pol/ today (more focus on ze joos than satan though). Without the Rosemary’s Baby framing of literal satanic cults you just have the same shit the boomers grew up with and normalized. Diddlers. Pederasts. These enlightened fucking jewels of our age didn’t even ban child porn until the 70s, and spearheaded the “psychological” ideas of children being introduced to sex by their parents and other insanity. As part of the whole sexual revolution they were rebelling agains the backward ways of their parents you see, the era of feminism and free love and drugs was all boomer led. By the 80s and 90s they were pretending to be conservative however and screaming about MY KEEDZ BABY, and the corrupting influences of the society they created. They needed it to be literal satanic cults operating in secret because the idea that it was just the perversions of their own generation come home to roost was too much.
>>25339542Fucking idiot.
>>25341690LOL my mom looovvvveeed participating in online self righteous outrage culture over "child abuse" and "pornsickness" as she was actively sexually abusing us (not violently but still) and letting us eat moldy bread cause she was "too good for food stamps"(or a job). I'm sorry anon.
>>25343587>It’s hard if you’re not 40+ to understand that the Satanic Panic shit was a christcuck thing at its core.Except there's lots of evidence to support it.
