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I'm late by two seconds it's over
>>25387757I'd prefer to extend it. How about a full week?
>>25387828>I'd prefer to extend it. How about a full week?Sure thing!(At any rate, I know I’ll have something to contribute.)And your reply came right in time—I was just about to post the poll.>>25387777>I'm late by two seconds it's overEven if it I wasn’t extending it, you’d still have been fine.By the way, I’m fine with >>25387481 not using Rentry, since the submission fits inside a textbox, but I’m pretty sure you did your trip wrong.
>[Extension for submsissions countdown]https://countingdownto.com/?c=7236533And not that you need my permission to do so, but I’m fine with /lwc/ being shared across boards—if you think there are creative folks out there who would be interested in participating in this, please let ’em know!
Essential travel /lit/?
>>25387412>Matt ForneyWhenever I'm reminded of 2017 alt-right figures it's like seeing a model of one of those extinct proto-mammal synapsids in a museum. It's strange to imagine it being around today but you can still see aspects of modern mammals in it.
>>25387412>like seeing a model of one of those extinct proto-mammal synapsids in a museum.Well 4chan and /lit/ basically are museums at this point so yeah, makes sense
Some personal favorites:Seven Years in Tibet (Heinrich Harrer)Kon-Tiki (Thor Heyerdahl)Two Years Before the Mast (Richard Henry Dana Jr.)A Time of Gifts (Patrick Leigh Fermor)Arabian Sands (Wilfred Thesiger)Kabloona (Gontran De Poncins)Three Men in a Boat (Jerome K. Jerome)
>>25387412To this day it amazes me that there are still foreigners who come to the Philippines only to get fleeced out of their entire pension and life savings by ultra-poor filipinas
When reading fiction I often have this problem where my imagination runs wild a bit and I start coming up with headcanons and alternate universe ideas, and it negatively affects my enjoyment of the work cause I end up preferring my ideas more than the actual story. How do I stop doing this and just enjoy a work for what it is?
>>25386437>read the book>think about them canonsmany such cases
>>25386437A bullet would do the trick
>>25386437this but with philosophy
>>25386437Write something of your own to see if your ideas really are superior.
anon that's called creativity and it's what people use to write stories of their own. if it troubles you, you can try smashing your head against a rock until you stop getting such pesky things like 'thoughts' and 'ideas'. but i don't necessarily recommend that.
>Dracula, and specifically the Count's migration to Victorian England, is frequently read as emblematic of invasion literature,[154] and a projection of fears about racial pollution.[155] In an influential postcolonialist analysis,[156] Stephen Arata describes the novel's cultural context of mounting anxiety in Britain over the decline of the British Empire, the rise of other world powers, and a "growing domestic unease" over the morality of imperial colonisation.[157] Arata regards the novel as representing "reverse colonisation": fear of other races invading England and weakening its racial purity.[158] Patricia McKee writes that Dracula represents a negation of white culture while Mina represents "pure whiteness".[159] Dracula can be said to both kill white bodies and turn them into the racial Other in death.[160] Some critics connect the racialisation of Dracula to his depiction as a degenerate criminal.[161][162]>Critics frequently identify antisemitic themes and imagery in the novel. Between 1891 and 1900, the number of Jews living in England increased sixfold, mainly due to antisemitic legislation and pogroms in eastern Europe.[163] Examples cited by Halberstam of antisemitic connections include Dracula's appearance, wealth, parasitic bloodlust, and "lack of allegiance" to one country.[164][u] Dracula's appearance resembles some other cultural depictions of Jews, such as Fagin in Charles Dickens's Oliver Twist (1838), and Svengali of George du Maurier's Trilby (1895).[166] Jewish people were frequently described as parasites in Victorian literature; Halberstam highlights fears that Jews would spread diseases of the blood, and one journalist's description of Jews as "Yiddish bloodsuckers".[167] Daniel Renshaw writes that any antisemitism in the text is "semi-subliminal"; he writes that Dracula is not Jewish but does reflect the 19th-century conception of Jewish people. Renshaw frames the novel more broadly as a general suspicion of all foreigners.[168]Is it worth reading?
>>25387039Your will won't be worth reading.
>>25387039The first four chapters (Harker's journal) are pretty good, but the book then spends a couple chapters developing set-up, and nothing really happens until the Demeter arrives and Lucy get sicks. Because it's epistolic, some are more interesting than others (like Seaward's diaries), but generally the characters don't do much until Lucy dies.The book gets interesting again when our characters go gravedigging, and then when Dracula attacks. Though the very ending felt a bit rushed.7 or 8/10As for the racism and antisemitism, Stoker isn't even trying to hide it, though I agree with Renshaw's view, Dracula is Romanian, but his characteristics could easily be substituted for antisemitic tropes. But it's also important to remember that alot of the tropes were tropes which were often substituted for Eastern Europeans in general.Like, there's a sexual undercurrent to his blood-drinking, which Harker describes in chapter 3, and that was ascribed with Slavs, Jews, and Romanians alike.
Ejacula.Draculation.
>>25387039Modern (pre-brexit) retelling of Dracula would have the count immigrate to Britain as a lowly plumber
People drone on a lot about this in the British schooling and university system, unfortunately my sister imbibed this bad take as one of her few faults as a thinker and believes that Bram Stoker accidentally caused the anti-immigration act and prejudice against eastern Europeans. Things couldn't be further from the truth since there were many other social factors that caused anti-immigration sentiment to take off, with literature at best acting as a mirror rather than determining politics. And anti-eastern European sentiment itself is really just a way to make anti-Jewish sentiment sound different (why is anyone's guess) - huge amounts of shtetl Jews were moving into Britain at the time.The novel itself is interesting and deep but generally academics consider it lowbrow and will refuse to discuss it even though it's got real merits.
Is anything other than the Repairer of Reputations and the Yellow Sign worth reading in this?
>>25382802I think everything up to and including The Demoiselle d'Ys is worth reading, but Ys is noticeably worse than the previous stories in my opinion. What comes after can be ignored.
>>25382802I liked all 4 tbqhwu but the Repairer is the one that shines
i liked the story with falconer cutie
>>25382802It was extremely disappointing to find out that this is just a collection of goosebumps-tier short stories instead of one complete horror novel.
>>25383114ThisThe Streets stories (aside from Our Lady of The Fields) I found to be quite weak - otherwise the book is wonderful
I want to read Kant but this is way too high IQ for meIs there some baby version of Kant?
>>25387706Reading Kant makes me want to fall asleep. Is there a good secondary source around 500 pages long that will cover most of what is relevant from Kant?
>>25387710Please tell me how will durant got it wrong?
>>25387715Beiser's German Idealism is good.It also explains the different interpretations of Kant that dominated. Kant as a subjectivist was popular among British philosophers which might be what >>25387710 is suggesting.
>>25387706Leviticus 19:18 is pretty much all you need to know about Kant condensed to one sentence
>>25387706He's basically saying that things can't be known as themselves which split philosophy into two schools. The analytical team said reason still matters and the continental team said there are structures outside reason. He also throws this deontoligical argument that moral imperatives should be held through duty not obligation/reason.He's ridiculously hard to read like Hagel or Derrida.
>Winds of Winter is taking as long as all of the previous 5 books combined >A Song of Ice and Fire is now 30 years old and still unfinished
>>25386486>Americans using polysyllabic words and caring about other cultures Wouldn't happen
When I started reading better books I started to see fantasy as just slop for zoomer and millennial men
>>25384563his books are fun but people acting like it's the greatest lit ever are usually ignorant fatties
>>25384771Yeah that's not gonna happen. His publishers are gonna force an ending to the fat fuck's books and that's it.
>>25384620Probably, he writes them per character chapter and only later are they arranged for the book. I wouldn't be surprised if he has some characters pretty much done for both books. But then he starts writing for another and ends up needing to change things for the ones he already did.
Every three sentences I have to search up the meaning of a new word. My vocabulary isn't that deficient, it's just this cunt insists on using words like>Contretemps>Verisimilitude>Debonair>Surreptitious>Friable>Plangency>NictateEvery. Goddamn. Sentence.Am I being filtered or is this supposed to have a narrative function or what the hell is Nabokov's problem?I can't even get in a good reading headspace because of the incessant semantic disruptions.
>>25387827I've never read him but learning new words is part of the fun of reading imo, even though I think most "big words" are totally redundant. Particularly French loan words, they only really exist because early 20th century pseudos wanted to signal their sense of self sophistication.
>>25387827Ok some of these are obscure but verisimilitude, debonair and surreptitious are straight from the pages of “Babby’s First Literary Dictionary.” Your vocabulary is much smaller than you think. Take my advice, kid: get a notebook and jot down the new words and look them up after reading. It’s much less intrusive.
Why was there never a movie adaptation of the Secret History?
>>25387704There have been multiple attempts and all of them fizzed out because no studio wants Tartt as the screenwriter. After The Goldfinch bombed she said something along the lines of "I'm not gonna allow more adaptations".
>>25387704is The Secret History just Violent Yaoi?
Books where the incel wins.
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The Hobbit. Rationalization: did Bilbo ever have sex? No.
The Bible
Post and discussion about any type of history book.>Vengeance: The Last Stands of Custer, Crazy Horse, and Sitting Bull by Tom Clavin>On June 25–26, 1876, the Battle of the Little Bighorn, commonly referred to as Custer's Last Stand, was fought between combined forces of the Lakota Sioux, Northern Cheyenne, and Arapaho tribes and the 7th Cavalry Regiment of the United States Army. Along the Little Bighorn River in Montana Territory, the battle resulted in the devastating defeat of U.S. forces and was the most significant action of the Great Sioux War of 1876.https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/240019835-vengeancehttps://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-the-Little-Bighornhttps://www.worldhistory.org/George_Armstrong_CusterPrevious thread: >>25234505
>>25385970I need a book like this but for England
>>25385970tl;dr: segregation works
What's with all the "boo-hoo poor nibba" history books being posted ITT? Is this reddit?
>>25317460Bury
>>25386886tl;dr: segregation caused the unafforadbility crisis>>25387207sorry for triggering u, my bad
What are some books that you've read twice?
>>25384961The White TigerThe Alchemist
>>25384961I hate reading, it is a chore. I've never reread a book, only care to move on to the next to check the box of my self worth.
im realizing i reread quite a lot>>25384961The Things They Carried (probably 5-6 times)Invisible ManPerks of Being a WallflowerThe Common LawSeven Husbands of Evelyn HugoGreat Gatsby (was told to read this in high school, and so i did, and then we just read it in class---i didn't like it very much)A Biography of the Constitution (Akhil Reed Amar)The Color of LawThe Love Hypothesis (I do love this genre of slop)Numerous Childrens Books (ik this doesn't count but i worked at a preschool for a long time and i read some books dozens and dozens of times---don't even get me started on '12 days of christmas' books)
>>25384961LOTR and the Hobbit BotNSFear And Trembling Symposium, The Death of Socrates Marcus Aurelius' Meditations (meh)A Confederacy Of DuncesOther stuff I've forgotten. These are just the ones I know I've reread a lot.
Several Philip K Dick books.
Question: is keeping books standing up like this bad for them? or does it do not very much harm at all? because it’s the most convenient way to have them on my nightstand so I can grab whichever one I like without moving a whole pile. If the consensus leans not very much a problem, I’ll grab some bookends and make it permanent.Also, POST YUOR SHELVES PLOX.
>>25360354My best attempt at creating a shelf. Always wanted to have one ever since I was young, but I was too broke. The goal was to have a little bit of the entirety of human knowledge. I don't really have an eye for aesthetics, but I tried my best, even if it does look larpy. Started collecting these books since 2018 ish. Many are used. The rotating bookshelf has more books hidden behind as well.
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>>25387405I also have that copy of Pound's Cantos and I also damaged the sleeve :)
I think the problem with the Third Man Argument is a confusion over language, e.g. the fact that we have to make sentences with a subject and a predicate, the fact that we understand the subject to be a noun and the predicate to be some sort of adjective (even if it is otherwise a noun), and that the copula "is" can do many things at once. But the things we are talking about, in some sense, have to be above grammatical distinctions of nouns, adjectives, etc., which turn out to be more conventional than essential. We tend to treat adjectives as pertaining to accidents and nouns as pertaining to essences, even though in practice we mix them up. For example, if I say "The cat is brown", we have a simple subject-predicate structure in the form of noun and adjective respectively. Is it an essential feature of cats that they are brown? Not necessarily. I could also say that "The cat is an animal", and we have another subject-predicate structure, but with a twist as the predicate is a predicate nominative, i.e. we are using "animal" to describe (like an adjective, kind of) what kind of thing the cat is, and we necessarily know that all cats must be animals. Keep this in mind. (1/?)
>>25386743>Parmenides argues that if a form is present within many, then it's divisable, and therefore separate from the itself, which is a nonsenseThen what is divisible? The thing that has the form? Yes, the thing is divisible. But not the form. >Take it up with Parmenides if you want.The real problem which you're sidestepping is how is it possible for there to be more than One thing, whether it is a sensible thing, or a form, or whatever. This is the most challenging problem for Parmenides and in philosophy in general. You're just letting this important current stream through your fingertips without paying any attention to it.
>>25386979An unintentional paraphrase sounds ridiculous. And it's not even true. >>25386754>>25386761>>25386770I literally made the Trivium infographic.
>>25380994>>25380996>>25381001>>25381028>I think the problem with the Third Man Argument is a confusion over languagele epic linguistic confusion is an insanely generic and boring "analysis". consider having an original thought before posting
>>25387673Consider suicide if that's all you were capable of gleaning from the post. You'll never make it anon. This is way above your paygrade.
>>25387681so you're not doing a trite linguistic analysis? you're not repeating outdated but culturally widespread reductionist takes from early analytic philosophy?
Bede edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>25286593>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
>>25386267good, can't complain about the Latin, I don't recall checking it and feeling like it was missing something important or being too roundabout compared to the Greek>>25386849probably a bit of both things, that is, as you say, the Greek, especially of Xenophon, being very clear and straightforward(he's kinda know as the entry point of real Greek literature a bit like Caesar is for Latin), but also the will of the translator to both stick to the text as closely as possible(while still not sounding off in Latin) and not seek excessive virtuosity by imitating fancier golden age Latin prose
>>25387680Yeah I can follow this fairly easily too. Do you know if anyone sells decent reprints of these? If I find it later I will try to remember there’s a link to a really solid POD series for the Leonine edition of Aquinas’s complete works that this priest set up.
>>25387337Enareis would be a hundred times funnier in this meme imo. They were a branch of Scythian “priestesses” who dressed and spoke as women as punishment for having erectile dysfunction/ being impotent. This class was largely composed of ex-soldiers and Hippocrates speculates it is becaue soldiers ride on horses so they have more opportunity to injure their groin than farmers and other jobs do.
>>25387353It doesn’t mean “twink” though. It was just rendered as effeminates by 19th century authors - pic related. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnareeThey were literally what we’d consider trannies today.
>>25387697I'm not into physical books(yet) so idk sorry, but it would be nice in general though I like side by side editions like these
