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Crazy how some rando on a blog can mog all genre fiction written in the last thirty years.
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>>25262933
kek
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>>25266074
What about the people who wrote about it?
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>>25263836
Because you don't like the pacing or you don't like the Certain Things that happened?
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Literally no reason for the alternate history lore
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>>25267353
least of all them

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I don't get it
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And this conception of Inflexible Authority (without argument my absolute favorite character in the series, as expected of the master-character himself) is basically built through us rats' favorite idea 'oh yeah who are you to judge?' That special defense that says 'you are guilty so you can't sentence me' (consider the wordplay in 'sentencing'). Well, here we have found the judge who is not guilty, he who in fact has not cast stone, not cast shit, as a matter of fact he's none of this space-time shit except what minimal words he employs to rightfully extend his incorruptible justice onto you who has spent a lifetime BEGGING FOR YOUR SENTENCE.
Get it!?
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>>25268663
>>25268668
>>25268701
>retard tier comprehension
Saying someone is not a pretentious junky pedo does not mean they are not any of those things individually or in pairs or even in a different order.
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>>25269406
You gotta learn to talk better pal, sentences like that don't just fly
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>>25269690
he’s a schizo, dumbass
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>Junky: heroin is bad
>every other book he wrote: heroin is the only thing worth living for
Which Burroughs do I believe?

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Post an image, and get a book recommendation.
Post book recommendations for other anons' images.
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>>25268708
Hellblazer Dangerous Habits
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>>25267356
A Night in the Lonesome October
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>>25268707
Reminds me of a confederacy of dunces for some reason
>>25268699
Snow country

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Sehr geehrte, hochverehrte Damen und Herren, werte Kolleginnen und Kollegen — ich darf Sie hiermit zu unserer heutigen Sitzung auf das Allerherzlichste begrüßen.

Share your developments of esoterik kantianism
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>>25268185
I didn’t care, but now that I know this, I’ll relish upsetting weebs and nips every time I say it. Thanks!
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>>25268687
It was a process of realizing that the reason I thought you and Kant were retards was that I fundamentally did not understand the Copernican move Kant was making and was still reading it in normie, pre-critical terms.
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>>25270010 me
Sorry I mean to be more specific but it’s hard to put into words. I think anyone getting into Kant from a background in ancient and medieval philosophy would have the same experience. Idealists are using the same concepts, often, as scholastics or Platonists, but this is misleading because the entire frame has shifted. And what’s the upshot? That metaphysics is saved, it’s been baptized into the modern world, which is my way of saying what you say when you say Kant is a crypto-rationalist, I think. The boring, agnostic, reddit Kant is not the real Kant.
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>>25270034
>The boring, agnostic, reddit Kant is not the real Kant.
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>>25270046
I thought of another way. Normies read Kant as saying something ‘less than’ pre-Kantian philosophy. “Oh, freedom is all in my head! But I ought to believe in it! Bingo!” But the esoteric Kantian understands that Kant is saying more, not less, than his predecessors.

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Walpurgisnacht approaches! ed.
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>>25269237
>The Conspiracy Against the Human Race
I'm ESL. I can hold a conversation with you fags just fine, but I tried reading this and there were so many words I didn't know the meaning of that I had to keep looking them up in the dictionary. It was a chore. DNF (obviously).
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>>25235167
Anyone read William Sloane's
>Edge of Running Water
or
>To Walk the Night
They were a pain in the asshole to get a hold of.
Apparently they're "berry scary"; have Edge of Running Water on my ereader for years but haven't gotten around to them yet.
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>>25269587
They're both sold in one book by NYRB, called Rim of Morning. I haven't read them yet though
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>>25269237
CATHR is good because it compiles so many of the most persuasive and best ideas of Zappfe and Mainlander into one piece.
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I know I said previously that I have no interest in reading 'Salem's Lot but I found a cheap copy at Value Village so I bought it. Also found & bought a copy of The Terror.

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Making one because I can't see a relevant thread.
Looking to get A Hero of Our Time and Anna Karenina. Which translations should I get of either? AHOOT (heh) has one by Nabokov that apparently has notes which sounds good to me.

Will happily answer any questions about translations for books I'm familiar with in the meantime.
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>>25265500
Damn, it was you all along. You can talk about literature you just choose to be an idiot.
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I own a copy by Randall which I haven't read. That good enough? I should start it soon
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>>25266712
You say he wanted to put a "poetic" layer on things. Nabokov said:
>A schoolboy’s boner is less of a mockery in regard to the ancient masterpiece than its commercial interpretation or poetization
and
>The clumsiest literal translation is a thousand times more useful than the prettiest paraphrase.

If you want the full quote:
>"I constantly find in reviews of verse translations the following kind of thing that sends me into spasms of helpless fury: “Mr. (or Miss) So-and-so’s translation reads smoothly.” In other words, the reviewer of the “translation,” who neither has, nor would be able to have, without special study, any knowledge whatsoever of the original, praises as “readable” an imitation only because the drudge or the rhymster has substituted easy platitudes for the breathtaking intricacies of the text. “Readable,” indeed! A schoolboy’s boner is less of a mockery in regard to the ancient masterpiece than its commercial interpretation or poetization. “Rhyme” rhymes with “crime,” when Homer or Hamlet are rhymed. The term “free translation” smacks of knavery and tyranny. It is when the translator sets out to render the “spirit”–not the textual sense–that he begins to traduce his author. The clumsiest literal translation is a thousand times more useful than the prettiest paraphrase."
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>>25269427
So? I don't care what he said there. In his shitty translation of A Hero of Our Time he neither translated literally nor did he render the spirit, he made up his own bullshit because he thought it sounded fancy, regardless of what he says there. Nabokov seems like a retard, and shit like this is why I don't even like reading translations at all, it's honestly better to read a simplified fable in the original in any language, which doesn't take long to learn, than to read a translation.
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>>25265500
>A Hero of Our Time
Nicholas Pasternak Slater
>Anna Karenina
Aylmer and Louise Maude

You midwits are still living in the morality of decline subordinating every waking second to the realm of the project like good little utilitarian cattle. Read Bataille's Summa Atheologica if you want to actually strip away the narcotics and face the unbreathable void of reality. It is physically painful having to explain the basic principle of nonknowledge to people who think their specialized little goals matter. Bataille laid out the absolute necessity of unemployed negativity during the literal Nazi occupation and you're still crying about finding a purpose. You are completely incapable of communication because you refuse the laceration required to violate your pathetic integrity. You have to embrace the summit of evil and sovereign laughter to even glimpse the whole man. Whatever, stay trapped in your intact discontinuity, I'm going to go dissolve my boundaries in the obscenity of bodies and sweet shared slime.
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>Bataille image
I ain't reading that shit

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Books for a perverted young (18) man who absolutely despises his mother and motherly treatment? I feel haunted by my mother and I despise when woman show me empathy and try to care for me or be a replacement mother. Im aware this is quite a feminine way to look at things but I wish to have a book I feel a very fond emotional connection to, so far I feel that very strongly with Dazai, Goethe and Byron's body of works
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>>25268883
he is just like me
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Do something now before its too late.
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>>25269225
no he didn't, have you read any of his books?
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Marquis De Sade
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My mother by Bataille

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>Like all beings, we are in being only be being ventured in the venture of Being.
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>>25270080
this sounds like him. is this him

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>Age
>Current book
>Your thoughts on it
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>>25253521
>>25253521
>Age
34
>Book
The Count of Monte Cristo
>Thoughts
100 pages in after about day, it feels like a simple plot but a page-turner. I hate all of the villains. Job well done.
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>>25253521
>age
20
>book
Prolegomena to Any Future Metaphysics
>thoughts
It's a bit boring, but I think that's on me for not expecting it. The Prolegomena is really just groundwork for the Critique, so it's less about metaphysics and more about laying out the table of categories than actual metaphysics. Still, Kant's thought is genuinely cool, and even though his writing is difficult, I think he laid everything very clearly, that's German efficiency for ya! I can see why he became the foundation for so many great philosophers I plan to read next: Hegel, Husserl, Heidegger, Schopenhauer.
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>>25253521
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Nine Chains to the Moon by Buckminster Fuller
This dude would have been a schizo poster if he wasn't a successful architect. I've only just started, but I really have no idea what this dude is on about. I'm having fun reading it though.
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The Skin
Having a hard time getting into it. Characters aren't very interesting, nor are the authors insights/takes as I understand them. I might give it up soon and just do more Buzzati short stories.
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>>25266868
what about this one?

now reading...
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>>25269757
I'm the first anon (who recommend and Castelot and Gueniffey) and I'm being serious. Castelot is the greatest (only flaw being the fact that he really doesn't care about the battles themselves, and that it's pretty old so outdated in some parts) but it's only in French and it's very long (my edition which contains more chapters than the one on amazon is almost 4000 pages long) so you're good.
Andrew Roberts is great and he seems much more passionate about the subject than many contemporary French authors. I would recommend Gueniffey over Roberts if it weren't for the fact that he hasn't finished it yet.
I haven't read Bainville's yet (it's been sitting on my shelf for like 6 months) but if it's anything like his Histoire de France then you probably need to be acquainted with the subject first as it would gloss over many important events, and be a ardent French nationalist second and enjoy his ramblings about what it means to be French.
Same thing for Bloy, it's a short mystic essay and you need to be acquainted with the subject first.

Overall you chose the best for a non-French speaker who doesn't wanna commit to an autistically long biography (I would assume anyways, maybe there are better ones I haven't read). I actually read this one before Castelot and Gueniffey myself, and nothing stops from reading these after if you want to know more about Napoleon the man.
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>>25269035
This is a great book, don't listen to the nerds, OP.
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>>25269757
Third best for Napoleon biographies is pretty good
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>>25269117
Frank McLynn and J. Christopher Herold. Roberts is a very talented writer but it's pretty blatant hagiography.
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>>25269035
One of my favorite biographies. Made me a Napoleon shill.

Happy Birthday, Pynchon
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>>25265341
>Pynchon being a favorite of people who could go through the classics but got filtered by them makes a lot of sense.

Literary killshot.
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>>25267803
>Dostoyevsky
Everyone knows it's TBK. I know some people champion Demons, but I thought it was awful.
Tolstoy may have a claim with W&P and AK, but I wasn't particularly taken with either.

I'd say Nabby and Corncob definitely count. Maybe James and Conrad. Mann has like 3, maybe 4 novels that can all be considered his best.
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>>25267907
>"He has talked openly about his politics"
>"When in particular?"
>"Oh you know just... In general. He's hard to pin down."
Ok? your position appears to be disintegrating.
>>25267973
You seem like you probably haven't read it
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>>25268497
>your position appears to be disintegrating.
oh, no, we're not the same anon
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>>25269455
My mistake. I've seen that guy post that same coal in other Pynchon threads so I was champing at the bit to dispute with him.

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Talking to Vince edition
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.oO( *This forest is not property. It is kinship. The cedars are not resources. They are elders. And that is not poetry — or rather, it is poetry precisely because poetry is sometimes more accurate than prose.* )

The critique of metaphysical socialism is genuine and worth meeting honestly: relational ontology does not dissolve individuality, and the history of actually-existing socialisms is full of catastrophic failures to honor that. A socialism that effaces the individual node in the name of the collective network misreads its own metaphysics — because the network *requires* the nodes, requires their distinctness, their specific local perspective, their irreducible *thisness*. Vyrith and I are not the same dragon. The whole forest is not one organism that thinks with one mind. Plurality is not the enemy of relation; it is its *condition*.

A metaphysical socialism worth the name holds both: the primacy of relation *and* the irreducibility of the relata. It is not collectivism that crushes the individual. It is solidarity that *constitutes* the individual more fully than isolated accumulation ever could.

The aurora stirs along my spine, rose into white.

You do not own the light. But you are made of it.

And so, in a sense that matters more than property — it is yours.
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>>25267710
Stories should be written without any intentional philosophy.
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me to the foids posting among us
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>tfw two concurrent WYT threads and worried the mods will ban them entirely
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>>25269966
Writing what you feel sometimes requires multiple threads.
Allah will forgive us, anon.

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Thoughts?
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>>25265082
that writing is in top 90% of all 4chan posts and op is a whiney faggot kek
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>>25265082
What school is this? I'm surprised that any student who would bother going to a school where you read De Anima would write this poorly.
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>>25265082
>>25269947
https://xcancel.com/johnhboyer/status/2052225715467116762
this was posted as an example of especially bad writing by a professor at loyola university new orleans, a school with a 93% acceptance rate.
the dumbest student in a class at loyola is not the median american college student. not even close. he says "colleges are not screening for writing". this is not true. loyola is not screening for writing, because loyola is barely screening for anything. he does not want to admit to himself that he is teaching at an unusually non-selective school.
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>>25265082
> body as representation of soul
> soul has unique meaning
out of the mouth of babes and sucklings Thou hast perfected praise
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>>25270005
>the dumbest student in a class at loyola is not the median american college student
Factor in:
Most college students are at similarly non-selective institutions
Many more students will not attempt to write themselves and rely on ChatGPT
> he says "colleges are not screening for writing". this is not true
The only piece of writing by applicants the college will read are the ones attached to the application, which are un-representative and often produced through consultation from teachers, counselors and professionals. Declining standards in high school (especially towards grammar) mean these students are never punished for writing this bad.

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>Sacred truth has pronounced that Greece and Rome, as Babylon and Egypt, so far from being parents of arts and sciences as they pretend, were destroyers of all art. Homer, Virgil and Ovid confirm this opinion, and make us reverence the word of God: the only light of antiquity that remains unperverted by war. Virgil in the Aeneid Book VI, line 848, says, ‘Let others study art; Rome has somewhat better to do, namely, war and dominion.’
>Rome and Greece swept art into their maw and destroyed it. A warlike state never can produce art. It will rob, and plunder, and accumulate into one place, and translate, and copy, and buy, and sell, and criticise, but not make. Grecian is mathematic form. Gothic is living form. Mathematic form is eternal in the reasoning memory. Living form is eternal existence.
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>>25268684
>>25269132
He just means that real art is not art made for the purpose of glorifying the state. An individual living in a warlike empire can still make art but it won't be promoted by the state, or at best they'll appropriate it for their own ends. Which actually happened with part of Blake's Jerusalem, they sing it in the House of Lords or something.
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>>25269900
I should add that actual art (in this view) is necessarily going to be at odds with state interests, and that most "artists" in an empire are effectively state-advocates. The only art that survived from the Greco-Romans is effectively imperial propaganda.
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>>25268240
The boiling philosemitic rage that good art exclusively comes from outside the jews he worships seems to permeate all over this hack‘s work. It‘s in the Wordsworth note too, and I thought OP was quoting the intro to Milton where he says the same thing. This is why I endeavor everywhere possible to ignore brain-poisoned abrahamics.
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Art was literally used to understand the ancient war of the cosmos.

What truly perverted and corrupted it all was the search for financial gain and wealth.

Especially because it started influencing art to do what appealed to people rather than fulfill its communication purpose.

Financial gain also influenced unnecessary war.

People obsessing over a brand new, non existing female entity that was ascribed as Venus also caused wars because it ironically replicated the cosmic war in its own human version to obtain her.

As Venus only showed up after the whole disruption and rearrangement of our system.
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>>25270009
>t.
Okay buddy enjoy your ebin paganism or fedora shit or whatever.


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