>Mere Christianity - C. S. Lewis>Introduction to Christianity - Pope Benedict XVI>The Confessions of St. Augustine>St. Thomas Aquinas - G.K. Chesterton>Orthodoxy - G.K. Chesterton>The Everlasting Man - G.K. Chesterton>A Shorter Summa The Essential Philosophical Passages of Saint Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologica - Peter J. Kreeft>Catechism of the Summa Theologi - Thomas Aquinas>Catholic Catechism of Saint Piu - Pope St. Pius X>Early Christian Writings The Apostolic Fathers - Andrew Louth>History of the Christian Church (Complete Eight Volumes In One) - Philip Schaff>Ignatius Catholic Study Bible New Testament RSV 2nd Edition>The Faith of Our Fathers - James Cardinal Gibbons>The Spirit of Catholicism - Karl Adam Robert A. Krieg>The Complete Ante-Nicene & Nicene and Post-Nicene Church Fathers CollectionComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23322183The Diamond Brothers and Michael E.Jones should collab together and combine their schizo powers
>>23322149Pope Francis did not. He explicitly condemned this. Homosexuals, like all other sinners, can ask blessings from priests.
I read a book recently after anonymous shilled it on here called Death Comes for the Archbishop. I loved it you guys should read it
>>23317732Highly recommended
>>23322531>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlheinz_Deschner#WorksThis nigga was absolutely obsessed lol
I want to buy book that covers all the logical fallacies in detail in hardcover preferably, does anyone have a book like this?
>>23322597>Logical fallacy is when something I dont likeYou have to understand logic first. Fallacies are just inconsistencies. Its like saying list every wrong answer to a math question.You dont even understand the nature of an inconsistency or logic itself, or nature.
>>23322597On Sophistical Refutations by AristotleStraight and Crooked Thinking
>>23322608Strunk & White is bullshit. Paradise Lost violates every rule in that book
>>23322597When I was a kid, I thought Lex Luthor was a black dude. It surprised to find me that he wasn't supposed to be African American.
There was a time when OP would be a troll and he would have masterfully gotten a large number of anons to spend hours arguing about a tiny little semantic detail and when it was over they would have congratulated OP. I miss old/lit/.>but it is a troll!Even worse, just come off like a moron either way.
>he's never read a thousands year old text that mirrored a dream he had about being in the afterlife
what is the point of this thread?
>Book is called Arrowsmith>Isn't a biography of ArrowsmithGlad I didn't pay for this shit.
>>23322514Mainstreet and Babbit are great, have yet to read Arrowsmith. Arrowsmith (the band) sucks.
>>23322548Just remembered, the band is Aerosmith. OP can't even meme properly.
I work with a guy who used to roadie for Aerosmith. He said they were "cartoon characters."
>>23322548Sinclair was a typical wannabe cosmopolitan faggot whining that everyone in the midwest wasn't as progressive as him.
What are your favorite books that in some way feature aliens?
Solaris.
>>23322120The Holy Bible (KJV)
Communion2001: A Space OdysseyDoesn't Gravity's Rainbow have little green/grey men in it?
Alright, /lit, I'll start reading this weirdo. What's the order?
>>23319437>>23319455pynchon, gaddis and wallace are the most obvious midwit blow horns >look everyone, I'm reading difficult, girthy post modernism! just read books that resonate with you by how you feel and what you're going through.
>>23322129If pynchon doesn't resonate with you you're dead inside
>>23322129pynchon resonates with me, isn't very difficult, and several of his novels are short. you sound like a presumptuous, shallow faggot
>>23322129Col49 (only Pynchon I've read) resonated heavy with me, what's wrong with postmodernism it's literally just people trying new things, at least they take risks and aren't scared of being seen as pompous intellectuals by faggot retards, imo though I don't see any of them holding a candle to Calvino, he's alot more pertinent to things that matter instead of abstractions
>>23322129They aint m idwits ANON
If there are an infinite number of whole numbers, and an infinite number of decimals in between any two whole numbers, and an infinite number of decimals in between any two decimals, does that mean that there are infinite infinities? And an infinite number of those infinities? And an infinite number of those infinities? And…(infinitely times. And that infinitely times. And that infinitely times. And…) …
>>23321803If you're interested in the period during the Vietnam war there's a nice memoir by an American guy who lived there and married a princess. It's called "In A Little Kingdom." (Perry Stieglitz)
offtopic. this is a /lit/ board, not math. and the count of real numbers is infinity, but the count of whole numbers is referred to as "aleph sub naught". there are branches of mathematics that deal with the mathematics of infinity.>>23321265>>23321435t. non-STEM
>>23321206Infinite infinities is sort of like a truism, meaningless phrase. Infinite infinities is already implied by the concept of infinity itself.
>>23321206There is really no such thing as infinity.
>>23321206>Georg Cantor has entered the chat
>Literally made up A Million Little Fibers and called it a memoir, the story details the tragic circumstances of recovering from addiction, something many people struggle with and looked up to the book for recovery>gets caught lying/he fabricated the events,doesn't back off>Creates a Publishing company siphoning YA Novels from hopeful writers that only gives a very small royalty advance (250 dollars) and then gets to take complete control of the rights and slap his name on it>Still pumping out generic YA trash to this day because his ruse (shitty fictional memoir) was found outThis dude is a sociopath. Just look at his eyes.
>>23322554I am Number 4 is mid af for young adult
Need help finding a short story.I remember reading a story about a guy who wherever he went he would find a foul smell. The twist was that the guy realizes it's his own smell since he's rotting on the inside.I thought it was something written by Poe but I can't find it. Any clues?
Adolfo Bioy Casares - A propos of a smell?
>>23318741My dad sometimes would say I had shit on my moustache if I said something was smelling bad
>>23322156Mine would say I had shit on the tip of my nose
>>23318741>The twist was that the guy realizes it's his own smellDoesn't sound like a very good twist. It was obvious the instant you said that the smell follows him everywhere. idk, maybe the actual story pulls it off well somehow.
>>23322089This could be it, but I'll have to double checkI didnt think about spanish writers so you may be onto something
Has anyone read this book? Thoughts on it?
>>23312592Is this by the author of My Diary Desu?
>>23321850Napoleon famously said the only way to deal with an intellectual is to shoot them because you can’t argue with them. You’re talking about taking these same people and putting them in the seats of power. How do you think that would end up working out?
>>23321850>Why? Wouldnt the government want you to work for them instead?Only "work for them" as in get exploited and get discarded once the high IQ starts having his own ideas about things.
>>23321889I'm talking general high IQ, not dedicated intellectuals with visionary ideals. I dont see why having high IQ should mean a person should become less morally ambigious than the average person, or be less tempted into corruption himself.>>23322093That goes for everyone. It's not a "curse of the high IQ".
>>23315906>implying we go to parties>implying we can articulate two hours worth of philosophyyes I am projecting
Any good non-pozzed children's books?
I saw this one at my university library. The city that hosts the school is a UNESCO city of literature.
>>23322427They are children's books what do you want them to say, KILL NIGGERS, or something?
>>23322470Based>>23322529Not have it cuck children from a young age, you bad faith faggot
i think you could read a kid beowulf.
Thoughts on Ashbery? Any favorite poems or collections by him that you want to recommend or discuss? What do you think of some critics' accusations that his work is meaningless?
>>23317363>Ah, the crank belief again'Glib' clearly refers to the interpretation of the poem, regardless of whether or not you've been maneuvered into the general position of being a liar howsoever (you) at this point 'choose' to respond --as you yourself acknowledge to another anon, here>>23314447What does this 'make' (you)? Shall we say it together? A luh luh luh..What's the point of sociologically inspired 'clarity' ie a 'preference for straight prose' if THAT eludes (you) as well? Or, if (you) are going to attempt to deflect it back into 'pretend' 'mystery'. (It's not a mystery btw; but in deference to your thickness I feel I should inform you that at this point it does you more credit- not much, but a teeny bit more -to have written the poem than not).--Hey man, if (you) want to read The Courtship of the Yonghy-Bonghy-Bo upside-down, by odds, by evens, or even sideways, then by all means do it.But on your own time, please.
>>23320630A long-ish Ashbery poem that's exceptionally straightforward all the way through is the early 'Instruction Manual' (from Some Trees). Many of the poems in this thread are pretty clear too>>23320373>>23318841>>23315145>>23308638>>23298043The last two a little more difficult than the first three, but clear enough for a satisfactory first reading.
Business idea: chart for post war poetryNothing to frighten the /lit/ horses - no Prynne or LANGUAGE, no angry ethnic minorities - stuff like Self Portrait in A Convex Mirror, Life Studies, 77 Dream Songs, The Haw Lantern, Moortown Diaries, High Windows
>>23320866>>luh luh luhThis is a thread about the poetry of John Ashbery, not about my thickness, whether I am a liar, whether my interpretations are glib, etc etc. To keep to Mr. Ashbery's work--1. I rearranged the lines of one of his poems, and a few lines of another, not because I am a winsome scamp, but because I wanted to show anons interested in his poetry, as opposed to off-topic invective, that Ashbery's use of grammar and syntax is singular and unique. It's very hard to do that with most poems. Try it on lines like--Slings and arrowsTo be or not to beWhether 'tis nobler in the mind--and you get word salad that just doesn't add up. Ashbery's loping sentences and clauses, by contrast, snap together in easy variations as smoothly as lego. I would argue that this tells us a lot about the underlying structure of his poems, or rather the apparent lack thereof, and why his poems nonetheless seem to hang together so beautifully. 2. I have also tried to point out why many of his poems, despite their surface meaninglessness, are nonetheless moving and meaningful to many of us here. I believe this is because Ashbery is adept at constructing a sort of Rohrschach language trap--combinations of words and images that suggest meaning rather than state it, and that require a response from the reader to complete the picture. The poem is Ashbery's, but each individual reader's experience of an Ashbery poem is a co-creation. We fill in the blanks, and Ashbery's art largely (but not exclusively) consists of carving up openings in his discursive forays for us to fill. His works inclines us to philosophize, which is one reason why it is so precious.3. As for the Sadness poem, some people say it's a stray Ashbery, some say its an AI, some say it's me, some say it's some other anon. All of them are on the wrong track. Who cares? A poem stands alone. It speaks for itself.
>>23317397gay
/pg/ - Poetry GeneralPost poetry, your own or otherwise, and discuss. Critique and discussion constantly in dire supply. If you're looking for critique, consider giving details on what exactly you're wishing to improve in the work(s).
Blest is death that intervenes notIn the sweet, sweet years of peace,But unto the broken-hearted,When they call him, brings release!Yet Death passes by the wretched,Shuts his ear and slumbers deep;Will not heed the cry of anguish,Will not close the eyes that weep.
>>23312570>the earth>is not a cold dead placeExplosive
I wear the AnkhI wear it wellI clarify the pulse and swellI drive the sunThe light of lifeI calm the lake of chthonic strifeAgainst the lightning lightning fallsMy breath alone destroys the wallsThe fire falling from the eyeAllows me move across the skyThe way is clear, the clear is clearI steer throughout around the spheres
Adrift at sea, floating beyondHorizons few have seen,The rolling waves they do despond,My mind fill’d with what’s been.To think of her, in times like this,Cannot be good for me.But nay it’s right when man’s amiss,For dreaming sets us free.While deep in thought, I see far offA visage sorely miss’d.Her face raises my soul aloft;A reason to persist.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23312477Big bucksBig spenderIm mixing these drugs up in my cup in a blenderI hit that shit up like Im bending my fendersIm feeling light like a pillow like feathersI called her a bitch and now I offend her
Women care nothing for the truth to the point it almost doesn’t even matter, that’s why you’re bad with women. That’s why philosophers don’t get pussy. Women care about feels and want to be lulled into security, so if truth is a woman?? Nietzsche is too based
/wbg/ Worldbuilding GeneralEons EditionWelcome to /wbg/, the official thread for the discussion and development of fictional worlds and settings.Here is where you can share the details of your created worlds such as lore, factions, magic systems, ecosystems and more. You can also post maps for your settings, as well as any relevant art, either created by you or used as inspiration for your work. Please remember that dialogue is what keeps the thread alive, so don't be afraid of giving someone feedback!FAQ:>What is worldbuilding?Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23320020Just outlaw magic and use that as an excuse why there aren't mages burning shit around
>>23320855But I don't want sickly, stupid people. I need fairly healthy kids who can get educated and rebuild industrial society.
>>23275199In my world the two dominant forces are Order and Chaos. At the end of every era (not sure if that’s every 100 or every 1000 years) each force grants power to a mortal champion, who then fight each other. Whichever champion wins, that force is more powerful for the next era, the winner retaining some of their power and become immortal until the next era. The thing is, I am stuck on ways to show which force is dominant, since I want to make them both morally neutral, especially avoiding the excessive mutations and shit Warhammer’s take on Chaos has, or anything so extreme on the Order side either, since neither force can rule over the world if it’s completely broken. One idea was that if someone were to flip a coin, in a Chaos era shit like it landing on the edge instead of either side is more likely, but that’s all I’ve got so far.
>>23320894you could improve by letting your people having better hygiene and nutrition, coupled with a good understanding of herbology and rudimentary pharmacology, (maybe also something close to germ theory) would help to prevent a bunch of health problems, won't be first world level, but would be well ahead medieval and absolute third world shithole levelIf you manage to come up with some superstitions that would actually work, like distilled wine/sacred drink(alcohol) being a quintessence that can purge corruption and cleanse wounds making them heal faster, instead of shit like drinking mercury to extend life and and bleeding people to cure a flu
>>23319571Are any of these relics still around? Sorry if my reply's a bit short, I have a headache.>>23319620Alright, I can see that. BTW, how common are magic users in your setting?BTW, what dd you think of my idea for Quartz in >23316170, and I realized I should be talking more about ideas for the items themselves rather than just materials (though that IS still important. For instance, how about a Darkness-aligned dagger that can stab a person's shadow and pin them in place? Or boots aligned with Ice that don't slip? I'd have more, but my head is throbbing too bad.
