What do you guys think of "The 48 Laws of Power"? I haven't read it, and I'm just browsing through the pdf right now, since I've heard so much about it. I don't understand what the goal of following many these "laws" is.Some of these laws seem generally beneficial to someone's life, such as law 10: avoid people who are unhappy and unfortunate, law 28: enter action with boldness, or law 46: never appear too perfectSome laws are more Machiavellian, but have a clear benefit and could be easily applied to many types of relationships: Law 1: never outshine the master, law 7: get others to do the work for you, then take the credit, Law 11: learn to keep people dependent and reliant on you.Some laws however, I cannot see how anybody could possibly apply to their lives, namely: Law 15: CRUSH YOUR ENEMY TOTALLY... "The enemy will recover, and will seek revenge. Crush him, not only in body but in spirit". If I have a rivalry with someone, am I supposed to fucking murder him? The examples used in the chapter on law 15 all just involve murdering enemies. Law 14: pose as a friend, act as a spy. On who and for what reason would someone who reads this book apply this advice. Law 23: concentrate your forces. I don't have any... Now what?Who is this book for? I don't see why an average person would so desperately need to read it. Why do so many normies read this shit?
Kind of difficult to take the guy serious after he wrote a book about seduction. This ugly piece of roadkill couldn't seduce his way out of a paper bag. Without even looking it up, I'd wager a thousand bucks he's married to some fat ugly hog.
i think it's a book for blacks
>>25512144so you haven't read the book nor do you know anything about his romantic life and yet you share your opinion with us? brave
>>25513827If a literal retard writes a book about theoretical physics I don't need to read it to know that it's going to be bad.>anything about his romantic lifeWell, I just looked it up and pic related is his partner, so I guessed right.
>>25512144>>25513931I'm going to second >>25513827 on you not having read it, if you had you'd know that it has the same purpose as the 48 Laws and is generalized to any situation where someone's trying to persuade you to something or you need to persuade soneone else. Greene's a midwit, but it's still worse to be the kind of nitwit who looked at the title and thought it must just be a literal "how to pick up chicks" book.
In the medieval era, we seemed to value the Aeneid more than the Iliad or the Odyssey; before then, they valued the Iliad most highly. Now, though, we seem to have decided that the Odyssey is the superior hero, then the Iliad, and lastly the Aeneid. What gives? It's easy to find films and literature about the Iliad and Odyssey, whereas most people don't even recognise the name Aeneid.
Well for one thing, the availability of sources. The Aeneid is a much more recent work compared to the Homeric epics, and moreover was written in Latin originally, so there are far more complete and accurate copies of it in abundance. Whereas we have only incomplete fragments of most of the Homeric epics. Even the Odyssey is actually incomplete to this day, and both it and the Iliad are but smaller installments in a larger cycle which was lost long ago. It could be the Ancients had access to more complete versions of Homer's stories, or different versions and translations that changed their appreciation of them, compared to what survives in modernity. It is important to remember how fragile the continuity of knowledge and literature is, across millennia.
>>25513657>Even the Odyssey is actually incomplete to this daySource on this? But yeah it's kind of insane 6 out of 8 books in the epic cycle are just gone and no one bothered preserving that.
>>25513657>Even the Odyssey is actually incomplete to this day, and both it and the Iliad are but smaller installments in a larger cycle which was lost long ago.You are a bit misinformed here. Homer's Odyssey is complete. Homer only wrote 2 of the supposedly 8 parts of this larger epic cycle and were the only ones preserved. I am suspicious of this idea that there was a canon set of 8 stories that made up a single cycle in homer's day, rather than this being an arbitrary grouping coming from a later editor.
>>25514265(Cont) That is to say, I think a later editor likely stitched together a bunch of unrelated stories about the trojan war and its aftermath written by different authors at different times into a single "8 part epic cycle" of which only Homer's contributions were preserved, because they were the only ones worth preserving. Certainly the surviving plot summary of the Telegony, the part that comes after the odyssey, is a complete mess, and does not inspire confidence that it would have been a great work.
>>25513022>I don't get the obsession with The Odyssey at allIt's kind of a funky subversion of ancient Greek ideals and completely flips the Iliad on its head. Odysseus' modus operandi is typically washing up onto some strange island helpless and likely naked, openly sobbing, then lying and tricking his way out of a situation. His journey isn't one of conquest, but rather to simply return home, where he isn't even wholly welcomed but instead has to go on a murderous rampage against unarmed suitors. When he is first introduced in the story he crawls naked out of a pile of leaves and presents himself to some underage girls, (he's alone because he got his entire crew murdered along the way) then he convinces the citizens of this place to load him up with untold riches through rhetoric to the point where a god gets mad and curses their city and they end their culture of hospitality forever. Even prior to this we have the Telemachy, which is about a boy who grew up fatherless trying to get his shit together. I guess today in a vacuum it's not so special, but next to the Iliad it's pretty wild.
How was Lovecraft so insightful about the real world when so many other libtard Anglos believed in tabula rasa?
>>25512984He literally married a Jew. The guy was a pure xenophobe and that's what makes his stories so good. It just reeks of xenophobia but all that was pushed aside when those glorious Jewish milkers were in his face.
>>25514183I dont think enough people realize that being a xenophobic white guy with rock-solid prejudices or standards is appealing to women.
>>25514223At the end of the day men and women bow down to masculinity no matter what their ideology is. Action, manhood and vitality will always come out on top.
>>25514223He only lived with the jew for 9 months before physically separating from her in 1925 with her filing for divorce in 1929. This was followed by easily-found mountains of antisemitic statements from him right up to his death in 1937.
>>25514331Well of course he's going to revert back to antisemitism after those Jewish milkers are out the picture. KEK. As much as many here like to chastise women, men are so laughably predictable.
Let's discuss this guy. I love his Tales, they're peak short stories. They also feel very appropriate for Autumn. At least the ones about the Puritans do.
I like his short stories better than his novels. I had to read The Scarlet Letter for a class and just getting through the intro about working in The Customs House was sheer torture and had fuck all to do with the story and was mostly just him bitching about his coworkers.Young Goodman Brown was a great short story though.
I can't enjoy his prose no matter how I try. Can't stomach the stuff. Something about the frequency of commas, I'm really not sure.
I much prefer The House of the Seven Gables over The Scarlet Letter.
>>25514258I wish he wrote more essays. Far and away my favorite writing of his.>Speaking of summer-squashes, I must say a word of their beautiful and varied forms. They presented an endless diversity of urns and vases, shallow or deep, scalloped or plain, moulded in patterns which a sculptor would do well to copy, since Art has never invented anything more graceful. A hundred squashes in the garden were worth, in my eyes at least, of being rendered indestructible in marble. If ever Providence (but I know it never will) should assign me a superfluity of gold, part of it shall be expended for a service of plate, or most delicate porcelain, to be wrought into the shapes of summer-squashes gathered from vines which I will plant with my own hands. As dishes for containing vegetables, they would be peculiarly appropriate.>>25514263That was the best part of the novel and you hated it?
I want to start reading more non-fiction but spooky season is coming up. Any good non-fiction literature that fits the vibe?
>>25513194Didn't say I hate Halloween. Don't hate Halloween at all, actually. We're only five days into September. Halloween is FIFTY-SIX days away from now. You are premature (like the majority of your ejaculations, lmao) and thus, are a fucking faggot.Come back when Halloween is like, a week or two away and I'll allow you to make these posts.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCudoFlDSvccheck out this jam tho
>>25513985it's still back to school season, new iphone drops next week as usual for the last like 15 years or whatever
>>25514232Didn't. Ask.
A Storm of Witchcraft
What is your favorite trait in a literary protagonist? For me it's determination. I like a hero who is able to endure hardship and keep moving forward.
>>25513089I like a super strong character ready to sacrifice everything to protect something fragile.
>>25513387Cringe. He should only be ready to sacrifice for something worthy of protection.
>>25513274A protagonist can be a retard that doesn't do much in itself.
>>25513089Being an incel. I do not read gynoslave works.
>>25513089same. a character like ahab or achillies who does what he wants and won't let anything get in their way are easy to side with, provided that what they want is something more than pure material gain. it gives you a feeling of satisfaction that's hard to match.you should check out the french cartoon "lastman", the villian is just such a character. i love him.
Which is more impressive to have read?
>>25513090If you claim to have “read” FW I’m going to assume, likely correctly, that you’re just a performative twat who wants people to be stunned at how smart he is. Thus, reading it actually has the opposite of its intended effect
Finnegan's Wake by far, just for that killer opening line:>Begin again, Finnegan
>>25514230It is much worse to condemn someone for having read a book than to boast about having done the work
>>25514260No it isn’t
>>25514303Justify why inactive criticism is better than boastful activity, or remain silent
What is an author that encapsulates both of these vibes simultaneously?
>>25513576kek /lit/ won't get this one
>>25513442Jacques Sadoul, la Passion Selon Satan. It has a little bit of everything, alchemy, cats using telepathy, a Dreamland, lovecraftian monsters, torture, a little bit of rape and pedophilia and of course a lot of sex.
>>25513556That's a shame since racism and anti-semitism are completely logical, moral and good.
>>25514292The claims that anon made >>25513556 are outright lies btw aside from him being married to a jew for a period of time who he separated from. Leftists hate the fact Lovecraft was based and constantly try to rewrite history saying “he changed in the end” and he “saw the error of his ways” and it’s just complete bullshit lol.September 25, 1936 Letter to Virgil Finlay:>The negro is fundamentally the biological inferior of all White and even Mongolian races1935 Letter to William Frederick Coates:>Undeniably - all apart from the effects of natural change and altered philosophic-scientific-psychological perspective - the world of American taste & opinion is distinctly & lamentably jew-ridden as a result of the control of publicity media by New York Semitic groups.1934 Letter to F. Lee Baldwin:>The result is, that not a paper in New York dares to call its soul its own in dealing with the jews & with social & political questions affecting them. The whole press is absolutely enslaved in that direction, so that on the whole length & breadth of the city it is impossible to secure any public American utterance... This is what I mean by jewish control, & I'm damned if it doesn't make me see red.Lovecraft died in 1937 for reference. He was staunchly racist and antisemitic all the way to the end, God bless his beautiful soul.
>>25513442they're probably trans
warmth of the weirwood editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>25489280
>>25514105She was such a whore
>>25514059>Being able to see into any point in the past and across the world is Cerebro on crackNot really. That is a. expected magic feat. The green seers could do it. The Valyrians could do it. The Undying could do it. It’s implied that magic takes different form but has the same essence. >not to mention whatever warging shit he getsHe could only warg flocks of birds and a mentally retarded person. He didn’t call upon armies of the wild like the legends speak of green seers doing. He doesn’t shatter entire geographies like the alleged hammer of the waters. >If the theories of him warging into a dragon are correct he will be the most powerful magic user in the history of the ASOIAF world, no contest.Valyrians also controlled their dragons with sorcery. Perhaps a skinchanger would feel himself on fire if he tried to hop into “fire made flesh”. Maybe only someone with the blood of the dragon can do this. Bran has none of that. Jon however… Bloodraven…
>>255140591. Bran can’t change the past since his body is stuck in the present. 2. Skinchangers can’t control normal people, or only barely (it’s not pretty). 3. Seeing halfway across the world is an ability spoken of in numerous cultures.
>>25514242>>25514244Valyrians do have a bond with their dragons but it does not remotely correspond to actual skinchanging, we see firsthand that skinchanging is the complete melding of the minds of the skinchanger and beast. Jon/Bran/whoever warging into a dragon and melding their minds together would be completely different from Valyrians being able to call their dragons mentally and give them basic commands. The Valyrian society was in general more magical with all the blood magic they had, but that does not mean that an individual Valyrian had the magical ability that endgame Bran might have. A Valyrian using a glass candle does not equate to Bran being able to do those things naturally. I'll fully admit that this is speculation because for all we know Bran's powers will end up a wet fart like the TV show.
>>25514244>Bran can’t change the past since his body is stuck in the present.Not if his mind can travel back in time. And we know Bran can change the past since he fries Hodor's mind in the past (but we don't know if all backwards time travel will be stable time loops).
What are the best books to understand the American/global meat industry? How did this start and how did we get here?
>>25512288>I want to kill literally everything that exists. the fantasy of doing so gives me enormous pleasure.
Bump
>>25509687>unsustainable population growthImagine still believing this exists.
>>25513989kys
>>25514104U mad
I just finished reading A Season in Hell, and I can't stop re-reading it to enjoy the sheer artistry in it. I want to ask if there are any other prose poets as good as Arthur Rimbaud. I'd prefer prose poems that lean heavily toward the poem side of things, not just authors with a poetic writing style, though if options are thin, that's fine too.
>>25513716Which of his works do you like the most?
>>25509788he cute
I'll never tell.
>>25513092>Is this a prose poetry thread or a Rimbaud thread?It's the former but thank you for the suggestions anyways, even though I've read a few you've mentioned like Suttree.
>>25514053Images and Vignettes are really good examples of the artform, just collections of short but well-written paragraphs each designed to carry an image and a feeling. Litany of the Seven Kisses has a real musicality to it, and it has a pretty unique structure that almost plays with real verse, but not quite. The Princess Almeena is basically a painting in words.Smith was definitely a member of the weird fiction movement, and a lot of his poems, both verse and prose, include themes from the fantasy and horror genres as they existed in the 1920s. But he always considered himself a poet first and foremost, and he has a command over language that's very intriguing to hear out loud.
I've realized that most of my reading has been spent on fiction or history works. What books would you recommend if I actually want to learn practical things and develop useful skills?
https://www.abhayagiri.org/media/books/Breathing-Like-a-Buddha-Web.pdf
It entirely depends on what you're interested in. There are practical how-to books on just about anything you can imagine and they're pretty easy to find. If you want to develop practical skills that will help you get ahead in life, by far the most useful are strategic thinking and language skills, and those are learned by... reading history and fiction.
>>25513662The Woodburner Handbook by Bailey
>>25513662RIGHT WING BASICShttp://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pi20Rr9_BxBbMIfcZUTTGslfZTifEiCm....read moar learn moar
The Riddle of the Jews' Success by Theodor Fritschhttps://www.der-stuermer.org/english/Theodor%20Fritsch%20-%20The%20riddle%20of%20the%20jew's%20success.pdfEconomics for Helen" by Hilaire Belloc, the greatest economics primer ever writtenhttps://archive.org/details/economicsforhele0000bellThe Spirit of the Law by Montesquieuhttps://archive.org/details/spiritoflaws01montuoft/page/n9/mode/1upThe National System of Political Economy by Friedrich Listhttps://archive.org/details/nationalsystemof00list/page/n6/mode/1upThe Servile State by Hilaire Bellochttps://legiochristi.com/static/lit/H_Belloc_The_Servile_State.pdfComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I just started this today and binge read the first 11 pages in one sittingWhat am I in for? Should I like it or hate it?
>>25512173You're in for an excellent book. Enjoy the ride.
>>25512173It's a great book. The author complained that many readers finish the book with a romantic view of the Old West, which was the exact opposite of his intention, so he failed spectacularly at that.
>>25514203McMurtry was talented but he was an insecure hicklib who craved the approval of his coastal betters, most of whom did not have a fraction of his talent. Accidentally giving readers a romantic view of the West was the best thing he ever did and he was too insecure to take pride in it.
>>25514224I couldn't agree with you more.
>>25512173>binge read the first 11 pages in one sittingUhhh
do you care about the edition/covers of your books?
I just swap out the cover in Calibre if it's bad.
You people need to learn how to make dust jackets.
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>>25514195That's awful
>>25511929Thjs. Was gonna buy Mort but was really out of by how awful the cover art was
Why is this tweaker LARPing as a christcuck all of a sudden? Did he seriously get oneshotted by Dugin's Kremlin propaganda that masquerades as "deep theology"?
>>25512707Fascism died in the 20th century. This is something new and terrible
>>25512716Technofeudalism
>>25511419Kek I just saw that Elon used "thank the Lord" unironically. Maybe grift, maybe not, I have hope.
>>25512707Pretty much everyone in the Nazi and the fascist parties was an atheist.
>>25512808I guess you consider pagans, buddhists, hindus, and other various forms of occultists athiests?
