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>tfw rejected for publication again
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>>24895314
It never started. You were a waste of non renewable resources from your first breath. If you had any moral fiber you would kill yourself and cease the bleeding.
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>>24895322
I’m already planning to kill myself on new year you retard, now tell me something new and original instead of retarded platitudes.
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>>24895328
Why wait? Procrastination is the thief of time.
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>>24895334
You’re a fucking genius aren’t you? If procrastination wasn’t a problem I would have already written 5 novels, nitwit.
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>>24895356
Don’t get your panties in a twist.

I don't get the practicality of these things. Piss and shit are processed in the thigh pads – okay, but you're telling me the Fremen are shitting and pissing in these things while walking around in 45°C heat in the fucking desert? Give me a break. Imagine the rashes.
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>>24894187
>How surviving in the desert automatically makes you a supersoldier is anyone's guess.
The idea is not that it's the desert survival skills that made Fremen so much stronger than anyone else, but rather their martial-survival culture that fully unites everyone towards a sacred cause making everyone constantly ready and willing to give his everything up to and including his life, or take anyone's life, if the circumstances demand it. And that 's perceived by them as something so natural that they are perplexed by the water-fat outsiders not acting similarly. Meanwhile their opponents, particularly Sardaukar, are said to be decadent, disunited, soft, coddled, unwilling to take risks and make sacrifices, driven exclusively by petty interests. The desert is just the factor that made Fremen culture the way it is, with the text explicitly stating that Sardaukar themselves used to be similar, back when their prowess made the Golden Lion Throne, and before that very throne and it's power made them complacent over centuries and weak by removing any desert-like adversity from their everyday existence. The text also spells out that Fremen themselves grow soft and weak as Arrakis gets terraformed and life there stops being a constant struggle for survival.

The whole thing basically says
>bad place create strong men
>strong man make place good
>good place creates weak men
>weak men make place bad
Which is a simple and believable enough narrative for a fictional story.
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>>24894304
That's well and good, and it might indeed make them better fighters, but the degree to which it does is incredible. Harsh conditions toughen you up, they don't turn just about every person in your society into a mini Achilles. You don't see Inuit children casually beating up Army Rangers three at a time.
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>>24894187
>How surviving in the desert automatically makes you a supersoldier
It's just the old british martial races theory.
>Nepal is mostly a mountainous shithole that's difficult to survive in, and they've adapted for generations.
>Therefore they're naturally 5x better fighters than the average indian farmer, so we should recruit them
Obviously it's delusional but it sometimes became a self fulfilling prophecy
>sardaukar attack the sietch with Alia
Tbf the fremen also probably had access to weird space magic by that point anyway
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>>24894374

The fremen also consume as basically their primary food source the wonder substance that does everything, which improves basically everything by the body and is rare everywhere else. Sardaukar do eat spice as well but even they lack the resources to eat as much as the Fremen do. All fremen have hyper-senses, and therefore probably enhanced reflexes, along with being in better physical condition than pretty much anyone, simply from their unmatched access to spice.
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>>24895143
This makes more sense, but it creates another problem: if the fremen just have totally superhuman reflexes due to spice consumption and are vastly outperforming even the sardaukar mostly on the basis of sheer physicality, how do they lose one on one confrontations like Paul vs Jamis, where the latter is not only someone who grew up on a spice diet vs someone who did not, but is also a grown man, with a reputation as a strong fighter among the fremen, and fighting against a fifteen year old described as small for his age (who has the added disadvantages of being trained with shields while Jamis is not, and not being willing to kill at first)? Paul not only wins but dominates Jamis completely, which the story justifies with his superior training under Gurney and Duncan, but if the enormous gap in physical ability between the two can be made up for by that training, the sardaukar, also being extensively trained and having far less of a physical gap due to not being small boys, really shouldn't be too badly outmatched. Yet they lose to fremen women and children.

Stilgar also loses to Jessica, but whatever, this is already autistic and long-winded enough.

I've spent most of today trying to find an agent to represent my work. I kid you not I have not found ONE that doesn't include the following:
>BIPOC representation please!
>want women's lit
>romantasy exclusively
>fast paced and humorous! (i.e. Marvel quips)
>is a woman
>have about a gorillion submissions per day
>a sea of agents that you have to search one by one, only to find out most of them are close to submissions, the ones that are open want slop
>have an agency that's shut down
>dead

I don't wanna complain but holy fuck. Now I'll start going very niche to see if I find someone but the landscape looks very bleak. At least if you want to go the traditional route and don't want to become a tiktok mongrel doing dances to get the booktok audience, which I'm not even sure would work with what I wrote. I might end up self-publishing just to say I did it.
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>>24893106
it takes some authors years of submitting to get an agent. your journey has just begun
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>>24881198
AFAIK the ROI for publishing a book if you're ultra mega famous is like 10%, so you should expect like 1-5%.

I have written works, but the real question is if it's even worth the time it takes to publish.
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>>24893235
6 whole days now

>>24893316
Yeah, I've asked myself that question, too. But I'm not breaking my head too much with this.
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>>24894921
i have hit 100 submissions
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>>24895109
I kneel.

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Where can you find this verse in the Bible?
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>>24894411
>Ezra 2:41
>The singers: the children of Asaph, an hundred twenty and eight.
What the fuck are you trying to pull anon
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>>24894419
there's a lot of stuff going on with Esdras, this is apparently not canonical so you might have some trouble with the versions, in some cases it's known as 2Esdras, but in the Catholic bibles with Apocrypha I guess(it's not in the Clementina vulgate) 4 Esdras https://vulgate.org/ot/4esdras_4.htm
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>>24894382
Esdras has some strangeness going on
https://www.gotquestions.org/first-second-Esdras.html
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OP here. The translation is the from the Baronius Press parallel Clementine Vulgate-Douay-Rheims, Bishop Richard Challoner’s 1750 revision, but - in fact - he didn’t revise the Appendix to the Old Testament (the Prayer of Manasses, and 3 and 4 Esdras) but left the spelling, grammar, and vocabulary un-updated, and there are no notes nor chronology, but there are Biblical cross references including some to the New Testament. He even adds verse numbers to the chapter summary subtitles in case you want to skip along.
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>>24894454
Lutherans don’t include 1 and 2 Esdras in their Apocrypha. GotQuestions is wrong again.

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any books for men who have never seen a vagina irl?
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>>24892989
>jewish fairlytales
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>>24892862
Metro 2033. It accurately describes the journey through deep dark holes, of which you lack experience.
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>>24892862
>any books for men who have never seen a vagina irl?
Says the guy who has seen more vaginas and tits than his ancestors ever dreamed was possible

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Hello /lit/
I want to get into philosophy. I was recommended this:
Start with Plato’s Republic, then Descartes’ Meditations on first philosophy, then read Bertrand Russel’s history of western philosophy (apparently it is biased, but the point is to be able to disagree with Russel later on), and then if I’m interested in the Greeks, Reginald E Allen’s Greek Philosophy Thales to Aristotle. Is that all worth reading?
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>>24895001
kek you're a pseud making philosophy into whose line is it anyway "the subject where everything's made up and the results don't matter"
keep seething that people read other philisophers than the only two you read
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>>24892499
>Is that all worth reading?
Depends, for what end?
What you described is an ultra-speedrun of Western Philosophy from its "glory days" to its current, abysmal state. If you want to just check what's out there in general, it would probably be more beneficial to get an introduction or a couple. Then I'd recommend that you indulge in the particular topic you find interesting.
It's like listening to one track per genre vs coming to a well throught-out concert. In the former case you will be able to say you learned more, but the latter contains actual understanding. And the learning curve for most topics is incredibly interesting, since most topics (from universals to free will) have actually gone through so much development that the discussions of today barely relate to the original questions.
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I started with Will Durant's The Story of Philosophy first and then read things I found interesting. Durant's book will ground you w.r.t Western Philosophy. I think from this book I went to Plato's Dialogues and the Republic -> skipped Medieval Phil (sorry Catholicsisters) -> Decartes -> some Kant -> some Schopenhauer -> Heidegger -> a bachelor's degree focused on 20th and 21st century analytic philosophy
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>>24892499

First watch youtube videos JUST to get introduced to the main problems and philosophers, don't become a diehard advocate of certain school of thought in your first approach. After that, you can read Russell's history of philosophy (I only read the first volume about classic philosophy, which I think it's less controversial) and Russell's The Problems of Philosophy, perhaps peek a philosophical dictionary to get familiar with concepts (I'd like to recommend one but I'm ESL).

Then you can read Plato; almost everything by him is worthwhile and enjoyable but if you want to go faster, the most important dialogues in my opinion are: Eutiphro, Gorgias, Meno, Phaedo, Symposium, Phaedrus, Republic, Parmenides (hardest one by far, additional commentary is needed), Theaetetus and Sophist. The reading at this point, when you are actually tackling classics, has to be complemented with some writing. Take notes, organise ideas, come up with your own refutations or arguments, you decide how thorough those notes will be, but you have to write something. You can also complement the reading with secondary sources or commentaries, especially those which provide ordered lists of the interpretations for each dialogue that important philosophers have made. Some people might say "but this way you are not being an independent thinker, you are going to be brainwashed by academia", and to that I respond that as a starting point you have to humble and check from time to time that your interpretations are not diverting too much from the historical interpretations. I'd like to recommend books or video series in English with these characteristics, but again, I'm ESL, perhaps the Copleston manual, idk.

After you are done with Plato, you'll probably already have a strong foundation to decide what to read next, but Aristotle is obviously unskippable. Aristotle is very hard if you read him seriously and not in an arrogant way like "heh, I'm reading this outfashioned retard just to be able to get to Hegel and the homoerotic frenchcucks". Getting in depth into Aristotle is not for everyone, so I can tolerate that someone reads some of his works here and there at the same time they read something else, but if you do get in depth and write your interpretations, I'd say that you'll already be a philosopher. Maybe a bad philosopher with a lot to improve, a lot to read, but a philosopher at the end of the day. Not understanding scholasticism and Aristotle is modern day route to become a member of the mediocre philosophers stockpile.
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>>24892499
I bet that you ain't reading allat

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>try reading moby dick
>don't really have a history of reading books at all, been frying my brain for almost 20 years on the internet
>can hardly read one third of a page before my mind wanders off
Guess I'll just have to stick to writing
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>>24894359
Are you kidding? Being a reader is detrimental to achieving business success as a writer. Skim some Sanderson and tell me that's a writer who reads.
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>>24894363
This is legitimately the most low IQ cope I've seen all week, and I'm a fucking /pol/ dweller.
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>>24894359
I have published a book already
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Writers who don't read aren't writers they're masturbators.

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Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
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I took a page from the book
Why are you trying to lie to me
Covering up just to tell more lies
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I'll try again to find a reason to have you let me stay
Even though I'm in the red
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Even at my worst
I am still the best
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>>24885986
as usual the best poems in these threads go by unappreciated
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I tore a page from the ill-gotten book
Why, why are you trying to lie to me?
Covered for the sake of telling more lies

Why read a series with over 4.000 pages when the author clearly isnt finishing it in his lifetime?
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>>24892224
>The zombies are a metaphor for how power in the human realm is illusory and can end at any moment by plague, natural disaster, etc.
then the end of the book, still to be written, goes like this: the ice zombies kill everybody.
and this is the only decent end for these books.
i'm saying it for ages.

let's see how ends the series...: a girl kills the ice zombie king.
wow.
your theory now lies on the floor, bleeding.
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>>24892234
>Gurmfags constantly complain the series is unfinished
You just outed them as plebs and retards LOL.
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>>24893302
Imagine the state of his actual garden.
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>>24888028
Why live your 20 something years of life when I'm clearly going to skin you alive before you reproduce or manage to find even a monicrum of happiness?
I'm hunting you down anon, get ready.

>>24892468
>Why not have actual nature do it? Like as a sentient force.
Except that's literally what is in the books.
Children of the Forest are nature as a sentient force, and the Children almost certain created the White Walkers.
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>>24895294
>monicrum
modicum*
fuck.

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>but muh prose
Why do you still defend this shit?
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>>24895154
You greentexted the answer to your own question.
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>>24895154
It's a weird and weirdly accurate description of America's shabbier reaches, its one-horse towns and gas-station-anchored enclaves. It somehow gives the country cockeyed and novel dimensions, and yet makes them piercingly true.
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What's wrong with it?
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>>24895154
>but muh sensibilities
why you still moralfag make believe stories?

Spoiler a soft cover Lolita request is in it

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2025-jeffrey-epstein-emails-books/?taid=691764c827f3260001ff21ff&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_content=business&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
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>>24886167
That is bait, you tool.
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>>24884192
Hubbard is really, really interesting as a crossover figure between /lit/ and /x/. Not only is there the whole Scientology thing, Hubbard has a habit of being present when odd shit happens in history. He was part of the Babalon Working in 1946 with Jack Parsons.
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>>24881968
>SAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE HOLY TRINITY YOU BLOODY BASTERD BITCH
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>>24880247
>reading = believing
The absolute state of /lit/
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Great addition to our "worst covers" threads

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>using gay sex to travel back in time
The funniest shit i have ever read
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>>24894756
Reading words without processing them is your own fault, anon.
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>>24893698
If James Baldwin wrote like he was on psylocibin mushrooms I would've probably read him first, though amongst the gaylit available I'd much prefer to be treated to a French castle than the slums of NY.
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>>24895010
Most of the book takes place in central america, you decadent boob.
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>>24895050
are you guys interested in my story? it takes place in south america. it's also a little gay i guess, but not really
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Even though I sympathise with Burroughs his fiction doesn't seem to be that good desu

Specifically inner monologue

No talking to more women irl is not an option
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>>24888155
They all have extremely overtuned senses of self worth. I thnk this is the root trait that everything else falls from. If your female character isn't asking for the world and yet giving nothing back then it won't be believable.
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>>24888273
begone hole
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>>24891573
The average "individual" male wants different things than the average "individual" female. If you write too far outside the average to the point of being an outlier then it will feel uncanny.
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>>24888157
This shit is so stupid because it shows that men literally cannot comprehend the genuine psychological difference of the sexes. Write a man and take away reason and accountability and you get your average frat boy
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>>24891550
Autism probably. Autistic men have low empathy and are basically reptiles so they see women who have a fuller experience of emotions as irrational and insane

I wrote a short story today. I feel good. I may be a worse writer than Waldun, but it's like Waldun says, "Just keep writing and hone your craft. Eventually you'll have to write something good."
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>>24895009
Sorry, but I have morals, unlike you.
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I keep seeing threads of this guy surface and die within a hours on the board. Always when I look in, someone is saying the meme is stale or quit forcing this meme, but no one lays judgement on his work. Does he have stories published online?
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>>24894929
>Just keep writing and hone your craft. Eventually you'll have to write something good.
Then why hasn't Waldun written anything yet?
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>>24895091
He stopped writing and honing his craft. If he'd just have kept at it, we'd have a bonafide classic from Waldun by now.
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Just write what I feel

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What do you think of his prose, /lit/?
Opening:
>When I was a small and new boy, I'd sit outside the house with the animals. The animals were all over. Dog here, pigs around, horse grazing right next to the house, chickens underfoot, and no one thought anything of it. It didn't bother my mother or father, the animals being all around, nor did they take any pleasure in it. Animals were part of the home and part of every day. Feed the dog. Slop the pigs. Lay seed on the ground for the fowl, and tend to the horse in all the ways a horse needs tending.
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>>24894290
kek
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>>24893814
american ruralist literature is so fucking tiresome
seems fine. I've read dozens of openers that are exactly like this
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>>24893814
This is on par with BJ Novak's short story collection where I legitimately can't tell if he's doing some tongue-in-cheek mockery of the style poorly or he actually thinks this is good writing.
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>>24893814
>When I was a small and new boy, I'd sit outside the house with the animals
Why does it feel like he copied Fitzgeralds first line?
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>>24893814
>judge a work by a single paragraph
Dump the epub or fuck off.


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