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Philosophy and philosophers are generally a waste of time. The only philosopher I have any real time for is Plato, primarily because his thinking is foundational and also he is a proto-Christian thinker. To me, people like Clement of Alexandria and his pupil Origen, Christian theologians that mixed Platonist ideas in their thinking are far more valuable than the jokers of the enlightenment/romantic period like Kant or Hegel, or, God forbid, Schopenhauer. Of course the worst that philosophy has to offer is the stupid who are taken seriously such as Camus or the stupid and evil that are taken seriously, like Nietzsche, by far the worst offender in the realm of philosophy in terms of egotistical up-itself nonsense driven by a disdain for all that is good and pure. To quote Tolstoy in relation to Nietzsche (and to be fair this could be applied to other philosophers of the same period):

>"What will society be like if such a madman, and an evil madman, is acknowledged as a teacher?"

To me, truth lies in Christianity but there are elements of Buddhist thought that have a lot of credibility as far as I can see in my low level knowledge, particularly Mahayana Buddhism.
The reality is that it is as Nikola Tesla put it:

>"Buddhism and Christianity are the greatest religions both in number of disciples and in importance."
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>>24005075
oh but anon its all technicalities

maybe you're better off without philosophy anyway, no good for you, not suited to your temperament.
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>>24005204
>the soul is all there is and that life's misery detracts from achieving gnosis with the divine
Doesn't sound that bad. Why the hate?
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Read Oswald Spengler’s Decline of the West. He has an interesting take on philosophers and philosophy.
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You can make this thread again tomorrow or 10 years from now and it will change nothing about how based Hegel was
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Glad I made this thread. The seething is pretty funny

Fearsome Frights Edition

Welcome to /wbg/, the official thread for the discussion and development of fictional worlds and settings.
Here is where you can share the details of your created worlds such as lore, factions, magic systems, ecosystems and more. You can also post maps for your settings, as well as any relevant art, either created by you or used as inspiration for your work. Please remember that dialogue is what keeps the thread alive, so don't be afraid of giving someone feedback!

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"

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>World is mostly Grounded
>Mainly meaning no Stats screens and Levels
>Already introduced the ideas of Curses and Enchants loosley
>But they're just "Deal more damage to hard things then soft" or "Makes people bleed more when cut"
>Except I really fucking love Video Game style Enchants with levels like [Reaper III] inflicts damage to the undead greater then the previous Levels of the Enchant
>Really want to include this without running the setting
I guess I could explain that the curses or Enchants are "multiple" for the higher then Level, like it has three Enchants of [Bleed] on it making it [Blood Let III]?
I already have established Dungeons dropping enchanted loot because when Items fester with loose energy it becomes Enchanted or Cursed by the negative or positive energy.
So I guess this wouldn't be too much of a strentch?
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>>24006874
More a question on your original post and not too concerned with this one: do cultivation stories not already have this form of economy? I could be misinterpreting what you're considering or suggesting, but at the least I've seen this in Western stories with cultivation roots. Cradle does this with the scales, and though the dynamic there is that literally everyone is a cultivator, those of limited means are still garbage. Forge/Threads of Destiny has mortals where they're mostly separated as a society in large part because of these exact dynamics. It is not a fair world, and while the main setting tries to police cultivator abuse and maintain relatively safe life for mortals, there is no hard line and it's never policed entirely.
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>>24007464
Standard, Great, and Grand. That it's I'd say. That or add titles to it "Bleeding" becomes "Blood Letter" or "Sharpness" becomes "Honed", etc.
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>>24007600
Ah I have a grading system for weapons and armor in place.
But that's based on the quality, forger and materials.
That's why I was going with the roman numerals.
But I do like "Sharpness" becoming "Honed" and making them sound more fancy.
I guess I could make another ranking system for Enchants but I'd need to find a new naming scheme and try to not make it complicated.
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>>24007686
Get a thesaurus and your naming for special enchants and you're good
"A tier-III sword, made with the finest of metals by Argento himself, holding the enchantment titled "Enduring". Never shall it bend, break or even dull, under a hundred years of use. A fine blade I must say."

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Welcome to /pg/, where we read, write, and discuss pulp fiction. No, not the Tarantino film, but the classic genre stories from early 20th-century magazines printed on cheap wood *pulp* paper. These tales offered thrills for the common man and let imaginations soar. Though the magazines are gone, the spirit lives on, and here at /pg/, we explore the worlds, characters, and stories they inspired. So come on in and join the discussion!


READ PULP!
- The Eldritch Dark: http://www.eldritchdark.com/
- Luminist Archives - Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Weird Fiction: http://www.luminist.org/archives/SF/
- Luminist Archives - Fiction Magazines: http://www.luminist.org/archives/PU/
- The Pulp Magazines Project: https://www.pulpmags.org
- Project Gutenberg Sci-fi: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/bookshelf/68


LISTEN TO PULP!
- The Cybrarian’s Conan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmd1kGz5gLg [Open] [Embed]
- HorrorBabble's Clark Ashton Smith: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeNNKRLWxwoMd3hyVZOXrZKy3TJfeTxRd&si=pHdZhOqvZyZ4Zv2v
- HorrorBabble’s Cthulhu Mythos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJDIvebdG8U [Open] [Embed]

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The genre also has a lot of pulp books, not just magazines. Railway station bookshops used be full of them but now you're lucky if there's a bookshop at any transit hub.
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>>24008271
What are some good examples? Like Airport Novels?

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>The affected veneration for, and laudation of, Leibniz too, which has been showing itself everywhere for some years, proceed from the same source. They like to place him in a line with, nay above, Kant, having at times the assurance to call him the greatest of all German philosophers. Now, compared with Kant, Leibniz is a poor rushlight. Kant is a master mind, to whom mankind is indebted for the discovery of never-to-be-forgotten truths. One of his chief merits is precisely, to have delivered us from Leibniz and his humbug, from pre-established harmonies, monads and identitas indiscernibilium.
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>Now [Leibniz] is quite to the taste of my gentlemen of the philosophical trade. [He] does not stand in the way of earning a honest livelihood; it allows one to subsist; whereas such a thing as Kant's "Critique of all Speculative Theology" makes one's hair stand on end. Kant is consequently a wrong-headed man and one to be set aside. Vivat Leibniz! Vivat the 'philosophical trade!' Vivat old women's philosophy !
lmao this fucking guy
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>>24007722
And? Schopenhauer literally based his work off of Kant’s CPR. Of course he’d suck his dick.
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Learn to edit.

Here's the thing I don't get about Nietzsche no matter how much I read from him. His fear is that the ascetic ideal will lead to a crisis of nihilism in the future where men will completely renounce themselves in the absence of God. But our current society is not really ascetic at all. It's very indulgent in all the things that Nietzsche glorified -- artistic production, music, dance, excessive sensuality, etc. People consume what they want and do what they want. The world has never been so libertine. The asceticism of the Christians is derided, the priests are looked upon with disdain. Even the Christians themselves can't bear to attend church and hear talk about sin and punishment anymore.

So what exactly is our crisis then? We got rid of God and we got a flag on the moon. We got the most powerful and prosperous societies in the world. I fail to see how Christianity and the ascetic ideal are to be found anywhere in today's consumerist and globalized cesspool. You find it the most among leftists, but they are increasingly marginalized with every passing year because everyone knows their beliefs are a dead-end.
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>>24003347
He was also an elitist and yet is easily the most popular philosopher of our era. He dominates the bookstore shelves and has for years and years. He is the philosopher of modernity, the philosopher of the masses.

That should tell you something.

First, consider the whole "psychological cope," argument from psychoanalysis re religion and morality. Is it plausible? Maybe. But I can't think of a similar cope argument where people gobble down Nietzsche for infantile reasons because it is nice to hear "nothing you have ever done is wrong," and "you are God in your own moral life!"
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>>24007884
>That should tell you something.
Yes, it tells me that the modern masses don't read — but I knew that already.
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I'm an atheist and I admit that my life is empty without believing in the myth of god. Existentialists like to claim that I can create my own meaning in life, but that always rang hollow to me. Needless to say, I've developed a terrible beer addiction that I don't see myself dropping until I die.
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>>24008078
I'm sorry that you don't even believe in your own willpower to quit drinking. I don't think that has anything to do with God, though, just you.
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thoughts on our jew david leon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDiiWy-vAV4

What books does he read other than mathematical monographs and textbooks?
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>>24005715
Picrel is his favorite.
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>>24005694
Shampoo instructions
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>>24005715
No-one reads foraging guides in countries where it's a common activity and not hipster hobby. You are taught by your parents and grandparents what mushrooms you can and how to distinguish them from poisonous lookalikes.
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>>24005694
On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians
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>>24008227
>what mushrooms you can
Nah you're taught where the mushroom patch is and how to stop people from following you to it

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reddit: the author
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British humour is unironically adolescent dogshit.
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nerd culture is now reddit
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>>24008094
nureddit is nolonger oldreddit

>c: NSD VAX
perhaps normie sudden death vax?
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>>24006554
Nu-Chan is Reddit
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nu-reddit is post-chan

Why is medieval philosophy so fucking complex? In someways early modern thought feels like a huge simplifying step backwards.
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Occam’s razor came of the Middle Ages and led to the decline of Rube Goldberg type philosophy
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>>24007651
Making an actual demonic rock.
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>>24004856
OCD cattle farmers and ranchers autism.
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>>24007839
For what purpose?
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>>24004865
Nice bait

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Does anyone here read in the pub?
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Reading in a pub is pretty cringe. Although depends on the pub and town. I can imagine getting comfy in a traditional country tavern's snug area whilst drinking my Stella.
There's this obnoxious "poet" I know who claims she writes all her poems in pubs. She's already a massive pseud but one day after college I went for a drink with her and she showed me the table where she wrote most of her work and pulled out her Macbook and began writing poetry as I sat there. It wasn't even a nice, quiet pub like you'd expect. It was a busy Wetherspoons in a pretty trashy provincial town. Didn't exactly exude the same image she was hoping to achieve. I suppose she thought she was Chaucer or something when in reality she was writing her mediocre instagram poetry in the McDonald's of UK pubs.
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I wouldn't go to a pub for reading, but while living in Vienna i would fairly often go to diners/restaurants alone to have a meal, and a beer while i read my book.
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Sometimes. It all depends on the pub.
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>>24002198
too many hot young girls hit on me at the local
im readingg u desperate roastie
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>>24002198
>"TRIUMPHANT" – The Memetimes
>"STAGGERING" – Jewpress
Best way to make me never read the book.

What are some good books for It?
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>>23998589
Is prose or poetic edda the way to go? Or are they different enough both should be read?

Additionally, for poetic, is Lee m Hollander a good translation?
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>>23998589
Bulfinch's Mythology
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>>24006167
They're different
The Prose edda will sometimes quote poems from the Poetic edda but otherwise they're completely different works
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>>24007589
Also you'll want this edition
http://vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/EDDArestr.pdf
As for the Poetic Edda idk, I prefer the Oxford translation but some people prefer Lee M Hollander's translation
I recommend starting with Hávamál
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>>24007597
Thank you anon.

I think I'll go with the poetic first. If it's good I'll read the prose. Thank you for translation rec too

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Bonus points for more abstract, unorthodox hells. Extra bonus points for hells in which the protag/narrator doesn't know they're in hell.
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>>24005771
jesus man are you kidding.. lol
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>>24005760
Not so much hell, but Satan: the Monk: A Romance by Matthew Gregory Lewis. Definitely fits what you're looking for.

>>24005771
The author of this discussed his inspirations in the past, two of which were Joyce and C.S. Lewis: https://warosu.org/lit/thread/19536177#p19538465; I imagine the Joyce influence is from the sermon in Portrait of the Artist, and the author cites the Weight of Glory by Lewis, though I think Voyage to Venus has an interesting depiction of Satan.

The collection that image is from is also released at the-best-of-amp.github.io, and there's a thread up here >>23997997 (but there are no other stories about hell).

>>24006144
Been a couple years since my last read of Portrait, but that's not how I read it at all. The fact that Stephen continued to sin wasn't because the sermon had no effect, but rather showed that he had an incongruent mental logic that made both mentalities more extreme while feeding into each other; his sinful acts even more depraved because they increased his distance from God (in his mind). Remember that he wants to repent but feels himself too depraved to approach Mary/God/etc. Later he has an epiphany and overcomes that shame, which ends the cycle.
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>>24005760
Sartre's No Exit
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>>24005853
This was great, thanks.
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>>24005760
Unironically 1984. If you are familiar with the prophecies of Babylon the Great as foretold in the first and second epistles of John, you can construct a reading of Oceania as representing the reign of the Antichrist, with the state embodying an omnipotent-like power where the perpetuation of evil becomes its own good. Like in Dante's Inferno, the residents of this city of hell, due to their sinful nature, are unable to fully recognize and repent of their sins; hence, they are damned for all eternity. In 1984, we are duped into believing that Winston (He doesn't know he is in hell where no good is possible) is a moral character, and so is the rebellion, even though he says, "I hate goodness, I hate purity. I don't want virtue to exist anywhere," etc. Furthermore, many aspects of the state represent subversions of Christ's teachings, especially O'Brien's monologues in the third chapter, in which he positions himself as a Christlike figure, alluding to Matthew 4:6. Many other parallels can also be found, such as hell not being eternal but rather sempiternal, much like Ingsoc, which had a beginning but will never end. There is also the portrayal of the workers of the Thought Police as demons who, when their sinful nature is revealed, metamorphose and become disagreeable to the eye, etc. It is very prudent to read 1984 in this way, especially if you are interested in St. Augustine's idea of the City of the Damned or wish to imagine the confusion and suffering of the End Times.

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Can you explain how? I was about to begin my reading of portrait and just read the introduction to it in the Penguin Modern Classics version and I had the idea that it would be interpreted similar to Dubliners as cycles of silent stasis (the chained existence of the Irish national identity as related to the Roman Catholic Tradition) finally being overcome by an epiphany in which Stephen becomes Eloquent after beginning from baby lisping (Hence a bildungsroman as he is an orphan who has constructed his own identity).

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What are some genuine rags to riches biogrpahies?
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>>24006797
Napoleon: A Life by Andrew Roberts is great.
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>>24005597
Demades perhaps
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>>24005612
>Ronaldo
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>>24005597
Autobiography of Andrew Carnegie
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Craig Ferguson - American on Purpose.
He talks about how his life completely fell apart due to alcoholism, he talks about his failed marriages, until he gets sober and moves to American and makes something of himself.

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A perfect example of why the Inquisition was necessary. This man's ridiculous lies, obviously demonic in origin, and the influence he has had are just an example of why free speech doesn't work.
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>>24006599
Lol it makes sense now that BAP (real name Chaim Abrahamiu) is such a fan of Nietzsche. Poor Freddy didn't think his shabbos goy schizo babbling would be used by actual Jews to further cement themselves to the "dissident right" to subvert it into being inescapably pro-Israel.
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>>24008077
>"They're more capable of grander projects than modern day Europeans are, who are socialist primates in comparison"
>lol dumb goyim
Hello Moshe. How's the weather in Tel Aviv?
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>>24007750
I unironically believe my English is better than most people on this board. Including you with your "ain't" and your comma splice.
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>>24008077
Christian Socialism is based on the brotherhood of man, the primacy of the community, and love for one's neighbour. Jewish "aristocracy" is based on exploitation, profiteering, and globalisation. Socialism initially began as a right wing/Christian reaction to the industrial revolution, which destroyed community in favour of an anonymous individualism.
Nothing you've said about Christianity here makes it sound bad.
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>>24008102
>implying Christianity has nothing similar
You're so dishonest. If you knew anything about Christianity you would know that:
1. It deeply values the contemplative life
2. It keeps the same tradition of contemplation and not working every week, except it does it on Sunday instead of Saturday. Every Sunday Christians are supposed to go to mass and not work during that day so they can devote their time to prayer and contemplation.
This is Canon 1247 from the Code of Canon Law:
>On Sundays and other holy days of obligation the faithful are bound . . . to abstain from those labors and business concerns which impede the worship to be rendered to God, the joy which is proper to the Lord's Day, or the proper relaxation of mind and body.
Will Nietzscheans ever stop lying about us?

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Every LitRPG-reading friend of mine recommends me this, but...

I've given numerous ongoing webnovels on RoyalRoad and Sanderson fantasies a chance and they all have been absolutely terrible, so at this point I doubt I've happened to pick bad ones at random, it's more like the entire fantasy genre is trash aimed at toddlers and manchildren. Every time I try to read one of "the good ones" I'm back to rereading Blood Meridian or Behold a Pale Horse or 1984 for the 1000th time within just a few hours.

I want to give my friends the benefit of the doubt, but the fact that this book's main selling-point seems to be le quirky talking cat repels me harder than maggots on food. Your opinion, /lit/?
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>>24007169
if you like the idea of litRPG but not the execution, try project lawful. different take on a similar concept.
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I REFUSE to believe you cannot find better webfiction to be autistic over then this.
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>>24007311
...or for any heterosexual non-childminded non-retard with a modicum of taste for actually decent literature
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>>24007329
>project lawful
read the first three entries
https://www.projectlawful.com/board_sections/703
also pretty gay, my nigga
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>>24008148
Maybe if you weren't so bitter you could enjoy life a bit.

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>the-best-of-amp.github.io

This is an unofficial anthology of the best writing to appear within the pages of the /lit/ magazine &amp between January 2021 and July 2022.

The best-of has 100 pages and includes nearly 50 pieces of writing (consisting of fiction and poetry), both written and selected by myself and anons here on /lit/. Here they've been re-edited, re-typeset, and re-illustrated by myself. There's a PDF of this thing for free, and you can order a glossy print copy of it for as cheap as I could make it on Lulu.com (at $0 margin it's $10.34 CAD before shipping).

&amp itself was a magazine here on /lit/ that took submissions from anons and put them together in a monthly-ish PDF you could browse through while shooting the shit in a release thread. There wasn't a real filter on the writing, so it was a mixed bag in terms of quality and content, but certain pieces stood out and the release threads typically had pieces name-dropped as good or as favourites. Those pieces ended up forming the backbone of the selection here, though there were threads in the fall of 2022 where I actively sought out recommendations and formed a proper list. Now two years later, here it is all put together.

>the-best-of-amp.github.io/assets/the_best_of_amp_digital.pdf
>www.lulu.com/shop/lit/amp-the-best-of-issues-001-014/paperback/product-v846vq6.html

(Caution about ordering it in print since I don't have my hands on my own copy yet, so I can't guarantee it all came through perfectly.)

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The last little secret for now is that for the introduction I'd planned to do an homage to Rural Life by blaming the overlong project timeline on getting kicked out of my mom's house for fucking the cat, and that I'd slip it in just like the original and carry on. Then it really freaked me out trying to imagine how I'd frame the whole intro to fit that (when the intro already seemed daunting). Finally a friend said
>Wow, first you reject the story, then you rip it off?
as a joke but they were right. So I fucked the dog instead.
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How many have sold so far? Any pics of the physical version?
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I'm thinking of making my own lit magazine and leaving copies around the city near me. Is this a good idea?
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>>24007724
take your biggest fan's advice you fucking loser
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>>24007745
Pic rel is the best I've got for an idea of what the print copy will look like; the spine has text and this neat little band that stretches to the front and back. No update yet on the shipping of my own copy.

Sold 9 copies so far (though someone ordered two). Goes about one a day. I'm still getting email responses from some of the authors, and I'm assuming they're among the most interested in getting print copies.

>>24007998
Do it. The shipping on Lulu is less insane if you order in a batch, and you can check out what your magazines specs will cost you.

Lit magazine or /lit/ magazine?


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