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What did I think about this book?
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>>25125233
Not very good
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You thought it was Just Okay, not great nor terrible, and lamented the surfeit of Just Okay books in this world. You are troubled by the lack of incentives, either commercial or social, to produce great work, and you suspect that your culture will not be long remembered.
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>>25125484
He's a hack talking about space and shit
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I think he should get around to writing the next volume of Cheshire Crossing.
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I was surprised by how hard it was trying to be woke. Most authors shift towards wokeness as they gain fame, but Weir hit the ground running and then dropped it immediately after his debut.

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What the fuck was Marx doing
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>>25126722
>Can some anti-communist explain why they employ such thought terminating cliches, typical of television educated boomers and other such easily propagandized people?
because it keep its simple and, much to your possible, or not, dismay, it holds truth
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>>25126893
pretty sure you need to read anon's whole post again, buddy.
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>>25126781
this, he was a serious journalist to the side of all his political economy works, none of which retards here have read. 98% of anti-communism is literally programming implanted into peoples heads by their retarded grade school womyn teachers growing up. the biggest tell on anti-communism is how often it was aligned with the mafia throughout the cold war.
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>>25126916
i read it all buddy, and it doesnt need any more of my attention. communism fails not only as a system, but also morally, for the same reasons that anon listed. communism as an ethical set of rules to how a state should go crumbles because nobody, absolutely nobody, can fulfill what communism asks them to do, not for long at the very least.

much like religion, it asks you, and everybody else, to be perfect and if that doesnt happen, well
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>>25126732
did it ever occur to you that actually well read people dont often post here, and that you are a retard?

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Once you pop you just can't stop. And how could you, given that nothing satisfies or indeed can ever satisfy the will, which is always striving and thus suffering as long as it is not satisfied; but no satisfaction is lasting; insted, it is only the beginning of a new striving. But there is no final goal of striving, and therefore no bounds or end to suffering, and for our constant struggle for more Pringles
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What is this from, anon?
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>>25126753
The World as Will and Representation

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>writer uses the phrase "en masse" to mean "in bunches"
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En masse means all together, in unison, collectively. E.g. they broke into song en masse
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>>25125799
I love that phrase!
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>>25125805
"Rife with" is the most yewish phrase one can find.
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Enmasse should only ever be preceded by "slaughtered"
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>>25126911
En masse is used to describe the subject, not object, so yeah

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Based Non fiction books on autism ?
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>>25123745
My diary desu
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>>25124558
of course it was an insecure whore who started to talk about a spectrum and trivializing upbringing

had to be
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>>25125782
"Whatever in da hood go down and dey ain't holler at me it ain't greenlit"
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>>25123745
There are none. Autism is very rare compared to personality disorders and character neurosis. Personality issues can reduce self-reflective function causing people to think they have autism. Usually there's very little neurodevelopmental about it.
You are better off reading about psychoanalysis because when you understand psychodynamics you will be able to clearly differentiate what's neurodevelopmental and what's characterological.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlmNqJqEC-Y

—Ulysses! that whole business again, well it's not true it's bullshit I did not read it I'm telling you I did not read the damn thing I did not . . . In that cramped interval between his fingers' faltering insistence and the floor's mute expectancy, the cylindrical burden already half‑forgotten as an object and remembered only as the fleeting damp it had impressed upon his palm described its reluctant descent, a kind of minor abdication enacted with all the misplaced ceremony of something that had never belonged to his grasp in the first place. —Oh hi Anon.
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>>25123308
Bast changes quite a bit as JR becomes more prominent, That was my same issue with his voice being a bit too much like Wyatt's but in retrospect it was actually more Otto and pretty great. Gaddis does not want you to like Bast in that first part and the first 75 pages or so are a bit of a drag but once things start happening everything picks up and the reasons for Gaddis making us suffer starts to make sense.

Bast does not actually change, his situation does which gives us a better view of his character. In the first ~75 pages what Gaddis is actually doing is setting up Bast as someone who has spent his entire life being sheltered from everything, his getting the job at the school is the beginning of his entering a world he knows nothing about and he knows very little outside of music. The dialogue centric style makes it difficult for Gaddis to give background information on the characters, so Bast becomes a stereotype and that combined with his relationship with his aunts and Father give us a great deal indirectly despite almost nothing being spelled out directly.

We pick up on all this even if we don't realize it, I did not put it together until I started answering your question but it was all there and I had to have understood this on some level to get later stuff. Gaddis exploits our natural tendencies to judge people before we get to know them and he does it very well. We actually have all of Bast's childhood figured out by the end of his first scene, it is why we dislike him.

Stick with it, just keeps getting better.
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>conversation between Bast and JR at the museum
Fuck me, that was amazing, read it three times.
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>>25069117
have you read Carpenter's Gothic? I am also of the mind that it is nothing more than supplementary reading to Frolic, but it does feature a self-insert character who sells out to the CIA.
All of the postmodernists are CIA agents yo. Ruggles, Burroughs Gaddis. All of em.
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William Gaddis, or as I like to call him: the Clown Prince of Postmodernism.
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>>25044548
Gaddis won the debate.

WHY DIDN'T BRO USE HIS FINGERS AND MOUTH???
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>>25126717
Every book is about this, pretty much. Like name a book that isn't.
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>>25126281
A form of sodomy . . . why do that? Cunnilingus and using your finger . . . Unnatural.
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Replacing pronouns with "bro" should be a bannable offense.
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>>25126742
so should prescriptivism
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>>25126281
How undignified.

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>Prose poetry
There is no such thing, some things are just mutualy exclusive.

If it doesn't have a rigorous meter, or at least a fluctuating one that follows certain second order rules, it's not poetry.
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>>25126444
But there is a difference between the two examples. The former don't aspire to heightened musicality; the latter do. You will much easily find metrical forms in many passages in the 2nd group than in the 1st. It's not just well written prose; may as well call poetry just well written prose with line breaks then.
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>>25126020
>>>/v/ is over that way
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>>25125540
>You cannot have rhythm without verse
Just say you’ve never noticed Ahab’s speeches in Moby-Dick are in blank verse, there’s no need to pretend to be intelligent to impress 4chan
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>>25126465
>Homer's extended similies are poetic subjects, so they become prose poetry.

I don't buy it
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With how often this comes up, it's obvious that some of you unironically believe this. Which is fine, we all have our lines in the sand. But just know that means that you think trash pop/rap music qualifies definitively as poetry, while you believe Walt Whitman, TS Eliot, etc, do not. You can dig your heels in on the issue, or you can let go of your elementary understanding of categories and definitions. The only person you're hurting is yourself. Free-verse enjoyers are generally unbothered by such trivialities.

>tfw you don't have a good used book shop near you
Not living in the Northeast feels
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>>25123935
They take what they can get. I live in an old university town and my used book store is full of encyclopedias, classics and memoirs going back hundreds of years. Do you live in an urban or suburban area?
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Internet killed book stores. I've made my peace with it.
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>>25123940
OP is talking about used book stores, lrn2read
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>>25123927
I think our local book sellers are some kind of tax fraud because they sell new books for under 5, and their secondhand place is able to compete next door to another of their branches
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>>25124421
Soulless

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Genesis is the worst book ever written. It begins with the notion that the initial state of the world was primordial waters that God split in two. This was not a novel idea, and was plagarized from other societies. It omits the mention of black holes and dark matrer, and presents itself as ignorant about outer space. The universe being created in seven days has no truth to it, not even if you regard a day as a period, the universe was not created in seven distinct periods. This was absolutely just inserted to retroactively explain why there were seven weekdays and to justify a day of rest, there were already seven weekdays before Genesis was written, and seven is a distinctly human number, being the all time favorite number of mankind throughout history, which is a big red flag the book was written by humans. Genesis 2 is clearly a separate document from Genesis 1, not only because it goes back in time to the creation of man from the start to "explain in more detail", but also because it uses a different word for God, indicating a different author was writing Gen 2.
(Part 1).
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Read picrel
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>>25123662
>In Enuma Elish men are created merely to be the slaves of the gods
So…how is that different from the Abrahamic faiths?
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>>25123663
it could just be a white guy pretending
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>>25126706
Man was created in the image of a single omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent god, with natural dignity, blessed, given dominion over the rest of that god's creatures, and encouraged to reproduce. You can argue whether or not it reaches the same end, but the framing is different to begin with, considering that in Enuma Elish man was created by Ea from the blood of Kingu, Tiamat's consort and chief of her deicidal army of monsters.
>And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.
>What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou thinkest of him? Yet thou hast made him but little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
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>>25123312
What's your favorite book about "black" "holes" eh?

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pleasantly surprised by this. it's like if Stephen King wasn't afraid of not appealing to normies.
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Fun book.
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>>25123277
wanting to read this but as superficial as it sounds the author's pen name of "Jack Ketchum" pisses me off so much and makes me think of Pokemon rather than Jack the killer like he intended so it puts me out of it.
I just read His Pain by Wrath James White, I just recently got into extreme horror / splatterpunk after reading some Clive Barker.
Part of me has trouble reading things like this because I usually view reading through the lends of benefit and entertainment rather than just entertainment. I realize it's dumb and you can gain something from nearly anything but I feel silly sitting down to read something like this. not really sure how to articulate it.
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>>25124986
>author's pen name of "Jack Ketchum" pisses me off so much and makes me think of Pokemon
Lol me too.
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QRD?
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Off Season by Jack Ketchum is a brutal 1980 splatterpunk novel where a group of New York friends vacationing in a remote Maine cabin are hunted by a clan of inbred, cannibalistic savages. The story follows Carla and her friends, who become trapped and must fight to survive against the feral locals.
google AI gave that for a synopsis.
it's a splatterpunk(?) / extreme horror novel.

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>ruins writing forever
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>>25124984
But what are tropes if not atomized genres? What's the difference of a noble women picking up Romeo and Juliet for the romance and drama from Ashley from Seattle picking up Deep End for the college romance?
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>>25123564
That's not LLMs
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>>25124984
>then showing your work in your advertising - that's very new
If you read the reddit post you've taken that pic from, the OP was talking about random bookstagram accounts making these pics. She was just wondering if the publisher was the one to market the book this way.
My guess is that those were just AI accounts hallucinating.
>Now those labels have never been more important, and god help you if you don't meet your reader's expectations.
Nah, visual novels have this shit (example https://vndb.org/v2002) and every public library has this shit (example https://ls2pac.lapl.org/responsive?section=titleDetails&id=5957336118).
Do you actually only read romance novels?
Because in that case, yeah, before COVID western romance novels weren't this focused on tropes. But outside that, there isn't this much of a drastic change in how literary tropes (or "subjects", or "tags") are used and perceived.
You can calm your tits and grab a random novel by Danielle Steel if you really need a romance novel without tropes.
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>>25123564
That's not Discord
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>>25123564
This is essentially the Hilary Layne argument and I disagree with her the same as I disagree with you: yes, fanfiction is paint-by-numbers slop with terrible prose (and YA lit is effectively the same but with a serious and adult air about it) but why read it if you don't like it?

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Seems like there's a new Moby-Dick thread every week at this point, and while it certainly merits discussion, it is rather sad that all his other works have been underlooked, considering that they are also exceedingly well written and generally contain enough interesting happenings to warrant a read. Anyone read his first biographical adventure novels? His short stories? His poetry? Pierre, The Confidence Man, Israel Potter, Mardi? What did you think of them? Nobody talks about them at all despite many of them being nearly as good as Moby-Dick.

I'll start, with Typee, his first work; though this was his most popular well into the 20th Century, I would be very surprised for basically anyone else to have read it, since it contains essentially no literary merit unless you're curious about Melville's beginning. I read it after Moby-Dick and the difference between the two is so jarring it was hard to believe it was written by the same man at all, and only 5 years apart at that. Moreover, the novel is so fun, fast paced, and completely the opposite of what people tend to think of when they think "Melville" (long dissertations on the biology of whales & a plot that takes ten chapters to actually get anywhere); yet, I think that Melville's beginnings as an adventure writer were actually far more vital to the seemingly languid Moby-Dick than most realize, with Captain Ahab and Queequeg being the result of a background in epic fiction that ventured far out into strange, unknown lands.
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Redburn, Clarel, Billy Budd, Bartleby

>>25126205
Moby dick is about finding God,. Clarel is about rejecting him once you've found him. It's obvious why one is more popular than the other
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>>25125801
It's hard to discuss other works with Moby Dick being what it is. I really enjoy White Jacket, a absolute amazing novel and a classic of naval literature.
I do not remember much from Redburn, Typee, Omoo, or Mardi. Billy Budd is great. Have only read a bit of his poetry and was not super captivated but will give it another shot at some point.
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Confidence man is unique and ambitious. The first half is fast-paced. The relationship between mark and knave is fairly good natured. There seems to be a wider ongoing, networked conspiracy, but accomplices are suggested never confirmed. The second half of the novel focuses on a character referred to as the Cosmopolitan, or Frank Goodman. His con game is also only suggested, never defined, so some readers may question if he was truly a conman at all. I think his motivation was to convince people to have confidence in humanity, like a blind doctrine of faith. Hypocrisy and self-deception are major themes along with the meta irony of Melville, a knave posing as author, diddling the reader.
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Why did he hate lightning rods?
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>>25126883
Shocking, isn't it?

>Dude it's boring on purpose
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>>25126874
So boring he killed himself.

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The story of Christianity/Abrahamism is men reading the bible 'once again' and again and again, until suddenly a dream within compels them to read something else. Because the bible is never enough. It has never satisfied the reader.
Again and again literary revivalist movements have sprung up in the west after periods of illiterate bible thumping.

THIS IS NOT ENOUGH
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>>25125869
It's compromised theologically. Ecumenist tendencies. And there are far too few notes to even count as a study bible, insufficient.
But guess what? Everything else is even worse.
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>>25125869
i recommend a protestant KJV and a NOAB 5th edition, the first for the prose and the second for clarity and historical understanding
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>>25125869
Stay clear. It contains basic grammatical mistakes. Get a KJV without study notes. They are usually just in the way.
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>>25125869
I’d hold out until Oxford puts out their Ancient Christian Stufy Bible. The OSB is basically ex-Protestant bullshit down to them taking the NKJV and making it conform to the LXX instead of translating from scratch
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Still waiting for this to be shipped out. Finally got an email update after not hearing much since December. Should be shipping out in a month.


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