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>Career professional woman finds herself in a compromising situation with someone beneath her, whom she doesn't respect
>This someone caused immense damage to her daughter
>The story flashes back to the damaging act
>Goes into gruesome detail
>Reader gets full context
>Comes back to the present
>Reader understands the woman's rage
>Reader is invested in the woman's justice
>Chapter 1 ends

>Chapter 2
>"She looked forward to the taste of his ass..."
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>>25256096
bmp
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>>25257481
bumpbump
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>>25248798
You should add a section to the book where one of the main characters was accidentally left on Mars. You should try to make the audience sympathetic to this character. You can do this by adding a small part of detail on the character and their possible return to Earth at the end of every chapter —whether the chapter previously mentioned them or not. Essentially, this forces the audience to want to continue reading through your chapters to get to the part of the person trapped on Mars.
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>>25256096
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ive decided to make a general. just to complete this character experment, i'll leave this thread to die, but within the construct of the thread move characters to the general. i think this could be an adjunct to the other generals regarding writing. ill be back with the next scene.
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bmp. still working on it.

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Post /lit/-related gadgets that you use.
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>>25255675
Dirty dog
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>>25255653
Anyone seen with that deserves to be beaten up.
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>>25255653
You don't use that.
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>>25261123
i most certainly goddamn do.
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>>25259959
When you close a book, this piece of steel can cut the page if you are not alert. Tiny cut, but putting effort into doing this activity is a waste of time.

You can try a bookmark with a feather; it's not a bad idea.

Daily reminder that Epicurus wrote over 300 works on philosophy, natural science and ethics that are all lost.
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>>25259799
Humans can only have so many ideas. They are floating around fir anyone to grab a hold of.
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>>25256029
Didn't Porphyry say that the bible isn't Jewish in origin and nobody had any idea where it really came from?
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>>25259802
Ok Jung, take your pills now.
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>>25260616
Not an argument
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>>25259799
Plato had talked about this phenomenon.

Beloved fantasy author Christopher Paolini takes issue with Nolan's upcoming adaptation of The Odyssey, sc. the line
>You're pining for a daddie

Was it a mistake for Nolan to use Emily Wilson's translation as a starting point?
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>>25261172
Zulu warriors finna dab on some Greeks.
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>>25261172
supposedly the laestrygonians
funny threads on /tv/ ripping the trailer apart.
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>>25261172
Big guys
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>>25261073
This is a great essay and it strikes to the heart of why Emily Wilson's translation is such filthy, filthy dogshit.

>Tell me the story of a complicated man

Defuses the heroic atmosphere, from the very first line, and discorages by design any reverence that the reader might have for the content, which is precisely what's on display in the Nolan film.
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>>25261073
I hate James Branch Cabell so fucking much. I knew his name was going to pop up sooner or later in that essay.

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>there is no seduction which cannot at some point be construed as intrusion or harassment because there will always be a point when one has to expose oneself and ‘make a pass’. But, of course, seduction doesn’t involve incorrect harassment throughout. When you make a pass, you expose yourself to the Other (the potential partner), and her reaction will determine whether what you just did was harassment or a successful act of seduction.
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>>25256505
Sniff
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>>25259569
alas... I am undone
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>>25257197
Based thirty year old unc using the "plausible deniability" technique of "seduction"
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>>25261428
Almost nobody ever asks you to come over for sex if you haven't done it before, no matter obvious the real purpose of coming over is
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>>25256505
My favorite thing this dude ever said was "shleeeett *spitting* echht zeeersss *spit* chhhhhh marx"

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I think most of us have long since grown out of Peterson, but bros, I'm going to be sad if he dies to benzos. I would probably not have read Dostoevsky, Nietzsche and Kierkegaard if it wasn't for him and became the pseud that I have today.
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>>25261420
I just learned Peterson had a spat with the pope three years ago lol.
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>>25261420
tranny false flag thread
Criticize them ONCE and this is what you have to deal with every single day for the rest of eternity
You have male pattern baldness btw
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>We have Chris Hedges at home, eh

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Harriet Monroe Edition
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others
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>>25260201
Whenever I read his poetry I’m reminded of the smell of my great great grandfather’s house and it produces a kind of nostalgia in me.
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>>25260941
Larkin is absolutely the /lit/ poet.

Complains about wageslaving
Complains about not getting any
Compains about there not being any decent porn on TV after he went to all the trouble of buying one
Complains about niggers and commies ruining his country
Complains about getting old
Rhymes and scans
Actually good
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Got a couple of pieces here that I wrote just for funsies. I’m too much of a bitch to share my serious stuff. Shout out to the anon shitting up this thread with his whining. Just keep writing, bucko. You’ll eventually put out something that won’t make us cringe.

1/2
A rush of pure euphoria hit
When I pushed flush inside you
Feeling every ripple of your tight slit

When I licked your pretty feet
Which on my tongue felt so real
I knew the shape was soon complete

Watching your mouth moan agape
Desperately pumping you wanting more
I finally began to stir and wake
From fucking you raw on my floor

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Looking at the camel shaped candy
Hating it
It still doesn't melt.
Mr. You Don't Want to Know, tell me
if the sac cries.
When was the time for fingering
the violin inside.
My woman woke up the same as yesterday
Just ironing crusty panties and
saying no to proposals.
The new part comes from China
in a month or two.
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>>25260079
I posted an actual poem here a while ago. Though, come to think of it, it was a shitpost which made fun of poetry, so you may have a point.

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Guys, if I worked really hard and practised every day, could I hate women as much as our man Arthur did?
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>>25261303
For having the same opinion as 80% of 4chan?
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>>25261455
They aren't retarded.
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>>25260333
Marx seems to most approachable.
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>>25261303
That would be the British actually.

Just finished this version of the Iliad.
It was very enjoyable and although challenging, I could understand it very well, and it is indeed beautifully written.

I want to read the Odyssey next, and would like to venture into another translation, any recommended if I liked this one from Fagles?
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>>25260843
When I was looking into translators, my impression of Fagles was pretty writing, but tries too hard at the cost of directness. I went with Lattimore for a good balance between plain and poetic. Very safe and solid choice, supposedly more true to the original too.
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>Fitzgerald
Sing in me, Muse, and through me tell the story
of that man skilled in all ways of contending,
the wanderer, harried for years on end,
after he plundered the stronghold
on the proud height of Troy.
He saw the townlands
and learned the minds of many distant men,
and weathered many bitter nights and days
in his deep heart at sea, while he fought only
to save his life, to bring his shipmates home.
But not by will nor valor could he save them,
for their own recklessness destroyed them all—
children and fools, they killed and feasted on
the cattle of Lord Hêlios, the Sun,

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>>25260928
>Mandelbaum
Muse, tell me of the man of many wiles,
the man who wandered many paths of exile
after he sacked Troy’s sacred citadel.
He saw the cities—mapped the minds—of many;
and on the sea, his spirit suffered every
adversity—to keep his life intact,
to bring his comrades back. In that last task,
he will was firm and fast, and yet he failed:
he could not save his comrades. Fools, they foiled
themselves: they ate the oxen of the Sun,
the herd of Hélios Hypérion;
the lord of light requited their transgression—
he took away the day of their return.

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>>25260843
Just read Fagles again. I actually think his Odyssey his better than his Iliad. If you decide to revisit Homer someday (which you should), go for Lattimore first, and then a more poetic approach like any of the ones from the anon above except Wilson
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>>25260928
>>25260929
Some parts I like about Fitzgerald more and some Lattimore more, both have some turns of phrase I don't quite like, but they're clearly the two best.

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>long as fuck names for characters, places, concepts etc (had to write them down to memorize them)
>weird non-flowing sentences
>lots of poetry-ish sounding sentences
It seems like the author literally translated ancient chinese slang into modern day english, its just difficult for me to read. Anybody else experience this?
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I want to give this an actual try, so I wish someone takes it on themselves to retranslate and edit it properly, because from what little I read, the writing is pure garbage. Same with other popular translated webnovels.
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What I like about Webnovels is that in a way they represent the un-edited version of the story. Novels usually skip a few steps in between that needs to be filled in by the reader but Webnovels go ahead and fill in most of the blanks. It makes the experiance richer, personally speaking. All the details and thoughts added in gives a flavor.

That is to say I don't mind the length of RI, and the payoff is tremendous. Fate arc is especially where this shines. I still haven't seen any other story that hits as hard about going against Fate as this one.

>>25258573
Regarding Translations, there are multiple versions initially, but go through the starting bunch and it gets better. And you get used to the style as well
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>>25256285
No they don’t trust me, there’s no possible ‘perfect’ or ‘good’ translation of Chinese literature. I’m Chinese, I can read both and you lose all context of poetry in the translated version where 90% of the text barely glosses over the real meaning. You also don’t know the cultural context.
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>>25258655
I don't care about poetry. I guess RI English version is better than the original in Chinese.
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>>25194386
>>25235474
>>25258583
Best place to read this/best translation of it? Never read a chinese webnovel or anything xianxia

Kys bakker fag and screencap nig
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>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
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>>25261500
>>25261500
Goodreads only recently added an official did not finish shelf, after intense pressure and over a decade later. Other sites have it. This is the case for everything though. It's also a matter of semantics. Many people also do a lot at once and drop it without saying that. They claim they'll get back to it someday, but never do.

As for not finishing series, here's a few examples from Goodreads ratings.

Dune: 1.6m
Dune Messiah: 421k
Only 25% read the next book.

Red Rising: 865k
Golden Son: 534k

Too Like The Lightning: 16k
Seven Surrenders: 7k

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>>25261589
Anon you are replying to a 15yo that dont even have a top 5 books cause he hasnt read 5
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>>25261295
Watching BSG (and LOST) with /tv/ was a fun time. Shame about their endings.
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>>25261611
Let's not give up on the youth so easily.
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>>25261456
>the idea that Books generally being more inclined to leaning on an ending to make a host of prior assumptions framed as facts coherent.
That is not at all the case and it is utterly bizarre thing to say. What have you been reading that makes you think this is a default feature of literally ALL books? By your own confession you have not read anything but a handful of YA books. This is like picking up roblox and going "okay so basically all video games are about building stuff" or something.

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If you can have any /lit/-related wish granted, what would it be?
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>>25260655
brown hands typed this post
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>>25261089
cope
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>>25260731
I don't think so

>>25261089
Lolno

>>25261105
Lmao yeah it might be the bad posture. I dislike how they're dressed too.

>>25261091
No
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>>25255887
I'd write books with the popularity of Harry Potter, the literary merit of Moby Dick and I'd use them as a tool to push my bigoted views onto the world.
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>>25255887
That Roscellinus said "actually, Nominalism is retarded! I'm going to burn everything on the subject". Or maybe Ockham said "woah if my preconditions are granted causality can't be grounded in anything! Maybe there's a problem in that. Fuck, I'm going to stop right now and burn my shit." That or Augsburg went the other direction entirely.

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Han Kang. Ever heard of her? Is she worth the hype or just a pretty face?
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>>25258636
She does write in Korean retard, the translator handles the English
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>>25258636
this is perhaps the highest point this board will ever reach
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>>25246933
I don't even give a fuck about her
Did hundreds of articles about her pop up in your feed, anon?
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>>25251879
>>25246983
he is a yellow fever fag
asian women are so ugly
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>>25261412
I don't find her particularly attractive either, but she does have a very heart-warming smile, knowing she writes about brutal massacres and still has such a soft heart is big respect where I come from.

the scenic scenes of lys edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

old: >>25216234
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>>25260641
It can’t die for that very reason. It’s a containment thread and always has been.
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>>25261403
I thought the /tv/ threads were the containment threads
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>>25260641
Winds is not coming out as long as Martin is alive. After his death they'll get someone to ghost write it. This is pure cope. 15 years are more than enough time to finish a book thrice over
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>>25258448
A relationship with 2 women would be hard to manage.
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>>25261442
>After his death they'll get someone to ghost write it
I don't think they'll exactly ghost write it, they'll just take the 1200 completed mansucript pages and get Elio and Linda or the Expanse guys to edit and publish it. Dream might get ghost written though.

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POST AND DISCUSS LIFE AFFIRMING PHILOSOPHERS AND THEIR WORK

NO CHRISTKEKS ALLOWED
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>>25252096
My favorite life affirming philosopher is Jesus Christ of Nazareth

>Jesus answered, and said to him: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
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>>25253991
Nietzsche affirms the key tenet of neoconservatism - that might makes right - thoever
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I like neetch but I also like hegel
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Bump
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>>25260248
>He can't read
Just stick to your Kissinger, dear.


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